Kia Soul EV vs MG ZS EV - DrivingElectric

[@Taylorman89]

To me this video is wrong. The only thing that links these 2 cars is that they're crossovers. The MG is a cheaper car has a lot less range and is not trying to be premium, yes it has it's flaws but you get what you pay for. They should of compared the MG to the current Leaf (40kwh)

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

Kia does feel pretty premium and spacious, you can get the soul ev in a smaller battery pack and it's about 10k cheaper.

[@lala-ru1jj]

did you collect your paycheck from MG ?

[@Taylorman89]

@lala-ru1jj nope still waiting 😥

[@keithn1]

At the moment these cars are £12000 apart, as you can pick up a new mg exclusive for £22000, immediate delivery. The comparison is an absolute joke

[@Arthur_Pint]

According to the reviewer the difference is £7,000, which is still a lot but nowhere near 12 Grand.

[@lala-ru1jj]

did you collect your paycheck from MG ?

[@blazhrovat729]

Next time be fair. And take eSoul 39kwh. Then you will have same price and same battery and same charge speed. Then small things will count :p

[@pawelzebrowski683]

She always live but i like the review

[@craiglawrence5211]

It is the 3-pin you get with the MG, the Type-2 is what you pay extra for (as many home chargers are tethered). If you get a decent smart charger, the lack of car app and timer isn't a problem. I have an Ohme and my last charge __paid__ me 12 pence on the Octopus Agile tarrif. I do think the MG tends to get a little unfairly compared to the Kona/Niro/now the Soul as being a similar sized EV, when the price differential is huge.

[@wobby1516]

Craig Lawrence I agree with you no need for in car timed charging, I’ve the Kona Electric which can be set from the car, I’ve never used it! However my smart charger sold by myenergi.com Works on a timed setup as well as using off peak electric, I use that all the time to charge between 00-30 and 04-30 at just 5 pence per kWh On their Octopus Go tariff. share.octopus.energy/funny-rose-57

[@gavc6442]

£500 a month..... for a Kia lol.... erm no thank you, makes no economic sense to the majority of the public on average wages in the UK, and even if it did, I dare say people will not be rushing to spend that on a Kia badged car, no matter how good it may be. In my opinion the MG makes far more economic sense, and despite its trivial shortcomings I’d rather have that money in my pocket than someone else’s, and that I suspect is the opinion you will see many people have. Well done MG for bringing affordable electric motoring to ordinary hard working people

[@ncooty]

@Gav C: There are other costs to buying a car made in China. (Also, consider the lower total cost of ownership of electric vs. internal combustion.)

[@howardweir7501]

You should get over your brand perception and look at the reality - Korean build quality still beats Chinese build - as the video shows clearly. It's all about compromise. Buying full electric is still only economical for early adopters, and you need to pay for the un- compromised range the better performers have - a la Hyundai, Kia and Tesla. And then, there's the little finer points . . .

[@mcamodell]

The price difference is almost all the bigger battery. Kia has surpassed Nissan, MG and Renault in recent years.

[@briankavanagh7191]

Wow never seen such a one sided review Kia this Kia that Kia the other. The Kia has Apple play and android so does MG. Traded in a Merc to buy the MG and don't regret a thing, once you set the radio to your stations and pair your phone job done and the MG sat nav is brilliant just take a little time to understand it and away you go.

[@animalcol1]

Hummmm, seems like a slightly insecure answer. Just enjoy your car. Personally I'd have the Kia, mainly for the range. I also think it looks way better. But that's only an opinion, not a criticism, on the mg

[@briankavanagh7191]

@@animalcol1 My comment was based on the fact that if you are going to a review please don't be biased towards one car. point out the good and the bad for both cars.

[@yonaz3334]

@@briankavanagh7191 That's what she did. The Kia is better in almost every way except price

[@arnoldtabor3767]

She does say within 40 seconds "let's see if the kia is worth the extra money over the MG" it is a direct comparison review, if the kia costs more but is better in almost every way she is going to say it

[@Reddylion]

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[@Slim055]

This is the second or third iteration of the KIA Soul EV. Naturally it is quite a bit more sophisticated, economical and usable. It still looks like the "MG" is a pretty good car.

[@arminius6506]

Not to forget 10-12k price difference

[@nickmartin884]

Vicky was doing so well with her review until talking about money e.g. price and lease rates. The MG is the ONLY family EV for the masses as it's the only one that is affordable! I would love to have a Kia Niro EV but couldn't justify (or afford) the price differential. Also, don't Kia and Hyundai have problems with availability for their EV's? From what I recall, when I ordered my MG I would have had to wait a preposterous time to get one from Kia or Hyundai.

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

They had like a 15-20 in stock last December here in CANADA, BC. Bought one for December and is still cheaper than the base model 3 and has more real world range

[@MortenB0]

Yes you are right Nick, it makes no sense to test a car with 64kWh battery with a 44.5kWh unless the cost is about the same. Big battery will always win. I have a blue MG and is happy with it, a great car but have some software potentials. I know that KIA is a better car that performs better but for a lot more money. And if money was no issue I would skip both of them and get a EQC :)

[@siraff4461]

If you call not much over 100 miles range and slow charging "for the masses". You also forgot to add the cost in human life and to the economy from doing business with Chy-na.

[@aystertube]

@@siraff4461 you'll find a lot of stuff is made in china either fully or partly, so difficult to get away from that!

