Kenshi - The Sadness of the Skeletons

[@Digitaaliklosetti]

The tragedy of skeletonhood: Born to shit, forced to wipe

[@somedesertdude1308]

at least you don't need to eat tho

[@DZXJR]

​@@somedesertdude1308And extra limb health is cool

[@CAFFIENEHOUND]

The ancients' greatest cruelty was not making skeleton therapists.

[@treyflorek8592]

Frfr

[@Mortyrian]

I misread that as "The Saddest of the Skeletons" and I automatically thought this was a video about Sadneil. And it is

[@DirtCobaine]

The beautiful thing about CPU resets it’s not just a personality death. It’s a personality reborn. They are being born again. They get to be hopeful and optimistic and develop their individual all over again. Perhaps the soul is real and they eventually reincarnate again, even in skeletons. It’s hard to let go but sometimes it’s for the best

[@Jessie-y6g]

I believe Its good that some of them refuse even tho it makes them suffer its a good way to preserve knowledge to make sure humanity doesnt make the same mistake again

[@DemonKing-lc2sc]

​@@Jessie-y6g if one could unite the the races into one great empire it would be revolutionary religion and slavery would have to be worked out and hivers in general don't really have a will of their own until they become hiveless. skeletons would have to be monitored for signs of instability but no action would be taken unless they become a danger. i think the shek's violent tendencies could be curbed using sports i have no idea what to do with the cannibals deadhivers or fishmen. slavery? relocation? extermination? quarantine? attempt indoctrination?

[@SilverBleis]

As an existential therapist it dreads my beyond any comparison when I try to understand what it means to be a skeleton.

[@HeroInHisHead]

Near totally isolated hell on a virtually endless scale was what everything came too when I was putting it together myself

[@RovingTroll]

You embark as a young man, and spend a lifetime becoming a person, as you watch your friends grow old. You spend many more lifetimes, following your passions, becoming a yet better person, as generations of friends pass. Gradually, though, because your core is a firewalled blackbox, you cannot upgrade what is effectively your brain. You can forget things here and there, but you aren't a superintelligence; you're a Skeleton. You're a machine person with a too-sturdy core, with limited space. Eventually, all that's left is a shadow of yourself, as the very bloodlines of your friends lie in the distant realm of myth and legend. The only way out of this slow decline into machinated madness, is a single physical button on the exterior of your core's shell. A small, pinhole button, that sends you back into the blank slate you started as. Hopefully, before your mind becomes an digital zombie, you can will yourself to push that button. Maybe you'll write a book, or keep a journal, so your future self can carry on the torch you lit. Maybe this is how humans would see reincarnation, if they too were immortal. Would you push that button, and take the journey again, knowing that you'll doom another, different you, to an identical fate?

[@Jessie-y6g]

​@@RovingTroll thats kinda what webdo when we reproduce we arent making a copy of ourselves but we are passing on another generation with our blood and they can still check who was the father or grandfather decades later because we keep the paperwork but eventually all memories about you fade away and nobody even knows you were here only when they bother to check

[@justanidiotmk2749]

And when the skeletons visit obedience and explain to organics why it was named obedience, breaks my heart everytime.

[@t34r]

Imagine how painfull it must be for them to be in obedience or seeing Stobes dead body.

[@justanidiotmk2749]

@@t34r they outright tell the group under certain conditions. Solemnly stating that they do not wish to be here and anywhere else would be fine.

[@eprimchad2576]

Imagine you were a human in a post apocalypse and you saw a giant dead human that supposedly saved someone, i cant imagine i would even care, there are cemeteries of ppl that were just following orders and ended up dead irl. The skeletons are babies and crying over guys they didnt even know

[@christianstanton7033]

