The Forgotten Gravity Falls Theories

[@Vailskibum]

Gravity Falls theorizing in the 2013 - 2015 era was insane, I still think it's hilarious to revisit those videos after knowing everything that happened in the show

[@Gadzooksofficial]

I'm a big fan Vailskibum94

[@boyfriendfnf2726]

@@Gadzooksofficial same

[@ItsTorrent]

Those videos were classic. Never forget those times

[@qoobe]

rat for dinner

[@vloggingwithsam4811]

Also big fan

[@namegoeshere5220]

That "Turn Me Over - Now Buy Me" log souvenir is such an actual Mystery Shack joke I can't even. I need that.

[@the_dude_who_asked]

Exactly

[@mxknifefight]

it's giving will wood fall out boy

[@laraalvarezzz2]

​@@mxknifefightomg

[@teajai45]

The “Robbie is a Zombie” theory is pretty interesting in retrospect because of his parents’ occupations tying him to the dead. I think that theory’s worth more flipadips than Trinity gives it credit for.

[@butterflyglasses]

I was just gonna say this ^^ I don’t think he’s a literal rotting zombie but I feel like his suspicious funeral director parents could have raised him from the dead at some point 😗

[@guy-sl3kr]

Yeah at the very least, he wouldn't be a stinky or rotting corpse if he were undead thanks to his access to embalming fluid and stuff

[@ironforged2329]

His hoodie also has sewn heart, like a dead heart that were fixed. That Heart also appeared in the Bill Cipher Wheel. There also two versions of Young Robbie. A nice one and a bully one. Wendy mentions that Robbie had been wearong that hoodie since second grade. Theory goes that he died when he was young, when he was nice. His parents, known as funeral directors and grave watchers raised Robbie from the Dead. He then donned the hooddie. There were also "Zombie rules" Written at the Ceiling of Thompson's Car. Maybe Robbie wrote it?

[@nicoledeberry6698]

Rob Zombie

[@arubikcubethatshouldnthave4440]

i also remember that in thompson's car someone wrote "zombies rule"

[@yinyin8769]

When fans figure out a reveal, what most writers would do is desperately change their storylines last minute, which more often than not leads to awfully written twists. Alex Hirsch however? Decided to create a hoax, and it worked phenomenally. One of the many reasons I love this man

[@OdaSwifteye]

Creating a hoax is a 400IQ move. The people behind ARGs and horror games need to take notes.

[@curtisgoldthorpe6656]

most writers would not do this and also would not care if there story matches fan theroies

[@CairoOmar39]

@aya ! They said 'most'

[@batguy39]

WV sucked ass...

[@PeterTheHatter]

@aya ! literally how lol

[@chancierbeet8915]

Gay ductape is the most grunkle stan thing ever "Dipper, swap that tape out for the rainbow tape, tourists go crazy for the stuff at this time of year"

[@The_Star_That_Died]

Lmao

[@DoorknabVRstudios]

"Why is there a month dedicated to rainbows? I mean I'm not complaining, of course, but like why?"-Mabel "...It's a month for people like your grunkle ford."-stan

[@The_Star_That_Died]

@@DoorknabVRstudios LMAOOOOOO it would be better w Dipper tho

[@MegaChickenfish]

Honestly loving the theory that Soos knew about the portal, it freaked him out because it changed how he felt about Stan, and he got Blind Eye'd.

[@sceptilep717]

I like to believe since he had no mabel or dipper to help balance out his own outlandish theories that he was too spooked to properly digest it which led to the society of the blind eye to erase his memory of the situation.

[@mespencer9607]

I had a Mandela effect about this because I remember seeing Soos closing the vending machine behind him in the after episode clip and hearing that that wasn’t real doesn’t sit right with me now

[@TomoLamp]

@@mespencer9607 I SWEAR IN MY REWATCH I REMENBERED THAT SOOS AND STAN WERE IN THE SAME TEAM

[@remyhavoc4463]

@@TomoLamp How is that even possible? 😭😂 This Mandela effect thing is so weird. Like, I don't wanna believe it but there's too much evidence

[@siqxyre8473]

@@mespencer9607 THAT ABSOLUTELY HAPPENED WTF

[@littlemisslizilon]

the “Dipper wrote the journals from the future” theory is SO good, I wanna give it 10 flippydips even though it’s not true

[@break_the_galaxy]

I want to believe that in some alternate timeline this ended up being true because this honestly would have been a pretty cool direction for them to take as well. I'm happy with the ending as it is, but it's fun to imagine what it could have been

[@Josake.]

I saw somewhere that in episode one when Dipper flips the pages from Gnomes to Zombie, there’s a page containing writing or a drawing or something that later in the show you can actually see being written

[@aynsleyyost5168]

Love that theory too as much as I love Stanford future dipper from the future would have been amazing

[@Rae0814]

It’d create an interesting possible time loop when it’s revealed.

[@JiminPark-bv9ce]

I dont think she'd be able to express herself in that way, she's way too colorful and ADHD, it would be a disorganized mess in my opinion if being realistic, but i really do love the idea of Maple being a trust worthy narrator enough for her to writte. I give it a 10000/10 just bcs it would be a great arc development for her ❤❤❤

[@plantdaddy8925]

The book of bill states that goats are the only creature whos eyes stay the same when possesed. Maybe the Gomper theory wasnt too far off

[@TheOldEverglades]

cool

[@TheAAvocado]

Lol I was about to comment this. But yeah it's cool it may be cannon

[@VurrenAnimations]

it would be fun if they added that as a nod to that theory, haha

[@2haep]

@@TheAAvocado*canon

[@OwenAndyShow]

Nah bro the book of bill is backing up an old theory that probably isn’t true

[@yellowpie]

Fun fact: there was a rough early concept for the season 2 premiere that involved Dipper and Mabel meeting a Dipper from the future who told them that Mabel died. The idea didn’t get much farther than a short blurb shared between Alex and a couple writers, but it’s funny how Dipper from the future almost did actually happen.

[@turtlemine4613]

That also ties a bit into the "Lone Pine" thing

[@cathyschroko8981]

@@turtlemine4613 what's that also you the Axolotl

[@turtlemine4613]

@@cathyschroko8981 It's discussed in the video; the Pines twins (Dipper and Mabel) were named after the Twin Pines from Back to the Future. When the protagonist of that destroys one of the pine trees in the past, it's renamed to the Lone Pine. It's theorized that Mabel will be erased from the timeline or die at some point because of that.

[@lolleeness296]

That would have been the best

[@flamepelt3092]

the amount of people who don’t realize that bill was what would’ve killed mabel hurts my brain

[@AgentChick]

The "Stan will die" foreshadowing is actually incredible because most of it, whether intended or not, tends to emphasize either stan's head, or him being on fire (or both). Which is incredible because he loses his mind in the finale, and defeats Bill with fire.

[@aylinify]

well maybe stan will die theory is about killing his own memories and stuff

[@merucrypoison296]

I would’ve forgiven the stupid clothing swap between Stan and Ford if Stanley actually lost his mind forever after killing bill

[@WOKEchair]

If you have no memories are you really alive? He got them back which would be revival

[@actuallyIDontExist]

​@@WOKEchair DOES THIS IMPLY GRUNKLE STAN IS JESUS

[@ineedzemedic5810]

Oh man. Those 2016 theories were INSANE

[@Splonton]

Bill's mind thing isn't a plot hole, the metal plate in Ford's head makes it so he's just straight up immune to posession unless he shakes on it. Everyone else can just get mind jacked

[@gadiesandlentlemen]

i literally can't believe they forgot about that.

