HASSLED by a COP on my way to film with my DRONE - Ken Heron - DJI Phantom 4 Pro

Good ol' Johnny Law gave me a hard time as I was traveling to Memphis to film the video on how to 'Precision Fly' a drone.
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[@FleshGolem420]

The whole idea that the officer thinks pointing out the window is enough to have you pull over is just crazy talk.

[@oscarlizarraga396]

Wow what a great page, I just found this because I was looking for a drone tutorial and kept watching the rest of the videos. Thanks Ken you are a wise man

[@nute2706]

How someone in a car moving toward yours can accurately​ asses your speed is beyond me.

[@Bitchesgivehigh5s]

Lasers are a hell of a thing. But this guy has no clue what hes talking about. He Gaged Ken, then the car doing 60mph? Doubt, he saw him passing and thought he had a reason to pull him over. And i doubt he was using a Speed gun.

[@rikardb]

@@Bitchesgivehigh5s they aren't using lasers from inside the vehicles, they have radar that can measure oncoming traffic and passing, so they don't need to be behind you to measure your speed if you catch up on a police car for ex. radartest.com/how-radar-works.asp

[@richard6440]

in the uk , police cars are fitted with speed cameras, so even if the police car is moving towards you , and you are moving, the camera works out your speed. unfortunately, if the officer says " he was doing 82 " when you were doing 62, the court will ' usually ' take his word for it. unless you have another dash cam pointed at your speedo :)

[@EarlGarrett-kl7tl]

U Are Absolutely Correct, THEY can Not!!

[@VyporX]

That last part with the “buh and bye” and the “yeah” made me laugh so hard out loud! Hahaha

[@RonaldBrown59]

It's good thing he didn't know you had a drone in the backseat, or you would have been in real trouble!

[@CGAZ66]

True story..I had this officer in texas actually tell me I was speeding when I was not and said to me ( "That's a blatant disrespect of the law") I almost started laughing. Reminded me of that movie. Wish I had a dash cam for that one !!

[@lawnboy81SMS]

FINALLY someone who was VERY professional during a stop and not rude. I give both you and the officer props for both of you being very polite, courteous, AND professional. Anytime I’m stopped, I ALWAYS turn on my hazards for a few flashes to show the cop I’m acknowledging them and am looking for a SAFE spot to pull off. Then once I’m on the side of the road, I turn them on again, shut my vehicle off and place the keys on the dash for them to see them and place my hands on the wheel where they can see them. If it’s nighttime, I also turn on my dome lights to help show them who’s in the car for everyone’s safety, show them that I will cooperate, and just to help them feel safer in general. Then once instructed I put my window down and when they ask for ID I politely tell them it’s in my back pocket and I just need to reach for my wallet. I’ve only had one rude cop encounter but the rest have always been polite and seem to appreciate that I take the time to cooperate and help everyone feel safer all around. Actions speak louder than words in situations like this.

[@KenHeron]

Totally agree. Cops have a difficult job already. No need to make it worse for them.

[@Thunderbyrd.]

He started out crusty but seemed to get nicer toward the end. I do the hands on the steering wheel too, my cop friends tell me it's a huge plus,

[@mplsmtnbiker3867]

Thunderbyrd also, if it’s night time, consider throwing on the interior lights so everything is nice and visible from the outside, and roll down the window as Ken did. Only thing I would say to do that Ken didn’t, is that when you are told to get your DL and Insurance, TELL the officer where it’s at and that you’d like to get it. Wait to be told to go ahead, and make your movement slowly. We definitely appreciate when people help us to know they aren’t a threat to us. Given the number of deaths just this year, it’s at the top of most officers minds. And yes, everyone will say, “I would never hurt a cop,” but no officer out there has ESP and can know that walking up to a car. In my area, an officer was killed by an elderly female she had dealt with numerous times and was going to give a ride to detox. So yes, everyone is treated as a possible threat. I do concur though that he began a little harsh. I also don’t understand positioning your car for a head on approach OR expecting that an oncoming vehicle will know to pull over as if they are being pulled over. Pull over to create a buffer between the squad with lights oncoming, sure, but pull over completely? No way. Even with, “the arm.”

[@07babbe]

Good job for sticking up for yourself. You were polite but strong in your convictions.

[@sludge4125]

It was irrelevant. Nothing was decided there. Ken didn’t really give any legitimate argument against the speeding ticket. The officer has already heard every excuse in the book, including the “I speeded up to pass the guy because I thought he was drunk” psycho babble.

[@rl2109]

Good advice, Ken! My Dad taught us (my brother, my sister, and me) that all responses are "Yes sir, no sir, or [answer to question here], sir." You show the greatest respect and courtesy to the LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) the entire time that you are in that situation. ...Years ago (an unknown number, as far as you know), I was driving back from a Summer vacation, 18 yrs old, and my best friend in the old car. We came upon a line of cars on I-12W, near Pumpkin Center, LA. As we weaved through the traffic, we came upon a State Trooper doing his best 'Pace Car' impersonation, cruising along at 55mph (the national speed limit back then)... So we eased past him and he soon disappeared in my rear view mirror... That took 10 minutes or more, but there was suddenly blue lights on my rear bumper! He came from -nowhere- in a flash! His FIRST COMMENT to me was, "DO YOU REALIZE you're the ONLY IDIOT on this highway who is NOT DRIVING THE SPEED LIMIT?" I thought to my self, "That's because all those other idiots were stuck behind you." HOWEVER, I did the 'yes sir/no sir' thing until he gave me a ticket for doing 58 in a 55mph zone... It was both an exercise in restraint and frustration, but I lived through it! Sorry for the novelette... :D

[@KenHeron]

Wow! That guy was just waiting for some impatient 18 year old to break formation!

