Robert Greene on the Wisdom of the Stoics

[@PrivateEquityGuy]

*Every family has a legend who breaks all odds, I believe that is you reading this*

[@Weightitpackitcou]

yes it is

[@ravishoul1432]

Stop the pressure

[@bettermanchannel770]

Well that's all cuddly and sweet

[@PrivateEquityGuy]

@@bettermanchannel770 Gotcha:=)

[@soumendrapatra2342]

How do you know?

[@IsaacJoshi]

*To all dreamers out there, don't ever let the world's negativity disenchant you or your spirit. If your surround yourself with love and with right people, Anything is possible.* *Good luck friend!*

[@Bingbang.1]

Let us also not forget god. May god guide us all to righteousness, amen.

[@Caffein780]

Finding good friends isn't easy.

[@leelavathich4589]

👏super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@CesarSantosLopezYolo]

I've never liked this kind of toxic positivity atmosphere... There are several studies that show pessimism is also a good thing... Don't let yourself be absorbed by this type of thoughts but be self-critical and rational.

[@D1ddlysquat]

“We suffer more in imagination than in reality” that just changed my life

[@Maxra78]

ihope it can change mine also

[@dianeward5405]

Really? Lucky you!

[@MrZERK7]

Brilliant, thank you for having Robert so frequently He certainly is full of wisdom

[@VaynerSpeakers]

💯

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@bellakrinkle9381]

Netflix "Borgen" is a good example of the techniques Greene discusses here. It's a practiced skill and worth learning. I just finished the entire series and loved it.

[@Kareemgreen21]

@@VaynerSpeakers uuuuiuu out uuuuu

[@danielduarte2139]

"It's resistance that make us stronger". Thank you, Robert, for this one. As when we are working out, as in life when we face a problem, it's resistance that makes us stronger. Why do we seek resistance in one scenario and run away from it in the other?

[@rogeliorodriguez8518]

This is so true. I used to be agreeable but have slowly started tilting more towards being disagreeable unless I'm proved wrong. That resistance was uncomfortable at first.

[@johnyoung6680]

So absolutely profound.

[@HenryHale]

Thank you Ryan and Mr. Greene for the education I receive every time we are graced with your wisdom. This is the Stoa of KZbin.

[@VaynerSpeakers]

🙌

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@acajudi100]

I was blessed to be raised as a child to have morals and common sense. You rock Mr. Green.

[@sylquin-wright3640]

Such an honour & privilege to witness these two great wise writers Robert Greene & Ryan Holiday together in the same room, discussing the elegant virtues of stoicism as a creed for our times. Gratitude+++🙏💙

[@denismaftei691]

Ryan dont now nothing man

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

Someone told me use both their daily meditations for insight. I’ve incorporated each antidote into my AM journal. I’m a month in and I feel like I’m winning every day. How could I loose with these two to help gear me up for the day. ❤️

[@hightop_4819]

These are the only 2 authors I read from, I'm with you on that

[@andypeterson6165]

What an awesome attitude. Keep going!!!

[@StefanieSpencer]

Me too! I read the daily pages for each every morning!

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

@@StefanieSpencer yay!! That’s fantastic!

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

@@andypeterson6165 😊❤️

[@YoungCisto]

Watching these 2 legends is like watching a sensei and student discussing..

[@littleangel18]

Two great men informing the world on how to cope better w life’s adversities

[@thecookiechannel7083]

Thank you for providing a glimpse of sanity on KZbin.

[@azanianprince274]

26:18 that's why I appreciate Robert so much he constantly engages ideas and is not a yes man

[@SODEKA987]

Two best friends talking about their best favorite topic in the world. What a wonderful conversation. !Thanks for sharing.

[@luigipati3815]

Greene is right, Musashi is amazing....the book written by Wilson I could not put down, incredible story

[@johnalbert5786]

Yoshikawa book on Musashi the best.

[@Thesaxon1]

What a privilege to be able to sit in on this conversation with y'all. Thanks for the upload.

[@travishawk9627]

I’ve combined the daily stoic and daily laws into my new journaling habit, and I often look forward to journal on both of their thoughts.

[@TyAWilkins]

Been doing the same!

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@000glen]

What’s your journaling habit?

[@hannahyingzi]

This man is pure gold, started to appreciate him after I turning 34

[@running4fun863]

Robert Greene is so amazing, I love everything he says .

