Killer Instinct HYPR Bolts - 500 Grain Build - The Results are BEAUTIFUL!

[@ronaldstreiff6794]

Owned this bow for 48 hours.. Got it on Thursday, sighted it in on Friday (10 shots).. Saturday morning, opening day Sept 17th, climbed in my stand and cocked the bow.. As the sun came up, the right limb exploded!! Still in the cocked position and one limb shattered... Bought a new Bear Burner 420 crossbow so I didn't completely trash my opening weekend.. Heard this happened with this bow, but very few times.. Looks like I was the next one in line!!

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Sorry to hear that, Ron. Make sure to warranty your broken bow! Hope that’s the only hiccup in your season!

[@randyanderson2124]

All I read about are broken limbs for killer instinct crossbows. Hope they have this problem taken care of.

[@michaelcurtis8114]

My rule of thumb on suggested arrow weight starting out is at least 50gn higher than the advertised speed of your crossbow. I got this idea from the 325gn Mossy Oak arrows from Walmart with a 25gn lighted nock and 100gn broadhead totalling 450gn. I shoot a Barnett XP400. It's kinda my sweet spot for enough speed and kinetic energy. Thanks for the video man.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

I like it!

[@TheVerbiousOne]

Thanks for putting this together. I haven't hunted in years and got a KI Boss 405 for Christmas. This seems like the perfect combo for the upcoming deer season!

[@ML-ks2lj]

I won the same one ina raffle. Haven't shot any type of bow in about 15 years since my old darton wx600 broke

[@kurtglo]

KI does make a crossbow arrow that does weigh more than these: 1068-6. They are 350 grains without the field point or broadhead. If a person would add just a 150 grain field tip, you're at 500 grains already. Swhackers all the way! Add some #2 Nocturnal lighted nocks, and you will have some terrific FOC along with kinetic energy. If more people would follow your advise and build up a heavier crossbow arrow, we would see a significant drop of limbs splintering...

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

They do!! The HYPR KE. Haven’t tried them but looks like a great setup!

[@kurtglo]

@@draggindeeroutdoors Just ordered some. I'll be comparing them to some Bee's

[@kurtglo]

Well, I can honestly say that the KI HYPR bolts fly better than my Black Eagle Executioners especially at 40 yards or more.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

@@kurtglo that's awesome! Glad you like them!

[@boomerrangerron]

Great job on this video, and it's impressive accuracy! I noticed at the very end that you're using the inexpensive Universal Lighted nocks from China. I've recently discovered them, and not only do they fit tighter without any sleeves but the light up extremely bright! And they're easy to shut off with the small screwdriver that's included in the package! I'm so over the expensive BIG NAME BRANDS!

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Thanks, Ron! Glad you liked the video!

[@DevonReid-m1c]

What's the exact name of those china universal lighted knocks? Thanks!

[@mojorizn72]

Good info. New to archery hunting. Just bought the KI boss 405 and a pack of these bolts. Had already decided to go heavy with Ranch Fairy’s 3 blade 200 grain fixed from Sirius archery. Glad to see actual results from heavier setup. New sub here for sure.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

RF heads from Sirius are awesome. Glad you liked the video, sounds like you’re well on your way to a killer setup 👍

[@rexrice4496]

Good info. Short and concise. Thank you.

[@TODinWY]

Great video! I'm just getting into tuning and I'm learning a LOT from you. Keep the good stuff coming. I'm shooting a Killer Ripper, and up to this point it's been a grest bow, although it's a little hard to cock.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Thanks, T.O.D.! Glad you like your bow and have fun tuning your bolts 🤘

[@rexrice4496]

I shoot a KI riper 415. My bolt setup is: KI hypr ke bolt (350 grn), 125 grn. swhacker broadhead, and a 25 grn. Lighted nock. Equals a 500 grn. bolt. No messing around. Only other thing you could do is to spine index 'em so they all fly the same. I just saw a ad for the ki vital-x 430 with dsc crank for $349 - its a great time to be getting into crossbows.

[@brandomorphin6358]

They just released a 450 grain Hypr bolt. It’s called the Hypr KE.

[@randomcdude4430]

One thing I always do when tuning arrows is make sure the end is square. Any time I have an exposed shaft end, I run it on the arrow squaring tool. Even my inserts after I have glued them in and let them set. Obviously you might need some different grits sandpaper for some metals like brass or steel, but with some effort you can make them good and square too. I also find that I get LESS loosening of tips since there is more friction with the roughed up insert face. Factory processes yield pretty good metal products these days, but stuff still happens and can yield slightly off inserts (they often vary in weight right?). Unfortunately I don't have a great way to ensure that the tip or broadhead back is square, but if everything else on the shaft is square, it is easier to mitigate that. Do what you can right? I have seen you mention doing this in other videos, but my 2¢ is just with the inserts.

