Kimberlé Crenshaw on Critical Race Theory, Intersectionality & the Right's War on Public Education

We speak with renowned legal scholar Kimberlé Crenshaw about right-wing efforts to curtail the teaching of African American history, queer studies and other subjects that focus on marginalized communities. The College Board, the nonprofit group that designs AP courses for high school seniors, recently revised a curriculum for a course in African American studies after criticism from Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and others who maligned it as "woke indoctrination." The new curriculum removes Black Lives Matter, slavery reparations and queer theory as required topics, and drops many major writers, including Crenshaw, from the reading list. "Anybody who's concerned about our democracy, anyone who's concerned about authoritarianism has to wake up and pay attention to this, because this is how it happens," she says. Crenshaw coined the term "intersectionality" to study the overlapping or intersecting social identities and systems of oppression, domination or discrimination people experience.
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[@ripadipaflipa4672]

I was in a charter school in the 1970’s and wanted to learn more about native Americans when I was 17. I was able to go out and find an elder to learn from writing my curriculum. It made me a better person, mother and citizen.

[@jamberry8026]

You should have learned it in public school.

[@neatneat9088]

I am a 57 yr old African American woman and I learn something new about my own history even today. PBS, Democracy Now, AARP, etc. have done an excellent job during Black History Month.

[@Dispatcher813]

Black history month is stupid, Iam black all yr. I dont need a month to feel worthy. You can learn black history on your own time. I am so sick of this BS.

[@tflg3257]

Sure you are Jan.

[@powerbottom4971]

Okay go ahead and tell me what you've learned from this pseudo intellectual?

[@FlawlessP401]

There's no such thing as black history. It's just human history.

[@gypsyart6040]

AP Courses are College level courses CHOSEN freely to be taken by Seniors in High School who wish to earn duel credit, High School credit and College credit at the same time. A student CHOOSES which AP Courses they wish to take. They are in no way REQUIRED to take any particular AP course or AP Courses at all. The have CHOICES! You can CHOOSE to just stick with your regular High School courses also. We need to STOP the FEW Extreme Right parents from stripping our children of a well rounded education! The MAJORITY of parents don't want these book bans and course bans etc. So why are the MAJORITY allowing the FEW to choose what our children do and don't learn?! It is the PUBLIC SCHOOL system! If you want Private education then pull your children out of the Public School System and place them in Private schools that cater to your Extremism or better yet Home School them! The rest of us want our children to be taught HISTORY & SCIENCE! WOKE means 'to be informed' so Hell yes I guess I prefer Wokeness! Because our children deserve to be INFORMED and knowledgeable of TRUTH! Because if we do not know our History we are in eminent danger of REPEATING it!

[@shovelhead2155]

Are you OK with them banning "Huckleberry Fin" and " To Kill a Mockingbird" or telling a half black student to leave the classroom because they look like an oppressor. Yes it happened so don't deny it. Woke is racism in disguise

[@shannalee2520]

School in America, is already so bad, that the govt is planning on reprogramming our children from wef drones set up on schoolbuses, and burning books. Where *is* their science? Why do Nazi eugenicists get our money for their drones and microscopes *our* children can't even look out of? Why do our kids not have lead free water yet, while The Ukrainian Zelenskeevia spends our money on purses in Paris worth more than setting up a homeless vet in nice housing, with healthy food, and a college degree, which we can all safely assume, she doesn't really have, but, may have bought, as a farce, if it fits her needs. We get the ads for the nazis.

[@Habib_Osman]

It is natural for young people to go against the grain and to question the ways of the old.. protest movements for that reason fit together snugly with the type of thinking teens often have. It is easy to fan the flames of this natural subversive teen tendency, but schools should not just aid subversion. Schools should not intend to make every student an activist. Yes, it is important to show the dark sides of a countries history, but a school should not forget to mention all the good a country has done too. I think it is here where people disagree on education. Schools and academies should not only make room for the story of the suppressed and the suppressor, it should also be a place that talks about normal people having normal lives.

