Drop the Arms into the SLOT

[@kerrodgraygolf]

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[@ktb3225]

This tip is outstanding! Lengthening the trail arm virtually eliminated my over the top move. This also added about 10 yards per club. Tried it on the range today & then played a round. Basically corrected my cut to slice swing. Thanks guys, well done.

[@geraldraybeck3388]

Superb tip Kerrod; this drop, with power and then rotation has definitely improved my ball striking!!! Best...

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Thank you! I’m thrilled to hear that the tip made such a positive impact on your ball striking.

[@VertexGolfAcademy]

I'm 37 and have been playing for 20 years and this is the best swing advice I've ever seen! Thank you so much!❤

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Wow! Thanks for your kind words 🙌

[@John-rn1uw]

Same here. This has fixed my issue of leading with chest/body.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

not really. bad advice

[@davidharrold9189]

Good one. Adam is a great instructor!

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Thanks! He is fantastic, I need to make some new videos with him.

[@fntsmk]

Subscribed to both Kerrod's and Adam's channels. Love their great golf instruction! Thanks much gents!

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Awesome thank you, mate!

[@jakeallen476]

Adam is a great communicator.

[@jeffcaminiti162]

Incredible important video here. Focus on where the arms go. Also love how Adam explained that there is a wrong way to shallow the club is huge. Don’t want to trade one problem for another. Well done gentleman!!👍

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Thank you, mate!!

[@haricsl]

Finally some common sense and correct golf instruction - none of this holding onto lag silly business . Plenty of lag even if you straighten right arm

[@alexfingerhut]

Straightening the right arm like this has nothing to do with lag. It will ruin your swing plane and make a correct delivery impossible. Find any tour player who has their right arm straight before shaft parallel (P6) in the down swing. They all still have significant bend in the right arm. Is the suggestion that they’re all doing it wrong?

[@haricsl]

@@alexfingerhut GEARS 3D motion analysis would beg to differ. Hand speed is at the fastest from top of the swing - only one way to do that and that’s by rapidly accelerating arms down. Rory has a pump drill which does exactly this. Anyway happy for you to have your opinion, I’m with these guys and quite a few other elite PGA instructors would say the same. Pictures can be deceiving so unless you’ve got a link to some 3D motion software like GEARS to back up your theory then I’ll go with the facts.

[@alexfingerhut]

@@haricsl everything you have stated here is a misinterpretation of facts. Yes, fast swingers produce hand speed earlier in the downswing. They don’t do so by dumping the angle in their right elbow without turning their body. Rory already has very little right elbow bend at the top, but he still doesn’t get it straight before P6. Drills are for feels, not reals. And even in that drill, he is straightening into his squared up delivery position. Also known as P6. Look at how he actually swings a club 2D or 3D

[@haricsl]

@@alexfingerhut i don’t recall saying the body stays static. If you are loaded correctly at the top (hips tilted correctly and the body has recentred) then the body will brace itself if you start straight right arm and releasing the angles - this movement actually helps bring arms down into the “slot” and back in front of the body. In reality you will get a bit of loading due to change in direction in transition but it is a great feel for most golfers. Get the arms back down into the slot and the left leg pressuring hard to the ground to drive left hip back up and around will allow you to free wheel club through impact. My original comment was more related to modern instruction talking about holding wrist lag or driving right elbow deep into your side which is complete nonsense). So yes, feel is not real but it’s a great drill to get the right sequence/timing. The video below illustrates the point I was making perfectly kzbin.infoVdYozCx7qcs?feature=share

[@John-rn1uw]

@@alexfingerhutnot just analytics proving it, tour players like Bryson say it. First thing is actually arms drop. Once he feels right hand around right pocket then body turns. Its so fast you can't tell that's what's happening? Feel vs real.

[@rhowe22]

Two great instructors that I follow regularly. It's good to see these guys getting together to provide their ideas. This was a tip that I was in need of. Thank you.

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Thank you, mate!

[@johnwoods8671]

Brilliant brilliant video 👏 This advice has been a game changer for me. Thanks so much guys 👍

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Happy to help! Thanks for your comment John 👍

[@tonypadovano8707]

solid advice here - I like lead arm straight more than lengthening the trail - but both will work.

[@onesipwonder]

This is great! Too many mixed information out there. Lower body leads downswing, but the hands and arms need to be in the right place right?

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Bingo 👍

[@user_1664]

I use this swing method , basically just bring the lead arm down and through and let the club follow , ive gone from 130 8 irons to 150 without any real effort and no manipulation , ive been doing this since spring and its stood the test of time that most fixes don’t . Im currently trying to get the same feel into my driver with mixed results , i am struggling mostly with very high face shots and if i get the ball more forward i can fade or pull a bit more than i like , its getting better and i will keep plugging .👍

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Thanks for sharing. Keep it up! 🙌

[@John-rn1uw]

Why isn't this taught more? This fixed my swing. Plenty of golf lessons and no pro mentioned this ever. Shot 1 over through 9 holes.