[@travisov]

I love Kurt Vonnegut's perspective on "going out to buy an envelope". Such a great metaphor for a lot of what yall talk about here. Grateful for you two.

[@FrancoPhysique]

My two favorite people in the same room! Thank you!

[@VaynerSpeakers]

💯

[@mdeniegas]

i love ryan holiday, his books helps me calm the inner storms brought by hostile working enviroment but i also love the wisdoms of robert greene he speaks for all of us, us who was abused ,bullied in the office politics, he wears our shoes ,he breathes the air we breathe upon working with good and bad people., the exposure, the experience ,he summed that up in this books , for someone who had been alot of jobs and expose to different people the wisdom on how to deal with them is priceless

[@ShahabAhmad1398]

How can you be grateful for the things you don't like? That you wish didn't happen? Ryan here I am shedding tears at the beauty of this concept. It hit me hard.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@nicolaspalacios7083]

4:30 is life a boxing match? 18:59 you can't expect an utopia 24:54 the problem with humans 1:00:31 how did Robert's near death experience changed him?

[@Ramenko1]

One of the best Robert Greene interviews

[@andilekaj2358]

A Robert Greene & Ryan Holiday podcast/interview/conversation must happen again‼️ Love listening to Robert talk to his most prolific student. And sharing it with an audience is just a privilege, very grateful to be able to witness this.

[@anthonyspivey6958]

Hey Ryan, “To be free of passion yet full of love” stood out to me as well. If you recall the sentence before that Marcus said “not to display anger or other emotions”. So what I think it means is if you’re angry at something you don’t allow yourself to go into a rage(passion) , but you’re still fully aware of how you feel (love). Another example, in romance, passion would be infatuation with the other person whereas love would be a clear on your desire for the other person. In summary I believe he is referring to an Aristotelian mean in a very poetic an eloquent fashion. -Thankyou

[@WickedIndigo]

Loved this analysis, wish you the best🙏

[@warlordpriest1]

“The circumstances are totally neutral.” Hard to get to that point, but…That’s a huge piece!

[@sarajohn6855]

Every word Robert says resonates so deeply with me. He articulates so well. What an outstanding individual. Thank you 🙏

[@axel_enelcamino]

Even that he's way older than most of us he has more life in his eyes than many young people living today

[@Somewhere-In-AZ]

27:28 (I know this post is a year old, but this thought may be relevant to someone). You’re talking about love and it reminded me of a recent conversation. The jest of it was about what “real” love is. My sister insisted it was an emotion. I argued that it requires ignoring your emotions. Love is an action. You are able to DO something when everything in you wants to run away. Think of it this way. Your baby has just ruined his diaper and it’s EVERYWHERE. Your instinct is NOT to clean up the mess. But you do. And you smile and make the baby comfortable and happy. You don’t act angry or put out. You DO what needs to be done. That’s love.

[@Caffein780]

Two great minds melding, it's awesome. I am grateful that you two exist in my time line.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@samuelbekko7644]

Great Conversation. I enjoyed every bit of it.

[@raginald7mars408]

... as a German Biologist - more than 10 years ago - I saw the first Videos of Greene - with his BULGING neck veins - and I wondered - is this a sure sign of a Stroke to come. So sad this then happened. He is the most adorable, wonderful humble person I can think of.

[@slikdiszsouljahr]

Warum hat ihn niemand gewarnt

[@raginald7mars408]

@Whispery Banalization. Greene created a horrible STRESS himself to do the super human work. He did long distance swimming - which is mostly anaerobic. He had Stress Molecules in his Blood all the time. This leads to Blood clotting. Paradox. Only with this Lifestyle he was able to CREATE. When we do all to live healthy - we may create too much Stress to stay healthy - Greene is so stubborn - he does not listen to any advice... this killed Steve Jobs...

[@EddyBuchi]

28:00 On Empathy and leads to loving who your emphasising with reminds me of the book "Enders Game" where he talks about knowing his enemy so closely he couldn't help but love them...

[@walk_with_cactus_pete]

Amazing mental stimulation being projected from these two.

[@gergosnoo]

Ryan, I watched your tiktok about Robert's 48 Rules of Power a week ago and decided that will be my book for W4 and now after finishing the book, this talk came out on KZbin. Everything you do resonates with me and thanks for your contribution in the world. You guys are great inspiration and made me rethink how I act in this world and how to be a better person I was yesterday.

[@blackbird3382]

This episode is so great. Thank you guys.

