Finance Bill 2023 | Kenya’s big Conversation (Part 1)

Finance Bill 2023 | Kenya’s big Conversation (Part 1)

[@CHRISNGULE-qp4ye]

Ningekuwa na Pesa haki ningewapeleka out Hawa watangazaji wote.. well spoken , well trained, kujipanga nayo!!!❤❤. Thanks for helping Kenyas understand this gort ghost.

[@joeyseclipse3117]

Lete heshtegi tuchangishe💯💯

[@azaelsimeon9035]

This is only but abait because the criteria they are using

[@lathafoods]

Shut up falling horse

[@henryrawlings6529]

😅😅😅

[@valentinewaithira-hn2vb]

walai tena huyu mtu ambiwe maisha ni ngumu

[@Mike00254]

Venye hii finance bill inakuwa promoted inakaa AIM Global hahaha

[@kinooboy]

Whatever happens fail or pass we have matured in our democracy, this is awesome

[@johnosumba1980]

That is not a democracy.

[@harrisjnr6553]

If we impeach this executive then i can comfortably say we matured... Till then 😹 ni ndoto ✌🏾

[@blairreznick]

Royal Media Never Dissapoints

[@joeyseclipse3117]

Kwame summarized the housing sh*t like he was taking coffee 👏👏👏💯

[@bostongetuma8137]

for real

[@gabiesanchez8943]

Kwame is clueless and emotional. Kenya has left housing to the private sector for decades and the result has been proliferation of slums. Kwame has zero experience in financing huge projects unlike PS Hinga who has a background in banking and financing huge projects. Kwame is a desk economist who just reads economic papers and makes economic theories. Kwame has not produced or quoted any evidence of places where the housing fund has failed. PS Hinga has quoted studies of 10 countries where the housing fund has been implemented; both successful countries and unsuccessful countries. Let Kwame dispute the PS with facts and research studies, not with his gut feeling. Kwame is asking Kenyans to believe his gut feeling, and reject the bill.

[@joeyseclipse3117]

@@gabiesanchez8943 You know all this noise will dissipate if this bill rests somewhere in a cupboard till the economical tides rests to lessen the burden on the normal citizen. If it's true that the government wants its people to own houses then let them, government/investors do their bidding like in real estate then whoever not everyone nor mandatory but whoever wants to own an apartment somewhere get one, begin the payment procedures in whatever installments there are. The "Schemes" we've got or had in this country of ours has taught us big deal of information and knowledge without forgetting the government itself in matters pertaining refund to those families around SGR land blablabla. Watu si wajinga buana table things clearly not using other countries examples to make us reason with you, coz they're not Us and we ain't them never will be...

[@amosbarasa7384]

​@@gabiesanchez8943 Remember among the 10 studies PS Hinga provided among them were Singapore and Brazil. Singapore is slightly bigger than Nairobi City County, the levy was implemented when their income levels were high compared to Kenya right now. In Brazil, despite the housing project, the problem still exists.

[@gabiesanchez8943]

@@joeyseclipse3117 We have left housing to the public sector for decades, and they (housing investors) have demonstrated that they will only build decent housing for the wealthy 3% that have a monthly salary of 170k and above. The housing fund is meant to cure this problem. Government comes in when there are market imperfections in the housing market, such as proliferation of slums. In principle, most rational Kenyans agree that we have a problem of shortage of decent housing, and a shortage of job opportunities. I'm happy that we are only disagreeing on the methodology of solving these problems. We will eventually come to a consensus sooner or later.

[@antidote254]

when this bill is passed we should all take to the streets..ruto is selfish

[@key-ur5vz]

Yuh want us to live on subsidy?

[@geoffreyowenga3958]

Azimio will not take to the streets since we knew this idiot was bound to do exactly that. That is why we didn't vote for him😂😂

[@CHRISNGULE-qp4ye]

Amazing royal media a love all the watangazaji. Doing good job

[@TheKaysti]

Priorities and trust; these are the biggest burden this government has to deal with. Their actions since they took over in 2022 have betrayed these two issues. The manner in which they have conducted themselves on matters spending has left more doubt than confidence in the public!

[@sophiekitao4114]

CONGRATULATIONS KWAME AND BILLOW MADAM

[@katekavundu1459]

Good work,,, now we know something about the behind the financial bill

[@WinnieRuttoh]

I am soooo proud of Lulu! The one professional woman journalist for the longest time!