[@elenajovanoska1806]

Yeah

[@orngcreator6115]

Even if it wasn’t for the metal plate he still could’ve gotten by it as Bill technically speaking did shake hands with Gideon to get into Stan’s mind so either way it was a bad example lol

[@Eggnog4]

@@orngcreator6115but if that made sense then that means that one of Bill’s maniacs could shake his hand to get into Ford’s mind.

[@gigisapienza2905]

THANK YOU!!

[@slothoverlord4388]

On the "Why didn't Bill just appear to Stanley and help him build the portal?" thing - they make a point in the finale that Stanley would've sussed Bill out for the conman that he is almost instantaneously. After all, he was a better trickster and huckster than Bill could ever dream of being. That's why it was ultimately one last con from Stan that helped them defeat Bill (seemingly) for good, beating Bill at his own game and manipulating his narrow-minded focus on Stanford to take him out.

[@galaxywolf5972]

Another reason Stan us Mt fave character lol

[@theenderdestruction2362]

Bill is a nearly all-powerful dream demon, but stan is a con man of the best variety

[@ConceptOfCreat10n]

Adding to this because it’s the perfect opportunity. I think Stan actually knew about Bill already to some extent! After his brother got portaled away, Stan turned the shack into what it is today. That required a lot of cleaning up and moving stuff around, and during that process I highly doubt Stan didn’t pick up a few notes or scribbles about Bill. Think about it. Ford wrote all over the parts about Bill in journal 3 with invisible ink, saying he was wrong. His handwriting was so messy and so quick that he likely did it while in distress. I think he probably did the same with other notes he wrote, or maybe he wrote them in regular ink just to get his racing thoughts out on paper. Stan likely saw all this, or just saw regular old notes about Bill, and pieced things together from there. To a degree, at least. In the season 1 finale when Gideon mentions Bill, Stan stutters. He hardly ever stutters unless he’s caught off-guard or is blatantly hiding something. That was really long but I also wanted to get my thoughts out in writing. I just love the theory of Stan already knowing about Bill to some extent. Thanks for reading if you did!

[@corruptedplayer]

@@ConceptOfCreat10n to add onto that, when gideon sends bill after stan, bill shows a picture of stan while he looks like he attacks something. showing that he at least fought back once

[@ConceptOfCreat10n]

@@corruptedplayer I actually originally thought that was Stan and Ford’s fight when he got pushed into the portal, but now I’m actually remembering the outfit he wore and realizing you might be right! Woah. 🤯 Idk what else to say but thanks for highlighting that moment lol

[@lightyearpig12]

Anyone remember when there were theories about Wendy being a mermaid simply because her boots were always muddy and wet? I certainly remember.

[@murris5591]

what the actual fuck Lmao

[@BMoney8600]

I think I remember that one!

[@jacobjamieson8887]

Pepridge farm remembers

[@Elloitslimegoat]

I remember that theory! When I watched the video when I was little I took that theory as a fact and told everyone about it. Little me was stupid as hell

[@cyrvidae]

to me it would make more sense for ford to be a merman

[@matti.8465]

To me the biggest twist in Gravity Falls is that Stan, the shady man who was constantly hinted to be untrustworthy, turned out to just be a good man who really loved his family, a better man than who this idealized author turned out to be. "Trust no one" was never one of the themes of Gravity Falls, but the main idea that the show would challenge.

[@Blancodraws]

That last bit reminded me on to how the whole raremageddon started just because Mabel trusted Bill (disguised as Blendin), maybe the journal was foreshadowing that when it said "trust no one" (or maybe I'm crazy)

[@NormDeMoss]

Trust no one - and nothing, not even your own assumptions.

[@kullaratt.9336]

@@Blancodraws weirdmargeddon happenned BECAUSE OF Ford's trust-no-one policy. He told Dipper to not tell anyone about the rift like, what good does that do? Bill knew about the rift regardless. I thought Ford would know that Bill is kinda all-knowing since he'd known Bill for so long.

[@whichcache2517]

I always thought it was odd how the Journal said to trust no one, and then Dipper immediately trusts Soos even though he just met him and seemed really suspicious (at least to me, in a "twist villain" sense). So for it to turn out that Soos was just a chill dude the whole time was odd at first, but now I realize that the random scrawling in the journal was never meant to be taken seriously, it's just a random scrawling in a journal that should be ignored. Which is what Mabel did when she trusted Stan and wound up freeing Ford.

[@ace-smith]

The very first person he hides the journal from, specifically _because_ of the "trust no one" quotation, is Grunkle Stan (not counting Mabel since he DOES trust her implicitly and shows her within about 2 seconds). If Stan had seen the journal in episode 1, none of the series would likely have happened.

[@alejandrob7492]

I´ll never forget the theory that said Gideon was hiding his defective clone in his wig/hair. That was a thing.

[@Murhuedur]

That would have been so cool and fcked up XD

[@WolfanTerror]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's just something Alex actually came up with for the show but didn't use

[@ch3rr1p1r4t3]

​@@WolfanTerrorman, gotta love alex

[@queendivinity05]

I wouldn't be surprised, he might have a raccoon up there like McGucket did in his beard

[@jturner2577]

And it was actually supposed to be canon.

[@spenceduggs]

Posing as a leaker to create a red herring & then vaguely confirming the red herring on main is SUCH a power move

[@KisuMocha]

Honestly, the whole Bill possessing Mabel's puppet thing would've been so cool since Bill ends up making "Mabel Land" in the season finale. Having him possess the puppet would show that he watches her dreams to know what she could possibly want in her dream land.

[@littlemisslizilon]

yes!!! took the idea right from my mind, I totally agree

[@wingedfeline5379]

just like coraline lol

[@actingblue]

yeah but that would supress bi''s idea of knowing everything

[@christianaustin2349]

But when things for sure I kind of hate them For the Mandela effect because I won't watch Gravity Falls until we apologize us and erase this video or the FB. I raised my house and put me in a coma and erases my mind or at least the mandela effect

[@christianaustin2349]

What are you talking about Who is c j Also i'm pretty much sure Disney This is summoning bill Because of the connected shows and all that

[@electricsheep1506]

The reason soos said boring when stan was at the vending machine is because that is actually bill disguising himself as soos and since bill already knows about the portal he didn't care for it and he was looking for the code.

[@Wabbajacrane]

Really surprising when people didn't get that! So easy to understand and yet...

[@Explodinghairypotatocat]

@@Wabbajacrane listen man i don't notice some obvious details

[@digitaltailsmon4096]

Yo I never thought of that but you are right the twist was that was Bill so of course he would not care since he knew it already wow I kinda feel dumb for never realizing that till now.

[@ghosty8193]

Yeh I'm surprised they missed that, especially as I picked it up as a literal kid.

[@commodore7331]

​@@ghosty8193 a lot of people dont think about it because its reasonably in character for soos to do that and we dont know when he gets switched out with bill

[@tenellefrankland9532]

Mable could just be ambidextrous. Fun fact, people who are naturally left handed are more likely to become ambidextrous because most of the world is right handed and therefore favors those who are right handed.

[@billie-ve_in_yourself6464]

I’m left handed and prefer my right hand when using right handed tools like scissors. Different tasks lead to different hands: eating and writing are left handed, while tools are right. The only thing I’m ambidextrous about is bowling and throwing, which I swap both hands indiscriminately.

[@AnaMaria-ww4iy]

I’m naturally left handed but my grandma switched me to using my right hand now I’m right hand dominant but I played a lot of sports left handed and when I pick up new skills I have a period where I decide if left or right is easier for me

[@infamousboykisser]

I think it would've been cool, honestly i think that maybe since Mabel was such an artistic kid, she might've tried to draw and write with both hands to perfection she just mastered it or something because she just wanted tp know if it would still look nice or smth

[@voodooluck]

This might be the answer, but knowing Gravity Falls I can’t help but think there’s more to it.. even if it’s an “animation error”.