[@alancortez8350]

I want to push back on what robert said about interview preparation, and having a plan in general. What works for me a lot is indifference with confidence. If you understand that thing does not matter(indifference) and that you’re a capable(confidence) it usually goes well. Look you’re not going to be 10/10 in your life, but as long as you’re scoring you can still be playing. 6/10 without stress and anticipation is soo much better

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@ameer4686]

Over come your fear and move forward wisdom is godly ✨

[@pawelkarbowski3622]

What an engaging video! Thanks for this inspiring and thoughtful conversation.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@jaxxenriquez9542]

I just discovered your page and instantly signed up for the daily morning emails. I look forward to incorporating to my routine. Thank You! :)

[@christycaseda]

Amazing right?

[@susanclare5475]

I think the Boxing Rules are called "Queensbury Rules" . I literally cannot believe I can tell my 2 favourite writers something, after they have taught me an unbelievable amount about so many things!

[@Dude0000]

Marquess of Queensbury who’s son was the lover of Oscar Wilde, for whom the good Marquess hated with a passion. True story.

[@The1scooter]

I wish i had more time to listen to all of this. Fortunately Ryan puts out shorts that help his teachings digest able in small bites too.

[@milesgreen1430]

It is The Marquess of Queensbury Rules...Sirs... Enjoyable dialogue...

[@67NewEngland]

-25:40 I think Marcus sees passion as being an unguided extreme emotion therefore a weakness. Where as the Stoics teach to love but not to take what you love for granted . Don’t assume it/they will be there tomorrow. Controlled emotions.

[@KBradAdams]

The Queensberry rules of boxing!

[@blazelandusa]

I’m one year late to this video. But do not fall asleep on the Buffalo Bills. Sean McDermott has some superior discipline himself, keep up the great work. I’m grateful to find you. Oh & Go Bills! 👊😊

[@connorbryan8189]

Loved the mention of Mushashi. In a lot of ways I think he could be considered an Eastern Stoic

[@dentalgrowthmx]

read the vagabond manga, amazing artwork, it's a fictional interpretation of Miyamoto's life and development as a human beign

[@connorbryan8189]

@@dentalgrowthmx oh I loved every page of it. It’s now my 2nd favorite ever, only to Berserk.

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@carlosraymundomartinezesq3396]

I really enjoyed this conversation. I do feel like the anti-vax sentiment has not aged that well. We should definitely be sympathetic to these people. In my lifetime I have seen big pharma wreak havoc and death with the opioid crisis. I’ve lost people to it myself. That crisis was %100 the fault of big pharma. I’d say that’s good reason to treat people with kindness end empathy who are suspicious of the vaccine. Also, the studies can’t be released for 50 years and what we have seen has been heavily heavily redacted. You are them, they are you. You taught me that.

[@norrell35]

The anti Vax sentiment has aged very well. "We have to live with these people," he said. Both of them should be ashamed and never allowed to forget what they've wrought on society. A banishment from the public square is the only acceptable fate.

[@barbarahutchinson956]

Thank you for your comment. We are all here trying to learn and be better. I did not agree with the covid vaccine or the many boosters, (especially when government and employers tried to force you) but do not consider myself anti-vaccine at all. Getting words of wisdom from people who don't think like you is a great learning experience on how you handle things. It was a very good conversation.

[@ivanm9180]

This is awesome! Always great when these two come together

[@selmen9240]

Very insightful and instructive! Thank you for sharing with us.

[@bigmig5015]

Such a great conversation! So many great insights. As a beginning stoic I do notice it’s hard to almost become narcissistic about the world and others who are not…mainly because this way of thinking is so much so on a higher level of thinking than the majority of this ultimately primal world.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@nishantshakya5706]

I'm greatful for youtube, Im greatful for the internet, Im greatful to be alive. Thank you

[@chaddickerson1887]

This interview is like a class on how to be an oblivious hypocrite, by Bob Verde.

[@SharkOrDie]

Knowledge, Wisdom, & Understanding

[@samsohn]

Best interview ever Ryan! Thank you.

[@lisaammerman9846]

I wish I'd been taught this.... I was young and found life very rough but taught not to defend myself but that conflict was not normal and meant that there was something wrong with me

[@m.vonhollen6673]

Both men seemed more ready to impart their lessons than to absorb the other’s lessons.

