I don't necessarily think there needed to be some breach of contract. I'm sure KJ wasn't happy with Prodigy (not many players are). And if he's willing to take a pay cut for a better overall opportunity, and Prodigy can free up one of their biggest contracts, it becomes a win/win with no real "drama"
@makeitrainepoker63553 ай бұрын
Prodigy is circling the drain...
@boosted06303 ай бұрын
Agree
@hyzervalleydiscgolf3 ай бұрын
100%
@stephenwalsh89313 ай бұрын
Humphrey leaving next?😮
@martins4583 ай бұрын
@@stephenwalsh8931isaac
@swordmeister933 ай бұрын
I disagree. They’ve consistently been the best team at discovering young talent, they’re just not savvy enough to keep them. But legitimately a who’s who of disc golf greats have cycled through that team since their inception. They’ll just continue to find new players and ride them out until there’s a dispute.
@joepg16083 ай бұрын
Prodigy has been shady since day one.
@bubbawatson18523 ай бұрын
You hit bullseye, some shady dudes, and act like poop don't stink.
@evan11487ful3 ай бұрын
Prodigy sales have to be terrible
@cup_and_cone3 ай бұрын
I feel like their baskets are what is keeping them afloat. Every new course around here in the South uses T2 baskets...
@melvinrivera953 ай бұрын
I knew kevin wasnt happy since like 3 years ago. He has way too much talent. Wish u the best kev!
@AaronFortin3 ай бұрын
Would love to see performance stats in these breakdowns in the future [dgpt standings, recent performances, cashing/per/tourny, etc..]
@CharlesJWillard3 ай бұрын
There's a pretty long list of players who left Prodigy: Catrina Allen, Gannon Buhr, Paige Pierce, Lykke Lorentzen, Alden Harris and now, Kevin Jones. Houston, we have a problem.
@jonraypyle3 ай бұрын
Only way Prodigy lets this happen is they are broke and it’s better for them to not pay him.
@paulfritsch6723 ай бұрын
How could a relationship be going well when the player you decided to pay ends up not being a top player anymore. I never see his name in contention anymore. If I was a owner I would do the same thing
@bsmithhammer3 ай бұрын
And he goes to Innova?!? DIdn't see that one coming.
@tomahawktimmydiscgolf603 ай бұрын
Innova. They probably offered him a lot of money and he couldn't pass it up
@elderberrysnackshack66553 ай бұрын
Kevin Jones is still my favorite pro and always will be. Been playing for 19 years. Been a fan of the tour for 6. Wanna see my boy back on top. Hopefully a new bag and major life change(engagement) helps him find his jam. When he's winning... everyone feels it. Will never stop rooting for Kevin.
@Cristopher19763 ай бұрын
Just say it oit loud. Prodigy sucks. They are a trash company. It all started when they stole the company from it's founder in my opinion.
@aftertheburial4203 ай бұрын
My guess is Innova.
@stephenwalsh89313 ай бұрын
Humphrey leaving next?😮
@billhayes46823 ай бұрын
KJ has to be the biggest disappointment last couple years. So much talent. Seems to have old Simon attitude. More interested in making crazy throws
@markapuan3 ай бұрын
And music
@youknow123410003 ай бұрын
I Rob is gonna be next… those baskets been doing him dirty lol
@joepg16083 ай бұрын
I think Kevin had to sign an NDA
@ericjepson37653 ай бұрын
I love Willy Schu. I'll never forget the 1st time I saw him (and Feldberg) live at the 2011 KY st. Doubles @ Idlewild. That being said, I don't see myself ever throwing a Prodigy disc. When they came out in 2013 it felt kindof like the LIV exodus from the PGA a few years ago. Even our own Paul Ulibarri left Innova to join Prodigy. Obviously it's a much different situation but it still had that feeling of the players abandoning what got them there. It's a different atmosphere 11 years later with so many more established manufacturers and guys switching all the time but back then it kind of put a bad taste in my mouth. (Plus the disc names are boring and awful...)
