Fyi i changed the springs and put skiffs in that knife. Sorry, i assume everyone sees my videos 🤣. The springs are weaker stock. Action is about the same stock. Edit: you did see the video. I use Skiffs because i get better side to side stability, not really for action. I also just hate steel bearings. I wonder if it had a burnt edge. But at 60-63 (what they list) you wont see all the benefits of Magnacut. Hopefully they bump it up to 63-64 in the future
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
lol I think many people who watch me also watch you. I missed that you did the springs too, thanks. Ceramic definitely has advantages. Not all about feel, totally get that. Thanks again!
@johnsanford35965 ай бұрын
The thing is, they're saying they have a range. Most knife makers will give a 2, sometimes 3 point range. A 4 point range tells me that they are A) advertising the higher range based on the 1 in a 1,000 knives being at the top and/or B) their process control sucks that they don't dial it in tighter.
@chriswoollet3 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan of Kershaws and the Leek is my all time favorite. I think this will be my next knife.
@edc4fun3 ай бұрын
Cool 👍🏽
@Mr_Obvious6 ай бұрын
I like the looks, but it's a bit smaller than I usually carry. Good to see Kershaw stepping up their US made line though!
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Agreed I’m rooting for USA companies to be more competitive like Spyderco who is by far ahead in that game imo.
@MindOfMilton6 ай бұрын
So cool that you got to check one out. Great video Dennis!
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
I appreciate you brother. Thank you!
@DZNTZАй бұрын
I don’t mind a small blade (around 3”) at all, but I like to see a handle at 4” or better. A lot of love going around for this model, but I think it’s a pass for me based on that.
@AnotherWasted14 ай бұрын
Appreciated the info on your sharpening experiences/angles and such
@edc4fun4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@BrandonMeyer1641Ай бұрын
I’ve handled two bel airs so far. The first one I bought as a gift and the second I bought for myself because I liked it so much. Now they are on sale pretty regularly. It shouldn’t be hard to find one around 125 which I think is a good price. Both the bel airs I bought came with no loctite and I bought them more than a month apart. They also came with blade play because the pivots were loose. It’s a quick fix and once you tighten the pivot everything locks up like a vault. Just something I think they did a 180 on because of the reviews. I personally don’t mind because I am indeed a lefty. This made dealing with the pocket clip easier. Overall good knife. Even if the magnacut is on the soft side the bel air makes up for it with a blade that claps very easily in fixed angle systems and is very easy to sharpen. I feel the performance is better than benchmade s30v so when compared to the bugout it beats it on that front as well.
@edc4funАй бұрын
Good points, thanks!
@daver65646 ай бұрын
I bought this knife and have really been enjoying it. It’s nice in the hand and the pocket. It came nice and sharp so hopefully it’ll be awhile before I have to sharpen.
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
I definitely like it. It’s a step in the right direction. I’m rooting for kershaw and other American companies 🇺🇸 thanks for stopping by.
@SigogglinJack6 ай бұрын
I like the blade shape and deep carry clip. I’ve had a Cryo and leek and was put off Kershaw after breaking Speedsafe springs. Thanks for the unbiased review.
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. The leek was my first kershaw back in the day. Sadly I lost it.. worked its way out of my pocket when I was working. I had no idea till it was gone.
@MiguelEDC6 ай бұрын
Interesting take a very well explained brother. Thank you for the amazing upload! 💯🙌🏼
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks brother 👊🏽
@TBEDC6 ай бұрын
Cool..like the blade..cool video
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks rich! The blade shape is cool and it’s crazy thin
@KeithKacanekАй бұрын
They must have updated their heat treat, as their website now states 62-64 HRC
@edc4funАй бұрын
@@KeithKacanek cool thanks. I wonder if anyone has actually verified that and if there was a difference with the first batch or not
@KeithKacanekАй бұрын
@@edc4fun Yes, I’d like to know as well, as mine has just arrived. I can only hope that (if they now do 62-64) mine is not from an older batch of the 60-63 HRC or anything. Got it through Blade HQ
@wgkincheloe24586 ай бұрын
Wow, crazy to me that it loses the edge so quickly. I'm guessing they are running heat treat way too low, especially after watching tests on Hogue Dekas and several other brands. I'll be steering clear of this for a while; maybe, like the Deka, they'll fix the heat treat and run the HRC up a bit on future runs. Thanks!
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. Thanks for stopping by.
