HUGE SPANDEX Projector Screen for Home Theater

[@warrenxanthos8241]

Hey man great job on the screen, I'm considering making one myself. I'm not trying to be snarky here, just genuinely trying to help. The reason you had trouble with the Kreg clamp is because you were using the wrong one. That clamp is intended to hold your peices together to drive the screws after the pocket holes have been drilled. The one you needed has a flat disc on both sides, and it works much better. Hope that helps in future projects! Have a great day, and thanks for the tutorial!

[@brooklyncollegepac9648]

Great job Kennis, and fantastic that SOMEone finally is speaking out about the importance of a couple of cinematic realities. Everyone TALKS about having a Home Theatre, but compromise on these very essential aspects of cinema presentation. As you say, it is important that speakers need to be placed BEHIND the screen for maintaining the illusion of sound coming from the actors when they speak. This is why EVERY theatre on the planet places their speakers behind the screen. This also allows you to use a center channel with speakers of the same size and characteristics as the left and right speakers...again all theatres use three IDENTICAL speakers systems for the L, C, R channels. This idea of using a little puny toy speaker for the center channel as so many home theatre sound systems do, while it may be convenient, it's certainly not what the sound mixing engineers of a movie soundtrack expect the end playback system will be using. Is it any wonder why so many people complain that the dialogue is unintelligible or too low compared to the music score and sound effects -- well hello -- the dialogue which primarily is reproduced by the center channel is being played back by some dinky little speaker a forth the size and capacity of the Left and Right channel speakers. Duh. So congratulations Kennis on all counts -- great construction job, great understanding that speakers should be behind the screen to produce coherent sound localization and not off to the sides and underneath it and also, that most important and misunderstood concept of aspect ratios -- that CinemaScope/Panavision aspect ratio is supposed to get WIDER, not smaller than standard 1.66:1 or 1.85:1. Common height is the right way to go, not common width; common width completely defeats the reason they invented CinemaScope -- the whole purpose of CinemaScope was to make the image get wider than the standard image, not smaller and squatter. Finally you recognize the importance of the center channel. Good effin show!! Happy movie watching!

[@frankfarago2825]

"EVERY theatre on the planet places their speakers behind the screen." That was the case until recently. But now, with the Samsung Onyx 4K VIDEO WALL THEATERS taking over, there are no speakers behind the video walls obviously. Go to the JBL Pro Cinema Loudspeakers site to see what they are doing instead. Perforated screen th4eaters are going away, slowly but surely. When you have perf'd screen, both the image and the sound trying to break through from behind the screen are much compromised.

[@frankfarago2825]

You were very smart to do this for health reasons alone. The regular VINYL screens are petroleum-based, and are awful for your lungs and respiratory system in dark, windowless spaces like screening rooms. Some will have the stink even 2 years after installation. So, SPANDEX or POLYSTER SILK, yes, and if you have a little more $$ or €€, then ORGANIC SILK from China or Iran (here in Europe, we are permitted to purchase products from Iran, believe it or not). No Russian silk, though. :-))

[@edgargomez8662]

First of all I apologize for invading my opinion, I live in Southlake Texas, I've seen many videos on how to make a screen, and looking at the way I did it, I congratulate you ... and you have a lot of reason it is not necessary spend thousands of dollars when you can build yourself this screen, which in the end is equal to or better than one that is very expensive ... thanks for sharing your video

[@murugaprabhu7405]

Very nice super congratulations 👍

[@fanoftheboxtoo]

AWESOME video, great conversation, great build. I'm jumping back into HT great to see so much info out there.

[@BillSands2112]

That was sweet brother and thanks for sharing

[@davidgunther1282]

From the research I’ve done, you can’t buy a “nice” acoustically transparent screen that big for less than $5k.

[@kennisrussell]

Dang. Well I sure like this guy for a fraction of the price.

[@cookingwithsanjay]

Thanks for this super informative DIY screen video. I am toying with the idea of a DIY screen in my next home theater and this build looks super easy. I too own the Kreg jig and man, that thing makes building stuff with wood super easy. Your screen looks awesome!

[@nakanation9856]

Outstanding work my friend

[@KASmonkeys]

thanks!

[@Stick4569]

Longer video, but thank you so much for the discussion on aspect ratio! I'm still in the planning process for my home theater.

[@Michaelbrian777]

Excellent job. Looks great.