[@tonychallinor6721]

@@siraff4461 I know, it's terrible to buy products from such a country - so I'm sure you have no Chinese made products? Also don't buy American as they imprison children and remove them from families permanently, damage the environment, take health care from the poor and so on. Make sure your evidence is solid and your morals equally applied

[@ELMS]

I own the same type of Kia eSoul you tested and I completely agree, it’s an excellent bev in every respect. My previous vehicles were all luxury gas SUV’s. But after nearly a year of ownership there isn’t a day that I don’t get in my Kia and think about how satisfied I am with the car. Terrific review.

[@Reddylion]

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[@nickevans7049]

you lie

[@mrglwatson]

I think that when you compare cars, the price of each should be similar

[@usfouru2]

The MG ZS EV that was used in this video and previous video on this channel is a pre production model and will have some anomalies that have since been ironed out in firmware updates.

[@tinytom21]

I think the charging numbers are wrong. MG charged up 3.9kwh, and your usage says 3.2m/kWh, so should be 12.5 miles added not 5. And Soul should be around 27.5 miles (7.9*3.5) not 18miles

[@fordwebster8113]

Yep, I spotted that too

[@mikeuk4130]

Me too.

[@holdontoyourwig]

There is a lot wrong with this video in general.

[@rodneyoneill75]

Soul SOC was at 41% MG was at 60% so its battery was beginning to throttle back. Need to redo to make test fair.

[@Pete856]

@@rodneyoneill75 This is something most car reviews just don't understand. However, as this is the "DrivingElectric" channel, you would think that they should know this stuff.

[@bjornjohansson9900]

Great video! I drive both a Kia Optima PHEV and an MG ZSEV. I find the Optima to be comparable with the BMW 5-series in terms of quality, definitely better than the Passat. The e-Soul shouldn't be far off. The MG is good too, but more like a Nissan Qashqai. So it's not as premium / well-built as the Kia but also cheaper. I like both brands and MG is crazy good value for money.

[@Sanpedranoazul]

I`d go with the MG, if you need basic transportation it`s the pick to go after to

[@bextar6365]

Just on looks alone I would buy the MG, but it will never be sold in the US...

[@maqboolusman2914]

Yeh same.. that soul looks too wierd 😬

[@chasonbikes]

My MG does show charging points on the Sat Nav, think your 19 plate demo might be a pre production model, or hasn't had a recent update. Also for fairness some of the owners are now getting over 5mkwh now the weathers warmer. Not had any issue on the motorway with regards to steering. Probably biggest issue is the Kia is as ugly as sin and has a huge waiting list, not saying the MG is beautiful but it's streets ahead of the Kia in looks. So boot space is so important in a family car and MG wins but Kia still gets the point? come on, you stated you had had a Kia E-Niro for a year, was this a long term loan ? Perhaps slightly biased test, it should of perhaps won the test but not in every category. Still I have my first electric car that I am enjoying, not embarrassed about driving and didn't have to spend £10k plus more or wait over a year.

[@evguy2154]

Why do MG continue to supply pre-production vehicles to the press If you purchase a new one you get 13A plug charger but not the type 2 lead The sat nav includes electric charging stations I do agree the soul will win on each test and so would a Tesla if you were including the model 3, it's only another £7000 more than the Kia. Basically pay extra and get better range or get a value for money electric car

[@mikejward626]

Your calculation is wrong for the "how much range in 10 minutes" test in the MG. 3.5kwh x 3.2 miles/kwh does not equal only 5 miles of range. Non ev people are going to think that you can only get 5 miles in the time of a cup of coffee.

[@tonychallinor6721]

Anyway, 3.5 to 4 seems to be easily achieved as I can attest and see reporting on the MG forum

[@barryhaeger4284]

Vicky was quite correct to say at the outset that some manufactures state the total Battery capacity while others state the usable capacity. However, Vicky was incorrect in stating the battery capacity of the ZS EV as MG Motors state that the MG ZS EV as a USABLE capacity of 44.5 kWh and I believe the undisclosed true capacity is somewhere in the region of 47+ kWh. I've driven my ZSEV through the winter months and while it isn't as efficient as the eNiro I once owned I have only ever managed to get down to 3.2 mile / kWh when driving at legal limit in rain on a motorway at 5C without the benefit of any city or A-Road regeneration opportunities which Vicky's test circuit had. I don't drive like an eco-warrior/vicar and yet driving enthusiastically in dry conditions at 10C on A-roads with default settings and heat on I regularly get 4 to 4.2 miles/kWh.

[@fazkhan8009]

I have Mg I get 4.5 easy in Spring definitely 5 in summer time , but excellent review, I paid£23500 for exclusive. It’s actually more than £10000 cheaper, I don’t mind Mg lost against Kia🤗🤗

[@holdontoyourwig]

I've got the MG as well. You just cant compare the two. I paid the same as you. That's a bloody bargain for everything you get extra. My last car was a VW Tiguan DSG. It had no sunroof, heated seats, adaptive cruise control, lane assist, electric wing mirrors, apple carplay or android auto and it cost £30k.

[@gingernutpreacher]

does it bother you your money goes to china the pandemic creating with questionable human rights is putting it mildly

[@holdontoyourwig]

@@gingernutpreacher No.

[@holdontoyourwig]

@@gingernutpreacher Can i suggest you don't buy anything from any other country. That way you can only complain about the abuse WE inflict on our people.

