Killer Mountain Bikes & MTB Tech | Looks That Could Kill

[@TheBrokenMountainBiker]

I love the home built 6 cylinder motorbikes Allen makes! The guy is an engineering genius who quite frankly singlehandedly puts the major manufacturers all to shame!

[@Cheapsh0t247]

that Random tandem needs many more peeps on it, there are loads in the MTB world, but i reckon there might be tonnes of other celebs and athletes that would sign up. I am thinking it could be as big as Carpool Karaoke with a new Chat show style roll for Mart and A list tough actors being terrified as Mart takes then down a gnarly decent and scaring them into really interesting and honest answers as you have little ability to craft the typical prepared answers when locked into a berm

[@tomstech4390]

Still want some Super Monster-T's for my Solid Mission 9. Having 8in travel up front is a little wierd when you have 9.4 in the back.

[@hansfrick1717]

that sub5 fork looks really cool

[@gregfarley715]

Where are the Brooklyn Machine Works bikes?

[@Kozza-13]

My dad had the Scott octane but it only had a single shock and seat but there was an adapter like the old Kona dope system, One of my friends then bought it from my dad and he raced it in the SDA

[@galenkehler]

What do people not like about linkage forks? I didn't know about the quasar fork, but I just designed basically the same thing the other day as an idea for an xc fork

[@jimbob5b200]

The second bike technically has a Defazio linkage , my 125 scooter had one and an old fella showed me the same set on an old 1930s race bike !

[@luminousfractal420]

nicolai looks like it was built from upcycled cruise ship parts ..barnacles?

[@rickreynolds186]

Great show!

[@Tofusoldat]

Where is the Gott from Dreidoppel??

[@jakepaddyfield4767]

Back in the days, there was plenty of skills and less technology... nowadays, lots of tech and too little skills.

[@fatpinarellorider]

Where is the original video? Link please.

[@ElliotFlowers]

rushton u r fkn awesome!

[@MikeHawksThrobbin]

Sam pilgrim looks rough

[@dankmacloud6313]

Probably nitrogen in the shock

[@robertkoleczko3987]

My first suspension fork, 1992,was an Elastomer fork, made by scott. In these days, all Elastomer Forks had the same problem! You literally had no damping! Just Nothing!! Physics teaching us : Force A goes in, Force A goes out, without any slower speed reaction 🤮🤮😁😁🤣🤣👍‼️

[@SingleTrackMined]

Anti-dive = a solution that makes things worse. I want dive when I brake. Generally, I'm turning after/during braking so the dive steepens the fork for quicker turning right when I need it and as I come out of the corner it slackens back for stability. I had motorcycles in the 80s with anti-dive mechanisms. They stiffened the fork exactly when I wanted suppleness. Never understood the thinking. I run Fox forx on all my mtb's now...no anti-dive, near perfection

[@mtbboy1993]

It's to keep the geometry more constant and to keep steering chsraristics too, syeepening the head angle results in more sensitive steering, on a old bike thst already had steep head angle making it even steeper cus of dive made the already horrible steering, alot worse, but modern bikes have so slack head angle and good geometry, sizing the bikes are easier to ride and stay balanced, easier to turn and steering is not super sensitive, it requires more rider input to turn, but it still won't be hard to turn, you can still corner fast, so all of this means rider does not have to fight the bike like old school bikes. But still with dive the modern bikes are easy to turn, even if you run the fork locked out or a rigid fork it will still be quick steering but won't and yet not be too witchy just as with fork setup properly. But I've not tried an antidive fork on my bike. I have a EXT ERA now. There is no way I would downgrade to a old school geometry. I love Nicolai/Geometron G1. Well balanced, perfect fit, well made. I've not tried linkage forks, but I saw some posts, and also mentioned in older episodes, a dude is developing a single leg linjage fork, it uses a shock.

[@garyofficer329]

The millyard was and still is way ahead of it's time. Best bike ever made.

[@joski9030]

The mans a genius his motorcycle engine builds are awesome

[@richardgoddard37]

He's got a KZbin channel. He is an absolute genius.

[@Steph.98114]

Dude came into the industry, made something light years ahead and then left leaving everyone gobsmacked

[@garyofficer329]

@@Steph.98114 . It has always puzzled me why they never went into production with them or why he didn't get approached by one of the big manufacturers at the time.

[@sepg5084]

@@garyofficer329 are you sure that he did not get approached at all? Maybe he was approached and was not able to agree on a deal.

