KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON Movie Review **SPOILER ALERT**

[@shanekajohnson1320]

When Brenden Frazier stood up in that courtroom and started hollering ppl in the theater literally laughed out loud 😂

[@djstarsign]

I’ve seen it twice and the first time, I was jarred by his acting choice. The second time, I realized it had to be intentional in how over the top and exaggerated it felt. I laughed when someone posted that the academy should take back his Oscar after this performance. 😂

[@funnyguyla]

I laughed too because his bellowing sounded exactly like his character in The Whale, and I often make fun of that too.

[@christinebuckingham8369]

@@djstarsignHe actually was accurately portraying a dishonest, good ole boy arrogant big mouth lawyer! I thought he was great for the part!

[@gnosis555]

Lawyers are like carnival promoters and campaigning politicians, especially before TV. They really had to sell through theatrics.

[@azure5644]

@@christinebuckingham8369going for that character is the right choice but he should’ve been more subtle with his performance.

[@Alexgrl99]

Did you guys notice that flies followed Leo’s character? I think it was meant to allude that he was rotten from the inside out

[@randyf5126]

the best scene in the entire movie was the beginning when the native americans discovered the oil! them jumping around in it in slow motion was beautifully shot.

[@ladydoc7221]

The film did not reveal that even before the oil the Osage were a wealthy group that owned its own land unlike other groups….

[@Alexgrl99]

Also another small moment I liked, when mollie sees the owl and it goes away…then in the same place Ernest’s footsteps appear as if he is the death that’s coming

[@lokello89]

That scene was so perfect!

[@pamelalansbury94]

“Cape Fear” “With mark Walberg?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@seamusfinnegan775]

You guys are hilarious. Nick has an encyclopedic knowledge of movies and movie history, and Joseph says things like, "Do I know this director?" or "Have I seen that movie?" Your reviews are very entertaining.

[@tweety11226]

And thats why I love this dynamic duo ❤😊

[@michelebaratt8403]

A person Who makes review online that dosen' t know the name of ( the very famous) directory of the movie he Is reviewing? How Is this excusable or funny?

[@bees.857]

​@michelebaratt8403 They intro every single review that way. It's called banter. It gives the viewers information and and is entertaining for most of us as well. I didn't realize the gatekeeper of film review was in our midst. How gracious of you to bless us with your supreme knowledge. Oh BTW Joseph has a medical memory issue that's not really any of your business but you should feel like a dick.

[@bees.857]

​@@michelebaratt8403I don't know how your grammar/spelling is excusable but here we are.

[@michelebaratt8403]

@@bees.857 a medical Memory issue? What a pathetic excuse for plain ignorance! You can do Better than this, mr.defensive attourney! I would be very Happy to bless you illitterates with my supreme knowledge : ask me everything, i Will do for free! Lol

[@fizzychizzy]

This may not be accurate to the book, but in the beginning of the movie, they showed two Osage men dying while they were young/in their prime from a random disease. I got the impression that the men were targeted and killed which reduced some of the male population in the tribes so that if the woman wanted to marry they had to marry outside of their community. It was all calculated, of course. But even still, I kept thinking about how they kept marrying these white people that were not even hiding the fact that they were greedy and lazy and over charging them.

[@Maggie-jk8lc]

I was really disappointed by how much they focused on Leo & De Niro over the Osage people.

[@caliban5505]

I loved the scene where Ernest and Mollie are hosting Hale for dinner and announce that they are having another child. De Niro’s reaction is so subtle and haunting.

[@Bringmethehorizondude]

The best Leo scene to me was when they send the doctors away and he’s yelling at Molly. The angrier he gets and when he calls her a bitch, it felt so unsettling to me. It’s a side that he hasn’t shown up to that point and yet it feels so natural. It also really solidified how much trust had been built up between him and Molly to that point.

[@Tiffany-gz7wt]

Leo in your background shot, looks like a disgruntled pug. Sad Leo pug mug.