[@whitespider584]

It’s actually canon that dipper is ambidextrous

[@EngineMusic]

one of my favorite pieces of trivia that ties onto the "soos knows more than he lets on" thing, is in the special edition journal 3, the invisible text has a message talking about the mailman that never has problems with dogs, and always dissapears on a full moon. mirroring soos's theory on the pilot. also, i just love the idea of a kinda naive guy that does have the intelligence to notice strange things in the world, but is kind enough to simply leave them be, unless it brings harm to his family

[@recyclable7222]

the gideon being a vampire thing was one of my favorite theories because of his hands. in the show, adult characters like stan have 5 fingers, while child characters like dipper and mabel have 4. however, gideon had the full five fingers, which i guess supposedly symbolized a veiled age/maturity he secretly had. but it's worth noting that in the weirdmageddon trilogy, his character design switches and he has 4 four fingers ?!?!?!

[@safabekr]

Lol I never noticed that! ‘There’s too much going on!!! We don’t have time to animate that many fingers!!!’

[@tangiblesofa]

i always think about that! i remember watching the show as it came out and looking into finger count theories but…. ford has 6 fingers on each hand…. need to look into the gideon fingers theory

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

Maybe it’s because he gives up on trying to be an adult and becomes “regular kid Gideon”

[@ianthecelticfiddlerbastida6604]

The hair is similar to the ancient hair hat from Dracula dead and loving it, so the theory of Gideon is a vampire does make sense.

[@l0rd.78]

maybe the timeline corrected when weirdmagedon happened?

[@masked5940]

“Both Gideon and Bill are defeated by having weaknesses” ..yes.. that’s how weaknesses work..

[@Gloomdrake]

Remember, kids. If you have weaknesses, don't

[@fructiferous]

i would say it's more how defeat works

[@wyslanniknewworldorder9525]

@@Gloomdrake When life give You lemons, call them "oranges" and sell them for 100$

[@Nobody_Here_Anymore]

​@@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 When life gives you lemons, create a sense of scarcity and sell them for $1000

[@BillCipherMuse]

No sh*t ductective

[@cartoonishidealism582]

For the Lebam thing, animation is a hectic process and honestly it's possible no one just noticed it. I mean, I certainly didn't notice it or think too hard about it.

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

Either that or she's ambidextrous. Like seriously, I love Gravity Falls but making an entire theory about a secret clone instead of just assuming she could be ambidextrous is insane

[@sunflower8227]

@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 its a show about secrets and conspiracies, what do you expect?

[@ItsSupercat94]

@@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 tbf this is what happens all the time in this show to figure the lore out .

[@iisbubbles7665]

I have a feeling they had the Mabel file made separate so they could just copy/paste it onto each bottle, and one of the non english speaking animators just got confused ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ like maybe was trying to make it so it appeared upside down but the perspective was weird because they couldn't actually read it. I could def see myself making a mistake like that if I was animating something with Korean words

[@itsClaptrap]

also, if you're watching it live without a TV playback device, there is NO way you would notice it without purposely looking for something like that and being able to slow down or pause the footage. Because even watching the edited footage they made for the "fix", I didn't even notice it was fixed. And neither noticed it was wrong in the original clip. It's just a bottle jumping out of the water, it doesn't look weird at all.

[@internetescapee7950]

In the book of bill, bill possesses a goat and mentions the eyes don’t look different… 10/10 flip a dip dips idc if it doesn’t make sense 😂

[@NoxiousMelody]

YEAH id consider that theory canon

[@Super.Mantra]

I came back to this video to look for a comment like this!

[@nkdubuisson]

im glad im not the only one who came back for this

[@citrusfruit535]

i really like how the book of bill acknowledges old theories

[@crack_soda]

wouldst thou like to live ridiculously? “aye”

[@TheVardener]

I think the Robbie zombie theory would have been funny. Imagine the thematic tie into the first episode. Dippers so convinced his sisters boyfriend is a zombie and is disproven, so imagine if his crushes boyfriend WAS a zombie and he could never notice.

[@queendivinity05]

I love this actually omg

[@mintyreview6794]

honestly when i was a little bit younger i did not fully watch the show so i thought that robbie was a zombie

[@anonomooose]

I mean his parents are undertakers. Robbie looking and smelling like a normal teen could be explained by his access to embalming fluids

[@FortKnoxMovies]

I was convinced of this!

[@Thelucky_ducky]

This was my favorite theory even if i started watching after the show had already ended

[@tykamen5588]

You know I'm surprised that there's no "Dipper and/or Mabel are in a coma and everything that's happened in show is all in their head" Theory.

[@quarantined-evil9145]

i saw a theory video specifically about that i cant seem to find it anymore though

[@plantainsame2049]

Fucking dream theory

[@AshNRoses4409]

Nature is healing

[@tykamen5588]

Actually, when I say that that might be a good thing because I really hate those kinds of “theories”.

[@maplepainttube8158]

@@tykamen5588me too because you can literally make that theory about any character in any show ever. And if the show is in any way unrealistic they use that as evidence that it must be a coma dream. It’s so easy and lazy a theory it makes me roll my eyes

[@comfyghost]

the birth mark actually did become important. the journal 3 book has a scene where ford is explaining gravity falls weirdness magnetism to dipper, saying that the two of them were both attracted to the valley themselves because of their 6 fingers and interstellar birthmark respectively.

[@FeathersAnon]

Would be an interesting idea

[@eglol]

FINALLY IT HAS MEANING

[@jereucc]

"do you think stan would be hot if bill possessed him" he already is

[@Elijah_Kujo]

Louder for the people in the back

[@jereucc]

@@Elijah_Kujo "DO YOU THINK STAN WOULD BE HOT IF BILL POSESSED HIM" HE ALREADY IS

[@sage.81]

One theory I heard a lot after the show ended, was that Dipper and Wendy were standing on the wrong parts of the circle. The theory states that Dipper should of been on the ice because part of his character is him always trying to act cool, and Wendy should of been on the pine tree because she’s the daughter of a lumberjack and very outdoorsy

[@jestrogen]

considering how they swap hats at the end, this theory has some merit. very little merit, but still some.

[@sage.81]

@@jestrogen Yeah

[@sage.81]

I don't think this theory is true though because the circle was made to kill Bill and Bill always referred to Dipper as Pinetree

[@thegamerstg1811]

@@sage.81 when bill turns wendy into a banner her symbol is the ice

[@sage.81]

@@thegamerstg1811 Oh okay

[@coreytaylor8151]

I always thought that the shape-shifter's line about Ford not being himself for thirty years was him mistaking Stan for Ford. We never learned how long ago he escaped. He could have escaped and wandered the town and saw Stan from afar and thought he was Ford. Alternatively, Ford probably had security cameras rigged up so he could spy on the town from the bunker. Due to the older cameras and inability to zoom in on the details, the shape-shifter saw Stan, who was masquerading as Ford at the time, leading to him believe that Ford had changed demeanor entirely.

[@bluerious5475]

There also is just a pretty plausible possibility that Ford returned to the bunker after paranoia hit him to start stockpiling for an apocalypse, which would explain why there’s food for 30+ years saved inside. The shapeshifter would still have seen him out of his mind

[@nadroji6549]

Wait if the Shapeshifter was already out, then why did he return & be trapped? Seems kinda strange when the whole ep was about preventing his escape & if he left once he could have left again. Dunno, seems more plausible w/ the camera angle then the Shapeshifter just walking about when his goal _was_ escaping the bunker. Still interesting tho.

