Confronted by a CLUELESS Security Guard who threatened to TAKE our drone!

Armed with information, we thwarted an attack by this clueless security guard at a public city park in Nashville.
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[@ChrisHumphrey1957]

Although she was incorrect, she showed you more respect than you showed her.

[@scottykardos]

You were a little short with her and she handled it well. As you know not all security people are informed of the real deal. Right there with ya it's super frustrating.

[@highrider9168]

It's not his job to do her research for her to do her job. She needs to take her job seriously. He has every right to be short or long. It's not illegal and rude is subjective.

[@scottykardos]

Oh yea I agree with you 100%. Rude was no where in my comment he handled it way better than I would have. It's just the incompetence lately in people just doing thier job is mind boggling ....and it was obvious she was incompetent .

[@scottykardos]

And be educated or let go in my opinion!

[@NekoWinters]

Lawl it's her literal job, maybe she needs to not make up bullshit on the spot to feel powerful because she can't cut it in a real security job

[@Docfly62]

Seems to me from exchange she was sent by her superiors to confront him. She totally retreated when she Ken pushed back. In long run she didn't care. She did what her supervisor asked her and left. I'm sure she was like "this is above my pay grade"

[@jasonbrindamour903]

There had BETTER be a part 2...LOL, you can't leave us hanging like that!

[@jarrodforet3557]

They always leave the viewers hanging to think did they ever get it done or wat let's go get it.haha no drone some one got it

[@bullzye101]

yeah i hope there a part 2 come on ... big thumbs up tho

[@Mk4Thumper]

A lot of places have a "no drone" policy. Doesn't make it legal or enforceable, but they will still ask you to leave every time. So when the lowest paid rep from the company comes out to deliver the message, it doesn't mean she is clueless or needs to educate herself. She was doing what she was paid to do, deliver a message. Then ya'll shot the messenger. I hope you all go back and get the Solo 3DR down, looks pretty cool.

[@MrCPPG]

Did you ever think of having the drone carry a grappling device lik you had but attached to a long string. The drone attaches the hook to the dron and lets go of the string where someone on the ground grabs the string and yanks the other drone off the roof?

[@Dennyh025]

This is a really good idea. I hope he sees your comment and tries to do that

[@jeffellis6544]

It’s a great idea. If you don’t mind destroying the drone, you’re trying to recover as it falls to the ground…

[@MrCPPG]

@@jeffellis6544 Not if they catch it.

[@DroneBum]

Better to have a busted drone than no drone at all 🤷‍♂️😁

[@joseywilds3133]

This isn’t Ukraine, highly illegal to do that!

[@dougcooper4917]

Excellent Rescue Video. Thank You Ken, Barkley, and Keith.

[@fearlessleader1436]

Enjoyed that!!! Thanks Ken and Co. !!!

[@OpenCarryUSMC]

She was about as non confrontational as she could get and was trying to help. The regret stated at the restaurant was spot on. Should have looked for the guard to appologize

[@ghettogardens1]

Even those, who think that they know the rules, don't know that the rules are unconstitutional! Flyin free baby!

[@jwhbos]

That was a heart racing moment. Glad you didn't lose the drone.

[@FlyZoneFpv]

Loved it ken. Bro that was a close call. I almost had a heart attack 😮

[@mattwaine296]

I see why you felt a bit bad with the security guard meeting, she was being polite and friendly enough..

[@mikeyc8139]

"We'll wait for the people with the metal badges...". Thanks, Ken. Now I'm cleaning coffee off my keyboard! 🤣

[@KenHeron]

🤣👍

[@rpguy4]

The security guard was being nice and polite. You came off sounding like a smart..ss

[@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL]

Well because he is right lmfao. If it’s open airspace, you can fly there as long as you’re not violating any regulations like going out of line of sight or getting too close to people and vehicles

[@ginoGameplay]

Even knowing you were right, you can listen and respect the other people too, i fly my drone alot but if someone doesnt want me to fly i dont

[@GlennsHardWired]

Ken was actually wrong. Metro Parks is not able to permit the use of drones in parks outside of designated flying areas for any purpose, including photography or filming. Metro Ordinances require that no person shall voluntarily bring, land or cause to descent or alight within or upon any park, any airplane, flying machine, balloon, parachute, or other apparatus for aviation (which includes drones). Drone flight is not allowed in Nashville Metro Parks except in three designated areas: Warner Park, Peeler Park, and Cane Ridge. A permit is necessary to fly drones in these designated areas. Ref Code of Ordinances Sec 13.24.400"

[@blkft]

Yep, we have to be good Ambassadors to the hobby. Confrontational behavior like that sets precedent for others.