[@franksullivan1873]

My Grandson had his Associates Degree before he Graduated from High School.He got a lot of junk out of the way.

[@franksullivan1873]

Woke is a joke.That is why we are now 17th in the education of our children in World.Schools teach junk and most of the kids cannot read properly.

[@shawnleveston1945]

This shit is truly the MATRIX. Try to wake others up and see if you don’t get ATTACKED !!!

[@qjtvaddict]

Change the language

[@shawnleveston1945]

@@qjtvaddict Change your language and get REAL.

[@geangarcia2673]

@@qjtvaddict good point

[@mysteryof7]

@shawnleveston1945 Ain’t that the truth! 😂

[@henrywolkers1914]

How much does race pimping pay these days? The answer will explain the motive, and why you won't get a job that benefits everyone.

[@kimhart5037]

Please black Americans teach your children please don't wait on a debate or a system that's been built against us for 400 plus years!!!! I teach my children everyday is black history month not just for them but myself and my husband our history is full of so many twists and turns so much to be proud of and so much pain at times for myself and my family but it's our calling from God to know who we are the more we learn the more we love our GOD ourselves and our people 🥰💞🥰💞🥰

[@Habib_Osman]

Which god are you talking about? Wikipedia categorises about a thousand or so different gods, accumulated throughout our collective human history over thousands of years and thousands of different cultures and languages. I believe there are about 5000 different gods being worshipped to this day in 2023.

[@cynthiadickerson5403]

@kimhart5037 I don't understand why we are waiting for anyone else to do what we should be doing for ourselves. I don't hear of people who do not look like us waiting for us to teach them their history. We need to handle our business.

[@theajayieffect]

The point is to teach ALL races this history so we have shared understanding. I can teach a Black child the truth outside of school doors all I want. If the others aren't learning the truth and fed lies, my efforts are weakened.

[@Zee-xb9zm]

You teach them black history but still worship the white man god lmfaooooooooo

[@TBOTSS]

@@theajayieffect Black people sold black slaves to other blacks, Europeans and Muslims. West Africa's chief domestic and export commodity was slaves. Africans were unable to write - The Muslim gave them basic writting skills and the Europeans codified their speech in the the written African languages known today. African's built no cities, no industy, produced no science or mathematics - just slaves. The far more advanced Muslim and European trading saw no value African products except slaves. Africans enslaved and sold slaves for near-worthless trinkets from Europe and the Middle-East. Europe ended the slave trade not only in the West but also in Africa - Africans had nothing to do with it. Even in Ethoipia it took Mussolini to end millennia of slavery. Nearly all of the infrastructure was originally built by Europeans and now by the Chinese. Ancient Egypt was not Black this is a myth and in fact are no sub-saharan African civilisations. All political, social and economical civilizing institutions are European which Africans are destorying. Africans cannot even look after thenselves needing the charity and help of the West. AFRICAN HISTORY 101.

[@katieakin9397]

You don’t even have to take AP courses, sad that College Board folded so quickly for something that is elective

[@jamberry8026]

@@dayvision9742 What, you think there are no black lbgtq people? DL and closet people would have you think that black people don't do that, but it is a lie. What scares you people so much about being who you are?

[@jamberry8026]

@@dayvision9742 Black history is not only about slavery and oppression. White folks would have you believe that. You are really exposing the fact that you have repressed homosexual feelings and tendencies that you are ashamed of. You can come on out the closet. No one is going to shame you but you!

[@SagesseNoir]

@@dayvision9742 What the right wing seems to have done is simply put together a list of things they wanted to censor. They're anti-Black and thus ban or heavily censor Black history. They also are against gay folk, and made that part of their ban. And they're against abortion, so there are laws forbidding people to discuss that. It's like Nazism and fascism. Nazis were more anti-Jewish than anything else, but they banned and suppressed a lot of other people and ideas too. American right wingers are more anti-Black than anything else, but are opposed to a lot of other people and ideas too. This is America

[@SagesseNoir]

@@dayvision9742 But has anyone "thrown all that other stuff into Black Studies"? Queer theory already exists as a separate area of study. Of course, you can study gender issues within the framework of Black studies. In that context gender identity or relationships within black communities could be studied. But that's another matter.

