Killers of the Flower Moon & Reboot Star Wars! - The Weekly Planet Podcast

[@JermMoth]

Snake Eyes for the tenth week in a row? You guys are spoiling us like children. Thanks a billion

[@centy64]

There simply isn't enough Tom Holland on the show, he's my favourite guest.

[@jonbaxter2254]

That voice always cracks me up. He talks like his voice is breaking and the guy in nearly 30.

[@stefanheinke9975]

I like how Maso was all-in on denying Kick ass any significance 😄😄 That's the spirit right there

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

The only reason I'd want to see a reboot of Star wars would be for the curiosity of seeing what star wars made in the style of modern day block buster with modern technology would look like, but that'd honestly just The Force Awakens so I'm good

[@jontwance1868]

Can’t wait for Kraven 2: Krave more

[@Terrible0x0Trivium]

It's Kravenin' Time!

[@exzyyd392]

Let There Be Kraven

[@shaecouture7480]

Kravener. Which will dovetail into "Kravenest"

[@mikemcglasson1286]

a Krave TV original

[@tonys7246]

I had just finished brushing my teeth and was actually gargling when Maso mentioned the Gargoyles gargling

[@austinsavage5962]

I think i finally realized that james plays the defenders theme so the song doesnt say butthole that way they dont get demonetized

[@Terrible0x0Trivium]

🫦👄

[@CrowTRobot]

Gargoyles was great but apparently Season 3 is universally reviled. Looks like a lot of the writers left after Season 2, including the showrunner that went on to create Spectacular Spider-man.

[@toasterdogg]

"but we spent the entire weekend watching Killers Of The Flower Moon" These damn movies just keep getting longer and longer. Used to be you could watch one in just a few hours, now it takes days.

[@DynamicSheep]

After jumping into an episode for the first time for their 500th episode, I have to say that I'm really disappointed that they forgot all about their Snake Eyes review 😢 I've just got to know if it's worth watching with my own snaked eyes

[@RusPitman]

Classic Nicholas Cage movie, I'd recommend it.

[@niallgaffney2475]

Mason’s idea to reboot Star Wars is to make Dune.

[@Milaaq302]

Gargoyles was amazing. I'm sure everybody remembers it.

[@AndrewBehm]

Didn’t they already reboot Star Wars with the Force Awakens?

[@BaithNa]

They certainly tried 😂

[@Terrible0x0Trivium]

No, they should have. Instead they decided to tack a bunch of bullshit onto the end of Lucas's Saga.

[@Holdthetomatoesplz]

⁠@@Terrible0x0TriviumLucas always planned on making 9 movies, so while there were creative differences I wouldn’t act like his saga was over and they “tacked it on”.

[@Terrible0x0Trivium]

@@Holdthetomatoesplz definitely not his vision for sequels, definitely FEELS tacked on

[@Elfenlied8675309]

@@Terrible0x0Trivium Yeah because George's idea for a sequel trilogy was absolute trash. He wanted all the remaining Imperials to hold up together on a planet and just refuse to surrender "Like the Iraq war" whatever the hell that meant, since George Lucas is still to this day obsessed with George W. Bush. He wanted Darth Maul to come back with giant spider legs with Darth Talon??? as his apprentice and that Talon (Who was a character from 200 years before Darth Maul was even born) was supposed to be the "New Darth Vader" and be Mauls servant? Implying Darth Talon had just been alive for hundreds of years for no reason and with nobody knowing. Just for her to then become Darth Mauls apprentice when she's 300 years older than him AND for Darth Maul to become the galaxies biggest crime lord???? He wanted Leia to kill Darth Maul and Talon and for her to be elected Supreme Chancellor, Luke to build a Jedi Temple, and for the story to end with Leia actually being the chosen one. Lucas wanted it revealed that Anakin AND Luke weren't the chosen ones. It was Leia. Complete and total dumpster fire trash from George Lucas.

