Ki11erSix Showed Up To My Stream...

[@sneed915]

this drama has been more entertaining then the past 2 borderlands titles

[@WayOfTheZombie]

My dad went thru the same thing on his channel...multiple times

[@TheBarrenBaron]

MAK has laid down his side of the argument and has given his evidence and testimony about the situation. K6 doesn't publicly prove that MAK's claims can't be substantiated and that MAK is harassing him. K6 actually talks crap in his streams about MAK as a person, blocks MAK from having a discussion with him on social media, and then goes into his twitch chat and stirs up drama. IMO, if K6 was right or in the right, i dont think he would be handling everything so poorly. If a person knows they're in the right, why would they roll in the mud with their assailant? K6 made sure to scare MAK with terms of slander, insult his character, block him from having a discussion, and then has a tantrum in MAK's twitch chat instead of talking over a call or text message. Guess K6 wants the least amount of peope to know how ridiculously immature he is.

[@mrgamechanger97]

There is so much here but a main point K6 keeps coming back to is that he disclosed his sponsored streams. Maybe he should publish his contract where all it said was that he'd be paid a flat rate for 1 stream a month on the official Borderlands channel. Cus if his contract was to be on the stream team and thus the same as the one you were offered, he was essentially being hired as an influencer. So any content he creates is effectively sponsored content even if he wasn't paid a flat rate per post. And not only did a LOT of people claim he's never been paid a dime by Gearbox for years since the rumors started. But they would link clips of K6 laughing at the notion he was ever paid and calling it conspiracy theories. Even if he meets the legal requirements for disclosure, it clearly was not public knowledge, especially to those of us who don't regularly watch his content.

[@Mookie12911]

This is just sad at this point bro. We got 2 dudes well into their 40s fighting about who got paid for a videogame

[@kikboxr-jkd-247]

@MrMookie6209 you've got to understand that MAK was the ONLY c.c that spoke the honest truth and NOT ONE OF HIS "SO CALLED COLLEAGUES" backed him up......MAK never judged anyone for how they chose to earn a living,imagine this happened to you or me,being true to yourself and your followers and someone who you knew was giving a biased opinion and not disclosing something that viewers had the right to decide for themselves........Im an o.g viewer of both k6 and MAK and yes it is sad to see but very happy that k6 finally admitted what MAK had said and indeed has PROVEN this by way of facts.....you've got to respect someone who puts money 2nd and dignity 1st.

[@Mookie12911]

@@kikboxr-jkd-247nah I agree. Shillersix 100% took a paycheck and gave very little criticism twords the game. Hell, bahroo and goth flat out left altogether. I just think this dramas getting out of hand and is childish at this point.

[@tykimikk7872]

​@@kikboxr-jkd-247he also played destiny 2 for a legth of time, so what does that say about his opinion😂.

[@TheBarrenBaron]

I get where you're coming from, but have you ever felt passionate about something and also made a living off said passion? MAK is upset at the way events transpired in a community that he once adored. Now the community is shattered, sold out, and more corporate than anything. MAK had is lively hood jeopardized by what happened to a degree, so wouldn't you be angry too? K6 is the one making a fuss about everything and acting like a child.

[@codycasey4906]

​@@kikboxr-jkd-247 Imho I doubt most of us viewers of said content creators would take the "honest" (and broke) route if we were approached by a company we adore with a fat check or salary on offer to sponsor them. I mean think about it. There are folks across this industry who never get that opportunity to actually turn this shit into anything more than a side hobby. Also, monetary gain =/= a lack of passion in what you do. Burnout is a very real thing that neither money nor viewership can change for the long-term and if K6 was burnt out you'd see that in a heartbeat in his video quality.

[@nuclearsaltlord8497]

It's crazy how in half an hour of explaining the same thing he STILL doesn't get that doing the minimal amount of disclosure is a scumbag move. Like it's hard to tell if he's making an attempt to save his public image or if he's actually just dumb. Had no clue he was sponsored before this whole drama started, hope some meaningful change comes out of this. Because if I had known that he (and other creators) were actually being paid off I would have been much more wary of their optimism for the franchise. Would've saved me a lot of money on the 2022 Tina DLC.

[@saiyansatan]

These are lies. Gearbox didn't pay them the keep their opinions to themselves. MAK is the fucking liar

[@mav87rik]

It feels like both mak and k6 fought for the community but it different ways, mak was more blunt and k6 was more politically correct and had more of a direct connection with gearbox.