[@heavenly5523]

True that Lol 😆

[@cassandrayang5418]

I love you guys!! Ya crack me up!! "That kept calling him handsome 6 times" LMAO I agree though I was like Umm he is handsome? Is that the ONLY MEN are available? hahahaha

[@gamerdrops]

Leo D was absurdly old to be playing a young chap just back from WWI. What did u enlist when u were 45? What the hell were you doing for the 27 years before that?

[@Alexgrl99]

😂😂😂I didn’t even pick up on that but you’re so right. He was supposed to be a young chap and that man is pushing 50!

[@82566]

🤣🤣 yesss !!!

[@arielatomhc]

One thing I noticed was Leonardo DiCaprio starts in peasant clothing when he enters the town and as he gains money and power he is dressed in richer higher status clothing and when he goes to jail he's back in peasant clothing. It was a nice touch that everyone in the film was dressed to show their status.

[@Mizosoop]

This is a true story. It was like they assigned White babysitters because the government didn’t think the Osage were competent enough to handle their own money.

[@scothatfield]

The book had a solid narrative while still sharing lots of historical facts I never learned in school. Hoping they don't make Leo's character too protagonistic because the actual person eventually did the right thing after lots of evil shit. Appreciate your review as always!

[@blakequick3099]

They don’t make him to protagonistic he has some redeeming qualities but it’s obvious he is a selfish person who is easily manipulated and did bad things for greed and personal gain

[@tinapuddin9923]

Shutter Island Is one of my favorites that movie got me I did not see the end coming at all.

[@tweety11226]

Not Nick watching this movie twice lol. This movie is 3 hrs and 27 mins long. Thats almost a part time job for one day lol. This review is me watching the movie 😂 Thank you fellas 😊!

[@slc2466]

With the trailers, it was 8 minutes shy of 4 hours at the theater I went to. As we walked out, my friend's wife was calling him, and she wasn't happy. . .

[@SoniT]

This is why I'm hesitant to see it. My husband and I thought about seeing it last weekend but then we saw the run time.

[@justinriner86]

I love your reviews and trust them more than any other source of movie critique.

[@fetishmagic2419]

Tea

[@vitolibido]

Yes all the other reviewers are saying how great this movie was.. this movie is was torture. These guys actually have a brain

[@funnyguyla]

Love your reviews! I thought the movie was great, but also frustrating. Like Joseph, I couldn’t understand why these wealthy Indigenous women wanted to marry a bunch of loser-ass white men, especially when said men didn’t hide the fact that they were after their money. And even though I loved Lilly Gladstone’s presence, she wasn’t given enough to do, especially in the third act. I wanted to know what she was thinking, or why she was standing by her no-good man for so long, knowing what she knew. It made no sense. I guess I have to read the book.

[@pumpkin03]

White supremacy is a helluva drug. They saw these white men as better than their native men despite the white men being losers.

[@jenniferbaumgarden9293]

My 73 year old father would LOVE to see this, but no way would he be able to sit thru 3 and a half hours in a theater seat. I guess he'll have to wait until it comes out on a dish channel, because he's old and doesn't have streaming. LOL

[@nikitamohan3390]

It's coming out on Apple TV's streaming platform (since it's their production and movie). Even if you subscribe to their streaming service for ONLY 1 month, there's a high chance it's MUCH CHEAPER than watching it in theaters.

[@slc2466]

Yep- I just turned 57 and saw it with my friend (49). Bathroom breaks were necessary, and I abhor missing a moment of any movie I go to, but at some point in that third hour, nature is not just calling, but screaming. . .

[@puspavelai8353]

"Hiding" among them, as the "pillar of society" is the usual villain.. Oof! ...not forgetting the "vultures" who follow the scent! Am thinking it's a western with 'history' on its side..older viewers may appreciate🤨 I feel It's a long 'test' for me though!😀

[@macebluemoon369]

That's Fear...this is Cape Fear. LMAO!!! Dang Nick you know full well that Joseph doesn't really recall these things as well as you. But I understand. Because I'm the same way Nick. Even so I've tried to simmer down.

[@marcelmartinez6537]

Coward is the word I would use to describe DiCaprio’s character, his fear of his uncle and his greed drove him to monstrous acts

[@superkat_619]

Great review. I really wanted to love this movie but I couldn't. I kept looking at my watch in the theatre, which is never a good sign.