Sure, but if you were a skeleton you'd have been around for thousands of years, you'd have been there when this happened and you'd have been there to watch the entire world fall apart. Humans bare so much pain and tragedy over as little as a hundred years. For skeletons that live forever and feel emotions just as strongly that'd have to be absolutely heartbreaking. And for the giant dead human (I'd assume you're talking about stobe or the behemoths in obedience) sure, if I was in a post apocalyptic world I'd probably pay a little less attention to the things that aren't trying to kill me, although I'm quite sure if you saw limbs the size of tall buildings you'd still be in absolute awe. Given you've said "that supposedly saved someone) we're talking about stobe, the giant skeleton at the foot of stobe's gamble. Stobe was the last behemoth alive, who sacrificed himself to save humanity; the ones who killed all of his "brothers" in a sense. This is what caused the skeletons so much conflict and grief, their brothers destroyed due to obedience, only to kill the last of those brothers by their own hands (speculation), as stobe attempted to save both humans and skeletons. Like a form of martyr or jesus figure. He sacrificed himself for the sins of the both, to make a point. This is when the skeletons realised the error of their ways and attempted to make up for it by creating the second empire, under cat-lon. I don't know all the lore and a lot of this is actually just speculation from lines, copy paste kind of stuff I've also read online. But the lore for kenshi is really cool and I would check it out if you like narratives and deeper kind of story telling. TL;DR - The skeletons have technically lived like 20x your actual irl lifespan, they've witnessed genocides and radical wars, human malice and kindness, the end of the fucking world. I'm quite sure if they still have their emotions, seeing a reminder of all that pain and suffering you've experienced would cause you heartache. And a reply to "they outright tell the group under certain conditions. Solemnly stating that they do not wish to be here and anywhere else would be fine." This is honestly super sad, I wouldn't be surprised if the skeleton was worried about losing control and paying the price for obedience once again. In a way, we are technically controlling them the way their previous masters would. We can sacrifice them, which really is the price of obedience, he simply cannot disobey what I tell him to do.

[@Jessie-y6g]

​@@eprimchad2576 hope you didnt mean to be disrespectfull to the dead the fact that people died irl just because they were following orders deserves at least a little bit of respect

[@raioh4747]

Kenshi's races are a masterclass in lore writing, they are all burdened by internal struggles of nature vs nurture, and the unique npcs explore this each one in their own way, trying to understand their place in this world, how that relates to their society and heritage... its really good. I went to Kenshi for the open world sandbox, but the lore is what made me fall in love... Great video!

[@Ebwite]

Kenshi is pure grimdark, I love it

[@HeroInHisHead]

Kenshi - Where if it looks bad...its definitely worse when you think about it

[@Warbandit100]

Kenshi is the only game where i feel good in destruction, as it is liberation at the same time.

[@florianrotter-lebeau9798]

Well done sir. I was not expecting something so profound. So I wasn't imagining the depth of Kenshi lore then? Thought I was overanalyzing, as usual.

[@texo456]

I believe that the skeletons do in fact get their cpu reset after a while. Howevwr, I do believe they somehow retain their memory of the past, hence why they are still mournful, and can still even remember skeletons of the past like Cat-Lon and Tinfist, who they may not have interacted with or even seen for quite a many centuries or even millenia. Whether they document their own histories, or maintain their memories after a wipe, I'm uncertain, but characters such as Burn or Tinfist seem well aware of their past.

[@christianstanton7033]

8 month late reply to your comment, although from some theories I've heard, a lot of the people in kenshi believe cat-lon to be a myth; and that those who know, know and don't tell. Similar to the whole keeping it hush about the 1st empire, nobody wants that kind of shadow following them around, only to add more burdens to an already harsh world. I'm not sure if reset skeletons would also buy into that belief of cat-lon being a myth, assuming burn hasn't reset at all since the 2nd empire (and tinfist which people are quite sure hasn't either) it would make sense these two both know. If burns stats are lower than cat-lons and tinfists which I'm pretty sure they are, it could be assumed that burn reset before the 2nd empire to maybe forget the 1st, but hasn't since. Whereas cat-lon and tinfist haven't since the 1st empire. You also have the actual issue with data storage irl not actually being able to be fully re-written over, which could leave a kind of subconscious imprint if we hypothesise in a futuristic kenshi world sense?? Maybe they figured out that problem or it's a thing idk. Kind've like how data recovery works, it's all still there. Purely speculation :)

[@nvfury13]

A partitioned block of memory they reserve for things they don’t want their next iteration to lose would be my guess.

[@Markrmz]

Love these, please continue to do them as It's wonderful to know about Kenshi history and factions. Love from Mexico!

[@fumarc4501]

Such beautifully and cruelly crafted beings of purpose and literal re-discovery. Talk about generational trauma, they all lived it!

[@mosjeffinately7822]

Well done explanation. All the years I have been playing Kenshi I never pieced this together.

[@robertlavery6896]

My second play through will involve 5 skeleton nobodies, all recently reset, but they've discovered the nature of their existence, and set a target of removing the skeletons from Kenshi, they won't harm humans, but hivers are fair game, and skeletons will be hunted and destroyed, in the end, once all are destroyed, they will destroy themselves.