[@gingernutpreacher]

@@holdontoyourwig No you can not since Germany Japan France south Korea ect ect do not have these human right issues we don't weld bars to peoples houses to stop then coming out because there suspected to have cove you can not compare the 2 to try is to say genocide is ok

[@The-Randomest-Guy]

A lot of that stuff has been changed for the MG btw. The bongs and the infotainment etc have all been updated

[@richardtracey7216]

The MG is due an update which will include a larger capacity battery and resolve a lot of the disparities between these cars. The most important issue is cost for most people and the MG blows the ugly smaller Kia out of the water. This comparison and bias towards the Kia is ridiculous. Reviews have to be subjective and based on cost per mile and when you factor in the cost of the car there really is absolutely no compromise and you should be pointing people in the direction of the MG showroom. PS you also need to look at cost of service plans and servicing, plus parts and accessories. Only then can you get a true picture of the cost of ownership.

[@jaz4280]

I have got the same red mg .. very pleased with it, bought for 24.000 pounds, so the difference is nearly 11.000 pounds. If I want to spend that much more, I will wait a little longer, for the next batch of EVs like the Mach E.... or wait VW offers on EVs. The MG is sound choice for the price or wait few more months, especially in the age of corona, you are unlikely to be rushing to buy the Kia.

[@garysmith5858]

I've an MG ZS EV and its charge rate is up to 80kW, not that I've managed to get that high myself with it usually maxing at 40kWh

[@charlesbridgford254]

MG is owned by SAIC. A Chinese state owned company. The profit from the sale of this car supports the CCP and its policies. For me, a purchase of this magnitude should consider the implications of this, especially when there are alternative cars available. You have to decide whether this bothers you.

[@dizzypeasant1632]

If you're going to test charging rates usefully you'll need to do a lot more than plug them in for ten minutes and get the sums wrong. Charging rates vary wildly depending on starting level of charge and battery temperature. A snapshot tells us nothing usefull at all it needs a complete series of tests. Happily TeslaBjorn has been doing precisely this for years.

[@Scuba72Chris]

I just don't think I could get my head around the insanity of paying £500 per month to lease a Kia.

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

The soul still cheaper than the tesla model 3 and has a larger battery when compared to the base model.

[@deltadia]

If you are deciding EV on a badge then you probably arent really serious about EV... Kia/Hyundai EV has one of longest range with its 64kw battery. Tesla 3 long range will have longer range but you pay more. And then there is etron, i pace and benz eq but you will be paying significantly more..

[@Astrolavista]

I looked, and with a couple of grand deposit you can lease the MG EV for less than £300pm. that's getting close to what I would accept :)

[@stephenshannon3706]

DIY Astronomy The MG is a good car for the money without doubt, but the Kia e-Niro and new e-Soul range is massively larger. If the MG could charge at more than 100 kW/h it would realistically offer a serious threat to Kia in that segment, though currently there are not that many very rapid chargers offering that capability. Nevertheless many drivers will mostly do short daily trips and they can easily top up at night if they have their own driveway, so given the aggressive pricing the MG will be perfect for a lot of people.

[@mcamodell]

That's because you aren't thinking about total cost of operating. If you include fuel, insurance and maintenance it gets a lot more obvious that it's a smart move.

[@kiae-nirodiaries1279]

My experience with the e-Niro (same drivetrain as the Soul) from 13 months of ownership is consumption varies between 3.5 miles/kWh on a winter motorway run to 5.2 miles/kWh doing local trips in the summer. The ambient temperature does make a difference, at 20c the car is running at its most economical. I live in France so with longer summers and higher average temps which helps a bit.

[@nepaliman5716]

Whats wrong with review is ... you are comparing two different class of vehicles.. Neither their battery or their price are same.

[@Xenon0000000000001]

They're almost the exact same size and shape, of course they're the same class, it's just that one's more premium than the other. It's like saying you can't compare a Focus to an A-Class. The whole point of the review is to answer the question of what do you go for if you want an electric SUV of that size, and is it worth the extra for the Kia.

[@brianmuir9059]

Not quite a fair test on price point. Personally I quite like the Soul styling but not the price of £34k. And if you own a reasonable sized dog then the boot space isn’t really big enough. Anyway, I’ve just ordered a new pre-reg MG for £12k less than the Kia so that more than offsets any shortcomings in a comparison test!

[@and1111000]

The MG's incessant bongs and alarms have all been sorted via a recent software upgrade. They just need to bring out the nifty Asian app, and it'll be even better.

[@barryhaeger4284]

I agree that the Infotainment system and absence of any charging control is an immense downside of the MG ZS EV and the European incarnation feels as if it is simply a carryover from the petrol version. This is particularly annoying since the Thai version (and possibly other Asian markets) the Infotainment system provides far more relevant charging and SOC information for the Electric Vehicle driver relating to efficiency and state of charge and charging performance. The European version as tested doesn't even tell you what percentage charge you have so you can judge the best time to stop on a longer journey (given that for shorter journey times it is better to stop more frequently after driving down to the 10 to 20% SOC and then Rapid charge to around 50% than to stop at 50% and rapid charger to 100%. The Thai version also has a system called iSmart which provides the remote charging information and control via an App which Vicky quite rightly commented on. The 19 plate press car which Vicky drove was a pre-production model (you can tell this because the button on the end of the stalks is black and is pale blue in production vehicles) and the infotainment system in the test car has the petrol car's Sat Nav points of interest ie. petrol stations. On production cars. Points of Intrest include Charging stations although since it is not a Tesla they are woefully out of date and you'd do better to use Apple Carplay or Android Auto and something like ZapMap or ABetterRoutePlanner.

