Killer Realizes Victim Solved Her Own Murder

[@reneep2641]

I had a serious fall inside my house when i was by myself. I had injuries to my pelvis and legs and was in immense pain. I yelled out help once then passed out I know all this because i have camera's. Within 2 minutes 3 of my neighbours were trying to get in and police and ambulance was called. One neighbour jumped my 6 foot high fence and crawled through the doggy door and was by my side in 5 minutes time. Amazing people. It happened to be the first time we all met properly. Now we are all great friends.

[@ewaayomiadesola2777]

So thankful you have good neighbors.

[@Megz2k]

This is a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it and I’m so glad you’re doing better!

[@spongemonkeysooz]

Wow! Can I move next door? Once I was walking my dog and realized 2 coyotes had split up an were coming from 2 directions. I screamed GET THE F@@K OUTTA HERE OVER AND OVER, saw an lit up enclosed porch and crossed the street to go to their door. When I looked back I couldn't see them but now I didn't know where they were 🥺 I live in a cop and firefighter neighborhood and not one person came out! Another time I kicked an uneven sidewalk, took a running fall and broke my thumb in 2 places, hit my forehead, lip and knees. (but I never let go of my phone or my dogs leash) 😳😕 Blood was flowing like crazy and I could have called 911 but I wanted to get Wiggy home. I left a trail of blood and made it home but once again no one heard or saw me or came out. Being alone sucks 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mariah.moniii]

Thank God for good neighbors! But wow what an ice breaker 😂

[@KoreyVerga]

I rolled my foot and both knees, tore ligament in my foot and months later if I stay in one position too long I look like a 90 year old trying to walk. I yelled once and three neighbors broke out my window to help me.

[@bell5497]

I called the police when i heard what sounded like a woman being murdered and someone laughing in between screams in the park behind my apartment complex. That park has a steep drop off that views the city and is a popular place for car dates. The police came and investigated and it turns out it was just some teens practicing their "horror movie screams" for tik tok. I have no regrets. The girls were fine. At the end of the day, if it feels wrong, just call.

[@azareya19]

Is this I’m California?

[@arolf2524]

It is the most unnerving thing to hear someone crying for help. Happened to me late one night when I was lying in bed reading. I could hear noises from the large vacant allotment next door and I thought people might be having a party. Then the words penetrated. I just heard, "Help me, help me," a couple of times. I phoned the police and they did come around, walked all around the allotment and streets, but didn't see anything. Still worries me, but I don't have any regrets either.

[@meganr9280]

@@arolf2524you have to be careful too because some sickos lure others out of their house with “cries”. Yall be careful out there. Crazies can turn on good Samaritans too.

[@Nesia187]

Called the police once in the middle of the night because I heard some guy screaming ‘help’ like he was in pain, several times (this was a very occupied apartment building btw so I KNOW the neighbors heard). I looked out the window and It was coming from a nearby field, so it felt off. After calling 911, I went to investigate with my ex and turns out it was just some drunk guy having a hard time getting up after presumably falling 😅 Still worth it.

[@micclay]

I mind my business.

[@Youre-Welcome]

You hear a woman screaming for an extended period of time and because she didn't say "help" you don't call police?!?!?! WTAF

[@Menuki]

Never heard of Kitty Genovese, huh?

[@robertfalcone3025]

​@@MenukiDamn..I just had a flashback...I'm a lifelong NYC resident & I STILL remember the Kitty Genovese story..it was one of the stories that gave NYC residents the reputation of being able to IGNORE anything that's going on around them..& basically "Mind their OWN business" ..& while I admit that there are NYC residents that believe that you're asking for trouble by getting involved... I've NEVER been one of them..& I've thrown some POS off the subway for harassing an old woman on the subway as well as standing up to a group of juvenile delinquents who were attempting to rob some innocent tourist looking people...I believe that KARMA will either reward or punish you according to your actions in life.

[@josephwickham1989]

What the ass fuck? Never heard wtaf before. Wtf is normal not wtaf

[@Menuki]

@@josephwickham1989 What the Actual Fuck, is how I read it

[@martlettoo]

Two times I called cops for a woman screaming from the direction of a house nearby, one time saying something like " no, please". Nothing came of either. Cops just didn't seem to know what to think of it or care. I won't call again unless I know it's really serious, because they just assume you're nuts or a problem caller yourself if it's not still happening. As if murders or abuse or whatever always takes longer than ten minutes. That might be why people don't call. Nobody actually treats it like "better safe than sorry".

[@gemamima24]

His denial to the end is actually crazy as hell

[@Missstrish]

So crazy right???

[@willbear2173]

"AAAAH STOP MURDERING ME RIGHT NOW YOURE LITTERALLY STABBING ME IN THE FACE WITH A KNIFE" Neighbor: What could this mean ?

[@geovaniraffaelli4508]

This whole situation is horrible and I feel for the victim but your comment made me laugh. People like that neighbor are clueless

[@willbear2173]

Also "She's alive. She's just on a mission to save the president's daughter so I can't tell you where she is but she went to a hospital/offsite place/none of those two because she's into essential oils."

[@Belovedfire]

@@willbear2173what, bro stories is not adding up

[@MrKanti-yy5ux]

Let's unpack that real quick.

[@xqzvz]

The fact that you only got that out of this video is pretty telling

[@Sujjin21]

I heard a woman screaming one night when I was in my garage. I'd actually been sharpening some tools so grabbed my phone and my knife. Some guy was dragging this woman across her lawn and, unknown to me at the time, had already killed their pet. I yelled out, he looked up and realized it wasn't just me... But 2 other neighbors who had come to investigate. 2 of us armed and 1 already on the phone with police. I'll never understand how people can hear something like that and just ignore it. Shout out to my fellow neighbors who backed me up ✊️ you guys some real ones Edit: Wow 😳 this comment blew up. Thank you for the kind words y'all. I've been reading through the comments and the stories you guys have to share and im so sorry some of you had to go through similar abuse 😔 people can really suck sometimes. We gotta keep looking out for one another. Stay safe everyone 🙏 ❤️

[@HarperSophia]

holy sht :O

[@MistahJ100]

Did he get arrested?

[@Nibs333]

Very neighborly 👌

[@funkfl0w3r]

god bless you❤

[@Sujjin21]

@MistahJ100 Oh yeah, he got arrested. His friend/brother/whatever whipped around in a car, he jumped in, and they dipped before the cops showed up. But we had the make/model and the plate # so they didn't get far.

[@poshy9645]

I called the cops just yesterday because I heard screaming across the lake, (I don’t know the neighbors ) Turns out, she accidentally left the car in Neutral and it rolled back on her while she was removing the garbage bin out the driveway. Her husband came to thank me, I’m the only person that made a phone call. The woman was screaming bloody murder and just 1 person called? The world is messed up.

[@Criminalmindset1]

Worlds a messed up place right now

[@halroxdynasty8683]

I stg! People think we live in a simulation or something 🙄 glad you called!

[@SallinKari]

Yeah, lots of people seem to think that since they're not involved, they're not getting involved. Same effect as when someone collapses on the sidewalk, and everyone keeps walking.

[@Platypus_Warrior]

I feel paranoid sometimes thinking something very bad will happen soon. Wars around the world, hatred increasing everywhere, population increasing so fast, people on their phone all the time.... This is not progress, it's the end of a civilization

[@lizolson282]

Thanks to law suits!​@@SallinKari

[@bottomendbliss]

When the neighbour said " She screamed long and loud, no, stop it hurts, i didnt call the cops" i headed straight to the comments.

[@SouthpawActual]

Neighbors would call police in a heartbeat over loud music or barking dog, but if you are asking for help, you are SOL

[@jordnchn7907]

an extension of the bystanders effect/rule etc. noone going to want to risk their own life/lives, just human survival instinct! no ape is gonna run in and save a fellow ape, if they themselves cant defeat or escape from whatever is hurting the other ape.

[@SoulDelSol]

​@@jordnchn7907all they had to do was call the police

[@mandywalkden-brown7250]

Only in America, the rest of the world actually cares about other people.

[@hovnocuc4551]

@@SoulDelSol Go live in a low-income appartment for a while, literally sounds like there's a murder every other day because some people are junkies, or stupid, or just dramatic and love yelling at each other for no reason. You'll quickly grow insensitive to this.

[@nune2429]

Excuses Excuses 📞 call the police! 🤷‍♀️ You never know

[@robertsaul234]

Note to self: remember to scream "help" if I'm being murdered.

[@sbn1919]

Lmao right!

[@SarahNGeti]

It's better than saying, "stop it that hurts" which can be interpreted as rough sex

[@SarahNGeti]

If i needed help i would scream help me! It makes it clear you actually need help.

[@veezopolis]

No yell that you're being murdered and to call the police. Help is a four letter word that a lot of people don't take seriously.

[@EMILYxx6173]

⁠​⁠@@SarahNGeti you might want to consider that 1. She felt that she could still try negotiate with him and de-escalate the situation. 2. She didn't think she was within earshot of anyone who could help 3. She likely feared if she called for help, he might panic and rush to silence her. What's a lot better than just assuming your neighbour might just be having rough sex is to call police to make sure nothing more sinister is at play.

[@onlydubstv]

Caught in 4K and he still goes ''so you say'' what a psychopath

[@funnyanimalshorts643]

Addict. The meth makes mental illness worse. A lot of people are diagnosed with bipolar disorder when it's really meth rage. Meth users are less likely to overdose than die of violence perpetrated on each other.

[@Strade8]

@@funnyanimalshorts643 he got a truck on is head after he was already dignosed with bipolar disorder. I think his problems are not the one of an addict.

[@tinbage]

Nah more like delusional

[@Toga-90]

I wouldn't call it that. Looking at it as if I was sitting there, the cops were trying to get him to confess. They didn't have concrete evidence she was dead or he killed her. So David didn't admit anything and didn't incriminate himself by agreeing to anything they said. It kinda reminds me of the move Law Abiding Citizen. Don't get me wrong, the dudes a piece of sh*t. But he was smart to not admit to anything or fall for what they were saying. Even though the cops were right, what was presented in the interrogation room didn't prove anything.

