Reacting to Paige Pierce's Attack On Tour Life: Brodie Smith and Uli Respond!

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[@HooksetTv]

After some thought and considering both sides of the argument, Ive come to the conclusion that I dont care.

[@rwknut1]

Kid stuff. B.S. is all about the click bait. Remember now why I don't typically watch this.

[@PepperoniTony358]

It’s Literal gossip like her gums literally said.

[@romius9391]

Brodie is 100% correct, he doesnt do or say anything more extreme or gossipy than anyone else.... haters just hate that he doesnt sit of the fence and has an actual F'ing opinion about topics.......

[@MikeMuldoon-wl8ht]

Found Brodie's burner

[@81GTUN4]

@@MikeMuldoon-wl8htfound Paige’s burner

[@todward3295]

@@MikeMuldoon-wl8htyah Brodie is just realistic.

[@playdiscgolf1546]

He definitely understands the algorithm with social media and “stirring the pot” but he’s saying a lot of things people are thinking

[@justjay3750]

we aren't allowed to have an opinion, you haven't learned this yet? there are states in America where saying "if you have a d*ck, I don't believe you are a women" is actual hate speech and arrestable.

[@ryandeininger822]

Paul talking about how their interviews create new fans of players is 100% spot on. I always *liked* AB and enjoyed watching him play. But it wasn't until his interview on Tour Life that I finally got to see a different side to his personality and became a *FAN*. (Great timing too, because it's been a great season to be an AB fan).

[@devonwatt2194]

Completely agree. His point is proven in this same episode even. Holyn’s interview was great, she seemed chill and personable and was cracking jokes as well with the guys. She definitely gained my fandom.

[@chriskoppenaal5503]

Well said

[@Dav963]

Well said. One of the reason I subscribed to AB. And Uli is right, people are soft.

[@Blacklisted87927]

I agree. If I’m being honest I kinda thought he was an “F” boy. But after the pod I heard how real he was. And when he talked about how intimidating it was playing with Ricky during chess open I was empatheticz

[@devonwatt2194]

@@Blacklisted87927 that’s definitely understandable lol judging AB solely on how he looks, he definitely comes off as a fuckboy 🤣

[@joshuabielawski4098]

Uli’s balanced perspectives are so refreshing! Finding people who look at both sides is becoming increasingly difficult to find.

[@timmoyer445]

Brodies not affraid take stances, right or wrong. He gets tons of respect from me for that.

[@jonhull9579]

And TBH his opinions feel like they haven't been thought out.

[@judasblewit]

​@@jonhull9579So he would change his opinion if he thought more about it?

[@CRAFTCREWDG]

What also sucks is how she just dismisses the Staggered Stance podcast as well. What a pompous answer. Just nonchalantly saying that she has no idea what the name was but she was on the podcast.

[@reasonmattersmost]

She didn't dismiss it. She did not know that was the new name.

[@CRAFTCREWDG]

@@reasonmattersmost how do you not know the name of a podcast you have been invited on and you accept. In my mind, that’s dismissing.

[@larryfaust3907]

She also said she didn't know what Brodie and Uli's podcast name was either... now that was some straight up BS

[@antoniokehoe2363]

​@@reasonmattersmost Lol you don't know the name but you're watching and commenting.... Makes sense. If you think that of Brodie, why are you watching? Paige was just in the wrong and it's ok. I have nothing against Paige, but in this instance she was acting in a disingenuous manner. She's knows the name the of podcast, she was a guest and had nothing to say then. These guys help the game and help give disc golfers a platform to speak on the game and give them more exposure. Find a time when Brodie has said anything negative about Paige as a person.... It's ok to talk about sports and critique play or whatever the case may be but the discussions regarding the tour are always about the tour and play. As Brodie said, if the sport is ever to grow these things will be talked about because that is what gets people talking about the game right, wrong, or indifferent

[@reasonmattersmost]

@@antoniokehoe2363 I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and more than a few chances. With Brodie I keep checking back because he knows how to keep himself in the spotlight and I like Uli. But every time I check in he is doing shit like this. So ...guess I will stay unsubscribed! But thanks for being chill and just offering your view. I disagree but that is OK! Take it easy.

[@ToddsDiscGolf]

PP said she’d be top 40 in MPO 😂 the girl is delusional

[@darreno9874]

When Paige was winning one of her 5 world championships I think it's possible she could have made the MPO top 40.

[@smokeyone]

​@darreno9874 in her prime she might be able to finish an event in top 40 but the whole year I doubt it

[@shawnhoelzle8121]

PP did play in an OPEN division a in her prime. I think it was world's. But she didn't have a very good finish place. If I remember correctly. Feel free to correct me.

[@baronvonnembles]

@@darreno9874 Absolutely not. Wouldn't happen. She was winning because she was that much better than the FPO field not because she was close to the MPO field.

[@baronvonnembles]

@@smokeyone Theoretically possible if it was a really weak MPO event but even then highly unlikely. As a frame of reference there are over 400 MPO players with ratings over 1000. PP peak rating was I think 995. Kristen is currently exactly 1000 and she likewise wouldn't finish in the Top 40 of any sort of any major tournament. An A Tier in West Springfield sure but not at a top level event.

[@ISHTHEBOSS]

😂 actually agree with the boys. Incredibly soft from Paige. Imagine if the sport was big, she’d drown in tears.

[@evanwoosterDG]

Brodie is in a very small percentile of the world that is actually genuine and speaks his mind. We need more of that in the world plain and simple. Not sure how people can get offended by that. That’s the problem with a lot of people today.

[@orionbeach764]

But by that logic Brodie shouldn't have a negative opinion of Paige for expressing an opinion about the Tour Life podcast.