[@grumpyvlogger]

Another Kentastic video. Your flying skills and some dang good luck saved the P4 😮. I love the outtakes. Thanks for sharing.

[@AfterJuneFilm]

If you go to the Nashville City Park site, it states that you can not launch or land drones in the majority of the parks in Nashville. It's a city ordinance folks.....

[@KenHeron]

Wishful thinking.

[@AfterJuneFilm]

@@KenHeron Wishful thinking on who's part ? Have you read the Parks ordinance ? If you have a license to fly, you should be checking. Or, just be the guy that eventually gets in trouble which makes the rest of us look bad.....

[@austinavery6292]

Well see the thing is ordinances are not laws and therefore not enforceable, any open airspace is controlled by the FAA and that is the sole party who can decide airspace’s.

[@IJUSTWANNAFLYDJIDRONES71]

I don’t blame people for not being informed….some folks don’t even know about these flying birds……they don’t know what they don’t know……so I give them some free information and it works out 100% of the time. Great video guys❤

[@kishascape]

Typical “muh drone” fad consoomer losers like you and your bootlick fetish.

[@IJUSTWANNAFLYDJIDRONES71]

@@kishascape mad huh? Lol

[@IJUSTWANNAFLYDJIDRONES71]

@@kishascape I actually like trains I’ll sub to your channel.

[@scoutfpv]

LOL great job my friend!!

[@CCasyno]

Always a tense situation when approached. You did well sir!

[@RandyCAstleMPM]

Hey Ken great video man! I think you handled that situation in the beginning very well. I'm sure as much as you fly you get approached often and I have seen you be so polite to people that are just nasty to your face. Just politely informed them and keep doing as you are! 👍👍 Btw Barkley seems like a really good guy to have around in a critical situation, lol very calm and informing you the whole time. Great PRM "pilot Resource Management"

[@thehouseholder5468]

We all love a self appointed hexpert 😂😂

[@matviborg]

Hahaha imagine a good sunny day in the park " The Flying Drone Phone Snatcher " :D

[@davidveatch5145]

That 3DR is a heavy drone. Thats the first drone I ever had.

[@andrewjohnson9971]

Great Video as always !

[@MrProPics]

“Oh boy, here we go” at the beginning bruh I wish I had that level of confidence!!

[@Anderso667]

Entertaining for sure 😲 enjoyed so much.

[@MountaineerFPV]

Get em Ken. Lol. Smooooooooth

[@droneview462]

Educate them Ken lol.

[@clocksurfer]

In addition to FAR, Illinois has had a specific statute since 2018 - no jurisdiction below State level can make any rules/regulations about unmanned air traffic (because they can't anyway). Just the same, YEARS later, lots of local park districts (etc.) still "prohibit" unmanned aircraft from flying above their facilities. 🙄

[@templeton3504]

I'm wettin' my jockeys here lol. "oh, well we don't need ta listen to you"

[@shadowofchaos8932]

Kissed the Gargoyle and lived to brag about it.

[@TheEviling]

The fact that she didnt come back a second time must mean she got told otherwise the second time :)

[@lylehaylett3153]

Sorry, but "Paula Blart" was more correct than you think. While the city can't regulate flying over something like a park (the FAA owns that) they can, and do regulate and can enforce where you takeoff and land. Nashville Metro Code: 13.24.400 - Aviation. "No person shall voluntarily bring, land or cause to descend or alight within or upon any park, any airplane, flying machine, balloon, parachute, or other apparatus for aviation. "Voluntarily," in this connection shall mean anything other than a forced landing. Any landing other than one caused by mechanical or structural failure of the aircraft or any of its parts shall be deemed to have been made voluntarily, and this shall include landings caused by error or oversight, negligence or failure to comply with FAA regulations or rulings. This section is to be construed in pari materia with Section 13.24.240 of this code. This section shall not apply to parachuting activities in conjunction with the Tennessee Women's Suffrage Centennial Celebration in Centennial Park."

