Kendas Vs Lionhearts Which Tires Will Last Longest drifting!?

We test Kendas which are pricey but last a long time, vs lionhearts which are super cheap to not only see which last longer, but the cost per lap.
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[@addisonwasiuta6109]

Taylor out here doing God’s work

[@dylancolburn5296]

addison Wasiuta lmfao comment of the day sir

[@brokeeastmeet]

bump Taylor Ray hooking it up 6 years in the past

[@sputnik8407]

What a about the Lion Heart for an old man going on his Cadillac to the store? Great video ! Thanks !

[@sanyone1659]

i think that you have to spray the tires with water while you are drifting if you want them to last longer... also try spraying less water or put a bigger tank maybe.. so you can spray while you drift for however long you want

[@crazymicah123]

Try some Light truck tires just a thought

[@jamiewhite5824]

Here in Ireland we used westlake tyres

[@user-yg1ze8sq5y]

You should honestly do more videos like this. I really like the comparison parts of the video like pros and cons about the 2 sets, it was a different kind of video and i really think you did a great job with how you approached this type of video👍🏽

[@jjs777fzr]

Now this is a tire torture test.

[@twostangs81]

try federal tires, they are pretty cheap and last a decent amount of time, would be a great comparison to kenda's. The 595 rsrr are a great tire for the money so thats where i would start for comparison

[@ExhaustedOfficial]

Tyres are a nightmare for drifters, such a money pit but it’s always worth it👌🏻🤙🏻🔥

[@userTomTom]

Exhausted i See you everywhere lol

[@ExhaustedOfficial]

T. St Its crazy 😂 must both enjoy watching the same videos 😂

[@userTomTom]

Exhausted 😂😂

[@LFSPharaoh]

Now I see why those tire sponsors are where it’s at. I mean I knew all along but when you look at the numbers it almost hurts lol

[@KiingTx]

Dude I see you on every video I watch HOLY SHIT😂

[@Woot_ST]

If you have a tire rack hook up the Firestone firehawks are super cheap in a 235

[@jr42a1]

I have a Ford 7.3L Turbo diesel E450 Cutaway with a box on the frame behind the cab. I had purchased numerous Nexan "LT series" tires for my truck (from Sams club) and had issues with tires bubbling on the sidewall.Sams even got to the point with me that they were asking what I was doing with the truck? One day about 2 years ago I got fed up and bought (4) Lionheart LT series 225/75/R16 tires for my truck rear duallys with aggressive all weather tread off of Ebay and said F-it... cant be any worse than what keeps on failing... Not 1 bubble in my Lionheart tires and my truck is always loaded heavy. I will never buy Nexan again. Just too many reoccuring issues... PLUS Sams always bitched about installing duallys on my truck.I went out and bought an older used coats tire machine for $600 cash and do it myself. Im tired of kissin asses and waiting all afternoon long in a waiting room seeing tire techs playin on their phones and "claiming" they are busy beyond belief when the garage is clearly empty. Its what America has been reduced to.... L-A-Z-Y. Has anyone ever felt like this ?

[@meggabitz]

My SRT392 eats back tires, I am going to give the Lionharts LH-5 a shot, they are $140 a tire. Granted, I dont drift it... like you do... Its for regular street driving and dragging in Mexico ;)

[@Dwooten206]

Drifters appreciate you doing these experiments Taylor. Thanks

[@pushrodgarage8716]

Holy shit. Balls of steel drifting in fourth gear with no cage

[@tomahoks]

If I could I wud send you Coopers, Nexens and GoodYears fo test.

[@TrevorCanToo]

Taylor is the BEST amateur do it yourself drift youtuber there is!

[@charlespurcell9367]

Keep it up bro your videos are the best really helping the community!

[@collinmcclenahan9957]

Have you ever tried Michelin Hydroedges? I saw Drifts n Lifts talking about them, they're 800 treadwear and allegedly last for fucking ever.

[@SkidiotsGarage]

Taylor please go try a Triangle TR968, they make a 225/40/18 or a 235/45/18, you will not be disappointed and I’ll bet money they last longer than the Kendra’s!!!