[@Dav963]

@@orionbeach764he should by the logic she texted him congratulations and talking S about him at the same time. Thats a 2 faced move.

[@orionbeach764]

@@Dav963 publicly calling out people is Brodie's thing, he just can't take any heat coming back his way. Not wanting to be on a pod and congratulating someone on a personal event totally different parts of their lives. Not even comparable.

[@discfan6829]

I’m a big fan of this podcast. Not a fan of PP. that entitlement is very off putting.

[@donfreeman1703]

love this podcast.... but wouldn't the entitlement portion actually be on the podcast expecting the player to join them?

[@tyleradelman3644]

Brodie is very entitled.

[@elrod1240]

what entitlement ???

[@baronvonnembles]

@@donfreeman1703 There is plenty of entitlement to go around.

[@brooksy3069]

it's all respect to brodie, he is open to hearing criticism, hearing hate from players, and addressing it appropriately. paige is kind of a head case, it's all good, on to the next

[@mondaysinthecosmos]

When has Brodie ever been open to criticism and not the one handing it out?? Brodie and his bro army can't take what they dish out. Calling Paige a head case in defense of brodie while he sits out of the tour and hasn't cashed all season, is wild dicksucking.

[@michaelking1059]

Brodie doesn't line up with her progressive politics. That's the root of the problem.

[@danday9697]

That is 100% it

[@micahreynolds3450]

X 1000%

[@jamesonklein9363]

You nailed it.

[@alexandrosmakridakis9096]

What'd he do, not weigh in on Palestine because he's clearly a Middle Eastern scholar?

[@jamesonklein9363]

@@alexandrosmakridakis9096 Clearly this is in reference to NR. You can go back under your rock now

[@reggin2076]

Ive lost all respect for Paige, between her saying she lost her passion to win when she was in a drought and couldnt play decent golf, and her saying she'd be top 40 in MPO. And now this what a joke.

[@playdiscgolf1546]

The great thing about disc golf is the rating system, and you can’t ignore the fact that her rating says she wouldn’t cash in the majority of MPO events….

[@96stealth]

@@playdiscgolf1546Her ratings are based off of playing the women’s tees, correct? So wouldn’t her rating be worse than playing the MPO tees? I honestly don’t know. I know she played n a couple MPO events like 10 yrs ago and didn’t do well. Competition is even harder now. With or without a forehand she’s not doing anything against men.

[@baronvonnembles]

@@96stealth The rating is a gauge of ability. PP's rating is currently 965 so she is the same level of ability as a male player rated 965. It doesn't matter which tees they throw from. The reason there are "ladies' tees" is simply a recognition that women have less strength and stamina then men and thus need a less challenging course. It's the same as females playing 2 of 3 sets at Wimbledon while the men play 3 of 5.

[@96stealth]

@@baronvonnembles That has to be flawed though. If the men are playing a 420’ par 3 and the women play the same hole at 310’. How do you get an accurate rating to compare the 2? You can’t. I guarantee that if women had to play the men’s tees, their ratings would drop substantially.

[@96stealth]

@@baronvonnembles I just looked up how they figure the rating and I’m correct. It’s based on scratch scoring average (ssa). If a course sets that number at 50 strokes and a player shoots 50 then that’s a 1000 rated round. So just like I said. The women’s scores would suffer greatly if they had to play the men’s tees. There’s no way around that. You simply can’t compare their ratings because they are based on different layouts. The men still score better than the women playing a much harder layout. Like I forget which course and hole it was, but the women players were freaking out that 1 chick got a birdie which was the only birdie on that hole for the entire tournament. So it was a par 4 for the women and a par 3 for the men at the same distance. Meanwhile the men were getting pars (which would be a birdie for woman) at like a 90% rate.

[@JoshGreene-vl2un]

I just subscribed. Sometimes throwing shade has an opposite effect lol

[@brooksy3069]

the dislike from paige is coming from foundation thoughts on natalie ryan, that is what happened. something was said on some foundation content on natalie and fpo fairness, and paige is not in anymore

[@goodnerarts1206]

I always felt she was in the camp of not liking Brodie because he presents as a stereotypical Alpha Chad Bro Cis-White Male. Several of the females seem to have an unreasonable dislike of him, without giving him a chance. You may be right though. It might be all because of the NR situation. She has to answer to all her lesbian friends. It explains why she has taken a stance, but can't really articulate her reasoning.

[@ThugLifeBitches1]

@@goodnerarts1206it’s honestly sad to see women stand up for NR, she represents the degradation of their entire sport in numerous ways. How is it beneficial to women to have a legitimate male playing on their tour? Whats even worse is by accepting this idea we’ve now essentially reduced men and women down to testosterone and estrogen and that’s not even close to what it is to be male or female. To me that shows her gullibility and lack of any kind of critical thinking, with those things in mind her opinions and views on anything outside of throwing a disc is irrelevant.

[@budtron183]

Hard to grow the sport when you have people supporting that circus act.

[@playdiscgolf1546]

@@goodnerarts1206yeah, masculinity is shat on all the time. Even though masculinity builds the courses she plays on and masculinity builds the roads she drives on to get there. I’m tired of these “tolerant” people crapping on strong men….

[@goodnerarts1206]

@@playdiscgolf1546 👏👏

[@clintsawyer7702]

Spot on. I used to like Paige, watched a lot of her early stuff, how her dad got her into the sport, how it was the bonding experience, he supported her in everything, And then a couple years ago it was just like FU to everyone, and then ripping him for the grave sin of pushing her to do her best and supporting her literally her entire life, And that's before we get into the nonsense of supporting Ryan. It more seems like a case of her going on the offensive of anyone who doesn't 100% support her lifestyle, and has nothing to do with disc golf at all.