[@SagesseNoir]

@@dayvision9742 Probably because there's no such thing as "pure" Black Studies, or puree anything. Black studies, like Black people, exist in a real world that is very complex. For example, if you want to understand Black economics you must be cognizant of the global and national economy even though your focus may be on Black economic conditions.

[@e.t.ethics1771]

Why does PBS not allow comments on their videos? Just asking here. -- Rents are sky high and investors are gobbling up ALL housing and raising rents by 200 to 300 per month every couple of years, if not in less time. No one is listening and these large buyers cannot be stopped. This is a huge SHAME. Housing is a * right! Every town house complex, every single family house, almost is being sold to investors. Yet we keep getting more and more migrants coming into the country. Wages ARE NOT keeping up with the rise in rents.

[@cooltuber1404]

Teaching the truth about racism and individual rights is one thing but bias for political gain or for other means through ideological indoctrination is something entirely different. BTW what does Queer Study have to do with African American History ?

[@jinakiabdullah4432]

Yes, what does Queer Theory have to do with African American Studies, especially for young impressionable minds?

[@jameslong1644]

Soon this evil will cancel itself, but not before it destroys many.

[@jameslong1644]

@@xbfdx988 100% and it’s eating it’s own.

[@anwaypradhan6591]

That particular establishment which devide it's own people on the basis of colour of skin, ethnicity, religion and race, that particular establishment which doesnot provide dignity, honour and respect to it's own people, that particular establishment which fails to provide political, economical, social and cultural dignity and respect to its own people cannot be considered as a progressive democratic establishment. It would always be considered as hypocrisy. Time has come for every of the citizens of that particular establishment to think reliable, human friendly and trustworthy alternative for ever developing state politically, economically, socially and culturally.

[@Robert-bb9wi]

I'm wondering exactly what is the real issue ,did they attach something inappropriate to the study or are we just being told that ?" Issues of human sexuality is tangential to any subject about history . It would be more important to learn who ,what ,and where rather than who they slept with unless the historical accounts can't be discussed without that !" Sexuality should never be placed on the same level of history unless it is a history of sexuality and its broad influence on historical events !" Agenda driven reframing robs everyone attempting a serious study of this matter , and is more about present day wants and needs ,and less about historical relevance as a whole !" Apparently somebody wants to tell a story , but the issues of racial discrimination are not based on African Americans sexual preferences ,but about the color of our skin !" Like I commented earlier ,sexuality is tangential to any discussion about history in general and is not the main driving force for the abuses we've suffered in this nation !""

[@Robert-bb9wi]

My main question ,what exactly is the real information ?" Queer theory is exactly what ?" And was it attached to the CRT ?" Is that the way they teach it in colleges and universities ?" Or is this just another piece of bullshit red meat they throw out to their base ?" I've never studied CRT as a subject ,had never heard of this theory until everyone and their mother started to object to it being taught in their schools to their children !" Only to find out that was a total lie !" What I wanted to know ,is this also a lie ?" Does anyone have more than just an opinion ?" We've been lied to before about this whole subject ,how can you trust what he says ?""

[@Robert-bb9wi]

@@dayvision9742 thanks for your response ,CRT or any other black history course should not be burdened with the albatross of another special interest group !"that's not only disingenuous but racist in its own right !" You're going to appropriate our struggle to push an agenda that has little to do with our main issues here in America" that's not liberalism , that's disrespectful in its highest form !" That our studies are nothing but a platform to reframe into another agenda ?" Of course we should object !" Who is directly responsible for this ?" Who contaminated this ?" Once again that's not liberal ,that's racist !"""

