Keychron M6 Mouse vs Logitech MX Master 3s Mouse (Which Mouse Is Best?)

[@junechevalier]

Logitech tried to copy Keychron keyboard with their MX Mechanical, now Keychron tries to copy Logitech's mouse

[@kakoth]

MX Mechanical is nothing like any Keychron product at all. Not even close. This is not a negative, they're just different entirely.

[@junechevalier]

@@kakoth Eh.. in the realm of low profile mechanical they are samey. Nuphy is a tad better and Lofree is a tad above that

[@kakoth]

@@junechevalier yeah low profile KB are all pretty similar from what I see. I have a K series and K Pro, both 80%. I don't like the regular K but really like the K Pro. I use it at my office job and it fits the décor nicely as it isn't all gamery which is very cringe in a keyboard imho. I would be very, very tempted by a Nuphy Air96v2 (like 96% of the way there, forgive the pun) but I prefer the layout of the Keychron K17 which is a recent release and I would have purchased that if it had been on the market when I got my K1 Pro. When they upgrade the K17 to a Max (adding 2.4ghz) I will leap on it. I am still tempted by a Nuphy, Maybe ill get an Air 75 for home. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I agree that the M6 wouldn't exist without the Logi MX 3. The guy behind me in my office has a MX keys and it is really, very nice. I would be happy to own one. But its more expensive than my Keychron and I prefer linear reds more than the feel of the MX keys. I feel like the MX keys is a unique class of keyboard, developed to a design brief instead of being overly inspired by an existing product.

[@cccycling5835]

Yeah and I would rather buy the Keychron because I’d rather not support Logitech and their “Subscription Mouse” model.

[@justz9435]

except they actually gave it good specs and hardware. Can't say the same for the battery though.

[@mattia.astorino]

One point to consider is the usage signs and durability. The MX master rubber wears after some months with lucid areas and the rubber itself comes off.

[@colinkilday]

Yeah I have noticed this and mine has started to wear down a bit

[@up23pl]

@@colinkilday Yes, mine too

[@teeraphatduangmarnda7011]

Okay, I got to used both MX3 and M6 for my only workstation with 6 hours plus per day. For my opinion, I think Logitech MX3 still did better job at this point BUT for big huge of price gap M6 is the great option to be consider. With the materials that cheaper (all plastic), battery not lasts long as MX, clicks is not that silent and wheel mouse is loudddd, no gesture hotkey, and not really stable for their software (you even have to connect usb with M6 before setting anything). But big think that huge pros for M6 is polling rate that you can't find any productive mouse at this price range. Good video BTW.

[@colinkilday]

The biggest issue I have found with the Keychron M6 is the battery, it really does not last long at all, but the polling rate is significantly better and you really do notice it switching between the two

[@williamshevr]

The M6 is way lighter + also works with 2.4ghz + allow to just have one mouse for productivity and gaming, the choice is extremely easy for me and 99% of users

[@colinkilday]

I do think with the latest updates to the Keychron M6 having a wireless polling rate of up 4000Hz, Logitech will have to improve the polling rate on the Mx Master mouse

[@johnny2598]

can u use the m6 with cable ?​@@colinkilday

[@serhat1]

If you are a Mac user and you are doing anything advanced like multiple screens Applications where you need high precision with your mouse and speed stop wasting your money and get keychron. I already spent over $1600 trying different type of mouse, keychrone is the only one that works like a real mouse on Mac.

[@colinkilday]

Since I’ve posted the video I’ve predominantly been using the the Keychron M6. You do notice the difference in precision between the two of them and the lighter weight is frowning on me. The price of the M6 does help as well!

[@casecamel6719]

Seperation of infinite wheel and normal version of M6 is quite better since mx master from it's 3rd version had tremendous wheel issue due to its magnetic tech. Of course not forgetting to mention M6 has half the weight that of mx master 3s which users were crying out so loud to reduce. If keychron can resolve some of the issues such as loud wheel sound, build quality etc, I thinkLogitech will loose in the area for sure.

[@colinkilday]

To begin with I did still prefer the Mx Master but I’ve been using the M6 a lot more recently and it is starting to grow on me

[@THZX-qk9fc]

In the long run, the keychron will outlast the mx master 3 for sure. The rubber used by logitech on the master 3 is probably the worst rubber I've ever tried on a mouse. Wears out way too easily, gets sticky and gross after long term use, dimples start to form where the thumb button is. I've replaced my master 3 with the m6 and I'm much happier with the m6. Also don't forget to remove the protective film from your m6 mouse feet if you're planning to use it.