[@roberthoeg1964]

After all these years of experience! She is not very humble. Even her remarks after winning last week, that's not how a champion reacts.

[@clintsawyer7702]

@@roberthoeg1964 nope. Not the same person she was

[@cup_and_cone]

Sadly social politics become these people's whole lives and it ruins them.

[@ryanmussell739]

That is very sad.

[@Matt-dj3tc]

It’s pride month. That’s why she didn’t come on. Because of brodies stance on Ryan and Paige’s orientation. That’s why all of a sudden she separated herself from the show

[@Barbariandisks]

Paige isn't the only lesbian, Elle Hansen is also, however Elle doesn't throw it in ppls faces

[@jaxvaughan8168]

People are soft! Said it well uli

[@Meta-Drew]

Including brodie who now hates Terry for not jumping to his defense

[@SickWorldPerspective]

Uli... the voice of reason.

[@haydenfrederiksen2005]

Do you think Paige realized how good for this podcast that comment was? 😂😂😂😂

[@larryshort5414]

A few PP highlights from the last couple years. In a pre-tournament interview she proclaimed herself to be the greatest women's disc golfer of all time, no humility. She signed up for a local A tier to play with a trans athlete after the rest of the division dropped in protest. After the 2022 OTB open we got a lecture on how the commentators are supposed to treat the players. After the 2022 Champions cup, a childless lesbian lectured us on how to raise children and she threw her dad under the bus. There are bad people in this world, Paige Pierce is one of them.

[@zbeecher1636]

Lmao dam

[@dennismoniz7384]

i honestly agree with this. just over all the years, i've seen plenty enough indicators from her behavior that i would not like being around her in the least.

[@danday9697]

Just look at her interviews when kristin is there and when she isn't. When she isn't. It's all about play hard and wanting to win. Kristin is there and destroys her, and she says she doesn't care if she plays good or win. She clearly gets jealous of people's success. She's jealous that brodie is more popular, just like she's jealous of Kristin for being better and more popular

[@ToutatisCnabetius]

You forgot when she got the cops called on her at a country club. Thought she was above the rules, those were for the commoners not PP. Then she tried to flaunt her wealth thinking Disc Golf 'rich' would scare the country club. I'd hate to have been the clerk that had to deal with those gums that day.

[@JR-kw3be]

Don’t know if any of that is true but I can definitely believe it

[@zachSS199]

I am so sick and tired of hearing all this backlash and bs toward Brodie! He works hard and from what I can tell he’s a good dude. Had the privilege of a quick meet and signature after a long tournament at the 2022 Portland open. And being exhausted and possibly some kind of frustration with that days putts, he was very kind.

[@kieranmoyle8508]

Paige vs Brodie Passion only round to settle this

[@jeffburkhart789]

Love that both Paul and Brodie are real and honest. Don’t always agree with them but love the authenticity. Very disappointed in Paige, who I love, because she did come across as soft and bitter and I expected better. People a disagree with you and not be evil and need to be canceled. Very sad.

[@GABRIELGIESEL]

100% support Brodie he is right people want to hear the interesting topics and have hard conversations. With that said ULI is 100% correct on his take with Terry and other cohost. I wouldn’t take his reaction as not supportive of you Brody. Don’t jump to conclusions. Let Terry clarrify his position don’t assume he is against you Brodie. If I was in Terry’s position I would feel really awkward and caught off guard by how unprofessional rude Paige’s comment was. I would probably responded similarly to how he did. Internally thinking “ wow that didn’t go like I thought it would” Let Paige do what she will do and her following is going to suffer when she makes comments like that. Our family for one does not want our young girls to see Paige as an example of professionalism in disc golf. I want my daughter to see a woman like Kristen who doesn’t trash others on the public stage. ULI is right don’t take how terry reacted as a reflection on you. Keep bringing the content boys

[@Solami987]

Yea agree, I think Terry was trying to dig deeper on something he was surprised to hear, and trying to defend Brodie in that situation would have been awkward

[@reasonmattersmost]

Pretty sure you and your family don't want Paige to have an opinion for reasons you are not willing to admit. I will help you out. Paige would get far less attention and negativity directed her way if she was not gay. Deny it if you want but it all comes down to double standards.

[@GABRIELGIESEL]

@@reasonmattersmost if you’re replying to me personally I can tell you a year ago I was encouraging my daughters to look to Paige as a great roll model until I followed her on at DesMoines challenge vs. Kristen T. Paige was honestly demonstrating behavior I thought to be petty, and kinda immature. Her attitude and behaviors were not professional and seemed to me to be very much like a spoiled brat. It could have been an off day for her but it left a bad taste in my mouth. But i would recommend you not to make judgements of others heart intents without knowing them. It would seem to be hypocritical to your very own point!

[@reasonmattersmost]

@@GABRIELGIESEL No not to you directly. Thank you for clarifying though. There is a lot of covert sexism and homophobia in the comments section and in my opinion how Brodie approaches what he talks about and how he talks about it.

[@cade_olson]

I can see why someone might not like brodie a ton, but hes a hard working professional of multiple sports and has good vision when it comes to making them grow. You can tell hes really trying to build the sport up in everything he does. So im w him on this.

[@Grovonator]

After the DGPT event in Nashville was temporarily suspended due to threats, Natalie Ryan is quoted saying "This threat is a perfect example of what happens when extreme views are tolerated in a community". Ironically, a biological male competing against biological women (in a sport) is literally an "extreme view that shouldn't be tolerated in a community."