[@Ajrubiofoo]

Super interested in this also! I had 4 triangles that were almost 2 years old and heat cycled from an event. The 4 lasted me the whole day on a hot lap track with 350hp. Didn’t chunk or delaminate either which usually happens with old used tires

[@00ruva00]

Taylor is just a baller for killing it at the track

[@tosemcriatividade6449]

The sad part is: 5 years later and 300 gets you 4 fullways

[@mikemartin1200]

regardless they are the same price, safety comes into play, kendas are safer so you should go with those. also after 20 years how has no company made a drift compound / drift tire? wtf

[@nealzucker613]

zestino has. really though, its just a large cost to develop a product to a (relatively) small market.

[@mikemartin1200]

your perspective on how many people drift across this country every weekend is very limited. not to mention, the close nit street drifter groups that drift pretty much every night in out of site(mexico) areas.

[@xRamRacing]

What exactly is a drift compound?

[@mikemartin1200]

when a company gets off their ass and uses all their R&D data to create a compound that doesnt get extremely soft after 10 seconds and basically vanishes thereafter

[@Tanner731]

why would they make tires that lasted longer for drifting? think about it, the more tires you go through the more tires you'll buy from them. also all their R&D in drifting is going to come from FD where they want softer more grippy tires than your average joe doin skids on the weekend. zestino was teasing a "practice" compound for awhile that supposedly lasted pretty long but I havent been able to find anything more about those tires.

[@shaolincruz2891]

My hero !!! Wut up 🤙🏽 !!! Sick content once again much love 👊🏽

[@Nwaboosted]

This was a great video. Very helpful and great breakdown awesome stuff Taylor for real. GREAT JOB

[@rdrack8693]

In my country one cheap tire is +25.000.000VEF (62 bucks or more) and the minimum salary is 1.200.000VEF(3 bucks)... I guess I'm not going to drift as long as I live here

[@arn6376]

@Taylor Ray did you ever test the difference between a 235 and 265 tire?

[@GftdHoodie]

i would like to see how federal 595 tires do. they dont seem to be a very sporty tire just have a sporty tread.

[@JAVIER12321]

Nankang NS-20's and Achillies ATR Sport-2 and Sports should be the next set you should test. 4 new nankang ns-20 right now on ebay are going for $292.00 for a 265/35/18. For Achillies ATR Sport & Sport 2's going for 302.88 for a set of 4 as well.

[@curtischornohos6365]

i just had a track day with my LS 240sx, makes 365whp. running a 235/40r18 Zestino Gredge 240 treadwear at 30 psi. i got 16 laps that day on them, and i had 2-3 laps on them from a previous day. i was running on a smaller track, the video is the latest one on my channel if you wanted to have a look for comparison. the tires held lots of grip right up to the end where i spun out. I've got a couple sets of the zestino acrova to try as well, which is supposed to last even longer with similar grip. We get these tires in canada for about $120 plus shipping (probably cheaper in the states) The other tire i'm going to test is the Zenna Argus UHB. i ran them on a previous car, same size and was getting upwards of 25 laps no problem (On a different track layout though) I appreciate what your doing with the technical analysis on tires! I've been gathering my own data to finally figure out which tire reigns supreme!

[@NotTheChad-]

NEED MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS! Such a good idea and I’m glad someone is doing it!

[@Onelovej]

Has anyone tried accelera PHI R I’ve heard good things about them thinking about ordering a pair

[@IDlikeanEvo]

Crazy video Taylor 👌 amazing seriously, I love the way you put Time and effort into it, cause its reflect very Much on the contents that you give us!!

[@fmmrz5]

We use ironman in st louis

[@padlockbeats151]

Awesome content!!!

[@LexxD3]

Try Zestino Acrovas. I did a write-up in Lonestar Drift page - check it out on facespace

[@Tman52]

I ran a set of Sentury tires 225/40r18 on my Z vs a set of Kenda's on different days. The Kenda's faaaaar out performed the Sentury's. I averaged about 20 laps on the Kenda's on a 80 degree day, vs 12 on a 50 degree day and a patchy wet-dry track. Sentury's can be bought at discount for about $55 a tire, Kenda I can get between 70-80. And like you saw, you can safely run kenda's to the literal end of their life without causing additional damage.