[@jessedelch9306]

That’s right guys always bend over for blue Isis

[@rexnonpotestpaccare5043]

in fact Leo truly stands for "legally employed oppressor" .

[@charlesragucci6167]

Love your video's Ken, Thanks for keeping us updated on this

[@GadgetInspector]

Hey Ken. What is your setup for recording inside the car? I have a dashcam but I think the inside view is just as important. Looks like a GoPro maybe on some kind of short tripod?

[@GM6DroneMapping]

Everytime you and I talked, you were respectful, so I have no reason to think you don't like cops. However, my recommendation is never tell them you will fight it. The less memorable you are, the less they will remember in court. ✊

[@Iexpedite1]

GM6 Drone Mapping, that sounds like sage advice. They may not remember enough about you to put up a vigorous argument.

[@GM6DroneMapping]

Iexpedite1 exactly...

[@ridermak4111]

GM6 Drone Mapping , If EVERYTHING is caught on video, (front, rear, and interior cams...even better if GPS equipped for speed stamp) it doesn’t matter what the cop remembers in court.

[@GM6DroneMapping]

Rider Mak although my comment was a generalization, I would say that you are taking for granite that the judge allows Kens video in as admissible evidence. Judges can do almost anything they want. BUT Ken comes across very genuine and honest, so I bet he does fine.

[@Iexpedite1]

Around here our boys don't have cameras at all. They don't even have GPS on their cars. The dispatcher has to call and ask who is closer to a particular area. They don't have computers. They run cars down and call in tags while behind them. Being forgettable might not work in the city but I feel it would be effective around here.

[@BellofattoBrews]

I have that dash cam due to your recommendation. I love it and use it all the time.

[@KenHeron]

That's awesome Craig! You'll find that it comes in handy for many various reasons.

[@BellofattoBrews]

Ken Heron thanks but I hope not for the reason you had to deal with today. 🤣

[@joaquinncisneros5886]

Is that a RX8?

[@901tsharper]

Anyone know where I can get the manual/directions for one of these? I found one in my out building and want to use it for whatever I can use it for but would love some dirrection on setup for this thing - I just don't see much on here for this cam? Any help out there? the one I found is a Craig?

[@Nolaperu]

The end part was hilarious. It was almost as if she was trying to tell you, please turn that off. 😂

[@DoomerONE]

Yep I agree with this video completely. Another thing many cops don't respond well to humor so if you try a joke and it fails........don't try a followup. If it works, sometimes it can break the ice a bit. Great video sir.

[@oldrrocr]

crying works sometimes too.

[@reaverman]

"Enos! This is your superior officer RosCOOOOOOOOO P. Coltrane!"

[@backwoodsriders1879]

Reaverman Love that movie!!

[@reaverman]

TV show ma dude! ;)

[@backwoodsriders1879]

Reaverman I thought it was a reference to trapped in paradise.

[@reaverman]

Dukes of Hazard mate :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIiQnYFneat5edU

[@JasperMaakt]

Found your channel since the ‘pull out drone’ tutorial and stayed around for the puns. Love it

[@KenHeron]

Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it.

[@jimbubbatube]

Ken, you totally HAVE to have Betty on the Thursday night show! I haven't seen someone this excited to be on KZbin in a long time.

[@jhutch1470]

You double passed while speeding. How was he hassling you? He said some things wrong but he wasn't out of line.

[@bigbengamer]

@The Zewp 22 Accusing him of going 80+ mph when the video clearly shows he's not isn't hassling?

[@John..D]

Tennessee law, at least last time I looked at it, states that when passing vehicles in a passing zone, you must do it in as quick and safe a manner as possible. They make no mention of speed, only that you must do it quickly. So you can't be speeding if you're passing because your trying to get back in your lane of traffic as the law states. Nothing he did was dangerous. This is just an example of a trooper with nothing better to do.

[@mjc0961]

@The Zewp 22 Even if the case was dropped, he still got pulled over and still had to go to court. That's hassle. Less hassle than if it wasn't dropped, but still hassle. Do you know what hassle means? I suggest googling it.

[@jdove1404]

Hello Ken. I may have some bad news for you. I am a retired Maryland police officer/accident reconstructionist. After analyzing the video, the good ole boy Sheriff was not too far off. According to DOT specifications, each of the dashed lines is 10 feet in length with 30 feet between. 40 feet total per segment. At various points in your video, I was able to count the segments and use a stop watch (not the KZbin clock) to time the distance traveled. The Speed Racer portion (0:13 to 0:16): From when you shifted into high gear until the camera edit, you passed 8 segments in 2.68 seconds. 119.40 feet per second or 81.44 mph average speed. The sheriff said 80 mph at 1:37. Because of the short distance involved if I give you the full 3 seconds elapsed, you average speed will drop to 72.76 mph. Ultimately, the shorter the distance, the greater the margin of error. Coming to the Long Arm of the Law: From the first yellow line segment after the white survey marking after the bridge until the freeze frame at the sheriff (0:26 to 0:36), you passed 22 segments in about 9.85 seconds. Giving you the full 10 seconds, your average speed was 60.00 mph over that distance. Leading up to the incident: Using the same principles, I calculated the car and pickup’s speed to be about 54.57 just before you started to pass them. The sheriff said 62 mph. Again, shorter the distance the greater margin of error. The good ole boy probably had his radar set to detect oncoming traffic only at the time. When you passed the car and the pickup, you became the first and fastest target on his radar. Frankly, I did not like his “You in a heap of trouble boy” attitude, but he is “The Man” in his county. You have a decision to make: 1. Roll the dice and take it to court. Remember - The judge could very easily be his first cousin and wife. 2. Pay the traffic school fee, go to the school and make a video about the experience. If it prevents your insurance company from finding out about this, you will be saving a ton of money. Happy motoring!!!

