Robert Greene on the Wisdom of the Stoics

How do you view your life with objectivity?
Ryan Holiday talks to bestselling author Robert Greene about the importance of understanding, processing, and observing your emotions, our natural tendency as humans to take the path of least resistance, how to deal with anxiety by viewing situations objectively, working on his new book about the laws of the sublime, and more.
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Robert Greene is an American author known for his books on strategy, power, and seduction. He has written six international bestsellers: The 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Seduction, The 33 Strategies of War, The 50th Law, Mastery, and The Laws of Human Nature. His new book The Daily Laws: 366 Meditations on Power, Seduction, Mastery, Strategy, and Human Nature is a daily devotional designed to help you seize your destiny.
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*Every family has a legend who breaks all odds, I believe that is you reading this*

[@Weightitpackitcountitstackit]

yes it is

[@youtubedestroyedmylife309]

ghey

[@ravishoul1432]

Stop the pressure

[@bettermanchannel770]

Well that's all cuddly and sweet

[@privateequityguy]

@@bettermanchannel770 Gotcha:=)

[@IsaacJoshi]

*To all dreamers out there, don't ever let the world's negativity disenchant you or your spirit. If your surround yourself with love and with right people, Anything is possible.* *Good luck friend!*

[@Bingbang.1]

Let us also not forget god. May god guide us all to righteousness, amen.

[@Caffein780]

Finding good friends isn't easy.

[@leelavathich4589]

👏super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@CesarSantosLopezYolo]

I've never liked this kind of toxic positivity atmosphere... There are several studies that show pessimism is also a good thing... Don't let yourself be absorbed by this type of thoughts but be self-critical and rational.

[@MrZERK7]

Brilliant, thank you for having Robert so frequently He certainly is full of wisdom

[@VaynerSpeakers]

💯

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@bellakrinkle9381]

Netflix "Borgen" is a good example of the techniques Greene discusses here. It's a practiced skill and worth learning. I just finished the entire series and loved it.

[@kareemchareef]

@@VaynerSpeakers uuuuiuu out uuuuu

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

Someone told me use both their daily meditations for insight. I’ve incorporated each antidote into my AM journal. I’m a month in and I feel like I’m winning every day. How could I loose with these two to help gear me up for the day. ❤️

[@hightop_4819]

These are the only 2 authors I read from, I'm with you on that

[@andypeterson6165]

What an awesome attitude. Keep going!!!

[@StefanieSpencer]

Me too! I read the daily pages for each every morning!

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

@@StefanieSpencer yay!! That’s fantastic!

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

@@andypeterson6165 😊❤️

[@danielduarte2139]

"It's resistance that make us stronger". Thank you, Robert, for this one. As when we are working out, as in life when we face a problem, it's resistance that makes us stronger. Why do we seek resistance in one scenario and run away from it in the other?

[@rogeliorodriguez8518]

This is so true. I used to be agreeable but have slowly started tilting more towards being disagreeable unless I'm proved wrong. That resistance was uncomfortable at first.

[@johnyoung6680]

So absolutely profound.

[@callmekeef1165]

“We suffer more in imagination than in reality” that just changed my life

[@sylquin-wright3640]

Such an honour & privilege to witness these two great wise writers Robert Greene & Ryan Holiday together in the same room, discussing the elegant virtues of stoicism as a creed for our times. Gratitude+++🙏💙

[@denismaftei691]

Ryan dont now nothing man

[@running4fun863]

Robert Greene is so amazing, I love everything he says .

[@HenryHale]

Thank you Ryan and Mr. Greene for the education I receive every time we are graced with your wisdom. This is the Stoa of KZbin.

[@VaynerSpeakers]

🙌

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@hannahyingzi]

This man is pure gold, started to appreciate him after I turning 34

[@acajudi100]

I was blessed to be raised as a child to have morals and common sense. You rock Mr. Green.

[@travishawk9627]

I’ve combined the daily stoic and daily laws into my new journaling habit, and I often look forward to journal on both of their thoughts.

[@TyAWilkins]

Been doing the same!

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@000glen]

What’s your journaling habit?