[@photodom2000]

Just a quick comment about utilising cheaper late night electricity for charging. If you are using a standard domestic socket at home, then you can simply buy the same type of timer you would use to bring on your house lights on, plug that into the socket and then plug your charging cable into that. I'm not sure if you can get the same bit of kit for a high capacity wall charger, but charging times shouldn't be insurmountable. Yes I agree it would be better hard wired into the car, but there are other option.

[@robertsmiff]

Your reviews are excellent! Very informative and interesting.

[@anemeth9281]

And professional! She does know her job for sure!!

[@nickevans7049]

@@anemeth9281 she lie

[@highheels200]

I've read that MG has 44.5kwh usable and it's actually a 45.3kwh pack. I'm getting 4.5 miles per kWh on mine as well. I'm using ohme wall charger to do delayed charging at night. Rumours of an app coming as well which can be retro fitted or using ovms as third party solution.

[@johndoyle4723]

Hard to compare these 2 cars, they are in a different price league and the Kia with bigger battery will always win, but not on price. If you can afford it go for the Kia, but otherwise if you can manage with lower range and all the other minor issues, then the MG will suit many drivers. Disclosure, I drive an eNiro, same drive train as the Soul, and it is the best car I have ever owned, and I have had Range Rovers, Jags and Porsches.

[@kinross24]

If you own a Zappi or Ohme chargers you can set these for cheap tariff rate charging so any car without a charge timer can still get the benefits of off peak or 30min interval low cost electricity with a Smart meter

[@johnfaulkner6776]

This little old man gets 4.5 to 5 mpkwh all the time on an older 30kwh battery 2018 Soul. I use "b" - max regen and admit I hate motorways! I had a 2 year old, 2016 Zoe ( battery owned ) for 2 years then bought a 2 year old 2018 Kia Soul. Huge saving on new and both low mileage.

[@maximilianholland]

Short suggestion - could you highlight the range/consumption when motorway cruising at 70 mph? This is the critical scenario - even a day of urban driving errands will almost never challenge the range of contemporary EVs. If we want EVs to fully replace the pollution of ICEs, occasional long trips need to be possible.

[@richardwaller7721]

I’ve got a Kona Electric with the same drivetrain and I typically get at least 3.2 mi/kWh doing a 135 mile trip up on the motorway in the UK (i.e. in winter) at an indicated 72 mph. I’ve made several trips of 300 miles plus up to Scotland and they’ve been no trouble at all - just have a short morning charging stop for coffee and then a longer lunchtime charge (c. 1 hour total) - and I’ll still arrive with roughly 30-40% state of charge.

[@EarnshawUK]

Apart from the current virus problem, if you are looking to buy a new electric car what is the availability? Sure, the one you have chosen might be good but can you wait that long?

[@japanluv]

Plan it:D Currently on a late 2014 Outlander Phev. I do most of my mileage in EV mode. I dont even have a charger at home. I charge at work. Living in a 2nd floor flat. Monthly average 550 miles. Commute to work and back 15 miles. Max I did till engine kicked it 28 miles. Worse 23. Warm weather will help. Bought mine used in January. I top up at supermarkets for free. Next one hope I can convert this into 100% EV or get a Kia Soul EV or e Niro. Unless Mitsu comes with full EV soon considering recent partnership with Nissan and Renault.

[@PH8592]

Many dealers have MGs in stock, so availability is very good on the MG side

[@heidiwilks5316]

Not sure why she only got such slow acceleration in the Soul -- drivers have been getting low-to-mid 6 second acceleration runs to 100 kph, which is consistent with the Niro EV which has the same battery and drivetrain...

[@RWBHere]

Thanks for the video, Vicky. Very useful information. Your maths was a bit off with the 10 minute charging test, however. These are your stated figures, with the calculated miles gained, according to your real world test efficiencies: At 6:30 Kia: 7.9 kWh x 3.5 mpkWh = 27.65 extra miles. At 6:40 MG: 3.9 kWh x 3.2 mpkWh = 12.48 extra miles. So the Kia still led, with 15.21 miles more range gained in ten minutes. But the car costs around £7,000 pounds more to buy. Swings and roundabouts. I do like the Kia, so my heart says, 'Buy it!', but my bank balance and head point me firmly at the MG.

[@binomad1]

For a new top of the range, I've just been quoted 22k and its in the lovely triple red...plus a years b/down with the AA. You cant compare with KIA - its an oranges/apples comparison and as the gentleman said previously, we cant all afford overpriced EV's

[@rob_in_stowmarket_uk]

Engaging MG Pilot obviates the need for minor steering inputs on motorways and major A-Roads. And MG Pilot switches in Adaptive Cruise Control as well. The main drawback of the ZS EV, of course, is that in MG Pilot you, bizarrely, lose ALL Brake ReGen facility. ‘Bonging’, obviously now eradicated with the latest MG update and, using Android Auto/Apple CarPlay, as MOST people will, sidesteps any of the MG’s interactive system drawbacks. Also, these two cars, from vastly different price and ‘brand perception’ ranges, do not offer a comparison of much merit, in my view.

