DJI Phantom 4 - Using ND FILTERS

[@Botpoint21]

Nice Ken. I've got the ND 4, 8 and 16. Still think I need an ND32 for those super bright into the sun shots. Beautiful shots, that was a close call there it looked like!

[@SeraphimHD]

I have an ND 4, 8, 16, and 32. If you're at all trying to take your drone footage seriously then you have to have them. Just downloaded the trial for ColorFinale for Final Cut Pro X. Amazing color correction!

[@ammarkhalaf7505]

Can't imagine KZbin without you Ken .. Keep the goodies coming ;)

[@sofabike]

The BEST ever vid I seen. U did inspaer me to buy a drone 2 days ago. Now I am in a process of learning. Just passed registration and activation. 0 Flights yet

[@jeffmsc]

Very cool take off routine and decent of you to reply to so many (same!) questions.

[@tallllus]

Oh wow, excellent video! I never knew fiters could make such a difference! Great reveal on the first two shots by the way!

[@arturolopezbarranco2056]

Hi Kent another excellent video and good recommendation filters. Thank you

[@eltrespatines1]

I never thought a rock quarry could look so beautiful ken.

[@KenHeron]

+Edward Roldan I really appreciate the comment Edward. Thank you.

[@sonictigertv1721]

Big difference! Looks so much better with the filter. It takes away that white film or layer of dust that seems to appear on a lot of phantom 4 footage. More color pop, contrast, and realistic look. Thanks for sharing!

[@KenHeron]

You're very welcome.

[@jasonstevenson85]

Lol, I held my breath as you passed over that equipment. Another great video. I love seeing all the scenery around TN.

[@KenHeron]

Hey Jason! --Yeah, when I watched it back, I just about messed my drawers!

[@PixiesChannel12345]

Nice filming with the filters, I just got a Phantom 4 and have three filters that came with it, I'm gonna start testing them out.

[@ancellrembang4338]

3:28 minutes nearly hit roof truck, is'nt? but very nice share, all his time I think just enough to edit on FCP Thank very useful

[@KenHeron]

Thanks!!

[@stevekaboobiroo1479]

Good demonstration of the filters and video of the clay pit.

[@KenHeron]

Thank you Steve!!

[@gd198070]

I am new to drones and photography and found it very informative. The video / audio were excellent

[@kcg795]

I've been using an ND-8 filter on my Phantom 2's GoPro for reducing the Jello effect. My new Mavic 2 Pro doesn't nearly have that issue, but I got a set of Polar Pro Gradient filters anyway.

[@jackpast]

Excellent demo, Ken. I'm definitely going to look into those filters! Thanks...great job!

[@KenHeron]

Thank you sir!

[@StarAquatics]

Great video as always Ken. Just ordered a ND-8 for my P3P after your recommendation and demonstration.

[@KenHeron]

AWESOME! I think you will notice a big difference in your video quality.

[@StarAquatics]

+Ken Heron cheers fella!

[@edwinnegron7761]

funny thing Ken, I just purchase a set of filters for my spark. living down in sunny Florida it should help out tremendously.

[@johnwilson6340]

well done dude!!! appreciate what you do for people as it relates to fly these things!!

[@Robnord1]

Nicely demonstrated Ken ! I like the way some blurring of motion, or cinematic effect shows clearly in your fly away backward shot...especially clear when the video is paused. I think that effect is just as important as saturation benefit.

[@KenHeron]

Good point sir!

[@sarahbeale7650]

Loving your Channel Ken! Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge with us. I got my first drone only 3 weeks ago (naturally the DJI P4) and have taken to it like a fish to water! It is so my thing but have so much to learn! I thoroughly enjoy your videos and humor ;)

[@KenHeron]

You bet Sarah! Congrats on the P4. If you have any questions, just ask. Have fun!

[@sarahbeale7650]

Cheers Ken! Will do that! If you are ever in my neck of the woods (New Zealand) it would be great to meet up with you for a flight or two!