[@sonjabergsmann6512]

😅😅😅😅

[@kimshiflett3760]

How can any murderer still think using the victims phone will go unnoticed

[@DEBORAH4-ut9sz]

This is an older case. Nowadays, it's highly unlikely that a spouse can get away with murder as the advances in technologies = advances in forensic science to solve cold cases too. At the end of HIStory, CAIN$ root$ don't walk free as SOLOmon knows EXactly what happened to the ABEL brotHER as she survived.

[@heyitsmekasey]

All of these comments about neighbors coming to the rescue of screaming people reminds me of the time I got trapped in my backyard shed one Texas summer and screamed for help for 2 hours. Fearing I would die from the heat, I eventually managed to break a small window and climb out, seriously injuring myself in the process. Later when retelling the story to multiple neighbors, they all said they heard me and they had all been texting each other "do you hear that? Is someone outside yelling for help?", but not one of them came out of their house to investigate.

[@tammyjantzen9004]

Unfrickin' believable. So sorry.

[@Gwyllgi]

I hope you told them that if any of them ever needed help in the future, you'd return in kind

[@Inja101]

Idiots

[@viktorijadesiatnikova1624]

😮😮😮 This is shocking! I'm glad you okay 😢❤

[@Bees123Knees]

Wow. That is not good.

[@BadWallaby]

Who the hell hears "Stop it hurts" and not call the police...HELP is not the only word that applies.

[@cdmp777]

I don’t know we should be asking David the same thing. Or why he would hurt her in the first place.

[@burntsky64]

You've never had neighbors with weird kinks.

[@-Katastrophe]

If not for this being a true crime video there could be one other reason for someone saying that. But since it is!

[@wokeamerica142]

@@cdmp777 nah the neighbor is at fault too for not trying to even help

[@ryanfraser167]

​@@wokeamerica142 there is no duty to help fyi

[@LivinInLuxury]

“I heard the most blood-curdling, agonized screams… but she didn’t say the magic word, ‘help!’”

[@julitt4317]

But she DID take a photo of his "suspicious" truck. Unbelievable, isn't it.

[@riverjbleu]

Absolutely insane and makes me so angry. This woman could’ve been saved.

[@Lucius_Aurelian_]

@@riverjbleuor not depending on how competent the pd is

[@bandit5875]

@@riverjbleuor at least promptly avenged. She didn’t get the justice she needed from bystanders. I just try to take this as a lesson to stay armed, stay fit enough to fight, and stay careful with trust. It’s just a tragedy. I wish she could’ve defended herself or that someone actually came and aided her when she was being attacked.

[@kathleenp9643]

I was in my vacation house in Pennsylvania and I heard a Huge fight and called the cops. Better safe than sorry!!

[@babyface1939]

What a POS. I'd have absolutely no patience questioning him.

[@maryljcanary]

Absolutely. There is a reason in not an interrogator.

[@Space-Glitter]

lol seriously this "i'm protecting her, anyone can be bought" and "you're trying to create a narrative" after they ask about him being at her house that morning I would be doing some serious scoffing and eye rolling like come the fuck on david.

[@desmondsummers]

"We're not framing you, your getting charged!" loved that

[@bojohannesen4352]

Why?

[@DeidarasLilStudent]

@@LysetteZara They just told the guy they weren't doing 1 thing, but the other. No one thinks it's smart, the dude just got told off?

[@desmondsummers]

@@LysetteZara not about it being smart, just them being done with his BS and letting him know he getting charged and this isn't no framing or accusations. Don't overthink it😅

[@ruok3351]

@@bojohannesen4352 you love to defend violent criminals dont ya

[@alexaviafara.888]

@@desmondsummers we get it dear user damn

[@onthecoast3691]

I've been on the opposite end of this. I WAS the one screaming for help. Thank God for my neighbor. He heard my screaming and he heard the gun shot (I wasn't hit)and he broke my front door down to help me. If you hear/see something...say/do something! You could be saving a life! Thanks to all the heros!

[@LaNayHarold-Harding]

🙏🏽💪🏽🙏🏽

[@Penguinman2.0]

if you dont mind my asking, what happened?

[@shaft5]

I used to work at this really nasty hotel in Las Vegas across the street from the Mandalay Bay on the strip. One of the guests calls me and tells me to call 911 because a woman in the next room was getting brutally attacked. I called the police and they came and I told them which room. The police knock on the door, the door opens and the police just burst out laughing. I asked them what was going on and they said “just really loud sex”.

[@Penguinman2.0]

@@shaft5 wow, good on you for calling but that’s hilarious

[@travelingman4983]

You females are on your own👍👍👍💯💯💯Help yall and maybe get sued?, i dont think so🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@789genie]

When I was 15 my neighbor was screaming and her kids were yelling at the man (stepdad) “leave her alone!” I was scared to death. It was just me and my 55 year old mom in the apartment. We didn’t have a phone so my mom walks out and starts going towards the pay phone. I walk with her pleading with her not to get involved. Nothing I said stopped her. She called the police, they came and took care of business. The next day the lady brought my mom some homemade cookies or some kind of dessert. I’m so proud of my mom. She’s my hero. She’s past away 12 years ago but thinking about this makes me tear up till this day. I was a coward but she set a great example for me. I know better now

[@SoulDelSol]

Why did you want to stop your mom from calling for help for the woman and children being hurt?

[@hyung9636]

@@SoulDelSol Do you not use common sense?

[@robertprior94]

​@@SoulDelSol someone's hiding under your bed......

[@mimi7574]

@@SoulDelSolobviously a 15 year old would be scared.

[@789genie]

@@SoulDelSol I was 15 and a coward. It was a very bad neighborhood and I didn’t want retaliation. I’ve learned to step in when I should. I’m 52 now

[@DustinFarronVT]

I used to love in a Duplex, the neighbors used to scream at eachother at all hours of the night, one day im home alone and I hear them yelling at eachother, more intense than any of their arguments in the past, I hear the man yell "sometimes I just wanna kill you!!!" His wife says "not if I kill you first" I called the police immediately

[@DEBORAH4-ut9sz]

The War of tHE ROSEs ...

[@sarah7895]

I heard a officer once recommend if you are being attacked to yell "FIRE" instead of "HELP" because people are more likely to come running to investigate and/or help. Which is really, really sad.

[@Geoffthegayrobotroomate]

George carlin said it best... think of the lowest iq person you know People are 1000x stupider than that

[@emmajayne4894]

That's what women are told if they are sexually assaulted

[@nobody7817]

That's been going around for decades now... I think if you yelled fire, anymore, they wouldn't even come for that...

[@baraness24]

​@@nobody7817A fire has a chance of affecting them.

[@AdamGee8]

Idk if I hear someone scream help im immediately investigated.. unfortunately many people assume someone else will help or call cops and not do it themselves.

[@burgermane1364]

Telling the cops you’re not going to give them information so you can “protect” the woman that you killed is wild

[@Jagdtiger46]

The wildest part is the murder itself... anything thats follows it is just reminiscence of it

[@burgermane1364]

@@Jagdtiger46 I mean obviously lol what’s understood don’t have to be explained

[@canwoop]

No conscience and no brain cells.

[@empresselfiie]

He’s having a psychotic break. He probably actually believes his delusions which makes this so much sadder.

[@klippitykloppity]

Heard whimpering outside in the middle of the night and someone was being attacked out in the street. Yelled out "WTF is going on." and 2 guys took off down the road. A man called out for help. He was on his way home and was jumped and the 2 guys that ran away were trying to SA him. Called emergency services and Police and an ambulance came. I heard whimpering and yelled out 6 words and that was enough to get them to stop. How that neighbour heard screams for a prolonged period of time...and did nothing, will forever baffle and disturb me.

[@BeautifulFang]

Good on you for saying SOMTHING! Most ppl would be scared to even say a peep. Respect.

[@H.P.Blavatsky]

it happened to me once in my apartment complex years ago i heard her all the time being loud screaming music but one night was different around 3am-ish heard 'ow ow ow stop no no no no' and i just couldnt leave her alone in that so i called 911. im only a 5ft tall lady myself and zero muscle all blubber back then otherwise i would have knocked on the door myself. turns out her pimp was beating her, they both went to jail. he was huge super buff guy probably 350lbs he was scary i saw him a few times in the building before. i feel bad she went to jail but maybe i saved her from worse?

[@BeautifulFang]

@@H.P.Blavatsky I would like to think so. At least in jail there are programs to help ppl get their lives back on track :)

[@Ladybird.21]

@@BeautifulFanglollll you clearly don’t have experience with people that have been in jail.😂😳🤦🏻‍♀️ They don’t put people in programs, they don’t exist. They charge these women after being assaulted and make it even HARDER for them to get their lives back on track.

[@kithe304]

@tackychan7626wtf is ur problem??? did this person state a race??? and you know white men commit the most sexual assaults in the us right???

[@sinazom9010]

“Do not use Ava” says a man who murdered her mom “She had me do it” bruh! Who wants to be murdered?? “You do not have a video of me killing her” and the aggression. He kept on saying he was enacting his rights as husband and wife as if he owned her or something as a husband…

[@v_lone_tay7801]

When I was in the 6th grade I could hear my neighbor screaming for help in the house next door. I’ll never forget the fear I had calling 911 as a 12 yr old. But that night I saved someone’s life. Her husband was beating her in front of his kids.

[@Christie-EnergyHealing]

Even you at 12 had more common sense than this grown adult. Smh

[@Imsodepressedcomments]

They were doing something else

[@loni8458]

your mother did an amazing job raising you!!