[@Robert-bb9wi]

@@dayvision9742 by the way ,I'm black and in my sixties . My formative years were the original civil rights movement !" I became a man in the seventies CRT was not something we discussed in the many black homes in my youth !"

[@bonsummers2657]

Albino Afro people consider themselves black. It's not about skin color, it's about racial type,… which is evidenced also by genetic-clustering-markers in DNA.

[@curtrice6060]

Please read “ James Baldwin’s”, Go Tell It On The Mountain “.

[@Lp78Ch]

Why? That book was SO BORING.

[@gabrielmaroto18]

Harriet A. Washington Medical apartheid

[@carolynedwards-philpotts3181]

@@Lp78Ch Are you looking for excitement? Because we should be, looking for, WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING, MOST OF ALL UNDERSTANDING.

[@jamberry8026]

@@Lp78Ch boring to you, because you didn't understand it.

[@SagesseNoir]

@@Lp78Ch Actually, a very interesting novel. Baldwin is much better as an essayist

[@Happy-uy5wc]

Ron Desantis is heading a new program in Florida schools called, "Fahrenheit 451"

[@shojaejlali1290]

I don't think many people, even in this comment section, read books!

[@lawrencefootes5093]

They can't hide their past, because God is a witness against these devils!

[@bonsummers2657]

Why does slavery continue to occur in Africa to a signficant degree? Apparently over 600,000 slaves in Africa right now.

[@firstghost3038]

What about the intersectionality of Black boys raised by single Black mothers with their intersectionality?

[@daa5249]

Will intersectionality allow more opportunities to find victim-hood? If yes, then it's a great idea!

[@pretzelandmustard]

Hang on, let me check my Marx victimhood chart here... medium. A Native American trans girl raised by single Native American trans mother is higher. According to this chart, black boys raised by single black mothers actually have power and will oppress because ya know race and sex pre-determinism. [/s just in case]. This woman's mind is infected with a racist sexist cancer.

[@johnheart6890]

I’ll vote for de Santis. Never Trump- but Desantis- certainly. I used to be a democrat and liberal- not by todays standards. You guys can cut the country in half and emphasize how America is the most racist Country in the world; - when it is close to the least racist country in the world, because it is far more diverse than most countries, perhaps the most diverse country on the planet. So many people want to come here, legally and illegally. Have you or anyone you know applied for a green card lately? If the country was as racist as you claim, why would anyone want to come here? To get here it takes a tremendous amount of effort- and still lots of people of color try. Why? You can tear down statues of Washington, Lincoln, and even Frederick Douglas- all were vandalized during blm. (Where did the money go? Would you mention the real estate purchases of blm personnel in the AP course?) You can deny the existence of abolitionists and John Brown. You can hate on Jefferson and claim he had no redeeming qualities, while the confederate vice president blamed Jefferson for being progressive and starting the end of a slavery (the cornerstone speech- google it.) You can try to transition 15 year old kids with hormones and operations. You can promote Marx and never mention his racist comments and never cancel him for his racist comments. You can do ALL those things- it’s a free country. I will vote for Desantis. I am not saying that racism Doesn’t exist. But I am saying this- telling lies doesn’t help. The lies that white peoples have told must be acknowledged- there is no doubt about that. But you can’t fight lies with more lies. That is not the way that the universe progresses. If you want to regress than go ahead and lie all you want. I will vote for Desantis.

[@MrIAMTHESIR]

History MUST be told COMPLETELY... The TRUTH will ALWAYS prevail...

[@brigittebeltran6701]

The Roman Catholic Church will NEVER admit the billions of dollars their Spanish Portuguese ships brought them from African slavery...NEVER!!! The pope did apologize to the Canadaian Natives for kidnapping, abusing and exploiting the residential home children. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!!!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@yourmilkman632]

Stuff is garbage

[@yvonneplant9434]

@@gangstadrz9326 Admit that you had never heard of it before a couple of years ago. Just go back to being ignorant of it and you will be much happier.