[@KenHeron]

Heh. I'm terrified to leave the familiarity of my beloved US-of-A, but one day I'll get one of those elusive passport thingys!

[@sarahbeale7650]

There is a big wide world just waiting for you to film it Ken! Hehe

[@cleverdarkelve]

Thanks for the demonstration Ken! I ordered a filter set a few weeks back, but haven't been able to try it out yet. ps. Wanted to tell ya. I came to your channel about 2 weeks ago for the drone stuff, but I stayed for the laughter! What a fun guy you seem to be! Toodles!

[@KenHeron]

That's awesome! Thank you. Your doggie is very cute.

[@andrewclark3499]

Filters definitely make a difference I am using Freewell filters and very much satisfied with the result.

[@AlexanderSchubert]

Nice demo what ND filters can do for you. Easily and well explained 👍 smooth flight. While flying sideways and turning at 3:28 it looks like you accidentally got close to a digger. Greetings from Switzerland

[@KenHeron]

Hello Alexander in Switzerland! Yeah... That digger almost took me out. WHEW! Close call.

[@NYROCATV-TV]

Thanks Ken, was wondering about filters and now I know. Very nice Demo. Close call @ 3:28 Whew!!

[@KenHeron]

You're quite welcome. Yeah that WAS close!

[@hendersonjp]

amazing, I hope they replant the trees. ace video again,some close flying ,excellent colours.

[@RNLIB730]

How's it all going Ken??? You inspired me to get a drone. I haven't looked back since. Stay safe!

[@dylntylor]

3:25 how'd you not crash 😱😱😱

[@vfam825]

That was 10 cm from BOINK!

[@Sezeriltekin]

He was lucky.

[@shiwadaay07]

Dylan Taylor Photography He probably looked around estimating that environment before flying, so that he didn't crash his drone. You can't just go ahead flying a drone without an estimate for safety first.

[@Paultimate7]

Bullshit. He got lucky.

[@KenHeron]

Truth is... Both. I spend almost an hour looking over the environment and topography. Then... I was flying too low over the equipment and was very lucky not to have run into it. (Not that a bulldozer can be damaged by a drone.) Thanks for watching my videos guys!

[@CHATHK]

your phantom 4 gimbal has an issue try to recalibrinate

[@freakydrew]

keeps these amazing and helpful videos coming!

[@KenHeron]

Will do!

[@p3e450]

Keep the great videos coming I will order a ND fliter soon!

[@haskellimages]

I love the music. What is your source? Great ND demo. Thanks.

[@KenHeron]

Thanks Jim. I use some production music we have available at the radio station.

[@ninotorres68]

Where do you get your music? Sounds amazing!

[@AviatorZone]

Ken you have a great attitude! Could you share what VR glasses you use or direct me to a video on them if you have one. Thanks!

[@tyte90]

Im sold. Gonna pick me up a couple filters. Thanks for sharing!

[@greghummel6862]

Bunch of people hating on the comparisons, but I buy it. When you slow the shutter speed (ie using ND filter) you allow more light to hit the sensor. Im not "a photographer"...but I am the way we all are now a days. I film extensively for my business as an amateur and one day I changed my digital camera shutter speed to 30 fps instead of 60 because I wanted to be more efficient with the space I had left on a SD card. When I got home I was shocked to find the colors and saturation was far superior, and that wasn't even my intention. But after the fact it totally made sense. Don't ever believe either side of an internet debate. Just let it motivate you to go out and experiment for yourself. Then you can separate the haters from the players.

[@Aviatrix14]

Beautiful demonstration! I thought you were going to hit that tractor at 3:29!

[@davidtaylor152]

Really like the review, I have been using Freewell filters & they make a good difference to my pictures & video.

[@WesleyRobinson]

Always enjoy your video Ken👊👊

[@KenHeron]

And I enjoy your comments as well!

[@4fo4u4r4]

glad to see more TN flyer's. I'm in cookeville TN

[@KenHeron]

Thanks! You're about 30 minutes away from Crossvile. You ever see the Minister's Tree house? Here's a link for a video I did about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epWbdoCsqrymnrM

[@4fo4u4r4]

nice video. would love to go in that tree house.