[@raidensama1511]

Maybe she deserved it

[@kimberlyrager4780]

You are a real hero! Thank God for people like you! Your parents definitely have reason to be proud of you 💗

[@Jesskorn6966]

My sister came close to losing her life one night when she was beaten nearly to death by her ex boyfriend. She told me so many times she thought "someone is coming, someone must have heard me screaming they're comeing" but no one did. Because no one called the police. In the apartment there was broke furniture and blood everywhere which was shocking but what was really shocking was the broken sprinkler and rose bush pulled from the roots on the lawn. I asked her and she said at one point she made it outside and tried to run screaming for help but he caught her and dragged her inside so she grabbed whatever she could hold onto to stop him screaming at the top of her lungs. Then the complex issued an eviction notice because neighbors " heard the commotion and feared for their lives". But not enough to call the police and save my sister apparently. By the grace of God she survived and called me in the morning and we got her out of there and him arrested. But when I tell you walking through that felt like walking into a murder scene, I could see the splatter patterns on the walls and the blood on the objects he hit her with like something out of a movie, I'll never forget that feeling of almost losing my sister. And I will NEVER mind my own business again.

[@satanxkxtten]

I lived with domestic violence for almost four years. The worst case of it, I was literally screaming "someone call the police, someone help me" (we lived in an apartment complex with thin walls). No one did. Please don't mind your own business, the neighbors next to you probably assumed you already called. I'm glad your sister is okay and that you were able to take a valuable lesson away from that terrible situation.

[@danteclark8864]

cool

[@brnoamik]

No offense but what started that whole scenario? Was she poking her nose in again or creating drama. There are two sides to everything. Cheers

[@Q..J..]

I called the police one night on my downstairs neighbors after I heard her say “go ahead and stab me”. She left with the police, but was back 45 minutes later. Some people - you just can’t save.

[@YayforFun09]

@@marthienel2190 I've read a lot of stupid comments on this site but yours definitely takes the cake. If you're ever in a situation where you need help, I hope you aren't surrounded by people like you.

[@christine9146]

The whole interrogation is like trying to have a logical conversation with a 5 or old.

[@TheCoyoteHill]

No, but like, she’s totally doing whistleblower thing, so you can’t find her

[@JamesMitchell-gw1hz]

He has bi polar knob head read about the disability before you say something you know nothing about!!!!

[@アドルフヒトラ]

The investigators got way too emotionally involved they both were scolding David so hard telling him that they already know what happened thinking that would make him talk and meanwhile he just keeps repeating ''she's my wife she is still alive i love her and I'm going to protect her from these deep pockets'' and they just get more and more frustrated it was slightly amusing to watch tbh 😂

[@user56gghtf]

@christine9146 more like a two year old

[@lwilso9152]

Well they did say he had some pretty bad brain damage..

[@billyccall5774]

Best cop ever. "Hey my man you just keep exercising your right to be quiet alright" "that's a smart man keep doing that alright"

[@BennyVibes]

That recording of Ava’s voice message should be played on repeat for the next 38 years in his cell

[@CristhianYi]

Nah, it says I love you

[@elizabethsuavillo6071]

yeah I agree

[@jessicahank25]

Just cut the I love you from it and play and play it on repeat for him

[@kristenbergeron8515]

His brain damaged ass will just keep denying that it's her.

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

@@jessicahank25 so then the recording is just a loop of her saying ALEXA! 😂

[@viiovi5681]

When I was eight or nine years old we were driving home when my father made my mother pull over at the top of the hill to the cul-de-sac where we lived. There he started beating her and she was screaming for her life. I jumped out of the car and I ran to the nearest homes and banged on the doors screaming for help. A man came to his door in a dressing gown, looked at me, and slammed the door in my face. Nobody called the police, nobody came to help the child screaming for help. My mother sustained multiple injuries and bumps to her brain, and if my father hadn't left when he did, she would have died. This memory was so traumatising that it has stuck with me my entire life, and I am now in my early twenties.

[@Standurground10]

My mom jumped out of the car and her chin was split open and my dad hopped out leaving all three of us in the back of this tiny car and she had rolled into the grassy easement of a gas station. People were pumping gas watching my dad snatch my mom by her hair and punching her and they just kept staring and we were crying and screaming for help. And they just kept pumping gas and turned away. Im so sad to see all of these other comments of moments like ours. They dont pop up often but sometimes it just plays like a video in my head.

[@mariannejensen9107]

Im so sorry for you 😮😢

[@adrianacalderon6349]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that experience and shame on those who didn't help

[@rosannaperez9239]

I’m so sorry for you all, who went through that! Stay strong!

[@Stitching_Crap]

That sounds incredibly traumatizing. How cruel of your father to do that in front of you.

[@millicentbynum3633]

I lost it when he said that she’s into essential oils. Sir. . . . What?!?! 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@nataliabusko1432]

Typical narcissist, creating nonsense out of thin air to defend their delusions

[@arolf2524]

What about the 22 other guys? If they hadn't charged him, he would still be coming up with his fantasies.

[@SkyShupe]

Makes me sick! I wish we could prevent all this evil. But sadly we cannot without taking away peoples freedoms to choose.

[@rodicapepescu4599]

Me too 🙄 I'm like whaaat !?

[@LaNayHarold-Harding]

🥴

[@AdelGarvin]

Everytime he said she is still alive knowing he killed her is just pure evil

[@danpaul4975]

"ummmmm last I heard....." Instead of "Oh my god she's missing???" is the obvious first red flag!!

[@marygoff3332]

Yep. And the very first red flag Is him not asking what's going on immediately when they first pull him over...

[@RossIsFine]

I mean they were getting divorced. They weren't in love lol

[@MrElrondmcbong]

But he says hes is still in love witg her to the officer who pulled him over?​@@RossIsFine

[@AT_BASE]

Yeah I feel like binging these has given me a 6th sense about this stuff lol

[@rebeccarebeccaa2515]

​@@RossIsFineshe was divorcing him. He was there because he thought the apocalypse was about to happen and he wanted her to go with him.

[@kylekinkade9211]

I like neighbors that mind their own business, but at the same time, if you hear blood curdling screams from a man, woman, or child, you best be on the phone with 911.

[@NerdyPengin]

I'm that type of neighbor, but I'm also grabbing a defense weapon and investigating so I can relay the details to emergency as I learn them. You best believe all detail is being relayed.

[@roguespartan2854]

I'm putting money that they're the same neighbord who'd call the cops on their neighbors over the smallest noise

[@Think-dont-believe]

@@roguespartan2854 i called non emergency and over talked like crazy cause it's not my style but L couple lived nxt door n I heard "CALL the Cops" like 3x but I Cldnt tell if it was to others Call the Cops or yelling at person fighting with "do it call the cops" "Go ahead call the cops" but I only heard call the cops decided I cld deal w being the person who Called n nothing going on VS I was the person who didn't call n something did happen.

[@trishaaloo5281]

It’s common in the US, less common in some other countries.. speaking from experience

[@TheBriar_123]

Minding your own business is like… not commenting on the yard or how the kids behave like lunatics when they play outside. Not ignoring someone’s screams. That’s negligent.

[@amabelireyes]

people heard my aunt’s last screams before she died, but didn’t say a thing until the funeral. in a few days it’ll be the 10th anniversary of her departure, and they haven’t found the murderers yet. if you hear anything unusual, please call 911. you never know when someone truly needs it.

[@susiew2521]

I'm really sorry that happened to her and that you have to live with it. Hope you can focus on happy memories of her at this anniversary. ❤

[@amabelireyes]

@@susiew2521 thank you ❤️ i will!

[@susiew2521]

@@amabelireyes Much love to you and your family. X

[@freethegreat]

Blessed be you healing ❤

[@amabelireyes]

@@freethegreat thank you so much 🙏

[@SizzelRizzel]

That female cop was more worried about looking tuff than doing her job

[@DEBORAH4-ut9sz]

Since he murdered a woman, the female cop was trying to provoke him to see how he would react.

[@bryce_5326]

@@DEBORAH4-ut9szthat arrest was prior to the homicide investigation

[@Studydog899]

Facts that was crazy. No one asked about your height lady lmao

[@watchmejumpstart24]

I will never understand neighbours who hear things like this and don't call the police? What goes through these people's minds?

[@Ann-sj4pt]

Probably tumbleweed

[@Donny_999]

myb

[@liamhunter4154]

they assume someone else will call and they don’t want to involve themselves.

[@bariyou]

Speaking as someone who grew up in a trailer park: you get used to the fights. Every other night there's screaming from some other family on the block. You just count yourself lucky that it's not your home having the fight this time. Even if you do call you're more likely to get told to stop, and mind your own business. Depending on the area the police just do not care to follow through with domestic disturbances.

[@PolumbiusTheThird]

not everyone cares about other people the way you do.

[@hupkat]

The fact that the neighbor didn’t call police is absolutely unreal. *Edit* I absolutely understand the argument from the other side about her not calling and I think it’s an interesting conversation. With that said, this seemed to be much more noise and prolonged screams than a simple question of wether it was some kids or not. I think in any case, even if doubt creeps in, you always fall on the side of being cautious and calling it in. Embarrassment about calling in something that turned out to be business as usual is better than someone possibly dead or injured.

[@Dandientart]

By stander effect is a scary and real thing unfortunately

[@Ann-sj4pt]

A lot of people are too self absorbed to help anyone sadly.

[@joelewis1776]

@@Dandientartadd onto it the added stigma recently of interacting with or calling police. Not saying it was a factor here but a lot of people don’t want to get cops involved unless they absolutely need to. It’s a shitty situation because sometimes the police do indeed worsen it so what can you do. I agree she should have called here though

[@brosephbroman7564]

Some women scream like that seeing a mouse/rat or spider. I don't blame her.

[@denisehagwood4542]

​@@Dandientart it's been largely debunked

[@4cprocess]

So she took pictures of a pickup truck, but didn’t call the damn police?! wtf

[@bashkillszombies]

You can thank the "karen" meme for this. Crime reporting has flat lined by white women to the point they will have the smoking gun but be too scared to say anything.

[@DoNtCaReBrO_305]

Some neighbors just enjoy being nosy. But then they wanna be post-war heroes.

[@ezrawright4385]

There are so many reasons to refrain from calling the police. Many people won't call unless they think it's absolutely necessary.

[@jimz1024]

I mean gathering evidence of potential crimes before contacting police sounds quite normal, I think you're sensationalising the wrong parts

[@4cprocess]

@@jimz1024 I reckon it depends if the photos were taken before or after she was killed. If after, I can understand. If before, that just seems super odd to me.