[@henryglennon3864]

If I had the twisted mind of Matthew Vaughan, I'd reboot Star Wars by remaking Yojimbo a third time, and see if anyone noticed. Worked for Leone.

[@anenemystand5582]

And Kurosawa is to dead to sue this time

[@henryglennon3864]

@@anenemystand5582 "A Fistfull of Dollars is a great movie; but it's also my movie."

[@ungreatfulduck750]

You realize Yojimbo is also derivated from Dashiell Hammett novel Red Harvest from 1929, right? And many of other Kurosawa works were basically Japanese versions of Shakespeare plays, right? Sorry to break it to you, but art stopped being "innovative" after ancient greece. Kurosawa did to other artist what Leone did to him, serves him right.

[@anenemystand5582]

@ungreatfulduck750 there's a difference between being inspired by thing and directly copying shots, which is what Leonne did. Like the only morally wrong thing Leonne did was never bother getting permission from Kurosawa. He made a good movie. It's a fun reimagining in a different setting. Honestly you sound like a knob saying "ah yes art hasn't been innovative since ancient Greece. Which we all know is the height of culture" Art builds on itself. People are inspired by things and make art based on those inspirations.

[@TheKingOfRooks]

I just watched Yojimbo for the first time like a week ago and I was shocked at how much it really literally is Fistful of Dollars but Japanese (well, the other way around really)

[@johnl6192]

I don’t think I’ve seen a film that has left me feeling as gutted as KOTFM in quite some time. Powerful film, loved every minute.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Really? I felt like the Osage people were so underwritten. It almost felt like the best and most interesting characters weren't given much play. It felt like the Osage people were just background to a (really good) mob film. Those particular scenes are powerful, but crafting the narrative the way they did robbed some of them of their power, especially the ending. The long take of Leo on the witness stand really hammered home to me how much I feel the film was a character study of a man who wasn't very interesting. Oppenheimer was much more powerful to me. Which is insane. A Christopher Nolan film had a more solid emotional throughline and made numerous characters more memorable than a Scorsese.

[@johnl6192]

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep gonna be honest, I don’t have the time or patience to read all that. The film wasn’t perfect in its portrayals but the positive aspects shown through and elevated it.

[@joebees21]

​@@johnl6192As someone who loved KOTFM - he has some very valid points. Worth a read. It isn't a perfect film but it is a great one. I think it's one that you should see but not one you'll enjoy seeing or will want to see again - and there's room for films like that and this perfectly encapsulates that.

[@carpeimodiem]

*Flower Moon was as gruesome as watching Passion of the Christ AND 12 Years a Slave at the same time... FRUCKIN BRUTAL MAN!*

[@jessejorgensen3931]

I remember it. Freaking loved it. I was 16- thinking, am i too old for this? I really missed it whenever it wasn't renewed.

[@ethanbnyc]

Best way to start the week - James and Maso. More Beyonder and Snails references please

[@dicedude1071]

It is kind of insane to me that there hasn't been an avengers movie or a team made from prior movies of any kind since endgame. That was one of the best selling points of the mcu and they just decided to make more content than ever without a resolution for 3 whole phases.

[@because4576]

The MCU feels like a scenic route in your home town. It's really fun and beautiful the first go around but once you realize you didn't actually go anywhere it stops being novel and eventually you realize it's not beautiful anymore just repetitive. It went from a scenic journey into a time wasting windy detour.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

They're waiting it out. I think they intended to bide their time until the two-parter of Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. But it's clear that these team-up event films are needed every three years or so. I hope Thunderbolts is that.

[@kevthepoet]

Maybe he goes back to Cheers in the first episode and it's just a backdoor pilot for Cheers and the rest of the show is just Cheers lol

[@blipmachine]

Killers of the Flower Moon is my favorite buddy-cop comedy of the year. DiCaprio kills it in the role of a hilarious goofball and his rip-roaring chemistry with Lily Gladstone lights the silver screen on fire!