[@colinkilday]

I've found the Mx Master quite durable but what I will say is since I made this video the M6 has really grown on me and I've been using the M6 a lot more than the Mx Master

[@THZX-qk9fc]

​@@colinkilday I think the durability differs between individuals. I've seen people who have really bad wear after just a few months of use. I'm not sure how long you've used yours, but I can already see the thumb rest wearing out pretty badly. I just wished they used the same rubber that the master 2 had. Glad that you're using the M6 more though! Definitely a worthy replacement for the master 3 imo.

[@felipemachado9049]

@@THZX-qk9fc i'm using the MX Vertical and indeed this rubber is crap. I need to clean it almost every day because it starts to be sticky at the end of the day and i'm not a person with sweats issue.

[@lukehayfield249]

How's the battery holding up on the Keychron? I have a Master 3 (same rubber issues people keep mentioning, but it is 3 years old) and I feel like I probably charge it, maybe once every 2 months using it as my work mouse daily. I'd be interested in how it compares for someone who's actually been using both

[@colinkilday]

Yeah the battery isn’t great, I feel like I’m having to constantly charge it! It’s a shame because I really like the mouse and arguably now prefer it to the Mx Master but the battery really lets it down

[@patrickel94]

Hey Colin, how are you finding the Keychron M6 now after a bit of time? I've watched some other videos that have said there are connectivity issues with the MX Master 3 with M1 MacBook Pros and newer with the Ventura Software updates... keen to get either one of these, and probably would be the MX Master 3, but if the lag is a genuine issue, maybe not... your thoughts are appreciated :) For context I'm not a gamer, but work with video editing and music softwares.

[@powky]

I’m in the market of replacing the MX Master for exactly same issue you described… the MX stutters and lags wayyyy too much for such an expensive mouse and it’s making mad since this also happened to me with MX Master 1 and now again with MX Master 3 (not 3S).

[@colinkilday]

Since making the video I’ve actually started to use the Keychron M6 more and I think I do prefer it. You do notice the difference in precision and it’s a much better price than the Mx Master. I haven’t noticed any connectivity issues with the Mx Master 3 though

[@patrickel94]

Thanks for letting me know@@colinkilday. I've gone and bought the Keychron M6 in the end, and awaiting that. Fingers crossed it does the job I need it to! Really appreciate you making this video, as there is barely any online coverage of the product at the moment.

[@Kaeden_Hahn]

@@patrickel94 How have you been liking it so far?

[@patrickel94]

I like it@@Kaeden_Hahn I've not used the Mx Master 3, but I have had a good use with the Keychron so far! Worth a go :)

[@KBTR_1987]

Thanks for the detailed review man. This will surely replace my current productivity mouse. :)

[@vitaliilysenko9790]

Hello. Which mouse is more comfortable in the wrist for using in long time sessions?

[@colinkilday]

I’ve actually started using the M6 more recently and I am starting to prefer it. It’s definitely better value for money!

[@Unknown-qr7mj]

@@colinkilday how about resistant for middle click. i need it for CATIA

[@marianomontiel]

It's sold out, haha! Another thing that I read is that the MX Master 3s does seem to have lots of latency issues when using it on bluetooth (which mac users are forced to use unless they get a dingle adapter)

[@colinkilday]

I'm glad I preordered it as I had a feeling it would sell out quickly. The more I use it the more I like it and it definitely has better precision than the Mx Master 3s. Th only problem the battery isn't great compared to the 3s.

[@gluggy]

@@colinkilday its most def because of the polling rate being 8 times bigger on the m6

[@mattia.astorino]

All bluetooth mouses have 125 Hz polling. The 1000 Hz and more are relative to the wifi dongle usage

[@mflacon]

Great comparison. I own an MX3 and a Logitech Pro Superlight mouse. I use the Superlight because it is much lighter and I prefer a light mouse. I use both mice for productivity. May I ask if the mouse left and right switches on the M6 are similar in pressure required to activate? I ask this as some mice (Apple magic mouse) need more pressure and this tends to give me pain in my wrist after a day of use. The switches on both my Logitechs are fine.

[@colinkilday]

Thanks! I’m glad you found the video useful! I’d say that both the left and right switches on the M6 are similar to the MX Master so you you shouldn’t have any issue with regards to the pressure needed to activate the switch

[@john_squatson]

MX Master feels great in your hand, but it breaks really easily. I've gone through 3 MX Master models in the past 2 years. One had double click after 2 months of usage, another one just stopped moving after about 12 months, and on the last one after about 6 months the thumb button is broken, i.e. if you put your thumb where it's supposed to rest it reads it as a button press. Very unfortunate. Looking forward to trying out keychron m6.

[@colinkilday]

I do really like the Keychron M6, I’ve also got the Mx Master but thankfully not had any issues with it

[@jdsd_]

I am using the Logitech 3s for 2 weeks now and im really unhappy with it. I primarily bought it because of the side scroll weel, but this ********** thing just DOESNT WORK 90% of the time. Its very annoying. The only apps where it seems to work as intended are Photoshop and video editing software. Besides from that, especially in Google Sheets (or browser apps in general) or PDF editing apps, which i use a lot, it doesnt work. Does the Keychron side scroll weel work better?