[@autumn8827]

“you thought cause i was 5’2”” girl please no one thought that

[@AmbuBadger]

Yeah, I can imagine her coworkers were thinking, "please, just shut up, I beg of you!"

[@roaddog1m]

Exactly. ​@@AmbuBadger

[@Nursilmaz]

She sounds so annoying

[@mr.e3765]

Lmao her having her moment while the other cops are trying to solve a missing persons case

[@jaredgilmore5792]

Women shouldn’t be police officers, too irrational, not physically capable, too much of a chip on their shoulder because they know they are already underachievers by virtue of them being women in a physical profession historically dominated by men (because they are better suited for the job) so they make up for that by over reacting and over exerting their power disproportionately. Women also naturally have a higher level of cortisol in the body because they are gifted the magic of the being the caretaker of the species and the choosing of genes that will be passed on which is an incredibly valuable thing. That, and them being naturally smaller and weaker on average, means they have a much higher level of the stress hormone cortisol which is BAD NEWS in high stress situations. We all love and adore women and femininity as men, we value them as partners and emotionally intelligent caretakers and home makers. They quite literally are integral to the human species. That said we can’t pretend we are the same, it used to be a man’s job, it should be a man’s job still, it’s safer that way for everyone involved. Men don’t have to be over protective of their female police partners, the female police officers won’t fuck things up and be physically, and emotionally incompetent on the job as they are disproportionately known to do, and the job of beat cop will get done a lot better. They can be officers that are detectives or behind the desk, but shouldn’t be in the field arresting reckless and dangerous individuals in high stress scenarios.

[@redfin382]

This dude really thought he was just gonna say "she's hiding because she is involved in a whistle blower case." And everyone would just drop it and let him go.

And the annoying insistence that she's still alive despite everything showing she clearly isn't.

[@ResidentWeevil2077]

Peak delusion - the same delusional behaviour that's driving society towards its own self-assured destruction.

[@TheRadFactor]

Usually the put the story together in a haste after they commit the crime

[@southgamez]

he was prolly trying to go for an insanity plea so his sentence wouldn't be so harsh

[@Wolfgang_AmaDEEZ_NUTZart]

Imagine if she really was hiding and these were just deepfakes from the villains to get rid of the dude. :D No im not being serious.

[@mariamoore2506]

You’re being arrested for homicide: For who?………is there more than one person he’s killed?!?!

[@Lalala66-666]

I wouldn't doubt there's more.

[@NostalgiaHDOS]

Hindsight is 20/20

[@rev.kirstinbuchanan6340]

23.33 That female cop needs to get off her high horse. Im not saying that this guy didn't deserve anything thrown at him, but her acting all big and bad? Grow up and act like you actually deserve to wear that uniform.

[@peachycream]

Her height must bother her. Maybe people over look her and she over acts. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@JFizzleNZ]

Yes! She annoyed the hell out of me.... " I had to bodyslam your car...." Sure.

[@ChoosenGemini]

Exactly!! This is the comment I was looking for because I knew I wasn't the only one who felt like this!!😂😂💯💯

[@incognitocrybaby]

She annoyed tf outta me! You can tell she's one of those cops that would definitely abuse her power if someone didn't know their rights

[@cindyjensen3037]

I felt the same way, her loud voice was like nails on a chalkboard to me

[@overwhelminglyaverage]

This man really said, "She checked into a hospital" and then said "She doesn't trust hospitals." Bruh. Did he hear anything of what he said???

[@Casper-t3k]

Bruh said she's holistic she likes essential oils ....

[@tonjiamurphy6042]

His mom says, He' s never hurt anybody or beat anybody. No ma'am, Your son just killed somebody!!

[@joshuawayneyork]

"She's seeing 22 guys" 🤣😂🤣! Dudes so manic and out of his mind! I'm surprised he was able to make it all the way to New Mexico like that.

[@kimmyfreak200]

he is soooooooooo annoying!!!!!!! lol

[@bambinaforever1402]

The only thing i m wondering WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS DOG

[@tls2626]

That's methamphetamine

[@joshuawayneyork]

@@bambinaforever1402 I saw on another crime show somewhere that one of the arresting officers adopted him if I remember correctly.

[@user56gghtf]

He was telling on himself. They like to project what they do on to other people

[@ddskiexclusivebets]

Gretchen: ahhhhhhhhh stop it hurts Neighbor: all you gotta say is help and I’ll press 911

[@StacieTheSweetheart]

I once heard an upstairs neighbor screaming…she never said help but her screams did…I called the police…her bf was literally beating her…everybody around us heard her screaming but I was the only one who called & even though she never left him, I always called the police for her until I moved away. She looked so sad that day she seen the uhaul & I pray she’s OK now. Moral of the story: SPEAK UP & STOP MINDING YOUR BUSINESS TO THE WRONG THINGS.

[@staceyrodriguez8200]

You are very grateful for someone sticking up for you when you aren't yet able to stick up for yourself. However, it's very possible you leaving helped her learn to advocate for herself.

[@ars6187]

@@staceyrodriguez8200Yes. You’re very right!

[@azpersonal]

Thank you!

[@cashola2100]

She went to bond him out... they moved away saying you were to nosey

[@katherinereign1058]

Me and my bf had a pretty heated argument, we didn't even touch each other or threaten anything, but later we got a visit from 2 VERY large and strong looking officers. We resolved it quickly and they were on their way out. Me and my bf are in a healthy relationship just had a fight that was a little too loud. Looking back I'm really glad my neighbors called to check on us even if nothing was wrong. Wish these victims had the same kind neighbors I had to even think of calling. Bless that beautiful woman, I wish her peace after this. edit: I swear one of them was 7ft he was HUGE and built like a Greek god

[@pauka123]

The more I watch these, the less I can stand the lies from the perpetrators. Sometimes I even hit fast forward - which makes me feel even greater respect for the detectives who keep their cool and play along during interrogations.

[@Deletirium]

The awkward lies that everybody knows aren't true are so cringe.

[@person35790]

Neither of the detectives here kept their cool though.

[@lazerbrownies865]

@@person35790 yeah they did

[@junemarshall-kingsley566]

@@Deletirium He kept saying, "So you say," over and over again. What a wormlike coward. I'm sorry she let that creep into her and her daughter's life, thinking she could save him from his mental illness.

[@Ty-1452]

These detectives are definitely patient. But Alex (on PP Southeast Texas) interviewing child predators and getting them to incriminate themselves. His patience and skills are unmatched.

[@melissalutz9003]

As a neighbour I will absolutely NOT “mind my own business” I’ve run towards a burning yard with an extinguisher, checked on banging walls etc for my neighbours. I’ll do it again in a heartbeat. When I lost my own house to a fire the nice ppl down the lane answered their door for us at 3am and helped us through it

[@Malik1Only]

a fire is a little different from a person using weapons to k1ll people. if you dont have weapons to protect yourself your just going to rush into the scene and possibly become another victim

[@lorisusanelroy5225]

Call the police- do the minimum​@@Malik1Only

[@kizzy_11d12]

@@Malik1Onlyokay and is that an excuse to not call the police when you hear someone screaming???

[@Eagle-gl7bq]

@@Malik1OnlyI agree with you that not to run into some dangerous situation but we can still call police for the poor victims.

[@virginiaordaya]

I wish more neighbors were like you. 💙💚 This is my reminder to make an effort to be that neighbor I would want.

[@Skeptic2006]

Poor judgement by the neighbor for just minding her own business but kudos to her coming forth with the info later on. She didn't kill her, David did.

[@m_christine1070]

They lived in a beautiful brand new , quiet upscale, development called Abacoa in Jupiter. It's mind boggling how it wasn't called in by more than one neighbour. Unless it was still as I remember it and the neighborhood still had a lot of unoccupied homes that hadn't sold yet.

[@liszt85]

I once heard screaming and called the police. They found a woman being battered by her husband. The cops came up to my apartment after the incident, thanked me for calling because no one else had, and gave me a card with the cop's information so that I could call him directly if I ever needed anything. This was in Ohio. Being a Psychology lecturer at the time, I was teaching students about the bystander effect (regardless of the issues with the original research, it seemed to play out in this scenario), so I suspected that no one else would call and was proved right.

[@mindymorgan8479]

Exactly. They should not be able to come to your house. Like they have your number. Call you. Don't let the woman abuser or thief whatever it may be, be obvious YOU called. I'm sick of that. Sick of it. Come on.

[@doguecreek]

She uncovered tax fraud so she contacted OSHA? This guy was just throwing out names of agencies he'd heard of in the past.

[@jmonique8644]

🤦🏾‍♀️🤣

[@markyg1970]

Lmao just realized how ridiculous his statement was

[@doguecreek]

@@markyg1970 Imagine "she uncovered a North Korean spy ring, so she contacted the EPA." 😄

[@Dan-xx5jq]

😅😅😅 She was supposing him. What?? Who does that? He does not want to work.

[@dawnanngallagher8495]

David the compulsive liar should have realized that the jig was up because he said Gretchen was following him until El Paso, Texas but her car was in the hospital parking lot. Not to mention the CDC Center for treating Covid. Then he stated Gretchen was in his car. I would have mentioned DEATH PENALTY!!!

[@VaeBabe]

The way he talks is how I write my essays when I’m trying to add 200 more words

[@aub.ree2]

LMAOOO

[@yasmin5552]

😂😂😂

[@maxie1896]

It's not : it is not Doesn't: does not Unbeknownst to me: i did not fathom the knowledge that was not known to me (word count: 201) 😂

[@Wolta]

The manner in which he speaks is equal to how I formulate and write my written assignments when I am taking a shot at adding 200 more words. That was my attempt :p

[@powerdj4590]

But what I tell you next about the way he talks is truly shocking...

[@JYJnKumi]

I heard a male neighbor screaming and cussing at his gf/wife, followed by banging, through their apartment door. I called the cops. They came, but because no one would answer the door, they left. Haven't heard any banging or screaming since, but the rest of my neighbors are on high alert. Ain't no one dying on us!

