Meatball is no longer a memeball! | Grendel Guide | Warframe

[@KingMasteron1]

It could also be mentioned later in the video, but it is worth noting that the retaliation viral procs from nourish can be triggered by combat discipline. It is also worth noting that arcane Avenger can also be triggered by combat discipline comma letting you build a super weapon buff build by subsuming nourish onto whatever frame you want that works with combat discipline

[@TheKengineer]

Oh, I hadn't caught that Noursh and Combat Discipline synergy. Interesting combination!

[@yeoldpubman]

@@TheKengineer It's good fun on a perma-meatball build since you're just blasting out plague as you bounce around. I combined it with Aquablades to give it the killing power it needs to trigger the viral nova, which then makes the blades kill even harder, been using it for Conjunction Survival SP with way more success than I expected.

[@KickieB]

@@yeoldpubman can u toss us your mod setup? this sounds very fun

[@Gamer12666]

@@yeoldpubman that sounds like a *slicey* meatball

[@yeoldpubman]

@@KickieB Helminth Regurgitate -> Aquablades, Combat Discipline, Catapult, Arcane Grace, Arcane Guardian Triple Umbra, Adaptation, Augur Secrets, Archon Continuity, Stretch, Rapid Resilience A lot of this is pure comfort stats tbh, meatball is immune to CC but not status effects so I brought Resilience instead of PSF, exilus and arcanes are flexible. Resilience could easily be swapped out for Overextended/Augur Reach, either arcane could be swapped for Augmented, range and damage are always great and delaying full strip isn't a big deal since blades ignores armor. Maybe Augur Secrets -> Blind Rage and a +50 energy or +50% energy orb shard. Gourmand is a chunk of armor and makes Feast basically free since you have meatball's regen. Put up Aquablades, go into meatball, roll around maintaining Nourish and spamming Feast/puke all over the place. Puke toxin is fairly good at dealing with overguard, otherwise you have to get out of meatball and shoot it off.

[@CrownedLadybug]

I know "new player friendly builds" was a topic on stream a bit ago, and I just wanna say, I enjoy this approach of endgame builds but with budget options explained over them! It's inclusive no matter what point you are at in the game (instead of having a very simple build next to the endgame one and having to find your own middle point between the two), and it personally actually helps me understand the builds that much better, knowing what's most important to keep even when downgrading.

[@danser_theplayer01]

I have a flaming meatball build with Nezha ability + catapult augment, which makes me go faster and leave a flaming path behind me (it becomes quite effective at killing mobs speaking relatively to it's goofiness, because of the armor strip and viral stacks).

[@darschpugs4690]

A fellow individual of culture I see. i like to become the flying meatball and stay airborne in steel path circuit and climb walls and freak people out when they see me launching mobs into orbit lol, all while running around as a big blue ball like sonic the hedgehog. Peak fun.

[@catboy6451]

As a Nezha main, I approve

[@AlsoMeowskivich]

I was surprised when I logged in the other day to find my boi changed. I'll miss being able to inhale entire crowds, but the ability to use his moves with reasonable energy cost now is pleasant, plus the changes to meatball is great (though I do miss rolling down hills in the plains at the speed of light with the physics it used to have). It messed me up with how 3 and 4 are swapped, I kept meatballing when I meant to spit. I love the armor stripping now though, it'll make grineer nodes in steel path actually doable now.

[@TheTankyCrowbar]

BTW Combining Nourish with Rally Point on Styanax gives you and your team 50-70 energy a second. Great subsume ability!

[@Gamer12666]

And I thought I broke Styanax, I'm gonna have to try this.