[@NorCalDiscGolf]

Ok here’s the deal. I openly have never supported Brody Smith. People said why not. This is why I don’t. He’s a providential golf burnout that decided he can’t compete and make money playing golf. So he went to something he can do. He didn’t come to Disc Golf because he loves the sport he did it as a money grab. Clearly look at who he started out using. He befriended Paul Mcbeth and the foundation guys after the acquired Supreme Flight. Then Paul Mcbeth realized what I already did was he’s a phonie. He stoped going on tour, didn’t win anything and after 2 years said he doesn’t enjoy the game anymore. Brody is good at one thing only and that’s running his mouth. He speculates, runs his mouth and tries to create negative energy. He’s a liar. Paige is correct and so many others are two. He’s also ignorant. In this podcast he is so ignorant on Terry Millers podcast. Learn before you speak sir. Smashbox has been around for over 10 years and Terry has busted his ass while this premadonna thinks his opinion matters. The look at me and look at me. It’s you Brodie it’s you. You are the look at me player. Paul Ulibarri is great and shouldn’t be working with Brodie he’s bad for the sport and I will not support people who take advantage of the game or use the game for their own selfishness.

[@FoundationPodcasts]

“Learn before you speak” that’s ironic

[@mondaysinthecosmos]

​@@FoundationPodcastscan't take any criticism while weekly gives it out. The hypocrisy and irony is ALL YOU BROTHER.

[@erictriplett33]

This seems strange to me. That seemed like a pretty good interview when she came on last year. And I haven;t heard Brodie say anything mean or disrespectful to Paige. Not sure why she's being that upset.

[@ryandeininger822]

Me thinks it comes down to politics, plain and simple.

[@Zipoqs]

​@ryandeininger822 facts. PP is very woke and brodie is very not lol. PP, although I'm a fan, is one to out and shame the ones she feels share views that are separate from hers.

[@jamesonklein9363]

Paige also thinks men can be women so we have to take her opinions with a bucket load of salt

[@danday9697]

​@@ryandeininger822agree 100%

[@nateyad8139]

Nothing to see here. Just another LGBT supporter who isn't the center of attention anymore.

[@MountaindewM]

I will say Brodie's personality is not for everyone. He seems a bit loud at times but he has opinions and doesn't sit on the fence on topics. Brodie believes in FPO fairness and has never once said a bad thing about Natalie Ryan or any other trans athlete. My biggest issue is the hate that topic brings. You now see it with Paige talking shit about Brodie because he doesn't agree with her on this issue. It's just sad that there are some who don't go about things like Brodie and just have an opinion with reasons for those opinions and that is all. There are those who just spew hate on both sides and it's disgusting. We don't build disc golf up with hate, we just don't. Paige wants to be an ambassador of disc golf but she has shown herself to be really shitty at that. To essentially tell people to unsubscribe to a channel that is doing great things for tons of MPO and FPO players is a horrible thing to do. What has she done in the last year to help these players? Brodie has always stood by allowing anyone to come on the podcast and talk to him about these issues if they want. He is giving a platform to both sides even though he has stated which side he is on. Players like Paige Pierce and Maria Oliva have shown their true colors when he offers them a platform. Brodie even stated on the podcast that he'd have no issue having Paul McBeth on the podcast except they'd have to talk about their issues if he did since that is what people would want. He is telling things how they are and not beating around the bush about things. Even though he isn't friends with McBeth anymore, he has still had unbiased opinion about him from what I have seen.

[@WHATTHEFxIxGxO]

This is only going to make the pod bigger. Good job boys! Keep up the good work and interviews.

[@lintottish]

*PP said she'd be top-40 among men?* There are literally at least 1000 males who would beat her on longer throwing courses.

[@anthonydombovy1339]

Not just a longer course, any course at all

[@davereloader8837]

@@anthonydombovy1339 Seriously. Homies just bringing their putters.

[@reggin2076]

Paul and AB did a luna only challenge on the FPO layout at Portland Open, Paul shot 10 under AB shot 11 under Paige's best round 9 under. She would never cash in mpo.

[@EricSmith-od4fx]

Tattar is way better than PP and she was asked the exact same question. Her response was I'd be happy to be in the top 100 !!!

[@playdiscgolf1546]

I’m a nobody am1 guy that occasionally plays local MPO and my rating is close

[@joehuntsinger1994]

Paige is so wrong on her tour life take.and has caused enough drama over the Ryan crap in the FPO.

[@brooksy3069]

this is a good look for discraft have open air grievances, instead of corporate shutting all this down, they let it air out, love it, good for the brand actually

[@austinmoser5056]

She says that their show is Dramatic, but what's more dramatic then literally avoiding 2 individual peoples texts messages, including someone that you call a good friend, just so that you don't have to go on a podcast that you don't like. She at least could have messaged back and just been like "hey, I'm sorry, but I'm not really a fan of your podcast and don't want to come one. Thanks for the offer though". But she acted like a child instead and went behind their backs. Lost a lot of respect for Paige after this

[@andrewwright1738]

Wait, who's Paige Pierce?

[@codylabrecque5446]

Five Time Worlds champion, FPO superstar, Paige Pierce

[@Indiocean]

Derrrrrrrp, newby

[@judasblewit]

She used to be good at disc golf.

[@77nizzova53]

​@@judasblewitI do believe she just won a tournament!!!!

[@JR-kw3be]

Superstar from several years ago

[@BigJuice77]

Brodie is fired up and I love it. He's got a point. I ONLY listen to Foundation and Tour Life BECAUSE of the drama. If I want this weeks pro tour results regurgitated to me with no other interesting takes or topics I'd turn on Jomez and turn off the monitor. Give me the big questions and big opinions.