@ryansuter44243 ай бұрын
Based on production and media contact I’m thinking a smaller/ less popular company like DGA or Mint. Thought Space and Infinite seems to fit his personality more.
@ulrichvonstomp60313 ай бұрын
As a Boomer who has played disc golf since I was knee high to a grasshopper [I was bangin' Frisbees off of trees as good ole Steady Ed was building the 1st professional courses] it's somewhat frustrating to see the inevitable commercialization and politics that have come with the rapid advance of the sport in the last few years. I mean, I get it. but as with anything there will always be differing opinions on how things should progress. What's important is how we all navigate through the growth while still enjoying such a great sport! I, for one, am not a fan of the DGN organization as far as the video quality and the non linear editing of their highlight content. JoMez was Way better! It sucks that they sold out!
@BennyStacks3 ай бұрын
not enough credit given to Kevin. He is a solid player. my guess is we will see him on top of a leaderboard again sometime soon
@BeebLskeebL3 ай бұрын
What credit should he receive for performing so poorly for so long
@cup_and_cone3 ай бұрын
Unlikely. He just got engaged. Once the baby comes family life comes first and DG sees a backseat.
@brooksy30693 ай бұрын
its not that kj wasn't happy, it was prob prodigy not wanting to pay a lot anymore because kevin tanked bad, if you have a bad 12 months, they'll let you go. kevin is worth an incentive based contract, where any top 10 is a pay out match. any major win is a double payout match. pay kevin 65k salary with incentives
@grahambaskin3 ай бұрын
I think Prodigy was probably happy for him to go, they chose him over Chris, and he's only gotten worse since then. I doubt he was making them that much money.
@U.S.AeroForceDiscGolf3 ай бұрын
Prodigy has some decent plastic and a few decent players. Luke and Cale has kept prodigy relevant so no one cares if KJ bails....he a player not a winner....kinda like Uli
@grahambaskin3 ай бұрын
Crazy that Prodigy didn't say a single thing about him leaving on their instagram.
@StuG-pr9tf3 ай бұрын
so Kevin can just go play tournaments now and throw any combination of disc he wants right?
@KhufuhK3 ай бұрын
I imagine his other deal is already set and he just hasn't announced it yet.
@Rupertsantos2443 ай бұрын
KJ to MVP.
@518ashtray3 ай бұрын
That would be so sick lol I don’t need an excuse to buy more mvp plastic though
@kilo24863 ай бұрын
Idk about that man. Use that potential capital to pick up a young player that has potential. There will be more Gannon Burhs and Anthony barellas coming into the sport in the coming years.
@deftonesplayer4203 ай бұрын
I think his doing what the rest of the team that left has done, going to DiscMania
@markapuan3 ай бұрын
Everybody has their thing! Simon had Simon lines till he got injured. Now he breaks them out occasionally. Eagle has crazy distance shot both forehand and backhanded, till he tried to 360 a forehand. Now, we will never know if it will be the same. KJ USA has grenades and crazy hyzer flips. Also has music! It seems like the last few years, he has put more intentions and focus into his music. Not saying that is a bad thing. Just my thoughts, focus on one that pays your bills, and is sponsoring you. Again, this is from outside looking in. KJ is an awesome guy. Met him before LVC a few yrs ago and finished the round with him, and it was like a friend i have known forever.
@chrisblockd3 ай бұрын
if Kevin was on a more liked company for people to bag, he would of stayed bc he could move plastic - similar to cough cough brodie smith. if brodie was on prodigy they’d cut him too lmao prodigy plastic just doesn’t move
@vJackaRoo3 ай бұрын
KJ gonna sign with Lone Star? As he slides off the bottom of the rankings …
@MrSTAYUP333 ай бұрын
Can Brodie leave his contract early ?