[@aper765]

or because he was controlled by bill

[@MegaChickenfish]

The Lebam one is interesting because: 1) Cloning herself with the copy machine is totally something she would do to pull off hijinks 2) We actually get that "dimension Mabel" comic with Anti-Mabel. I swear he came up with that comic from this fan theory. (especially since it also has Mabel learn a lesson on being too self-absorbed, which some fans criticize her of)

[@freycossy]

Yeah I remember when they released Lost Legends and the Lebam and Waddles-is-another-version-of-Mabel theories really picked up again haha. Wild times.

[@msansop2774]

Honestly think anti--mable was inspired by the lamabe

[@msansop2774]

*lebam

[@austin5809]

Honestly, the Book of Bill does sorta validate the Gompers theory to an extent since in the Salem witch chapter, Bill admits he loves possessing goats since their eyes don't change when he does so.

[@DatHypnoboi]

Funny thing about the whole Robbie's reflection thing, they actually remembered to mirror his acne but forgot to mirror his shirt, so there was some attempt made

[@CalamitasCalliope]

And now the new theory to continue the trend: King from the Owl House is the reincarnation of Bill Cipher after he'd been given one last chance to become a good person from the mythical Axolotyl

[@andrewmanchiraju8005]

I think this theory was more popular before the fandom learned that King’s origin would get explored, but I won’t spoil that. Also I found this strange as prior to this a large part of the fandom agreed that Stanley was Bill’s reincarnation.

[@CalamitasCalliope]

​@@andrewmanchiraju8005 I had actually never heard of the idea that Bill was reborn as Stan, but I love that theory so much.

[@thecrawler1265]

@@CalamitasCalliope the theory was that when Bill was given another chance too become a good person and redeem himself the axolotl god made him reincarnate as a mortal in the past and that the only way Bill could have redeemed himself for all the things he did was to defeat himself in the first place. The reincarnation in the past (or future, past because Bill died when Stanley was in his 60s but also future because Bill is way older than Stanley so old tha from the moment he was born it is the future) is because of what the axolotl said. I don't remember exactly what he said but he said something along the lines of "in another place, in another time" and the time part was one of the things everyone needed to justify this theory.

[@pnkpanther8529]

Personally, I think Bill actually became Hooty, because 1) Hooty is a Demon, 2) He can be very violent when let loose, 3) He's voiced by Alex Hirsch, who also voiced Bill, and 4) It's been stated multiple times Hooty is the Owl House(despite the fact he can leave it), and what shape is a house? A Triangle. Okay, the Owl House is more of a round triangle-ish shape, but still. Oh, also the house has a Giant eye for a front window that looks familiar

[@RadicalGarry]

I remember seeing this theory that the amount of fingers a character had represented how innocent they were. Dipper and Mabel have four, because, well, they’re children, The author has six because he’s seen a lot of things, among other characters. Now, this seems plausible until you notice that bill cipher has three fingers, and I’m pretty sure he’s the least innocent character in the show.

[@maxkalbach2438]

Another thing I've noticed is that whenever Ford is on screen, other characters tend to magically grow a fifth finger. I suspect this is basically just an animation thing.

[@UnsightlyMuse]

Bill actually has four.

[@mrdeadtree9794]

he’s a good boy :)

[@awkwardfreakinperson7936]

@@maxkalbach2438 this is obviously one of Fords secret powers

[@cyrvidae]

@@maxkalbach2438 probably irrelevant to your reply but another example is when Stan and ford switch. Stan has has 6 fingers until his gloves are taken off. Probably just an animation error too but I found it funny

[@RngGm]

As someone that lives in Romania, i can tell if someone is a vampire or not. Gideon is obviously a vampire

[@andistansbury4366]

How long have you lived in Romania?

[@RngGm]

@@andistansbury4366 since i was born

[@Quackervoltz]

What's Romania like

[@lulnara5128]

​@@Quackervoltz Did you watch hotel Transylvania? It's exactly like that, trust me

[@andrewmanchiraju8005]

Just looking at the chapters I remember Tad Strange and that everyone thought he would be Bill’s brother and was actually the goat cause his eyes were weird (not knowing that the goat’s eyes were lines because that’s how goat’s eyes look) I even remember that it was common for tad to be depicted as a rectangle.

[@sarafontanini7051]

hell goats eyes aren't even orentied the same way Bill's were! His eyes are vertical, goat eyes are horiziontal!

[@ninjayajnin]

turns out tad was actually a square

[@TheSonicBros1]

I actually remember this now! They said bill had turned his brother into the goat or something

[@foursidekm]

It's funny 'cause they later introduced a character named kryptos who has some similarities with tad strange. both being squares in the shape of the freemason symbol

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

I partially remember people simping for Tad as much as Bill. Even then, I had seen things….

[@GH0STS_D1E]

so funny thing when I was a kid I thought Pacifica was going to be the llama symbol after her redemption because I thought that llama fur was worth a lot and are known for being nice at moments but still spitting at people so I just thought it reminded me of Pacifica

[@asackboyplush6508]

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@littlemisslizilon]

I love this! Also llamas have hair on their foreheads that kind of look like bangs, so I could totally see it.

[@numbuhbee]

I remember that a line about llamas being powerful or something along those lines was used as evidence for it being her

[@eglol]

Wow! That's a cool connection between Pacifica and llamas.

[@beepboop3988]

I can't get over how the lebam theory is actually kinda canon. In the comic book we get a story about Mabel falling into the multiverse and landing on a planet full of alternate mabels. She fights her evil self, it'd pretty cool.

[@andistansbury4366]

Ah yes, dimension MAB3L.

[@udgeyjudge4289]

You missed the funniest piece of evidence for the Lebam theory - a random shot of Mabel turning around where she looks a little off for one frame. And apparently that's Lebam showing up for a second?? And then disappearing?? For some reason??

[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

I had this personal theory that Soos was a holy figure. Mainly because in one of the Mable shorts he gets a 12/10, then proceeds to call animals to him just by raising his hands, and during Weirdmageddon Soos mentions how he's been helping people during Weirdmageddon to the point where he has folk songs about him. In hindsight it doesn't make sense but hey it was fun.

[@safabekr]

Wait…Soos’ name stands for….oh my GOD

[@actuallyIDontExist]

​@@safabekr please enlighten me, what does soos stand for

[@ynamorata7777]

@@actuallyIDontExist jesus /ji-soos/

[@BluebJelly_]

12/5 ( numbers CANT be in all caps just imagine )

[@sofiamirandadd]

@@actuallyIDontExisthis full name is Jesus Ramirez, his nickname is Soos. Homeboy is literally Jesus H. Christ

[@Meatball08]

In the first episode, Stan asks what Dipper is reading and Dipper throws the 3rd journal away and quickly grabs a magazine and says "oh just catching up on some...Gold chains for old men?"

[@BurstStrike22]

"That's a good issue"

[@lizard1255]

Wait I thought the whole "he hasn't been himself for 30 years" was a joke about Stan actually being Stanley for the past few decades.

[@Pingimaster]

oooooooh good one!

[@fluffywhompus]

How the hell did I never piece that together

[@PufflePufflePuffle]

Yes, Stanley was there for 30 years, I thought everyone knew this

[@leopin6870]

18:13 About the goat theory: In the Book of Bill its actually mentioned that goats are the only species whose pupils don’t change when possessed by bill! i don’t think bill was spying on them from the beginning (as you said, he was only brought back into the world in the second to last ep of season 1), it would be possible that he spied on them later on using the goat

[@emperorkiron3470]

I mean idk, clearly bill is aware enough to know who Gideon is and is also aware of what Shooting Star and Pine Tree look like, clearly he has to get his information from somewhere; he is indeed watching always

[@chorliso]

I was looking for​ this comment @@emperorkiron3470

[@Actual_Real_Person]

I'm kinda surprised you didn't include the "Grunkle Stan is Bill Cypher" theory. It's one of my favorites and honestly has some things going for it.