[@MrKeke2502]

Correction: The MG ZS EV is capable of charging up to 80 kW The Soul will also max out at 80 kW with perfect conditions but it is very rare to see it above 76 kW

[@MrKeke2502]

@Chris Booth This is probably due to a too cool battery. Here's a link to the charging curve witnessed by Fastned: support.fastned.nl/hc/en-gb/articles/360037129533-Charging-with-a-MG-ZS-EV- And here's a video where you can see a charging session at a 350 kW charger from IONITY: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKG3k4CLp8ppj7s

[@steveholderness1450]

Really interesting review. Kia looks to be a cracking car, but is it only me that thinks it's really ugly? (Not keen on the MG either by the way)

[@mikeuk4130]

I agree about the looks, but think the Kia is smart but purposely "different". The MG fails on huge, ugly grille and truly awful wheels imo. Sensible reviews.

[@steveholderness1450]

@@mikeuk4130 My Peugeot e-208 GT arrives as soon as the dealership opens up again. Big enough, plenty of range (it's mainly for commuting) decent tech and MUCH nicer looking. Can't wait!

[@mikeuk4130]

@Steve Holderness The Peugeot looks great. I've got my name down for an e-Niro, but may end up with a Corsa-e, which drives well, not as handsome as the 208 but almost the same car underneath, I think.

[@bjrn-steinarhanssen2102]

I do agree to Steve, the Kia is less attractive than the previus modell. I adore the bodywork of the MG, but think the wheels are bad. Higher profile would make it softer on uneven asphalt, and less roadnoice. Also different design would lift the design.

[@shreyaskumaragarwal3343]

This seemed more like a Kia advertisement than an actual comparison. Its like get an S Class and 3 series then say the Merc is miles aheas of the BMW. There is a price difference of 7-8k between the two for god's sake!! Get the 40kwh soul and then compare.

[@Safety1stDrivingSchoolDublin]

Now Vicky, these 2 cars are both on my shortlist. How does Kia EV Soul compare to the remodelled longer range 44Okm range MG ZS? Can you do a separate video with newer and more refined MG ZS pls?

[@jmoranretana]

I have missed you guys. LOVE your content. I am impressed by the chinese MG ZS EV numbers starting by the security.

[@stuartgold3602]

Surely the MG deserves 1 point for the far larger boot and a sun roof! You can't overlook that compared to a few extras on the infotainment. 35 Grand for a "family car" that only has a 315 litre boot!

[@Arthur_Pint]

The panoramic sunroof on the MG does look fantastic and I'm surprised that the much more expensive Kia doesn't offer it. As for the boot, my children have grown up and left home now, but whenever I used to take my wife and 2 children away on holiday, I always preferred a relatively large interior as opposed to a big boot, especially if I could utilise a 1 rear seat folded arrangement. A roof box can be a pain to set up but as I rarely went away on holiday more than once a year, it didn't really impact me that much. I don't have an EV but for what it's worth I wouldn't mind owning any of these 2 quality cars.

[@leftyamazed]

I am an MG fanboy, but I have to say I also was a betamax fanboy. I ended up with a VHS eventually and when an e-Niro becomes readily available for the price of an MG ZS EV, I will go for a Kia.

[@xguboekoberav1980]

Out of curiousity ; what is your favourite model of MG Jason Burgess?

[@kyliefan7]

I liked the MG when it first came out styling-wise (even though it won’t ever be offered here in the US) but now it seems to look dated....

[@batandball617]

Coffee and loo stop more like 20-30 min at least, even longer with children in tow. This for me is a more realistic pit stop time.

[@johnathankain8033]

10 mins is a long stop for me on the road. Im almost always on my own on trips.

[@maximilianholland]

Good review. An ERROR with your MG 10 minute recharge mileage statement - 3.9 kWh gained is equivalent to 12.48 miles range added, not the 5 miles as you stated. Also, in ideal conditions the MG has been measured charging at 76 kW DC (search Fastned MG ZS Graph), so roughly the same as the Kia's peak charge rate. However, with the MG, that high power is only for a short early peak, and then the MG tapers off, but should stay above 50 kW until around 46% state of charge n decent conditions.

[@mikecarter2737]

Good overview. Where a car is made and how is also important. Union members, for example, would not want to be seen in a Tesla. Nobody should do a DCFC comparison starting at 50% SOC - on Bolt and newer Leaf, for example, you are already in the Amperage penalty box. Plus battery temp must be optimized, which is hard in some BEVs with no battery temp indicator.

[@jimmys6566]

the 10 minute charge comparison is a farce and the video should be pulled

[@Clarencebeeks89]

Hi, Can you explain fast charging please ! I’m just about to order this vehicle,is fast charging the cable or the power point? I live near a 22W street electrical point & near a electric lamppost. Can I fast charge from there ?

[@FalkinerTim]

@Wooly Chewbakker If you are using a normal home power point could you not buy a simple timer for ten or fifteen dollars and set it to charge in off-peak times?

[@FalkinerTim]

@Wooly Chewbakker Yes, I see. Thank you.

[@wayneheyes4934]

And how will it cope in winter weather ? Cold freezy mornings ? Snow weather etc ?