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Im glad you found it helpful. Thanks for sharing! 🙌

[@thienduc4694]

thanks so much. I wonder if this also work with driver. thanks

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Happy to help! It absolutely works with a driver.

[@thienduc4694]

@@kerrodgraygolf this drill helps me to create more lag in my iron swing, and improve my launch angle. thanks alot

[@Haitchpeasauce]

I discovered this movement accidentally at the range one time, but decided not to use it because it might be considered “casting”, though they were some of the purest ball strikes I’ve had. Nobody talks about this movement in the swing sequence. This video is a great resource, thank you.

[@kerrodgraygolf]

It's amazing how sometimes the best discoveries happen by accident. If it’s working, it’s worth exploring further! Glad the video helped clarify things for you.

[@davidoug22]

Love it this is what I have been doing. Bryony Say's similar drop and turn.. Rf blades to !! Nice

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Love to hear it! Thanks for the comment 👍

[@hkb1467]

Nice video- it’s the principles that matter, not to be robotic 😊

[@windyrun7979]

This is a very interesting video in that it seems to suggest the wrist set is where the power is stored until release and that the right arm is extended earlier in the downswing than I've seen suggested elsewhere especially as it relates to the right elbow being tucked next to body at start of transition. The funny thing is if you look at Kerrod's swing at the beginning he looks like he is keeping his right elbow tucked and cocked until release at the ball.

[@jayboek2854]

Yep. Spot on. Bad video and teaching to say the least. The arms don't go straight down. Not until a split .01 seconds before the impact.

[@josephshuster4904]

Thanks,,,,,your tip helped me,,,,,

[@kerrodgraygolf]

I'm glad you found it helpful. Thanks for the comment! 👍

[@matt_sallie]

Great video Kerrod

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Glad you enjoyed! Thank you!

[@patrickcahill5292]

I constantly hook my irons ? Hopefully this method helps

[@ST-xg3gy]

Good stuff!

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Thank you, mate!

[@philipchan1856]

Can you do dropping of the club when you are on a downward or upward slope?

[@kerrodgraygolf]

I have this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5m0aaWBhNyEe7c

[@andrew.derevo]

I’m a bit confused, it looks for me like opposite what Ben Hogan shows as his “first move” can you please clarify this?🙏❤️

[@VasuBalakrishnan]

Adam! You are a rockstar

[@ANtA585]

This is great content, thank you for sharing!

[@kerrodgraygolf]

You're welcome!!

[@jeffp2001]

Been working on this to avoid my over the top move really hard to make smoothly.. I also drop the back foot back a lot to help irons not bad as club gets longer drive much harder any feels or tip to smooth it out?

[@kerrodgraygolf]

You could try working on your weight transfer.

[@dogloverjb6873]

love the word unloaded instead of released.

[@JC-xg5ve]

So you want to maintain the wrist angle coming down so you don't get early extension when you're extending/lengthening that right/trail arm on the downswing correct?

[@kerrodgraygolf]

That's correct 👍

[@Golf101inc]

Tried this at the range today and was really surprised by my divots and flight. I typically hit a low lighted ball but was absolutely flushing it high and long…well occasionally. I did notice I was much more likely to hit it fat and also to the right (too much open club face I think)…not for sure about the fat ones though. Maybe I was coming in too steep.

[@dj-flights7376]

You were probably focused on the arm movement and didn't get your weight forward early in the down swing. You should even be starting the weight shift forward at the very top of backswing. This move works if the weight is forward and you keep the hands moving through impact.

[@chrisbrinkman9569]

Shingle creek in Orlando?

[@garyvale8347]

I actually practice this swing " feeling " of dropping my driver behind me during my driver tee shots and it has helped me reduce my big slices.....however , whenever I try to gain some extra distance and swing my driver a bit faster, my slice comes right back...any suggestions?....thanks

[@kerrodgraygolf]

When you try to increase your swing speed, it's common for mechanics to break down, leading to a return of the slice. Here are some suggestions to help maintain control while adding distance: Focus on a smooth tempo instead of just swinging harder. Rushing can lead to poor mechanics, causing the clubface to open at impact. A slightly stronger grip can help prevent the face from opening and reduce slices. Just be cautious not to overdo it, as it can affect your feel. Generate power from your legs and core rather than just your arms. This will help maintain a more controlled swing while increasing distance.

[@garyvale8347]

@@kerrodgraygolf thank you very much for taking time to respond......I will give these a try.......