[@luckythegoldenbunny9766]

They already mention it within the threoy video.

[@callmehotnotpretty1]

I don't think it's a forgotten one

[@capejedi2048]

well it's not been disproven so

[@lilycreeper5246]

All these theories are theories that have been disproven

[@AzraelWolf-vr4ku]

My theory is... Stan is the reincarnation of Bill because both have the same VA, and the same catchphrases, and maybe the reason why Ford has six fingers is because he’s been exposed to weird energy. I feel it fitting irony end for Bill to be destroyed by himself (Stan).

[@zach415]

The Future Dipper theory actually holds some ground because in the episode Dreamscapers we can see a person with the “Pines’ Cowlick” in the background reading a book during Stan’s boxing flashback. Obviously we know that was Ford but I could see people theorizing it was a time traveling Dipper

[@amoureux6502]

I think I remember before Ford was confirmed there was a divide between the theorists with some saying it was proof of Stan's twin and some saying it was proof of time traveling Dipper

[@korvincarry3268]

My favorite theory that i never see anyone talking about is that Bill Cipher won. Totally and completely. Think about it, Mabels dream reality in her bubble is a perfectly fun and cool place full of her ideal versions of reality. Dippers ideal reality is if everyone survived, he got recognition from his family and friends, and he saved the day from a strange entity spoken about in the books. So Bill puts him in a bubble reality like Mabels, where he saves the world with the help of his friends and family.

[@Red-Wolf-Ben]

That's a pretty cool idea! I'm convinced that he at least survived. Think about it, the mind wipe device was supposed to destroy Bill, at the cost of Stan's memory, right? But if Stan didn't actually lose his memory... did it really destroy Bill?

[@jayhelIo8533heIlo]

Woah

[@k1xnt]

I love this theory. Bill said that bubble was his most impressive invention ever (paraphrasing). why would he only trap Mabel if Dipper is clearly the bigger threat. Why would he PUT A HUGE SHOOTING STAR ON IT if he was trying to keep her separated from Dipper (who immediately focused on the bubble saying 'Mabel has to be there'. Bill KNEW Dipper would rush into rescuing her. Perhaps, he never left the bubble. Everything after Wendy winking at him was the bubble tricking Dipper, including popping the bubble. It would explain why Mabels anime boys existed in the 'real world'.

[@TheGoeticPrince]

On top of this, one of the spin-off books reveals that Bill made a deal with a great Axolotl and would be returned to life in a new form if he invoked his name, paired with tapes of Stanley singing "We'll Meet Again" from the bill cipher statue hunt, you'd think the voice messages and clues would be of bills voice, but instead they were all stan. This information is portrayed via a poem in "Time Pirates of Treasure" and reads "Sixty degrees that come in threes Watches from within birch trees Saw his own dimension burn Misses home and can't return Says he's happy, he´s a liar Blame the arson for the fire If he wants to shirk the blame He´ll have to invoke my name One way to absolve his crime A different form, a different time" There are incredible parallels between the two and this is something called the Bootstrap Paradox. In one of the codes at the end of "Tale of Two Stans" We have their father saying that he did not plan to have twins, "Having Twins was not his plan" specifically. @@Red-Wolf-Ben

[@diamondmemer9754]

Cool idea but it's not perfect Staging his own defeat even after he won and letting Dipper live a good life forever is completely out of character and introducing the concept of those bubbles to Dipper when he was using one on him also makes no sense

[@pzkitty6783]

One reason why fanon Tad Strange was so popular was likely that Cecil Baldwin narrates Welcome to Night Vale, a comedy horror fiction podcast that *also* happens to be about a small town in the middle of nowhere where weird supernatural things happen. I'm guessing that's also why Tad was purple, because the logo for WTNV is purple, and it also happens to be complementary to Bill's yellow.

[@smoorzboyzbabeee]

It also reminds me of how Desert Bluffs is yellow and bloodthirsty, kinda like Bill lol

[@draic890]

Being in a fandom at its peak is always an unforgettable experience, with constant speculation, excitement and creativity running rampant. This nonstop exchange of headcanons is arguably the best fandom experience.

[@ocaradasmaoladobokunohero]

About the "Mind Plothole" thing... The reason Bill couldn't get into Stanford's mind without a deal is because Ford had a protection. It's mentioned in Journal 3 that during his trip across the multiverse, Ford met "The Oracle", which he described as "The opposite of Bill", and that the Oracle performed a sort of surgery, putting a metal plate in his skull that would prevent Bill from entering without permission. It's even mentioned twice in the show itself: Once in "The Last Mabelcorn", where Dipper attempts to erase Ford's memory, thinking Bill was possessing him (which was actually a foreshadow to Bill being erased within Stan's mind), but he fails and Ford explains he has a metal plate, and even knocks on his skull, making a loud metal sound. And the second time is in Weirdmageddon, when Stan and Ford are trapped, and Ford says "If only i didn't have this metal plate, we could erase Bill while he's in my mind", which is why Stan and Ford had to switch places to defeat Bill So no, there isn't actually a plothole Edit: I also think the reason Bill left after Ford got knocked into the portal is because he knew Stan wasn't a genius like his brother, so he never actually expected Stan to be able to rebuild the portal

[@Hekskskdkdkskbjsjh]

And Stanley was sleeping so bill could enter his dreams!

[@ItsGemystic]

I think the actual reason Bill never tried to manipulate Stan like he did Ford is because, unlike his brother, Stan has street smarts. He's a scammer, he's charismatic, he knows how to manipulate people, meaning he would have seen RIGHT through Bill's attempts at flattery. I wanna think there was actually some mention of this in Journal 3, but i wasn't able to find it unfortunately

[@cheshirecatstuffs4944]

Also Bill couldn’t show up until he was summoned. Ford was trying to get rid of him after he got paranoid, so bill couldn’t show back up to mess with people until Gideon summoned him in dreamscaperers, so he wouldn’t have been able to help Stanley open the portal before then, and I imagine he didn’t help dipper discover the portal was because he probably knew that dipper would not want the portal opened, what with how he still believed the trust no one warning from the journal.

[@swplagueis]

I don't know if they thought through Bill's rules too much, but the way I always interpreted it was that on normal circumstances, Bill can enter someone's dreams as he pleases to dig through their minds, but a deal is required for bigger actions (i.e. possession), but since Ford had his metal plate installed, it served as protection like a buff to his mind's strength, now all Bill could do without a deal was give him some nightmares, and the rules Ford mentions are specific to him

[@FTMothman]

I thought the same.

[@callmesummon]

Personally I just get “villain that doesn’t need a consistent backstory or anything like that to be a good villain” vibes from him lol

[@mynameisvolatile9208]

that's what it is. When Stanford said Bill needed to shake hands, he was talking about him specifically, the rule doesn't apply to other people

[@boredplayer7425]

I always thought Bill could always posses Ford due to an old deal they made. Back when Ford basicly worshiped Bill and could go into Fords body whenever he wanted to. Ford needed the metal plate to prevent this from happening.

[@thegrandxbunny2073]

Ok but that actually makes sense.

[@fandomaddict505]

I remember seeing the “Finally, *we* have them all” video and 100% believed it. It took me ages to realise he wasn’t actually saying that, i thought he was referring to Ford with it

[@marinosecret7005]

Samee

[@emperorkiron3470]

I love the idea that Stan visualizes everything he does pre-Stanford retrieval is for Stanford, so he refers to it as “we did it” in the same way people who have lost a partner or close family member say we in reference to them

[@eglol]

At that point, believing that he refers to Ford who still isn't actually there, it's a harmless interpretation

[@caseyb8713]

10:20 I think I can shed a little light on this, this episode was animated by rough draft studios. A South Korean company based in Seoul. They are good at animation but they give you exactly what your storyboards say, so it probably said Lebam on the story board and they just animated it unchanged.