[@colinkilday]

I've never had any issues with the Mx Master side wheel and I've also never had any issues with the M6 side wheel either

[@rayden7803]

Does the M6 consistently reach a 125hz polling rate over Bluetooth? I want to use it on my MBP 14” so this is a must for me

[@colinkilday]

It's my understanding that it does, but the latest version will reach up to 4000Hz with the included wireless receiver

[@t0m0b0nes]

Thank you very much for this review, I am actually thinking of buying the M6, also because it can be used wired. I need to use peripherals that work over wire. I think the MX can only be connected via cable for charging and can only be used via wireless technology. Could you please conform this? Thanks a lot, best greetings from Munich

[@shravankumarpaladugu7121]

Nah man. MX works while wired as well. 🙂

[@colinkilday]

Both mice can be connected to your device with a USB-C cable. I now prefer the Keychron M6 and If you’re planning on using it plugged it you won’t have any problems with its biggest issue which is its battery life

[@argomedoreds]

Any teleporter issue on the MX 3s? Mine is super annoying from time to time.

[@digitaldisruptlabs]

Teleporter issue here, since first week usage (2 years using it by now). I also hate it so much. MX3, no S.

[@colinkilday]

I can't say I've noticed this issue when using it although I have heard of others who have had this problem

[@junechevalier]

My M6's connection is very reliable. I've used some other mice with bluetooth conenction by Logitech and Razer, but they get a little choppy and jittery, and it's a big problem for me as I'm using my mouse to navigate through various 3D softwares which has so many buttons and menus next to each other. Keychron M6 is very precise and smooth even while on bluetooth, and I haven't had an issue with misclicking the wrong button ever since I used it a few weeks ago.

[@Al_Creations]

Hi there... great video... I noticed you have the Nuphy75 Air v2 - great keyboard - are you by any chance having bluetooth audio issues when pairing all three devices via bluetooth - MX master 3, the Keyboard and Bluetooth Headphones ?

[@colinkilday]

Thanks! Yeah I had the exact same issue but I managed to resolve it by deleting some of the old Bluetooth devices that I now longer used from that were remembered on the MacBook for example I deleted an old Keychron keyboard off it that I no longer use

[@Al_Creations]

Legend !!! I think that solved it for me as well.... Just deleted everything I had connected via bluetooth - connected the Nuphy first and then connected every thing else... I noticed that when I connected the Nuphy it didn't connect it as a keyboard but just as a device.

[@GARN3K]

Hey, do you have any way of confirming whether the M6 has onboard memory? I'm interested in configuring it on Windows and then using it on Linux without the software and I would like my keybinds to stay loaded on the mouse. I will also be switching PCs frequently and may have the software not installed on some of them. Thanks

[@colinkilday]

The honest answer is I'm not too sure. I tend not switch between Mac and Windows too often so I haven't really thought about whether the M6 has any onboard memory.

[@kriiluna9874]

I have both, my work paid for the logitech. I prefer the logi personally just because the keychron mouse feels so cheap and I don't like how light it is. And if the vertical scroll wheel is set to fast scroll it's very easy to tilt the mouse and it scrolls itself.

[@colinkilday]

I agree with the weight aspect of the Logitech Mx Master but for half of the price the M6 has grown on me

[@BenyaminLorit]

The lighter weight is because they're also marketing it as something you can game with instead of just strictly a productivity mouse like the MX. Because for a long time now, a lot of people have been asking Logitech to make a gaming mouse with the shape and features of the MX but they never really quite got that. Keychron wanted to cater that with this product. A mouse light enough to game with, has low latency wireless, and keeping the productivity features.

[@yannikmuche8690]

what are you talking about a 125hz polling rate for the logitech?? via Bluetooth it only has about 60 or 70. And even with the dongle it doesn't get close to the necessary 120 hz one would want for a promation display.

[@colinkilday]

The Mx Master 3 can get polling rate of 125Hz with the dongle but only on Windows devices. The highest it can get with MacOS is 90Hz. With Bluetooth it’s obviously less 🙄

[@yannikmuche8690]

@@colinkilday ah, didnt know that difference. Thx

[@yannikmuche8690]

@@colinkilday even with the dongle it's below 90 (75) on the mac.