[@HARwinsOUTagain]

💯💯💯

[@johndevito4271]

Who cares if Paige doesn't like you Brodie. It's hilarious you had to break down anything on the Internet. You both have different views and are completely different types of people. Did she throw shade, yes. Did she pause first and hesitant to even comment, yes. She didn't say anything wrong lol. She doesn't care about the podcast. Okay cool. Not a big deal. Brodie seems a tad sensitive here. So worked up over a tiny comment.

[@Indiocean]

He just stirring the pot for responses. #ratings

[@mondaysinthecosmos]

The Brodie Bro army can't take what they dish out. It's hilarious how hypocritical these clowns are.

[@Theredrockretard]

She suggested to the viewers, "unsubscribe". That was just what a typical Looney lefty would say. Don't like that someone has a different opinion? Well then wokies, lets try to have them fired or canceled! If you can't see that, then it is a pretty safe bet that you are of her same woke ignorant emasculated pride mindset. I think Brody should have fought fire with fire. You lefties hate when you get pushback.. You just go running screaming for help acting like a victim. (which, surely you are) Sorry lil fella, Men should only compete against other men and Love ISN'T Love.

[@lttb_dogs1.32]

IMO - Brodie missed the point on several levels - but none are egregious. First, and I am certainly no Terry Miller fan, but I think their reaction to the comment was appropriate. I'm not saying 'defense' isn't necessarily deserved, but think through the cause & effect - any sort of 'defensive response' - even if he was genuinely feeling it - would merely have continued an uncomfortable and degrading conversation. It could only have made things worse. Terry changed the subject quickly - which is the only thing he can do to 'defend' Brodie here - because people are there to listen to what Paige has to say and that has a ton more strength than what Terry says there and continuing the conversation only gets worse for Brodie. Second - Drama/Gossip - Yeah, suck it up Brodie, the dictionary definition of "Drama" is a cute attempt, but you know what she's saying. "Are we still cool with Drew Gibson after his tweet?", "Drew says as much, if ont more stupid stuff than I do", "Do I tweet a lot of stuff that I think will get people riled up, yeah, 1000%"... you know damned well this stuff isn't "news". YES BRODIE - you are arguably the KING of drama, put your big boy pants on and OWN IT. In fact, I would suggest that your drama playing against Uli's moderation is maybe the biggest factor that makes your Podcast work. Its a good combination - but it's not everybody's proverbial 'cup of tea', and Paige indicated that thi is exactly the case for her. **SIDE NOTE (that isn't AT ALL on the side) - Paige did not say "Unsubscribe", she said "do not subscribe". I got the full impression that she was assuming an "I" at the beginning of that sentence, but still, in every way possible, that whole comment was in poor taste and I expect she knew that as soon as it came out of her mouth.** Third - Assuming there was "something that happened between May 6 and now" that prompted Paige's comments probably needs a bit more thinking. Paige congradulating you and your wife on May 6 means nothing more than that she's happy for you and your wife - regardless of anything else in the world - and you are reading too much into what that comment says about your relationship with Paige on that date, or about your relationship with Paige at all. The post deserved congradulations and she gave them... that's it. She didn't also say "and by the way, I think Brodie is the bee's knees today". She also didn't say "I hate Brodie" on Smashbox. She said she thinks there's too much drama and gossip on the podcast, and she doesn't subscribe. Its time to grow some skin and get over that feeling, because different people have different tastes and if you're gonna 'be public', you need to expect that not all feedback will feel like flowers tickling your nutsack. Two things I love about Paige Pierce: 1) She is very supportive, and is particularly supportive and defensive of the FPO field - and her leadership in this regard has been very powerful both for female players and for the sport as a whole. (This, BTW, is something I can say about Terry Miller as well). 2) She speaks her mind with very little filter. This second item got ahead of her a bit during that interview and I expect she has some regrets about the words she used. I don't think it means she hates Brodie or wants to start some feud. She indicated that she doesn't like or subsribe to the podcast and she answered when asked why, and again, I expect she has some remorse about how that went. As for her comment about "I don't think Brodie even watches FPO", probably some similar sentiment there, but let's face it - she's not wrong. That's ok, just own it. The FPO field is doing some really impressive stuff and from a "TV Value" perspective, most of the time it is at least as exciting (often more) than MPO. There's lots of reasons for that - some of which has to do with DGN just having too much distration in the MPO field to present a good product - but if you get to know those players and personalities, and watch some "Live Coverage" (Jomez is great to find out "what happened,in that round of the tournament" but Live coverage gives a much deeper perspective into "what's happening in Disc Golf" because they have a lot more time to fill. Watching the final round of Jomez coverage is like merely skimming the cliff notes before doing a book report. "I don't think Brodie even watches FPO"... Accept the premise and either own it, or make efforts to improve - but don't act like you "did the work" because you watched the last round of Jomez. Bottom line here - Dude,... Brodie... grow some thicker skin and stop assuming everybody "thinks something about you" because of relatively unrelated stuff. Learn to just change the subject and move past it. That is the negative type of drama and gossip some people might get irritated by. That is the difference between a podcast about disc golf and a podcast about Brodie Smith that occasionally talks about disc golf.

[@andrewingram2520]

I agree with you fully but learn how to spell congratulations 😂

[@mondaysinthecosmos]

AMEN.

[@Janiix89]

lol Brodie- you should also understand that terry would have Paige’s over yours any day of the week- they go way back together so there’s that - shouldn’t be a shocker how he acted

[@arikhanneman4272]

Without understanding the situation in its entirety and just focusing on comments made I love Uli’s stance. I like Brodie standing up for himself but dont like pulling out the dictionary bs, or the showing of some random trolls profile picture because of the comment. Most people understand what was implied by Paige about drama (the negative kind) and in my mind the few things mentioned above are those types of things. I haven’t watched enough of this podcast or Paige to really have a definitive opinion but will continue to watch as there are a lot of great topics that do indeed let us understand more about discgolf and the pros. I really enjoy getting an inside look at what challenges pro disc golfers face to be successful.