[@Kroda-]

Yeah combine that with mod that passively gives 3 energy per second 💀

[@mrwatermelontheexotic3448]

One thing i love about the grendel rework is hearty nourish,before it was picky as hell to get some resemblance of duration,now? Have a full belly and you can just run rampant,no AoE stutter,no status effects,all fun,no PSF A few tips (results may vary) 2 orange archon shards (dunno about tau) will give you a sweet spot on casting speed,perfect for whatever you're doing You do not need efficiency,his energy generation is massive,if you can get a feast cast,since there's no drain now,you just wait for an orb/your zenurik and cast nourish,now you'll be juiced to do more genocide,you do however need range,balance it between overextended,strecht and reach,the last 2 are great if you dont wanna lose strenght,the 1st and either of them for more coverage and supporting and dont mind the lesser strengnt A single auger mod can refill your shields if you run the key and blind rage,run it on your gun or frame and grofit Grendel/the nourish subsume can be a fun way to run corrosive and other elements (say,gas),so dont shy on wierd combos,as long you can stri armor,the gun becomes more viable,and saves slots for whatever

[@knicklichtjedi]

For the new game mode, I personally enjoyed a more support focussed Grendel! Hearty Nourishment and Roar (over his 3) as the buffs and full armour strip with his 4 is really potent!

[@fatefulwaffle]

Wow, I'm glad I checked this video. Completely forgot about his rework and now I'm gonna have to completely change the build

[@kingoffire105]

As a Grendel main I know that Grendel got a huge buff but never knew how powerful it was! Thanks for the vid!

[@DragonKnightJin]

I'd just leveled Grendel up for the MR before, but after this video (and his buff) I might bring him on missions for shiggles to roll around stripping enemy armor.

[@kingoffire105]

@@DragonKnightJin Yeah, that will be very useful!

[@snivycon804]

thank you for the video, im definitely making a grendel build in the future... now i just gotta constantly do archon hunts like you... i am so afraid of doing them...

[@uncoveredkhan09gaming38]

Oberon with renewal makes the bleedout timers way longer and it's augment gives you a get out of jail free card every 90 seconds, I bring Oberon to every single one to counter this and due to those two things, usually end up being a better support then others like wisp Also the armor buff when used with hallowed ground as well as its rad procs makes survival even easier with the right build renewal works a bit differently when compared to other healing abilities. As long as allies are in the radius when it's cast, they keep renewal no matter how far away they go, as long as they don't do things like jumping off the map, clearing the buff It also only drains a noticeable amount of energy when an ally actually needs to be healed....combined that with nourish and you're buffing yourself and teammates in so many ways, you can even go a step further and use his 1st ability augment to give you and your allies radiation damage which the archon's armor is weak to (but I usually don't do this and put nourish over the first as using 2 augments is kinda hard on most builds) Doing all of this you can give yourself and allies radiation and viral damage on all weapons, increased energy from all sources, constantly proc viral in an aoe when anyone takes damage, significantly longer bleedout timers, a free extra life every 90 seconds, a heal whenever they take damage, and increased armor I recommend building for high strength and duration, and leaving efficiency and range at base as the buffs aren't hard to apply when fighting the archons since everyone is grouped up, and the more strength, the better the buffs. Duration also effects the drain of renewal due to it being a channeled ability I hope this all helps of you decide to try any of this out!

[@snivycon804]

@@uncoveredkhan09gaming38 i appreciate you typing this all out. thank you. ill keep this in mind when i build oberon :p

[@uncoveredkhan09gaming38]

@@snivycon804 good luck! May you get many tauforged shards

[@EricLinstone]

I kind of miss being able to eat 25 baddies in one go, turn into a meatball, jump twice, and wipe them out.

[@amolistic_]

Additional funni for grendel shield gating: with vazarin 1, if the ability shield is broken, the after effect of -90% regen delay and 250% total regeneration speed will literally make grendel shield gate alone without any single ability cast, for 8s, which is the only frame that can shield gate itself with vazarin 1's after effect.

[@meep2015]

His buddy gauss can do the same thing too with Vazarin cause of his battery passive! It works even when empty and while the playstyle is a bit jank (having to hide from enemies so guardian shell can break faster) it still is a pretty effective survivability method outside of enemy toxin procs

[@DragonKnightJin]

...How did it take me watching this video about *GRENDEL* to realize that Banshee's Silence prevents Eximus units from pulling their BS?