[@nickmassey9104]

When you go see the millyards Doddy take martyns Bowhead and let Alan look at the front end to see if he can make it not so nose heavy for martyn and a video of you riding the red modern geometry bike please. awesome video guys

[@lukesolomon3010]

We need more of the random tandem. That milyard is just a work of art. I know some one who still runs a sub fork he loves it

[@theliquidstate3216]

The X-Lite bike did race, I saw the guys on it at Innerleathen years ago!

[@mattfitzpatrick5146]

Can’t beat the old Brooklyn Machine Works beasts, industrial madness with pedals that eat shins

[@edh7492]

In the early 2000’s you had to have a foot long Tioga DH saddle and factory 2.3”s if you were going to be taken seriously around here 😎

[@msagoo29]

I remember having the USE suspension seat post when I was a kid. The thing exploded under me, I soiled myself

[@SingleTrackMined]

I'm still running one on a 90s Mongoose Alta. Great seatpost but then mine has never exploded.

[@howlsy6388]

I’d love to see you guys watching Benders old clips and reacting to them, I dare say it would be very entertaining! Any chance of that video chaps?

[@edh7492]

Retro mtb vid reaction vid 👌 Edit: So we’re talking Down and Double Down, Sprung 1-5.1, Real Sick, Mud Cows etc… Give these kids some cultural education ✌️

[@teambailalot8468]

Youve literally listed every bike I wanted as a young kid reading MBUK (with the omission of the whyte prst1 and the Brooklyn machine works) the mad Nicolai bikes and karpiels used to make me drool!

[@dougschwamb9653]

I enjoyed this segment tremendously, this resulted in multiple layers of awe being added to my over 40 yrs of a combination of doing and watching. At times I've worried about the soul of mountain biking fading away but you two gentlemen have appeased that concern, thanks

[@dylan-5287]

Halloween episodes are my favorites from gmbn. Last year's was hilarious. Love the deep dive on retro mtbs. I could watch doddy getting into the details on a retro bike for hours haha. So interesting to see how the sport evolved and where it came from.

[@benhockey380]

That red millyard bike ❤️🥵

[@AnthonyIlstonJones]

You'd be surprised how many people in eastern Europe (particularly Ukraine & Russia) bought the Karpiels & similar frames. There was a freeriding movement known as 'Streetetz' that demanded seriously strong equipment, it's where a lot of the old Monster-Ts and Azonic Doublewides went.

[@TheButlerNZ]

1994 Foes LTS. If Buck Rogers rode downhill...

[@sitonka303]

Looking forward to the Millyard video. That thing is mental

[@outdoorsandiego]

I want to.see the Millard and the structure cycleworks in action

[@MrDiabeticsugardaddy]

@@outdoorsandiego Jordan Boostmaster tried structure cycleworks at whistler a few years back on his channel!

[@johnykryll]

Not sure why DH bikes need pedals? If you deleted them you'd just have pegs as MX bikes and rear sus would be completely sorted. I suppose they wouldn't be bicycles anymore but they hardly pedal on the way down anyway

[@RoadRageRod]

call it eggbeater and it is suddenly functional

[@cchimozmin]

Brooklyn Machine Works?

[@edwardbentley3512]

Allen Millyard is a legend, his work is amazing.

[@Putrakokop]

Woow amazing 🚴 thank you for sharing

[@gmbntech]

Thanks for the support, Putra! 👍

[@Metal-Possum]

The story behind Allen Millyard and his rear shock is that the technology is so old and freely available that nobody could put a patent on it, making it unattractive to the likes of Fox or Rockshox who want to continue selling incremental upgrades and protected IP as part of their competitive nature with other brands. Not to mention, major manufacturers do things differently, not just so we can be cynical about it, but also because that's just how some businesses need to operate.

[@Surestick88]

I've always been curious about the design of that shock, especially how the damping is done but there's a dearth of information about how it actually works inside. The high pressure gas spring is fairly easy to understand, basically an oleo I imagine, but I'm curious about the damping. Based on comments here and there from people that have ridden the thing I'm leaning towards position sensitive orifice damping, possibly using a variable area channel cut into the wall of the oil chamber without any shims or anything. Kind of like a sophisticated recoil damper on a piece of field artillery. Watching Allen Millyard's KZbin channel I get the feeling the mystery surrounding it was him being a bit mischievous if the tech is so well known. I guess I could always buy an Intend shock and take it apart but they're a bit rich for my blood.

[@allanbuchan6947]

Josh Bender created Rampage technically .

[@Wannaridebikes]

I wanted that Tiago saddle …I won the front fender with the same black with white stripe.

[@jimdandy4329]

Tioga?

[@tim__sadler]

Awesome episode... But what does the Green Button on the wall do? Hmmmmm

[@vieuxacadian9455]

Alas , the Girvin vector fork .