[@storyoc]

i got a li 405 last year-researched and decided to go w more weight bolts to decrease chance of bow limbs cracking sooo i ditched the hyperlite 270gr that came w the xbow and got 325gr mossyoak bolts and use a 125gr thunderhead broadhead from my compound days-thats 450gr total and it shoots way better than the lighter 270gr+100gr thunderhead setup-im sure its slower but i cant see it-i mean blink and its there-no shooters just spikes last season on public ground and i pass on does so cant tell bout penetration but the target says bam-hunt on

[@joefreeman6871]

If I wanted to run a heavier insert to keep my broadhead options open, can you recommend a weight to pair with your 110 .297 diameter brass inserts? Thanks for the video, recent subscriber and KI shooter!

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

I like 150 grain heads. A few of my friends run 125 with the 110 insert and that works as well.

[@joefreeman6871]

@@draggindeeroutdoors I'm gonna try and stick with my tried and true 100g Magnus Hornet Ser-Razors by adding 50g weights, thanks for inspiration for this weekend's tinkering!

[@christopherhull3757]

Thank you for your awesome work!!

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Happy to help if I can! Thanks for the comment and kind words, Chris.

[@joshuahatley5914]

I shot pile drivers with my 405 fatal crossbow 125grain and 350 20 inch bolts and wasn't getting enough pentration so ima try the 325 grain bloodsports 20 inch with 100 grain swacker broadhead

[@kward1911]

Great video! Question for you with building my crossbow bolt FOC setup. I'm going to stick with the stock bolts that came with my crossbow - 360 FPS. Trying to decide of which of the below 2 options to go with. FYI...I've took removed the brass insert and nock to weigh shaft with vanes for a total weight of 250 grains. My question is should I keep the stock 100gr insert for total bolt build of 525gr - OR - go with 110gr brass insert for total bolt build of 535gr? Would 535gr bolt be too heavy shooting out of a 360 FPS crossbow? Option 1: - Easton Carbon Bloodline Shaft/vanes = 250gr - Lighted Nock = 25gr - Easton factory insert = 100gr - Magnus Stinger Broadhead = 150rg Total Bolt Build = 525gr Option 2: - Easton Carbon Bloodline Shaft/vanes = 250gr - Lighted Nock = 25gr - Easton factory insert = 110gr - Magnus Stinger Broadhead = 150rg Total Bolt Build = 535gr

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Being only a 10 gr difference, I’d keep the stock 100 grain inserts in there and go 525. I think that is a fantastic setup for your bow. Glad you liked the video! Also, feel free to email me draggindeer@gmail, it’s easier for these detailed discussions 👍

[@kward1911]

@@draggindeeroutdoors I really appreciate you getting back with me. Thanks so much

[@fredbear205]

Excellent video friend!

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Thank you!! Much appreciated!!

[@randyanderson2124]

All i read about is busted limbs for KI crossbows. Has this problem been taken care of for the 2024 line of crossbows? Really interested in the vitalX.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

My X cam bows have been great!

[@flyfin108]

thank you

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

You're welcome, Fly Fin!

[@dwayneandrescavage983]

I find if you heat it up it likes to leave glue in the bolt. If you clean with alcohol and a brass pipe brush. I kept cracking the ends by forcing the insert in. Takes a little more time properly cleaning but lesson learned.

[@johnraynor5053]

What do you think about 150g inserts? I have lots of 100g broadheads so thought it might be a good option. Thanks

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

I think that would work very well!!

[@Lucky-si9hy]

Try ethics 140 grain spinning inserts with your 150 grain tooth of the arrow with some 22 in black eagle zombie bolts...you will be shocked

[@Djhoodrich.]

Can you please do a video on swat X1 maintenance and lubricant

[@GunnyArtG]

Just another caution: I needed to clock my broadheads for clearance out of my MXB360 so I used the heat and drill bit method but discovered the inserts in my bolt had a long aluminum shank that mushroomed and cracked the bolt.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Thanks, GunnyArtG. Just for everyone's knowledge, exactly what bolts were these?

[@GunnyArtG]

@@draggindeeroutdoors Spynal Tapp by Black Eagle I don't know the insert maker but it's about 4.5" long.

[@flyfin108]

@@GunnyArtG not sure if i remember right but you shouldnt need to mess with spynals :)

[@GunnyArtG]

@@flyfin108 I was needing to clock my broadheads for clearance.

[@flyfin108]

@@GunnyArtG you can shim broadhead with washers

[@fredrickjackson7788]

What lighted nocks do you us

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

There’s a link in the description!

[@mr.skeptical3071]

What about the bolts that have thier knocks and knock inserts glued in??