[@rogerrandolph7839]

At 3:29 looks like you were VERY close to the top of that piece of equipment... If the cams on the Phantom had a method of changing the aperture the the ND filters could be done away with (except in specific timed exposure photography). A polarizer would be the only one I would use in that case. Definitely ordering some ND's for my new drone.

[@KenHeron]

Indeed I WAS! I didn't realize just HOW close I came until I was editing it.

[@TroySwezey]

Just subscribed. Looking forward to catching up on stuff you have put out that I have missed and future videos and lessons as well. Thank you Sir.

[@KenHeron]

Glad to hear it Troy! Thank you very much and have FUN!

[@mikeyc8139]

Another great video. I agree with Alexander. My heart skipped a beat at 3:28. :) When flying my P3P, I often tap on my screen in bright areas to readjust exposure for bright spots. In your video, I would have tapped on the bright clay to have it expose for that area. Seems to work well for me but do you think the exposure in this case was too bright for that to even work and you would HAVE to use an ND filter to get the exposure in range?

[@KenHeron]

Yeah, I just about wrecked on that machine. (Gulp.) It was MIGHTY bright that day. If I'd fiddled with the ISO a bit, I bet I could've gotten better non-filter results, but I wanted to demonstrate the difference between ND Filters and no filters, not auto-exposure VS filters. Y'know? --Thanks for the comment!

[@judgeygx1159]

Nice work Good demonstration Question: Why done the drones come with ND filters as standard ?

[@JasimIqbal]

You just earned my subscriber . i m sold ordering right now . nice vid thanks for sharing

[@bbsteve73]

Love the music. What is it

[@rubikclockweights]

What a difference the ND filter makes!! Plus, my nuts went so tight, I needed a spanner to fix them! at 3:29 when you buzzed the cab of that machine....phew! Ken, have you seen the Litchi App?

[@plasrobin]

Close indeed, great job ken

[@Luv2ripFPV]

Great demo on the filters! Gonna have to get a set for the next trip with the P4.

[@KenHeron]

Good deal Eric. Thanks!

[@bluegrassdroneguy3495]

Cool footage Ken 👍

[@1946FreddieMercury]

Thanks for yet another awesome video. I ordered an ND-8 filter a while back, can wait to try it out. I'm actually pretty surprised with the results I got with my newly aquired P3 standard without one though. But I'm far from as good a pilot as you, soooo smooth movements.

[@KenHeron]

Great! Good luck! And thanks for the compliment.

[@natserog]

good video! thanks.... I have the ND8 polar pro....im thinking of getting the ND16. What are your opinions of the difference between the 8 and the 16. I think on bright sunny days the ND16 would be the best...right?

[@Zeus_zuluu]

wow this looks really really good !

[@perryquaranta]

Hey Ken, you're my inspiration!

[@KenHeron]

Well, that's Perry nice of you!

[@gastong.loperena7378]

Hahaha!!! Another great pun of yours! A perry nice pun!!! Hahaha!!!

[@foraslan5801]

This earth is a better place because Ken Heron and his video-mates walk upon it. Through his videos, Ken gives us beauty, grace, hilarious humor, and a positivity which are, otherwise, malignantly lacking in the world today. Down below, there is a comment by some..........gentleman.........(I won't use his name but his own words can identify him for those interested in doing so) who is critical of Ken....using phrases like: "I just don't believe your comparisons" and "please stop spreading false information". I don't know the gentleman below...he may be a fine man, I have no idea. But I wonder if he is able to bring to our world, even a tenth of the goodness that Ken Heron does.

[@thimoncav]

Thanks for the well explained video!!! But I still have a question, and I`ll be glad if can answer it... In the cenario that you installed you nd16 (or any other else actually) and you're taking your footage videos.... in the middle of your footage you want to take some photos.... does the ND will prevent to take a nice photo? or it's just a matter to set the best shutter speed? I'm just concerned that I may need to use like 60 on shutter speed and get blur images, if the mavic is not 100% stationary.... did you have the chance to test this scenario??? Thanks mate!!!! appreciate your help!!!!