[@davidabraham5928]

That looks amazing mate. Well done. A good template for my HT screen in the next 6 months.

[@sheilamack4504]

You made this screen to get the right coverage of picture , without seeing the black bars. And then you covered the inches of seen screen with tape. So now the picture is smaller again. I saw as you put the tape on, the video was getting covered. Interesting to use lycra material. But since alr screens are the best, you should have tried to get silver color.

[@NHKxt]

yeah i waws a bit perplexed when i saw this myself... why did he do that , unless he adjust later.... i hope

[@mellymel8226]

Way to go Kennis.

[@CWK09]

You should try ivory spandex if you like a warmer color. Some projectors can be calibrated more accurately with the ivory.

[@cgeyye9916]

Awesome, thanks man😊👍

[@glacierwookie]

Nice work brother!

[@acelakid94]

Now to somehow do a curved version of this.

[@sstrick500]

Very nice! Was hoping to see what 16:9 looked like (or how you made it work). I think I'll try the 2.35 size. Its less of an eye-sore in my living room (yeah...bachelor pad).

[@cmyskill5272]

Great video.... Now that you have had the screen for a few months how is the sound coming through the acoustic screen?

[@lookingforplaces]

interesting project

[@devincouser1271]

100 likes sir, im inspired

[@FunkBaz]

Not sure if it's just me, but at the end of the video it feels like the screen is a bit higher on the right-side. As in not level.

[@sunilkolekar1794]

Good

[@wolefreeman]

I love your diy video. I am not the handy type. But I don'tind if u can give me the specifications of the wood and the exact measurements cut for each of the wood and the tools used. So ican just go cut it riggt at home depot and all I just do is to join dem together I'll appreciate if u can give me a response.

[@jcjc8939]

Do you know the model number or a link to those specific hurricane ties? I have looked everywhere on Home Depot, Lowes, Google and can't seem to find this exact one. Thanks

[@ravisdxb]

Will this screen work with Ultra Short Throw projectors since the angle of light will make the light bounce to the ceiling? Normally the vendors suggest to use light rejection screens. Appreciate your feedback. Great cost saving idea.

[@brianpinkham2935]

Also one more thing not sure if you use the mat finish or the Pearl or shiny finish for the white

[@musicman257]

Looks good Ken cant wait to see it done are you gonna you use the big barco projectors and just curiours what brand our the speakers.

[@KYIMGMG]

How to joint two screens for 270 warp curved for flight sim, Please

[@JmanRx81]

Are you saying Kreg "jib"?

[@devincouser1271]

Can you just use grey spandex?

[@craiglister9689]

Great video! What is that strip you used around the @14:20 mark?

[@asesuvartotojas]

Any idea if spandex suffers from laser projector speckles? I ordered screen and grey alr material bothers me with speckles. Trying to figure out if i should go with spandex on that frame...

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

You really need to build a fake wall . i looked into this kind of setup with speakers behind the screen , but the only way i would do it is with a fake wall and framing for speakers . But im not handy so alas 16:9 for me .

[@TheJuls630]

Nice screen how many yards of material did you use ?

[@Jeremy-kw2fe]

hey I know this may be off subject but I saw you strat video I found one and am afraid to buy it looks old can I send you some pics? and see what you think?

[@daveyurik]

kennis sorry if i missed it. how is the sound? did you do any tests with / without the screen? did the FL C and FR levels need to come up to balance things out? Did it change the sound coming through the screen? i don't need video proof but am very curious your thoughts about sound quality through the double spandex. thanks.

[@brianpinkham2935]

Wow brother looks great!!! I went on spandex world and I was wondering if you know the product number that you purchased and also the measurements of the spandex you bought... The site is a little confusing and I'm not sure which one you used... It be great if you can help me out with this...

[@csabo1725]

Links in the description

[@geogan2]

The thing that is annoying me about the Spandex sheets is they seem to only come in 58/60" height maximum, so there is no way to make bigger screens than this height.

[@kennisrussell]

Well it does stretch a great deal. 60” could probably stretch 80” or more.

[@michaelabelaj1581]

Background music is killing me, distracting from the actual content

[@scorchearth5808]

Love the video. How does the picture look when the lights are on.

[@scorchearth5808]

@@kennisrussell Thank you very much. Would you be able to make a video watching a movie with all the lights on and the curtains open. Reason I ask is my space is all by bright. There is 5 windows in the space i want to build this in.