[@jamesonklein9363]

Interesting how Paige went out of her way to bash Brodie and then you have people here saying how he’s wrong to respond.

[@reasonmattersmost]

Interesting how she responded to a question with an honest answer and then moved on. But Brodie has kept the hype train alive up till now. When Brodie can speak brashly about anything and everything and get a pass but Paige is seen as bashing him and she is at fault. That is called petty and also hypocritical.

[@jamesonklein9363]

@@reasonmattersmost “not subscribed” yeah definitely not petty at all

[@jamesonklein9363]

@@reasonmattersmostalso you’re just wrong. She wasn’t responding to a question when she said “definitely didn’t go on blah blah”.

[@reasonmattersmost]

@@jamesonklein9363 I mean if you want to call that petty fine. But why defend Brodie for being mega petty here? Seems like a double standard to me. The frat boy gets celebrated for being noisy and blunt but the woman is just a little critical and she is in the wrong. Come on.

[@jamesonklein9363]

@@reasonmattersmost ah now I see what’s going on here. Go ride off on your white horse buddy

[@MegaFlorest]

I think she just meant "(I) do not subscribe". Which is fine...but I think its weird for someone who professes to love disc golf. Sports gossip is fun, especially for our little niche sport. I bring my putter around in my kids stroller, because I'll absently fiddle with my grip, in the grocery store or walking around the zoo.....I love disc golf and will consume any kind of content if its disc golf related.

[@erickyoung8331]

Yeah, but it's different when you are listening to gossip about others vs. it being about you. Fans love to tear down PP, and I totally understand not wanting to participate in that environment. It's the business of sports podcasts, but she's not required to like it.

[@MegaFlorest]

@@erickyoung8331 that's fair.

[@danday9697]

If you just don't subscribe. You would not go out of your way to bring it up when nobody asked.

[@hillsdalemc]

She was on a sports talk show when she said this.

[@justbrowsing5279]

Please. Is brodie actually trying to push back against the idea that he is pure drama click bait? Acting hurt because Terry didn't refute her claims is silly. It's almost like he's in denial that his entire business model is click bait drama.

[@FoundationPodcasts]

What are examples of click bait?

[@Dassinn]

Best disc golf podcast by far. Keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@betold22]

I popped in because of the "DRAMA!! 😂

[@parplusfour]

You guys are doing just fine, please don’t get too pressed when someone is upset about it. She’s clearly quite fragile and you guys shouldn’t change who you are to accommodate that. She has a right to not listen but to publicly announce her disliking is extremely hypocritical imo.

[@mondaysinthecosmos]

THIS.

[@dartgeek326]

Brodie, since I am not consumed with listening to podcasts I was hoping when I saw the word “attack” I was hoping to hear what happened or was said that had her feeling that way. A waste of 24 minutes for me. Another observation, Uli is very much restrained versus your sensationalistic approach makes for an ‘interesting’ podcast. Lastly, the podcast PP was on didn’t tell me where you stand with them, it tells me they didn’t prepare very well and should have been able to handle it in a way that didn’t make them look like idiots, at least to me.

[@rickybrooks5067]

I love y’all podcast keep it up

[@ctisb1]

Brody the only thing for you to do is stop responding to trolls. They just want to try to get a response from someone famous. Ignore them

[@reasonmattersmost]

Brodie is a troll. He makes disc golf worse.

[@_TMac_13_916_]

Why are you here then? ​@@reasonmattersmost

[@danday9697]

I'm all about responding to them. Call them out lol

[@FizzyP]

@@reasonmattersmost He definitely makes disc golf better. I'm not particularly a Brodie fan. He's just a guy who does decent commentary. Worse since when? I used to watch "clash" DVDs... I promise. It's better now.

[@digital0785]

​@@reasonmattersmostSooooo you're the guy with the gym photo huh?

[@bobmahannah905]

Well said paul, way to keep integrity on the positive side, devils advocate is always tough to play and you do it well

[@Zipoqs]

Brodie always catches a lot of flack. Gotta be hard being the literal most popular person in our sport. Salute to you Brodie

[@Grannyknockers]

That man’s name is Simon Lizotte

[@Zipoqs]

@@Grannyknockers brodie has 1M + followers. Simon may be the most famous strictly disc golfer, but brodie has probably everyone combined beaten

[@ThugLifeBitches1]

⁠@@Zipoqswhere exactly do you pull this 1 million number from? He doesn’t have 1 million followers on instagram or X, seems like that number was pulled out of thin air. He is involved in content more frequently than Simon as they do different types of content, for what they both do I would say they are respectively at the top in each category but to compare is not really achievable accurately

[@todward3295]

@@Zipoqsno change lol Brodie is cool dude, Simon Lizotte also has a European fandom your forgetting about

[@bisk1407]

@@Zipoqsold followers from like 10 years ago, his influence is lower than a lot of pros.😊

[@zkhhungo9970]

Paige was the greatest women's player of all time and her whole legacy was erased by one woman in a matter of a few years, she is clearly embittered and unhappy and it doesn't have shit to do with Brodie. If Brodie was really being honest he would have said that Paige being top 40 in MPO is completely delusional. We can see her historic score from the women's tees and even if she was allowed to throw from the women's tees and the men threw from the MPO tees she wouldn't score well enough to cash at any event. On top of that her and Missy better eke out any wins they can while Kristin is injured cause when she gets back its a wrap.