[@yolosubmarine]

Oh wow, I still own a Tioga stripe seat.

[@vieuxacadian9455]

Beauty is in the performance .

[@ashleytombs]

No offence to the legend that is Josh bender but what of the chances of Josh Being born under a full moon and at 12 o’clock and the Midwife pulling a big power handle And saying it’s alive oh sorry it’s boy You cannot have Halloween without Mentioning bender and his trusty sidekick dangerous Dan the trails those boys built Will send shivers down your spine And if you ever ridden one of the trials more than likely you’d have no spine left building 15 foot drops To flat seemed a good idea at the time LOL

[@lihtan]

I've seen the Structure Cycleworks bike in person, and chatted with one of the guys from the company at a bike show 3 years ago. Although it's odd looking, I predict that this will eventually be the future of bikes.

[@Ry_Rides]

You forgot a more recent one! Jannick Lange's DIY Commencal Supreme with Pinion Gearbox - mental.

[@calinr1686]

Oh man, that "Praying Mantis" is the coolest thing I've seen on 2 wheels🤤🤤🤤. For the love of biking, I want one, please🙏🙏🙏!

[@crisprapper]

This video is basically "90s bike designers took a whole lot of chances hoping to hit something that works"

[@kona0197]

A few that should have made the list are the Whyte PRST and the Christini AWD bicycle.

[@307.William]

#gmbn watch jordan boot master Franken monster bike.

[@mtbboy1993]

Jordan Boostmaster

[@Beloglazovalex]

George bender style! In moskay we call it "crtitec" стритец

[@JoeyRock333]

What do you think about the Klein Mantra? I have both the Mantra Comp and the Mantra Pro (Aluminum and Carbon). They still turn heads after 20 years.

[@ravennexusmh]

that blue and silver chainsaw looking nicholi had an avalance fork, they were masssive money back then

[@GeorgeMilkasIgore]

You forgot to mention that Nicolai bike also has a disk brake like a cutting saw !! hahaha Definitely looks like a Halloween bike 😂

[@JR-ii4lq]

I've a headache now, thaaaanks.

[@Folk661]

Missed one. The Ellsworth Dare from 2002 was a thing of true beauty.

[@porotoserio]

does millard also uses an alfine as a gearbox?, justa as thw gt bike. and what about the lahar? alien rocketship amazing bike.

[@AmaroqStarwind]

7:53 Shocking. I see what you did there. I bet those shocks are filled with SF₆

[@giantslug6969]

The Millyard Bike is mindblowing and it's a shame that he isn't making bank off of bigger companies licensing his design.

[@Tricklarock]

The Quasar ff - there's was no spring under that rubbah?!?! Daaaaaamn!

[@Pillokun]

well current MTB's have never been more like a motocross than today. The geo that is. The thing that is still not there is the use of smaller rims with much fatter tires like on a dirtbike and ofcourse smaller wheel at the rear, ie a mullet bike but we kinda already are there to some degree :P

[@pedromac0741]

20:01 is fun. the bike looks tough. would be nice as cranked expedition tandem.

[@scalemodelconcepts7644]

Wow forgot About Tioga skunk walls. Good rims!

[@iaguilera67]

how many forks are there on a bike? that people have to say front fork, is there a fork in the rear as well?

[@patrickgrounds2157]

Alan Millyard is an engineering genius. Check out his channel.

[@zoltankorossy2957]

So, how can I win a ride on the back on Martyn's tandem?

[@mikemcclellan8979]

I'm still rocking one of those Tioga rims on my hardtail. Been abused for 20+ years and still runs great with my V-brakes.

[@AnthonyIlstonJones]

I have a pair of them in 24 inch on my '04 Patriot, they're pretty solid. I always managed to bend the rails on the seats though, I had several of them throughout the noughties. Only seat I found more comfortable was the Azonic Hotseat.

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

That's sick I'm also running vintage tomac rims on my street dh bike 😆

[@모빌란트]

kill me haha

[@AmaroqStarwind]

Now I want to see a Grave Digger themed bike.

[@chrisruss8332]

The Millyard bike is pretty damn rad!

[@izzy1446]

the kirk magnesium " thing " , " evolution " ,visually the most beautiful bike ever made , i built one up to exhibition standard , rode it two miles and then sold it on , it was a rubber bike in disguise .

[@MrJasonodonnell]

I saw one in a store in N.Z in the middle of nowhere Early 90's, store guys were blown away I knew about it at 13, Store Owner said no you cant ride it....But I will totally let you lift it. We both had a laugh when I picked it up. I learnt that day you can say no to somebody and still be a yes guy.