[@ML-ks2lj]

How do I find what the spine is in these KI bolts? I have the other ones can't remember the name right is they are the lighter ones with 1 green fletching

[@BarryMcCokiner47]

Do you have the specs on the KE inserts?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Inserts used in this video are 110 grain brass

[@flushot6513]

So is there different spine arrows or can you just throw 150 point weight with out under spin the bolt

[@stanleyjdc]

Is there any chance you tried the 200 or 250 grain field points for quality of flight? I’m trying to build to 600 grains, with the Fatal X. Thanks for this video, it’s great information.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Yes & no. With 22" shafts for my XP is really where I found this 110+150 "recipe." When I went over the 260 ish total up front with 22" shafts is where I started seeing perfect bullet holes turn into nock high tears. With that said, if you wanted to shoot the stock 65 grain HYPR bolt insert and a 200 grain point, that should work! I also think 20" bolts can handle more up front weight than the 22's, I just don't know how much more. Waiting on a new sirius ranch fairy test kit, once I get that I can tinker some more. Also, Tyree Appleberry has made HYPR and HYPR Lite bolts between 500-600 grains, reach out to him if you're looking for a recipe right now.

[@stanleyjdc]

Thank you so much for all the information. I really love your channel.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Thank YOU! Glad you like it and greatly appreciate your support!

[@henrymaccus]

John if you want to build a 20 inch arrow close to the 600 grain weight start with a heavy arrow like the pile driver. I found that they with the lighted nock and a 100 grain insert with a 150 grain broadhead shot well. They came in at 603 grains total.

[@Gunner_Smith23]

Have you ever shot a bare shaft at a few feet to see the natural rotation right off the bow?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

I have not. The fletched nock tune + upfront weight has always worked well for me.

[@brandoncrabtree1970]

Instead of having to change out inserts. Would just adding 200 grain field points and broad heads accomplish the same goal. Or would this negatively affect flight of the arrow?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Yes!!! It would accomplish the same goal. I personally like the 150 grain head size simply because there are more broadhead options in 150 vs 200. Thanks for the comment, Brandon.

[@brandoncrabtree1970]

@@draggindeeroutdoors Yes I am having trouble finding many 200 grain options. This is just a simpler and cheaper solution for me. Thanks for the great information

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

@@brandoncrabtree1970 Take a look at the Sirius Evolution 3 blade in 200 grains. These are premium heads, so they come with a higher price tag than ones you'd find at your local sporting goods store. But...they are a work of art (and razor sharp). I just bought some in 150 grains, video coming soon. Their profile, construction and material look like a perfect crossbow fixed blade head.

[@joel11230]

I’m curious as to why you call them bolts. Serious question, thanks

[@roynorman5179]

What size insert do you use on the hypr bolt

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

110 Grain Brass Inserts - amzn.to/3BKAm9m

[@henrymaccus]

What distance should you do the paper test at.

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

We do 5 - 7 yards

[@browningmontec]

Also what brand of lighted nocks are you using?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Also Amazon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2aQdmhogc5krqc

[@browningmontec]

Where did you get the weighted inserts?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Amazon, 110 grain brass inserts. They are hit or miss on there but I’ll add a link to the video description for ya.

[@outdoors-fun]

Man with a 110gr insert and 150gr broad head, your FOC must be over 20% ?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

Right about 20%

[@outdoors-fun]

@@draggindeeroutdoors When i put a 200grain on my Piledriver and paper test, it blows out (similar to the tuning you did with the piledrivers). 150gr seems to be the best, but thats only about 11% foc

[@buzzfrodge9936]

What glue are you using on your Inserts?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

www.siriusarchery.com/product/siriuslytuff-adhesive/ Real good stuff 👍👍

[@jamesfreeman2915]

What brand and size nocks and inserts are you using?

[@draggindeeroutdoors]

There are product links to all the stuff I used in the video description!

[@jamesfreeman2915]

@@draggindeeroutdoors I bought the 450 grain arrows, put 150 grain magnus stinger with the lighted nocks this thing is smacking man thankyou for the info

[@hix6791]

What brass inserts do you use? Thanks

[@bobbyboyce3887]

What inserts do you use

[@janneplanman6433]

I always wonder why nowadays averyone is after ultimate arrow-speed. I think that if people of the medieval ages could hunt the game with their slow-acting crossbows, then we can do so with our super fast modern crossbows with little heavier arrows that are 'heathier' to our equipment.

[@jamesfreeman2915]

I shoot a 425 ripper and would love some info on building a 500 grain arrow please help me? Lol

[@rexrice4496]

I shoot a KI ripper 415. I use KI Hypr KE bolts (350 grn.) plus a swhacker (125 grn.) broadhead, for a 475 grain bolt without any messing around. Get a 150 grn broadhead and you're all set. Good luck hunting.

[@timlambert9771]

Why not fill the bolt with sand. If it works. Give me a shot out.

[@eiotclub1690]

Looking forward to your reply, check your email. Cooperate