Kendrick Lamar Changed The Game When He Did THIS

[@greglilg21]

Tell the folks about how you threw an opening acts CD back at him, during that Section.80 tour 😂😂

[@Top5Troy]

tell them about how he got mad and said "ya b*%ch like it tho!" and u screamed back "the f*ck she dont!" 😂

[@sincerexhampton]

Section.80 was his independent debut (TDE) album & GKMC was his major label debut album with Interscope & AfterMath. I still count S80 as his 1st album & GKMC as his 2nd

[@_ElijahEarl]

Troy I appreciate your analysis of 2010s rap, the blog era and mixtape eras. You are the spark of certain conversations, with or without the recognition. You know it’s “for the art form and never the hand clap”. Keep these conversations going. 🙏🏾 love from NY home of #DaCulture 😂

[@CanOkan]

Word

[@Top5Troy]

salute!🫡thanks for watching

[@AGthaGreat94]

they said i’m trrrrippin.. but little did they know

[@top5rapwebsitetop5rapwebsi49]

u know ball!

[@senku1396]

that im loving it...

[@Sephiyroth]

HES LOVIN IT

[@nondescriptcat5620]

like WAAAAAaaaaaaa hi.

[@Top5Troy]

@ ​ @senku1396 both of yall wrong 💀 the next lyric is "But little did they know, I'm tryna' change the rules" its a quote from The Heart Pt 2

[@bohemianjay98]

I was there for Section 80. Had to go back to OD and the Kendrick Lamar EP. It’s crazy how all of them could be albums. Section 80 I would say is his 1st album.

[@loriewhalin5853]

I agree. I love OD and section 80

[@_ElijahEarl]

Same here

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

Same I was introduced to him through Section 80 then I had to listen back.

[@dandyprophet]

Personally, I think the Kendrick Lamar EP, Overly Dedicated, and Section.80 are all "mixtapes" to some extent. Kendrick seems to have planned to make GKMC an origin story of sorts from very early on, and those previous three projects helped him eventually make the full-on entrance he wanted, with the benefit of being able to pull from his newfound experiences, mutual connections, and artistic momentum to make GKMC the best it could be. However, I do also think that aesthetically, Overly Dedicated is the one project closest to truly being a "mixtape". It's kind of funny that all three records leading up to GKMC - especially Section.80 - don't fit cleanly into any single box. Heck, if you take Kendrick at his word, GKMC is closer to a "short film" than an album! He's also kept us guessing ever since with projects like untitled unmastered and Black Panther, which may or may not also be Kendrick albums depending on how you look at it. Section.80 will always be a personal favorite of mine, though - in hindsight it feels to me like a thesis statement for everything he would go on to talk about for the rest of his career. In a way, it kind of acts as a prologue to the story of Kendrick Lamar.

[@Top5Troy]

i was going to mention Black Panther soundtrack and how involved Kendrick was in that in this video also but decided not to. good mention i remember Kendrick describing Section.80 as "the Album About Us" and GKMC "the Album About Him" or something like that

[@lynchdj]

I’ve been a fan since Section 80, and considered it a mixtape even back then, but you’re right it was sold. Tbf Nipsey Hussle also sold mixtapes so I think this was when the definition was shifting.

[@ontheedgesitting]

Even though I think those other projects are quality, based off him saying “official, official” seems like in his mind that was all practice for the main event.. which was GKMC.

[@serpentsfist]

And now we have gnx which feels a bit more like a mixtape but is recognized as an album

[@AGthaGreat94]

nipsey did an interview where he said that 50 cent gave him some game on why to not call your projects ‘albums’ prior to doing a distribution deal .. basically explaining that it helps your negotiations with a major label when you don’t have a history of record sales bc the label then has to guess/project what they think you’d do(numbers-wise) as opposed to having concrete data to refer to. so, knowing dot and nip were somewhat connected early on through tours & what not, it’s no surprise dot took such a brilliant approach to how he labled(no pun intended) his projects; and it’s also no surprise that both he and nip respectively have two of the best debut rap albums in all of hiphop history.