[@helpimlost84]

Wow that's detailed!! Can't believe u sat with a stop watch and all... But kudos to u!

[@kodachisolutions]

That, sir, is a motor cop answer ;)

[@Meekerextreme]

Spot on too, I agree I didn't like the cop telling him he should have seen his arm and that a point means pull over...that is stupid but that is about the only part of the video I agree with this KZbinr. How about passing multiply vehicles at once as far as I know int he traffic code you are to pass one at a time not two or more.

[@RaceMentally]

Boom!!! Guilty!!! 🤣

[@sludge4125]

I felt the officer was respectful. The speed wasn’t the major problem, either.

[@bkbrown5881]

Have the same dash cam. Love it. I will always have one. Great video as usual. Keep on droning’!!

[@EdwinvandenAkker]

5:36 I lived in the USA for a few years, a long time ago. I got pulled over a few times. Back than, a Dutch drivers license was a big piece of folded pink paper. I threw in my thickest western European accent and called the officer "Your Honor". It was kind of endearing, really. But they loved my license. And sent me off with a warning... every single time. ;-)

[@SEAWORM]

You’ll win this in court. Dash cameras are always helpful. They don’t lie. Keep us posted. Keep the videos coming. Thanks for your hard work.

[@thewidower1]

NEWBURYPORT DRONES the dash cam did not prove what speed he was going. The citation was for speeding sooo he will most likely lose this case. If you people decide to invest in a dash cam, make sure it has the ability to display your speed on the readout. Otherwise it’s just a video.

[@SEAWORM]

thewidower1 honestly I believe his video will let this be dismissed.

[@thewidower1]

NEWBURYPORT DRONES what do you base this rational on? He was cited for speeding. The video does neither confirm or deny his claims. The officer allegedly has proof on his dash cam and radar. Either way, the judge will always take the LEOs word before a citizen.

[@SEAWORM]

thewidower1 just my feelings after watching the video.

[@thewidower1]

NEWBURYPORT DRONES lmao... so let me get this straight, you think this gentleman should go to court and fight a speeding ticket based on your feelings? That’s certainly a scientific approach. Let’s just throw all the evidence out the window and go with your hunches. The world would be a much better place. No offense sir. I wish it did work that way.

[@smoothvirus]

Roscoe P. Coltrane! hyuck hyuck hyuck

[@RedHeat]

You are a fun teacher. Love your stuff Ken.

[@Cory_Armitage]

I have been pulled over many times in the past for speeding. Great advice. ALWAYS co-operate and be friendly with the Cops. This guys looked like he was looking for a fight, and his attitude sure changed after he interacted with a kind and respectful citizen!

[@doteaters]

The car in front of you wasn't "swerving", like he just had a pint of tequila. He was demonstrating to you, the car behind him, that he is checking for clear traffic to pass the slowpoke in front of him. And then you, with your sporty sports car decide to pass the guy who is obviously jockeying to pass another car, putting yourself in his left blindspot and risking all three of you. Makes me think your accident might have not entirely been the fault of another driver.

[@thestig9699]

That's just about how I saw it too. Technically, you're not supposed to pass TWO cars, although I've don't it with my RS too. The cop saw him as he was passing, and then switched on his radar, hence Ken's Passport didn't alert him prior to initiating the pass. When I heard that sound, I knew the cop had him. Did the cop "Hassle" him, not at all, and was actually very polite.

[@murraymarshall5865]

The Stig Not supposed to pass two cars, what kind of stupid law is that?

[@mjc0961]

Incorrect. The car in front was swerving and tailgating. Maybe if that moron had maintained a safe following distance like Ken did, he could have seen more of the oncoming lane instead of just the truck's rear end and wouldn't have had to keep swerving to try and see around the truck. That's why Ken could pass as soon as the oncoming lane was clear, whereas the car in front was still sitting there staring at the truck's rear end like a chump. If the car in front had also maintained a safe following distance, he could have been passing the truck before Ken had a chance to pass both of them. Watch the beginning of the video again: that silver car is a dangerous idiot.

[@gmyrick56]

But,Officer, I thought you was making a left turn. You can still make hand signals for turns? Right

[@davidh4555]

First video I saw of your channel. Loved the outtro! New subscriber.

[@KenHeron]

Thank you David!

[@CaptRich-bi3gp]

Curious; whom are you providing instruction for?

[@scruffytech]

If that Guy was swerving all over the road, (was he impatient to get around a slow car?) it's probably a better idea to stay behind him and give him space.