[@pamschneider2568]

Oh my God I just watched this tonight guys and I did watch your review before I watched it months after the review and forgetting what you said I was literally saying “oh my God come on already” I had to actually pause my watching of it to see how much longer it would be. it was so good, but it was yeah draining and too long but very good. Love you guys.❤

[@rachelm.3173]

Great review 💯 I've had my eye on this movie release.

[@jujutaylor2186]

Been waiting on this review. The only film that might get me into the theater this year

[@opal817]

In light of your comments it's interesting that they actually expanded Lily and the Osage's role compared to the original script, which must have sidelined them entirely.

[@kharikhy-ree2242]

Your reviews are always entertaining but very thorough. Also women are way more forgiving of ugly men, than others. I think it's strategy in their heads to lower the chances of infidelity.

[@davidjrhd]

Scorcese said they restructured the mivie to move the focus from the white savior and more toward the osage characters, but it doesn't feel like it. Of course when you have DiCaprio and deniro, how can you not focus on the marquee names. But i think they should have brought the women more into focus. Mollys hard drinking, gun toting sister was fantastic. I know the book gave her limited time. But i wanted more of her. Plus when i sit for over three hours, its not that time that i resent. I had to sit through six commercials and five previews. That feels disrespectful to me.

[@Dhhtyu4566]

Oh god so true - all the dam trailers and commercials waste so much time - in the streaming era movie theaters need to remove all that

[@davidjrhd]

@@Dhhtyu4566 running time for previews and ads: thirty minutes!!

[@Azuwat]

I havent watched the movie but i feel so triggering becuz im a minority n i experienced all these similar crazy situations of oppression. This is not good for my mental health. This is insane

[@IndengiousGoth]

They really need to stop making these fucking movies

[@RykComerford]

Don't overlook the "oppressed" Indians were rich, because oil was discovered on the Osage reservation. Skeptical any evil, white, predators married into your family to steal your money.

[@SephirahPlasma]

You should probably stay away from this one then. Some films you shouldn't see if you know it'll adversely affect your mental health. Stay safe. ❤

[@djstarsign]

Marlon Brando as Billy Bob Thornton in Slingblade is 100% accurate 😂😂😂😂

[@TechnicJunglist]

Thank you both for the review. Coming off Ken Burn's Buffalo 2h 2 parter on pbs, and jumping right into this, will be emotional. I read the book last year, and it was brutal. Around 60+ Osage Indians were reported deceased through these years.

[@MeghannMonroe]

I went to see this movie bc y’all said it was good. ALL FOUR HOURS 😅. But to y’all’s question of why did these women marry these white men? A KZbinr Alachia Queen adds a lot of context missing. Please go watch. But 1: The state government in an effort to gain control over the land offered many Ossage us citizenship. Many took the offer. 2. Of the ones that got citizenship, they shipped the kids to American boarding schools. They came back looking down on those who remain traditionally Osage. So those Americanized girls and women would be more attracted to white men. Which totally makes sense. Also bc of the guardian laws preventing those women from being able to take care of themselves or spend their own money, it would benefit them to partner with white men.

[@Alexgrl99]

That is so interesting! Ty for sharing. That adds some much needed context to the story

[@MeghannMonroe]

Joseph mentioned De Niro’s accent. I got it. It’s a version of Leslie Jordan 😂😂

[@marcelthompson3000]

"Mark Wahlberg?" Same Joseph same! Lmao

[@slc2466]

Always a highlight of these videos when something like this happens!

[@herbs42069]

You guys are the best. I only watch a fraction of the films you review but never miss a review regardless. 🔥

[@johnattanlafontant9412]

i enjoy this channel so much i started to watch the reviews of movies i watched years ago thank you

[@erikchristensen822]

I'm curious how Joseph would rank Barbie, Oppenheimer, and this movie. They're considered 3 of the frontrunners for Oscar and Joseph gave all of them 3.5 stars. Nick liked Oppenheimer the best.

[@mshockey73]

You did a great job reviewing this film gentlemen. There were things I missed or misunderstood about the movie and you guys clarified that for me. This is a movie I'd only see once but it was important story to tell...