[@desert08glider]

There are negative incidents and treatment of blacks that has been glazed over u doubtedly BUT there are falsehoods and focused, intentional promotion of incomplete data that also disproves many of the stories told about slavery and treatment of blacks in this country. Pushing a racist agenda is wrong regardless of which side you are on.

[@desert08glider]

If you feel more appeased by voluntary victimhood and continuous dependence on focusing on the negatives there is no point in debate. To ignore the sacrifices by whites to ensure the laws and rules were changed only displays your inability to accept any responsibility or appreciation for those that fought to change things. I grew up around every race, I fought next to every race and never was there a mention about race but in the last 10 years, those that wanted to not be judged by their race no judge all by race. Very sad tonl see. Amazingly it appears those that are upset at their lack of success are the quickest and most forceful in pushing it isn't their fault

[@michaelmorrissey1052]

She worked hard to graduate from Cornell and Harvard. Maybe we should encourage young people to do that instead of telling them they’re oppressed victims.

[@vsalukir7019]

No, Crenshaw is one of the people that came out against color blindness. She is a huge advocate for identity politics and she wants to use that as a tool for the implementation of neo Marxism.

[@annanelson6830]

1984, predicted this in what…1948? Changing history to match the political winds…the book was required reading when I was in high school in 1980.

[@CHIEF_420]

Necesitas compartir buenas información con otra señoras en sociedad para tener paz 🕊️. Muchas damas son ignorantes personas hoy...

[@shannalee2520]

Harrison Bergeron, too.

[@144Souldier]

We in the black community do not want our kids learning anything about queers. Why is that even associated with black history. That's disrespectful.

[@JoeJackson-yo1eg]

I support you to have and to live in accordance with your own beliefs and values. That challenge is when you pursue adherence by all of us to your beliefs and values. I absolutely needed access to information, history, and analysis of Black queer identity and experience. I absolutely support all young people to have access to that information, history and analysis - especially, Black youth. So both as a matter of fact and of conscious - you are incorrect in your assertion that "We in the black community" don't want our young people to have access to information about the queer experience. Some of us do, as I do. And some of us don't, as you don't.

[@SuperGhettoBob]

What a softball interview. Goodman did not ask any challenging questions of a highly controversial speaker. Nor did Goodman ask her to clarify her comments when she spoke in vague, pseudo-academic gibberish.

[@ustand2186]

How could they take out slavery? I'm glad that people are digging into the truth of critical race theory and the REAL content of this learning.

[@dr3dio]

Seriously? They did not remove historical sections on slavery and the Florida curriculum is made by black scholars. Do your homework

[@jaymill3832]

Can anyone tell me why queen theory being lumped in with African American studies?

[@bill1398]

Because queer theory and critical race theory are based in critical theory, which comes from a specific form of Marxism. Look up Kim Crenshaws link to Herbert Marcuse. You'll find more about the frankfurt school, Antonio Gramsci and cultural Marxism. The president of the American Library Association, Emily Drabinski, is an open queer Marxist. These people talk as if they are classical liberals interested in reason and individual liberty but truth be told, they are more interested in systems of power and the revolution of the proletariat. They don't want to fix injustice, they want to dusmantle Western civilization as we know it. The truth will prevail, which is why CRT will fail.

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

Those who claim _(implicitly or explicitly)_ that being against "why†e-supremacísm" is the same as being against "why†e people," are why†e-supremacís†s. _(No matter which party they belong to.)_

[@paulallen2919]

yup

[@Rick_Riff]

Saying that black cops killing black citizens is "white supremacy" is illogical and alienates potential allies. It makes sense with the right context, credibility is lost when the term is applied in a nonsensical fashion.

[@tomr7222]

woke racism

[@tracygreen1695]

Native, Mexican, Asian and Black history needs to be in ALL history books

[@ericparis224]

this is not about all that. Just black

[@tflg3257]

Nope. Black American history is American History.