@tofron23 ай бұрын
No his contract is gonna leave him, he sucks
@nehpetsttocsnosirrag62273 ай бұрын
Drama is for babies 👶
@jamiejoss73403 ай бұрын
Uli referred to cap space twice, is this just a joke or are manufactures bound by a salary cap?
@josephkebbekus57803 ай бұрын
He's estimating how much money companies have available for sponsoring players based off of how much money they're making overall. There isn't a formal cap at all, just what a given company can afford
@Abcd124-g2v3 ай бұрын
Yup
@larsmohr28663 ай бұрын
Maybe Prodigy is loosing money on him and bought him out to get rid of the contract
@peterteague61843 ай бұрын
He should be MVP, flip a crave
@JazzInATinCan3 ай бұрын
Then maye the Octane would finally get tome time on JomezPro
@spencermckee59253 ай бұрын
Who is the company they refer to that has a lot of money and no players?
@jaredlee20733 ай бұрын
Innova is who they were alluding to
@tonitoivanen23153 ай бұрын
KJ going back to Prodiscus. 🤔😎
@BeebLskeebL3 ай бұрын
Hope he goes to DGA
@scottwolf39733 ай бұрын
Y’all post about Brodie’s “Paige comments” on the KJ story cut? Uh, ya know, she deserves any jabs he feels like making. Oh boo hoo Paige -?- naw, she 100% knew she was stirring drama while saying Brodie was too “dramatic”. I think it’s kind of funny. She was being snarky, bitchy, - sorry, whatever. I have never been Brodie’s biggest fan but y’all he hasn’t been going on and on about, and he could if he wants to. Now, to be fair, Brodie does talk a lot about how we need to be more serious as a sport, so y’all might have some point, but why on the Kevin Jones story cut?
@TheGreatestJuJu3 ай бұрын
Brodie needs to drop his alluding to Paige’s comments all the time. It’s gotten very annoying. Brush the chip off your shoulder.
@benbreault61753 ай бұрын
Agreed, I don't think the majority sides with Paige. I understand the saltiness, but don't let her live rent free in your head Brodie!
@matthewbertram43123 ай бұрын
For a guy who likes to present an, "I couldn't care less what you think about me," persona, he sure lets things dig in and stay there.
@johndonair3 ай бұрын
He's needed to drop things that occur to/around him much quicker since the Twitch days. Pretty obnoxious, but it's better I guess than pure passive aggression?
@volcomx_x46193 ай бұрын
Incredible, one mention and all that you thought was paige. 13 minutes of KJ speculation and all you got was her. 👏👏
@matthewbertram43123 ай бұрын
@@volcomx_x4619 "We are the speculation podcast" was pretty obvious what he was referring to.
@ZM4C3 ай бұрын
I would drop money on KJ shrykes
@zxyxxyz3 ай бұрын
uli def knew information and semi leaked it l0l
@pandawarriah3 ай бұрын
what happened to brodies face?
@vJackaRoo3 ай бұрын
I just want him to leave the hat on
@specialed22303 ай бұрын
Not Booty Sweat Jones!
@michaelyahner66953 ай бұрын
t$a?
@IvanBerroa3 ай бұрын
prodigy's marketing is kinda trash. just listen to their ad about the new fractal line discs. it's calming and chaotic? who writes this oxymoronesque stuff? Glad he's leaving. Here's to hoping he goes to team Innova or MVP!
@colehobson14353 ай бұрын
Lonestar
@bradleycramer6123 ай бұрын
What about dismania. It wasn't that long ago that the crush boys went to MVP so maybe there's a void there that discmania is trying to fill
@spencermckee59253 ай бұрын
I think discmania is pretty well covered with buhr, antilla and Klein
@Gerbs9643 ай бұрын
KJ is washed.
@atra24503 ай бұрын
First comment?
@StuG-pr9tf3 ай бұрын
we could make a special video just about that if you like...??? it's too bad that being the 1st to comment on any video is not monetized?? Lol's