[@carlosraymundomartinezesq3396]

I really enjoyed this conversation. I do feel like the anti-vax sentiment has not aged that well. We should definitely be sympathetic to these people. In my lifetime I have seen big pharma wreak havoc and death with the opioid crisis. I’ve lost people to it myself. That crisis was %100 the fault of big pharma. I’d say that’s good reason to treat people with kindness end empathy who are suspicious of the vaccine. Also, the studies can’t be released for 50 years and what we have seen has been heavily heavily redacted. You are them, they are you. You taught me that.

[@norrell35]

The anti Vax sentiment has aged very well. "We have to live with these people," he said. Both of them should be ashamed and never allowed to forget what they've wrought on society. A banishment from the public square is the only acceptable fate.

[@barbarahutchinson956]

Thank you for your comment. We are all here trying to learn and be better. I did not agree with the covid vaccine or the many boosters, (especially when government and employers tried to force you) but do not consider myself anti-vaccine at all. Getting words of wisdom from people who don't think like you is a great learning experience on how you handle things. It was a very good conversation.

[@gergosnoo]

Ryan, I watched your tiktok about Robert's 48 Rules of Power a week ago and decided that will be my book for W4 and now after finishing the book, this talk came out on KZbin. Everything you do resonates with me and thanks for your contribution in the world. You guys are great inspiration and made me rethink how I act in this world and how to be a better person I was yesterday.

[@anthonyspivey6958]

Hey Ryan, “To be free of passion yet full of love” stood out to me as well. If you recall the sentence before that Marcus said “not to display anger or other emotions”. So what I think it means is if you’re angry at something you don’t allow yourself to go into a rage(passion) , but you’re still fully aware of how you feel (love). Another example, in romance, passion would be infatuation with the other person whereas love would be a clear on your desire for the other person. In summary I believe he is referring to an Aristotelian mean in a very poetic an eloquent fashion. -Thankyou

[@WickedIndigo]

Loved this analysis, wish you the best🙏

[@littleangel18]

Two great men informing the world on how to cope better w life’s adversities

[@bladeandrifle838]

What a privilege to be able to sit in on this conversation with y'all. Thanks for the upload.

[@cocaleaf2358]

A Robert Greene & Ryan Holiday podcast/interview/conversation must happen again‼️ Love listening to Robert talk to his most prolific student. And sharing it with an audience is just a privilege, very grateful to be able to witness this.

[@SODEKA987]

Two best friends talking about their best favorite topic in the world. What a wonderful conversation. !Thanks for sharing.

[@ivanm9180]

This is awesome! Always great when these two come together

[@FrancoPhysique]

My two favorite people in the same room! Thank you!

[@VaynerSpeakers]

💯

[@blackbird3382]

This episode is so great. Thank you guys.

[@thecookiechannel7083]

Thank you for providing a glimpse of sanity on KZbin.

[@mdeniegas]

i love ryan holiday, his books helps me calm the inner storms brought by hostile working enviroment but i also love the wisdoms of robert greene he speaks for all of us, us who was abused ,bullied in the office politics, he wears our shoes ,he breathes the air we breathe upon working with good and bad people., the exposure, the experience ,he summed that up in this books , for someone who had been alot of jobs and expose to different people the wisdom on how to deal with them is priceless

[@alancortez8350]

I want to push back on what robert said about interview preparation, and having a plan in general. What works for me a lot is indifference with confidence. If you understand that thing does not matter(indifference) and that you’re a capable(confidence) it usually goes well. Look you’re not going to be 10/10 in your life, but as long as you’re scoring you can still be playing. 6/10 without stress and anticipation is soo much better

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@taylorjanegreen1]

PS - In particular the shows regarding “Monarch programming” as well as the Brad Olson interview. Very eye-opening stuff to consider regarding being conscious and aware of what is around us and facing fear. Thank you guys for your awesome work.

[@selmen9240]

Very insightful and instructive! Thank you for sharing with us.

[@azanianprince274]

26:18 that's why I appreciate Robert so much he constantly engages ideas and is not a yes man

[@nicolaspalacios7083]

4:30 is life a boxing match? 18:59 you can't expect an utopia 24:54 the problem with humans 1:00:31 how did Robert's near death experience changed him?