[@classicblue]

There is a reason why though and mak has explained it multiple times even in this video.

[@sheriffrick6103]

horse shit how did K6 fight for the community? he took a paycheck to speak exclusively positive about the game.

[@Brazenhead78]

@@sheriffrick6103But hes made multiple videos on problems with the game, in one case he brought this up while playing with MAK, dont be blind, either bring up all the facts or none, dont cherry pick to make you seem right

[@sheriffrick6103]

@@Brazenhead78 he picks small issues to talk about but doesnt talk about the big issues because hes a shill and talking about the small issues are why idiots like you believe hes unbiased get your tongue out of his ass and wake up

[@holdenivy4481]

Nah, "suck off Randy" is flat out wild

[@tuvalupanapa5490]

K6 went raging Soylent NPC when I said that Waaahnderlands was a $10 DLC at best with wokey woke cringe story. When I said that BL3 story was wokey woke garbage (game play is awesome), he wrote a 20 page reply. He called me all kinds of names and said that I was "probably a Trump supporter". He was cappin extremely hard for Gearbox.

[@greatness260]

I like how Shillersix tries to say the dude got fired for calling someone a “bitch” and yet he attacks people he doesn’t like and calls them shit that’s way worse but he’s just fine.

[@Moxsy]

"it's because of people like epicnng who refuse to stand up to gearbox that we have shitty games like wonderlands" Epic the guy that spent a year making redux, the mod that fixes so many issues and improved wonderlands for the entire community and didnt charge a cent for it? That guy?

[@MorninAfterKill]

lol sad that instead of using his status in the community to push for ACTUAL CHANGES THAT EVERYONE ON EVERY PLATFORM CAN USE...he'd just fix it so he's happy...forget the console guys tho right???

[@garrettgames3790]

This just goes to show how terrible the borderlands community "leaders" have done. If K6 is considered a major borderlands community leader, then he has done a terrible fucking job. BL3 is so fucking terrible that borderlands biggest content creator hasn't played in over a year from what I recall. And is currently playing...... BL2, a 12 year old game. Not to mention I'm pretty sure you've moved on from Borderlands content creation unless it is some clickbait video for BL4 "news". This community is ready for some new fucking leaders so we can get the game that we deserve. Instead of hot dog shit like Wonderlands and the joke that BL3 has become since launch.

[@justsomedude77]

No not mom and dad fighting too. Both can be true but he’s enabling gearbox’s shitty behavior

[@fussytoy1924]

I feel like the borderlands cycle is now; bl game gets hyped and release half baked. They nerf stuff, then worry about fixing some bugs later on. Then they stop supporting the game with some bugs still in it. Then people make mods and say thr game is fix and jerk gearbox off. That is the cycle.

[@rsxar]

Ah yes EpicNNG, the guy so soft skinned that he blocks everyone on Twitter who remotely disagrees with his garbage opinions.

[@ogxjimbo4517]

K6 does not understand that taking money for a stream on Monday, with a no shit talking contract clause, means that his stream on every other day is sponsored indirectly as well.

[@Lewt_2B]

that entire sponsorship stuff at the start of borderlands 3 where creators played the game on certain days was really weird to me. at the start almost everyone was in, but a lot of the OG borderlands creators left those sponsorships within like a month. like roo wasnt happy when they nerfed his moze builds, and it kinda seemed like they specifically hit the builds he made. and i specifically recall k6 defending the nerfs.. like what, the entire community hated the nerfs, except those shills. maybe infinite grenade moze was a little silly, but when they nerfed the HELLWALKER? it was just a shotgun that did good damage, there was nothing game breaking about it. they also nerfed an AR that was good on moze (forgot which one), just to release a much stronger version of the same gun in DLC. who thought that was a good idea?