[@mcpaultv4028]

You only saw and be proud of lulu you're clueless of what Kenyans are talking about

[@CharlesfaneG]

Eric Omondi

[@alexsimiyu8582]

diversionary tactics to cover your namesake🙄

[@samikeerthi]

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[@samikeerthi]

​@@alexsimiyu8582llpppppplp😊plp😊ppppp😊plppplppppppppppppplppp

[@MohammedMohammed-uo5sk]

Royal media excellent 👌 job pliz keep kenyans alert coz we have our constitution coz no leaders are above it .😅😅😅

[@munez413]

Kwame has nailed it. The housing fund is not a priority. Lets deal with Unemployment first, lets deal with hunger and security concerns first. The housing fund can and should wait especially in such a financial crisis. Majority of Kenyans don't want it.

[@floraigokiterah1642]

Globally countries are facing the same issues and they have not closed “shop”

[@Zwak817]

Watu wa patie njembe tuede kazi, kwani kuna kazi government imeweka pahari 😮

[@DathanMD]

Kenyans reason with their buttocks. How do you address unemployment without creating job opportunities. This is what housing project is meant to do! Create job for Vijana in the construction industry.

[@tonyericksorangeboy1196]

@@DathanMD As if you reason with brains , have you perused the finance bill properly or you are only limiting it to the housing issue?

[@howardokiror9421]

In dealing with housing, employment will be created. The level of employment is immaterial, it's still employment.

[@edmondanyonaombaye3340]

Kuria cut off nicely, Journalists very organized and professional, Hinga just a Hinga, Kwame thank you for waking up this mediocre government

[@eshiyosalat7211]

Citizen is just different level…well trained journalists

[@ferdinardrono6275]

I keep watching citizen TV in my entire life,well planned and managed stages every given opportunity

[@gracemweti4868]

I keep watching citizen tv on your website so please 🙏 me on this as my new opportunity will not have much more!

[@fredwanjala1792]

Wonderful pairs of presenter,I love these guys.

[@jacquelineindia1087]

Kwame you are brilliant...

[@MosesMwachiroTU-BE-]

Please protect kwame,he is telling the truth 😂

[@lowk3y_KE]

The way that they cut out Moses Kuria BS was amazing

[@paulmwahe7678]

haha he was talking nonsense

[@rosylenekaari1495]

I was looking for this comment 😂😂

[@Muyumbui_Curtis]

That is what we want as a country. To cut these politicians out cause they talk nonsense all the time. Giving them attention drains us of our energy and imagination.

[@mainagatei6412]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mourice1669]

😂😂A Good comment

[@janetkiio8211]

Ruto angesema Hospitals, university each county ni sawa . lakini hii ya nyumba a big no no no,😢😢😢. imagine mbona aseme tupe shamba ajenge then after rent for 5years then the rest, after period of that time the house becomes yours and rent also. hii ya nyumba eti you contribute then you buy the same house 1.8 bedsiiter , 2.9million one bedroom and 4.8 m and above two bedrooms. why house why houses???? Ruto Wacha mchezo this will hunt you till 2027 and let's see you get vote, people have already become tired of you. Mr. President ( Ruto) unless you steal we will see come 2027.😢😢😢😢😢😮😮

[@bernardoloo2023]

Moses Kuria is the only wrong piece in this puzzle😂

[@stove7197]

Thank you Kwame!!

[@januarymutuku1853]

I love the Good work Citizen 💪 keep shinning....

[@bonfaceokoth1536]

I am just disturbed that the same man who promised our kids laptop is promising us houses and we are meant to believe houses are on the way, we never learn I say.

[@winnywin6988]

Only a fool will think this government has their best interest at heart

[@bobohk3655]

Ofcourse this was the best and biggest conversation .thumb high loyal media well trained journalist 🎉

[@anthonyinyanya213]

The 57year old guy nailed it. Watu wa boda hawawezi elewa chochote. Hao kudanganywa ni rahisi

[@josephogutu5723]

Layal media.? NO, it is royal media.

[@josephogutu5723]

Kwame Owino tell them ..this is a white lie aimed at woodwinking gullible Kenyans to fund the greed of our corrupt Gvt officials period.

[@shirokuriah]

If the Kenyan government is accountable for other given mandate such as healthcare, education we can trust them with housing. Let them first articulate their core mandate before taken on others. Already the government has scandals all over let them fix that before taken on additional work.

[@anthonyinyanya213]

When I look at withdrawal of Linda mama, HELB, Subsidies on food &Fuel and pesa Kwa wazee na Maisha Yameharibika, I can't be convinced on anything.

[@lilianmutheu7719]

This was really entertaining to watch.