[@samsohn]

Best interview ever Ryan! Thank you.

[@axel_enelcamino]

Even that he's way older than most of us he has more life in his eyes than many young people living today

[@The1scooter]

I wish i had more time to listen to all of this. Fortunately Ryan puts out shorts that help his teachings digest able in small bites too.

[@Caffein780]

Two great minds melding, it's awesome. I am grateful that you two exist in my time line.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@YoungCisto]

Watching these 2 legends is like watching a sensei and student discussing..

[@Ramenko1]

One of the best Robert Greene interviews

[@walk_with_cactus_pete]

Amazing mental stimulation being projected from these two.

[@ShahabAhmad1398]

How can you be grateful for the things you don't like? That you wish didn't happen? Ryan here I am shedding tears at the beauty of this concept. It hit me hard.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@jaxxenriquez9542]

I just discovered your page and instantly signed up for the daily morning emails. I look forward to incorporating to my routine. Thank You! :)

[@christycaseda]

Amazing right?

[@ameer4686]

Over come your fear and move forward wisdom is godly ✨

[@SharkOrDie]

Knowledge, Wisdom, & Understanding

[@lackshubalasubramaniam7311]

Great advise. Especially for situations in the workplace.

[@Santiino]

Such a deep interesting conversation. So much to learn love you two ;)

[@sarajohn6855]

Every word Robert says resonates so deeply with me. He articulates so well. What an outstanding individual. Thank you 🙏

[@JM-zi4in]

I needed this. Thank you

[@samuelbekko7644]

Great Conversation. I enjoyed every bit of it.

[@NewGoldenEraRap]

Thank you both ❤

[@lisaammerman9846]

I wish I'd been taught this.... I was young and found life very rough but taught not to defend myself but that conflict was not normal and meant that there was something wrong with me

[@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776]

Great meditation to start the day=]

[@gghhiiyy456]

Thank you for your podcasts. I am a new listener and shared some with friends. I was thinking the same thing:there’s an icky sweetness to the smell

[@superchops5150]

I find this so reassuring!

[@pawelkarbowski3622]

What an engaging video! Thanks for this inspiring and thoughtful conversation.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@joan3891]

I love these convos! 🙏🏼👍

[@susanclare5475]

I think the Boxing Rules are called "Queensbury Rules" . I literally cannot believe I can tell my 2 favourite writers something, after they have taught me an unbelievable amount about so many things!

[@Dude0000]

Marquess of Queensbury who’s son was the lover of Oscar Wilde, for whom the good Marquess hated with a passion. True story.

[@luigipati3815]

Greene is right, Musashi is amazing....the book written by Wilson I could not put down, incredible story

[@johnalbert5786]

Yoshikawa book on Musashi the best.

[@jwilsss]

Best episode yet! Thank you for bringing these to us 🧡

[@warlordpriest1]

“The circumstances are totally neutral.” Hard to get to that point, but…That’s a huge piece!

[@raginald7mars408]

... as a German Biologist - more than 10 years ago - I saw the first Videos of Greene - with his BULGING neck veins - and I wondered - is this a sure sign of a Stroke to come. So sad this then happened. He is the most adorable, wonderful humble person I can think of.

[@slikdiszsouljahr]

Warum hat ihn niemand gewarnt

[@raginald7mars408]

@Whispery Banalization. Greene created a horrible STRESS himself to do the super human work. He did long distance swimming - which is mostly anaerobic. He had Stress Molecules in his Blood all the time. This leads to Blood clotting. Paradox. Only with this Lifestyle he was able to CREATE. When we do all to live healthy - we may create too much Stress to stay healthy - Greene is so stubborn - he does not listen to any advice... this killed Steve Jobs...

[@anisboucheneb736]

I would dream for a mentor like Robert Greene

[@gabe13hunt]

I see great potential in you, keep on going.

[@cv4853]

this video is great, i hope you guys make more videos like this

[@leelavathich4589]

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@piratenLjos]

Top 10 duos of all time

[@EddyBuchi]

28:00 On Empathy and leads to loving who your emphasising with reminds me of the book "Enders Game" where he talks about knowing his enemy so closely he couldn't help but love them...