[@DosLobos]

Love AB! ❤

[@Iankelly2969]

My miss is getting to active w the lower body and over rotating thru the shot. This is the cure for me.. saw J.Rose doing it and now this video. Funny how cures appear if you’re looking for it.

[@kerrodgraygolf]

I'm glad you were recommended my video and it was able to help you out!

[@danielphang4221]

Tour players have a slightly bent trail elbow right before impact. Doesn’t this cause early extension of the arms??

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Tour players maintain a slightly bent trail elbow just before impact, which helps preserve lag and generate power without causing early extension of the arms. This bent position allows them to keep the clubface square through impact and ensures a powerful, controlled release. The arms naturally extend after impact, which prevents early extension and maintains consistent ball striking.

[@cscoetzee]

@@kerrodgraygolf Yes but you are contradicting yourself then.

[@MPT458]

the way i imagine it is that the slot is actually impact. If you turn your hips and body from the slot it's pretty darn close to impact already

[@thatguy0344]

Is this a feel drill or is it real?

[@kerrodgraygolf]

This is a feel drill 👍

[@RJ_S_182]

i have hit about 14k balls this year... and all that did for me is make me worse... My problem is, i go to the range, and blast balls down the range for 2 hours.... I dont pause, look whats happening, try to make corrections etc, i just try and feel different things until i find it, once i found it, i hit the ball so good but when i go back tomorrow, its gone again... Really frustrated at this stage... i love golf, but these last few weeks im feeling really depressed about where i am after all the effort i have put in...

[@kerrodgraygolf]

That sounds incredibly frustrating-I can feel your passion for the game in how much time and effort you've put in. It seems like the main issue might not be effort but how you're practicing. Start with a clear intention for each session (e.g., working on contact or ball flight). After every few shots, pause to reflect: What worked? What didn’t? Improvement in golf is more about effective practice than the sheer number of balls hit. Hang in there 🙌

[@mrsandhu19801]

Welcome to golf haha. It happens to most of us! You need to send you golf swing in to analyse it. It could be simple as something as setup or tension. Get someone to look at it

[@briancianchetti3282]

The problem I run into is when I pull the hands down it causes the clubhead to follow and become steep

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Try slowing the drill down and then building the speed up over time. Otherwise, I have just released a video about creating space in the downswing which helps avoid a steep swing.

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

Let me explain. There is two types. One using hands and another using slots. John daly marker is his hands. Same with all weird swing people. They are handsy. Now perfect swing combine both hands and slot. You get symmetry

[@kerrodgraygolf]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 🙌

[@thebestshow2]

you are not going to fully straight trail arm before impact!

[@calculatedmethodology3494]

It's a "feel" drill.

[@thomasthetrain3102]

Pretty sure what they explained and what he actually did are totally different. In slow motion there is no separate arm motion to drop the club and straighten the right arm. It’s all one motion with the shoulder/chest turn. When instructors teach it this way it makes it extremely difficult to replicate.

[@kerrodgraygolf]

I segment and exaggerate the drop during the demonstration, but the golf swing shouldn't be segmented so it becomes blended.

[@Bateman.s]

Just because u don’t understand the concept it doesn’t mean it’s not working. It’s a common drill, Justine Rose and Rory doing it and a lot of Pros teaching it. It’s a completely common way to go to “shallow” the club and helped me a lot more then these fancy elbow to bellybuttons moves etc. 😂

[@stewarttrickett3033]

Over exaggerating?

[@jordangourley3955]

Hate that phrase. The “slot” is created by the arms, how can one drop their arms into it?

[@nastybadger-tn4kl]

We know Impact position. its same for all good golf shots. Now Start of down swing? vary. like jim furyk. But there is something going on , We want to get into slot without losing power. That means we wants wrist cocked. So dropping arms is stupid teaching. There is lots of thing going on down swing. Lot and lot. Golf teachers are suckers . They focus on one thing and miss the rest

[@alexfingerhut]

This is a wildly inaccurate description of how this works. Watch any good player’s swing. The trail elbow lowers but does not straighten until much closer to impact. Correct lower body mechanics are needed to bring the club to the right position before right arm extension occurs naturally from the centrifugal force of the turn and release of the club

[@andybecker5001]

AMG has measured this with attached 3d sensors on tour players. They are immediately lowering and straightening right arm in downswing

[@windyrun7979]

@@andybecker5001 Kerrod looks like he is keeping right elbow bent through to last parallel before impact in his swing at beginning of video.

[@jayboek2854]

​@@windyrun7979pretty spot on. His elbow is bent until he is about to hit the ball. The arms don't go straight down.

[@Cali510Livin]

@@andybecker5001you beat me to the reply!! Lol. AMG is the best.. 100 percent agree.

[@jeffcaminiti162]

Not correct, what they are saying is spot on, before you try to discredit what they are saying you need to take a much deeper dive into physics and biomechanics