@ryangriffith15006 ай бұрын
You carry a Spyderco most right? I have a buddy who just made a new attachment for a few poplar knives. It's metal not printed. It's a mix between karambit ring and the ultimate deep carry. He also makes actual karambit rings too that replaces the back spacer of your knife. That's what i got my wife and was going to send a pic. Hopefully will get that done soon. Depends on pain. Like the video but idk how much i like the bel though...
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Yeah spydie is my go too. That’s cool that they’re metal and not printed. How does your wife like it?
@ryangriffith15006 ай бұрын
@@edc4fun one is printed ones metal. I own the printed and can tell you it's pretty good. Just found out about the metal deep carry. I guess it's for people who don't like pocket clips but want to keep the blade upright. I'll send clip
@KnifeLife1166 ай бұрын
Great review Fam i didn’t think it was so small and definitely wish the jimping went further like the rubato that woulda been cool but I do like it. I recently switched the deep carry on my Towser k to abt that distance but it’s a bigger knife I agree it’s a lil too much for this knife lol love that it comes in magnacut but it dulled way too fast🤦🏼♂️🤙🏻🔥🔪
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
It’s not bad, and I love that is made in USA. Just being real about what else is out there for the money.
@singingtoad6 ай бұрын
Great review of the Bel-Air, it's a pretty cool design. I'm sorry to hear your experience with MagnaCut has been poor. However, I have had great success with my Spyderco Native 5 LW in MagnaCut and it has performed extremely well; granted Spyderco usually gets their heat treats right--not all brands do the same. 👍Anyway, thanks for giving us your take on it and I hope you have better experiences with other brands using Magnacut steel in the future. Take care and Cheers!
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Next time I handle magnacut it will be from Spyderco. Thank you!
@UncommonEDC6 ай бұрын
I like the looks on this one, too bad about the edge performance but still may pick this one up if my local shop gets one in I can handle. Thanks for sharing!
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TBEDC6 ай бұрын
Awww what a cute tip
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
So precious
@DogLegDoug6 ай бұрын
I love the way this one looks, but looks are subjective. Nice thorough review and I kind of miss the days we knew we would have to sharpen or touch up our knife. The super steels can be great but with a price tag and sometimes it's not worth it. Great review Dennis!
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks Doug. You know Cruwear is my favorite, but I do like 154 a lot too.
@DogLegDoug6 ай бұрын
@@edc4fun I've never tried cruwear, but I'm assuming it's from Spyderco, and imo they must do a great job on the heat treat because it just seems like edges work better from them, but I am not even close to an expert. I love 154, but I have no choice because I have so much of it haha, but it's easy for a novice sharpener like me to put a good edge on it.
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
@@DogLegDoug yeah there’s a lot spyderco does really well, especially heat treat.
@FreedomFrog3336 ай бұрын
Oh awesome! A review on it.
@ajshoots57723 ай бұрын
Great review. Mine came with very close to 17 degree bevels, I stayed at 17 and took it to 1500 grit and stropped. Chipped quick and badly. Stayed with 17 and after 3 sharpenings going to the same 1500 grit and stropped it is getting better. Like the knife. Scales are ok, but the magnacut is nothing like my spyderco native 5 in magnacut.
@edc4fun3 ай бұрын
Thank you. That’s very interesting, thanks for letting me know. I need to get some spyderco magnacut.
@ajshoots57723 ай бұрын
To be fair, this same type of chipping has occurred on a number of recent knives I purchased from a variety of brands and multiple different steels. Usually goes away after a sharpening or 2. Just a universal guess that it has more to do with how the factory sharpens more so than heat treat issues?
@edc4fun3 ай бұрын
@@ajshoots5772 i could see that.. could be one, the other or both.
@KINGACE96 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@poppacooter6 ай бұрын
i've heard some knives need a couple of sharpenings because some companies can over heat the blade on the first sharpening trying to save time and money .
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Right. Thanks for watching 🍻
@rustyknifelover44636 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@TimsSchoolOfFish6 ай бұрын
Good review. There’s certainly a lot of hype around a lot steels… Marketing 101. Good stuff as always brother 👊🏻
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Yup. But there is only one savior lol. Thanks brother 👊🏽
@TimsSchoolOfFish6 ай бұрын
@@edc4fun You’re welcome!
@jeremyspaulding77356 ай бұрын
Overall it doesn't sound to bad. Great video 👍
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Right. Thanks 🙏🏽
@addictedtoblades26 ай бұрын
Great job brother ❤
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Thanks brother 🙏🏽
@JacobGoolsby-UFCАй бұрын
I disagree. this is way better than the bug out!! 10x better!!