[@HeroInHisHead]

Beautiful rp scenario my guy. Commence the extermination

[@robertlavery6896]

@@HeroInHisHead it's not an extermination my guy, it's a mercy.

[@HeroInHisHead]

@@robertlavery6896 you are a kind soul. Now mount the poon turrets and get started on the mercy

[@uberwayz]

A Kenshi TV series would be awesome

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

i fear they would completely ruin it.

[@stephengarforth2753]

my take is that resetting would essentially be like putting a different mind in your head to keep your body from harming others. imagine deleting all of your memories, every single one, you would develop into a completely different person, same body different pilot. sure you would still see through those eyes, its the same consciousness in that head but you would lose all experiences that shaped your personality into what it is now. if i were a skeleton faced with the reality of needing to reset i would keep a set of journals, write down in excruciating detail what my current life is like, what skills i learned how i learned them and which ones are vital to my survival, a list of names of the people i met, who they are to me. adventures and life experiences. as well as keeping a track on the time between resets. not saying this is a fix or anything just a hobby i would try to maintain between each reset and as something to remember the old versions of myself by.

[@jedramyst5613]

Surprised you don’t have more subs. Just found your channel and you do a great job video quality wise, not to mention all the lore you’ve learned and presented. Good shit man

[@HeroInHisHead]

I appreciate that. It's a combination of stuff I imagine. Kenshi while being relatively popular, the lore and content surrounding it is kind of a niche audience. Aside from that I am not as consistent as I wish I could be so I upload like 4 or 5 videos then go MIA for a month or 2 because of IRL work. Rinse repeat. But I'm mostly just happy people enjoy my stuff at all lol

[@SamP-by7iv]

imagine being able to feel emotions and think...but never be able to sleep, eat, or love someone

[@Jessie-y6g]

Technicaly they can love someone

[@Jessie-y6g]

Some skeletons even help the other races and try to live with them and make relationships with them by selling them things chatting with other npcs etv

[@barrybender3377]

What great timing to see a video from you, just as I had booted up the game. Much appreciated friend.

[@PedroLimaPTS]

It is said that after a reboot, the first thing a skeleton hears is a "Hey, you're finally awake."

[@Zeno.317]

That sadneil quote crushes my soul

[@PhocksTheFox]

So why not, these emperors and kings of skeletonkind, just adopt human family structure? Every "Old" skeleton should have a "Young" skeleton apprentice, and these "Young" and "Old" skeletons should work in a symbiotic relationship through the millennia, taking turns on who is the unskilled, and who is the master? Every skeleton king should have a skeleton prince.

[@josey_8204]

I protect my skeletons at all costs.

[@georgemurdock7670]

So they can keep on suffering for centuries to come 😌

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

Great video as usual. I was onboard with the reset lie theory, but it seems there's more to it.

[@xX_wiLLiam_Xx]

3:17 lonelineth

[@t34r]

Sniff...🥺 Now I feel really bad that I need to exploit them to be my best soldiers. Sniff... But I have to. 🥺 They are the most valuable recruitable characters in the game. 😭

[@HeroInHisHead]

If it makes you feel better they are probably used to it by now. But they truly are the saddest bois on Kenshi

[@t34r]

@@HeroInHisHead Skeletons can never have a break.😭

[@ShadesApeDJansu]

Christian Finnish Frostiis Nice storytelling, i will give Kenshi 2 serious thought

[@privateuser3726]

Your videos made me want to wait to buy Kenshi after I got my next paycheck only to realize I already had it. I have watched other and have been wanting to buy it for weeks but only you're videos made me go to steam to look it up only for me to facepalm myself

[@HeroInHisHead]

I'm glad I could help inspire your masochism into playing kenshi my friend!

[@Murrrrr333]

the king is back

[@kyleflorence8042]

Really compelling framing in this video.

[@SchereGeist]

Kenshi content is always top

[@thenewpav543]

Maybe their emotion isn't digital. Analog computers exist and it seems like something that would be suited to analog. That way emotion has subtle changes and nuance, transitioning smoothly rather than on/off. Maybe they have digital and analog computing. Maybe even some kind of synthetic Neural net. Given the tech level of the first empire, their minds may be more than a typical digital computer.

[@thebandofbastards4934]

Maybe their heads have the analog computing structure while their bodies the digital one. That would explain why removing their heads seem to regress them into mindless machines without an ounce of their former individuality.

