Kevin Rose On Entrepreneurship, Zen Buddhism, And Being Vulnerable

Ryan speaks with Kevin Rose about the pros and cons of his entrepreneurial drive, the calming effects of reducing the amount of stuff that you have, the overlap between Zen Buddhism and Stoicism, the dangers of social media, why being vulnerable is the hardest thing to do, and more.
Kevin Rose is an entrepreneur, podcaster, and television host. Having co-founded the companies Revision3, Digg, Pownce, and Milk, and having been a venture partner at GV, Kevin’s work focuses on tracking and contributing to rising trends in the tech industry. As a host, he has worked on the G4 shows The Screen Savers, Unscrewed With Martin Sargen, and Diggnation, for which he also started a weekly podcast. He currently serves as the CEO of Proof and a partner of True Ventures. You can find Kevin’s work at his website kevinrose.com, and on Instagram @kevinrose and Twitter @kevinrose.
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[@Digimess88]

I used to download The Screensavers (Comcast didn't have TechTV) and The Broken episodes back in high school, even had a The Broken tshirt lol. So much has changed in the last 20 years and I'll always appreciate those early days because I learned so much. After watching this I'm still learning from Kevin. So thank you, Kevin and thanks Ryan.

[@mlegrand]

I started following Kevin Rose back in the Screen Saver days. So good to see him pop up here on the podcast. 👏

[@AV8RLUKE]

what a throwback. now i'm feeling the nostalgia of G4TV. kevin is such a pro, he partially turned this into a ryan holiday interview lol

[@ravenofthewild]

I had never heard of either of you before but video title captured my attention. I found this conversation thoughtful, insightful and interesting. As a lover of Philosophy and Buddhism I truly resonated with a lot of this. Just after 57 minutes when you're talking about not focusing on goals but truly being in the proces is invaluable for life. It's astonishing to me how goal focused our society is and thus most people are missing out on the moments that are our life here and now. I have found happiness here has been in my willingness to accept whatever is happening in each moment, to find the gifts. I've been through what can be judged as very dark and even negative experiences and can honestly say every one of these has had gifts. May we all know inner acceptance and peace. Blessings and Thank you. 🙏💞

[@pandabike3826]

Good to see Kevin talking again

[@Y3astInf3ction]

Watch these videos every day in the shower! The new music is great, keep it up Ryan!

[@korban007]

Kevin looks like a 1940s businessman with his glasses. He looked really young for such a long time. Like all the podcast he has done through the years

[@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776]

More recently I have been into some of the Zen Philosophies like Waabi Saabi. For a recovering perfectionist, it is seeing the double infinity of external and internal perfection of imperfection. It is appreciating the less glamourous apparently flawed organic fruits for their content and not for the shiny fruit that has been pumped with chemicals that looks more appealing. I also love the glasses example. My first job out of college when I first had health insurance, I bought a gold pair of Kata- Japanese glasses. It gave me a sense of zen, and also reconnected me with the training that I did as a young one in Aikido. Still have them and Japanese brands get how to build "gestalt" into their products much like artisans. There is also a great urban legend tied to eyewear. Supposedly because breaking Sharia Law can lead to loss of a hand historically, there is a story about a construction site in the middle east where someone left a pair of sunglasses on the wall being built. The masons kept putting the sunglasses up on each progressive level of the wall as it was built for fear of moral turpitude/corruption so that once the building was complete the glasses remain on the same wall that it started on at the lower level.

[@QVPhilosophy]

Your videos are amazing. Relaxing and informative at the same time. Your channel is a small gift to humanity!

[@carsonc1272]

My personal experience with Twitter/X was exactly like Ryan described. However, this has changed a lot in the past 4 months and I find it a pleasant/informative place to drop a few of my minutes every day.

[@TombstoneTube]

Is always great to listing to Kevin. He's looking like a junior David Sacks

[@QuesnelMedia]

Great conversation!

[@DJSTOEK]

❤❤❤❤

[@dawnfmEnthusiast]

3:11 Oak is such a great meditation app. Didn’t realize Kevin was involved in it! Appreciate his thought process behind it.

[@hiryuFGC]

Absolutely loved this conversation. Hope to see you guys chatting together in the future!

[@fs1m]

“There is no sure path in life, you can fail at what you don't really want to do, so you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.” - Jim Carrey

[@yevgeniyamaskayeva7320]

Thank you! ❤

[@mattstapleton9584]

Use the Alexander Technique to better implement stoic principles - AT allows us to use our minds and bodies in the most efficient way - purely from a bio-mechanical pov - Frederick Mathias Alexander (Australian actor born 1880 ish) called it taking control of our psycho-physical organism - counter intuitively the process involves mentally ceding control - stopping yourself from trying to be right in your ‘use of yourself’ - another fave Alexander phrase

[@rpersaud562]

wow, i didn't even recognize Kevin

[@Mongoose-ct6us]

Stoicism was started by Zeno of Citium. Zen Buddhism was started by Bodidharma. Same truth though. Zen has scriptures to burn though, Buddhist scriptures that is. Zen is the rebel of Buddhism. Stoicism has no scriptures to burn. Stoicism isn't rebellious like zen is but it is a philosophy based on natural order of events and handling them with indifference. I will add Stoics focused on the sphere of choice and indifference to anything outside the sphere of choice. Zen is just focusing on washing dishes when you are washing dishes. Zen says kill the Buddha if you see the Buddha. Zen is a rebel Buddhist. A stoic is more philosophical and no scriptures to rebelliously burn.

