Kia EV6 Gets A Refresh, Chinese EVs Face 100% Tariffs

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[@val6764]

Does anyone else feel like Kyle treats this podcast like an after thought?

[@StephenColes]

Yep, it’s time to let someone else from Out of Spec be a regular. I suggest Francie.

[@doomsday9973]

@@StephenColes agreed she’s way better at this anyway

[@xrotaryguy]

Love the charger award. Right up there with the Emmy or Grammy. Now the Molougney!

[@frankcoffey]

Remember China still bought lots of GM vehicles even knowing our government bailed them out with lots of money. Buick used to be a big brand in China. Didn't everyone say Japan would "kill" the US auto industry in decades past? It looks like Japanese automakers are more at risk than others from Chinese imports.

[@xrotaryguy]

The US fed isn't investing in cheap EVs to nearly the extent that China is though. And China is a far larger nation than the US or Japan. They can steamroll us if we let them.

[@frankcoffey]

@@xrotaryguy That's what happened with other products so I guess you are right.

[@LorentJalabert]

@@xrotaryguy US companies are subsidized at a much higher rate than Chinese companies

[@johnrasimas2502]

Great idea for the awards.

[@bradcooke5383]

No BYD in America. Pity. Dom glad you got your mic fixed.

[@DriveElectricWithDomenick]

I'm glad it's working better, but not sure I did anything to fix it. May have plugged it into a different USB port? Maybe? 🤷‍♂️

[@boomerbits2297]

No matter how much us ev folks wish everyone drove a BEV, the market says hybrids are the answer right now. EV owners dont drive the market, the buyers do so stop trying to sell the manufacturers what to make. . They make what sells not what we wish for

[@thenerdyarab7622]

Poor salespeople have a lot to do with it.

[@Cyrribrae]

The market doesn't say hybrids are the answer to anything lol. They say that there is a notable bump in hybrid sales as there is a dip in EV sales. In other words, normal markets don't normal market things. I have no problem with hybrids, but investing heavily into hybrids now is like investing heavily into PDAs in 2007 because the palm pilot seems to be really hot right now and the iPhone 1's market share is still kinda small.... The market is reactive. If you're only reactive to reactivity, you're doomed. US automakers should do what's needed to survive - produce hybrids, sure, but better also get on improving BEV tech because there are lots of threats coming that will make the calm status quo quite chaotic.

[@kleefton]

Anyone that drove hybrids and full evs know which is the superior druvetrain. Many people are ignorant about that unfortunately. But they wont be able to ignore it forever

[@urbanstrencan]

It was another great episode 😊❤❤❤

[@appleiphone69]

The Taycan has 50% depreciation in 2 years. So it’s super fast in that category too.

[@JohnRoss1]

The VW BUZZ, the CyberTruck for the rest of us. 🤪 Can you even strap a surfboard or Kayak on to a CyberTruck ?🤪

[@ElectricBrian]

Equinox EV was advertised as starting at $30,000. I see it's starting at $42,000. Way to go GM.

[@Milhouse77BS]

Yeah, and if Al Gore was elected president in 2000 and maybe you could’ve happened about 20 years ago

[@adamchalom3872]

as Dominic mentions, the original ev tax credit system became active in 2008 ie under George W Bush.

[@DriveElectricWithDomenick]

​@@adamchalom3872To be precise, the Bush administration formulated the legislation, but Obama signed it into law.

[@adamchalom3872]

@@DriveElectricWithDomenickwas it the Energy Improvement and Extension act of 2008? That was enacted in 2008, which would mean signed by Bush. afdc.energy.gov/laws/eiea2008.html

[@BK-tx2vw]

Sorry, tried to email this but wouldn’t send🔋❤️🔌I recently purchased a used model S and I have a Nima 1450 outlet and could make a huge benefit for our family, my wife charges on a 110 outlet on her model 3 and she sometimes has to switch with me if she goes more than about 50 miles. We spend all our money on the kids and can’t afford a new charger. I have 4 kids and they always seem to use up my xtra cash to purchase one. Kids always come 1st🥹 Love your show and watch all your Chanel’s on out of spec, state of charge, and batteries included podcast.🔋🥰⚡️ Love that you guys have great giveaways, even tho I would watch you guys without them. I would use the charger every day and would love it! Thanks and keep up the great info coming like you do! ❤️⚡️

[@godofdun]

1:03:55 Guys, a maxed out vehicle being about the same price as where the next size vehicle up starts is NORMAL. This is just us EV people being in a bubble. That's how a full product line is supposed to look like.

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

1:34:28 Blitzkaefer? That would sound cool. Might catch on. More important: EV version of the Beetle would very nicely negate the big problem of the original design (no crash protection, and engines burning up).