[@jucxox]

Thank you Joseph for always speaking my mind with these movies!

[@pauloroma8436]

11:09 - The movie portraits a sexual reason for the girls approach to King's guys. By the movie they're enchanted by these new guys in their community.

[@robbriner9575]

Based on being a true story and Martin Scorsese’s reputation as a director who doesn’t care about fame or fortune, I had “Flower Moon” flagged as must see in the last quarter of 2023. I saw it today, and admired its extravagant recreation of a different time and place, Robert De Niro being Robert De Niro, and a very perceptive inclusion of Native Americans and their plight. However, Flower Moon is mostly a movie about wretched people doing wretched things (murder, murder, murder), was relentlessly evil, and was so interminable that I walked out after three hours and ten minutes because I was tired of being on the verge of throwing up. (I looked up the run time when I got home and saw that I missed “only” the last twenty minutes, but I don’t regret walking out. The small army of character actors in Flower Moon was fun to watch, but Leonardo Dicaprio had a comical frown plastered on his middle-aged face for 95% of his time on screen. Flower Moon is an old-fashioned “Major Motion Picture” that tries hard, but again, I fled when I had had enough.

[@happyhappyjoyjoy9795]

"Well just get a drink girl" 😂😂😂 Rich 🥂🌟

[@basil33]

I think it’s smart that at times we are made to sympathize or even like Earnest. In this way we can understand why Mollie doesn’t want to believe that Earnest is pure evil until the end

[@JLamstudio]

By the way, LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING is 4 hrs and 20 minutes!!! 😂😂😂

[@williamerazo3921]

But do want to see victimization and misery for 3 hrs when see these people get there land taken

[@mbealhighjump]

Wait… Nick has never seen Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, or The Departed??

[@pharoahworld_class_hustlae9997]

I had to think about that too, im like, The Aviator, Gangs Of New York and even Wolf on Wall Street should at least came in mind for Nick to name Scorsese movies.

[@LibrasReact]

These days I cannot commit to a 3+ hour movie. I'd be more likely to watch it made into a mini series. 😂

[@marshalalley7366]

I am a new subscriber to your channel. I am so glad I found the two of you because I really enjoy your reviewing style. I originally wanted to see a review of Saltburn, which I loved, but I have been binging you ever since.

[@domwalker6526]

Leo an Uber driver in 1923 I love it!!!!

[@TheMetrored]

My impression was that, for the Osage, marrying a white man was an easy way to get around guardianship restrictions. I would have been nice if that were spelled out the guardianship requirements because my understanding is that's what opened the door for all these vampires to come in and leach from the community.

[@gaylecheung3087]

I don’t want to cry and angry, most likely I will see this at the theatre

[@anthonymusto3537]

Joseph your progression as a film critic on this channel is truly inspiring!And nick well,you were always a movie nerd😂❤

[@julieshannon7269]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but your spoilers are better than any movie😊 My husband just told me the connection of Robbie Robertson, RIP and big ❤, is The Last Waltz. Joseph I'm married to a know it all too😂

[@rickyevans124]

Love the Velvet Rope shirt

[@Warren_90210]

This movie was brilliant, haunting and timely. In a time where many (myself included) are examining ethnic cleansing and genocide, we get to see another case of how white supremacy operates in a not so distant past.

[@tashabellamichelle3477]

I need to see this one! Great review.

[@travisgray8376]

The federal government was worried with the Osage spending so they made a law that created white guardians n those guardians had access to the payment which led to corruption and all that later it all changed but for awhile white guardians were in charge of the Osage wealth. Wish the film explain it n explain how people would make Osage people buy new cars everytime they ran out of petrol instead of just buying petrol.

[@MovieRelated]

Thank you for not being afraid to actually criticize the movie. I can't tell you the number of times I've heard reviewers use the word masterpiece. 100 percent agree with your takes.

[@ravenpicks]

It was a good movie but way too long. It was like a miniseries. Good acting and good dialogue. I like the women actress who played Mollie the best. Lily Gladstone should win an Oscar. It is so sad.