[@calandroaudio]

He is correct

[@Mr._Sky_Fly]

Great video Ken! 👍

[@TentoesMe]

So you put in your log book, "Replaced props due to gargoyle encounter"?

[@SkyPixles]

Well done mate!

[@shsechas]

Glad it's still working!!!

[@derelictfpv]

Damn. I kinda felt bad for her the way you shut her down so fast. 🤣 She did seem like a nice lady. This is the problem with society these days...well informed old white men! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RonaldBrown59]

That 3DR Solo was probably heavier than your Phantom 4, nice try though, you almost got it to the edge of the roof. Glad you were able to recover and not loose you P4 up there. And you even avoided another run in with the security guard. Great video, thanks for sharing.

[@TheJoeyboots]

Thanks!

[@KenHeron]

No problem!

[@kd4kdf]

Ken, stop letting them bully you. You know the law, educate them.

[@Nixontheman]

Bloopers😂

[@mgflyer8066]

I can't believe that drone is 3LB I wonder how good it flew. Great Vid Ken..

[@TheAnimeist]

Word is that the security guard is still waiting on an apology.

[@traveltrailerlife]

Ken you are one lucky man.....I was yelling at the Video .....NO NO NO PULL UP PULL UP.....I almost had a heart attack. I also have a Phantom 4 Pro.

[@steveday2022]

I get your frustration Ken; I would be too but she was so nice and trying to what she thought was right.

[@lemon-xi5kz]

I love that at 3:02 there's a squirrel i think hopping in the background. Anyways nice vid Ken

[@KenHeron]

Thanks bud!

[@IggyBiggy]

Like I said before. Legend.

[@mikerooneym6266]

I like seeing these drone rescue missions. You need different gizmos to retrieve these drones.

[@GlennsHardWired]

I work for the city of Nashville and have seen many tickets given to drone flyers in our parks ...including the one you were in . "Metro Parks is not able to permit the use of drones in parks outside of designated flying areas for any purpose, including photography or filming. Metro Ordinances require that no person shall voluntarily bring, land or cause to descent or alight within or upon any park, any airplane, flying machine, balloon, parachute, or other apparatus for aviation (which includes drones). Drone flight is not allowed in Nashville Metro Parks except in three designated areas: Warner Park, Peeler Park, and Cane Ridge. A permit is necessary to fly drones in these designated areas. Ref Code of Ordinances Sec 13.24.400

[@KenHeron]

The reason why they're not able to permit is because they are not the FAA. Thank you very much for watching. If you need more information: [e-mail]

[@georgekelly1948]

Great attempt. Lots of fun.

[@bigbellyflyer]

Ahh , please thank the security officer, she was pretty cool. Oh and please make another video trying to recover that drone so I get some closure.

[@NekoWinters]

Lawl it's her literal job, maybe she needs to not make up bullshit on the spot to feel powerful because she can't cut it in a real security job

[@rockcityfpv9117]

GREAT EFFORT!!

[@KimFusedFPV]

I can't believe you regained that phantom after the crash. It's all those fpv skills coming through. 😉😁🤙

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

Yea i saw the plastic fly and i thought he lost two or three props but thats pretty good for the little damage it really had and the software plus the motor thrust up is what made that happen but id say there was at least a small amount of luck and then relief lol

[@capgunslim1894]

I'm sure there will be a part 2. Ken felt bad for being short with that security guard. Everyone knows Ken is a good dude, so I'm sure he's going to have a talk with her. Afterall, she doesn't know anything about drones, and I'm sure was told by someone above her, who is also not informed. She was just doing her job. Ken knows it.

[@niijipilot]

The security guard was right.

[@jeffs7915]

He's a "good dude" I think your standards are low.

[@ValleyFPV]

You are Soooo lucky that you didn't leave your P4P up there as well. I once designed a similar grapple..but added a velcro type break away device..just in case the object was too heavy to lift.

[@leviconnelly79]

Awesome video Ken! so entertaining 😃

[@nvembrace]

I like how you guys place all your sh*t on top of the security car. 🤣😂

[@flywrightdrones]

Wow, that was a close call 😂

[@My_Alchemical_Romance]

Nice Ken!