[@dkschrute]

Brodie says he cant have McBeth on and not talk about "what went down". What's he referring to?

[@TwoOreosOneCup]

In all honesty, I feel like Terry didn't want to go against what Paige said to create an awkward moment during their podcast. It shouldn't tell you "where you stand" with Terry, it just tells you that Terry doesn't have the stones to call someone on a comment that they disagree with.

[@RaijinCaijun]

And this is exactly the drama and speculation that PP was talking about. Brodie fails to realize that other people do their job differently. If he could stop talking obnoxiously loudly over everyone for a few minutes he might protect his brand a bit more.

[@CKdaBK]

“Attack” lol

[@Stayflipnawesome]

I’ve met both these guys, they both are solid. They are the same person at home as they are in public. No fake fronts! They get flip’n awesome status

[@Solami987]

Seems like Paige has general disdain for you Brodie, maybe it's your personality or something you said in the past that rubbed her the wrong way, and she was quick to turn off. I think it's not professional for Paige to comment like this, it's not good for her brand - she could use a lesson in PR and public speaking. Unless her goal is to stir the pot to maintain relevancy, which she doesn't need to do because her reputation is legendary. Better for her to just try and make friends here. Additionally, you're all Discraft, that makes her criticisms worse

[@alexlane288]

I really wish Paige would come on and hash it out with brodie and uli as a mediator. I feel Brodie would be fair and let her say her piece and would be honest blunt and counter her if she is wrong but be willing to concede when he is wrong. However, unfortunately I get the feeling that Paige is the type of closed minded person to refuse this and would rather avoid confrontation and risk being the one who is wrong and admitting she is wrong, then just doing so. I could be wrong because I do not know her in an personal fashion and I do not watch her content. Which probably says something about me. I personally don't agree with everything brodie says, and I do feel he gets overly passionate about things (I say as I will do the same thing without realizing it) but he is honest, open minded and he is willing to admit he is wrong if you can provide substantial evidence to support that claim. Paige also has every right to not want to be on their podcast. She has every right not to like someone for whatever reason she wants. I just don't feel making it public AND being incorrect in her justification is right. That becomes slander. Brodie says some harsh and unnecessary things sometimes but he has apologized after many times to those individuals if he has gone too far. Also the piece of gossip and speculation, first off what else do talk shows do???? After they spit facts and review the sides they then speculate about the future. That's literally how commentary works. Also I find it ironic she used that as reasoning but did just that about Brodie even though she said that's why she won't go on the show........

[@ryansuter4424]

When in a conversation people often respond in kind to a person’s comment. It’s called being put in the spot.

[@christaphersut7347]

Brody is a clown and a burden on the sport. Not a professional at all! I hate seeing it!!

[@baronvonnembles]

Political troll?

[@christaphersut7347]

​@baronvonnembles know nothing about politics, have no interest. Just a shame to see this in my opinion

[@EvanLudesWeatherNatureVideo]

Terry asked "Not your favorite [podcast]?" and Paige responded "do not subscribe" i.e., "I'm not subscribed to their podcast." Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, live and let live. Brodie and Paige are obviously both personalities that arent concerned about 100% of people liking them.

[@Dav963]

Brodie spitting facts, backing this opinion 100%

[@harlanzip]

I think the piece to highlight is she says she doesn’t like “speculation”

[@orionbeach764]

To which Brodie thinks the response is to speculate on her motives, instead of just asking. What a coward.

[@jordanwalker3938]

and he's quoting the dictionary hahahaha brodie you're my favorite because you're leaning into the the dumb heel role so well

[@rileysan2k2]

This is the first time I've listened to one of Brodie's podcasts, and I have some thoughts: 1) I like the subject matter; there's nothing to criticize or complain about. 2) He has every right to defend his work from baseless and ambiguous attacks. 3) Paige's body language tells me that her dislike of Brodie's podcast is personal, not professional. I think most, if not all of the comments about why she dislikes Brodie are accurate, but it's still not an excuse to attack without provocation. However, 4) Brody is not polished. I hope that changes over time, but right now he is not engaging, making him difficult to listen to regardless of how much I like, or agree with him.

[@FoundationPodcasts]

What are some ways to become more engaging?

[@rileysan2k2]

@@FoundationPodcasts Asking me for advice about making a podcast is akin to a chef asking a patron how to fix a bad meal; I don't know - I just know that it doesn't taste right. That said, here's the opinion of an armchair quarterback: I listen to a lot of talk radio, so I'm thinking along those lines. The first thing I would do is play the clip with only a brief introduction. Secondly, I would break the clip down into segments (replaying each segment in order), make scripted comments about each segment, then ask Uli for his input, discuss, then move on to the next segment, rinse and repeat. By breaking the clip down into manageable segments, you and Uli can talk about the clip in a way that is concise, keeps the listener engaged AND makes it easy to remember. In short, this particular podcast feels like a couple of monologues, not a lively discussion. You are both very entertaining in other venues, so there's no reason why you can't be in this one - even if the subject matter is delicate. I wish you both all the best in your future podcasts!

[@jamesyantis9334]

Great podcasts! I take it back Brodie, I take it all back😢

[@hoyle7780]

I'm still confused as to why paige has an issue with brodie or the podcast. I think it would be in her best interest to go on & explain, like an adult, what the issue is and try & hash it out. People can have different opinions, it's ok. Doesn't mean it's an attack on you.