[@drewa1999]

Ryan, I wonder what your thoughts are regarding Dr. Martin and Dr.Drew's analysis of covid and the vaccine

[@spontaneousbootay]

Huh

[@HammyGiblets]

So cute listening to these overachievers who won at capitalism trying to keep grounded while experiencing increasing material wealth. "My wife said we can't keep filling this house with your awards, it's not a shrine to you, and I agreed, how many do you need and they lose meaning and are ethereal." Keep stoic through the struggle people.

[@asdf072xxp]

How does he look that f'n old! He's aged 40 years.

[@StudyQubic]

Alcohol and stress

[@zim312]

Does anyone know what glasses Kevin is wearing?

[@gbhall]

Oh man I didn’t even recognise Kevin

[@andresbarriga5305]

Why are they in jail?

[@bobbrotchie720]

Opening explanation from Kevin sounds very much like the statement someone with ADHD might say! (If this is already well known, apologies!)

[@GenaroBardy]

Hahaha Ryan saying Satori moments are probably made up is kinda funny :) he never got one for sure. You don't need 9 years of meditation, you can do it like Sam Harris, in the flip of a second

[@imaginationstotheworld2667]

can take 3 seconds or 30 years...

[@jayheywood9635]

kev got old

[@DG-kr8pt]

I love how they think that Elon and Glenn are victims of audience capture. Seems like an easy thing to hurl when the reality is they just disagree with them. Also hilarious to say that Elon is cronicly online when he is running Starlink, Tesla, Boring, and SpaceX lmao. Would love to hear their specific issues with either of those guys especially if they talked to them directly. Could you image either kevin or ryan saying that to them? They would get buried in a debate with either. Also, thinking that Sam Harris is the smart one of the IDW and everyone else in it are garbage people is laughable. Sam Harris clearly just has TDS and no real points at all. Literal brainrot. Again, would love to see ryan confront any of these people verbally and get learned real fast. The most surprising thing is Ryan is smart enough to know that legacy media is trash and you usually get these opinions from people that believe everything on the news.

[@jk-fy8on]

Wow its Kevin Ross from Diggnation. He looks so different now. He used to be so slic and hot. He became like alex albrect.😢

[@genghisgalahad8465]

0:01-0:15 okay, I'm hearing it and grasping it, but I'm NOT feeling it YET with this very manly go-getter vibe, blurb, and initial impression. No, man. I think its very quality can only be fully grasped and understood if I'm able to somehow EXPERIENCE it and FEEL it and SEE It SHOWN say in a performance or further sharing! 🎉 There is no instance where a manly talk is going to convince me to be "vulnerable" when I'm just being told (to be fair, it's a clip, and I'm being hypecritically judgy off the bat). Versus, if it's a preview video soundbite of a shared story moment, ya know? That, too, is an honest art. I can't be convinced this way: intellectually. I won't even nod my head, sure, politely. When we're all rich with examples around us. Better yet, a story shared or an example can do greater wonders than telling even if the talk is fully intellectual. Give us the buy-in, fellas! Plus, Zen and Buddhism, dont fight, guys. Dont defeat the purpose of both of youse. No vs, just vittles.

[@The10.000ThingsOfficial]

Its funny even the ones that achieve mastery in some sense like ryan in writing, are still prone to get into biases in other fields. Remember the quotes of the stoics in always being a student" read more about psychedelics. It seems you only read about people raving and partyng !. Very bias view , but we are all ignorant in some field!.

[@kharos7638]

You are known for reading a lot of books, I want to suggest to you a book that if you read it, it might change your life, the book is the Quran. I've suggested this for you because you seem like your interested in religious books such as the Buddha books etc.

[@maphisexxon7630]

Thank you Ryan. Could you setup a interview with Andrew Tate.? On Mordern vs traditional Stoicism

[@nevertellmethaoddz8581]

He would never do it, but it would be a fantastic interview. They share many of the same views, though I suspect Ryan would never want to accept the comparison.

[@aviatorsky]

Jesus loves you! ❤ He died so that we could be saved from our sins. His word is true and He loves us more than we can fathom and will guide us farther than we could ever do ourselves! Turn to Him today! ❤

[@carlitos05]

Go away

[@dcron6]

Glen Greenwald is possibly the best and bravest journalist I've heard of out there. Literally risked his freedom and life many times. 1 of the main reasons Edward Snowden is free today. It's pretty embarrassing to see how uninformed Ryan is about him. Tucker's not perfect as is no one but he's the ONLY TV analyst that came out against bombing Syria when all the other analysts from both leanings (Dem & Rep) were all cheerleading the bombing. Ryan might know Stoic history more than I do. But it's sad how uninformed he is about the propaganda that we all see daily.

[@MrNGTfan123]

You can’t tell Ryan leans heavily left in this interview, it’s a bit disappointing and ironic given the principals he preaches

[@truthbetold9915]

You’re right. Personally, I think he’s FOS, he merchandises Stoicism.

[@nevertellmethaoddz8581]

Good for you, go find someone who better represents Stoicism on your side of the aisle. Good luck....

[@HammyGiblets]

He owns a massive ranch in the country and a struggle is his son drawing crayon on the walls. It's tough stuff indeed.@@truthbetold9915

[@imaginationstotheworld2667]

@@truthbetold9915 he sells it; and robs people. in zen Buddhism teacher will say i have nothing to teach its all perfectly clear.

[@truthbetold9915]

@@imaginationstotheworld2667 Amen. Let the mind do its own work.