[@bjrn-steinarhanssen2102]

No problems. MG has PDC, and Kia got heatpump/compressor. Same system as an AC. MG has a liquid cooled motor, and that heats the battery. togheter wit the PDC, itkeeps the battery ok. Tested the MG in Tromsoe, North Norway, and it was warm and comfy. The rebound on the rear axle was not so good, on the beaten surface after lorries with ice chains. A buddy got the KIA, and he is werry happy with it. Specially with the preheat function on the app, witch the MG is missing.

[@adamterry3430]

MG IS THE BEST

[@marklola12]

Monthly prices of EV cars are still way dearer than what they should be, if love a EV but on lease they all are beyond stupid prices compared to petrol cars, so I ended up opting for a ds3 cross back prestige 1.2 petrol on 24month lease, 8k miles a year allowance which is more than what I need personally anyway but the 5k was a tad low. being a new car and ill have it less than 3 years I wont need a MOT doing or be paying car tax and full breakdown cover is included all for £147 a month even on a decent used EV on pcp where id hand it back the monthly charges are always higher with a less chunk payment at the end if I were to keep it when petrol cars the monthly payments are usually cheaper with a bigger chunk at the end if I wanted to keep it which I wouldn't The UK needs to sort its prices out along with lease and used car companies trying to screw people out of money Maybe after the 2 years EV market will be better along with charging etc in the UK...wont hold my breath

[@barryhaeger4284]

Vick has incorrectly stated the max DC Rapid Charge Rate. The MG ZS EV has a max of 80 kW although because of the charge curve the max rate is only achieved from about 20% State of Charge (SOC) up to the 50% SOC which interestingly was the point at which in the test Vicky plugged in. A further inaccuracy was that although MG Motors only supplies one of the two cables you might need it is not the one Vicky mentioned. Frustrating I know to have to dig in your pocket for another cable when you buy the car but the supplied cable is the 3 Pin EVSE Charging cable to charge from a regular domestic plug. Home chargers will often come with the high-speed 7kW Type 2 cable attached. However, if you want to use the more common Street chargers also increasingly found in many supermarket carparks for customers then you will need to purchase a Type 2 to Type 2 cable available widely for less than £150 which is significantly better than the cost of a 3 pin (EVSE) cable Vicky said you would need to buy.

[@aystertube]

Not that fair a test, obviously a car costing £7000 more is going to be better, or should be! A few inacuracies around the MG I noticed,, charge speed is upto 80kwh, useable battery is 44.5kwh and you get the 3 pin cable but not the type 2. The bonging and excessive warnings have now been fixed through a software update ( as of June 2020), the 0-60 is more like 8.0 secs, I personally prefer the MGs cabin to the Kia Soul's, but thats subjective really, agree on the touchscreen, while its vibrant, the responsiveness can be a little slow, I believe the recent software update I mentioned has improved this, though as of writing my car hasn't had that update yet so can't comment on that, also the MG should have got a point on the praticallity side as its boot is a lot bigger and and the back seats also have more room, though you can't beat the soul for headroom! For the money, the MG is a great buy and I've not regretted getting it over the Kia e-niro I was originally looking at (plus they are available without the year long waiting list!!)

[@richardwaller7721]

Great review as always and absolutely right to highlight the importance of efficiency. Not convinced by the approach of companies like Ford to boost the range of their new Mach E by adding a bigger battery (up to 99kWh). With the majority of “rapids” in the UK being 50kW (if you’re lucky), I’m not sure owners will be impressed having to stop for 90 mins plus for a charge when making a long journey!

[@hindesite]

Cabin noise seems noticeably quieter in the Kia.

[@watch_megnos2870]

on looks tho Kia looks weird, i recently went and bought a MG EZ EV and its much better then what you say since the faults have been fixed in the recent versions of the MG EZ EV Luxury, feel like this reviewer is quite a big fan of KIA

[@peterh1875]

it would be nice to see some metric numbers given, too. My Merc. EQC uses kwh/100km (between 18 and 24, it varies) which sits just above the 3.5miles/kwh you quote there 2.5 mins into the video. Also would not hurt to quote range in km as well... Unless you really want to keep with the spirit of Brexit or something.

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Charging ges slower as battery reaches 100% and with the 10 minute charging challenge you make no reference to the battery percentage of each vehicle.

[@kishorerajurkar2271]

Your videos are very informative. In India Tata motors have developed an EV called NEXON EV . Range 312 km . 30 kV battery. Cost is 16000 pounds.

[@darrenmakin6105]

Good to see real world range testing.

[@MyRealNameIs]

Great video I would love to see more of these elaborate comparissons. Great job Vicky 👍

[@nickevans7049]

rubbish

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Bjorn told mg to get rid of the bongs he has one in thailand. When he goes there.

[@ruudkraan7072]

And the winner is KIA, the best car electric of the year. SUPERCAR.

[@oliverhagvall4641]

Can you please use km aswell in you videos.

[@casperhansen826]

If it is going to be your only car then the MG is out of the question, lack of rapid charging is and lack of distance means that it is not suitable for even small trips to the countryside. The Kia or its twin hyundai kona is a much better choice for that but then you are close to the Tesla Model 3 which is a much better option with better distance and faster charging. We only have one car in the family so that would be my choice.