[@TheNegative]

27:29 Hahaha omg I thought this too. He yelled and it was like, underwhelming. Like his voice didn’t hit right. I think Brendan Fraser casting didn’t go as well as it was intended to or something

[@petebondurant58]

Attorneys were probably more theatrical in those days. People didn't have television, so they weren't used to over the top emotive performances.

[@elizabethjackson6042]

It’s hard for me to watch anything when there’s cruelty against Native Americans. I also hate the timing of when this movie came out right before Thanksgiving, which is just a reminder of why I don’t like Thanksgiving.

[@cooper1st]

I've been waiting on this movie and your review. It is a Scorsese film, so I expect nothing shorter than 3 hours.😅 I ordered the book too because I have a feeling that I am going to want to see the source material. Thanks for another excellent commentary. 😊

[@vivaciousom5347]

The book is excellent. Incredible true story. I’m so looking forward to seeing this movie tomorrow night.

[@kandilikr]

Love this review guys.❤❤

[@angelrojo6466]

I feel like the days of a handful of directors (Tarantino, Scorsese, Spielberg etc.) dominating the film scene is obsolete. And the same actors like DiCaprio, Hanks, Pitt, getting paid millions to keep churning out films every year is utterly ridiculous. We need more diverse stories and voices. Young voices!! - not the same old tired faces and stories.

[@gambit952]

I only got a ticket for the extra credits I received. I wonder who the Osage men were marrying for the women to have married out. Or if they were abusive and not suitable for marriage.

[@RenCen78]

I wondered the same.

[@williamphillips1400]

Let’s all fight over Leo’s handsomeness

[@maqanyllo]

😂😂

[@pamelalansbury94]

Well now I want to see it just to compare the levels of handsomeness against Leo

[@travisgray8376]

Did you know the real Ernest that Leo plays only died in 1986 that's not long ago.

[@jamilarobinson733]

Again, thank you both for the honest review, I read the book, and when I found out it was going to be made into a movie. I knew it would be a hard watch.

[@williamskat1]

Your review is even more fun after I have watched the movie.

[@lalaelectra]

Great review guys

[@DrDetfink]

I love your channel. Come for the insight. Stay for the facial expressions. I thought a part of the interracial marriage aspect had to do with marriages that would combine wealth. You definitely saw that discussion between Molly and her family. While I don’t think someone like Martin Scorsese can get deep enough to truly make a film that fully explored the Osage culture and thought process. However I’m glad he made the attempt. I’m hoping we get more 1st nation films.

[@chrishubbell3313]

SIX WEEKS?!🤯🤔🤨CASINO & has no idea who directed it? CRAZY! Lucky you’re handsome !😍

[@slc2466]

Of course the interrogation scene, which Joseph mentions as an Oscar-worthy moment for DiCaprio, was the point I finally HAD to hit the restroom after three hours, so now I'll have to track down those five minutes at some point.

[@fishjellyfilmreviews]

Oh no!

[@slc2466]

@@fishjellyfilmreviews Thanks for the heads up concerning a key scene I missed most of! I'm a movie nerd and want to see every second of a film, especially maybe the best one in a 3.5 hour epic. And note to Mr. Scorsese: if William Castle can have a "Fright Break" towards the end of his classic, "Homicidal," than this movie should have a "Bathroom Break" for five minutes when hour three starts- it's only fair to the viewer.

[@jeannajanowick1887]

Can't wait to see this movie, and you guys are awesome, I'm at work, hiding, watching this video

[@divakingsley9020]

Hi guys…looooong review is needed for a long movie. I won’t be seeing this one. THANKS for posting.

[@JLamstudio]

A lot of the clips I’ve seen with De Niro and DiCaprio have been hilarious!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@moondawwg]

After all the Israel-Hamas war coverage, nothing screams palate cleanser more than a good old 4 hour misery porn flick from Mr. Scorsese... just what the world needs right now!

[@ahlishaholloway233]

We've been vomiting with disgust and horror, so might as well cleanse our palette with actual human shit

[@JKnight1316]

honestly a very apt release date considering

[@lillieknight]

That’s what I was thinking. Scorsese always does downer movies. Don’t know why he’s so popular.