[@Miss.831]

Neighbor: Let me take pictures of this black truck that I think is suspicious. Same Neighbor: I heard a lady being murdered but she didn’t say help so I didn’t call the cops.

[@jimmyjimjim4879]

😅😅😅

[@nayon9379]

🫚THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the last age in which God saves man from the imminent destruction of this old world" ("The root of man's opposition to God is his evil caused by Satan. Because Satan has corrupted him, man's conscience is numb, he is immoral, his thoughts are corrupted, and he has a backward mind. After Satan corrupted people, their former sanity, former conscience, and character were dulled too much and destroyed by Satan. Man lost his sense, his disposition became like that of a wild animal and his rebellion against God became more frequent and more intense. What things are contained in Satan's nature? For example, Why do you become selfish?" Why are you so happy to accept those unreasonable things? Why do you love those evils so much? What is the root of your love for these things? Where do they come from? What Satan's poison is can best be expressed with words. For example, if you ask the wrongdoer: 'Why do you do that? They will answer: 'Every man for himself and the devil took the last.' This one phrase reveals the root of the problem: Satan's logic has become people's lives, even what they do for themselves. This poison becomes the life and foundation of man, it exists in his body; humanity that was made evil continued to be dominated by it for thousands of years. And what Satan does is for himself. He wants to surpass God, be free and have God's power, and possess all of His creations, then, man's nature is Satan's nature.) Almighty God said "The KEY of man's OPPOSITION AGAINST GOD is his EVIL CAUSED by SATAN. ​​Because SATAN has CORRUPTED him, man's CONSCIENCE is NUMBLE, he is IMMORAL, his ATTITUDES are BAD, and he has a BACKWARD thinking. Before Satan brought him down, he obeyed God and obeyed His words. He is NATURALLY SANE and has a CLEAR CONSCIENCE, and his PERSONALITY is NORMAL. 🛑 After SATAN CORRUPTED people, his former SENSE, former CONSCIENCE, and HUMANITY were too DULL and DESTROYED by SATAN. 😪 So, he LOST his OBEDIENCE and LOVE for GOD. MAN LOST his SENSE, his DISPOSITION became LIKE a WILD ANIMAL and his REBELLION against God became MORE FREQUENT and SEVERE. 😪 But people still don't know or even recognize it, and just fight and rebel blindly." "At the TIME, when the WORD of GOD has NOT been ALIVE to MAN, SATAN'S NATURE HOLDS and DOMINATES people. What--what THINGS are INSIDE SATAN'S NATURE? For example, WHY are you being SELFISH?" WHY do you need to PROTECT your STATUS in LIFE? WHY do you get so EMOTIONAL? WHY are you SO HAPPY to ACCEPT those illogical things? WHY do you love those EVIL things? WHAT is the ROOT of your LOVE for these THINGS? WHERE do they COME FROM? By now you all understand that this is because of the content of SATAN'S POISON. 😪☀️ WHAT SATAN'S POISON is CAN be EXPRESSED with WORDS. For example, if you ASK the DOER: 'WHY are you DOING that?' They will answer: 'Every MAN for HIMSELF and the DEVIL TOOK the LAST.' This one phrase reveals the ROOT of the PROBLEM: SATAN'S LOGIC has become the LIFE of PEOPLE, no matter what they DO just for THEMSELVES. 😪😪 Everyone THINKS that 'Every man thinks only of himself and not of the welfare of others,' is the life and the philosophy of man, and it also represents the nature of man. 😪 'EVERY MAN for HIMSELF and the DEMON TOOK THE LAST.' This STATEMENT by SATAN is DEFINITELY POISON and when a MAN receives it, his entire personality is definitely affected. SATAN'S NATURE is EXPOSED in this REVELATION; this is his whole PERSON. This POISON becomes the LIFE and FOUNDATION of MAN, it EXISTS in his BODY; humanity MADE EVIL has CONTINUOUSLY been dominated by it for THOUSANDS--THOUSANDS of YEARS. 😪 And EVERYTHING SATAN DOES is for HIMSELF. He wants to OVERCOME GOD, be FREE and HAVE GOD'S POWER, and HAVE ALL of His CREATIONS, therefore, MAN'S NATURE is SATAN'S NATURE." 😪🙏 From "The Word Appears in the Flesh" Fulfillment of (John 1:1) and (Ezekiel 2:9-10), (Revelation 19:9,13) 📥Calling and leading everyone to His lowered Kingdom or Church because it is still standing on earth in the holy place in the air/ youtube "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD 💐 this is the fulfillment of what He said to Peter 2,000 years ago, recorded in (Matthew 16:18'19). This is the the only Church of each one of our spirit that we must listen to or eat and drink like how we eat, dress and sleep every day so that He can guide us and change us by rejecting the evil attached by Satan so as to be perfect, having attained eternal life that will enter the coming replacement of the New Heaven and New Earth. 📩 Note📩 Almighty God said, Life in the Kingdom is the life of people and God Himself. Humanity depends on My care and precaution, and all are engaged in fighting the great red dragon to the death. In order to win this last battle, and to end the great red dragon, all people must offer Me their entire being, for My Kingdom. When I say "KINGDOM", I mean it is the life lived under the protection of divinity, where all humanity I constantly guide, I teach directly, so that the life of all humanity, although in world is as if it were in heaven, the true spirit of life in the third heaven . 🙏

[@jordansme1234567]

That woman should be charged imo lol shes an accomplice when she didnt report it

[@teletubbiemidget369]

@@jordansme1234567 big lack of logic here, how would you like every neighbour to be an accomplice of a murder because they might have heard someone yelling? And if someone is attacked in public should every single person there call the police at the same time as to not become accomplices?

[@La.Summer]

I thought it was two different neighbors. If it was the same neighbor, that lady is messed up in the head.😢

[@beforedeth2104]

U hear a women screaming it hurts stop no and didn’t call cops….

[@juliusfishman7222]

Well it could be a movie

[@JimboSlice-t5i]

​@@juliusfishman7222That's true, we do live in a matrix.

[@destineeryan6773]

​@@juliusfishman7222 A movie blasting that loudly at 6am? That wouldn't be my assumption as a bystander. Now if that happened at 6pm, a movie might be plausible. But not 6am, imo. And if it was a movie at 6am and I called the cops, I'd be glad to find out it was just someone who fell asleep with their TV on too loud than the alternative, but I wouldn't feel right assuming it was a movie that early.

[@cruisinguy6024]

She s Gould be charged and jailed for her outrageous stupidity

[@LindaHamilton-yu3qz]

@@destineeryan6773it happens or a bunch of unruly kids screaming

[@marissa6425]

As someone who recently divorced someone eerily similar to this guy, the way his mother acted did not shock me at all. “He wouldn’t hurt a fly…” and the whole idea of sympathizing with the wife but not stopping him from ruining her life and being upfront about his mental state, and not getting him clinical help amazes me. There are warning signs, and I’m glad Gretchen saw and started the process of divorce, just like I did. I’m sad that she met the fate she did and her daughter had to go through that.

[@MKUltra42]

I’m glad that you were able to get away. ❤️

[@karenneill9109]

Keep remembering to keep those boundaries clear- it’s easy for them to creep over time. Good for you!

[@BubbleNova1991]

Glad you're able to get out. Stay safe and don't give that snake an inch

[@kimielle]

Life has conditioned me to look EXTRA hard at people when someone says 'they wouldn't hurt a fly'. In my experience every person described that way has been extremely dangerous in some way

[@outlawJosieFox]

Marry in haste, repent at leisure 😢

[@Kat-bd6iv]

Thanks

[@mnemonichotpocket]

I love it when a criminals defense is "Nuh uh"

[@robotrobot4430]

Come on, bro.

[@mnemonichotpocket]

Come on what?

[@SoulDelSol]

​@@mnemonichotpocketthat was another one of the criminals defenses

[@mnemonichotpocket]

@@SoulDelSol Gotcha

[@BlueBand3]

Or 'She's still alive' 😂😂😂

[@janina8559]

My upstairs neighbors were arguing and then I heard glass break and then quiet. I called the police for a welfare check. Everyone was fine and no injuries. The wife did throw a glass in frustration at a wall but that ended the situation and both just went to separate rooms. They weren’t mad I called and apologized. I explained that the silence made me think someone got hurt and they said we knew we were getting stupid so we calmed down. My point is you never know so it’s better to be safe than sorry.

[@thelegendaryfoxfire693]

Huh, that's funny they had the maturity to know going into separate rooms was the adult thing to do at that point in the argument. But only after a glassware cup was thrown at the wall. Lmao Not being rude or anything, I just found that funny is all.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Except now the guy is tainted as an abuser because the cops turned up after an argument.

[@Cheepchipsable]

@@thelegendaryfoxfire693 Yes, women seem to throw things.

[@thelegendaryfoxfire693]

@@Cheepchipsable You literally have no idea about what happened after the police showed up. Keep your misogyny to yourself lmao

[@bkpk4hisapplesauce]

​​@@Cheepchipsable... how?? bruh cops can just show up if neibors call about anything and the woman admitted to police that she threw the glass. you sound very sad I hope you get over it

[@IrishAlexandria]

If you hear a person screaming and begging someone to stop hurting them, people, ffs jump in and if you can’t, call the police.

[@NickBosshard]

Please don't just jump in, there's no need for a second victim. Only go in if you can 100% verify that there is no danger to you, but always call the police. Same goes for accidents, protect yourself before trying to help. A colleague of my dad once lost a friend because he wanted to help after a car crash, the person involved in the accident survived with minor injuries.

[@bort6414]

​@@NickBosshardFor women, understandable. For men, you are a coward if you do not act immediately.

[@redfin382]

I agree although if it's a common occurrence then you would be less likely. I lived with a. Neighbor that would have loud parties and people yelling and screaming until 4 in the morning....if I would have heard noise from their house I would have ignored it.

[@mayajasinski5972]

This guy is insane. A terrible father. How the hell can he flat out deny everything when there is evidence already against him? I just don't get it. His behavior is disgusting. What really saddens me was when he said it wasn't his daughter on the video. I got so pissed at him.