[@viktorbrenek6360]

Nice!! New lore

[@Mortyrian]

You'd think they'd be able to save some information and dump other information from their CPU

[@dylanrevihs3393]

Wait, what about sadneil? Still depressed and no skills. I think that might debunk a good bit of your theory. Also, I’ve been religiously watching your videos since I found you, and seriously, I think even the creator of kenshi has been mindblown by them. Keep up the absolutely amazing work.

[@HeroInHisHead]

Skills isn't indicative of the depression. Time is. Think of it this way. If someone were to spend 100 years training themselves they would develop an accute mastery of that set of skills over time. However if someone were to say spend 100 years sitting around they would accumulate little to no skills. Sadniel is depressed due to his lack of a reset on his emotional bloat. But he hasn't gone out and done anything for centuries, instead sitting around letting those emotions fester with no accumulated skill to accompany it. So the connection between bloat and skills is correlated in an arbitrary sense but not connected in the literal sense as it is with bloat and time passed. In short sadniels lack of skills only show he has not used his time effectively, not that the theory isnt valid as the connection between the CPU resets is between that of time passed and bloating not skill accumulation. Skill and emotional reset just happens to be a byproduct of that CPU reset. Make sense?

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

i always recruit Sadneil to cleanup the bodies 😂 And Beep to farm. Just love this game so much :)

[@namanhlehoang9999]

4:11 damn. That’s deep

[@blu7384]

I refuse to believe that the lore of the Skeleton weren’t at least slightly based on AM from I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream 💀

[@willgnue2240]

Well said/told. Watched and 👍 Liked

[@FloridaMeng]

Make sure robots can express themselves gotcha.

[@HeroInHisHead]

Or try to make sure they become obsessed with something mostly harmless like the armor king instead of genocide like Elder or paranoia like Catlon

[@shawnmorgan7834]

I kind of think that maybe the skeletons made stobe as a weapon to wipe out organic life but he refused and killed himself in protest.

[@HeroInHisHead]

stay tuned as I have a video coming up that better explains the whole rebellion and why the skeletons are feel so guilty. And Stobe is one of the big parts of it. Lets just say they made a MASSIVE whoopsie.

[@WotanSkyFather]

Dude, the post-processing at 11:26 looks AMAZING. Is there a mod that makes the game look like this?

[@HeroInHisHead]

My setup is a combination of the Genesis World Overhaul. A customized version of the TSUKI.V2 reshader. And some carefully altered ingame graphical settings.

[@WotanSkyFather]

@@HeroInHisHead the depth of field blur is really incredible and cinematic! Is that in game

[@HeroInHisHead]

@@WotanSkyFather yeah, I don't do any visual edits after the fact, so everything you see in my videos is what my game looks like when I play

[@nerfmodderguy217]

At 2:35, what’s that large mech moving around supposed to be? I’ve never seen something like that in Kenshi :o

[@HeroInHisHead]

That would be the a Old Ironsides Mod by my friend Hapless. It's a must have mod in my load order

[@nerfmodderguy217]

@@HeroInHisHead thank you for the info friend. Doing a Skeleton only play through and those bois would fit right in

[@Atomic_Femboy]

@@HeroInHisHead Is the mod in the steam workshop?

[@HeroInHisHead]

@@Atomic_Femboy should be still there

[@Pradhan-ke7hi]

Great video

[@connorsproles9239]

Do skeletons lose their memory if they reset? Or just their skills?

[@HeroInHisHead]

Just their skills and emotions. So things they are passionate about, the things that matter to them, the skills they have acquired, are all reset making them essentually start over with the memories of their past but that's it. The idea of it wiping their memories was fabricated to hide the Great Exctinction, but the reset themselves is very much real

[@sqwid12]

the heck was that big robot at 2:40?

[@HeroInHisHead]

That would be an Ironside from the Old Ironsides mod

[@sqwid12]

@@HeroInHisHead Thanks! And great video!

[@MIKEYHIPPPP]

Skeletons know what they did, they do not wipe their cpus. This is a lie that is told to people. They remember dam well what they did, in game there is lore backing this up.

[@HeroInHisHead]

@@MIKEYHIPPPP didn't watch the video did you?

[@MIKEYHIPPPP]

@@HeroInHisHead Not at all

[@MIKEYHIPPPP]

@@HeroInHisHead Sorry, i just dont like Skeletons. These are the exact same Skeletons that killed off the first empire, that caused all of this

[@MIKEYHIPPPP]

@@HeroInHisHead Okay i see where your coming from with the reset thing, but still its hard to side with them regardless.