[@z33tanner]

I drift and daily drive my Z would Kendas all the way around be a good option? I live in central CA so I don't need winter tires.

[@samkelly2478]

Love the videos

[@StewieUpdate]

really glad you are delving into the real side of drifting most beginners or people that are trying to get into drifting don't know yet thanks love the vids keep doin you

[@dakotashireman6404]

Keeps me motivated for this summer

[@jeepsterdaddy37]

I love how you broke the price down per lap. That's something that I've always been curious about but never been able to calculate it or I'm never seen anybody do it.

[@pympin87]

the lionhearts also means more stops to change tires ... and more chances to break things when they blow out

[@CarModsGarage]

Nice comparison man. I am about to get some tires for my drifter.

[@benjaminfranklyn604]

Well japan started to pvc pipe the rear of fwd car to keep cost cheap for people cant afford drifting.Soon drifting car might end up awd with plastic tires to keep tire cost down just rc cars.

[@stevenhockenhull501]

hey bro danno if u get hiflys there but i found the hifly 805s where cheap as and smoke hard good grip

[@emilkuttel1]

Smoke hard but don't last.

[@stevenhockenhull501]

Emil Kuttel i got a like 10 laps at barbagallo when i was in aussie in a 25det 3rd gear on limiter but they were heaps cheaper then most others

[@yairmunoz3293]

Hey guys im not a tire person so i dont really know how to choose one. I got some wheels and i need tires. They are 17’s and they are 7inches wide got any recommendations? They’re just for my daily. Its a 2012 vw gti

[@aaronmckean915]

Nankang NS20

[@stewarthorsley3405]

I’m in Australia & I’m a tight ass but I use retread tyres cause they cost me $30 each. Good thing when they delam there is no belts to stuff your car up. As long as you run low tyre pressure they old up sweet. They also smoke better than any other tyre I have used. A lot of the guys that compete in burnout comps use them

[@JosMyOpinion]

Stewart Horsley how do the retreads work?

[@nico_driftx]

Kendas are like double the price now 😭

[@roguesoldier64]

yo shout out to the cat at 4:07

[@roguesoldier64]

wait theirs two cats!!!!!!!! YOOOOOOOO

[@Alex_Lindsay717]

try ironman imove gen2 they are pretty grippy and last a good amount of time. also only cost about 50-60 per tire

[@ilikeboost4764]

You should try Federal 595 rsr. Alan liked those in his frs.

[@theresaoakes9387]

those are nice and the 595 evo's have decent traction in the rain. imo

[@prism7164]

Who's cat is that in the background near the couch??? Is it a strey

[@prism7164]

Thanks for that highlight

[@Missileworksllc]

Try the zestino gredge 07r. Not the acrovas (they’ve been hit or miss) but the hard compound 07r have been amazing

[@curtischornohos6365]

i've been trying out the gredge, got 16 laps on my last set, have a couple sets of the acrova to try as well. heard about them chunking off sometimes, so a few guys tried running them backwards and said they lasted longer. ever hear that?

[@Missileworksllc]

Curtis Chornohos for ages I’ve seen other people run directional tires backwards and I’ve done it myself with the federals. But with the better tires like kendas and zestinos I have not. Haven’t had the need when I’m getting 15-20 laps out of a pair. It might be worth a try with the acrovas though.

[@curtischornohos6365]

yeah i'm getting about the same amount of laps with around 350whp on a 235/40r18. i don't get how some of these guys chew through tires so fast!

[@MsSomeonenew]

Laps only mean something on the same track... also extremely dependent how much you are really drifting.

[@michaellaurent2155]

Love it! There is alot ot controversy on zestinos but with the way I drive hands down the best tire out there! Iron man imoves imo is a close second as fast best bang for your buck. It also depends on the track. The track we slide is a cheese grater on most tires

[@MrNicoe36cabrio]

Maybe you shout compare them on a slow track too, like the small Orlando track...It will take some more time, but maybe interesting too?.....Great video Taylor.