[@fleyua7176]

For the price, Kia's are cheaper and have a better range than. The base model 3. That and it come with a heat pump. Kia's also come closer to the EPA range than the Tesla. Having driven them, the kia is certainly better when it comes to aspects of driving with the paddle and regen. Rolling along he highway rather than heavy Regen is more efficient.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Very, Very happy to see Kia making much progress with electric.....BUT front wheel drive is not right for electric cars....Hoping that Their new Habaniro is either rear wheel or all wheel drive.....My first electric may well be Volvo's new XC40 recharge with all wheel drive........Ain't giving up My OUTBACK for ANY front wheel drive car....Do favor the looks of Kia's Habaniro over the XC40......Paul

[@mumtazkhan4191]

You are doing really well deserve 3 million subscribers

[@johnhodge1263]

Using private road for consumption test is not real world such as stop and go traffic conditions.!!

[@TheGokki]

I've looked at Kia's offering but their options are rediculous - thousands of €s just to add the touchscreen... or some cosmetic bodyparts. Not worth considering, might aswel buy a tesla then

[@wobby1516]

A Tesla is quite a lot more when you add the inevitable extras, the larger battery has to be taken into account when looking at cost difference, it’s not just the extra fancy bits. Plus in view of what we are going through now I’d never buy Chinese.

[@Dustin-ps6ol]

@@wobby1516 Is Kia Chinese? : )

[@98dizzard]

@@Dustin-ps6ol no Kia is South Korean. but the MG is chinese

[@wobby1516]

Dustin 2017 No, it’s Korean as is Hyundai, they would be most upset if they were considered Chinese

[@Dustin-ps6ol]

@@wobby1516 since i thought MG was British.

[@timsmith5339]

It has baffled me since the first Chinese MG why they use the MG name for their most un-MG like cars. I get that an established name is worth something in marketing terms, but surely only if it is relevant. Wouldn't it have made more sense to buy a name that reflected the cars they were going to make? Lada perhaps? I can see no marketing advantage to putting a great name on a second rate car, it only reminds you that it isn't as good as it could be.

[@martynmorris8160]

Blinkered? Refusal to move with the times?

[@timsmith5339]

@@martynmorris8160 I don't understand your point. Who is blinkered and not moving with the times? I would say that the owners of MG certainly are. I just think that they could have saved themselves a shed load of money and called their car anything they liked without losing any marketing value, or made better use of the name and continued to produce cars that were in keeping with the name.

[@timsmith5339]

I've thought about this some more (too much time during lock down!), and think I could ask the question more clearly. Was buying the MG name a good investment? I can think of two types of people who know the MG brand and would therefore be influenced by it. Those who liked what it was, sportier versions of ordinary cars. And those who are looking for what the company now makes, worthy cars of incredible value that are not sporty in any way. The first might be attracted to the showroom but will walk out disappointed and no sale will be made. The second will walk past the showroom because they don't realise that MG is now making the car they are looking for, no sale is made. There is at least a little stalling of the marketing while people shift what the MG brand means in their mind. Would it not have been better to start with a new name that carried no baggage? I accept the Lada name would not have been good, it carries negative baggage, at least to me, but when they bought out Austin/Rover they surely bought many other names, Austin, Morris, Triumph and others. With my limited marketing knowledge I wonder if one of those names would have been better for their purposes. Tim

[@scottgruber589]

Great video. Are any if theses cars have cooling and heating for the battery or is it like the Leaf passive?

[@richardhathaway2901]

I'm sorry but I just stopped watching this after about five minutes. The Kia s £9000 more than the MG. That's NINE THOUSAND POUNDS! Of course it charges quicker and does more miles and has more bells and whistles. This is not a fair comparison - in fact it is not a necessary comparison. It serves no purpose whatsoever.

[@SandyMorris-n3i]

Agreed totally pointless

[@mrrahman366]

Hi from UK, London, very much novice. So appreciated. I am looking to buy a new car for my new family additions. Family of 4. I need to buy a car will take me to work and back daily bases and shopping with space to put grocery and pushchair. I do not drive to long either. So driving for such a long period does not effect me. I am also a family on budget. SO I ask what would be reasonable and better. Advise please.

[@briankavanagh7191]

@knowledge share Tesla will never lower their prices regardless of what Elon say's and still out of reach of the average family.

[@mikeuk4130]

Why this reviewer obsession with the regeneration level? Set in on max, then do what you would do in an ICE car and lift off according to how much deceleration you want. It's like overrun, but better. There's no point in losing potential regenerated energy, and thus reducing your range, whilst pissing the energy away by converting it to heat when you have to use the friction brakes. The pedals are not on-off switches. Drive gently and thoughtfully.

[@paulanderson79]

I agree. I cannot see the point in anything besides max regen braking. The acclimatisation time is a few seconds for anyone who drives regularly and looks more than two metres ahead :) Which I am sure Vicky does, but perhaps she's trying to help out the masses who are unfamiliar with EVs?

[@wobby1516]

I own the Hyundai Electric, much the same running gear as the Kia. If you use the footbrake on my car it actually does use some regeneration so it’s not just friction loss through the brakes. As for cost comparison it’s a little unfair because there’s a much bigger battery in the Kia, if you are doing a long journey its good to have that when bearing in mind that you’ll recharge at 20% up to 80% and that make a big difference.

[@quatrecheeze]

@@paulanderson79 the brake pedal also regens. You don't get more regen on the higher settings, only more when you lift the accelerator. Sometimes coasting is more efficient than regenerating.