[@juliuswyatt8895]

We need a guess the Scorsese movie based off the savage review.

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

2 Joker reviews in a row followed by a King of Comedy review.

[@MDoddio]

47:29 Marty also did Woodstock, where he met Thelma Schoonmaker

[@parkmannate4154]

Hey, Im having my first kid at 44 so never say never

[@BaileyZK]

I would never have wanted a re-tread of the original trilogy... until Andor. I desperately now want the original but *from the Rebellion's perspective* All the hard choices that have to be made, all the organisation, all the endless amounts of people working together burning their life for a sunrise they'll never see. You know how people make jokes about Luke being overconfident in ANH, like when he's a bit of an ass about hitting the death star's weakness (size of a womprat)? Andor for the first time really made me feel that, like why are we watching everything from some farmboy's perspective that just gets to coast by on years of everyone else's labor by joining an attack at the last minute and by getting close to the emperor in the end through nepotism lol. I do obviously love Luke and the original trilogy of course, just trying to describe how Andor for the first time made me see the potential for a great story from a different perspective. Basically keep Andor going even after Rogue One without it's namesake.

[@davidblank420]

"Oh no Captain America, Look out! Its the New Older Order." *NWO Theme Intensifies*

[@WRPLpodcast]

Finally got a letter read! To bad my car was sacrificed in the process 😢

[@Emanon...]

Star Wars needs resuscitation, not reboot. And they can easily make a new saga that takes place thousands of years before or after without any changes to the OT timeline. I'm tired of the Skywalker family tbh...

[@eyespy3001]

1000% Star Wars needs to move hundreds of years into the future. As interesting as delving into the Old Republic would be, those stories would only lead into all the same old stuff we already know (the Jedi, the Sith, blah blah blah…). A jump forward would completely free the story up to go into any direction that doesn’t lead to the same old same old.

[@jazzycat8917]

KOTFM did not need to be 3 and a half hours long. At least an hour could have been chopped easily. Good movie, glad I saw it, wish it focussed more on the Osage and not Leo DiCaprio, didn't need to be in there longer than most domestic flights.

[@Luminousreign]

Nobody can edit Scorsese anymore. It was the same case with the irishman.

[@Luke-yx5ve]

The actual story after I read up on it was really interesting, I think he should've taken the view of the FBI beginning their first big investigation and then flashing back to start to see the murders happening and we don't get to see who it is doing the killing

[@Cole.....]

Kick-Ass already had one of the least essential sequels ever made.

[@damiansilva2454]

Bostonian here.. "Cheers" has not been turned into a vegan axe-throwing place... but there is an axe throwing place just a few miles down the road. I 'm pretty sure just serves beer so... technically vegan?

[@CautiousKieran]

We need a Caravan of garbage for Yorgos Lanthimos films please.

[@SeanORaigh]

If I were given the reins to rebooting Star Wars and I didn't have the option of simply refusing, I'd emphasise the rebellion as a small band of resistance fighters and the Empire as an insurmountable threat. The death Star wouldn't be destroyed until the end of the trilogy. Maybe Vader knows that Luke is his son and is actively hunting for him, while Luke remains completely oblivious.

[@ellaisplotting]

'If I didn't have the option of simply refusing' 😆 I love it! That genuinely sounds like a much more interesting take.

[@Malky5279]

Given you can't undo any number of things that have been divisive I say move 100 years forward in the Star Wars time line and start with something new.

[@BaithNa]

They'll never reboot Star Wars because part of the acquisition agreement is that Disney can't touch the stuff that Lucas worked on, ie the 7 movies and the Clone Wars. Beyond that, rebooting would be a disaster because it can never be better than the original films and it'll always be compared to them. A part of the charm of Star Wars is that its a massive galaxy and not just the Skywalkers but if you really want to use those characters, just recast and tell the story of what happened after episode 6. What they should actually do is stop working within this divisive era and do projects in the Old Republic. Image a Revan trilogy starring Keanu Reeves, a Knights of the Old Republic series starring Timothy Chalamet as Jayne Carrick and a Darth Bane trilogy starring The Rock. That announcement alone would reinvigorate the entire Star Wars franchise.