[@DJK-cq2uy]

The Republicans won't have it

[@dr3dio]

Lol so if you actually did some homework you would know that floridas black history curriculum was made by two very well respected black scholars and black history is already covered heavily in Florida schools.

[@drmarioschannel]

Kimberly Crenshaw seems to frame it as a republican ban, but has Biden shown any dissaproval?

[@aarondover2975]

Don't think Dr Seuss,gone with the wind, huckleberry going to be part of teaching Democratic leaders banned that already.

[@qjtvaddict]

Repub should be banned

[@abedofevilandlettuce]

Yes.

[@drmarioschannel]

@@abedofevilandlettuce link?

[@denillefleming2942]

He has appointed a diverse coalition of a cabinet and democrats are very diverse. Trump was all white and proud of it. Birther conspiracy rampant. I was so proud of our country when Obama was elected, it showed the hope and promise of the Constitution! The KKK woke from slumber and became active again under various titles. It truly sickens me to see our country revert to the 1950s.

[@sedgwickmcalaster7785]

If you watch a child drowned would that make you EVIL if you watch a man be beat to death would that not also make you EVIL

[@stella3265]

Most people do not realize that there millions who are suffering economically and can not make ends meet. This has to be a class struggle. We must organize and mobilize realize that capitalism perpetuates bigotry and inequality. We need a grass roots independent labor movement and a rainbow coalition the way Fred Hampton realized it in Chicago in 1968-69. 1 share 1 vote, empower the workers.

[@sistahb5159]

Class struggle? NO! This is about Black people and the US 🇺🇲 government's ongoing agenda of attaching All other groups to American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) to weigh us down & have us MULE for them. The REAL issue is REPARATIONS for ADOS!

[@bonsummers2657]

Why is there so much violent crime in Chicago?

[@sethward1835]

SOMEBODY had to say it, comrade :)

[@ialwaysshine.]

“Say what they stand for once an for all” 😭🙌🏾👏🏾🙌🏾👏🏾

[@sandragillespie7668]

What does for once and all mean? Do you possibly mean for one and all?

[@7swordmary567]

*Q. How many DECADES and BILLIONS of Reparations Funds has The U.S. itself AND EU Nations GIVEN Israel❓And WHEN can we expect MATCHING Funds to be devoted to making Amends for 400yrs SYSTEMIC HATE CRIMES / Crimes Against Humanity Ethnic Cleansing by this nation* ❓

[@sistahb5159]

You forgot to add Reparations to American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) for 400 years of slavery & terror, because the US 🇺🇲 & so-called non-Black, anti-Black POC are now pretending they all went through the same historical experience & terror. Add to that defacto slavery (prison leasing & sharecropping) & genocide/terrorism in the form of Devil's Punchbowl Holocaust, post Reconstruction terror, lynching, bombing, burning & destroying prosperous Black towns & businesses, murdering it's citizens, & stealing their land, & farmland (still occuring right now), medical experiments, no GI Bill, no FHA loans that every other "POC" - Hispanics, Filipino's, Asians (who were legally White & could go to White schools & colleges(, Cointelpro, cut more jobs to Black men, crack put in Black communities to finance the Contra's & destroy us, mass incarceration for the addicted (NO opioid addicted White people compassion & lawsuits instead of prison). And now Black boys with autism many times more than any other race or ethnicity due to vaccines. And now the constant LGBTrans agenda pushed specifically at Black children & teenagers more than any other group. Absolutely demonic!

[@RaycurtakaFIDDLA]

All the legislation against CRT proves the obvious points of the theory 🙂 thanks for the extra promotion

[@yoidkldk]

LOL so true! Excellent point!

[@icemike1]

Critical race facts

[@jewulo]

@Day Vision Well, Martin Luther King Jr. will disagree with you. He believed that the best way to get broad support for anti-racism was be inclusive of other struggles. White working classes, Anti-Semitism, e.t.c. You can logically extend this to LGBTQ+ rights.