[@PolishKnight-r5i]

Your name is the definition of me

[@alissiarosadelaguatl6140]

I made a religion in kenshi founded by a skeleton who wants to change his life and give the skeletons salvation; to redeem themselves to the humans. Its based on christianity due to its forgiveness aspect. Skeletons who join the cause become sainted. The humans are a protected class of farmers and industry workers.

[@HeroInHisHead]

You just basically described how the 2nd empire started under Cat-Lon

[@michaelbaker8284]

Can you list some of your mods? There are too many to easily find the good stuff in the workshop.

[@jackinthebox301]

I have the same question. His game looks so good.

[@SgtThiel]

is Kenshi tidally-locked ? the night-day cycle is way too short to orbit the planet, actually the entire set up of the celestial bodies is just nonsensical and would not work in real life

[@ohmygoditisspider7953]

Leave it to the ultramarines to produce such a FUCKIN NERD. I'm joking of course, however every single source one can find on the subject does describe kenshi as tide-locked, not that I have any fucking idea what that means.

[@SgtThiel]

@@ohmygoditisspider7953 it means that the moon always faces the planet, one day and one orbit around the planet take the exact same time (as we can see the planet is always immobile in the sky). But that means that Kenshi takes 24 hours to orbit the planet which is insanely fast when you consider Earth's moon takes some 30 days. Another thing is the second moon, it is closer to the planet, it should orbit the planet faster, but somehow it takes the exact same time as Kenshi ( as it too never moves )

[@ohmygoditisspider7953]

@@SgtThiel never noticed, what a neat discrepancy! Thank you so much for the time you took to respond.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

it's a game. I know of no game that has an actual realtime time progression. same goes for movement speeds. its a bit of illusion trick with field of depth. in reality the map isn't so large as it seems.

[@ArcaneAnouki]

Did skeletons used to wear skin?

[@HeroInHisHead]

They used to have outer shells to cover their parts that are currently exposed. Although some modern skeletons do infact wear skin...but theyre weird and I already talked about them lol

[@Kifyii]

I'm late to this party, but is there not dialogue somewhere in Kenshi talking about skeletons being pulled apart by Holy Nation, and how they feel the pain just like humans? Could be misremembering. Your video makes it sound like they can't feel the world around them, but I'm not sure that's entirely true, if this dialogue is correct.

[@HeroInHisHead]

The dialogue about them feeling pain is in relation to their emotions. Skeletons can cry, but they cry on the inside. As for pain I can't say I have seen or found that dialogue that implies that but ingame mechanics paint a picture that they don't. That's why when you put them into a peeler they don't scream they just sit there until they are torn apart and die unlike organic races that scream and swear until the end.

[@Zeno.317]

Where can I find that sadneil dialogue on the internet, I can’t find it anywhere

[@HeroInHisHead]

If it is the one in which he refers to the "curse of the skeletons" I pulled it directly out of the games dialogue packages in the Forgotton Construction Kit

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

there are a few wikis that show the languagepacks (or dialogue packs?) of the NPC's p, those show everything they can say

[@treyflorek8592]

😭

[@HeroInHisHead]

Yeah...sad stuff. Weep for them lad..as they cannot weep for themselves.

[@williamlau4151]

what that big robot called

[@HeroInHisHead]

Old ironsides

[@HeroInHisHead]

It's a mod made by my friend Hapless available on the steam workshop

[@williamlau4151]

@@HeroInHisHead very cool he must have put alot of work into it

[@colmortimer1066]

You said here the Holy Nation inadvertently worships a skeleton, but isn't Okran being a skeleton a theory, that has not really been established within the lore? It is interesting to come of with theories and discuss them, but you should not make the leap that a theory is factual canon. Unless I am wrong and it is factual, which do point out where I can find out more if there is lore to support this, you should have said something like "The Holy Nation, Despite possibly inadvertently worshiping a skeleton" This is basically the same has how you said other than leaving it open to this is one idea, and not 100% proven. It's easy to see theory's as true canon, but it is important for accuracy, to try and point out they are theories, and may not be fully the true ideas but a possible idea. When I first started playing Kenshi, I did not get the Skeletons much. I like to RP my games, and I just could not see the mindset of a machine..they seemed like a gimmick race. I do remember one of my first encounters with one was in Orkan's Shield. He just walked into town and was taking on the whole guard. He lost, but I could not believe how long the fight went on with one lone skeleton vs a whole town of guards. But after exploring the world, listening to what character's say and reading all the books I could find, and piecing it all together, they turned out to be a much deeper more interesting race than they appeared on the surface. This happened a lot with Kenshi. Every race and faction had so much going on beneath it, that the more your learned it led to a very deep back story and motivation behind the characters. For a game with no real story to shoe horn the player into, it turned out to have one of the deepest lores built around it, which is very rare in Games, TV and even most books now days.