[@daisous]

After a month of extensive research on mice and testing the MX Master 3s, I have to say that the MX Master is highly overpriced and not worth it. It looks terrible after just a year of use, and if you’re a designer, programmer, or anyone who relies heavily on a mouse, you’ll likely need to buy a new one every year. The polling rate of 125Hz on the MX Master 3s is comparable to a $5 mouse from Walmart, making it inaccurate and causing significant fatigue when pointing at objects. A true productivity mouse should have a polling rate of at least 1000Hz, which provides real comfort for long hours of precise pointing and cursor tracking. With a 1000Hz polling rate, you won’t experience headaches, migraines, or the negative effects of blue light exposure, such as blurry vision, eyestrain, dry eyes, macular degeneration, and cataracts. While the MX Master 3s and Keychron M6 are similar in terms of ergonomic grip, with the MX Master 3s slightly ahead, the Keychron M6 still achieves about 90% of the grip comfort. However, when considering the overall comfort for your brain and health with a 1000Hz polling rate, the choice is clear. The Keychron M6 will help you feel more relaxed during long hours of work, allowing your muscle memory to take over, which reduces strain on your eyes and brain, enabling you to focus and engage in deep work for longer periods, like 4-5 hours. In contrast, with a low-polling-rate mouse like the MX Master, distractions and discomfort can set in after just one hour of use.

[@minnybiker4505]

I mainly wonder how long the internal battery will last before the whole mouse needs to be replaced?

[@colinkilday]

That’s actually a really good question, I hope the battery on the Keychron M6 lasts because I do really like the mouse

[@talha-cs]

Logitech should really consider adding higher polling rate. Excluded it from my list just because of this reason.

[@izwanahmad475]

Does the M6 has left and right scroll wheel tilt?

[@colinkilday]

Yeah the M6 has both left and right scroll wheel tilt

[@LioEmi]

In Mac: M6 > MX. Connection is everything

[@bobmiah]

i cant find this mouse to buy anywhere in the uk is there any alternatives?

[@colinkilday]

Here’s a link to the Keychron M6 mouse in the UK, they’ve got a deal on currently where it’s 20% off www.keychron.uk/products/keychron-m6-wireless-mouse

[@bobmiah]

@@colinkilday Thanks for the link bro i appreciate it, just bought it but unfortunately couldnt get the 20% off

[@napillnik]

MX Master mouse is kinda sucky. I've been looking for an alternative for a long time. The material sucks. Rubber is soft, and doesn't handle long-term use well. I mean my ABS plastic keys on my keyboard are now smooth, what can you expect from rubber? It's also not too comfortable, as it is heavy, and slow to lift. The features however are unprecedented. The wheel is amazing. But I'd give up all that, as long as it has the 6th button (thumb), which I use on MacOS for multitasking a lot. If Logitech released an MX Master that's lighter, and without the rubber, I'd pay as much as $200.

[@radosawroszewski2692]

why no sound test?

[@colinkilday]

You’re right I should probably include one next time

[@colinkilday]

You’re right I should probably include one next time

[@Jdbdjdbdkdbdjjd]

Is it worth to invest in m6?

[@colinkilday]

If you’re looking for a new mouse, I’d say it is

[@Jdbdjdbdkdbdjjd]

@@colinkilday thanks

[@CrazyBRT]

I want to get and try M6 but feel like buttons could have side flex, design doesn't look stable and it has big gaps. how did LMB and RMB felt?

[@colinkilday]

It definitely feels cheaper and the LMB and RMB feel a bit plasticky but the mouse is growing on me. I’ve been using it a lot more than my Mx Master lately

[@ynnadquah]

Content is solid but its abit hard to catch what you are saying. Maybe im not use to that thick accent.

[@colinkilday]

Thanks for the feedback, I’m trying to work on slowing down my speech/improve my audio to see if that helps!

[@ynnadquah]

@colinkilday keep grinding and improving. You just earned a sub from me.

[@kampavel]

oh, this english is so british =)

[@NOT_A_TOP_FAN]

Have had the MX 3 for 3 years... I love this mouse and I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE LOGITECH. For the last year, anyone with MacOS can't access Logitech Options Plus.....Rendering the $100 customizable mouse useless from that standpoint. Unless you buy a 3rd party app. People buy this mouse to highly customize it for their workflows. Not being able to do that is pretty much a joke at this point....because they keep selling it. Apparently most of the people who buy this mouse never even CUSTOMIZE IT......

[@colinkilday]

I’m not surprised most people don’t customise it but I think it’s mainly because the mouse itself is pretty good without the need to customise it. For the price though I definitely think the Keychron M6 is worth considering if people are looking for a cheaper Mx Master mouse

[@kakoth]

To be fair, Logitech is getting way better than they used to be. I thought they were a plastic trash brand too, especially by the standards of the 2000's but I think they are in general improving.

[@xt486]

MX is great value for money, keychon still needs and dumb old school dongle which gets lost all the time

[@colinkilday]

Yeah but the difference is if you use the newest M6 with the dongle you get a polling rate of 4000Hz were as the Mx Master’s maximum wireless polling rate is 125Hz

[@maxlee6986]

does it has the teleport feature when it works with bluetooth on mac?