[@bobwoods5017]

Scruffy, on my way to Reno there was two 18 wheers holding up the flow of traffic. I was dead last behind 6 cars as they entered a passing lane on a long uphill grade. I went around the first car on the left, as I sped up the second semi pulled into the passing lane in front of the other cars. I guess he thought he could pass the lead truck. I kept the petal down and served into the right lane, passing all the cars and that slow truck, as we topped the hill, I went back to the left lane passing the lead truck well ahead of the other truck. I watched as not one car followed by lead, but sat in the passing lane behind the truck that wasn't passing. Never shy away from a safe chance to improve your position by doing the unconventional. Those poor bastards taught all their lives to only pass using the left lane are probably still in traffic stuck behind a truck .

[@mitch3064]

@@bobwoods5017 I have not disagreed to a comment before this, but I can say as a truck driver for over 25 years, that passing a truck on the right is a dangerous move and completely the wrong move. It is very difficult to see a vehicle on the right side of a semi sometimes, and if you like to pass on the right, you may find your run off the road due to the truck drivers inability to see you. There is a reason that you will see signs on the back of some semi-trailers that say "passing side, suicide" with arrows pointing left for passing side and pointing left for suicide. I am not trying to put you down or insult you, just hoping you will see how dangerous passing on the right is.

[@bobwoods5017]

@@mitch3064 I can only say I respect your judgement, I drove smaller trucks with a class B license doing lumber delivery for 28 yrs, and haven't had a moving violation since 1987. Not bragging. Just so you might see that I'm not s reckless driver. I've been driving the hwy 36E and 395 to Reno since I was 16.... It is a dangerous road out there. Hope I didn't lead any one to think I was endangering anyone else. I just saw an opportunity that nobody else did. Besides, my brother said "Go for it!" Thanks!

[@mitch3064]

@@bobwoods5017 Thank you for not attacking me for being in disagreement with your idea. You approached nicely and politely. Your reply It is a very nice change to what too many people online(and on the CB radio) can sometimes act. I have seen many accidents over the years and it is amazing how many could be avoided if the drivers, be they the car or the truck, had just taken an extra second. I also have not had a "moving violation" since 1990( and only one in the 10 years before that), and even have the "million safe mile award" from the company I used to work for. BUT i did have a ticket on my record for a missing mud flap. So good job on the clean record, and stay safe.

[@mjc0961]

@@mitch3064 As a semi truck driver for over 25 years, I hope you know better than to block the passing lane when you clearly can't pass anyone.

[@seanc.5310]

I wouldn't worry about Major Dick too much. You've got a recording, a stellar driving record and the recently hit by drunk driver situation on your side (glad you're ok btw). Plus maybe show the judge or magistrate your Phantom...drones are cool, I'd let you off.

[@KenHeron]

Haaaa! Thanks.

[@jessethompson1545]

Where does the dashcam show your speed?

[@Goat310502]

Do you use the hardwire kit???

[@Outdoorsyshoresy]

I’m scratching my head as to how he saw your actions and clocked you?

[@KenHeron]

Magic?

[@stevenas58]

Wait...you wanted to get the driver of that vehicle that was maybe drunk "behind you" but, weren't you struck by a drunk driver from behind?? MMmmmmmmmm......

[@MrHub929]

Steve Nasello , I like Ken and his videos..... But was wondering the same question?

[@KRich408]

Steve Nasello that was my exact thought! Why do you put the threats behind you? It's like being behind a predator then getting in front of it! Why do people do that? If your behind a angry wild animal do you stay behind it or run past it then let it chase you down!

[@MrHub929]

gamegod19 - So..... Ken had to over take , ride beside and safely pass the threat in front of him because...... "Insert excuse here" The safest place to be , is where ever you happen to be when you see a possible drink or impaired driver.... But not limiting your escape route, or narrowing your patch of asphalt while your beside him....

[@JT-nq8vy]

Yeah because weighting for someone to head on in front of you and ending up in a pile up is always the best option. If you are drunk I'm not going to drive behind and wait until you crash into someone in front of me. I'm not going to slow down 15 mph below the speed limit while he impedes traffic. I'm passing and putting some distance between me and him. If he is swerving every car that goes by in the oncoming is a potential head on with him. If you pass him and put him behind you then you don't have to worry about him wrecking in front of you. Especially on an open highway. The less time you spend around a potential hazard the less chances of an accident you have.

[@125AXer]

J_D, I strongly disagree. The best course of action is to call in the hazardous driver via 911. Then stay far enough back so that you can't get caught up in anything that may happen before the cops can stop the offender. I have done so several times. Have been thanked by the police for getting a 2nd time DUI driver off of the road. Your course of action is not safe at all, and leaves the danger on the road to potentially maim or kill someone. If you REALLY don't want to be near a dangerous or potentially impaired driver, you'd stop and wait a few minutes, or make a turn and use another route to your destination.

[@alainbrunet47]

That record was it made with your DashCam N2 Pro. ?

[@te71se]

I may have missed this, but where on the dash cam footage did it show your speed (that wasn't 80) that got you off it?

[@KenHeron]

I shared it with the court, not KZbin because my case was open at the time.

[@aldimore]

In a bit of a hurry? Passing two cars is not legal some places.

[@KenHeron]

Good thing I'm in Tennessee!