@edc4funАй бұрын
I never said it was better than the bugout. I would take this over the bugout.
@FreedomFrog3336 ай бұрын
Off the bat it reminds me of the hogue Deka with a different blade shape
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Right and aluminum scales
@FreedomFrog3336 ай бұрын
In my experience on any given knife magnacut has slightly less edge retention than 20cv. It's still good but nothing crazy. I don't know why they changed the steel on a lot of Hogue's knives to magnacut from 20cv. I very much prefer 20cv from my experience based on those knives themselves. I tried the magnacut Deka and using it no more than I have the 20cv version I noticed it dulled faster than other steels. It also is no easier for me to shapen than other good steels. It seems to really shine in corrosion resistance. I think magnacut just got hyped up like m390 did. M390 isn't the best steel ever it's very comparable with many other high end steels it was just as good but a lot more expensive because of the hype. Now you can get pretty inexpensive knives with m390 and frankly I prefer m390 to magnacut.
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Seems to be the case. I have been pretty happy with 20cv and lc200n. I’d like to try some magnacut from spyderco. That would settle it for me.
@FreedomFrog3336 ай бұрын
@@edc4funtrue that. I do trust Hogue to have the best of or close to it so that settled it for me. Lc200n is honestly probably my favorite steel. I can't say that with certainty because I have only experienced it with spydercos but it has all of the qualities I want in a steel and doesn't sacrifice in any way that I can tell.
@rhugh026 ай бұрын
It is a little small for me, but I bought it anyway. My first magnacut blade waiting for it to arrive hopefully not a disappointment.
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
It’s on the smaller side but it’s not bad to handle. Hopefully the steel holds up for you.
@ckjallday4 ай бұрын
Little vanilla lol
@edc4fun4 ай бұрын
dark chocolate is my jam, like 90% cacao lol
@slayer76825 ай бұрын
how would you compare vs a Bugout? also, I got some omega springs for my bugouts, will those fit on this?
@edc4fun5 ай бұрын
I don’t own a bugout but I’ve handled it before. They’re very similar. Not sure if the springs fit, but I did forget to mention this one does have aftermarket springs from kunwu (or kizer, I forget)
@slayer76825 ай бұрын
@@edc4fun n I will have to check those springs out. The Omega springs are such a pain in the ass putting on, I have issues dealing with any axis locks. I have a Bel Air coming in the mail, and I have a few Bugouts, a few people have been comparing. So, will see. nice review I subbed
@DarkKnight3696 ай бұрын
Just bought one and it came missing an omega spring. The lock bar action felt weak and unsafe.
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
That’s crazy. I assume you reached out to them and they’re going to make it right?
@DarkKnight3696 ай бұрын
@@edc4fun Their customer service seems to be as bad as their quality control. I reached out to FB chat at the same time I emailed. The FB person first told me to return it where I bought it. I told him just to send me the missing spring. He sent me to a replacement part request form and told me to put spring on the description. The warranty email came back and send me to the form and told me to request torsion bar. Conflicting info and overly complicated forms for their mess ups.
@n_conway75716 ай бұрын
I would take this kershaw over anything Benchmade is making. Now if only Kai could put some of this energy into ZT…
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
I like the direction they’re going.
@johnsanford35965 ай бұрын
Sometimes neutral is like Switzerland. Multiple languages, crazy ass skiing and buckets of money and character. Other times neutral is like apartment shade white in eggshell. BORING. This knife's neutral is the latter. It makes a base model Toyota Corolla seem exciting. Like the Corolla, I'm sure it's fantastically FUNCTIONAL, with all the vim and vigor of soft tofu. Fortunately for my avoidance record, this knife is smaller than I like, so I didn't jump on it. No regrets to cope with. I do hope it finds a home in many, many other pockets though.
@edc4fun5 ай бұрын
That sums it up perfectly 😂👏🏽👏🏽🍻
@ckjallday4 ай бұрын
lol
@edc4fun4 ай бұрын
😆
@TBEDC6 ай бұрын
Cardboard it horrible for knives!! So is copper!! Cool microscope Bill Nye😂
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m a nerd 🤓 nothing is harder on knives than sausage 🤣
@TBEDC6 ай бұрын
@@edc4fun hahaha, buttered sausage?
@johnmackey31646 ай бұрын
I cant get mine to take an edge. Maybe I need to make a bigger burr? Frustrating!
@edc4fun6 ай бұрын
This one responded better to lower grit for me. What are you using to sharpen?