[@luongmaihunggia]

Why didn't they animate it inhouse?

[@2-question-marks]

​@@luongmaihunggia usually cheaper to hire another team

[@lordtickledck7012]

@@luongmaihunggia Cause then they would have to pay animators a fair wage

[@luongmaihunggia]

@@lordtickledck7012 😬

[@indigocrayon8717]

7:55 Whoever made this theory apparently didn't know ambidextrous people exist. I'm choosing to believe that it isn't an animation error and Mabel is ambidextrous. Good for her!

[@pandagamer2746]

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT

[@Thelucky_ducky]

Im ambidextrous, and its so fitting for mabel to also be ambidextrous

[@SuperDestroyerFox]

Plus Dipper is also ambidextrous.

[@Thelucky_ducky]

@@SuperDestroyerFox twins!!!

[@rhysorton4531]

Has anyone checked to see if each episode she's either left or right handed or swapping around within the episode instead of at the end of episodes?

[@DrakesTrashContent]

Keyan Carlie, seeing you wear Leo’s Lab Rats suit with a dipper hat has cured my cancer, stopped my depression and helped me pay rent. Thank you for making this video. Haven’t finished it yet tho.

[@Jane_8319]

I was about to comment something akin to this, thank you.

[@Estra_Estra]

Thought you said diaper hat at first

[@JizzaTony]

“How would Robbie hide the fact that he’s a rotting corpse?” Axe body spray.

[@aneonfoxtribute]

There was one other piece of evidence for Robbie's clone that you didn't mention. In "The Love God", we see a progression of Robbie where he used to be a sweet little kid before becoming the emo teenager we know now. But in "Blendin's Game", when Dipper and Mabel go back in time, we see a young Robbie and he's basically miniature present day Robbie.

[@victorygamer713]

That’s one I remember was a huge piece of evidence

[@BranCito_]

Takes me back to my unhinged internet days cause I’ve seen all of these all the theories, the vailskibum channel, the Reddit posts from Alex, I remember distinctly there was a website about the hand witch or something and being very confused and scared by it. There was so many theories back then and it was such a time to be alive I miss this show and I miss all of the wacky shenanigans everyone got into trying to solve this show. Truly we will never have another show quite like this Edit: I ALSO REMEMBER there was a whole channel that was like a reference to stans fez or something lmk if you know what I’m talking about lmao

[@KeyanCarlile]

I remember that dude with Stan’s fez! I remember the channel. I don’t remember what it was called, though.

[@carlosjaimez9028]

I think the channel was called “order of the holy mackerel” idk if that’s the one but I do faintly remember a reference to Stan’s fez on a channel.

[@BranCito_]

@@carlosjaimez9028 that’s sounds very familiar I’m gonna go research lmao I’m so glad everyone kinda had similar experiences to mine like I thought I was in my own self contained bubble with this stuff as a kid

[@BranCito_]

@@KeyanCarlile yeah I remember it not always being related to gravity falls but I also remember being kinda freaked out by it as a kid. I was like 10 or 11 and that ah stuff always kinda scared me back then oops

[@mcdudelydoo3116]

@@KeyanCarlile It was called The Royal Order of the Holy Mackerel. It was a reference to the banner Stan had in the Mystery Shack. It's never mentioned in the show but I believe it was name dropped in one of the games. It could be the order that Stan belongs to since in the second episode Stan says that he had no fishing buddies since "The guys at the lodge don't like or trust" him. The guy with the channel used to do tons of cool videos and even hard merch and stuff. After the show ended he rebranded and went into other stuff but it didn't seem to gain as much traction though. I checked right now and it seems he hasn't posted anything for almost 2 years now

[@MegaChickenfish]

My favorite theory in retrospect was my personal "well, I guess all this stuff about Stan having a twin brother kind of lines up, that kid hiding his face, the broken swing, etc, but I just don't think it'll play a big part in the story going forward or have anything to do with this author mystery I'm still so invested in."

[@Dedi-m5n]

But what is the answer for : *When I subtract your brains from your skull, add salt, and divide your family, what shall remain ?*

[@callmesummon]

And then he proceeded to do both 💀

[@samanthal.8947]

The animation at 20:43 is so seamless and well done! I deeply wish this was apart of the episode now.

[@pringles4368]

On the lebam theory Mabel could literally just be ambidextrous 😭

[@KeyanCarlile]

Ambidextrous people aren’t real, they are clones

[@mothkingvaluedgacha8675]

@@KeyanCarlile can confirm, i am infact a clone

[@laylamorrison9596]

Yeah, last time I checked, Dipper was canonically abidexterous

[@TheeJested]

@@KeyanCarlile my brother has some explaining to do.

[@jordentacoztm]

Could be an animation error as well

[@em.elizabeth7368]

the funniest thing about the lebem theroy is that she already has a twin, to it wouldn't be her secret twin, it would be her and dippers secret triplet

[@Smartness_itself]

51:55 Bill is limited to interacting with people in the Mindscape. However, Bill can't enter Ford's mind because of a metal plate in his skull. Also, in S2E15, Ford uses a machine to scramble Dipper's thoughts to outside entities, so that Bill can't interact with him in the Mindscape. After that, Ford Bill-proofed the Shack with unicorn hair. +Bill can possess people only with bilateral agreement, which is different.

[@TheForgottenPortrait]

Thanks for shedding light on this!

[@gadiesandlentlemen]

thank you for saying this.

[@Smartness_itself]

@@TheForgottenPortrait You didn't know this?

[@Smartness_itself]

@@gadiesandlentlemen You didn't know this?

[@gadiesandlentlemen]

@@Smartness_itself No, I knew it. It just seemed like people forgot, so I was thanking you for the reminder.

[@zalankovacs5047]

18:08 The book of Bill now confirmed that Bill liked posessing goats because thats the only creature where the eyes don't change

[@aurahoneydew9607]

Yeah but that's a retroactive lore.

[@Traumaqueenamy]

Another part of the Tad Strange thing was that Cecil Baldwin in the voice of Cecil Palmer in Welcome To Night Vale, a podcast in the form of a broadcast from a radio host who lives in and talks about the strange happenings in the fictional desert town of Night Vale. WTNV also heavily uses a purple color scene in its official art hence why the Tad Strange (as another demon) fan art gave him the purple color. Also, another WTNV reference in regards to the dialogue spoken by Tad Strange where he mentions liking bread could be a reference to the Night Vale episode called "Wheat and Wheat By-Products".

[@elizabethratcliffe3859]

we do not speak of wheat and wheat by-products here...the secret police watches too much...

[@xeni6277]

Funnily enough, in my language‘s dub, the title of Gravity Falls is localised as Welcome to Gravity Falls, and I think it’s not the only one.

[@digitalartemis333]

I was about to come comment this, the utter disappointed yet hilarious feeling I got is one I can’t explain

[@alienfrograbbit5310]

ALL HAIL THE GLOW CLOUD

[@wavewingman5993]

I think the whole thing with Tad liking bread is much more likely just another gag about Tad liking the most bland, basic food possible.

