Kia EV6 GT 1000 km challenge

[@cyrillepommerai]

Very funny consumtion 303wh/ km while a model Y performance with a big trailer is « Only» at 356wh/km ! Thank you Björn for all your content made seriously without taking yourself seriously 👌

[@wanitobi1]

Thanks for the test! Wow, very high consumption with this speed. In my EV6 GT is the consumption in "normal mode" around 30kwh/100km when I am doing 150 kmh with cruise control on the Autobahn.

[@MrHusern]

Glad you did the 1000km challenge with this car :). The time wasn't to bad, the fast charging saved the thirsty beast. You probably know it, but you could use MY DRIVE mode, double press on the GT button. Then you can set suspension, ESC, steering to Normal, Power to Sport+ and still use cruise control and have full power like GT Mode :). The reason for the bad consumptions I think is because of the sticky performance tires and big wheels. I get around 10% better range with winter tires on the same 21" inch wheels. So if you can get 19"-20" inch wheels and EV tires you should see almost the same range as a GT-Line. One person reported to have almost the same range with 19" inch wheels that he first had on GT-Line and switched to a GT model and put the same wheels and tires on. But it's hard to find 19" that will fit the car, you could use spacers. I wouldn't change the tires yet, I like how sticky they are when driving spirited :). The GT model has double the inverters on the rear motor, 1 for high efficiency and 1 for high power. Driving normal will only activate the high efficiency inverter (probably the same as GT-Line have), driving that requires more power gets both invters activated. Link to the info about Kia EV6 GT inverters. www.hyundaimotorgroup.com/story/CONT0000000000084233

[@pegefounder]

Was yesterday at the Tesla dealer in Salzburg. They have a symbolic location: The building where before Toyota had been. Looking for the Tesla Y RWD. Only 5 minutes slower but 67 Wh/km less consumption.

[@FireballYT]

When you turn off the A/C "you go into Only Fans" 🤣

[@alexjobs]

Björn you are the One! 😎😎

[@pnketia]

Kia built this EV to demonstrate their capabilities since they knew they would ultimately be compared to Tesla by consumers, but it was never meant to be a volume production car and in the US there is a two year waiting list for the GT model plus with dealer markups upwards of $15K it is not even a bargain against other competitors.

[@tommesob5099]

Its way to hard to have good battery temperature on this car. And its also super thirsty...

[@newscoulomb3705]

Thanks for the run, Bjorn. It would be great if you could get your hands on the RWD EV6 for the 1000 km run. It was quite a bit more efficient in my testing, and as far as I know, KIA hasn't made the silicon carbide change in their AWDs yet (that would bring their efficiency closer to the RWD).

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

Already done. It is in the list. At the bottom.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@jeanbaptistelabelle Odd. It shouldn't be slower unless he was testing a smaller battery version.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

@@newscoulomb3705 yes because it was colder temperature

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@jeanbaptistelabelle Ah, okay. Then that would be due to the cold weather charging speed more than anything else. I'm still not sure if KIA has rolled out battery preconditioning like Hyundai did for the Ioniq 5. Given similar conditions, the RWD EV6 should be at least 15 minutes faster than the AWD, but it should never be slower than the AWD unless it was due to outside conditions.

[@IanMcc1000]

​@@jeanbaptistelabelle That was way before preconditioning was available as an update. It should shave about 20 mins off!

[@sebajfobi]

I own one of these, and even at speeds higher than this I get 26-ish consumption when the tenperature is low. In higher temps however, I see 21-22 kwh/100 km regularly. The average consumption for the last 10k kms is below 25, and I drive it like I stole it.

[@marianbencat6658]

Same here. I had 27.3 average consumption when i was driving it only 200+ on highways and .... well...very very sporty elsewhere. We had average consumpiton from Czech republic to Italy 24.3 (5 people, most of the time on higway, 140km/hod when possible)

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

Interesting that the GT version, despite milder temperatures, consumes a lot more (+15 to 20% compared to similar models). Wouldn't be worth it to me personally, because for some reason the performance/consumption advantage of BEVs doesn't really exist here.

[@Yachtzeee]

Still hard to beat the 3/Y performance even though they might not have the snazzy exterior features.

[@trancenut81]

Model Y is also much bigger than this, has much more space and practicality and we havent even come to the tech.

[@orangelobs]

Thanks for a great video like always! Do you know when you'll get the Xpeng G9 for more elaborate testing?

[@neuromancer777]

LOOLLL 30,4. Insane. 10kw more then a model Y performance. Tesla is in another Galaxy.

[@locksmack]

Great video as always Bjorn. Any chance of doing a 1000km challenge in a BYD Atto 3?