[@ultimatenothing5539]

Killersix would probably gain a lot of peoples respect if he just admitted being paid to feed his family and everything, but then i realise that would get him fired too

[@RyanMK666]

He’s not contract bound anymore can’t be fired from something you’re not employed to anymore

[@AA-sw5pb]

​@@RyanMK666it could lose him future sponsorships with the company though

[@alexpearson8778]

This was a fucking fantastic use of my break at work. If Elon and Zuck don’t fight, I want tickets to this one 😂

[@JackDan89]

ha! thought the same! xD

[@Fraude_fiscale4]

A true clash of the titans cinsidering their sizes

[@Badyours]

two grown ass man beefing over borderlands is the funniest shit ever

[@johnrhoades6214]

Glad to see you back and more active in the community man. I'm watching your videos God I don't know how long. I think i've watched all your videos

[@MorninAfterKill]

got a long one for you today :D

[@bloodbathkrieg8010]

That's what she said.. I'll leave now

[@Lolzrsable]

@@MorninAfterKill you reek of jealousy and I'm all here for it 😂

[@MorninAfterKill]

@@Lolzrsable nah im just here to cause trouble :D

[@CrowFuu]

Just like Movie Critics, K6 cant talk bad about BL because he would lose future Exclusivity and also his Salary from the Company. It is obvious that a man who made his ENTIRE CHANNEL off of a IP wouldnt want to lose that Meal Ticket.

[@locoluc]

i can’t believe bro is stupid enough for taking credit for mayhem modifiers… the one system that completely turned me off of this franchise☠️

[@JBleauOst]

To be fair, he was talking about mayhem 11 specifically which doesn’t have any modifiers and he said he thought it was better than having them. Not supporting his case here but to be objective…

[@botronas6039]

Mayhem 11 has no modifiers and he said he and the community asked for it until they got it (he himself has said that he almost quit because of the modifiers)

[@locoluc]

@@botronas6039idgaf if there’s no modifiers mayhem levels shouldn’t exist in the first place and the community should’ve made it clear that we never want that shit ever again.

[@botronas6039]

@@locoluc Yeah nobody liked or likes modifiers, the compromise was m11, but im not sure why they didnt give the option of playing any mayhem level without the modifiers (for less loot of course)

[@moneybilla]

​@@locoluc the fact you edited your comment and added a period but was to mentally ill to add a damn comma 😂😂

[@905JimRaynor]

i want a Borderlands 1 type story line. A story line similar in feel to a Mad Max story line.

[@Badyours]

bl1 has almost no storyline tho, if they make another game like that it will most likely fail, they should make an actual good story like bl2

[@905JimRaynor]

@@Badyours it has a great story. The heel turn by Tannis is epic. Steele getting knifed in the back is wild. TK Baha was cool. And that slime bucket Kincaid profits from all the chaos. All in a Mad Max type world. Just wild!

[@Thatguycrimson1312]

Im surprised that killersix didn't get banned from his stream via mod or MAK himself at that point in time, because I can assure you if he did that in other channels he'd be banned immediately or less than a minute to 5 minutes

[@MorninAfterKill]

I dont censor people. If you got something to say then say your peace :D

[@Thatguycrimson1312]

I honestly can't fathom why people gotta do this childish bullshit when they can do the more sensible thing and talk shit out LIKE ADULTS, but for some people it's too hard, no shade towards you MAK and also keep up the good work on videos homie much love and appreciation

[@tf3israel584]

@@MorninAfterKill Tell that to my comments that you deleted. Morninaftershill. 🤡

[@JoshuaGraves113]

@@MorninAfterKill Respect.

[@Hajo87-tz7hz]

​@@MorninAfterKillcool👍

[@Andyd33]

It would be one thing if Shiller could just be a man and own up to his mistake but it’s clear he wants to continue his behaviour

[@OokamiPuzzle]

How is he gonna block you but come to your stream to talk to you? Thats kinda lame for real He blocks you so you won't see what he says about you but goes to you to tell you not to talk about him? What a ballmaster

[@ageidyne]

I love how MAK came back just to wreak havoc 🤣 it is quite sad what the BL community has come to though, I never thought I’d see such prominent BL creators clash like this lol. Why can’t it just be like the old times

[@heydude8653]

Cuz money

[@Maggie181999]

Ooo, 30+ min. i found what imma watch while i eat my dinner.

[@misterbrightside1245]

"would you like him if he was" was a god tier comment props to sonarix 7:24

[@IamVury]

Man I've been gone since tiny tina came out... I've been a subscriber since bl2 for literally over a decade... and I agree with you mak... I've been a supporter on twitch and more..... k6 is wild man and to once see someone I watched go this route....he made videos that weren't honest and acting like it was good.