[@nishantshakya5706]

I'm greatful for youtube, Im greatful for the internet, Im greatful to be alive. Thank you

[@j.c.dhalla8352]

Great talk!

[@connorbryan8189]

Loved the mention of Mushashi. In a lot of ways I think he could be considered an Eastern Stoic

[@dentalgrowthmx]

read the vagabond manga, amazing artwork, it's a fictional interpretation of Miyamoto's life and development as a human beign

[@connorbryan8189]

@@dentalgrowthmx oh I loved every page of it. It’s now my 2nd favorite ever, only to Berserk.

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@m.vonhollen6673]

Both men seemed more ready to impart their lessons than to absorb the other’s lessons.

[@rodrigodiaz9472]

Robert Greene is a master

[@IsaacJoshi]

*no one deserves success more than this channel keen to see your continued growth!* *You've got this :)*

[@taylorjanegreen1]

Awesome conversation. Thank you! Would love you guys to explore the culture and reality that these guys are exploring: “journey to truth podcast”. Go team!

[@milesgreen1430]

It is The Marquess of Queensbury Rules...Sirs... Enjoyable dialogue...

[@kkszwarc]

Surviving is winning!

[@bigmig5015]

Such a great conversation! So many great insights. As a beginning stoic I do notice it’s hard to almost become narcissistic about the world and others who are not…mainly because this way of thinking is so much so on a higher level of thinking than the majority of this ultimately primal world.

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@chaddickerson1887]

This interview is like a class on how to be an oblivious hypocrite, by Bob Verde.

[@jameskeating4719]

Thank you

[@anbusiness5368]

One of the best 🤩

[@earthangel8596]

As a child around the age of 5-6 I would have a dream about being in darkness but not Scary. I felt totally content, like waiting my turn. It was dark so that juxtaposition always was odd and noticeable to me because as a child everything that's dark is kind of scary. , and I would snap from the darkness to like the form of a circle and the circle would begin rolling along (I'm viewing it from like a one-dimensional view) ... the circle would speed up and get out of control which would cause the line to wobble in destroy itself. The dream would allow me to start the circle over again, when I did I was conscious of slowing the circle down kept the circle in control without getting its lines scribbled about. But once you took your focus off of the circle sped up and crashed. I always reflected on the feeling of peace and serenity I experienced those times as a child dreaming that particular dream. Try to put myself back there.

[@a.bogdanenko8309]

As always very pragmatic/rational/wise Peace🌎

[@leelavathich4589]

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@idaloup6721]

My practice of stoicism enabled me to harness my emotions as a tool like an actor and then put them away in a draw. A bit cynical maybe but freeing. I realized that the emotions I used to feel were mostly those of others, a manipulation, energetic vampires but not what I felt whatsoever. There are collective emotions which are very sneaky because they embroil you forcibly. Stoicism and discernment is the same, It's all about the supraconsciousness and I say supra because the consciousnesse can be altered by everything we see in the media etc... But the supraconsciousness is unadulterated. It's this part of you that is not in the body, you can call it spirit guide, that knows what's beyond the veil. Gratitude 🙏

[@idaloup6721]

@Sk9epx It's not something that you can explain. It's an experience to be lived individually once you intend to break away from the 3D consciousness which is a manipulation in order to keep you in a mental jail. Don't give your consent and live this experience like an actor in a movie knowing that you are more than that on a spiritual level

[@jamiemason7924]

Very valuable wisdom here

[@leelavathich4589]

👌super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@abramisme]

ok ok another book i am buying lol this was awesome!!!

[@trucking7373]

Very informative

[@hugomarx6479]

Highly recommend : Be water my friend - Shannon Lee Life changing book

[@masonaguirre4064]

Great video

[@blazelandusa]

I’m one year late to this video. But do not fall asleep on the Buffalo Bills. Sean McDermott has some superior discipline himself, keep up the great work. I’m grateful to find you. Oh & Go Bills! 👊😊

[@dougmetcalf3720]

Looks like you retrofit your LaSportiva shoes with Salomon lacing system. I’m the only person I’ve known to ever do this, glad to see there are others who have seen the light!