[@SciFiFactory]

My Ioniq electric is 6 years old and i can barely get it above 12kwh/100km when driving like this. Usually I am below 10kwh/100km. But what really suprised me is that this has exactly the same clumsy software! One would assume that EVs should become better?

[@Mike1_0]

My EV6 GT-line also fogged up quite easily in the beginning, even the rear view mirrors. But after it was in for a paintjob repair there where no foggy issues anymore! I suspect "paint dryer oven" dried up Korea moisture in the car?

[@martinj7083]

Just back from a 700 km journey in my EV6 AWD, about 80% motorway, and overall 14.9 kwh/100km. The GT must be huge fun on the right roads (or track), but in most driving I'm guessing the regular AWD is just as quick and much more efficient. But any EV6 is a great choice 👌

[@rezekvr66]

15kwh/100km with 90kmh behind the Trucks 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@martinj7083]

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[@rezekvr66]

@@martinj7083 no, favorite emoji for EV drivers are 🦄🦄🍆🍆🌈🌈🤣🤣

[@joely6699]

Good video, what driving mode was this trip done in mostly? Even with cooler temps it seemed a little thirsty on battery. I own this car but I'm in Australia so no low temp issues and can get upwards of 400km range per full charge. Yes thats not super great for an EV but not bad for this weapon, I love this car. I really think for what I paid the next version of the GT could come with a superior KWH battery pack.

[@dimitrimichaux461]

Remember Bjorn ABC, Always Be Closing your soda 😅

[@yoranbosman3565]

You would think somebody at kia could write a performant interface.

[@susihormon7821]

biggest fail is the heatpump. It could do so much more for battery. keeping it warm and homogen at around 23´C. Precooling in dubai or madrid could also be useful. Where is the manual button for battery care? That diziplin sucks in korean cars.

[@apocrypth]

Bjorn, may it be, that preheating kinda works, but it is not even in the pack? The group of cells - the one with low temp may be positioned in a way that it is harder to heat that one? (and of course the other way around, some cell group may be heated more and harder to cool - causing that big delta)

[@ericvet8b]

I agree with you Bjorn. This car seems way too complicated and actually seems to waste energy.

[@stefanborge]

Only sad thing in ev6 gt is the seats. The normal have electric adjustment and most importantly it has ventilated seats.

[@FrankNolf]

Software in these cars is just clumsy. You almost need a phd to figure out how to preheat

[@zappbrannigan8325]

Just Set destination to high-powered charger and your good to go. No need for PHD for that. Its The algo is whats confusing but regular folk dont need to worry about that, just Set destination, drive and enjoy The ride

[@siasek]

​@@zappbrannigan8325 I don't think a normal person wants to use the built-in navigation, but rather Android Auto + Google Maps. :)

[@bjornnyland]

But preheating only works randomly. In Tesla, BMW, Mercedes, Polestar and Volvo it works every time.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

@@siasek ask yourself why. I have a Tesla, never I would need Android Auto. I do not see the added value.

[@FrankNolf]

@@zappbrannigan8325 did you watch the video, preheating works randomly and you can not navigate directly to your end destination because if you do that preheating does not work at all 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MrBrandPeter]

I'm really wondering how much the wheels are the reason for the high consumption. When Bjørn just coasted downhill in another video the result was more than disappointing. Would be interested if other wheels would make a notable difference (or just covering for a try).

[@teamnotleafy6887]

Glad I decided to go for the GTLine S AWD, touring speed and comfort were my priorities and 446ft/lb of torque sees off most things at sane speeds. If they ever make a GTLine S with 20" wheels, the active suspension and GT powertrain, I might swap up though. If you re-do the EV6 AWD 1000km challenge in summer with the preconditioning update and the new nav update, I'll send some good salad recipes ;)

[@rasmusAND]

The EV6 and Ioniq 5 will always STOP preheating when battery min reaches 20C. Don’t ask me why but if you get a chance to ask Kia about this then that would be very interesting to know…

[@Bemx2k]

I do not understand KiA bosses for saving 40 $ on faster CPU/GPU

[@mightygood1]

ABC Always Blind Cars. Good amount of flashes in this one.

[@Rumpftelpfrumpf]

Spekeröd, the most famous place in Sweden. 😀

[@speksih]

You can configure the GT Custom mode to your liking.

[@jghall00]

Retest with wheels and tires from the GT-Line?

[@antoniofreitas6335]

@bjornnyland Do you have any perspective of testing the i4 edrive 35?

[@patrickfavier4310]

Seriously? A 78kWh EV6 needs the same first charging stop as the Tesla Model Y RWD with 58kWh? Thats crazy.