[@playdiscgolf1546]

Brodie doesn’t like biological males competing in gender protected divisions. It’s simple

[@erictriplett33]

As for PP saying Brodie doesn't watch FPO, um, Brodie and Uli just did a fantastic interview with one of my favorite players (and Texans!) Holyn H. Brodie was breaking down several shots throughout her round, and described his genuinely pumped reaction (like me) when she slammed home that bomb putt on 18 to tie Ohn. Oh, he also referenced HH's big putt on 17th hold at this tourney last year. But yeah, he doesn't watch FPO. I also thought her being dismissive of the SS / Nick and Matt show was pretty lame. I wish Paige well and glad she's healing and back playing well, but she's dropping in my eyes as someone I want to root for.

[@ztsb_koneko]

This was a pretty bad look for PP. It's pretty clear it's a personal take which is fine, she can pick which shows to appear on for whichever reason, but to bring it up unprompted the way she did AND in such a hypocrite way, criticizing TL for gossip and drama while going out of her way to do exactly that, it makes her look really unprofessional (and petty). I would have much rather seen her grab the bull by the horns, get on TL and let the guys hear what she thinks. Or be professional about and decline promptly.

[@davidbabich806]

Brodie, your response is proof of Paige's point. It's a gossipy and defensive response. Also, please let Uli finish.

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

A bit of gaslighting here. Everyone knows why Paige doesn’t like Brodie now. The elephant is so large, it’s funny to ignore it and act like “I have no idea”

[@baronvonnembles]

I'm no Brodie fan boy but PP is just an unhappy griper. I don't think she has ever reconciled herself to the fact that not only is Kristen is better than she is but the days of PP running away from the FPO field will never return.

[@Retranime]

Brodie shouldn’t be on tour life when he doesn’t tour 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ or finishes 85th every tourney

[@FoundationPodcasts]

That’s a good hot take

[@drewb410]

I just want my DGTV "shot of the day" again.

[@sneakerwizards454]

PP just lost a fan…

[@EricSmith-od4fx]

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[@sc3639]

I mean, brodie and uli are out there hustling. Mad respect goes out to those two for competing and running businesses and running a podcast(s) and creating content, and also being married. Often the people who are throwing shade are the ones that wouldn't be able to keep up to doing half of the things that they are. Are Brodie and Uli always right? No but they never clamed to be and I don't think we would expect them to be. They are doing the best that they can with the time that they have left and I think that that is admirable. Keep up the good work guys.

[@macheteddie]

anyone whos been playing for a long time and is from the DFW area, knows Paiges real attitude. I would say the other podcast didnt say anything because they don't agree with her and they didn't want to call her out on it.

[@ryandaley1270]

16:20 Uli was just trying to tell you not to take it personally, no need to get defensive with him.. and I agree with him, I don't think they were in a position to defend you, so that shouldn't be indicative of your relationship with Terry.

[@jdizzy92403]

What’s sad is she’s been waiting for how long to say this just so she can say it. Just goes to show how politics and cultural issues can really bother and hang with people.

[@eoghana315]

Paige thinks any criticism or differing opinion of her is an attack. Many such cases!

[@Flanfam]

Don’t you all have a disc together? Seems it should have been brought up off screen if she has issues. Isn’t it always a passion?

[@FoundationPodcasts]

It’s always a passion

[@tomwood1400]

Interviewers moving on from a topic and not pushing back sometimes is because they don’t agree … pushback can often rabbit trail and turn into an argument

[@broderickengelhard939]

I’m new to disc golf, been watching FPO / MPO for about a month. Listen to the pod a few times. I do really like the FPO field. Really had no opinion of the shade - but I think this is an appropriate and fair response. Good on you

[@hotmustardseed]

There’s new competition now from both pros and podcasts in disc golf.

[@kalovass8802]

I think Uli hit it right on. People are soft and that means they will not get better. You can’t improve unless you acknowledge the things that are broken and things need to be fixed That’s the most painful part but it’s what makes us grow.

[@jamesreid8680]

Respect for Uli intact. Phew.

[@Itzshawn314]

For the record Brodie does start too much unwanted drama for someone whos never really top 10, and has a hard time keeping up with the younger players

[@MuddyPuttersDG]

Not sure why Brodie sounds like Alex Jones now but it’s irritating.

[@dustinrooffener6327]

I see that Brodie's ultimate reputation is following him to disc golf

[@JeraldHile-tw6gv]

Are these guys still in middle school. Someone said something about you oh no. If you are upset call them and act like an adult. This is just Facebook drama on a podcast.

[@vanceoliver7940]

I think the thing that triggered it was the picking of the Olympic teams or something like that a few podcasts ago.

[@michaelking1059]

don't support Paige at all... but drama does help drive sports talk. She doesn't have to like Brodie and Brodie doesn't have to like her

[@HARwinsOUTagain]

Tour Life…keep up what you are doing! Who needs more boring PDGA styled interviews with the players? Same stuff you see on live events - paint drying on walls type excitement. Your convos with touring players is so much more fun and entertaining!

[@mariomora4808]

God bless you two!

[@RichardbStockton]

I don't even know if Drew's comment was a diss. Your ball golf content was fire (specially the brofive) and its a lot bigger market then disc golf. Brodie w/ bogey bros vs Bob does sport would be fun to watch or fore play.

[@tomoberg7344]

You guys are awesome. Never change. You work together so well. I appreciate your love for the game. It is obvious to all. I have never heard any hate from either of you!

[@mjmellock]

Sad to see that about someone who loves the sport as much as Terry does. Trying to build his brand is hard but this was not good on his part.

[@2yearsapart678]

Thanks for creating content for the fellas to cover. Nothing like saying save the drama meanwhile creating what you have so much disdain for.

[@andyhampsten4252]

Great pod on a tough topic. Maybe Paige has discovered a life outside round the clock disc, and thinking she has a sisterhood of players and the hate on Ryan destroys that. She seems beat down, and now she's hating on promoters of the sport. Suck it up or quit.