[@buzzindrones]

Wicked attempt Ken loved your vid. Greetings from UK 😊

[@onthemoverealestatephotogr9655]

Damn Ken miraculous save on the P4.

[@1971jwing]

That was awesome. Do some more acrobatics please!

[@TroySwezey]

So, is that a cop car at 5:40 that y'all are resting your stuff on? Too funny.

[@adilsaleem8846]

It will great to see if the 3DR solo drone fell from the building

[@MrIanWebb]

I love your Crown Vic. I used to own one and I miss her everyday!

[@hughesevents]

In fairness Ken, I think most of us would have reacted the same way. It’s such a pain when you get your license and still have people tell you that you are not allowed play with your drone. Great flying as usual.. and superb recovery!

[@game2572]

I wouldn't because she came nice and respectful and Ken was being a asshole

[@hughesevents]

@@game2572 She approached already voicing her objections. Had she come up and politely asked what you were doing? You would politely answer. I have had the same, And it’s very bloody annoying !

[@calandroaudio]

By default, drone flight is allowed in public parks and state parks. However, each park district has the authority to create orders that prohibit or regulate drone flight in their respective parks. This can take the form of absolute restriction, designated hours for drone flight, or a requirement for drone pilots to secure a permit prior to flying their drones.

[@RobertMack-iz7yi]

Ken - U the MAN!

[@Curt100]

Good save Ken!!

[@phillipcoshatt6845]

Man that gargoyle got the best of you!! Now this makes me want to test out how much my evo2 will lift. Without the gargoyle...lol 3.3 lbs but with that action cam you might have about 4lbs. Great video as always Ken.

[@60fish1]

Hey Bud , I’m new to the drone scene . Can you tell me the cheapest and best , gimble , gps , obstacle avoidance unit to get ?

[@kaddeewrong5176]

brilliant video as always, do you stilll have the inspire 2? that can lift about 2kg (4.7 pounds)

[@lynsmith1096]

Almost got it and good video Ken

[@JDDupuy]

I love it!

[@zoranm6432]

You can’t beat the P4Pro. I agree Ken, it’s still my favourite as well.

[@BrantAerials]

More horsepower! Send it to a TUNER!

[@bradjtrains]

Ken: What part of the FAA are you from? SG: I'm not part of the FAA Ken: We dont have to listen to you LMAO!

[@sikokry]

Guys , I'm with you . I'd like to be able to fly my drone alot more places than I'm "allowed" to . And it looks like you guys are still trying to stay within the law . But I think you guys are kidding yourselves if you think you're being at all responsible by colliding that drone into the building and then flying the damaged drone over cars and people . I know that gargoyle is made of concrete or something similar but depending on the condition of that concrete you could still do damage or knock off a loose piece. I'm in construction. And I cringe when I see people do shit like this .

[@MyClutteredGarage]

THAT was an amazing save! Or an amazing stroke of luck. 😄

[@AJeepADroneAndAnOldMan]

That was a close one brother, you almost had to give away another P4

[@TheDro]

Ive used my phantom 3 4K to rescue a couple and I feel the adrenaline from here!

[@ericsparkman3645]

I’ve flown there a few times before and I’ve never been told I can’t fly there before

[@speedyturtlefpv3290]

I love these videos

[@tjcuneo]

Nice save. Yes, you would have been better off educating the security guard.

[@skidrose6067]

An incident occurred on September 3, 2023 and the PA State police now have my Air 2S. I was filming a hyper lapse video of the sunset when I received a critical battery error (my own stupidity) and the drone made an emergency landing about 400 meters from home. I could see that it had landed on a neighbors property and waited until the next morning to go there and ask permission to search. When I did they told me that they had found it and called the police who came and took the drone. I was happy to hear that it was found and figured that all I needed to do was call, explain what happened, and go retrieve it from them. I made that call on September 4 and was told that the officer involved would have to call me back. I waited a few days without hearing a word then he finally contacted me. He informed me that I wouldn't be getting the drone back soon if at all because there had been other complaints, about drone flyers in my neighborhood. I explained that I could easily prove that there was no malicious intent on my part by showing him the flight logs. I also told him that everything I filmed would be on the memory card in the drone and, if he removed the battery, he would find a sticker with my name, address and phone number on it. He didn't want to hear that though and was very arrogant and downright rude when he told me that he was gathering everyone in the area who had complained and they were taking me to court. When I inquired about a timeline he said that he couldn't even start the 'investigation' until he gets off of 3rd shift. Its been a month and he still has not started the investigation. Since then I've done some research and found that civil forfeiture laws exist that allow them to keep property indefinitely even if there are never any charges or arrests made.