[@kevinb3152]

Hi Ken, Great Videos (as usual), regarding the ND Filters, Polar Pro makes a straight ND, and one that is ND/PL (Polaroid). Can you tell me which one you were using (it looks like the PL version). Thanks very much. Kevin Westminster, Colorado

[@donclark4063]

I enjoy your videos. Nice mix of education and humor. Where do you get your music for the videos?

[@KenHeron]

Thanks a lot Don! I work at a radio station, so I use a production music library we have available here. Upper management doesn't want me to reveal which one because our competing stations may want to use it. --Sorry!

[@TopviewNz]

Nice demo. Pretty close to the machinery at 3.28, did you have the goggles off at this point?

[@KenHeron]

No, I was wearing them but couldn't see that far over! --Close one.

[@haronfilmstudio3714]

Hello Ken! Cool, well explained! Good music is the copyright protected?

[@KenHeron]

Thank you Tom! Yes, I use a production library we have here at my radio station.

[@trosencrantz]

May I ask what in camera settings you chose for these flights? So normal in camera settings? Goes to show why with ND filters, shooting in D-Log or similar can really be a waste, as you have to go in and edit so much after. This is a great example to me that a good set up in camera, can provide great image quality like this, with out having to color grade from a D-Log set up, just with ND filters. Do you use D-Log at all in some of your flights?

[@geolopez914]

Yea I've bin looking for an all around filter I can use all the time. But ken.....PLEASE do a review on the Headplay goggles on the phantom 4.......PLEEEEEEEEEAAAASE!!!!!

[@KenHeron]

Hey Giovanni! I'm all goggled-up for now. The Fat Sharks are fine for me, and I've gotta keep things in-budget. Thank you for the comment though! --And your support!

[@JB19504]

Ken were you shooting in manual mode instead of automatic using the ND? Also, how about a quick tutorial on your drone selfie technique. Looks amazing.

[@KenHeron]

I set the ISO on the same setting for both, as to demonstrate the difference. What number I can't remember. Good idea on the flyaway video! I might do that.

[@JB19504]

I have read that the shutter speed should be double the frame rate, so that's why I shot in manual mode. I also heard 30 fps is usually best for a more cinematic look so I adjusted my shutter spped to 60. Also adjusted the aperture so it looked best on the screen. I was using an ND 8 on a really sunny day. I probably should have used an ND16.I did not touch the ISO, as I did not want noise. I think it defaults to 200. Of course I was not doing any comparison.

[@natserog]

Also Im not a fan of D-log. Even in post it seems to be bland. what setting do you use?

[@GTARC_au]

Cheers. Where did you get your music from.

[@darbyhousedrone5189]

Thanks for this vid. Convinced me to get the Polar Pros. Also like the fat shark demo. How you liking those?

[@KenHeron]

Awesome! I try to use the Fat Sharks whenever I can. LOVE 'em!

[@mapeare]

Show Man, very nice!! Your googles do not have any delay or crash? Thank´s

[@KenHeron]

Much appreciated Roberto! No, the Fat Shark goggles I'm using hook into the controller via HDMI, so the only lag is the minimal you get from Light Bridge.

[@grayscale.]

3:27 Woah woah woah! Easy there Ken ;) Love your videos!

[@KenHeron]

Yeah, flying sideways 10 feet off of the ground, maybe not so wise.

[@timsweet5295]

Hey Ken, I got a pro 4+ back in july. I shopped and researched for a while until seeing your videos on KZbin. And your amazing and informative drone videos sealed the deal for me. Now I'm wondering what editing program you're using? Thanks, Tim

[@CaptainGiovanni]

Like the video, have bought the filters, but have not arrived as of this date. I know the value of the filters as I have been photographing in a semi professional way in the past. My only issue is with the first part of the video, those two different shots were taken at different times of the day and do affect results. But like I said the rest was great and I'm looking forward to using them. Congrats on the video......