[@KellysHeroes777]

How embarrassing for K6. Just making himself look like an idiot

[@pinepickle9210]

I understand why k6 is upset but the bottom line is he made videos that weren't honest instead of making these recommendations in videos he needed to talk to his connections at gearbox and say the game is not going to survive if these changes aren't made and they need to do better but instead he was complacent in gearbox's bad management of the game.

[@mattthompson3714]

He chose the hill, let him rest on it

[@dakotadrummond3258]

He literally released a video when Borderlands 3 was legitimately unplayable and listed many of the communities problems. All issues he listed got heard and literally within months they made the game 10 times more replayable??

[@pinepickle9210]

​@@dakotadrummond3258Well he clearly didn't say enough if they listened he should've said more about nerds lag and option to turn off modifiers instead of being forced into the hardest version of the game if you don't wanna play with them more characters not more skill trees more fun activities better drop rates those were the things we needed

[@SlugRiot]

Shiller6 out here blocking you but still showing up to the stream... idk if that makes him brave or a creepy stalker

[@locoluc]

MAK’s in his head FOR SURE💀💀

[@memedealer171]

It's pretty interesting to see ki11erSix swallow his pride just to show up to tha stream and get his feelings hurt.

[@Mornings]

its wild how mad dudes get over video games lmao 15 years ago this type of thing would be a comedic skit

[@moneybilla]

They're fighting cause 6 broke a federal law, by not disclosing it you dumbass

[@trumpetyboy4341]

I was wondering if it even stated in his youtube videos if he was sponsored in his description n such. Since he was paid it’s technically a federal law hes breaking by not disclosing clearly like you mentioned if memory serves me right. I mean its enough evidence for a fine and potential jail time if it went to court

[@RyanMK666]

k6 about to be hit with A LOT of lawsuits if that’s the case 😂

[@mathatter9158]

Dude this makes K6 look really really REALLY BAD!

[@smokeythebandit3327]

Mak looking thick af(=

[@heydude8653]

Honestly not hyped on K6. Used to like the guy too but yea. Shills aint great. Homie should have said this shit years ago when it needed to be told to Gearbox. Homies full of excuses been hanging out with fukkin 12 year olds too long 😅. Man up dude. He was not a good leader for the community imho.

[@thatoneguy.788]

Just glad that someone is standing up to this.

[@GodofWarChuka]

Damn. I have to bust my ass full time for $3-$4K a month. I’m definitely going to Unsubscribe from Killer 6.

[@wizardkingdarkness8473]

Caught onto this late but got to say it’s nice seeing some old school KZbin back on the platform even if it is just this short little arc way more entertaining than anything that happened on KZbin the past like 6 years

[@gadrielvanorion9872]

funny he is insulted by slander yet he likes to do pretty much the same shit

[@Woodi_FPS]

K6 living in some gaslighting copiumland

[@daltonwillis4587]

Until your videos I did not know he was payed.

[@epicdillweed]

After watching his videos I still don't care that he is paid.

[@daltonwillis4587]

@@epicdillweed I don’t care either, it doesn’t affect my life at all. However, it would’ve been nice to know.

[@s3xyt3xy81]

honestly mak glad your back man hopefully you remember me you edited a joint out of my mouh in my profile picure once cause my mom asked lol and ill forever remember that to this day

[@DarkPhoenix671]

Shiller6 will never get old

[@mathatter9158]

MAK’s best line was “where is your video showing what you didn’t like about the game at that time. Oh it’s stapled to the back of that $3000 paycheck.”

[@USCGJAMESBENETEAU]

look i am sure this drama will help metrics but man in the end is this shit worth it. You vindicated your side of the story for sure and you are back on that grind man. I would talk to a lawyer now that he is throwing legal terms like Slander around.

[@MorninAfterKill]

if he takes me to court then I can get him to disclose the contract he signed with 2k/Gearbox since he's acknowledged the existence of a non-disparagement clause in this stream. acknowledging the existence of a clause in the contract would be grounds for legal disclosure of the document...allowing me to take action against 2k and Gearbox for breaking FTC regulations :D

[@evillp12]

@@MorninAfterKill OH SHIT, get em mak!

[@ultimatenothing5539]

bro the argument between realtawk and toole was better than the whole video

[@b0neyard8230]

Sometimes I wonder what Yoteslaya would have had to say about the game as it evolved, for better or worse

[@RyanMK666]

May he rest well.