[@JOEBlalock23]

Almost lost a P4 on the Parthenon 🏛️

[@mycroft16]

The law in UT about flying over property has an extremely vague and badly defined clause in it that businesses try to use all the time to say "you can't fly over us." One in particular is extremely aggressive about it as well, and it's a very popular one to get footage of. It's such a vague provision that it's literally unenforceable but they all scream about it and call the cops who don't have a clue what to do with it really.

[@droningwithjamie]

Awesome video Ken you almost got that drone lol

[@KenHeron]

So close!

[@Gman-ex3dm]

BIG Bertha in action!

[@mitchm5049]

as former security with all due respect please take it easy on them, remember they are PAID SECURITY, they’re not the police, they’re just doing what they’re told and often don’t know the full extent of the law.

[@vanbilly8387]

Pulled a friend's drone out of the top of a tree in a similar fashion. His drone fell to the ground once free. He ran to catch it and tripped over a tree root, and ended up in the ER for a broken collar bone. But... we got his drone back!

[@andrewosullivan8992]

Gotta come back with an inspire or something. I would live to see what on that drone still works!🤣

[@ramon6183]

I like how they used cop/security car to put all gear

[@maddercat]

I have a drop mechanism for my mini 2. It can lift half a pound, I tested it, and if it gets stuck I can trigger the drop mechanism, that might have been better for you. They also make them for larger dji drones. They're pretty cool, and super cheap, they're just a servo with a receiver and a slide arm.

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

Really wow i never seen that before. where you get it from and whats it called? ive seen homemade stuff with servos on rc places so im assuming your using a seperate tx & rx? Do you have the folding landing gear on yours or no? My drone is super low to the ground and it cant really even land in grass without it chopping up the grass lol.. But thats cool, i wonder if they have that for the dji mini 3 pro.. That thing can stay up in some serious wind that would give my bigger drones a hard time, its incredible. I wonder how much weight it could pull, probably not much but the motors and esc seem strong. Ive heard great things about the mini 2 and i want to pick one up to have with the mini 3 or maybe ill go for a bigger dji drone like the air2/2s. But the Avata is really tempting to me plus then i could use the goggles and controller for a FPV drone..that i dont have yet lol.. FPV is also cool on a rc plane i like flying it from like the cockpit area where i have the camera mounted and it almost feels like a crappy graphics simulator with the analog fpv lol but it works and its pretty damn cheap.

[@gregorydahl]

@@mxracingunlimitedltd7784 Remote drone cargo dropper . $30 i think it was . The drop a grappling hook or wire net on a fishing line leading down to a guy on the ground to do the actual muscle power needed idea . Point the camera down .

[@gregorydahl]

Amazom $ 29.99" top race remote cargo dropper for drone ." Or object dropper .

[@rockman49er]

They have a bunch of different kinds on thingyverse to 3d print I've made a few of them and they work great

[@who2999]

A few years back I was taking video of a historic sight for a local park department and my Mavic 2 got stuck in a tree. I devised a very similar grappling hook solution with a stick and a roll of poop bags I found on premesis then sent my Air 2 up to retrieve the Mavic 2 pro. I hooked it perfectly, pulled the drone slightly upward and then... my air 2's engines errored out and did an emergency shut off sending the air 2 toppling to the ground and leaving the M2P stuck in the tree. The next day my work hired a tree trimmer to go retrieve the M2P, apparently they didn't quite understand the assignment because we basically paid them $400 to gently retrieve the drone with their ladders and they literally showed up on site and threw a rock at it knocking the drone from the tree.

[@maximumdrone5334]

I really love your camaderie and it shows that age is not important when you're young at heart :)

[@johannnorris6350]

She took your drone. She can’t do that that’s a crime she’s gonna get charged for this she’s not very bright.😂😂😂

[@dashaunduffy5991]

Great work. You should have used the inspire 2 to do that job, don't you think? to guarantee that you'll get that drone off the roof. I know how you felt when your inspire 2 was given to you. same here. keep up the good work.