[@KenHeron]

Thanks Capt'n! --Best of luck with your photography!

[@airadaimagery692]

Do you adjust your camera settings when using an ND8? What editing software do you use for video editing and to add the music?

[@hopeiwei]

It's like the HDR effect.

[@716calvin]

What settings for the iso, aperature, and the other setting? Thanks Edit: spelled some things wrong

[@christopherreid1086]

Is this drone a phantom 4 or the phantom 4 advance, excellent video by the way.

[@johnrodgersdigital]

drone girl you are just fantastic!! I will love you till my days end. good boy too. I'm so happy for you!!! hello from Canada.🤘

[@djiphantom9730]

cool video and amazing sound

[@jcam4083]

How does your drone go so far w/o lagging or getting choppy footage

[@Doubleolseven]

the nd filter gives you contrast in bright areas at the expense of turning shaded areas into pitch black. is a trade-off

[@elanniroseadventures]

"filter reduces shutter speed".... this is true but if you are filming and not taking photos than your shutter speed should remain at a constant(2x the frames per second, i.e. if you are shooting 30fps, then your shutter needs to remain at 1/60).... the only changes that should be made in video settings is ISO and aperture.

[@elanniroseadventures]

also interested in what the ISO, F-stop and SS were for filter vs no filter

[@Frikandel4life]

Nice reviews !! question.....you film in D-Log mode with ND filter ? can you you tell me what setting you film : what mode and Sharpness Contrast and Saturation

[@KenHeron]

Thank you! No D-log, just default settings and some color-correction in editing. I do bump up contrast a bit.

[@Frikandel4life]

+Ken Heron thx for the info !

[@4fo4u4r4]

very nice Ken.

[@LuisAlvarez-fj5ny]

well..I've watched many videos on nd filters usage..this is the best. Do you use automatic settings, add the ND8 filter if need it and shoot? or do you use manual and adjust ISO, etc to get the 2x rule? Also, I use "none" like you, but all people recommend D-log if you do color correction, I 've found I loose detail/sharpness ( mushy trees) in D-Log, what do you think?

[@KenHeron]

I've had better luck with auto settings, but professional still photographers do like the D-Log. For the purposes of KZbin I'll stick with auto settings. I am too ADHD to spend hours color-correcting a video to death.

[@MrBrown121]

Cool video! Awesome Logo! Awesome LOGO! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!

[@joeflizo135]

Hey Ken, are you on auto or manual settings for the ISO and shutter speed while you have the NDs on? thank you

[@KenHeron]

Always on AUTO. But that's my preference.

[@PinchnerHouse]

Great video Ken. What other Video settings are you using? Are you making any adjustments to the color, exposure, etc, after you take the video?

[@KenHeron]

Thank you! During the demonstration part I left settings flat. For just the flying around the pit stuff I adjusted contrast a bit, but no color grading.

[@PinchnerHouse]

+Ken Heron - Do you manually adjust your shutter speed for the ND filters or do you just let auto do its thing? I definite am going to get one of these filters. Thanks.

[@florianz3]

You inspired me to edit some phantom footage myself and upload it to KZbin. Nobody is watching it tho ^^

[@KenHeron]

I just watched your boat elevator video. --Impressive structure! (And nice piloting too.)

[@florianz3]

Means a lot, thank you. Btw, to fly in there was not the best idea ive ever had, as its made out of steel and concrete, both not famous for a good remote signal. :) But I got the phantom out of there.. thats all that counts ^^

[@richt1907]

hey Ken is it possible to use the cheap headset for the drone. I've seen 20$ headset at marshals. any good? thoughts ? also did I hear in one of your vlogs thatbu lived in Jersey?

[@arramos1023]

what setting are u using for your videos. cuz o have the filter ND8 but do i used auto shootet speed and aperture or i used manual mode.. ??