[@RyanMK666]

Thing is though I can easily imagine him being one of the biggest voices against epics and gearboxes awful choices. He loved this series far to much and put his soul into it. He wouldn’t stand for the bs that’s become of some of the community, and the dumb gearbox epic decisions.

[@dorianrpg]

MAK just came out swinging for the fences, dude I think that one landed in my backyard lol

[@rickster5224]

"stop talking facts or I'll get mad and act like I'd do something if this monitor wasn't between us" - k6 probably

[@littlesculll]

This is great to see and very sad at the same time from both sides 😂😂

[@LG-gd7lo]

Fr its entertaining but sad, mostly on the account of k6’s greedy ass😂

[@tf3israel584]

@@LG-gd7lo Morninaftershill is worse.

[@evillp12]

@@tf3israel584 huh? please tell me one good reason to why mak is a shill fuck outta here k6 fanboy

[@rileyyy01]

All I hear is someone mad he didn’t get paid to play a game he doesn’t like lmaoo

[@makethemscared]

i only saw half the video earlier but DAMN you absolutely violated him the only thing that would've topped it all off is if you made a badakadonk joke because he seems to make one in nearly every video but im sure hed take credit for that too

[@captainziggy82]

lmfaoooooo I’m crying at the thumbnail alone

[@tuvalupanapa5490]

The Mayhem modifiers suuuuuucked.

[@MaxRamos8]

I'm no paid shill, BL3 isn't shit. Just ignore the freaking story. Just wish it had more playable vault hunters imo.

[@az_street_walker4181]

You’re forced to listen to the god awful writing and dialogue I agree the gameplay feels good but everything you listen to is dogshit the villains are Ass it’s all around bad and makes the session of play awful regardless of the sliding vaulting and smooth gunplay it gets thrown out the window every time a character in the game opens their mouth so it’s unfortunately shit idk where bl1&2 writers went in between 2&3 but they need those Mfs back

[@slorbonmyknorb777]

Shillersix talks shit like he didnt break the law over not disclosing the connection and payment from gearbox👀

[@ComfiCharlie]

respectfully all mak does recently is chat shit about the game a little then chat shit about his fellow creators about shit that dont even fucking matter

[@caelenthehuman3256]

This video is sad to watch. This whole goddamn saga is sad to watch. I used to binge K6, how the mighty have fallen. Sad to know hes an overly defensive shill

[@Glorpus]

K6 doesn’t seem to understand that even if it’s only in the contract for specific things he SHOULD disclose his involvement with 2k. Every video from that year and however long the contract lasted should’ve come with a intro explaining that he has to have some bias due to financial gain by but… he didn’t. That’s some scum behavior and misleads the KZbin onlys. He said he did disclose it on twitter and stream but… where was it for KZbin? Nowhere

[@dreamconciousness4522]

He was paid, so what? This is a mountain being made out of a molehill, "Im a grown ass man" yeah, clearly a narcissist with a touch of insanity, you gonna come after rude comments too because you don't like them even though they're not illegal? Grow a pair , I don't like k6 and I don't like you but this is funny that you're thinking this actually matters

[@RyanMK666]

Federal law states it clearly matters since he never disclosed it in KZbin videos about being sponsored.

[@moneybilla]

It's a federal law you dumbass kid, it dont matter wtf mak thinks😂😂

[@ericousleyjr9119]

Mak...been a loooong time fan. Was following you and Yoteslaya at the same time. I don't comment much. But as a fellow New Jersey boy I've always loved your content.

[@metroschannel]

Ohhh I don’t like drama… can’t we just enjoy playing borderlands together as a family? 😅 it would be better to talk on the phone with the people you have beef with, this beef will never end other wise. Trust me, I have experience with this.

[@TheBarrenBaron]

K6 is the one who's going around behind people's backs and then blocking people. MAK would have an open discussion if there was need for one. K6 is lying and saying MAK is in the wrong for pointing out that he sold out. There's no open "beef" with joltz is there?