[@jayyoung1320]

this was a good video. you should do another test at a track with short runs. im curious how much longer they last when they have time to cool.

[@brandonstewart5883]

those e brake entries were gross

[@rhammerfist]

I like the Accelera Phi Tires on my Sr20 S14.5. They are pretty Cheap too.

[@jacobcharlebois8950]

Also doesn't count for the price of mounting tires

[@ramprider1]

After watching you for a couple years now on KZbin, I finally saw you shred in person at PBIR. Killed it!

[@johnnyhoodz]

Used ACHILLES ATR SPORT on my G37S Coupe; $63-$64 per tire. Only changed a set twice in 6 months for weekend practice.

[@nikvanscoyk4427]

anyone know cheap tires in canada?

[@luthvianna]

Very cool interesting and informative video 👍🏼 thanks Taylor you should make a video talking about all the cost for a weekend drift. How many hours, gas, maintenance etc... I’m looking to buy a drift car just not sure which one would be the most reliable if a z or any other with v8.

[@S-Kidz]

You should try Achilles radials atr sport there about 60 dollars a tire and u can get them at walmart

[@z33tanner]

Just bought a set of 4 for my 350z. I got the Achilles ATR Sport 2 though in 225/45/18 front and 245/45/18 out back

[@bryanmurphy26]

Definitely avoid tires that delaminate. The damage they can cause to the brake lines and fenders could negate any savings. Plus there are plenty of dirt cheap tires that will wear down to nothing without delaminating.

[@MultiCalvin99]

!!! I love that track!!!! palm beach is so much fun!!

[@garretthimmer9692]

Accelera phi tires, really enjoy them

[@lucashannabass7230]

Your cost per lap data point is half of what it should be, your only accounting for roasting one tire not two.

[@Tanner731]

time to get some of the practice zestinos and some winter tires to test vs the kendas

[@andydunwoody9010]

vee rubbers

[@TheZach02010]

Zestino tires are super popular here in the Alberta drift community! I’m not sure which model of tire people are running but I've heard good things. I've had one set of winter tires from them and they've served me well!

[@dalewaller2700]

Don't know if you can get them in the states, but have had good experience and feed back on goodride's and a brand called hifly. There easily available in Australia and not that expensive, tbh alot of our pro drivers here use the good ride semi slicks or Achilles 123s

[@DieselboostedNorway]

Hi, I have tried out this myselv, with other brands, and spesifications.. I have found that tire with higher load index holds longer, as in my case, I do most burnouts in my car, for now, and I work at a tire dealer, so I get free used tires, I started with a good threaded 195/65r15, it hold a burnout for 2 minutts before poping, and that was with wheel speed above 100mph att all times.. tried with 195/70r15 wiitch is a tire for bigger vehicles, like delivery truck etc, they lasted for almost 5 minutts on the same skid pad, the same day and aprox the same speed

[@darkwolf1618]

good video i run kendas myself but i would definitely like to see more comparisons and maybe similar comparisons but from a high speed vs low speed layout

[@rubberducky243]

Why don’t you just get tire discount you can pick up a set of tires for $100

[@joshuabrown1323]

Try the zestino acrova

[@Rusiputki]

Worst tyre I experienced so far TrackMax TX2. Cheap to buy, easy to fit without even using levers, compound is soft and that's the biggest mistake China made, just doing casual 8's and 180's for few minutes ruined the tires. Glad I got them half price compared to what they sell to the public. China rubber should be only hard compound. Low grip + hard wearing = win

[@westsurfer87]

I'd imagine having a solid axle would give you better/more consistent tire wear? I have a Volvo 240 so I'm trying to take that into account

[@rdrack8693]

I think your problem might be a throttle body issue, what you described is the same that happened to my dad three times on his fiat Siena a couple years ago, if you clean it up it might work again (already posted on 110mph entry video)

[@MonkeyGameHD]

Some drifters in my area ( in france ) use Star Perfomer tires. They have been using Kenda too but has a beginner they say to me to try both. I plan to try both kenda and starperfomer at next event in 205/16/50 (45euros per tire)

[@OrganicGreens]

go behind a tire shop at night... free used tires

[@joshuasutton3175]

I would do another test at osw IMO. Only reason i say that is because each run was different with the use of the hand brake. Like when you noticed that you would hold the hand brake to long and flate spot the tire. The test would be alot better if your running the skid pad and see how the tread would wear thru each session. Just my 2 cents.