[@customarymagic]

So many theories sound ridiculous in hindsight, but when you heard them as the show came out, some of them felt so real

[@thatgaiagirl6788]

The thing about Mcgucket knowing about the shapeshifter & the bunker timeline can be explained. We can just assume Mcgucket and Ford made the bunker when they first started working together and abandoned it when they sealed the shapeshifter in, and Ford returned to it after Mcgucket left to gather his old research and stockpile. The shapeshifter would still see him paranoid, and Mcgucket would still know about it and the shapeshifter as stated in the Journals. It just means the bunker is older than we thought - Ford and Mcgucket could have made it as a back-up facility or a specialised facility for creatures like the shapeshifter, and it was only really used as a doomsday bunker after Mcgucket left.

[@HyLion]

To add to that, in the commentary tracks, Alex Hirsch said that they tried to make the bunker and the basement in the shack connected but just couldn't find a place to show that without making it feel forced. Now, even though this was scrapped it shows that the bunker and the basement were meant to be one and the same, which makes the fact that they were built around the same time credible

[@acemagalor2519]

I think that’s actually the stated reason for the bunker’s existence in the journal

[@thegravityguy4654]

Yes McGucket was once tied up by the shapeshifter in the journal 3 book

[@ItsSupercat94]

yeah I don't get why he was confused about that

[@bigbadgammagnome]

I immediately thought the same thing, I'm kinda amazed he glossed over that idea and just attributed it to a plot hole. Funny how he (rightfully tbh for most) dunks on people thinking too much about the show but keeps calling stuff plot holes when there's actually evidence if you just think about what they've established in the show. Altho I admit Bill is a tricky one since he's established as powerful but sits around until the finale to enact his plans. I still think Bill makes sense, except for why he took so long to take action other than a meta explanation

[@zekec.7603]

Robbie not remembering Dipper was foreshadowing for the Blind Eye Society, wasn't it?

[@thegamerstg1811]

nah its just robbie trying to be a jerk and pretending he doenst remember dipper to be cool in front of wendy

[@Thelucky_ducky]

​@@thegamerstg1811both are likely but i think yours is what they were going for

[@thegamerstg1811]

@@Thelucky_ducky i think they were going for what i said when they wrote the episode but it would be neat if it WAS foreshadowing for blind eye so im fine if people think that

[@Thelucky_ducky]

@@thegamerstg1811 yeah :]

[@sallomon2357]

@@thegamerstg1811 I mean, in the dvd commentaries Alex revealed that McGucket's proficiency in robotics in the Gobblewonker episode was just a random gag at first and only later did they expand upon it, so I can see a similar thing with Robbie not remembering Dipper being true

[@KittyOfChess]

The Stan's death thing reminds me of how everyone expected Hop Pop to die in the Amphibia finale, because of a lot of foreshadowing for his death. I guess Disney really likes pulling our legs by foreshadowing the death of the old caretaker character and never actually delivering.

[@ParsureArts]

One of these days they’ll go through with it, and leg sweep us into the void

[@intergalactic-oboist]

Hop Pop dying was possibly the most plausible of the holy trinity of Amphibia theories: Sasha losing an eye, Anne losing an arm, and Hop Pop dying. Anne’s arm and hop pops death kinda made sense, but I’m still fucking bewildered by why anyone thought that Sasha would lose an eye in this children’s cartoon.

[@CalamitasCalliope]

​@@intergalactic-oboist tbf I think a lot of those theories started to gain traction after they showed Marcy getting stabbed through the chest. After that the idea that Sasha could get slashed across the face and lose an eye seemed a lot more plausible

[@Power11112]

@@CalamitasCalliope the sasha one was kinda possible the Anne one was literally just nonsense because people who watched adventure time wanted another Finn I guess

[@intergalactic-oboist]

@@Power11112 I mean the show WAS kinda coming for her arm. It probably wasn’t intentional but I could see how people could read into it. But there was literally nothing for the Sasha eye theory.

[@MisterSlimee]

I thought the bill cipher puppet possession clip was just the actual clip from the show and i shit my pants when the puppet revealed itself to be cipher because still thought it was the actual episode. I really did not expect it, I'm genuinely paranoid now

[@IAmTerrestrial]

Bro I've been on edge since I first saw the Mabel puppets eyes go from buttons to bills eyes....

[@nonstop4610]

Mabel getting erased actually was a cancelled ending for the show were future dipper goes back in time to warn them about Mabel’s death but Disney cancelled it because it was too dark for kids So even though the theory was weird it almost happened

[@jturner2577]

It was a very rough outline.

[@SophiaDecelis-u2f]

How many Mabel’s do you have?

[@talb.1805]

No way dude I do y believe that

[@KiraJ-ru7ll]

WE COULD'VE HAD THAT-

[@ShrutiOfficial321]

Also, did you know in the episode about the society of the blind eye; The memories of Ms. Gleeful (gideon's mother) were placed just a few spaces after McGucket. This probably means that the reason that she acts weird all the time is that the society erased her memory so many times that she went insane.

[@editorsgirl9806]

When I was watching this show as a kid, I thought that Bill Cipher was the author and had turned himself into that form using one of his inventions. I had no evidence for it, but I was 13 and had no idea what I was thinking.

[@CaseyHasThoughts]

So upset you left out all the WTNV bits of Tad Strange! Cecil Baldwin voiced the main character of the podcast "Welcome to Nightvale," a radio show narrating the bizarre but typical life of the town. I used to refer to it as a more intense version of Gravity Falls. The big joke was The Voice from the Seriously Weird podcast would be the only normal guy in Gravity Falls.

[@amandapanda5087]

I love the irony. It's not just what Soos said about Tad Strange being the only normal citizen of Gravity Falls, it gets better when you think about Cecil's voicework in Welcome to Night Vale and the character (also named Cecil) he portrays. I wonder if Alex Hirsch was aware of it and chose him to voice Tad for that reason, and if the same logic applies to other VA's-- Neil DeGrasse Tyson voiced Smart Waddles.

[@witchee3041]

Robbie being a zombie is plausible, his parents could be helping him replace body parts to keep their boy 'alive'

[@break_the_galaxy]

Okay, as much as I definitely don't think it's canon this would actually make a really cool au or fanfic or something. I'm definitely adopting this as my personal headcanon now

[@Quackervoltz]

Would be a sorta cool way to explain the inconsistent appearance between his appearance in the photos in Love God and his appearance in Blendin's Game

[@andistansbury4366]

All these theorys make me think that there is like 20 secret societies in Gravity Falls.

[@snowblossom7020]

Seems like the sorta thing that would happen there tbh. I could see an episode about various cults getting up to hijinks and arguing with each other about petty things

[@lulnara5128]

​​@@snowblossom7020Theres probally like a cult that their only point is eating taco bells with ketchup, Dipper and Mabel wouldn't understand why its a cult, but then the cops show up and for some reason it's actually against the law of Gravity Falls somehow And then theres one that draws a single eye in Doritos before eating them, Dipper would get paranoic about It then It turns out they just find It funny and Bill doesn't even know them

[@buddy3119]

The secret societies are just hobby groups 😂

[@Lucy-uu7bb]

Everything's a secret society if society doesn't know about it

[@PauloJrchannel]

Alex Hirsch is such a genius that he built the DeLorean and traveled back in time to make Back to the Future just so he could foreshadow Mabel being erased from the timeline.

[@Peregrina]

Or Alex Hirsch borrowed some things from Back to the future when designing Dipper? The last name "Pines" could have been an homage. There is also the connection of time travel what consequences and changing the future.

[@alyssaanderson402]

@@Peregrina no shit, Oliver.

[@DualEyedMonty]

51:38 Stanford has a metal plate in his head as anti-Bill precaution . So yes Bill can still haunt his dreams but he can't enter his mindscape for info like he did with Stanley. So a deal has to be made between Stanford and Bill so Bill can enter his mindscape, figure out how to break the weirdmageddon bubble containing him, and win.