[@snoopystock6928]

I dont understand the hate for killersix. Decent guy, good content, he constantly trashed on bl3 so i dont understand why people are saying he didnt, hes also just one guy so blaming the downfall on him is dumb. Im not hating on anyone im just confused. Help me understand

[@thelawlessone666]

Yeah I specifically remember seeing him complaining about the nerfs during bl3s early life. Idk what mak means when he tired to say k6 didn’t call them out

[@TheBarrenBaron]

Nobody or at least the majority are not calling K6's character into question, nor calling his content into question. Nobody wants to see K6 fail or wants harm to him. The reason their is drama between MAK and K6 is because of the way events transpired in the BL community and the dynamic that content creators like MAK, K6, Joltz, etc hold. MAK is upset with the game and the direction it has been taken into, but was thrown to the wolves by K6 and the rest of the content creators. They denounced MAK and acted like BL3 was just peachy or would sugar coat their complaints, so they could stay on pay roll. MAK was then harassed by Gearbox and 2k when he spoke up about the top community members having their opinions bought out. Now K6 is trying to act like either nothing like that happened or that he's not a sellout, when in fact he sold out to 2k/gearbox. K6 isn't being honest about the situation and then acts like a jerk on his streams bad mouthing MAK because MAK exposed that K6 was in fact bought out. All K6 has to do is just admit that he soldout, he was sponsored, and go about his life. MAK is calling out bs, not harassing him.

[@moneybilla]

​@@TheBarrenBaron nah man honestly I think the community would be better if k6 just disappeared, we don't need some dumbass who won't even legally acknowledge a god damn sponsor 😂

[@moneybilla]

​@@TheBarrenBaron the federal government also should investigate him due to the illegal nature of not disclsoing sponsors 😂

[@MiniNoahTheWorm]

Yo this conversation was insanely braindead I'm not gonna touch this any more than this comment, youtuber drama never changes

[@ultimatenothing5539]

MAK and k6 there is only one way to settle this, a rap battle

[@OokamiPuzzle]

I agree LETS GET READY 2 RUMBLE I SAY!

[@Fl4kTheTerminator]

😂 when K6 said I don't have to be here to talk to you sound butt hurt from a grown men 😂

[@MorninAfterKill]

lol right? like I never asked you to be here at all...FOHWTS

[@mmfb3024]

i thought it was very condescending

[@thatguy5697]

should have saw the writing on the wall when they made bl pre sequel. The first dlc wasn’t even actual content you literally couldn’t farm bosses on release

[@MorninAfterKill]

Whale then...the other day EpicNNG released a Tweet Hit Piece sticking up for KillerSix and it puffed up his chest enough to FINALLY COME HAVE A CONFRONTATION!!!

[@Eggnificent]

He needs to put the gloves on and go 10 rounds.

[@littlesculll]

Views ?????

[@elijahfriesen8111]

Bet k6 or epicnng felt like will smith sticking up for G.I Jane

[@Eggnificent]

11111111

[@GullibleAbjabGames]

I don't think either of you were acting like adults here. You should have a mature conversation and hear eachother out. But talking about "do something about it" is.... Childish. I'm sad to see you like this. I miss when you did your road to 30 and I really felt your story. You should be better than to yell and threaten/name call other creaters MAK. From an OG fan.

[@MorninAfterKill]

where I come from when someone says KEEP MY NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH it usually implies that there's a threat along with it.

[@GullibleAbjabGames]

​@@MorninAfterKillyou don't need to stoop to their level man! It's the internet, he's not in your face. Maybe that's just me. And I'm not you, so I don't know all of the history. I'm sure it's more complex than it seems. But take the high road man, you'll always come out on top.

[@MorninAfterKill]

@@GullibleAbjabGames but...I want him to show up to my house :D

[@GullibleAbjabGames]

@@MorninAfterKill haha you do you man. I've said what I wanted. I'll keep watching and supporting you regardless. Have a good night 🫡

[@cannandreas]

It cuts out towards the end, is there anything else said after of interest?

[@MorninAfterKill]

lol nah just me telling him to call keemstar to fight me in a boxing match if he really feels that salty about it :D

[@vakiova103]

"Your gonna look so bad just constantly crying about me dude." The comments: "Lets clown on this dumb ass."

[@CrossStCroix-no6dv]

and the truth shall set you free

[@maxturbo45]

I gotta agree, its not wrong to be sponsored by a game/company and point out possible problem or quality of life patches that can be fixed, hes not bad mouthing the game, hes just trying to come up with possible solutions that some people might have a problem with in the BL community, i like both creators and its hard to see two people i like arguing about something small, its just easier to find a common understanding as to what both parties want or a solution that would make both parties involved somewhat content instead of bickering about hashtags and sponsor streams, i dont see how arguing is going to SOLVE this situation for both sides...