[@timk4944]

Ken, it looks like to me that his radar picked up the oncoming Suburban that passed by you in the other direction after you passed the silver Altima and the white GMC pickup. If he was using radar at that distance, there is no way he could have focused it on you. The Suburban was between you and him at that time. You need to find out what method of radar he used. It sounded like your detector said ka band. The only way he could have pinpointed you at that range would be if he was using laser. While you may have exceeded the speed limit I have my doubts it was 80 mph. I feel that this would be a stronger defense for you to pursue. Although most officers will give you a little wiggle room for speeding while passing, it is not legal to exceed the posted limit, period. Just make sure that you don't condemn yourself by saying that you may have sped when you passed the vehicles. Always ask politely to see the locked speed on the gun if you get a ticket and plan on fighting it. They have to show you if you ask. If he didn't lock the alleged speed in the gun, this would have helped your case even more if it went to court and I've even heard stories where once the officer was asked to show the locked speed, he reduced the ticket to a warning because he couldn't produce it. Go get em"!

[@KenHeron]

Wow thanks for the info!!!

[@kensteele3363]

except that is not exactly true. since it is a ka-band radar, it's probably one of the newest radars. the latest models have the ability to not only clock vehicles going in the same direction and going in the opposite direction but also can clock multiple targets at the same time and tell the operation who is driving at what speed. however, if the officer says he clocked somebody else (and not you) to determine your speed, i think you are good to go. check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LOhqeKoLCVitU

[@stevepseudonym445]

As Ken Steele says, the radar isn't "focused". The emitted signal is bounced back by anything reflective, so a radar is always getting multiple signals. If multiple cars are going in the same direction with the radar of to the side (an interstate, for example) it will be hard to identify which car it's targeting if the speeds are similar. That's one reason that the officer's vsual estimate is important or even necessary. In this case the signal from the SUV will be stronger (bigger, and much closer), but the radar is also getting signals from Ken and the cars he's passing. The SUV isn't coming towards the radar and the cars Ken has passed aren't going faster than him. When the radar reports the highest (oncoming) speed detected it's either Ken or something from Star Trek that's made out of transparent aluminum. And since the cop is behind the SUV, and may have been there for quite a while, he knows that guy isn't the one doing 80.

[@bigjohn75]

hay ken I wonder if there a dash cam out there with a gps that will display speed ?

[@offgridsweden]

Great video Ken. Greetings from Andreas on Off Grid Sweden

[@xaviation5144]

They were just jealous of your KZbin channel and DJI Phantom 4.

[@StanCook]

Ken, I forgot to mention. As a retired cop and traffic officer, I doubt that he got the speed of your vehicle and the other vehicle. He should have offered to show you the speed device he used and your speed. With your video and his lack of logical information, I think you have a good case. BTW, they love to go to court because is most cases it is overtime for them. Always plead Not Guilty, no matter what. Never just pay the fine.

[@KenHeron]

Thanks Stan!

[@jyunte]

What poor advice! The officer doesn't need the speed of the other vehicle, only Ken's. If Ken broke the speed limit, he's in violation. The officer doesn't have to show Ken the speed on the radar gun, or even have to offer it. Ken's own video shows he was lasered. It doesn't show what speed he was doing. Ken's excuse for passing makes no sense. If he had concerns about the swerving vehicle, he should have slowed down and created distance to keep it in sight, not speed up and pass it, while going over the speed limit. He will lose this case, unless he's extremely lucky, and he'll likely get points on his license and everything that goes with a speeding ticket. Doing traffic school gives him a freebie. I'm also a recently retired police officer.

[@StanCook]

May I assume that you are not a PO or even a retired PO or a Traffic Officer? I know what I am talking about and did it for years. You never plead guilty. At worst you will get a reduced fine. That officer told Ken what the speed of the other vehicle was and Kens. I won't keep going. Ken knows me and he will be fine.

[@jyunte]

Stan Cook, not sure how much more clearly I can write it, but yes, I am a retired police officer (EOW 2013). Not sure how you want me to prove it to your satisfaction... But you've also offered no proof that you are a retired LEO. I have my HR218 card in my pocket, if that helps. I stand by what I said, you gave poor advice. I have no idea what your prosecution rate for traffic offenses was, but I very rarely lost in traffic court. Of course, I'm in California, and our training may be very different from yours. A few comments up, there's the opinion of a former prosecutor who became a defense attorney (Keith-someone). Ken might find reading his opinion worthwhile if he doesn't trust mine.

[@StanCook]

Then you should know. Enough. OUT

[@JohnLemieux]

Does your dashcam or any other device onboard log your speed?

[@nickatnite68]

Great video, and you were hilariously calm with the officer. Hope you prevailed in court!

[@KenHeron]

Thanks! I did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYquqIx8bZhgjbM

[@758Redwhulf]

Ken, I'm the police officer that pulled you over. You know that you were ignoring my hand gestures. This is just ridiculous. Will you just take the class so that I don't get into trouble? Lol. Obviously, I'm really not the cop who pulled you over haha. I think you'll win

[@chriskaufman4394]

It was legal to pass at the time you did, ie - no double yellow, or even on your side of the center. Accelerate to pass safely and then return to normal driving speed. I don’t see any violation at all. And, I don’t believe lights on and sticking your arm out of the widow as the correct way to initiate a traffic stop. Granted, if you approach an emergency vehicle with lights flashing, you should pull over safely, if possible without creating a greater safety hazard. Indeed, I believe the traffic courts will throw this out when contested. Good luck with it.

[@758Redwhulf]

Chris Kaufman just wanted to make sure that you do know that I'm really not the police officer that pulled him over LOL.