[@NoForksGiven]

Grenny can spread 10 viral stacks everywhere, is one of the tankiest frames and can go fast with Meatball. He's not even a pain in the ass to level up since Meatball does good damage at low level and is also fun as hecc. He's perfect

[@MaxHicks]

Omg i just can’t believe how sweet your voice are and how good and interesting content you make 😮 Just sitting there watching all videos from the first one by one. You are a gem ❤

[@Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King]

As a Grendel main, I am sad that the fat boi has lost his one-shot people shotgun ability, but it is nice to have a million extra healing from nourish. I’ll miss the old grendel, but I welcome the new age kf the megachonker

[@LightCrib2]

I was hoping to find out what Grendel's meatball movement speed scales with, if anything

[@mystr0696]

Sprint speed I think??

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

the answer is in your comment lol

[@complimentbot7015]

Sprint speed, you can press the sprint button while in ball

[@ShishouDzukiZaManako]

I was about to test parkour shards

[@jeremyl2728]

I feel like I learn a lot from this thanks! Also I'm glad the meat ball is pretty good now lol

[@keithcarson7638]

Got a build that utilizes Hunter Adrenaline and Gourmand so you can constantly heal your self while dealing damage and not running out of energy, building more in to health, so you can tank in meatball mode while providing artillery fire with Regurgitate. Building for health and strength to help armor strip enemies.

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

His design is massively improved, but I do kinda miss sucking up the whole map with open lines of sight, charging up a faction gas staticor, and unleashing it exactly as there's like 30 enemies within a single meter when I expel them. Quadratic scaling is pretty good. Did I mention Grendel stripped their armor as I did this? Ohh yeah, and that defense objectives seemed to progress/new waves spawned as they were in my gut?

[@zacharyhsieh9358]

Grendel’s literally chilling in survivability. His incredibly low shields is goated for shield gating.

[@grummdoesstuff2983]

You can actually reach 112% damage reduction for those first few seconds in meatball mode. It’s not practical because it tanks your other stats for your other abilities, but it is still there. I also find it really funny that since meatball mode now scales in speed with sprint, and Catapult is multiplicative, not additive, Grendel can now outrun his boyfriend Gauss, the frame based around speed.

[@chippler5822]

Grendel could already use catapult to go faster than gauss

[@noahedenborg4221]

what do you mean 112% dr

[@alexfinley3658]

Also the viral proc and damage effects from that only the viral problems and damage from Grendel's feast will apply to defense objectives

[@Guirko]

That's my first time seeing the catapult augment in action... wow, and here i thought the fastest frame of the Grendel-Gauss duo was supposed to be Gauss lol. Btw if you were disappointed by the emergence dissipate nerf, try it again with nourish :)

[@evianwyner8280]

you thought grendel was the glutton???? bro have you seen how many batteries gauss eats :]

[@lexslate2476]

Good pet name. I hope they put in a pet with a thagomizer soon. Ideally some kind of cybernetic lizard with an electrified chainsaw thagomizer.

[@njbrin347]

I really like the video as it gave me details about the abilities but I would like to know how his playstyle is on missions.

[@astromoe1]

High Effective Health pool gameplay. Feast and nourish, for Viral Procs, then spam your favorite weapon. When things get dicey, you can either "Nourish" to heal up or "pulverize" (meatball) to gain all your health back. You could use him as a Nourish Team wide buffer, a hold-the-line frame for interception/defence/excavation or anything anything in general.

[@njbrin347]

@@astromoe1 thank you. It makes sense how his feast and nourish is most used for me. I forgot about pulverize's health gains, I kept recasting nourish. I will try your way.