[@blazeesq2000]

I thought Bahroo got fired for allegedly cheating during the hunt. I thought Goth just quit because he was more into Destiny 2 and Zelda. At the end of the day. I hate to see two friends fighting like this. I am sure you can find a way forward even if you are both heated right now and throwing out personal attacks. But, sometimes a good fight between friends is hopeful because that's where it all comes out. Good luck gentlemen. I don't have a dog in this fight. I hope friendship, and dare I say love, prevails.

[@erronblack308]

K6 and others are the actual reason borderlands is bad now. He and many more are to blame. The way forward is k6 admitting the garbage he has caused.

[@makethemscared]

epid nng and killer are the reason why borderlands is the way it is, they're both trash people lmao it took killer THIS long for him to finally stand up for himself? if he really wasnt paid by gearbox it not only wouldn't take a month for a response but he also wouldn't have gotten so offended to the point he cleared out hundreds of comments of people calling him out for lying

[@ultimatenothing5539]

guys what did epicnng even say, ive tried to view it on his twitter and nothing shows up

[@thycactusking]

There was many videos of him saying shit like he didnt like the nerfs. I seen them.

[@spartan_xbox7169]

I’m just now finding out about all of this happening. My question is, is joltsdude still a trustable streamer or not anymore?

[@billprotos2560]

Joltz hasn't touched bl3 for years and didn't even bother playing Wonderlands on stream at all. He streams different challenging bl2 playthroughs

[@breakfaith3031]

9 months later and joltsdude is still focused primarily on doing challenge runs in the first two games. I think it's safe to say that he isn't like shiller6.

[@justanegsfan]

i had no idea how bad things had gotten, been watching you since i was 9 years old and 10 years later ill still be on your side and support you mak

[@jlsaproductions]

good to see mak sticking to what he believes in good shiit keep it up

[@marvintehrobot5467]

This is why the only person I watch for bl content is joltz. I tune into MAK every now and then because he's an OG and has pretty much always kept it real, but I like joltz mostly because he a) is not a shill and didn't take the contract and b) he keeps himself away from all the drama

[@MorninAfterKill]

Joltz took the contract too btw but he disclosed it on his stream titles when he played Borderlands 3. K6 did not.

[@Sniperjones_007]

@@MorninAfterKilleither way Joltzdude doesn’t play BL3 and strongly advocates that it is a terrible game. I respect that as well as his transparency. People need to stop believing this game can be saved. All we can do is voice our concerns for future BL games and hope they take that into consideration

[@MorninAfterKill]

@@Sniperjones_007 my WHOLE POINT isnt that people got paid...i dont care if you made money...but when you let that money pay you for your silence or ignorance then you're a shill. Joltz I have no issue with because he was open about his relationship with 2k/Gearbox at the time.

[@Sniperjones_007]

@@MorninAfterKill I hear you. I’m right there with you. The way Killer did things was unethical. I’d gladly trade Killersix to bring back Yote. No doubt he would be an open advocate for change for the community like you have been

[@GrayestCell]

​@@Sniperjones_007 let yoteslayer rest. Hed turn his back to this game like Shillers6x turned on all of us ( me included)

[@thelawlessone666]

The writing in 3 is so bad to the point I mute the dialogue. But gameplay wise it’s just better than 2. Bl2 late game consisted of the same 3 guns with little to no build diversity. I played and watched content on 2 for years. I can’t really go back and make an op8 character anymore cause late game is so boring

[@supasem]

This is gold. This is the content I want in my feed.

[@ineedmoneysp]

Killer six is making himself look bad trying to explain. There’s proof he didn’t say anything bad about the game in the beginning but will now say what needs to be fixed.

[@flipbroski639]

Dude wants to take credit for mayhem 11(which he did push for) but then trys to say "you think i can change the game?" Also he was public about wanting it changed. Thats why it did! The closer talks with devs were just so he'd keep his mouth shut. Its ridiculous that he acts like his silence wasn't bought. He took the bag. Thats fine but don't act like it didnt change the way he talked about the state of the game and knowingly mislead the community.