[@Emanon...]

You've somehow managed to find the three least emotive A Listers in all of Hollywood, my guy. The Rock would definitively kill any last interest I have in Star Wars. And I was an EU books dude... I love Keanu, he's great, but they need to cultivate some young talent instead. John Boyega and Daisy Ridley were great, they just had shit to work with...

[@ridderjaim3]

@@Emanon... Daisy Ridley great? That's a lot of praise for someone who can't even close her mouth.

[@Elfenlied8675309]

Never once, anywhere, ever, has it been stated that Lucas had any kind of rules or caveats or agreements with Disney about ANYTHING. So why you and a bunch of other autlstics seem to parrot this so much is hilarious. Never once has that been stated by anybody, not Disney, not Lucas. All Lucas has ever said is that he gave them the rough outlines of what he wanted his sequel films to be and that they completely threw them out because they were "Impossible to film." (Go read what his ideas for the sequels were it was absolute trash, spider leg Darth Maul, Leia being the chosen one and being the one true Jedi, Darth Talon being alive after 400 years.) Lucas even has a quote about how Disney stopped calling him or caring to consult with him at all because they didn't like any of his ideas. Jon Favreau and Filoni are the only reasons that Lucas gets anywhere near a Star Wars property now. He has no say in anything. George may regret selling it all now, but at the time in 2012 Lucas was tired, fat, and old. He was over Star Wars, he has literal quotes about how much he disliked the fans and hated the fanbase from the time period. Saying that Star Wars fans were "Horribly vitriolic and unfriendly" He was ready to move on with his life. In his own words from 2012 "Selling this to Disney will ensure that my movies live on forever. They will introduce them to an entirely new generation that I would never have been able to. I just don't have the energy to devote to more Star Wars."

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

1:18:47 excellent ringtone material

[@kingcanadahi11]

🎵🎵 Oklahomaaaaa something, something 🎶🎶

[@CorrectFossa]

Weirdos using things like Brie Larson, Last Jedi, and Ghostbusters as infinite money glitches on KZbin have done irreparable damage to genre blockbuster filmmaking.

[@Mamoswine-s]

This is pure facts

[@Mamoswine-s]

Plus mcu and the soup genre but it is kinda justified there

[@HiddenHandMedia]

The people making blockbusters (Disney) have done irreparable damage to every franchise they touch

[@Michael_ORourke]

If I don't like a movie I just move on. These weirdos just stew and complain about stuff they don't like. The Last Jedi was released 6 years ago, Get over it!

[@jaredrobinson7071]

Never understood the hate towards Brie Larson. She was awesome in scott pilgrim. Not her fault Marvel gave her garbage to work with in her first movie.

[@Luminousreign]

She is woke and everything she is in is woke. That means it is bad. Her performance doesnt matter. People treat the characters and actors as relatively the same entitiy.

[@RogueBoyScout]

​​​@@LuminousreignScott Pilgrim is woke? 2 Ferns is woke? Good Will Hunting is Woke? 21 Jump Street and Kong:Skull Island is woke? I don't think you know what "woke" means, or you suffer socio-political Tourette's... Might be time to go back and sit at the kids table ...

[@Elfenlied8675309]

@@RogueBoyScout If you couldn't detect the obvious sarcasm blaring at you like a siren you should probably get tested. You're on the autlsm spectrum.