[@rangerbill9536]

gamegod19 dude are you high? You must not be old enough to drive or you are dumb as hell ! You can pass as many cars as you want, as long as you do not go over the speed limit.

[@758Redwhulf]

Piedmont Bill lol....

[@mikes6301]

Agree. I would definitely go to court on this one.

[@joeys5429]

Ken next time carry a box of donuts with ya he was ready to trap you with runing late excuse to well done bud

[@MrScoobieman]

Recently subbed, love your vids, very enjoyable

[@maccman1900]

Ordering my dashcam now,,hope all goes well for you Ken, that copper's probably subscribed to your channel now ;-)

[@DroningaboutNW]

*static* calling 9er 1 9er we have an 729 taking a 640 on the 514. Ima git em over.... He didnt listen to my arm over. (Thats a media member committing public urination btw lol)

[@prestonkd]

Sorry Ken but you are going to lose. The fact of the silver car swerving doesn’t give you the right to speed. You can avoid him “for your personal safety” just as effectively by slowing down and letting him pull ahead of you. The only way you would have a chance is if you had the gps to show you weren’t speeding. Former prosecutor here. Just sayin’. Take the class.

[@lmccluer]

Keith Preston well except the officer said he stopped in Ken’s lane and pointed for him to pull over. First, he never stopped in Kens lane, and it his arm wasn’t highly visible and Ken could argue that even at posted speed, he didn’t see it, (I didn’t) or he didn’t know he was pointing at him, or didn’t know what he wanted him to do. In any event, Kens already caught him in nit telling the truth right from the start, something an iffy we should ever do as it will ruin your court presence from then on.

[@prestonkd]

Louis, that would only be applicable if the officer wrote him for fleeing or failing to stop. My understanding is the ticket was for speeding.

[@lmccluer]

Keith Preston that is my understanding too. The officer plainly says I was stopped in your lane and pointing for you to pull over. He was not stopped in Kens lane. He said that twice. Getting technical I know, and Ken is likely guilty of speeding. However, a good, bit even great defense attorney would have this officers lunch in his back pocket for misstating he was in his clients lane, stopped, trying to get him to pull over. I can’t even tell you how many classes I was in, both in police depts, and testifying classes where you are told not to fudge a statement even a little, unless you immediately correct it. Otherwise, you will be considered an unreliable witness, and you might as well resign at that point. In this case, Ken, if he so desires, can ask the judge, his can you believe him saying I was going x speed, when he lied from the start by telling me he was in my lane, when he wasn’t.

[@prestonkd]

In my experience, the officer always wins the “benefit of the doubt” test. Ken has an absolute out here where he can go to class and get it dismissed versus rolling the dice and possibly being out money plus the points, etc. I was a prosecutor and then a criminal defense attorney. The way I explained situations like this to clients considering a plea offer was “you can decide your own fate and know exactly what you are getting or you swap that for what Jay has in the box on the aisle and get whatever you get.” I apologize if you aren’t old enough to get the Let’s Make a Deal reference. Ken was either speeding or he wasn’t. The inconsistencies you mention would go a lot further with a jury than they will with a judge, which is who will decide a speeding ticket.

[@lmccluer]

Keith Preston your correct. It might not be worth the effort. However, as an officer that never lied to write a ticket, or arrest someone, and treat others as they would treat you, in my opinion, this is the low end of the stories about why officers can’t be trusted. Maybe he just thought he stopped in Kens lane. But then again, if he lied about something as simple as this to write a simple speeding ticket, then what else has he lied about? I thank God I was raised by a Dad that spent many years as a reserve officer, and a Christian, who taught all three of his sons, the virtue of being true to your word, treat people on the street the way they deserved to be. All three of us spent time in law enforcement, myself and my youngest brother, careers. Now all you hear about us officers that lie about what happened, even though most are stories about officers are exaggerated. We know it’s not all, but those that do, put all in the same light. Unfairly or not. Sure it would be easier to roll the dice, go to traffic court, and go on with life. I just have a feeling by the way the officer stuck by his statement so easily, that this is likely not the first or last time fudging on a ticket. I wonder what his supervisor would say if the truth was known?

[@sofabike]

I have a simple dash CAM. Does U'r CAM Ken records SPEED? with a time records

[@KenHeron]

It will, but I didn't have the optional GPS module.

[@sofabike]

Ken if you make me refer to a Dash cam what has speed records on a video. My is very simple cuts 2 min section-files with an actual time records. I'd LOVE to have constant speed recording on a video. THANKS For Your Great Job !!!! My personal-private Life = Yesterday I pic-Uppped MavicPro-Platinum from FedEx. Buisy weekend...

[@shanbadg697]

Wrong about the ‘older cops hate tattoos’, I’m 51, recently retired police officer, I never assume anything about a person with tattoos. I fought to get dashcams in our cruisers. Every officer was hella against them. But, I was proactive and receiving a letter from an angry driver was almost all that was needed to be disciplined. And, I received LOTS of ‘discipline’. Then, I found a grant for two cameras, I got one and our first K-9 officer. It changed everything. And now I recommend every person install a dash cam system, you’re gonna see how many times you pick your nose, fart, eat, text(while driving) and the worse thing, SINGING!!!(like you won some Emmy award)! But, you will be surprised how much you miss from other travelers or pedestrians doing stupid shit, and, how poor my own driving habits were. So, get one installed!!!