[@FireballYT]

Yeah, the Kia has 585hp, 77.4 kWh is the gross value of the Kia and the MY actually has a 60kWh battery (if you wanna talk gross for net) and 295 hp, which isn't that bad, but it's a siginificant difference.

[@patrickfavier4310]

@@FireballYT yeah.. but unlike fossils, the power difference of the electric drivetrain should not affect the efficiency. I commisioned 4 electric motors on a large navy vessel for propulsion summing up to 12MW of power that still had a 97%-98% efficiency. (Still meant a significant cooling installation though) net vs gross battery capacity.. ok, don't know the exact numbers, but KIA usually mentiones gross as well, so the 78 might be larger as well (e-niro advertised 64kWh actually is closer to 70)

[@FireballYT]

@@patrickfavier4310 Kia always advertises gross capacities, i.e. net of 77.4 kWh is 73 kWh. If you watch the vloggers who were invited to the "Kia Museum" upon Kia EV6 GT launch, they also showed off improved inverters which allowed them to apply double the power to the rear drive train, along with some other improved/added elements like, 2-stage motor sys tech, e-limited slip diff, improved rotational speed of the motors, reinforced internal cooling, hairpin winding method of the coils, all of these trim the car for perf instead of efficiency - my bet is, the empowered inverters are mostly responsible for the added consumption. That said, they could maybe improve something with a "chip tuning", so e.g., the car turns off the additional power output completely and acts like a regular EV6 AWD, so it provided "only" 325hp in non-GT modes, like the magic Tesla did with the Model S Plaid (not sure about the general efficiency of that beast, but it seems better, too).

[@patrickfavier4310]

@@FireballYT Tesla model S plaid had a consumption of 255Wh/km per the same 1000km challenge. Model S plaid has 750kW, and thus a lot more HP than the EV6 GT with 304Wh/km. Efficiency has little to do with pure power.

[@FireballYT]

@@patrickfavier4310 yeah, I was saying where I believe the difference comes from and it seems Tesla has some by-passes if you don't drive Plaid, i.e. superior engineering.

[@IanMcc1000]

Turn off every automatic option in the Climate menu to help with the fogging.

[@zappbrannigan8325]

Hi bjørn, i just wanted to comment about The horrible efficiency of ev6 GT. i cannot understand how it is so high, i own a GT-Line RWD ev6 and when we drove to My wifes parents home 320 km away with average speed of about 95 km/h our consumption was 16,3 kWh/100km for The trip (weather was +12 c° average for the trip in April in Finland) The Power is cool and all but i would take My efficiency compared to The GT-model Even If The Price would Be The same. Maybe you should do The test again with RWD GT-line to save kias face 😅

[@beinlich1656]

How come only Tesla can have low delta in batteries, snappy response on interfaces, insane performance, insane efficiency and user friendly app? Can't the other car makers learn?

[@David_Polak]

I guess because they are an EV only company and had a 5 year head start.

[@bjornnyland]

Because Tesla has alien technology 🤣

[@marianbencat6658]

well.. other cars have other features, which tesla lacks.. LIke working wipers, HUD, instrument cluster, eLSD, 21 wheels on SUPERSTICKY Michelin PS4S (on 19 wheels with EV tyres, the range is 15% better already on GT btw).,, And.. the performance will last more than 5 minutes ;-)

[@aldozilli1293]

I am confused, I have a Tesla 3 Standard + and never get near the mileage they claim. On the other hand in Korean cars Kia GT and Ioniq 5 I regularly reach or surpass the claimed range. Doesn't stack up with what you report from your tests.

[@mert5047]

I am sorry, but the software looks like it is from 15 years ago. When will legacy manufacturers take the software and HCI seriously? They really don't have any excuses, they have the budget.

[@antoniocirino8444]

We need an efficiency rating for EV cars!

[@sdfgkls]

Like how many kwh/km it consumes? Good thinking, wonder if anyone else have thought about that!

[@aymanlockhartable]

Take apart EV6 and Model Y and see big difference better engineering from Tesla!

[@grantlouw3182]

Nothing wrong with manual seat adjustments, saves weight and reduces complexity.

[@jeanbaptistelabelle]

You cannot have memory. 5 persons are driving my car. Manual seats are a no-go.

[@bosse220]

Hi. Do you think Europe is going to switch to teslas charge plug. As Ford, GM are doing???

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@shivan6416]

Preconditionning is not a software stuff. It is also hardware. You must have good battery management with enough power to make it usefull. Kia shows that if it is bad designed at the begining, you cant make it work good enough.