[@piratenLjos]

Top 10 duos of all time

[@brittbanz4512]

I've just been searching substantial videos on KZbin to feel more productive and feel good about how i spend my time as a 22 year old. This is my first exploration to Stoicism and I didn't even know the word before watching this. Though I'm not that well versed with the philosophies and inspirational people you mentioned, it is amazing how I could still grasp what you were trying to say. I feel that could really understand your points from my own perspective. I'm grateful to have come across this video. I learned a lot and the video was fruitful the entire duration. Thank You!

[@NewGoldenEraRap]

Thank you both ❤

[@djkitty777]

@34:16 I think the reason for worrying ahead of time is to force yourself to try to strategize the best ways to handle it.

[@gghhiiyy456]

Thank you for your podcasts. I am a new listener and shared some with friends. I was thinking the same thing:there’s an icky sweetness to the smell

[@ArtrichStudio]

I love this interview, I have watched it a few times. Now I'm watching it and I got 10 ads for your polar bear plunge and I'm only half way through. It's a little excessive.

[@thirdparsonage]

I've definitely been enjoying a lot of the Stoic stuff on this channel including this talk. Not sure the comments about anti-vaxxers have aged particularly well, though.

[@Daneiladams555]

I am damn sure it hasn't aged well, its a dumb comment that needs some speaking to

[@idaloup6721]

My practice of stoicism enabled me to harness my emotions as a tool like an actor and then put them away in a draw. A bit cynical maybe but freeing. I realized that the emotions I used to feel were mostly those of others, a manipulation, energetic vampires but not what I felt whatsoever. There are collective emotions which are very sneaky because they embroil you forcibly. Stoicism and discernment is the same, It's all about the supraconsciousness and I say supra because the consciousnesse can be altered by everything we see in the media etc... But the supraconsciousness is unadulterated. It's this part of you that is not in the body, you can call it spirit guide, that knows what's beyond the veil. Gratitude 🙏

[@idaloup6721]

@Sk9epx It's not something that you can explain. It's an experience to be lived individually once you intend to break away from the 3D consciousness which is a manipulation in order to keep you in a mental jail. Don't give your consent and live this experience like an actor in a movie knowing that you are more than that on a spiritual level

[@Candyliz2003]

Awareness. In many cultures that hold awareness of the life around them, eg., in the film "Avatar" the Na'vi tribe demonstrate their awareness of the life around them by verbally giving thanks for it - especially if they need to end that life. We are all a part of the web of life. Be aware of it all, because it all affects us.

[@joan3891]

I love these convos! 🙏🏼👍

[@cv4853]

this video is great, i hope you guys make more videos like this

[@leelavathich4589]

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@burgcarli929]

Modern society makes it tougher and tougher to use Stoicism in handling the life's difficulties. Through social media, lives and reputations can be irrevocably damaged. There is no philosophy that can mitigate this reality.

[@superchops5150]

I find this so reassuring!

[@Thaxildds]

I hope what you are teaching can help others have tolerance with your beliefs and views regarding global warming and "antivacc" who are hold different beliefs which are scientific rational arguments.

[@usernameaz602]

@32:32 A massive pile of innocent suffering. That to me is illustrative of the fundamental human flaw. If I use the power of language and the strength of my character to convince you to leverage the pain and suffering od the innocent to better ends we're loving. If we collectively decide that progress should come over their dead bodies instead of ours, we're pathological.

[@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776]

Great meditation to start the day=]

[@lackshubalasubramaniam7311]

Great advise. Especially for situations in the workplace.

[@TheOakenwulf]

Hello, non vaccinated viewer here. How are things? I enjoy your content and wish you well. My question: How would me being unvaccinated prevent others from being vaccinated? If anything it's helping increase the availability of the vaccine. Also, how do we determine what the correct ideology is when neither of us are virology or pharmaceutical experts and may both have data from experts that support each side?

[@wrmlm37]

I think it has more to do with "societal" responsibility, for which, neither expertise are necessary...

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@TheOakenwulf]

@@wrmlm37 Point taken. So how do we differentiate civil duty and blind compliance?

[@isobelgraham3626]

Totally agree, this for me turned me off, literally I didn't watch til the end after that ignorant comment 😣

[@eltocayo87]

Damn Douglas Abramski, love your way of thinking. No insult to the speaker but you ask a legitimate question.

[@dougmetcalf3720]

Looks like you retrofit your LaSportiva shoes with Salomon lacing system. I’m the only person I’ve known to ever do this, glad to see there are others who have seen the light!