[@joeys5429]

i just love it when cops try and intimidate you

[@slappyjoe6782]

I hate when people pass me when I'm already going the speed limit.

[@mjc0961]

I prefer when people pass me when I'm already going the speed limit. Much better than the idiots who think tailgating is going to get me to start speeding (it never does). Just pass if you want to go faster. People who maintain a safe driving distance and pass when possible are the kind of drivers I want on the road. Not these morons like that swerving tailgating idiot in the silver car.

[@JeremyDean-qk8qd]

You handled that exactly as would have. I always put my hands on the steering wheel, role my windows down (because they are tinted) and if it's dark I turn on my dome light. And maybe the most important things about the whole stop. Just don't argue with them, even though you knew you were in the right. It just doesn't do any good and only escalates things. Nicely done

[@jayblanton745]

Ken you handled that very well- not only did that cop admit on video to swerving and not maintaining his own lane, it sounded like he was trying to be aggressive to you at the beginning but you remained calm and it actually seemed like you brought HIS aggression down! Me & my wife were actually just talking about buying a dash cam to film as we travel to places to fly (I also have my part 107, since August of 17) and it’d be good to get a dash cam, if anything for instances like this! (we live in South Georgia but try to travel further out once every few weeks) so maybe if we happen to go up your way sometime maybe maybe maybe pretty please & stinky cheese meet us for lunch and talk drones lol. You are pretty much a celebrity to us, so we’d be more excited to meet KEN HERON than if we got the chance to meet somebody like Will Smith!

[@KenHeron]

Haaaa!!! That would be fun.

[@johnsmythe4956]

If i see one car "swerving" i am gonna give that car space not overtake him so he can sverwe right into your side!

[@mhsvz6735]

4 hours in court vs 1 hour in a traffic class. Hmm...

[@PalmettoMoon]

mhs vz Traffic class is 3hrs. Minimum. Been there done that in the same state Ken lives in.

[@PhantomPanic]

Kens last name is close to "A". They call people up alphabetically so he would not wait too long.

[@Cobb]

Traffic class is for when you know you can't talk your way out of it. Court is for when you look up the statues and compile a valid argument to get it dismissed.

[@neil78b]

I see no evidence as to why he would get this dismissed in court. The car was not swerving enough to warrant passing especially when he could have simply increased his following distance. Now he risks the chance of having this ticket on his record...

[@mjc0961]

@@neil78b He got it dismissed, so bad call on your part. The silver car was clearly tailgating and swerving to try and intimidate that truck, and creating a dangerous situation for everyone in the vicinity.

[@davidcisco4036]

5:31 How about equipment that only PLAYS prerecorded dash camera videos ?

[@Geologist_Mike]

What model radar detector was that? It seemed to work pretty well. May have to order me one.

[@KenHeron]

It's an Escort Passport. I've had it since 2011 and it's never let me down. It cost $550 back then, but it's paid for itself many times over.

[@Geologist_Mike]

Ken Heron thanks!

[@gmoneyp2129]

I like your videos, but your cam didn't show any swerving in front of you. Also It looked like there was room to pull over when he flagged you down. That Ka Radar doesn't lie dude. I don't have a dog in this fight but it did appear you drove for a while before pulling over. 'They really don't like that move. Maybe the swerve happened in the video before what you show. Keep flying though.

[@ronaldfranck6960]

Well, Ken DID have to get his camera repositioned and start his commentary before deciding to pull over. He was already thinking "Man, this is gonna make a great video." As for the gray car "swerving" he can move around in his lane all he wants to. Did it ever occur to Ken that the other driver might just be looking for oncoming traffic prior to passing the truck? Rather, he just provided Ken the excuse Ken needed to try and wiggle out of a deserved speeding ticket. If you can't pass without breaking the speed limit then you wait until you have enough open road otherwise you become the only real hazard present. Besides, passing two vehicles at one time on a two lane highway is just not good defensive driving, especially when you make an admission that the roadway is narrow. "There just wasn't a good place to pull over." I didn't see anywhere in Ken's "evidence" video where the other driver crossed the double yellow on his left or the white on the right. As for not getting prior speeding tickets, well, sometimes you get away with a lot before you finally get caught. Then Ken poo poos the officer for saying "You know exactly who I was talkin' about". Ken's remark? "That tactic isn't gonna work with me." But didn't Ken, himself make assumptions, like he was "getting a ticket because he has tatoos"? Guess what, Ken, some cops have tatoos, too! Do you want to really defend yourself against a wrongful speeding ticket? Put your Garmin within view of your dashcam and record your actual speed. Now THAT is evidence!

[@ausanders79]

Wow, there are some seriously inept people commenting on this page. First, it’s called radar. That’s how the cop can assess Ken’s speed. And yes, even from a mile away as long as he has a clear shot. Second, the radar gun determines speed of oncoming traffic, not traffic going the same direction as the officer. And third, the car in front of Ken was not “all over the road.” Now maybe there’s more footage showing otherwise, but Ken should take the driving class and be done with it. That cop didn’t have any gestapo tactics or bias or whatever else you snowflakes want to imagine. Ken was speeding and got caught. End of story. I speed all the time and have paid my tickets every time I get them.

[@hubster4477]

Hahahaha! Wrong! Innocent on the trial! So much for radar and telling the truth!!