[@paulanderson79]

@@quatrecheeze Surely 'lifting off' with regen on high would be the same thing as lifting off a bit more with regen in 'normal'? Dreadful terminology I'm using here!! My experience is with Tesla only, and I only drive one occasionally.

[@quatrecheeze]

@@paulanderson79 yes, feet off the pedals with regen on high would be the same as a little bit of accelerator. The question is can you easily find the point where you coast to conserve kinetic energy, I think that's easier with l lower amounts of regen. My usual approach is to flick back and forth between D and B on the Leaf.

[@BernardSamson-hf6fc]

The bias was toward the Kia which is £8000 more expensive. almost 30% of the MG cost. E.G. mention the plug in allowance for Kia state full price for MG. MG also pay for your home charger. All UK EV's are a rip off. Same products are 50% cheaper in China. The new Renault EV in China and India is £7999, Next year when we get it as a Dacia £21,000. FFS

[@andrewnatt1448]

Excellent vid, thank you

[@keithnewton8981]

Charging station app. There are plenty available you do not need a manufacture app in the real world even stranger all other reviewers have said that the car shows charging points? Maybe its a question of know how to use the sat nav. As for 1 pedal driven that a bit of gimic because in real world driving it does not work on the nissa leaf either. You should alway be planning to use your brakes. Otherwise your not a very good driver.

[@xchopp]

Wait -- did you steal the Fully Charged show logo?!

[@hambledonsurrey9814]

Yes, the frame grabbed it. Lawyers on the way to court now.

[@profmartin1967]

Comparing chalk with cheese. Anyone would expect more for their money if they are paying an extra £10000.

[@binomad1]

Or even more I paid 20.5K for my Exclusive from Vic Young in South Shields England and was delivered to my door in Central Scotland so saving is more than buying an overpriced KIA which to me is ugly IMHO....

[@1966human]

I prefer the look of the MG although I see the KIA is a better car

[@Prkshdarshan]

Mg zs ev is the best value of money ..

[@sajeewakalamba1796]

I feel that, it is unfair to compare these two cars as they are similar only in size. Kia Soul is 25% expensive than MG ZS. The world we live in, money rules everything. The more you pay, the better it gets. Instead we should compare equally priced cars to find out which one is worth paying the amount.

[@williamgoss4691]

Thks, very comprehensive.

[@AKA001]

It’s like Korea vs China at the World Cup football. A complete thrashing. Nonetheless, you get what you pay for and the fact that MG coming back from the grave, coming up with an almost complete EV is respectable. I’d have it next to our Model S as a runabout over the Kia. Because for Kia money you nearly get a much more desirable Model 3.

[@fleyua7176]

The kia has better range than the base model 3 sold for a higher price. Models 3 don't come as close to their rated range when compared to Kia's which is rated much more conservatively in multiple reviews. Tesla is simply hype.

[@AKA001]

@@fleyua7176 the Tesla is desirable. A Kia is not. But I'm happy for others to be happy with it. It is wise to not live beyond your means.

[@fredbouvet2913]

Using the MG brand has a reassuring aspect, it works better than "Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation". This car is 100% built in China :(

[@xguboekoberav1980]

Fred Bouvet ; Yes very. It’s kinda offensive....border line marketing scams. Also, if you shorten the original brand name it could be ; SAIC!

[@hambledonsurrey9814]

I think MG has no value as a brand - yet. When MG UK were in decline their brand was not one of quality nor performance - so its residual value when Shanghai bought it was slight. Now that there is no link in design or cache in the current MG brand then that residual value has evapourated. No one buys a new MG now because they loved the MGs before Rover trashed it. So if MG badge is on this car to disguise the Chinese origin then it will fail - everyone knows it is Chinese, and Chinese designed and built is a plus point... in which case they might as well call it SAI - it will have the same appeal.

[@xguboekoberav1980]

HambledonSurrey, i’m not gonna argue with you on ‘what you think’ has or hasn’t got any value. But they did not brand it MG for nothing now did they... The abbrev. SAIC is my joke btw....as in PSYCHE!

[@xguboekoberav1980]

You talk to much about ‘anyone’ and ‘everyone’ as if you know for sure. Also, ‘Chinese designed and built is a plus point’ ?!? Don’t you mean Japanese?

[@misswhitchurchandwetherbyp7247]

There is nothing reassuring in the name MG. It has no connection with this car. Most of us are writing our comments on a device made in China ( not Japan) - they make reliable high value products better than the UK did.

[@valdiswallace830]

Wait is it me or does that red suv looks like Mazda previous generation CX5

[@Arthur_Pint]

So the take away from this video is that if you want a decent mid sized EV get the Soul, but if you can't afford it go for the inferior but cheaper MG.

[@paddycoleman1472]

But the MG is £8K cheaper - that is a serious chunk of change... Personally, you would we better of spending this sort of money on a modern petrol car. With the Kia you are in Audi, BMW, Mercedes territory.

[@bharathreddy971]

Not a good review! Both cars are equally good ! You aren’t right in everything . May you should be comparing these cars or reviewing cars itself.

[@davidwoodhead8388]

What a splendid appraisal! I have really been impressed with this no nonsense comparison! FIRST CLASS

[@davidpearn5925]

We want an affordable small Tesla for a companion and don’t have to go down to any other.

[@garethedwards8744]

Is it just me or the maths in the ten minute charge test just don't add up to the additional range???

[@kchiasong1]

MG