[@javierruizdeoz6410]

Very nice video and demo, Ken. Congratulations. The music fits also perfectly to the grandiose landscape area. Just a question: I noticed that first flight with no ND filter was more at noon hours than the rest, showing long shadows already projecting over the terrain. Do you know if that first video was filmed with minimum ISO (i.e. 100) and maximum negative EV exposure to avoid at maximum the highlights? or maybe the light was so strong that even with these corrections the overexposure took place... I have just got the 6-pack PolarPro lenses (NDs plus polarizers) and after watching your video I am waiting anxiously to try them all! Thanks again for your work :-)

[@KenHeron]

Thanks Javier! Yes, I used minimal ISO. I also returned to the pit when the shadows were longer and the sun was setting to accentuate the difference an ND Filter can give. Have fun with your filters!

[@javierruizdeoz6410]

Thanks to you too. As I said, very cool video in global: edit, colors, music... and the bit of humor with your hand "launching" the drone to fly from the edge!

[@georgemangakis1208]

One review says that when the filter lens are on the camera to heavy for the gimbal to work properly, is that true?Thanks GM

[@KenHeron]

Some filters may be too heavy, but I've never had a problem. Plus, I doubt Polar Pro would make a filter specifically for the Phantom without making sure it couldn't hurt it.

[@YAKUILLASIN]

Hi Ken, what were your settings? just got the P4 and I'm getting a lot of jello like footage. Great video as always. Thanks

[@KenHeron]

I shoot at 3840×2160 (4K) 30p. If you're getting the jello effect, you might to an auto-calibration on your gimbal. Also might consider an IMU calibration as well. (Be very careful doing this.)

[@kirkchase5048]

Im so dumb, got a random ND8 filter. slapped it on my Mav pro and took me a week to figure out the gimbal motor overload error...the filter would get stuck to the side of gimbal! Which of course lead to videoing the underside of the drone.....Make sure before you buy it says "can be installed before start up" !!!!!! I believe they are called "cinematic type" thin enough to miss the side of gimbal.

[@mo1122585]

Looks Awesome! I have the PolarPro ND4 PL ND8 PL & ND16 PL I was wondering what camera settings you use on the P4 Im fairly new to this... Also did you use any color correction or photoshop? Thanks for the awesome videos

[@KenHeron]

You can fiddle with the ISO, but with filters I've had better luck letting the camera do auto-mode. I shoot at 3840×2160 (4K) 30p. A bit of color-correction and contrast. Thank you for watching my awesome videos!

[@mo1122585]

Thanks for the tips and keep up the awesome videos.

[@TheTravelersPlanet]

What ND-filter do you recommend and where to buy? :) BTW really nice video

[@o0OmgImHere0o]

Wow, you got close to that Dozers roof there! especially with goggles on you fly with confidence.... I've just picked up a Phantom4 and have uploaded a video of my struggles getting it into the air haha! (I managed to ok). Getting myself a set of ND filters... would you recommend a variable filter or a set of filters with different stops? thanks for the great video, Ken. Subbed.

[@KenHeron]

Thank you for the SUB! I use a set of three ND filters from Polar Pro. I haven't had a need for any above an ND-8.

[@o0OmgImHere0o]

Awesome. Thanks for the reply, Ken. I'll pick up a set this week. I am Hoping to upload a video I've done for a friends property before bed. It would mean a lot if you would check it out when it's uploaded. Thanks Ken!

[@paully8031]

Superb Ken

[@KenHeron]

Much appreciated Paul!

[@MiseEnPlace26]

Are both shot in "auto" or did you switch to manual for the ND filtered footage?

[@2flyfar]

Can you tell me what are the best VR goggles to be used on the phantom 3 professional, Im hearing varying reviews on makes

[@KenHeron]

You betcha! Here I am to tell you all about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6Cyfoeegb-Lh80

[@machbauer132]

4:40 marvelous landscape, but a gradient filter would have helped a lot!

[@jiffcia]

what is the difference between move up the shutter speed and adding the ND filter ?

[@KenHeron]

www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/neutral-density-filters.htm

[@arramos1023]

What software do you used to edit all your videos. thanks.