[@Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King]

As a grendel main through both reworks, i have a comment to make: Old feast was straight-up better for cc and memeing. You could eat as many enemies as you had energy and could upchuck them in a bigass cone of big toxin damage, but the new feast is a much more cohesive piece of the kit, rather than every other frame having 4 abilities and grendel having 1 and 2 extras (nobody ever used the single-shot vomit, because it competes with guns)

[@Bagel920]

Finally I have a reason to suffer and get this guy, after hearing how bad he was on release I just saved my Vitus

[@yeoldpubman]

He's always been good, the rework mostly made him easier to use and moved power from his 1->3

[@yeoldpubman]

nah

[@marquisepixley684]

​@just4universe219I disagree with you

[@insertedgynamehere___969]

@@marquisepixley684 no he was bad. The energy drain killed his kit, his abilities were jank (his meatball couldn't go up hills/stairs, and having to cycle between buffs was annoying)

[@Riftwalker84]

Grendauss doesn't exist he can't hurt you Grendauss : 10:40

[@alexfinley3658]

It also applies to the mod Hunter adrenaline for extra energy gane

[@homerlol9058]

I kinda liked that nourish had options, but honestly this rework has made grendel kind of a beast

[@hezakighamorgan9974]

Wait, did they just turn the meme frame into a meta endgame pick? That's crazy.

[@turboyabo864]

he was never a meme ball . most youtuber just sucked when playing as him while using the meat ball, like his stronger now of course but dont get it twisted . 4:30 grendel could already do that before the rework. test out ball form yeah its bascially just the old grendel in the form of a ball

[@RaidenX196]

Been considering putting Nourish on my Titania so that I can potentially skimp out on some efficiency, as well as apply viral to my guns. I mainly stay in razorwing, so the added bonus energy would be amazing. Anyone know if this would be potentially better than other subsume options? I can't work out the math in my brain of getting free viral over something like roar or eclipse.

[@cammrlw]

I also subsumed Noutish into my Titania and having Corrosive, Heat, and Viral (with Archon Vitality for even more Heat procs) works wonders for me. Especially the added energy multiplier, I can do without Energize and use another arcane like Pistoleer

[@RaidenX196]

@@cammrlw This is exactly what I was considering. Cutting out the energize is massive. Are you able to stay within razorwing for the entirety of a mission?

[@cammrlw]

@@RaidenX196 if there are dwcent energy orb drops then yea! Which is most of the time. I can maybe see a problem if youre speedrunning a capture mission, but otherwise youre golden 👌

[@yurifernandesgomes8210]

Why not just subsume and experiment?

[@RaidenX196]

@@yurifernandesgomes8210 I finally got the parts building as of the last day or so, so it'll still take about two or three more before I can test it, but as well limitations with builds is coming into play so I had wondered if anyone else had already tried it as of yet.

[@namekiangod7750]

BRO ITS NEW YEAR AND YOU UPLOAD?!?!?!?! Noice

[@darschpugs4690]

I like to replace grendel's four with nezhas ability and leave fire trails behind me in meatball mode to reach peak sonic the hedgehog memes. I also use the catapult mod to slam my self into mobs at max move speed to send them flying off the map in steel path circuit.

[@evilangel7338]

Meatball was never a meme ball 😂 As a grendel main that was my bread and butter when he first came out, abosrb a bunch of guys, go into ball form and wreck hevoc on anything standing in my way. (was highly great in steel path since the damage scales with higher enemies, always one shotting everything lol)

[@ellothere699]

Happy New year!

[@hartantoanggoro]

Hmm his kit is actually a literally Tank, not a tanker class but a Tank vehicle which he can load his cannon shells with 1, adding extra protection plate and extra chemical damage (viral) with 2, turn into a Tank with 3 (a questionable shape but if it works it works) and fire his cannon with 4.

[@FrostyTheDragon]

10:26 You can consume new enemies while still in the meatball mode? Shouldn't we be calling it Katamari mode at that point?

[@StiffAftermath]

10:41 - Lol. Gauss evolved. Ummm, im getting 10 viral procs from the subsumed ability. Maybe broken glitch?

[@SamSarin772]

I always put gourmand because how well it synergize Archon intensify

[@jeffreydavidson5161]

I honestly like using rage or hunter adrenaline on grendel as I'm comfortable enough and tanky enough to take the required damage to get my energy bar full.

[@nobody8717]

one wonders if archon intensify works with exalted weapons and life strike...

[@amolistic_]

Exalted (or drain per second ability) will snapshot your current available str and duration, thus archon intensity will work. Life strike will also work, since it is a melee, so...