[@kamiyal]

ngl. dying to any boss in BL3 normal is embarrassing

[@billprotos2560]

Since when did a PVE co op game turned out to be competitve all of a sudden. I don't get it

[@custommizerOG]

I saw his review on new tales and got excited. But now seeing others talk about it, I dodged a E-tech launcher shot frr

[@MaxRamos8]

It's the last 2 episodes that made it plummet, the first 3 are pretty good

[@custommizerOG]

@@MaxRamos8 I watched Eruption Fangs play through, and I disagree

[@michaelrowe5896]

Keep it up. Been watchin your vidjias for long time. Always wondered what happened to bahroo! Wtf oh well... Nice entertaining video as always Jay thank you 👀👀

[@Techo333_]

I'm sorry I am a fan of you both but there's is no way in hell you're a better content creator than k6. That's just a fact bucko I mean you can say what you want but nothing even puts you anywhere near him or joltz your channel has been basically dead for years now and you were only relevant for half of bl2s life cycle to begin with. I'm a veteran player of the series and have watched many hours if not days of y'all's videos and he's just much more entertaining tbh.

[@MorninAfterKill]

I respect your opinion on that...but the fact that all the better players left Borderlands 3 and K6 was left to steer the ship is the reason Borderlands 3 is in the state its in.

[@Techo333_]

@@MorninAfterKill i mean that can also be the fact that more people just prefer the less frequent drops as opposed to bl3 but the main criticism you have is that k6 has never critiqued the game and that's just wrong he has given his dislikes all the time. Also why would someone who has neglected the game almost completely until recently care it's not like you're actively working towards making bl3 better than it is already and I'm sorry I just don't understand the big hoopla about bl3 when let's be honest the biggest complaint is the story and if we all let the nostalgia fade from bl2 it's almost as bad as 3 and that's just a fact I mean for Fuck sakes the vault hunters literally are ambushed by handsome jack and next thing they do is line up with a group of rogue killers who you don't know if you can trust as you just met them and was already bamboozled before and decide to kill jack with them even though nothing besides maybe some innocent killings which with the lore of pre sequel and part 1 isn't that big of a deal makes them better of people than handsome jack himself. Let's face it I think all the story's of borderlands suck are given to much credit outside of the pre sequel otherwise the vault hunters are just mindless killers and gun for hire which just leaves us with gameplay and graphics and bl2 just can't compete there. I mean honestly if you're playing a borderlands game for the story you already are in the wrong game and I've been playing borderlands since I was a kid and I can admit that. I think people like you really overblow the problems of bl3 as a whole as another complaint was that bl3 is too easy when so is bl2. C'mon seriously they had to add a whole ass dlc to make it somewhat challenging but anyone with basic fps skilifi and a brain isn't gonna have a hard time at all especially if you're able to read lol I mean even when I was a kid grinding this game and I never struggled. Then the way you basically just started saying k6 was bad at that game just kinda made you come off as childish tbh I mean for what does that give you? It's a story game who gives a shit. Again I do like both of you but as a fan of you I'm just saying these past videos just seems like a endless wave of things no one really cares about

[@mtp1213]

I cannoy believe killer6 thinks hes intimidating what a bozo

[@nodrog907]

I want my 30 minutes back sad to see the guy who got me into this awesome franchise rant like a baby 👶

[@mindlessdamage1521]

yeah, im also sad to see K6 bullying smaller youtubers in DMs, what an icon and community leader...

[@matttheradartechnician]

Damn Mak you didn't have to cook him like that xD

[@AkiSan0]

Awww. Shiller-chan uses the same phrase as cuck-kun. i wonder why. :D

[@Reviverey]

I really want to see like a legit dialogue between these guys. I don't mean make up and be happy, i mean i want Presidental debate levels of hate and slander thrown. Creator clash?

[@dantheguy3303]

Fuck yeah creator clash, I'd pay for it

[@ZombieATAT]

I remember when Kizz made K6 content before K6 turned up. R.I.P. Yote

[@metroschannel]

PLEASE squash the beef with a boxing match. A Borderlands community boxing match sounds AWESOME!

[@Benvyious]

Shiller6 is a clown that can’t comprehend that his contract with 2k discredits his voice in the community.

[@TheOneTheyCallFrost]

Lol this was excellent content. Highly entertaining.

[@jasonbutler1996]

Many people wish to have the attitude, lovability, and draw as he does. Quit being Jelly!

[@holdenivy4481]

He's getting so heated lmao, I love it🤣