[@Top5Troy]

This makes a lot of sense!

[@21LLBillz]

What the hell man y u bringing up deez memories T_T. I'm definitely convinced Kendrick was on one with his marketing. Man had at least 2 Full LP albums before his debut. This is a good discovery!

[@Top5Troy]

definitely had a few kendrick albums before the "official debut" also 😂

[@AllTheArtsy]

I discovered him with Kendrick Lamar EP. Some of his best songs are there and lots of fans don't even know it

[@Top5Troy]

P&P probably still my fav Kdot song

[@AllTheArtsy]

@@Top5Troy P&P and Celebration were the first songs i heard actually! :)

[@ReginaldWilliams-jc5rb]

@@Top5Troyit’s definitely at the top but I got kush and Corinthians as his best song

[@Top5Troy]

@@ReginaldWilliams-jc5rb thats a slept on song and also 1 of my favs. it would land in my top 10 Kdot songs

[@layzface4224]

Do you have a link to download?

[@A2Zondeck]

I always heard gkmc was his MAJOR LABEL debut. Kendrick first album to me is gkmc. Everything up to then is are independent mixtapes for me lol It’s like chance the rappers coloring book vs the big day

[@Top5Troy]

that Chance the Rapper mixtape was probably the end of the mixtape era imo

[@ja_right]

This is why people are so messed up by Doechii. This is also why when Cole said, “first one, second one, third one…” people were debating what he was even talking about. He was wrong about all of them, so it did’t matter. 😊 I count Section 80 as his first.

[@Top5Troy]

Oh yea Cole on 7 Minute Drill. Even in my review of that song I mentioned being confused 😂

[@nondescriptcat5620]

7000 iq Kendrick making his discography confusing to make it harder to diss him.

[@greglilg21]

I definitely refer to GKMC as his debut tho. EP and OD were clearly mixtapes for me, I understand how the waters got muddied with Section.80 but that was also a clear mixtape for me personally. It just happened to be very polished

[@sphakamisozondi]

On P&P, Ab Soul < Kendrick Solo was rapping for his life on there

[@ajmk2845]

Section.80 was his first album. But GKMC is his major label debut. Back then Major label debuts were treated as the big leagues. Like AA minor league in baseball compared to AAA

[@pedroboitshwarelo509]

am so happy that somebody addressing this topic. I personally have an interest in doing music and this is one of the things confusing me. @Top5Troy can u do a full video explaining the difference between mixtape, Album, EP, LP and a single

[@TheKingRod305Gms]

Section.80 is his debut album. good kid mAAd city is his major label debut & his 2nd album. Section.80 was independently released. But it’s really not that hard to think about. But salute to Kendrick for constantly giving us quality.

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

I refer to Section 80 as his first Independent release. Good Kid MAAD City as his 1st Studio Release.

[@ezmokonnen]

i had no idea kendrick actually sold OD lmaoo i remember getting it sent to my phone through bluetooth lol thought it was a lil free drop he did

[@Top5Troy]

i remember the day it came out on iTunes going to school and talking with friends trying to figure out a way to download it without going thru iTunes 😂

[@DecaturQue]

I did not remember OD was for sale. I could have swore I downloaded that for free on Dat Piff or something. Kendrick was doing a lot. I definitely remember Section 80 was an album.

[@pondskumm]

6:06 P TOWN!! ❤

[@RenoDeJuan99]

Kendrick call section 80 his mixtape was singing about me and refers to Good Kid mad city as his first album on the For Sale? (Interlude)! But he did a concert a few years ago called the section 80- damn concert and referred to section 80 as an album weird. I even heard it interview where he referred to a section 80 as a mixed tape back like 2012.

[@Top5Troy]

welcome to my world of confusion lol

[@ChaseTDS]

It's still confusing to me on what his debut album is. I personally think it's Section.80 while GKMC is more of his breakout project for alot of the world to see him.

[@IllDawgable]

GKMC was introduced as his major label debut. The first released through a major label but being his sophomore. I think they called it a debut for marketing purposes. Section.80 is his first album but was released on an independent label. Peace from Botswana. I remember listening to K.L.E.P., O.D. & S.80 in May/June 2012 waiting for G.K.M.C. Simpler times.