[@Casx96x13]

About a year ago I could hear screaming and a woman being slapped HARD like i was easily 100ft away and could hear the slaps and the screams. I did not hesitate to call the police. When I saw her running I told her she could wait in my apartment while she waited for the police. She broke down in tears and asked if she could hug me. I gave her a very long hug and helped her clean the blood off her face. It shocked me no neighbors were outside or concerned about what was happening. I hope the neighbor lives with guilt for the rest of her life. It doesn’t matter if she didn’t hear the words “help me”. To be like “eh she’s probably fine” after hearing minutes of blood curdling screaming is pure fucking evil

[@ADetailedHouse]

Omg!! That is awful!! Maybe other neighbors called too, but chose to wait in their apts. Some ppl say "mind your own business", but I think a community is your business.

[@jonslg240]

"You're trying to fit a square hole into a round peg." You know who the genius was that said that quote? None other than David in this video 😮 That poor girl 😢

[@jonslg240]

Btw who's the one female neighbor you're specifying in your post? What did she do exactly? Out of all your neighbors, you're just mentioning her.. so what did she do? ..or what did she not do?

[@brucknerian9664]

It's the kind of world we're living in now--divorced from reality, and tuned into social media; some people see and hear reality but it fails to strike a cord in them.

[@CarolFremel-my4hs]

I heard screaming from a neighbour - yelled out ‘I’ve called the police’ everything went quiet - when the police arrived she denied he’d hit her - I saw her in town next day with two black eyes(no shame) - she married him a month later

[@cjallen233]

This guy is insufferable.

[@Deletirium]

Agreed, but the patrol cops midway are thru too. What is it with female officers yelling and screaming at suspects, trying to start a fight.

[@IamCordelia-qn2dj]

This guy makes you want to pull out some pliers.

[@tgj42495]

@@Deletiriumman she was awful. “Body slam herself into his car” “thought cause I was 5’2 blah blah blah” she was the worst

[@scott3795]

@@tgj42495She seems more interested in trying to brag about some level of dominance/control than in doing her job - I fully appreciate it’s important for officers to have control over the situation & make that clear to the suspect, but he’s already on the floor, cuffed and surrounded by male officers by the time she starts yapping And from the body cam footage, it looked an awful lot more like the guy just decided to walk back from the car and not like the action hero she made herself out to be, single handedly dragging him to the ground with her almighty power 😂

[@danarzechula3769]

Brain damaged

[@Jabberwocky869]

When I was a kid, me and my mom heard our (female) neighbor scream hysterically in the stair well of our apartment building. My mom run out of our apartment and saw another (male) neighbor attack the woman, he had her cornered and was stabbing her with a kitchen knife in the chest. So my mom run up to him and tried to pull his arm holding the knife away, but due to weight difference she just ended up kind of hanging from his arm. It gave the woman a few seconds to run away and quite possibly saved her life. But some people will hear someone screaming for help and they won't even call the police.

[@nickleontis9350]

You have to call "fire".

[@Fritznal]

​@@nickleontis9350 bro what 😐

[@AsYouLikeIt_Zendi21]

@@FritznalI think he was trying to say if you call out fire, people are more likely to come out to investigate out of concern for themselves. When you cry for help many people choose not to get involved because many domestic cases women stay in the relationship even though they’re being battered.

[@sicsempertyrannishonk7197]

Going to guess not white people.

[@Jabberwocky869]

@@AsYouLikeIt_Zendi21 In this particular case the woman and the man were not in an intimate relationship. They were neighbors from different apartments and got into a lot of fights for a lot of petty reasons. The guy apparently had some mental health/anger management issues (and was an insufferable neighbor because of it). Karma got him though: he had his leg amputated in prison after a fight with other inmates. After his release he got married to a woman, who ended up murdering him in a domestic...a wild story altogether. On the other note, if I got viciously attacked suddenly and without warning, I don't know whether I would have enough mental presence to think about screaming "fire". People unused to violence react on instinct, not rational thought.

[@kaykay0581]

I’ve been watching true crime for 20 years. Podcasts, KZbinrs, hell even Forensic Files. This is the BEST. Non biased straight facts. Video evidence. No fluff. Just justice! We love it over here!

[@DarthFurie]

This channel covers so many cases I've never heard of, thanks for posting all these stories. May Gretchen rest in peace and may her killer never walk free again

[@Mrfailstandstil]

100%

[@colleenross8486]

Amen!

[@kelkelb9240]

I’ve never heard of this and I live down the street

[@bjbrown]

I have seen this on at least three other true crime channels.

[@DarthFurie]

​@@bjbrownnice, do you want a cookie as well?

[@manilkasheran2934]

Ava saying "Please do the right thing and tell me where my mom is. Please. I love you" was truly heartbreaking!

[@ogadlogadl490]

Our long time next door neighbor saw my grandfathers 3 teacup poodles left out in the snow for 3 days. He never thought to call for a welfare check,he was laying incapacitated on the bathroom floor. If you see something SAY something.

[@linuxguy1199]

test

[@irasaposnik6511]

@@linuxguy1199ticle

[@beetleblooming]

Elderly people should have an Alexa. Just like Gretchen did, if they can’t call for help, they can yell to Alexa to call for help to call 9-1-1

[@TikkiNikki]

​@@linuxguy1199failed

[@VForceWave]

When I was a young kid, I saw my neighbor laying in their yard not moving. I was only eleven or twelve, so I was afraid to go out there and check on him. So I called 911. The cops arrived for a wellness check and he got out and laughed, I think he was just stretching or relaxing. For a long time I've felt bad about it and cringed at myself for not checking on him first, but now I'm glad that I at least did something just in case.

[@kaykay0581]

Yoooo that female cop is mad AF! You definitely tried the wrong 5’2 person. Baby, we don’t play!

[@beanybabyrabie]

My sister and I heard a woman screaming loudly one night when we were sitting outside. It was scary…. Know what we did? Immediately called 911

[@alfredorock-flores8480]

And you know what else? No one asked you

[@doknaenae]

⁠@@alfredorock-flores8480and you know what else? it’s a public comment section where people don’t need your permission so sit your self-centered ass down

[@theastuteangler]

@@alfredorock-flores8480 fix your life

[@ankieb3980]

@@alfredorock-flores8480no one asked you

[@asdfassfs]

And know one asked you to reply and now we find ourselves in paradox@@alfredorock-flores8480

[@psychedelicpython]

I live in a huge apartment complex. A few months ago, at around 3:45 a.m., I heard someone yelling several times, "Help me." At first, I thought my husband had his computer too loud but realized he had the volume turned down. I realized it was a neighbor who lived 1/8 of a block away from our apartment building in the same complex. She was yelling for help for about 5 minutes before I ran over to help her. Not one of the many neighbors who could hear her in the middle of the night called for help. That is messed up. Thank goodness she ended up being okay.

[@erinr6026]

Sadly as a woman we do have to be cautious of situations because they will use things like this to kidnap and traffic women when they go to help. Best to call the cops and let them handle it

[@potatopirate5557]

​@@erinr6026 Hi! Some info on trafficking that might help- You're right in that someone could be messing around or setting a trap but just FYI, trafficking almost never works like that. It's a rumor that's been passed around so much people think it's real and not blaming you one bit for that but just giving you the info for your safety. Please feel free to do your own research, it's a well studied topic. But I worked with law enforcement who worked in s*x trafficking. It's usually a loved one or trusted associate that tricks you into thinking you have an escape or opportunity and end up being trapped with abuse and drugs, sometimes confinement but the mind is enough of a cage when done right. They target people who are already on the end of their thread. People who are desperate and vulnerable. Teens or young adults whose families/spouses are neglectful or abusive, they may be homeless or sometimes addicts or even just girls or young men looking for love and support and finding a "Boyfriend" online or at a bar but coming from such a toxic environment that they don't know how to identify the red flags in the person's behavior... things like that. It's the people you know who pose the greatest risk to you statistically, whether you're talking assault, grape, murder or trafficking, strangers are the minority of offenders. Not to say distrust everyone in your life and keep them at a distance, but do keep yourself safely positioned, so many of the traditional thoughts on relationships can trap you in abuse if you don't learn to see the signs. Highly recommend studying the basics of psychological dysfunction, like personality disorders, cycles of abuse, attachment types, etc, etc.. Life changing information that helps you so much in so many ways.

[@potatopirate5557]

​@@erinr6026 Hi! Some info on trafficking that might help- You're right in that someone could be messing around or setting a trap but just FYI, trafficking almost never works like that. It's a rumor that's been passed around so much people think it's real and not blaming you one bit for that but just giving you the info for your safety. Please feel free to do your own research, it's a well studied topic. But I worked with law enforcement who worked in s*x trafficking. It's usually a loved one or trusted associate that tricks you into thinking you have an escape or opportunity and end up being trapped with abuse and drugs, sometimes confinement but the mind is enough of a cage when done right. They target people who are already on the end of their thread. People who are desperate and vulnerable. Teens or young adults whose families/spouses are neglectful or abusive, they may be homeless or sometimes addicts or even just girls or young men looking for love and support and finding a "Boyfriend" online or at a bar but coming from such a toxic environment that they don't know how to identify the red flags in the person's behavior... things like that. It's the people you know who pose the greatest risk to you statistically, whether you're talking assault, grape, murder or trafficking, strangers are the minority of offenders. Not to say distrust everyone in your life and keep them at a distance, but do keep yourself safely positioned, so many of the traditional thoughts on relationships can trap you in abuse if you don't learn to see the signs. Highly recommend studying the basics of psychological dysfunction, like personality disorders, cycles of abuse, attachment types, etc. Life changing information that helps you so much I so many ways.