[@MrCyphermonkey]

Think the x-lite bike was run at a few British events

[@lancerivaille5433]

nicolai bikes look like they have a freebie chainsaw in it

[@pressrolls]

A million thumbs up guys! Love it!

[@MichaelAbramo]

The Millyard is amazing. The X-Lite prototype could possibly have worked well if they just chopped off the seat and didn't put on a seat at all. Standing only. Check out what Lal Bikes are doing. Traditional derailleur without a hangar tensioner.

[@boddhi610]

Balfa from Montréal :)

[@jimdandy4329]

The BB7 was a cool one

[@marcalvarez4890]

Im a XC super light bike kinda guy...i won't buy a bike over 25 pounds...but that dark blue Nikolai....pure gorgeousness! Its like seeing the first fish with legs that would later become land animals. Pure design engineering porn.

[@kps666de]

I think we'll look back on 29ers some day like on 12" forks nowadays. well they where fast but WTF? (shitstorn on the horizon)

[@JustBens]

Randem Tandem with Rob Warner is my fave GMBN vid ever..so funny and heartwarming seeing rob and martin playing and laughing like kids together again

[@gnrendeiro]

I’m a proud owner of a Nicolai Nucleon ST, so I need to put my vote on that one! :) It is super strange to me that they did not include any of the crazy Brooklyn Machine Works projects, you have the TMX with moto seat, the rubber duckie and the Big Link which are ultra extreme FR bikes, just bonkers… and then you have a working 30 foot or so long BMX which would easily be the most extreme bike I have ever seen. It was built for a tv ad or something and it was the size of a school bus and they had to take a team of people to ride it around Brooklyn.

[@jimdandy4329]

Shimano pneumatic shifters

[@chrisridesbicycles]

Not so obvious but I‘d put in the first Scott Ransom with their self designed shock. I had to run this with almost 40 bars of pressure and pumping it up already made me sweat - from the force the pump required but also from the fear of explosion. One day the hose of the pump exploded with a bang and left my ears with beeeeeeeeeeep.

[@NitroCyclist]

Didn't you think that removing the boot from the forks was a bad idea and marketing, I do not think that a good boot will keep dirt inside the forks (the old Lefty and Fatty showed that the boot works fine if you do it right!) besides in a fork with a sealed boot no oil seal or boot is needed and it will work smoother! Don't laugh, please, but I tried to attach a condom to the fork ^ _ ^ and it was super clean under it even after a month of riding and everything was great until it broke on a branch)

[@sionjones1675]

Ooh, oldschool DH bikes, particularly the weird ones, on modern DH courses, is an EXCELLENT idea for a feature! Let's see how things have advanced, and how they compare.

[@Surestick88]

I can't be the only one that loves the look of the Quasar or Girvin Vector forks. The Millard bike is also gorgeous. King of a cross between an MTB, a Moulton folding bike, and a trellis-framed Ducati.

[@juluisreyes9094]

What about the laufd fork guys

[@robertwall9561]

The Honda bikes that Greg Minnar rode, and the Brooklyn Machine Works bikes.

[@codydavenport8429]

Josh Bender taking 55 foot drops meanwhile I'm trying to find the courage to ride a 4 foot drop with a nice smooth landing.

[@truman5838]

I want a Nicolai Nucleon Dh

[@LaurenceGough]

Come on, when are we going to get a shock as good as the Millyard's one for the public to use, I want one badly! Sounds like the progress we need.

[@ACE-xr4jz]

Nucleon DH drove awesome

[@mrmagoo.3678]

is that Karpiel the bike from that Old Mountain biking computer game?..i'm sure the BEST downhill bike you could get on the game was a Karpiel?.. I'd never heard of them years back though.

[@kaltonian]

omg...i want those king fisher coloured tyres off that Specialized mtb 3mins into this upload , a little wider & yeah they would awesome with my bianchi coloured mtb

[@freequest]

Seen a fork like that on a Touring Fatbike, but the fork was inverted, and the wheel was connected to it. And it did a fantastic job.

[@vydkeryx5660]

Blake's hand built, hardtail "CRAB" is self-described as ScArY !!!

[@kimrice394]

U S E Sub-5 fork 😍. Make a double leg version… it will SELL!

[@bushnut8305]

Lahr bikes from NZ

[@davedelarosa319]

Had to stop in the middle to once again sing the praises of Allen Millyard. Carry on.

[@matt_acton-varian]

Let's face it. Most of the reason that the Random Tandem made this list is it's pilot! Martyn Ashton is an animal behind the bars!