[@spiffdaddy]

make it lighter/cheaper use PVC pipe instead wood..just saying...

[@SubtlyAggressive]

6:58 You're using it wrong. It's a Right-Angle Clamp. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYbOhnqQiK57gLM

[@David7pm]

Thank you

[@faysalusman]

What are the exact dimensions of the screen frame you built ? I am interested in having a 120 inch 2.35:1 for my HT. How much spandex did you order to have the required fit ?

[@Sryously]

I've got an Artlii 720p projector about 14-15ft away from the wall I'm projecting to, 126"x58" picture, does this spandex stuff stretch enough to make a frame that big? Should I not stretch it? The diagonal is almost 140" across, so not buying one of those cheap 120" projector screens from eBay. I plan on hanging it like a picture, maybe 3D printing a cleats to hang it and be able to take it off.

[@mustaphag]

Nice video. What kind of projector are you using?

[@rickwookie]

I watched the whole video, but somehow I still missed the part where you demonstrated that the screen really is acoustically transparent.

[@kennisrussell]

I didn’t film that. It is though.

[@csabo1725]

How do you film audio going through a sheet of spandex?

[@rickwookie]

csabo1725 Yes, if only there were devices that measure sound levels, that could be videoed with and without the screen, to show the loss.

[@victorpulos7955]

What do you do when watching a movie that is a 2:40.1?

[@salmonline]

Simpson strong-tie flat straps on the back...lol...

[@salmonline]

Oh, there they are at 14:00. I just recognized them from the front cuz I've nailed up about 16 million of those things here in Florida.

[@salmonline]

Very informative, btw. I want an AT screen, as well. Hadn't thought about how to build one. I had though about making my own regular kind out of 1/4 inch MDF

[@hulkhoagie8527]

How many yards did you buy of spandex?

[@macholowe]

Just out of curiosity is this shiny spandex or not and would it make any difference if the black was shiny and white a normal colour, what do you think ? Thanks. amazing cheap but great quality screen.

[@csabo1725]

The purpose of the black is to absorb light so what do you think turd for brains?

[@dyejimmy]

I think I saw on AVS that the two listed in the video description (matte) make a gain of 0.9 or 1.0. If you went with shiny, that would change that. If you need a higher gain, try shiny.

[@rafiksnoop1599]

Please allow what is the name of paste black screen frame plz

[@bizzy511]

How many yards of the spandex did you buy?

[@ericataylor927]

What kinda seats are those in your theater room?

[@M5JamesE39]

Nice job! I had originally ordered a standard 92" 16:9 screen but per recommendations on AVSForums, I was told I should look into 2:39 and I came across your video. I followed your links for the black and white Spandex, but I don't recall how much you ordered in yards overall. The area I'm working with is 130 3/4" x 48"...I'm not sure what makes a perfect 2:39 ratio but I could go about 10" higher if needed. What do you suggest on yards needed in each color? I also don't see a link for the black felt you used on the border.

[@rolandboughton6015]

I'll help out here....if 48"is your maximum allowable screen height, the width of a 2.39:1 image would be 115" (124" diagonal) For that size you would need to order4 yards each of Black & White Milliskin. Come back onto AVS to get some really constructive help.

[@M5JamesE39]

@@rolandboughton6015 Thanks for that, Roland. Here's the thread with pics so it makes more sense as to what I'm trying to accomplish. I'll likely still go the full 130" width for the sake of uniformity (you'll see what I mean w/ one of my pictures) and then I'll install drapes to adjust the sides as needed based on the picture ratio. www.avsforum.com/forum/showthread2.php?p=57890318#post57890318

[@abjsf69]

Hi, I was thinking of ordering, would you happen to know how many yards I would need to order for a 150-200 inch screen ?

[@abjsf69]

Kennis Russell Thank you for the response. Great video and screen.

[@youdidwhatnow]

Ok so I went looking for spandex and I came across silver, has anyone used this or even the silver with white over? Just wondering if the silver screen might have better color.. ?

[@youdidwhatnow]

@@kennisrussell that is what I was thinking of doing. Sample is 6" circle so makes more sense to me to just buy a yard.

[@junkfilter77]

Are you still happy with your screen? Does it have enough of a gain for 3D content? I need this inexpensive solution to work, because acoustically transparent screens are so expensive.