[@potatopirate5557]

​​​​@@erinr6026 Hi! Some info on trafficking that might help- You're right in that someone could be messing around or setting a trap but just FYI, trafficking almost never works like that. It's a rumor that's been passed around so much people think it's real and not blaming you one bit for that but just giving you the info for your safety. Please feel free to do your own research, it's a well studied topic. But I worked with law enforcement who worked in s*x trafficking. It's usually a loved one or trusted associate that tricks you into thinking you have an escape or opportunity and end up being trapped with abuse and drugs, sometimes confinement but the mind is enough of a cage when done right. They target people who are already on the end of their thread. People who are desperate and vulnerable. Teens or young adults whose families/spouses are neglectful or abusive, they may be homeless or sometimes addicts or even just girls or young men looking for love and support and finding a "Boyfriend" online or at a bar but coming from such a toxic environment that they don't know how to identify the red flags in the person's behavior... things like that. It's the people you know who pose the greatest risk to you statistically, whether you're talking assault, grape, murder or trafficking, strangers are the minority of offenders. Not to say distrust everyone in your life and keep them at a distance, but do keep yourself safely positioned, so many of the traditional thoughts on relationships can trap you in abuse if you don't learn to see the signs. Highly recommend studying the basics of psychological dysfunction, like personality disorders, cycles of abuse, attachment types, etc. Life changing information that helps you so much I so many ways. If they target random adults in populated areas, they are just bringing the cops and media down on them. It's a huge risk and there's no need. There's plenty of young people from poor and dysfunctional households who are perfect targets, easy to trick into volunteering, family can't/ won't do much, cops will treat it like a runaway, plus drugs are usually already part of the equation. There's simply no need for them to take the risk. Like serial killers, most often, they go for the easy targets and know where to find them. It's tragic. I remember a couple years back people were getting so worked up online because in some city, someone thought it would be kind and uplifting to leave a single rose on their parked car in a grocery parking lot and everyone thought it was traffickers... it's not. That's just not how it works. Sorry if multiples, it wouldn't post. Hope you and yours stay safe and well, always.

[@ocdraridrogonel]

it's no one else business that's why, single women have to deal with this cold world just like single men do, this is why men and women are better together... choosing your mate is the highest decision!

[@chaoticodin09411]

Bro really said “my wife has prepared a statement for you.”💀

[@relatablerealness]

I thought i was crazy for a minute! Fukn bozo!!!!

[@SunshineJohnson-g3n]

That SHIT Just Irritated Me To My Soul, 😮

[@jakevendrotti1496]

And then read it in the third person! She referred to herself by her first name instead of "I"? GTFOH, this guy's a real moron.

[@Kristina-zt2op]

The fact that the neighbor heard a woman scream and was suspicious enough to take photos of the truck but didn't call the police...so frustrating. I'm sure she regrets it now.

[@NatsuDragn33I]

He doesn't regret it. He regrets being caught. Fuck him, 38 years is chump change for what he did. I hope Ava has good people giving her a good life and helping her past this.

[@paghal11]

Well it's a functional life sentence. He's not living to 82 yrs old in prison with mental illness to that degree.

[@NatsuDragn33I]

@@paghal11 Oh, I wasn't aware he was... uh, math... 44 years old? Yeah, now that you reminded me of that it makes a huge difference. I guess I'm just so used to seeing videos of teens getting away with murder and a few short years xD

[@djjinerson]

Yeah hopefully good enough people to get right what our joke of a court system got wrong

[@absolfan1184]

I knew that husband was the shadiest man alive as soon as the detective went "What were your marital issues?" and he gives the old "She didn't cook enough, heheh, women, am I right?" Also that utterly baffling followup comment of her "Dating 10s when she's a 5." Like nice way to diss her, and what a great way to reduce her down to nothing but a number, not a person any more.

[@feelthejoy]

Right like he’s claiming she’s cheating but it’s the fact that she’s supposedly dating dudes that are too hot for her that he doesn’t like, not that she’s cheating??

[@MrWombatty]

My guess is that Gretchen had been gas-lit from day 1 of their marriage, but dramatically escalated after his accident!

[@mlisaj1111]

@@absolfan1184 I DON’T think he is not guilty due to insanity, but…a severe head injury is no joke, and sadly, there aren’t great treatments for it. People can change utterly, and he clearly seems off, telling a story even a 12-year-old would call out as sounding like a bad movie. Would he have done that without the head injury? We will never know.

[@littlehizzle]

It wasn’t the part where he lost his job and his first thought was to take a cross country vacation without his wife?

[@susanengel-ix8bl]

When he said that it made me sick.

[@Jovigirl85]

I was in DV relationship made to move from NC to Ohio being abused daily even while going through breast cancer. One night I heard screaming outside I threw on some pants ran outside a lady was in her yard screaming crying. We saw police coming. She thanked me because I was the only one to come outside to help. I ran to neighbors when my abuser hit me and took my phone and left. I asked them just to call 911. They refused saying they weren't getting involved. I was so scared and shocked they wouldn't call I was completely helpless and terrified.

[@La.Summer]

Those are sone dark evil neighbors. Calling 911 is not "getting involved."

[@donnaparker3748]

I would have brought you in, and protected you . I hope you are ok now.

[@davidj4662]

@@La.Summer People know the police can't protect them and if called to court as a witness the defense attorney will attack you to remove your credibility to jurors. Your past and anything personal will be made public.

[@delynndehardt1859]

I woke up one morning & saw a nude woman out in front of my condo door. I ran out & tried to untie her. It was not until I went out that anyone else came. They had seen, but made no move to help her until I went out. The first thing she said after I got her head & mouth free was, "my baby, my baby.". I ran to her condo & got her baby, not even thinking that the rapist might still be in there & all I had on was a thin summer nightgown. Only looking back did I realize it was a dangerous situation. When I got back with the baby, my neighbors had her in their home & covered with a sheet. These situations are confusing at the time they are happening. To me it all happened in slow motion. But my neighbors said I was moving faster than they thought anyone could. Adrenaline I guess.

[@ally6526]

Sorry to hear that your cries for help went ignored.. There are those that think that getting involved can put them in danger too - that's what I eventually found out after MANY occasions of experiencing DV.. Some people are natural born hero's and the rest just can't be bothered 😢 Sorry you had to go through that, yet glad you didn't even hesitate to help that poor woman and her baby.. Stay strong ❤

[@jdsmith8282]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought it was stupid that woman didn’t call the cops

[@Matt-bs9ym]

The neighbor is the dumbest person of all time

[@5h4d0w5l1f3]

Right not the man who killed his wife on camera and pretended she was a whistleblower

[@pugachevskobra5636]

He's not dumb; he's a murderer. She's dumb because she heard the screams and pleadings of a woman in danger but didn't contact 9/11 but somehow managed to feel the situation was dangerous or peculiar enough to warrant taking a picture of David's truck and license plate. So yeah, she is dumb. A complete dumbass who should have to look Ava in the face every day and explain why she didn't try to save Gretchen.

[@cosmosrunner2468]

That doesn’t take away the fact that a 911 call could have saved Gretchen, and then going on camera to confirm her stupidity.

[@OhhOk]

​@@5h4d0w5l1f3😒😒😒😒 So you think the neighbor is smart? Both are dumb. Ones a dumb killer. Ones just dumb.

[@OhhOk]

​@5h4d0w5l1f3 are you arguing the neighbor is smart? What's your point.

[@marielle3548]

Only 38 years behind bars? It should have been life without the possibility of parole!

[@djLagwayEnjoyer]

His family failed him and Gretchen. After his TMI he should have been hospitalized in a psych ward. Obviously that fucked him up even more than he already was. Just a sad situation all around

[@mlisaj1111]

⁠​⁠@@djLagwayEnjoyerLongterm psych hospitals pretty much don’t exist anymore in the US….Regan closed them. The few inpatient psych units that remain have very short stays, for good and bad. At the one I worked in, the average stay after a serious suicide attempt was 1 or 2 days, though this is based on the inpatient care generally does not lead to better outcomes). The psych units that do exist are often financially insolvent, and kept open by hospitals as a community service. Everyone wants better mental health care…but no one wants to pay for it. Our small unit had 3 nurses who did nothing but fight with insurance companies for payment. Just go to any inner city and you can clearly find many people with far more debilitating neuropsych issues, left to the streets. It varies a bit by state, but it generally EXTREMELY hard to have someone legally committed, and until courts get involved due to a crime, it’s typically only for very short-term, crisis care. It’s not like in the movies.

[@mikeappleget482]

It says a lot about a certain segment of our population when they believe exactly what an insane person with a TBI believes.

[@killereverb3928]

It would have been life w/out parole but they cut a deal so the family could bury her rotten carcass remains.

[@Mikesusendsadasdc]

Preds get less time then that....... How sad.

[@KE-hr4sb]

Neighbors are too scared to be mistaken and get somebody in trouble. My mother used to physically beat me. My brothers told me they once heard me screaming while being beaten. They were playing with the kids next door. No one ever called the cops. My mother would even take me to church black and blue. I got lucky enough to make her mad enough to kick me out. It's sad how many other victims don't make it because people are afraid to be wrong. Recently, my sister and I were talking, and I mentioned our brothers saying they heard me screaming. She said it reinforced her resolve to call the cops, even if she thinks she could be wrong, when there are screams that don't sound like playing (interspersed with giggling).

[@HeatherL7290]

Im so sorry you had to go through that😢😢this is why I always say something....

[@PaendaTube]

Maybe you just had a really loud scream while being punished If i know your mom is a god fearing woman why would i assume she is going to kill you Maybe you aren't a good child and you misbehave in your own self righteousness and individuality And if everyone in the neighborhood knows that as a common occurrence where you end up still being alive why call? If it was the screams of your mother I'm sure they would have called, but if you screamed all the time and you got punished all the time it's just par for the course Don't take it so personally, you're not that important and internalizing that will make your life allot more pleasant

[@La.Summer]

​@@PaendaTube​ WOW. You have some messed up logic. "God fearing," or pretending to be, is no guarantee and is sometimes a cover. Just because someone ends up alive the next day... Are you serious? The day they don't end up alive do you reconsider your choices? It's too late then. Someone screaming from being beat, if it even lasts just minutes, is not discipline. Hearing screaming while playing with your kids (which implies the passage if time) is excessive. You should be checked out (in person) by a psychiatrist because you may be unaware that you are a narcissist.

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

Your "brothers" are assholes

[@aaronvalerio19]

"She's into essential oils" hahaha That cracked me. That guy's nuts!