[@trennahs4322]

I love your profile pic

[@jasonmurphee414]

Love your production

[@cporthouse]

Glad to see you kept your cool when the officer first approached acting like you were trying to evade. Treat the police with respect and they will usually respond in kind. Do you happen to have the GPS mount with your dash cam? More proof of how fast you were traveling. Love your videos.

[@sparrovski]

I gots me another sucker. Yippee. Got my quota fur the day.

[@Demertech]

You look like you respect cops but they are doing their jobs

[@hubster4477]

Like lying about the speed or not knowing how to use a radar gun? Or both? Innocent at the trial!!!

[@pork_chop13]

So how do we tell how fast you were going

[@unknownprofile2830]

0:15 what was that noise?

[@highflyermw0lkx311]

Cops with too much power......sooooo much better in the UK. Good luck with the case Ken. I don't see anything wrong with how you was driving.

[@KenHeron]

Thanks bud.

[@highflyermw0lkx311]

WIFIGHOST CRUISER I can see your one of these keyboard warriors, would love for you to say it to my face. I believe we've found the person who gives Ken the thumbs down in every video.

[@squozzy]

I guess at the end of the day the ticket is for speeding , i dont think the cop was hassling you. Either sit through the lecture and pay nothing or pay the fine. he was just doing his job

[@swinde]

Where was the traffic stop? What highway was this? Also, I would like to know how he clocked you on radar from what looks like a half mile or more from where you passed the two other vehicles? How could he get a reading on both your car and the other two?

[@DroneWolfMedia]

Well done sir! Handled like a pro. 👍

[@xboxcrazee]

Oh to live in a country where you live in fear of the cops shooting you...

[@gastong.loperena7378]

No doubt a dashcam is great, Ken! That´s why I never ever let my GARMIN Nuvicam power off. Surely, this video will help some. Thanks, Ken. And please, keep us all updated on this matter. Cheers from Argentina

[@hubster4477]

So how did it turn out?

[@brandonshawdrone]

Are you located in west Tn?

[@KenHeron]

Huntingdon, TN.

[@stephenorr20]

Ken, does your cash cam not record your speed? I know mine doesn't show it on the recording (because I don't want it too) but when I review the footage on the PC software it will show the speed - so might be worth looking into and could give you hard evidence that you weren't speeding.

[@km4fsi827]

this is why i love my dash cam! it has speed and gps data that sure can come in handy !

[@Bitchslap2051]

Great I love the way you handled the whole situation

[@KenHeron]

Thanks Matthew. Check out my court video. Link in description.

[@Bobster986]

Don’t take the class, you take’em to court Ken!

[@bruceaplin]

Ken, I have that dashcam, on your recommendations. I ordered the optional $20 gps that records speed. Good Luck Buddy!

[@StanCook]

Good job Ken from this former and retired Motor police officer. I saw him pointing which is what I would not have done. I would have done a UTurn and then pulled you over. I think the dash cam is a great idea and yes I have one. Keep us up to date on this one. BTW, the eye do work on birds.

[@amaroudis]

Ken, in Tennessee, you can do the ONLINE traffic school. It still takes around 3-4 hours, but you can do parts of it when you have time, instead of having to physically go somewhere and sit through a class. And yes, you have to actually have the web traffic school at least in your view, because it will randomly pop up something to make sure you are watching :)

[@estouch]

Because of you I purchased a smart mirror with dual camera and it actually records my cars location and speed that can be downloaded for every trip for events like this you can show your innocence.

[@publiedos]

cool opportunity to show the video to the people in the court... thxs for that ALL technology... Take care of your back toooooo and keep updated : ))

[@EdenValleyAdventuresUK]

Ken you go and get them in court, good luck.

[@mikesaito9394]

Did anyone notice the squirrel peaking? I enjoy your videos. Subscribed!

[@KenHeron]

Thanks so much Mike!

[@kamikazekory3263]

What happend to your inspire 2

[@mcrcomics2]

I'm really not sure why I've never seen your videos before but, they are very entertaining will be subscribing!

[@KenHeron]

Much appreciated, Michael!

[@MrCrowleyandhisdrone]

Outlaw ,driver, diner, and man of action.

[@RandomlySet]

Bringing my dashcam over when we visit. Partly for some b roll, but also to cover us

[@RJ67.]

June 13th...That tomorrow! Good luck brother!!!

[@q1o1mancow]

wheres the drone flight,, how does it handle in wins around 10 to 15 mph, did you name it

[@stevekaboobiroo1479]

Not wishing to diminish what the Policeman was alleging, this is a real funny video Ken and the voiceover sounds like Roscoe from the original series of the Dukes of Hazard. You’re a comedy genius. Keep us posted on the outcome and I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Just a thought, It may be worth investing in the GPS module for your dash cam.

[@bvaldes8791]

Excellent advice, that’s exactly what I tell my kids. 👍👍

[@riskfactor3171]

Same thing happened to me a couple of years ago. Driving behind some twerp who was either texting/playing with his phone, or diddling himself...he was swerving and his speed was varying wildly by 20mph...up and down. I punched it to get around him as I had visions of him crossing the white line, hitting oncoming traffic, and sending both vehicles careening in to me. As soon as I came back into the lane, was lit up with X-band radar. Interestingly, I HAD a RX8, but never had a police mishap (love the sound of a rotary), but once I got my Mazdaspeed3, the LEO fun started. Must be the hood scoop. Funny...you are a Mazda guy with an Escort radar detector, and so am I. 😀