[@FrancesSchagen]

You can't have more empathy/support/ability to help for someone than they have for themselves.

[@brittbanz4512]

I've just been searching substantial videos on KZbin to feel more productive and feel good about how i spend my time as a 22 year old. This is my first exploration to Stoicism and I didn't even know the word before watching this. Though I'm not that well versed with the philosophies and inspirational people you mentioned, it is amazing how I could still grasp what you were trying to say. I feel that could really understand your points from my own perspective. I'm grateful to have come across this video. I learned a lot and the video was fruitful the entire duration. Thank You!

[@BUILDERtheSTRONG]

Hello, non vaccinated viewer here. How are things? I enjoy your content and wish you well. My question: How would me being unvaccinated prevent others from being vaccinated? If anything it's helping increase the availability of the vaccine. Also, how do we determine what the correct ideology is when neither of us are virology or pharmaceutical experts and may both have data from experts that support each side?

[@wrmlm37]

I think it has more to do with "societal" responsibility, for which, neither expertise are necessary...

[@leelavathich4589]

👍super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@BUILDERtheSTRONG]

@@wrmlm37 Point taken. So how do we differentiate civil duty and blind compliance?

[@isobelgraham3626]

Totally agree, this for me turned me off, literally I didn't watch til the end after that ignorant comment 😣

[@eltocayo87]

Damn Douglas Abramski, love your way of thinking. No insult to the speaker but you ask a legitimate question.

[@stegithilasmou8861]

thanks alot!

[@leelavathich4589]

super speech 👏 #shrisha #shrishafoundation

[@TheHabitMaster1]

I love your conversations together!

[@tradways]

Listening to this in july 2023; I would love to here your opinions about the C-vax as the side negative side effects have come out.

[@Somewhere-In-AZ]

27:28 (I know this post is a year old, but this thought may be relevant to someone). You’re talking about love and it reminded me of a recent conversation. The jest of it was about what “real” love is. My sister insisted it was an emotion. I argued that it requires ignoring your emotions. Love is an action. You are able to DO something when everything in you wants to run away. Think of it this way. Your baby has just ruined his diaper and it’s EVERYWHERE. Your instinct is NOT to clean up the mess. But you do. And you smile and make the baby comfortable and happy. You don’t act angry or put out. You DO what needs to be done. That’s love.

[@acajudi100]

RIP everyone everywhere. In disasters, the body is destroyed, but the soul is released and with us forever. This will pass folks for all of us. Stay strong and ready to defend yourselves alway, if the need arrives. Listen to Marcus Aurelius for your mental help. Stoicism rocks. All of them. Celibacy rocks ladies. Close your legs, mouth and sleep on your back alone. Never shack. I married at 27 and 31, and was a virgin. I never shacked, and I married. First hubby was 8 years older and the second husband was 22 years older, and he died at 67 of a heart attack. We had one daughter, that I raised from conception at age 37. I worked for my income , and my life never depended on a man. I had plenty platonic friends all over the world, and I was raised to have morals. I thank my great grandparents, who raised me to care for my body, and do not be a whore, or have a baby out of wedlock.

[@djkitty777]

@34:16 I think the reason for worrying ahead of time is to force yourself to try to strategize the best ways to handle it.

[@JohnLester-wg5ih]

I do notice it’s hard to almost become narcissistic about the world and others who are not…mainly because this way of thinking is so much so on a higher level of thinking than the majority of this ultimately primal world.

[@John-qi9cj]

Robert is an encyclopedia

[@samstevens9720]

We should be waging a war of opposing ideas, not a war against one another.

[@Ykpaina988]

I thought of tennis rackets where you were taking about swords play . I’m a big tennis player and fan and I believe the equipment and strings are important but when the racket becomes an extension of my arm is when I am at my best on the court .

[@lukeclaydon6670]

Good 👍

[@MintStateMarshall]

I've bought all your books... Never will again

[@soar_dfuzr7514]

Why not? And whose books ur talking bout