[@ToriFreeman-s1f]

I’m not shocked the neighbors didn’t help. I live in Oklahoma and everyone here says the “love their guns bc they can protect people with them and take out the bad guys”. And while what happened to me last week wasn’t a bad guy it was two huge dogs that tried to attack me and my cat. I screamed help me as many times and as loud as I could. NO ONE CAME.

[@chrismadrid7849]

Did you buy a gun ?

[@ToriFreeman-s1f]

@@chrismadrid7849 no but I have thought about how lucky those dogs were that I didn’t have one bc they would be dead, instead of back in their yard a block away. Im far from a gun person but I’ve always thought about owning one despite them making me uncomfortable, especially if it protects me and my loved ones (a cat 😂) I was just shocked no one came to help me I was always taught to scream for help.

[@derekbottabing4]

​@user-fs2dt4tj4s but if you had a gun u wouldn't and couldn't be a victim anymore. I bet your a Democrat huh

[@ankiking]

People have guns because they are afraid, so they will not step into any situation that might be scary.

[@markmalaney5224]

​@@ToriFreeman-s1fSad truth is that when it comes down to the nitty gritty there's only 1 person you can count on and that person is YOU!!

[@MigiChill]

While in college I was walking my dog down a bike path one night and saw a girl walking quickly, arms crossed, head down. A guy was aggressively catching up to her. I asked if she was okay or needed help. She smiled and said no but thank you. As a girl myself it felt wrong to just walk away. I decided to hang around and watch. Sure enough I saw her run from him and heard arguing. They ran into a field and when he threw her down on the ground I called 911. I found out they were in a relationship. She wasn't upset about the cops being called and thanked me again. All I'm saying is Better safe than sorry!

[@TimTheEnchanter0]

I’m glad you listened to your intuition. Most women have zero sense of self preservation, and it is annoying to be lied to when that can be the difference between life and death.

[@Fluttershiez]

This case is truly haunting. It's so sad that Gretchen tried to call 911 through Alexa but it didn't go through because it wasn't hooked up. :( RIP Gretchen.

[@BrookeKatherine.]

From that recording I think she was just screaming “Ahhh” and Alexa recorded that moment thinking she was saying Alexa because she doesn’t say any numbers. Unless there’s another video but it said that was the Alexa recording.

[@MT-if1jr]

AI IS demonic

[@user-pi7ug4dm6m]

She yelled Alexa call 911 but it didn't catch it which is why Alexa is much more sensitive now when you're talking and it just starts talking back to you and you never said her name it's because of this case. It misheard the call part.. and yes whenever you say Alexa it starts recording FYI

[@mitchellroberts7954]

@@user-pi7ug4dm6m bullshit explaination based on nothing

[@jacobb2805]

To be fair, I’m not sure any human or device would interpret the noise she made as what was transcribed in the video

[@user-wickedflower]

Lady cop 5.2’ sure knows how to escalate a situation to 6.7’ 😂

[@SpicyGramCracker]

You won the internet today 🎉

[@kaileybryant0544]

He really said “I’m gonna protect her and her whereabouts“ what a sick individual

[@ameliashostak4764]

I have an ex, it's the very last guy I was ever with, (so far) we've been broken up for years now, he was diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder by a doctor, so not just me throwing around a "buzz word" and he talks EXACTLY like David. All the talking in circles, the word salad he uses, NEVER shuts his mouth but yet also manages to say absolutely NOTHING at all. Just like Jodi Arias, it's completely terrifying that these "people" are walking amongst us every single day...

[@Pignificent]

That's a bit insensitive you know. People with disorders can't help the way they were born.

[@informitas0117]

​​@@Pignificent They can try to better themselves, they can promise themselves to not hurt others, they can get help. I'm schizophrenic, I can't help that either but I'm responsible for my actions. If I hurt anyone due to my illness, I'll make sure it never happens again. This is MY problem, no one else. It's pathetic to hide behind "they can't help it". Ofc they can help it, they choose to not better themselves. The only point you have is that sick people shouldn't be feared, the absolute majority are harmless.

[@issax4667]

@@Pignificent you're a bot. shut it.

[@CFaith23]

@@Pignificenta narcissist is not born that way- it’s a character choice in their choosing to ignore moral compass- narcissists are masters in manipulation, lies and deception tactics! Every choice they make is designed to control,abuse, and destroy the people who they can not control or no longer get their way with- severe cases of narcissistic personality people show them to be Psychopaths capable of anything when they feel they have lost control and a person sees them for who they really are they can’t stand it!!! Be careful of overly nice people because underneath the mask you might be dealing with an unstable, mean, manipulative, malicious liar, psychopath.

[@ameliashostak4764]

@@Pignificent The irony of YOU saying MY comment is "a bit insensitive" is freaking comical to me. If you knew even the tiniest bit of the narcissistic personality disorder you know that they ABSOLUTELY know what they're doing, they just don't care, and do you know why?!? Because they're known for not having a single drop of empathy for anyone! They go out of their way to find the person with the most empathy in a room, and they stick their claws into them. So you saying that I'm "insensitive" because I can spot similar behaviors in another person, please forgive me, is A JOKE! It's laughable. Good day to you.

[@SMK352]

Wow this dude is in such denial even when he’s caught red handed. What a coward. I have never seen a suspect so bullheaded during an intergation.

[@fionawallace580]

Imagine trying to live with him….poor Gretchen

[@daryl4225]

He seems insane. Gretchen even said he's bipolar. A really tough situation.

[@CokoCurious]

He’s mentally off

[@roguerayquaza2547]

When the neighbor exclaimed, "She screamed for a long time, saying no, stop, it hurts, I didn't call the police," I immediately went to the comments section.

[@KatMa664]

This neighbor took photos. She heard screaming stop. You’re hurting me, but she did nothing because she didn’t hear HELP. Oh well that’s a shame.

[@funnyanimalshorts643]

Normality bias.

[@smokeyoak]

I bet it haunts her every day. But they never would have gotten there in time to save her.

[@DirtyDanMunicipalMan]

That cop “My man you just excersized your right to be quiet, so why don’t you do that. Smart man.” Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Dreas_Diaz88]

“No one yelled help” what a horrible neighbor. Could of saved her life 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Kleberei]

COULD HAVE

[@Spectyrr]

Sadly I doubt it, she would've been dead still by the time police arrived, it just would've sped up him going to jail.

[@Newjerseyblows]

Always call 911 if you're not sure

[@Lucius_Aurelian_]

She would’ve been in the dark once police came

[@JimboSlice-t5i]

​@@NewjerseyblowsYep always and convey as much information as possible, it's easier for you to give all the information available to you than it is for somebody being attacked, so the person being attacked gets to call quickly and fill in some gaps giving much more information to responding officers, instead of just the little bit from each individual.

[@kendog167k]

How do you not call for police when you hear someone yelling "stop", "that hurts" for several minutes? People are so oblivious!

[@clemensruis]

One time, when I was sleeping at my girlfriend's place, screams woke me up in the middle of the night at around 4AM. They emerged from the courtyard.. so I got up to look out of the window, when I heard someone else shout "shut up or I'll call the police", and she responded, screaming "yes, please call them!".. I looked out, looking down from the 5th floor, and saw a woman on the ground in what seemed to be a night gown.. and two stories above a window was open.. I guess she must somehow have fallen out of the window and hit the top a wall on her way down. I grabbed my phone to call the police, but it didn't take long for people to come out of the building to rush to help.. or to watch, and not long after police and an ambulance arrived to take care of her. It was such a shocking experience, and I'll never forget the initial reaction of someone shouting "shut up!".

[@INKovari]

Q: Did you know Gretchen had cameras all throughout her house? A: This is the first time I heard about that. Those cameras are in your car. Well they’re mine. 😆

[@lexi76405]

Whoops-a-dasie 😅

[@johnanon658]

I jave to say, this guy was a really terrible murderor, lol. Andbwhat was the motive anyway??

[@Kiev-in-3-days]

Not the smarter match in the box.

[@taleandclawrock2606]

​@@johnanon658she had started divorce proceedings, most commonly women in dv situations are killed trying to leave him.

[@DanaTheInsane]

And this is why I pay for the cloud storage service so they can’t just steal the cameras.

[@privateprivate1865]

It never ceases to amaze me of the lack of self awareness of malignant narcissists.

[@Outworlder]

That word is very often overused, but I think it applies here pretty well. He tried with the cops the same sort of tactics they use with other people. "You have a history of lying, so..." while lying through his teeth. "So you say". "Blood may not be hers, have you ever thought about that?" Unbelievable. He sounds like my mother.

[@Refertech101]

well this is a damaged brain scrambled him, people really fail to grasp how damaging brain injuries are / can be, they will fundamentally alter the core of who you are

[@jesusisgod4992]

​@Refertech101 With all due respect, their are millions of people with brain injuries who don't commit murder.

[@privateprivate1865]

​@Outworlder yes it is overused.. but I know the difference between narcissistic and malignant narcissist. I'm no professional narc detective, but he is definitely Malignant.

[@privateprivate1865]

@@jesusisgod4992 not sure if you are responding to my malignant Narcissist comment? But in case you are.. I agree with you , but the killer does exhibit signs of a high degree of Narcissism

[@natasha83196]

Let’s normalize calling 911 when you hear screaming. People are just so dumb…

[@funnyanimalshorts643]

Culture. Suspicion of authority is healthy. But when even those about to die from the murder, refuse to give up their assailant? That's culture.

[@TheMonsterguy411]

Cops rarely ever do anything anyways

[@fuzz6938]

@@TheMonsterguy411you're an idiot.

[@Laughy-Flaaffy]

Neighbor: _”I saw the whole murder, but didn’t hear anyone say ‘help’ so I didn’t call the police”_

[@stgatvmi]

Even took a picture of his truck in the driveway that morning for some reason and still was like “welp. Nothing suspicious enough for me to call the cops”

[@yohyoh3614]

She should be ashamed

[@alciawalker7127]

She heard her cries possibly could’ve saved her life did not called police and that’s going to ride her for the rest of her life