[@kennisrussell]

Yes and yes. I say give it a shot. Realize though that 3D is about half the brightness on any screen and will never be like a 2D movie. That being said, the first thing I did was buy a bunch of 3D movies and really enjoy watching them. My conclusion is that the weakest link in 3D that make 3D frustrating is 1. Glasses fit and function (everyone’s face is different. I have three brands of glasses and some prefer different brands). 2. Room needs to be really dark. 3. Bad movies, some 3D movies are not that good. 4. Projector settings (just have to play around with it). 5. Screen, which I have has no problem with. Anyway I hope that helps.

[@junkfilter77]

@@kennisrussell Thanks for your quick response! I'm still fantasizing that everyone would have fun with my huge 3D collection, but no one enjoys the glasses. 4K has been a great way to ween myself off of 3D. I'm glad the screen works great for 4K; definitely the route I will take to DIY.

[@Leroy100]

Do you really need the music playing while you're talking?

[@teolong2631]

Hello, I went to spandexworld.com but it's overwhelming what they have; what kind of spandex did you actually order so I can order the same? I also noticed you have what seems to be an Epson 3700, 3500, Am I right? How did you get that projector to throw 2.35:1 without having to adjust zoom manually ? If I'm not mistaking those two model number cannot project wide screen like that. Great video by the way.

[@teolong2631]

That's what I thought, I had the 3700 for a short while and never noticed that feature. Next year Epson should come out with a true or faux 4K version to compete with Optoma and Benq at around same price as 5040UB which I hope supports 3D. Thanks for sharing the spandex info and I think I'm going to make me a screen like yours.

[@jokur2630]

Kennis Russell How many yards of each color did you order? Would 3.5 (7 yards total) work for a 120” 2.35:1 screen (approx 64”H x 110”H frame). Also, does IKEA sell lumber? I see the Made in Sweden sticker on your framing at 8:20 mark ;)

[@MrJohnmichael33]

Jokur 26 Home Depot lumber is now purchased from Sweden

[@jokur2630]

Kennis Russell Thanks

[@cesarberumenlarios4650]

Well your screen is to beautiful with out the black frame I don't think you really need it because you are wasting a good area and you are loosing a good porsent of the screen I see you have a very grate and powerful protector ();-) greeting from Guadalajara Jalisco Mexico (y) (b)

[@DennyHartwig]

What is the name of the company that sold you the spandex?

[@nickbessey5352]

@@kennisrussell Do you remember the exact spandex?

[@HughMyronM8]

Will the spandex stretch enough to cover a 124" x 70" frame? The width on the spandex world site states it is 58/60" wide.

[@HughMyronM8]

Thanks. I'll try to get a small piece to test first. The viewing distance is 20 feet.

[@wbuttry1]

you spent 130 dollar on a diy screen? I built mine for 60dollars total thats with lights and buying a screen for 30 dollars on amazon.

[@TheRudedaddy]

Great video but I'm going to save your viewers a lot of excruciating pain. Skip to 5:22.

[@kennisrussell]

Thanks.

[@nareshpatel4975]

👌👌👌👌👍🍹⚘uk

[@bobanderson2895]

Back round music is annoying.

[@fabianalejandrosalas9372]

No sé porque hablan tanto estos tipos...

[@mandeepkalsi9119]

WTF is spandexx ?? and can u do a 2.39 screen

[@csabo1725]

Do you live under a rock and do they have Google there?

[@Dukefrukem]

It's so weird to me when I see these DIY videos and these guys are too cheap or lazy to buy a proper workbench for their chopsaws. Like hell I'm doing all this on my driveway

[@kennisrussell]

Sorry this diy didn’t meet your standards.

[@kennisrussell]

Sorry this diy didn’t meet your standards.

[@Dukefrukem]

@@kennisrussell I apologize for coming off crude. I took my rough morning out on youtube.

[@Elbandidos.PORTOCORSE]

rien de génial faire l'assemblage a même la moquette , n'apprend rien ,pas suivre votre chaine

[@rolandboughton6015]

You should give more specific credit to the DIY Screen Forum on AVS since 90% of everything done right in the Video came from that source. It is a respectable effort....but a lot was "seat of your Pants" and that isn't a good way to teach people.

[@sunilkolekar1794]

Good