[@GoPieman]

I think she made a comment years ago about critics that are men or something. And then the marvel movie had a basic feminism scene about overcoming a world made for men. And she doesnt smile in the movie, which morons took as an affront. Two of those things were not even her decision. I have such low expectations for humanity

[@li-limandragon9287]

⁠@@GoPiemanIt’s also a case of bad timing, because Marvel studios by the time of Captain Marvel’s push did not get back the characters Fox owned and there’s no getting past the fact the Marvel girls everyone loves are X-Ladies like Storm, Rogue and Jean as well as Sue Storm from the FF. Carol has never been high on popularity carts and she was brought into limelight in the worst way with Civil War 2. Brie Larson pissing off incels was the mere tip of the iceberg.

[@flywheelshyster]

I always sleep in Mondays because Mondays Tues is my weekend and I usually wake up right when yiu post this but alas I slept way too much in this morning got up past 10! What am I a teenager Jesus h Mary and Joseph

[@hellfish2309]

1:05:03 if you take out both Tobey and Andrew, the writer is forced to actually work out a script, probably with Madame Web If it sounds like all I want is the series finale of the Spiderman Animated show, you aren’t wrong

[@jackkabel7704]

I think they should do a new Luke Leia and Han adventure either during or after the original trilogy and really only give a damn about continuity as it relates to the original trilogy

[@i.m.solomon2280]

Delays but Hoorays?

[@mark2graves-movies689]

I hope in some future episode your tell us what kind of digs you picked up. I hope they are shelties

[@dirtycoffee8964]

I feel sorry for burrs wife and kids 😂

[@Somebodycousin]

Mason just pitched me and Mrs smith 59:36

[@smacksalad]

DEFENDERS!

[@Teddybearington]

❤❤❤

[@RogueBoyScout]

The "Defenders" intro is now pretty much a signature of this channel, in as much as the Rage, Rage R..R... Rage is pretty much synonymous to Music Film Clips on the ABC... That is to say to remove it now would be a crime against culture.

[@markoarkaina8656]

501 not out boys!

[@TheEnmity]

I feel like I. The future they can do a full reboot of the skywalker saga. Just probably do it from episode one and make it a saga focused on the family throughout unlike the sequel trilogy. But definitely leave that shit for now, Hollywood needs to stop rebooting things immediately a failure happens

[@SATOhara3173]

I would absolutely completely avoid a reboot of Star Wars, it would completely destroy any hope I might still have that they get their shit together in the future and start making good stuff again. Matthew Vaughn is completely missing the point of Star Wars.

[@li-limandragon9287]

I don’t want a complete MCU reboot either. It shits on what RDJ and co did for the past decades.

[@YaddleOrder66]

Star Wars doesnt need to be rebooted xD people are crazy. Its cinema

[@nickgoodlock263]

Let's be honest, we could remake the original SW movies way better now. Do it!

[@andrewlawless9796]

i love exploitation and murder in my comic book movie podcasts!!

[@MAandS]

WOW. Around 1:15:00 I got introduced SCUD the disposable assassin with the Sega Saturn game. Read rhe whole Schebang too. Love Scud. I think it'd be a good show but it's sooooooooooo 90s. Not sure how to make it relevant without making it corny. I think it'd need to be a new story. Like SCUD waking up today.

[@penguindiego]

FAAAAAACK yes man

[@happiaxxident]

Left a Like for McDonald’s Birthday Cake purchased then thrown on the grown in front of children.

[@davidblank420]

Lets point out Vaughn said we needed a new epic thing and then says lets redo star wars. Lmfao this fuckin guy.

[@scarlettNET]

You're saying Star Wars wasn't epic in its scale and popularity?

[@davidblank420]

​@@scarlettNETYes, well no. Maybe. It's definitely not New tho. 😂

[@BaithNa]

​@@scarlettNETby definition, it's an epic because it's a very long story

[@badhollywoodscience]

The Karen parents in Old Dads are very much real and heavily represented in California private schools.