[@lespretend]

@@amolistic_ Yea. I love using Baruuk Prime in the new lua survival because I'll just turn off his exalted when in the aura of the dax guy, then recast for what, 100% more str forever? Yes please.

[@noahedenborg4221]

just checked the wiki and exalted weapons with life strike and healing return do not trigger it

[@JunkyardGod]

Aquablades and Firewalker are fun af.

[@maciejradomski4828]

noticed one problem with grendel first ability. if the corps guy with shield (the zariman specific one) it blocks your movement in direction opposite to direction of shield

[@Xzeihoranth]

To think I Helminth'd my Grendel a few months ago. Guess I'll wait til the Prime version.

[@lespretend]

It's ok. His helminth is insane for so many other frames.

[@aroudingo]

That’s a spicy meatball

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

I dunno why people don't like this guy all that much, he seems like the perfect tank for a guy that sucks at dodging like me.

[@JurngleBurngle]

What background music do you use? It's really nice to listen to :)

[@Left.eye_]

Interesting video gratis!! I am a new player I built Grendel Prime I love it. I have a problem, I find myself very often without Energy, so impossible to cast Feast and Nourish. I have basic mods any advice PLS? Thx

[@husseinalkahli8785]

Hey love your vids man , can you do a videos how long it would take to farm the most used arcanes, r5 energize , grace , fury ect tyvm!!!

[@proanuubis2546]

Is there a mod or archon shard that effects charge casting abilities?

[@dankmemes8254]

For mods it is natural talent for shards yellow one can reduce casting speed

[@belgryphon4602]

Would not using the Nourish Augment to erase status effects work in place of prime sure footed?

[@TheKengineer]

It would, but PSF can go into the exilus slot. If you're happy to go without natural talent (or have amber archon shards available), then the first build can accommodate the augment for sure.

[@chamucoliz]

Im using wisp with combat discipline and nourish with archon stretch with 203 strength with resevoir i never run out of energy. Now i have a problem kronen prime slash proc gets diluted. Any 1 knows if i can use (buzz kill, jagged edge or carnis mandible) to increase slash proc or is it pointless and should just keep the cookie cutter melee build?

[@meep2015]

The usual high str wisp build will probs still dilute your slashes even with the boost from a slash mod but since you can force proc slash with sovereign outcast it's not the end of the world!

[@meowser6848]

Yes more Grendel videos! As a Grendel main myself i thought Grendel was perfect before the rework but after the rework he's a monster! I put 11 Formas on him to make a good build for him Kengineer i was wondering if you can take a look at it and see what you think of it when you get the chance also can you give me the color scheme of your Grendel from this video i would love to have it for my Grendel

[@cmcomost5657]

When they reworked him i just dont understand why he runs on energy at all they should of just had him use his health if none in his tum and if he is being fed then it feeds on them.

[@Worst_gameplay_ever]

Remember that time Grendel could eat an infinite amount of people at a time lol

[@itsamekilian5549]

What kind of brace are you using?

[@lespretend]

His amp? It looks to be 777

[@void2258]

why does the 1 have the ability to throw the enemies if the 4 throws the enemies for better results?

[@noahedenborg4221]

yes

[@xoana4197]

4 is for armor strip. 1 is for direct damage

[@hellkaiser1366]

I still believe the cone should increase with range...

[@AmalgamJiena]

Archon intensify and gourmand. Hurt yourself to heal and proc A.I. at any time!

[@ayushdutta35]

whats the fulmin build?

[@phantom2041]

Just want a hydroid rework

[@ThEnforcer]

What's that fulmin build

[@malte2479]

Anyone know that Fulmin build?

[@Mr.Finklebottom]

Everything that was fun about feast seems to be gone. They just got rid of the one fucking thing that made me want Grendel, the hilarious potential of eating a ton of shit and then shotgunning them out, killing basically everything in close range, with a reasonable energy cost for the kind of potential it had. I think I’m just gonna stick with the frames I already have.