[@therapconnect]

Feels good to know Lincoln Njogu that unique sound from Radio citizen😅

[@elijahogaya8837]

Stuff only Royal Media Services can offer. Brilliant journalism. Bravo.

[@solproduction254.]

Kwame is a big deal,he has knowledge on the matter 💯and I agree with his points 💯

[@MikeWere-ko7ee]

Good Lincoln,Ayub,LLulu,Rashid,JK&Trevor thumb s up

[@benzs255]

Napenda vile watangazaji wa lugha ya Kiswahili,,ongera kwa kuboresha lugha

[@selfieboychannel8338]

Ayub starting " is it slum upgrading or affordable house program"😅 wueh kubaya

[@priscillanjeri968]

Ruto... ask kibaki how he revived economy....stop. Taxing a nation to prosperity 😢

[@angelamaiyo2524]

Ask him how even you?

[@albertnyangoka6756]

Am very surprised how David Ochieng is a government representative instead of a representative of the people

[@johnmwakilili]

When you are elected on an odm or UDA ticket you put your party leader first or else....

[@albertnyangoka6756]

@@johnmwakilili put the people who elected you first, not even your party leader. Ochieng is simply a disgrace

[@Infinity74856]

David Ochieng has never been a representative of the people, & he never will. The guy is a representative of his own stomach.A real tumbocrat politician😅

[@joeyseclipse3117]

@@johnmwakilili One thing is for sure, if the higher ups aren't satisfied with your game you become a liability. No one wants that in their Resume...

[@user-rk6wu2gw1n]

Ochieng always think that he will be taller than his size...

[@financeforwardwithdaniel]

The intro from Jeff🔥...RMS is something else

[@brigidharrietmunayi8917]

Very good, by President Ruto. Who blocks somebody to also climb the ladder cannot come down after climbing. MPANDA NGAZI USHUKA.

[@edithwandolo4284]

Oh Kwame, wise one you are!!

[@edwinkuhora6645]

this Kwame guy needs state protection..very smart guy, if any kenyan has ears let them hear.

[@harunphilip5427]

Fantastic work RMS.

[@brejamotieno244]

RMS asante sana. Ayub Abdikadir thanks man.Erick Omondi our very own content creator submitting our struggles. Owino Kwame umewaramba😂

[@husseinadow8339]

Excellent work by our leading news media

[@gracemweti4868]

Best person to speak about what you are doing

[@jennyrhein3031]

Our country has Brilliant,smart & profound journalist 🏆❣️

[@joseskinyua4627]

Am left wondering how you guys planned 4 panels running simultaneously. Kudos royal media. The conversation was great

[@remmykasili2914]

Thanks Royal Media

[@sucrase]

Kwame Owino just told Kenyans what they want to hear.

[@charlesketer2367]

Well done

[@piusouma6387]

Kwame is the real deal❤

[@Charles-jy9mg]

Hinga, has the clear summary at the start of the conversation, well explained Sir, keep it up

[@kyaloNdeti]

Can we first build classrooms before houses, I personally patriotically will pay that additional 3% for classrooms, how can this government that cannot build classrooms builds housing?

[@davludi2612]

This jobs/tenders and supply sheared amongst kales trusts me watu wataliya kwa choo

[@kiprotichaviator3935]

Hii nguo ya Lulu imeweza❤

[@nuruhumphrey6273]

Kwame just summarized everything

[@georgeandhoney.]

Even after all this, Ruto is still covering the ears and moving forward...

[@anthonyinyanya213]

Why can't the government solve the problem of food. Why do they want our 3%

[@valentinewaithira-hn2vb]

the things is the president is working on less important issue feed the nation first the income is so low are many people are suffering out there and please make it clear

[@AMMOHL]

Kwame deconstructed Hinga completely

[@kamaugb5027]

Who will be the managers of these deductions? Is it a sacco or which bank will take care of the fund? Everybody knows we were taken for a ride wth hustler fund working like mshwari. Its as if its meant to swallow another institution. (Moi methodology.

[@user-hm3yc7wx8l]

Good ideologies citzen

[@lavenderawino1034]

Aki RMS mungu awabari juu ya mjadala mmeleta mnajali wananchi wa kenya

[@Gavinmiano]

Kwame is telling you what you need to hear

[@mcpaultv4028]

Moses Kuria alikua ametoka kwa choo akaanza kuhara maneno 😢😢😢😢😢 calling Wangas name like afool

[@calvinceorage4706]

KWAME that was great ...a true citizen

[@dorisflorenceokila6963]

To Moses kuria and Nyoro nyinyi ni kupora tu hamjui vile tuna umiya hapa chini haki Mungu atawa angamisha and you might not see the end results your leadership ni kama ya sauli munatumakiza

[@benmathenge]

First create mechanisms to fight corruption, grow industries, factories small businesses, agriculture, innovation, employment, etc then people will not have an issue with the bill. How do you tax without first creating opportunities to make money

[@jumabrando1181]

Kuria is just rude..This government is full of chestthumping hooligans

[@mosesmbadi4158]

This boda boda guy clearly does not understand what this bill is all about. There will never be a "watu kutoshanishwa" bs!