[@jwilsss]

Best episode yet! Thank you for bringing these to us 🧡

[@samstevens9720]

We should be waging a war of opposing ideas, not a war against one another.

[@rodrigodiaz9472]

Robert Greene is a master

[@IsaacJoshi]

*no one deserves success more than this channel keen to see your continued growth!* *You've got this :)*

[@MintStateMarshall]

I've bought all your books... Never will again

[@soar_dfuzr7514]

Why not? And whose books ur talking bout

[@DJSTOEK]

Thank you

[@kkszwarc]

Surviving is winning!

[@tradways]

Listening to this in july 2023; I would love to here your opinions about the C-vax as the side negative side effects have come out.

[@anisboucheneb736]

I would dream for a mentor like Robert Greene

[@Santiino]

Such a deep interesting conversation. So much to learn love you two ;)

[@JM-zi4in]

I needed this. Thank you

[@soibumEromba]

can anyone tell the background music in 3:20??

[@FrancesSchagen]

You can't have more empathy/support/ability to help for someone than they have for themselves.

[@hugomarx6479]

Highly recommend : Be water my friend - Shannon Lee Life changing book

[@johnferguson2273]

At 39 I am so thankful I have stumbled upon a way of living that can help me overcome many problems that have hampered me my whole life. Why don't we get this in school . Why did this information not Trump foreign language...drama...home ec..gym...math...science etc...wtf

[@onesuperiorman]

Great podcast. One question - why would you be angry with any anti-vax people? The vaccine does not stop the spread of the virus and only helps the vaccinated person with the severity of the virus. So I’m wondering how someone’s choice to be un-vaxxed that has no consequence, apart from themselves which is of course their choice, anger you or anyone?

[@curtiscashen628]

They say the vax makes the hospital visit or death less likely, but curiously they never give any studies about that. Could it be they are lying about that too?

[@sarahprosecco]

@curtiscashen628 funny that since within the first 14 days it makes it MOST likely and hospitalisations and deaths of those who were ≤14 days from first jab were recorded as 'unvaccinated'!

[@NovaaGrind]

This helps me with my empty hole I'm trying to fill in. Wholesome

[@earthangel8596]

As a child around the age of 5-6 I would have a dream about being in darkness but not Scary. I felt totally content, like waiting my turn. It was dark so that juxtaposition always was odd and noticeable to me because as a child everything that's dark is kind of scary. , and I would snap from the darkness to like the form of a circle and the circle would begin rolling along (I'm viewing it from like a one-dimensional view) ... the circle would speed up and get out of control which would cause the line to wobble in destroy itself. The dream would allow me to start the circle over again, when I did I was conscious of slowing the circle down kept the circle in control without getting its lines scribbled about. But once you took your focus off of the circle sped up and crashed. I always reflected on the feeling of peace and serenity I experienced those times as a child dreaming that particular dream. Try to put myself back there.

[@steveg8102]

Stoicism and hardcore punk rock are the keys to a happy life.

[@costasehagal6153]

I inherited nativity in my blood gens from my long-dead ancestors. I was exploited. deceived. manipulated as well as socially humiliated. But the life changed when I read his his book. 48 laws of power. I caged giant loosen naive demons 👹 inside my veins. this man has served to the humanity.

[@DanteRodriguez.]

The amount of ads placed in this video is ridicules my boy

[@Liontreesbets]

Dude I’ve had 5 in the first 15 min wtf is going on this is madness

[@renatablindoso]

"To be free of passion, but full of love"- first of all, we need to set a difference between emotions and feelings. Emotions are an immediate reaction, a nervous system reaction, more specifically, the lymbic system, it's a physical state, it is basic and irrational, so these are considered emotions: anger, fear, disgust, enjoyment, surprise, on the other hand, feelings is more something of the soul, it is more elevated, it also involves some thinking, some mental activity, so love is a feeling, longing, empathy, compassion, trust, betrayal, etc, a feeling can also be considered an emotion that went through an inner alchemy, you thought about it and you elevated it. It is more a subjective experience rather than an instinctual response. So when MA says "to be free of passion, but full of love", it means not to be reactive, but not be devoid of feeling, get in touch with the highest feeling and serve it, but be strong and don't be reactive to outside events. He probably didn't think of it in these terms, but it has a lot to do with healing trauma, because when you heal your inner wounds you are not easily triggered, you have more inner power. So that is it, love, and be strong, don't get triggered over small things, love, but be loyal to your love and not to annoyances. Look beyond. That is a noble way of existing.