[@rugino3614]

The flabby fulmin freelancer

[@ryutripp5076]

I thought if you used his signature weapon he gets knock amenity

[@noahedenborg4221]

during heavy attacks

[@dante7665]

jesus christ, is that a warframe or a league champion, how many extra conditions and effects it has? also yay grendel is super viable, why i don't see any one use it?

[@DragonxFlutter]

“As always: Om Nom, UwU, and Barf well, Tenno!”

[@LastGoatKnight]

Kurby became more scary😂

[@phantomforcesnewbie7848]

citron from garden warfare 2

[@KuroNekoNetwork]

holy heck! someone else actually calls him meatball?

[@mariatanioswehbe3457]

Some warframe content creators are quitting please don't I watched pupsker video about this

[@TheModularian]

WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYY Would they make it so you can't cast any Helminth abilities while in Pulverize???? That's SO TRASH for gaming enjoyment! Pulverize is a weak ability, but really fun! Therefore, it could be strengthened with Helminth builds! You have no idea how disappointed I was after installing Sentient Blast, that I couldn't activate it while in meatball. I was like, FINE, maybe the animation lock is the reason why. So then I installed Wyrd Scythes, because I LOVE to spam that while on Dagath, and just seemed like a better version of Aquablades. That one doesn't stop you from moving to cast it, and I was so mad to find out I couldn't cast that either! WTF DE?

[@matiasalfredo4635]

Goron boi

[@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493]

My Helminth ate him first

[@jamescarter6468]

I think shield gating is destroying WF as a whole. I dunno, it just makes frames like Inaros absolutely worthless as well as a few others. I wish DE would look at the current META and rip it down, give us different things to build for, give other Warframes a chance at the META spotlight

[@potatosalad3655]

Or just buff the garbage frames like inaros lmao Shield gating and damage immunity exists in basically every game that has infinitely scaling enemies otherwise they will be impossible to survive no matter how much health you have

[@heavenlydemon5994]

Rip Grendel, what was once such a fun frame is now nothing but a meme

[@beanieguy1880]

the j:

[@miraqen7801]

No matter how much buffs he gets, he is everything I don't want in a Warframe. Which is being obese... *and vore.* 🤮

[@lespretend]

So use his best friend, Guass, who is super skinny and clearly doesn't eat

[@miraqen7801]

@@lespretend i love gauss. he's like my only motivation of staying and playing. there's just something deep within the recesses of my caveman monkey brain that just keeps on firing ceaseless discharges of dopamine when i finger that number 4 key on my keyboard uhhgnnnnngnnngnnnn😖

[@TheHandsOfTimeMoveOnceMore]

Meatball go IKEA the wonderful everyday and is favored by pewds.

[@earthUSOA7705]

7thhhhhA

[@SamanthaLaurier]

The fact that they capped his gut irritates me, despite not actually enjoying playing Grendel. He canonically can eat anything and everything, so only having space for five is pathetic. I didn't like original Grendel, and I don't like reworked Grendel, but I preferred the original.

[@M_Kohler]

Do you also not like Wukong because he’s not literally immortal? Or Atlas because he can’t solo squat the sky or punch with enough force to crack an asteroid in twain? Or Valkyr / Revenant because they even have primes. It seems like a weird line to draw, and as someone who has played Grendel in the game this version is much more fun and player friendly.

[@kingoffire105]

@@M_Kohler I agree I LOVE Grendel and his new update that buffed him, lets hope DE doesn't nerf him to the ground again!

[@aliasisudonomo]

Playstyle is up to each individual, of course, but the 'limit' isn't really a limit in actual play. You couldn't do the "LOL I ATE THE ENTIRE MAP" nonsense outside of specific meme situations, and with the rework you are continually 'using up' enemies you've eaten.

[@kingoffire105]

@@aliasisudonomo Yes, converting that to energy and power that is useful for your other abilities. Which is quite like how humans work in real life, besides eating EVERYTHING part of it!

[@catboy6451]

Well, he ain't good at shield gating anymore

[@InfernalAkuma]

I'm sure I'm very late but I have one response to this.. Catalyzing Shields

[@Tundra.]

Sonic better watch TF out, Grendel is going NUTS at the end of the video.