[@Weezedog]

Chinese EVs are already in the US. Polestar and Volvo are majority owned by Geely which is a Chinese company. Just not selling in large quantities yet.

[@doomsday9973]

But they are almost all made in Sweden and are a legacy automaker. Big difference.

[@Weezedog]

@@doomsday9973 The Polestar 1 (discontinued) and 2, and the Volo EX30 are manufactured in China currently and are their main EVs.

[@Weezedog]

@@doomsday9973 Not true when it comes to EVs, the Polestar 1 and 2 and now the Volvo EX30 were/are made in China. The Polestar 3 will be made in the USA.

[@doomsday9973]

@@Weezedog I’m talking about Volvo as a whole not just EVs. Almost all their cars for the US market are built in Sweden or the U.S. Polestar was actually able to get a temp loophole because they were under Volvo at the time to avoid the tariffs but as I understand it the EX30 will not get it which is why they are building it in Belgium for the U.S. market now

[@Weezedog]

@@doomsday9973 To be fair and precise, while I understand you are talking about Volvo as a whole, the tariffs and article are specifically and only about Chinese EVs.

[@johnrasimas2502]

Pick up my model Y next Tuesday and would love to win a charger

[@vulpixelful]

25:23 He probably can have competitive pricing while making the chargers in NA vs Asia because he's paying himself less. Other charger companies probably pay their execs big bonuses.

[@Owenscameron]

I didn’t think Tom was ever going to stop talking. He took up like 1/3 of the show by himself alone and wouldn’t let anyone else talk!

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

That was by design. We were waiting for Kyle to join in from the road. Apologies if I wasn't entertaining🙂

[@johnpoldo8817]

When the show has only 3 participants, Tom should consume 1/3 of the show. Frankly, I highly value his knowledge and delivery of information.

[@MightyUnlikely]

Loved the weekly show (as always) but have camera observation for @DEWD (aka @DrivingElectricWithDominick). Dom's camera zoom/focus keeps getting "confused" by your background (esp when the BIP neon light/sign is illuminated). Could you change the mode on the camera to eliminate? It's just a little distracting.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Yeah, he's going to fix that

[@DriveElectricWithDomenick]

Apologies for that! No consolation, but it was also driving me pretty crazy. I'm looking right now to see if I can keep the focus fixed with some different software. That should solve that part of the problem.

[@gao57009]

Will the Volvo EX30 make it to the US with this 100% tariff

[@evflyguy]

North American EX30s are to be built in Belgium.

[@DriveElectricWithDomenick]

​@evflyguy Right! In Ghent, I believe. I'd forgotten about that. I suspect the Batteries may be from China, which are now facing a 25% tariff on their own.

[@gao57009]

I read the change to Belgium is planned for 2025.

[@gao57009]

@@DriveElectricWithDomenick The EX30 is already being produced in China and was expected to be imported from there with a starting price of about $37,000 but the tariffs will push that to over $50,000, again making it uncompetitive in its segment. Volvo last fall announced it would add EX30 production in Ghent alongside the XC40 and C40, but not until 2025.

[@davidws5439]

Martyn, iPhones are NOT hardly made in China anymore. They are made in India. Those large plants are shut down, machinery is moved to India.

[@doomsday9973]

Disagree with Tom here. At the time Japan was an ally, China is an adversary and a country we have increasingly deteriorating relations with. Both parties are lock step (which almost never happens nowadays) in keeping China out of the market. They will do whatever they can to block them from selling here, it won’t be anytime soon if ever. Also this foregone conclusion that Americans will just line up 1000 deep and fall over themselves to buy Chinese EVs has no merit whatsoever. No one has any idea how they will fare here

[@johnpoldo8817]

If we don’t have high tariffs on Chinese cars and prevent them coming in from Mexico, our US car industry will fail. This will cause a tax payer bailout as we’ve seen before. That is very bad for USA. What caused GM & Ford to allow the Chinese to get so far ahead of us? Is our government part of the solution or the problem?

[@yournumberonepal]

I wouldn't mind a 100% tariff on all Chinese products.

[@Gorgula]

Think a little harder about that.

[@yournumberonepal]

@@Gorgula 200%

[@ThomasSawyer-xe4kw]

That couldn't possibly be inflationary.

[@davidws5439]

Domenick, I do not want to hear anything from Volvo or Polestar. Support Americans and our alliance. Maybe this China loven channel is not for me anymore. What is with all the hate on USA brands. STOP IT.

[@ThomasSawyer-xe4kw]

Problem is, that US companies refuse to make affordable cars, only high trimmed overpriced ones. Not everyone can afford 50k plus cars.

[@vulpixelful]

Maybe US automakers should get good and perform on their own merits instead of depending on American protectionism 🤷🏾‍♀️