[@MegaChickenfish]

13:54 "The Order of the Holy Mackerel" is mentioned in the journal tie-in book as the origin of Stan's fez. So Stan might not be a member of a secret society, but his DAD might be? Ooh! 14:43 Also love how one of them is literally Dipper *in a dream sequence where he dressed himself as Indiana Jones and awarded himself a gold medal.*

[@Joe-rz3fd]

The *Royal* Order of the Holy Mackerel

[@lukaslukas8083]

My kid in twenty years: “Daddy! What was watching Gravity Falls growing up like?” I draw a cigarette, light it and stare out the window towards the horizon… “Have you ever heard the name Lebam?”

[@thatlycantomboy]

i miss this era even though i was like 9. hilarious how bill was just based on the Eye of Providence and yet the fandom repeatedly went “shapes. shapes with eyes” multiple times

[@KatsyFNF]

During "Bill and Stan have history" where you discuss about the plot holes, Bill has to shake hands with FORD because he has a steel plate installed in his head, he initially was about to enter in without shaking, but Ford reminded him the rules. Others don't have encrypted thoughts. About Bill should've talked to Stanley about the portal, Ford remarks about Stan could've seen the fraud Bill was, maybe Bill saw that threat in Stan and didn't take any further action, and could wait for the rift to open on its own. But that's my explanation, Bill did get what he wanted, Weirdmaggedon, so his strategy paid off.

[@TheAlexSchmidt]

TVTropes had a lot of great dumb ones (one of which was my own in fact). Probably my favorite, which I unfortunately only saw after it was disproven, was that Bill's name was Bewarb and that the mosquitoes were trying to warn Dipper about him.

[@samsonm6455]

Ah, I love the Wild Mass Guessing pages on that site!

[@codyryan9789]

3:02 I think what they mean by "real square" is that Tad Strange is a boring person

[@blandpotato545]

I always assumed the reason bill had to make a deal with Stanford was because he had the metal plate which prevented him from entering normally, so he had to find another way in

[@coolbluerays1570]

Alex Hirsch stated in audio commentaries from the DVD box set that he most definitely wanted an apocalypse practically from day 1!

[@The_Gidz]

The full narrative of the series was already clear to Alex going in from the beginning. The cipher wheel wasn't originally intended to be an actual story element, but Weirdmageddon itself was always going to happen and the buying gold bit was a bit of a connection

[@mummytrolls]

The “McGucket wrote the journals” theory was so widespread that I, a 9 year old child in 3rd grade at the time, heard the theory from my friends on the playground.

[@batjackgames6838]

I find it endlessly funny that people took "bury your gold for the apocalypse" to mean that the only thing that could defeat Bill was gold and not that gold will always be an acceptable currency no matter whether society functions or not.

[@Catroo]

“The handyman knows more than you think” I believe that is a reference to the fact that Soos attacks with his symbol in dreamscapers hence why Bill specifically points out Soos in that moment. He attacks not with some random attack but with a symbol that can actually hurt Bill being from the The Zodiac I’d assume Bill took at as Soos knowing what he was doing/about the zodiac Though I suppose we will never know

[@ryanwhittier7314]

I distinctly remember the McGucket writing the diaries hoax, it was my first experience to a widespread rumor through the internet. My 15 year old self fully believed it and it actually made me more interested into the show. Never knew all of these other theories existed.

[@FlashStudios1934]

20:11 the dipper looks taller thing is because Dipper actually slouches, but when bill is in control he’s standing fully upright

[@Fatima-mz6zu]

Istg is like you can't stop making gems, from Lab Rats to Mighty Med, you hit the nostalgia nerves with amazingly creative videos, kudos to you (Also, maybe it was in purpose, maybe not, but the setup reminds me of Buzzfeed Unsolved and that was a nice touch :) )

[@xavierwashington5408]

Watch the ending😂

[@larataro09]

they actually play the bgm buzzfeed unsolved used when ryan explained theories during this video. it’s quiet but you notice it sometimes i don’t have a time stamp though.

[@superkoolrai9911]

Its the buzzfield unsolved music fr

[@connorbeith3232]

I love that Tad Strange just turned out to be some random background character played by Cecil Baldwin from Welcome To Night Vale (a show my best friend was obsessed with).

[@unu9651]

When you said "Bill and Stan have History" I immediately thought of the Same Coin Theory. Basically, it says that Stan is a future form of Bill/Bill is a past form of Stan. The main pieces of evidence are Bill's last words "Axolotl my time has come to burn, I invoke the ancient power so that I may return" and the poem from the hidden disney webpage that can be reached after decoding a cryptogram from the Time Pirates choose your own adventure book. Here it is: "Sixty degrees that come in threes. Watches from within birch trees. Saw his own dimension burn. Misses home and can't return. Says he's happy. He's a liar. Blame the arson for the fire. If he wants to shirk the blame, He'll have to invoke my name. One way to absolve his crime. A different form, a different time." The relevant bit is "A different form, a different time", and how some of it could also be applied to Stan. (Misses home and can't return. Says he's happy. He's a liar.) The cherry on top is the many parallels between them throughout the show, what with the fire motifs, attitudes towards the twins (immediately liking Mabel and messing with Dipper), and the way Stan often says Bill's lines before Bill does. (Bury your gold/buy gold bye, eeny meeney miney you in the first episode/eeny meeny miney you in the last episode.) What I'm building up to is that Bill invoked the Axolotl, the Axolotl was like "Go redeem yourself for your crimes" and Bill was reincarnated as Stan with no memory of the past. It's definitely not the only way to read the show, and it's really unlikely to be completely canon, but it's interesting to think about.

[@nevs0917]

52:05 I believe the implication was that Bill made a deal with Ford specifically that he can enter anytime Ford wants indicated by a handshake.

[@blueberryjackson7539]

A FEW THINGS: - The reason Bill couldn't enter Ford's head without a deal was because of the metal Bill-proof plate in Ford's head. - One of the main pieces of evidence for the zombie Robbie/Robbie clone theories was that the pictures we see of younger Robbie in his parents' house were completely different from the one we see in the episode where we see 5-year-old Robbie. (This one I noticed, but I just thought it was some plot hole and nothing anyone would take too seriously, haha... How wrong I was.) - Ford sealed the shapeshifter in the bunker, and it escaped at some point while Ford was traveling around the multiverse. Fiddleford probably didn't account for the shapeshifter being there, for one of three reasons- one, he was in a panic and didn't account that the shapeshifter was there. Two, he still hasn't reclaimed that specific memory of the shapeshifter. Or three, he thought it was still in the cryonic tube. (The first one is the most likely, in my opinion.) - The shapeshifter's consciousness was probably also frozen in the tube, so Bill probably wouldn't've been able to possess him. (Or maybe it wasn't, who knows!)

[@Quackervoltz]

I always thought Robbie's parents just dressed him up nice and forced him to smile for photos like most parents

[@blueberryjackson7539]

@@Quackervoltz Oh, yeah, that’s certainly possible! However, we see his gradual descent into edginess through the photos, so I’d say that it’s more likely that Robbie’s parents didn’t intervene than them trying less and less to ‘fix him up’ every year before giving up altogether…

[@bubblehbubble]

51:54 that could be the fact that stan is sleeping, ford says "you can haunt my dreams but can't enter my mind unless i shake your hand", bill can enter other's dreams or memories but can't posess anyone without a hand shake

[@silver_fox_pup8713]

the reason Gideon's hair is white is because of a side effect of the amulet from his first episode. In the official journal books they released, it's stated there on the page about the amulet.

[@julia-so5jo]

seeing a survivor reference in the middle of a buzzfeed unsolved inspired gravity falls theory video was a crazy crossover of my hyperfixations rn lmao