[@williambalderson5540]

I think size matters to but I run a set of tires called tiger paws and I make 250rwhp and 300ish wheel tourqe and run a 16 205 60 size and one set lasted 12 laps at gainsville

[@stealthygsr]

Please do this comparison with the ATR Sport 2's not just the ATR Sport vs KR20

[@josephfilek8261]

This might sound crazy but put a kenda on the driver rear and the lionhearts on the passenger and see what pops first. And through out the event change it like kenda driver to kenda passenger.

[@tomhalloran3509]

If you add in time/cost for mounting tires and swapping them, the Kendas prove a little bit better value as you have less labor time/cost into running them. Also if you end up with timed run groups and you are able to just cord a set of kendas over the full session, you would only get 75% of the session before you would have to swap tires or sit out with the lionhearts.

[@moshsquaddrift3976]

Taylor you should bed liner that truck. Keep it mint . Looks way better than mine.

[@ModItAllGarage]

tire rack states the tire tread depth from factory on the specs breakdown. If you want to compare that also. Looks like Kendas got 10/32nd's cant find info on the Lionharts

[@SylasG]

Mod It All Garage Kenda KR20 have TONS of tread compared to other tires people use. They’re meaty.

[@5lcalais1]

ever considered hard compound d.o.t. semi slicks? know a few people using them for practice tyres and usually get near 1 - 2 months out of a set and that's drifting 1 day every week 3-4 hrs per 1 day, there a little less grippy but last ages. :)

[@taverill1]

Can you start a series testing all types of tires? This was awesome to watch

[@giannisbournazakis6684]

tried the zestino tires is good and the last long

[@TYLERbuilt]

I'm curious to see how the Tri-ace tires compare

[@jayrock3629]

“Work it girl” yaaaassss!!

[@tadaapenwolf]

300k coming in hot! 1m here we come.

[@seanb5664]

Kyrie Anzalone yeah n fuck all views goes to show how many r giving a shit

[@chaserogers2529]

Try a champoint blacklion 245/45 or 245/40 about $90 a piece

[@migoman98]

I really liked this comparison, maybe with more/better visuals of the data and having an excel spreadsheet that you update each time you test other tires so we could reference it. Obviously the data would be taken with a grain of salt due to variables.

[@dapperdanbuilds]

Something that you're not taking into account is the amount of time spent changing tires at an event, as well as the added damaged caused by the tire coming apart. The Kenda mostly stays together, thus, no damage. Time is money, also.

[@theresaoakes9387]

have you tried federal 595s? relatively cheap and Im pretty sure Ryan Literal runs them too.

[@Missileworksllc]

Theresa Oakes 595 super steels are absolutely terrible

[@_Bonez12]

those are way more expensive than what he's running now and much harder to get

[@zeekdavis11]

Kyle B Federal’s are not hard to get...I haven’t had any problems getting mine

[@Klutchylol]

Probably too grippy for a stock 350z. I had 595RS-R's on the front and SS's on the back of my 300+hp supra and it was a real hassle to break them free, had to really chuck it in hard.

[@the86ofmtakina]

Federals suck as a rear. They get greasy and chunk

[@smokeyhouseproductions]

Dude I have also have hd great success on Kendas I think they are a great tyre for drifting just an idea have you tried running them backwards to see if that makes a difference!? Apparently directional tyres run much colder in reverse not sure if it’s a myth but that’s how I run them and they last ages!

[@emilkuttel1]

An old school Japanese driver told me that about 15 years ago, they draw air into the channels in the tire. Definitely works a treat. And go the federal 595. Get twice as long as a cheap tyre.