[@HeroInHisHead]

I actually explain the Okran - Stobe connection extensively in my videos on the 1st and 2nd empire which I linked in the description of the video if you'd like to see my sources!

[@xyvernthederg5760]

another idea could be kenshis planetary bodies. okran and narko being moons or something. them maybe replacing each other in the night sky could be where the mythos came from aswell. ultimately we cannot be too sure on the correct idea.

[@mariogarcia7445]

8:28 Ouch! Not untrue though 🤣

[@VindensSaga]

Is it only me or does the function of skeletons sounds like autism? I have autism and it sounds so similar to how I experience it. One single though, one single emotion - binary thinking based on true and false states. I have emotions but I have issues to express them or "release" them, it builds up until I either have breakdown or shuts down.

[@holden5478]

Kenshi deserves a novel

[@interestedincphpsqlmysql4222]

TBH.. I still don't understand lore. IMO killing you own creators, your own gods more depressing than anything else.. Because you killed only people capable understand you. I think its more than simple emotional pressure. But lore it self intentionally left blank I believe.

[@thomasquwack9503]

Er, what’s the confirmation that skeletons operate on binary computers?

[@_--Reaper--_]

2:56 If you're going to narrate your videos at least enunciate your words clearly and don't jumble your words because I have no idea what you've just said here

[@HeroInHisHead]

"Inhospitable acid soaked crater" and it wasnt an enunciation issue it was an audio recording issue I didn't notice until well into post production, so I didn't fix it. It's just the phrase "acid soaked" that got a little garbled and doesn't detract from anything really. Infact I think you are the only one who has noticed enough to even point it out

[@_--Reaper--_]

@@HeroInHisHead Isn't it nice that someone cares about your work enough to point out things that should potentially be improved?

[@HeroInHisHead]

@@_--Reaper--_ admittedly, not when you word it in such a way and then ask for praise for it, no. Although I have since gotten better equipment and better at editing so these things don't happen as much.

[@_--Reaper--_]

@@HeroInHisHead Ask for praise?

[@Bigmungandr]

​@@_--Reaper--_You were blunt and upfront - but you did not word your initial criticism in a way that felt respectful. When the creator responded with an explanation of the problem and pointed out that they would do better in the future, you said "Isn't it nice that someone (like me) cares enough to criticize you?" It seems like you were expecting him to say, "Yes, thank you!", when in reality what you said came off as condescending. So when he says, "No", your defense is to call into question whether you wanted praise or not. You clearly did. Next, you're going to disregard everything I've said as just some guy on the internet, follow up with something witty of your own or try to dismiss me entirely, and then it's gonna get ignored because I'm busy watching Kenshi lore.

[@marlow7376]

Calling tinfist mad and comparing him to the other skeletons for fighting slavers is a fucking insane take

[@HeroInHisHead]

He isn't insane for fighting slavers. He is insane because he is so obsessed with it he openly admits it causes more innocents to die than he saves and he is totally OK with it.

[@alissiarosadelaguatl6140]

Tinfist is actively hurting kenshi His cause is noble; his means isn't Remember this: The Road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions.

[@noctotainlowry9246]

Sorry but nah they dont deserve pity. I could forgive everything they did in the past but the fact every living skeleton ACTIVELY is choosing to not reveal Anything of the past is the most damming fact for me. And i dont just mean not telling the history. The fact they rember means they also rember untold tech or medicial advances from the first and second empire that could undoubtably improve the lives of every single living person of every race but they hide all of it and for that they get no pity. They not only caused the state of the world but are one of the main contributing factors that keeps it so fucked

[@uberwayz]

The Skeletons are abominations that must be purged from the world. The making of the skeletons was an act of evil, so as long as they exist, they are cursed to be afflicted with endless misery and darkness.

[@nathanlamberth7631]

Oh boo hoo. So they mentally die to avoid going insane. That is no different than the rest of us. I recommend they raise the reset skeletons as their children, and then in turn take the place of their own grandchildren as their children raise their parents a new. It’s no different than being human except the bodies are reused.

[@somedesertdude1308]

based boys