[@Top5Troy]

GKMC was definitely called his debut for marketing purposes. But there are people out there who swear its a mixtape lol

[@IllDawgable]

There are people who think GKMC is a mixtape? Or did you mean to say section.80? 'cause initially I thought section.80 was a mixtape for a while

[@mohamedfahad2364]

@@IllDawgablehé meant section 80

[@IllDawgable]

​@@mohamedfahad2364makes more sense

[@jclouseau6595]

Yes its his 1st Album for me too. Its definitly produced independantly tho. But i came to the Conclusion that Dre & Jimmy Iovine just won't let him call it that without them eating of it. They did the same with Eminem's Infinite Album..Just another Exampme of Interscope Politics.

[@AKmohanrajj1]

Kendrick was Conflicted at 5:22 😂

[@Top5Troy]

abusing his influence... i remember i did the same!

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

Section 80 felt like his first album to me however it’s an independent album and good kid is his official album

[@hotsaucecity]

It's definitely Section.80. If you were around when it actually came out, everyone was talking about this amazing album he put out.

[@mbamaluike]

I remember when OD came out, they said it was an album. It had that album marketing and treatment too. And then they said it was a mixtape. I was confused too. Same with Section80, I actually referred to it as his debut album but then it was not available in hard copy for years. Then they said it was just a digital album and GKMC was the official debut album. Bro. Still confused

[@Top5Troy]

they’re all over the place😂

[@jacksonngarambe1568]

That's why J Cole in 7 Minutes Drill said: "Your first shit was classic, your last shit was tragic Your second shit put niggas to sleep, but they gassed it Your third shit was massive and that was your prime" The first shit was GKMC so from GKMC Damn is third.

[@lallit8485]

To Pimp a Butterfly is 2nd , it didn't put anyone to sleep though

[@tamaravanie6890]

He literally has made history by dropping the first Diss EP 😂

[@Zero-is-infinite]

Yes we all heard OD, you don’t think that DJ Drama getting jammed up in ‘07 by the feds changed mixtapes as well?

[@top5rapwebsitetop5rapwebsi49]

Drama got jammed in 2007, blog era mixtapes were after that like 2008-2012. It had effect for sure but people still continued to make mixtapes. I think Drama's issue was he was selling them when it had copywritten material on it

[@Zero-is-infinite]

@ correct about the bootlegging, I had to go back see what the RICO was about. NPR (not crediting them with anything major about hiphop, but it works here in my favor) labeled it as “the raid that changed rap”. 😂

[@Top5Troy]

@@Zero-is-infinite could be true depending on how you look at it. i think Nahright shutdown had a bigger effect in terms of artists changing up their mixtape strategy. And then the Lord Finesse lawsuit against Mac Miller too

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

Chill Troy let Kendrick rock with those beats on OD 😂😂😂

[@huare7946]

And he doesn't play nunadeez songs before GKMC on tour!

[@Top5Troy]

cant remember the last time i heard him perform something from S80. its a shame really

[@RileyEscobar366]

I mean I’ve always thought Section 80 was his debut album. Maybe he just considers GKMC his debut because it was the first on a major label. I don’t even know, man.

[@Top5Troy]

i dont even think Dot knows lol

[@Rryiac]

He soooo conflicted indeed 😂

[@quintonrichardson8245]

It’s an ep deluxe

[@OMGDAM]

80 is the first album

[@DannyDee143]

You said it ur self several times, issa "project".

[@Top5Troy]

"project" is nondescript tho 😂

[@satyarthsingh2276]

People saying GKMC as his first feels like a cop out to me so that the standards of his discography is maintained more nicely. We don’t see the same excuses for other artists, if that’s so then don’t inclue any albums from underground rappers when discussing their albums as they don’t have a major label release😂 What baffoonery is this!

[@lesediramagaga575]

Kendrick Lamar EP > Section 80

[@Top5Troy]

S80 probably my fav of all his projects but EP has some heat on it