[@billysunday7507]

First

[@cluckendip]

Why is it "what are we reading today" and not "what are we reading this week"? perhaps it's time for an update

[@toddnolastname4485]

There's no reason to remake Star Wars. At least not the original trilogy. Reboot everything since then, with the original EU. Although, I did have the thought of doing a shot for shot remake of the original trilogy to bring in new stars, in the format of a tv series, and tell the rest of the story. Some background on Luke, Han, and Leia. Also Biggs. That story would probably contradict Rogue One. Then what happened at the end of the ANH? Where did the rebels go? Why are they just settling in on their new base on Hoth in ep 5? The story of how the Bothans got the plans to the new Death Star. Is it really a new Death Star, or the original prototype?

[@JJJBunney001]

We don't need an explanation for every second of every day for the characters which is what people seem to think is needed. That's essentially what the ol EU books were and it got a bit ridiculous when we had hundreds of books leading up to 70 year old Han solo punching armoured mandalorians in the face

[@sirdaveysockrocker]

James is kind of being a hypocrite. He regularly complains that studios focus too much on brands, and then dismisses gargoyles because it’s not a BIG enough brand. 🤦‍♂️ giant walking gargoyles could be amazing, regardless of how well James thinks ppl know it beforehand 🤨

[@WeeklyPlanetPodcast]

Yeah that's fair, like you said at least they're giving other things a shot. I don't have much faith in them supporting it in any way post release

[@nyyfandan]

Captain Marvel had a bit of "girls get it done" energy that seemed a little annoying and very out of place considering the character was supposed to have amnesia. The first wonder woman made that character come off as way more likeable, which is a little disappointing since Brie Larson is definitely a better overall actor.

[@BaithNa]

That's on the writers though, there's no reason for people to harass and target Brie Larson when she was just doing a job.

[@Elfenlied8675309]

​@@BaithNa Brie Larson gets harassed and has for around 6 years now because she's just an unlikable person in real life. She comes off as obnoxious and narcissistic and overly antagonistic at pretty much every live speaking event she goes to. If it's not her saying "Wrinkle in time wasn't made for old white dudes." its her saying that "Women are forced to sit through movies with male leads, so males shouldn't complain about having to watch Captain Marvel." Or it's her getting asked about the Captain Marvel sequel and responding with some snarky trash like "Who cares? Does anybody even care if i'm in it or if a sequel gets made?"

[@Luminousreign]

Star Wars is so diluted and tarnished as a property that a reboot is just going to kill it. Just make a different sci fi thing at that point

[@MrHerolet]

THIRD

[@dominicmako4649]

Brie Larson doesn't want to do super hero movies anymore? Oh no, that's terrible news.

[@MrTwon1610]

Is that like a personal attack

[@kite-flying_potato]

I'm afraid the Frasier in the reboot might just start Jordan Peterson-ing all over the place.

[@Fromage10x]

It's it me or did they seem a bit confused?

[@nohomers100]

How about we retire Star Wars altogether and we can move on to something new? Remember all the wonderful new things we got in the span of 1983-1999? No Star Wars in that 16 year period

[@JJJBunney001]

Wow it's almost like you can do both old and new things...

[@JoeElJalapeno1810]

Sadly we cant have more good things like Andor cause people are stupid Reboted star wars is the worst opcion they could have, wich givin that they f up all otger opcions is the only 9ne they have left How patetic

[@Elfenlied8675309]

Did your subhuman ass just spell option wrong like that, twice? Like you actually think that's how it's spelled?

[@YaddleOrder66]

I want to like these directors but they show their pretentiousness when trying to dunk on Marvel or Star Wars. Sorry your movies never peak as high just get over it.

[@elbaecc]

Whats up with Leo playing racist villainous roles?

[@Dorian_sapiens]

Of course you can not like somebody. But if your reason for not liking them is bad, you might get not liked in returm.

[@PinkgloRadio]

The last thing this world needs is a Jesus movie 🤮

[@bgs7529]

Lily Gladstone should have been on the thumbnail🥲 I could not look away while she was on the screen. She IS everything

[@KnialPiper]

First