[@tigerlilly9038]

​​@miserycherub666 Respectfully I disagree as a Non-Native person I feel like I needed to know about this and respect the tragedy. I do not delight in "misery" or "downer" porn. for someone to call it such [ I know that is not what you did] is insulting and dismissive to a nasty bit of work sanctioned and committed by our government. Shine the light on all the BS.

[@ssme_]

Glad for this review because this movie is way too long for me to care.

[@indauroleal7953]

Sometimes Joseph plays ingenue way too in your face. I wonder if he is trolling us 😂

[@susanburgess820]

I just can't guys. So darn heartbreaking for the Osage people🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛

[@travisgray8376]

The guy who wants to Adopts the kids n then killed them but gets caught beforehand he's the one who pulls the trigger on Anna. Ernest brother was helping him hold her up but that guy who looks cold blooded pulled the trigger in the film.

[@coltekr]

Comedy??? Really? I never saw it as a comedy, so I’m kind of surprised this review took it that way. Also I thought that Molly’s actress did a terrific job throughout the film, DiCaprio’s acting lacked subtlety in places, at least for me. To me, the film felt like a documentary told in the form of fictional story telling. People who have interest in historical documentary would most likely appreciate it. The story is very tragic, and the ending is going to be hard to swallow for those who can’t accept the fact that it’s based on a real historical crime. All in all, it was good but also kind of depressing.

[@erdbeermund78]

For me the best part of the movie was where the guy said get your pencils. I thought that part was funny. I liked this movie even less than you did. I gave it two stars, but I did also like the radio show at the end.

[@DanieldeBavaria]

DiCaprio second Oscar would be so nice.

[@slc2466]

Definitely possible- voters should love all the complexities in the role, which Leo does a fantastic job in illustrating. In riveting fashion, he had me constantly wondering about the mindset of his seemingly-dim character.

[@jenniferbrumley2746]

I 100% can confirm as an osage. It is draining

[@sarahinsf]

14:04 Ok, I am still watching this and I think you all are great -- but I gotta say, Cara Jade Myers as Anna is certainly NOT "corpulent"! Hahaha! I mean, she's like a size, what, 10-12? Pffffft!

[@petergrossi6605]

The movie is also about racism, and who didn’t do it

[@erniegouws7262]

Yes, wealthy racism against the poor, the racist federal government against hard working middle class 🤔

[@nevetsny1]

Three hours twenty six minutes. Not including 25 minutes of trailers and ads. Somehow heartbreak feels better. No, Ms Mrs (I don’t keep up with celebs) Kidman.

[@Purplenpinkk]

You should watch Age of Innocence. It’s such a departure from what MS usually directs. It’s my favorite of his, really.

[@slc2466]

Winona Ryder gives a masterfully subtle performance- I thought she was unforgettable.

[@Purplenpinkk]

@@slc2466 agree. Honestly, the entire time I just wanted to shake her. I mean her naïveté and lack of passion or any option on anything juxtaposed with Countess Olenska is chef’s kiss. The detail in that movie is incredible, but MS is the master at that.

[@brendaeubanks4491]

In real life Molly didn't go to Washington DC

[@desmondscalaro3669]

Also one of the members who saw this filmed wished it was from an Osage perspective which I agree on. On the positive note this film probably made people more aware of the historical tragedy that befell the Osage nation

[@jenniferbrumley2746]

I'm an osage from grayhorse and we had way more murdered...the descendents today still suffer

[@js7dragon]

Why couldn't the better version be from the perspective of Mali?

[@morrisb6469]

Killers Of The Flower Moon was so good. Deniro. DiCrapio. Native American true story. 3 1/2 hours and I could have gone for more. ❤🍿

[@True-Believer616]

I'm over these movies showing how these people conquered and dehumanized other cultures throughout history. But yet another great review from you guys.

[@fi8urefilms959]

I really wanted to see DiCaprio and De Niro get murdered in a Joe Pesci in Casino kinda way lol and people should seek out Lily Gladstone in Certain Women and Fancy Dance which will probably be released sometime after this film.

[@criscated9827]

The scene were De Caprio'a character was being interrogated, i think he was acting that way because he tried the poison and mixed it on his drink the night before he was arrested