[@josephmwangingure3259]

Kwame needs to be protected at all cost

[@agcreatedit]

Kwame Needs to be protected with all cost 🤣🤣

[@blessingstown7063]

Wasee wa Bottom up😂😂😂mnaibiwa..walai saa hii weed ingekua ready for sell wajackoya walai you were right 😂😂😂😂chilling with house levy with kenya kwisha

[@priscillanjeri968]

Revolution loading 😢😢

[@johnsonmuturi4537]

l love your orgerzation @ Citizens

[@duncanchizizi6543]

This is way to hold to account those liars

[@user-jo6gs6mr2w]

Kuria, must you mention Homabay for you to convince kenyans.

[@felixmuthoka6104]

😂😂

[@nyamaieliud3637]

He has no other way to convince people

[@loicendulevenzuki5591]

Kwanini junet, sifuna na babu owino hawakuitwa hapa😂😂😂

[@brucemwangu]

They are considered anarchists they always set the government on fire

[@user-bw4tv5xe3u]

Moses kuria ni kelele tu😂😂😂

[@isaacmburu288]

May Jehovah bless you abundantly for showing love to your fellow Kenyens ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@zillahmalia4577]

The housing levy is not the only issue in that bill. Why are you focusing on it only

[@josephwakahiawakahia628]

Mimi nataka kuchangia kwa hiari ,i support the bill 💯 naiwe mpango kwa wale pia hawana payslip

[@kentjoz5337]

KWAAAMEEE.... damn man! You are a fucking GENIUSSSSSSS, Damn.😲😲

[@kithinjikaimenyi8402]

moses is seriously incompetent

[@prakelianent943]

The 2008 financial crisis began with cheap credit and lax lending standards that fueled a housing bubble. When the bubble burst, the banks were left holding trillions of dollars of worthless investments in subprime mortgages. The Great Recession that followed cost many their jobs, their savings, and their homes.

[@charlesnyagah7423]

There was a stock of housing units. Mortgage brokers were pushing to subprime clients. Investment bankers were packaging MBS. Credit default swaps in the derivatives. In Kenya our capital markets don't have the depth to trigger a bubble. The uptake of the stock of units will be by the middle income not the targeted low income person.

[@supreme3415]

Kwame🎉🎉🎉

[@davidmuturi4332]

Kwame there is a cult of ignorance in Kenya...

[@irenemwikali1675]

Mr Hinga needs to explain to me why I need to contribute to a unit that is in an urban area rather than save the money to build a house on my own land?

[@mcpaultv4028]

Huyu anaongea Nini Moses Chietha

[@teresiawachira1034]

Why don't this government make industrial manufacturing, people get employment, then the same people buy their own houses?

[@ruthieopiyo-RN]

Very true..and but their houses according to their needs and abilities

[@irungumg]

It’s smells like a con

[@ojwangbrian5286]

Awuoro Homabay😂😂

[@linewangui8997]

STAND STAND DON'T BE BLACK MAILED BY RUTO.... SHAKAHOLA DECEIVER. SWEET MOUTH FOR NOTHING.

[@ritahmutheumuia1604]

Ofcourse kwame should represent ndii but politics of rewarding mediocrity could never give him a chance in govt. you can’t talk to people about housing and they can’t feed themselves. What we having in this country is a crisis. We need short term interventions . Si story za abunuwasi.

[@priscillanjeri968]

Zakayo please toka uende Shakahola 👉👉👉👇👇

[@shantalonyango4067]

What about people retiring in one year. Why should they pay the levy and they aren't going to get the house.

[@ggke7802]

@Kuria is such a nuisance. Need soapy water and a tough thristled brush. Utoto nao?

[@jameskinungi2991]

Kwame said it all

[@maingigitau9014]

Great presentation on the finance bill menace. 1. Power belongs to the people 2. Flow of information is fundamental to the growth of a nation 🇰🇪 3. Good job Citizen TV AND Please have other government departments come and have conversations.

[@sammymiraka8938]

Hatukuli nyumba!