[@sergeikulichkov7748]

Imagine paying so much for this.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

30kwh I only get on the autobahn doing 200 whenever it’s possible… all the clumsiness of the infotainment, the rules of preheating, don’t turn ac on while battery conditioning, hotgate, coldgate… the f…

[@KayvonJavid]

What’s that salad recipe/

[@panospapadimitriou3498]

nice car...

[@djentleman5129]

This car also in my garage 🤣 With 130 km/h I only had 24 kWh, never hat 29 without some high speed parts. But you have 9 degree, maybe that's the reason.

[@bjornnyland]

130 km/h for you is most likely only 125 km/h GPS speed.

[@andreykovachev7002]

Why is the GT version consuming so much more power? The range which was borderline sufficient on the Gt line 4wd, now with the GT it is unacceptable. I hope solidstate batteries comes out soon, so we can have 600-700km of range

[@shivan6416]

Efficiency is the solution. Not fat batteries

[@esaedvik]

700km range is starting to be on the absurd side. No one needs that. Especially not by increasing weight by adding battery.

[@andreykovachev7002]

@@esaedvik 700km is what i get from my car now. And it is not absurd. I need around 550km to go from my city to the sea, or to the sea of the neighbouring country. And I do not want more weight, the new solid state baterries can give 30-40% more charge with 150kg less weight. We just need to move to the next gen baterries.

[@gregchristie2763]

Y wouldn't you just buy a Tesla that doesn't have the flaws of many cars you test.

[@Symbrio]

BTW, where are cars with solid state batteries??? I think we'll sooner have nuclear fusion than solid state batteries😂😂

[@bigdi77]

Audi r8 has manual seats

[@RENAULTOlivier]

800V cars are so inefficient ... ionity is so unreliable...

[@junehanzawa5165]

Testing this high power GT with this short range and those huge tires is far from optimal for an EV6 1,000 kilometer challenge. Of course, their battery preconditioning is kind of useless with all those rules, and it should preheat all the way down until 5%.

[@tankertanky2481]

So complicated for users.

[@tridrean]

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[@10secondsrule]

I don’t get Korean cars and some weird decision Koreans make. I can see living in Korea for over a year now the problem might be their culture which kills any individuality and individual thinking. A very medieval structured society. I can imagine ev6 is a product of a corporation thinking with the top guys making most decisions (and top guys are often old with traditional thinking ) not the designers intent. You can see it’s other products like phones or even new buildings which often make little sense (mostly on the outside though). I bet they simply put this extra GT button because it is “cool”. It’s not.

[@Symbrio]

Scandinavia is waaaaay too slow. You guys need to deristrict your autobahn. No wonder everyone is driving EVs over there cause everyway you go, you need to drive at undertaker speeds.😂😂

[@EXSKIN]

Love the onlyfans comment LOL.

[@trancenut81]

The consumption is just horrible. Korean automaker operating exactly liek samDUNG, specs but hardly any substance.

[@michaelpetrisor71]

Slower than the lowest range and least powerful Tesla.... oof. Maybe next time Kia?

[@tomasznowicki1735]

Bjoern is great with these tests and some decent data tables, plus he's a really nice guy. However, he probably does not fully sense the cultural difference of native Europeans, because he constantly mentions that he has to take care of his physiological needs. You don't have to be a member of the royal family to find these confessions somewhat uncomfortable. Apart from that, however, Bjoern is doing a good job of popularizing, showing that BEV is not such a terrible devil as he is described by motoring portals and newspapers financed by German manufacturers of smelly diesels ;-) If I could dream of something else in addition to these tests, it would be for him to take a small seismograph on the passenger seat with him on the road and analyze its records in terms of suspension comfort - after all, most tests are carried out on the same routes and after some analysis and averages, it would be a good comparative material.

[@GoldenCroc]

Ironically, its the other way around with the knowledge of culture of "native europeans'. For native Northern europeans/scandinavians, those things are a non issue, so he has learnt the culture where he was raised just fine. Perhaps you should instead be mindful of europe being a big place with differing sensibilities before jumping a bit to conclusions.

[@tomasznowicki1735]

​@@GoldenCroc You may be right, of course, because I don't know enough about Scandinavian culture. However, during my visits to Sweden, I got the impression that the Swedes tend to be more introverted and avoid direct references to personal matters. In any case, customs are gradually changing, which I experience every day in my own country. For example, 20 or 30 years ago, you did not meet young girls on the street who freely used language full of profanity, swearing or blunt expressions. This was considered incompatible with their social status. It was the same with conversations about more intimate personal matters - they just weren't talked about publicly, in a larger group. Now it's more and more different. Not that I'm complaining, that's not the point, I just notice it. It's just on the sidelines of the discussion about Bjoern's tests ;-)

[@bjornnyland]

Wtf...

[@tridruankham2657]

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