[@666ojeez]

@@jewulo And MLK's beliefs were in contrast to CRT

[@dirkster42]

@@666ojeez MLK's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" gives the best one-sentence summary of what Critical Race Theory does I've ever seen: "Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application." And he's specifically talking about the injustice of racism in that letter. So, no, MLK is not "in contrast" to CRT.

[@manuelbello5806]

I wonder if a 12 year old college student would be unhappy. Grant Feely or Preston Oliver should play a super smart kid

[@benyaminyisrael4634]

why cant we draw a line between what is called black history and the alternative lifestyle agenda, they are not connected and are not based on the same struggles. Every state in America teaches black history...has not been a problem until now when we let outsiders put a hidden agenda in the teachings.

[@benyaminyisrael4634]

@@dayvision9742 I said it before and I'll say it again white supremacy is at the core of this movement.

[@QuestionsIAskMyself]

Because the oppression of Black people thrives on capitalism.

[@Richie4uAI]

This is so tragic. This woman is insane. Thank god you guys still have normal logic minded republicans to save your children.

[@sararichardson737]

Why! America needs to know why and how America is. Surely,this addition to the curriculum,is enriching.

[@sararichardson737]

@Day Vision That is egregious.

[@tomr7222]

woke bs is not history

[@bonsummers2657]

Apparently there are over 600,000 slaves in Africa now. Why?

[@meteorbaby369]

CRT and intersectionality werent the only issues. Queer theory is NOT African American history. Woke history is not African American history. If they would just teach history without all their ideologies mixed in then DeSantis wouldnt have had an issue.

[@jsweet1864]

You need to take a Black history course. It's obvious you don't even known what your writing about. Blinded by rasicm and homophobia.

[@nikm5628]

There are much shorter ways to say you don't understand the nuances of black history...

[@Momusinterra]

This is not what Amy wanted to hear. Good job making it real.

[@CHIEF_420]

@@Momusinterra 🐵

[@therealspeciesunknown]

@@CHIEF_420 wtf?

[@RobertSmith-gc7mf]

This is what happens when you have nothing to stand on, all the hundreds of years of lying to people about race, when there's only one race and that's the human race. But we are your starting point, your beginning and your end of lies!

[@zaharralane3753]

When one has to censor, rather than provide counter-arguments, it is oftentimes speech most worthy of First Amendment guarantees and protections. It also proves the weakness of the opponents’ arguments.

[@CHIEF_420]

Necesitas compartir buena información con otra señoras en sociedad porque muchas damas son muy ignorantes hoy... 📰

[@aarondover2975]

They banned Uncle Ben, syrup and 1st black lady to win academy award in gone with the wind less 6 months without asking public thanks Democrats

[@bamse1618]

Next thing you know the republicans will say that slavery never existed in the USA. I guess for some authors who want to exercise their rights to speak, write, and share ideas and opinions without facing punishment from the government (Freedom of Speech), is a right given to only those on the right.

[@jamberry8026]

Uh huh.... And that MLK was actually a white man.

[@cherylhughes1692]

Conservatives will eventual say that Africans came to the USA as immigrants seeking a better life.

[@FASBLAQUE]

@@cherylhughes1692 They're already saying that in Texas schools. That's why we have to know what text books the children are being forced to read.

[@tomfullery9710]

CRT and African American History are two completely different topics. No one's trying to ban African American history. But some people ARE trying to sneak CRT into African American History courses where it doesn't belong.

[@DC-rd6oq]

Exactly. And then they cry foul when they get caught.

[@rriddick8571]

Not true. Have several seats. Geesh.

[@artseosamhogriobhta]

@@rriddick8571 Silence, anti-white.

[@ewartemersonyearwood3032]

I promise no one was demanding more information on intersectionality.

[@patriciamurray2494]

What is the BEST WAY TO TO NOTIFY THE COLLEGE BOARD THEY ARE MAKING THEMSELVES IRRELEVANT!

[@00billharris]

The entire relevance of CB depends upon their tests (SAT, etc) being used for college acceptance.

[@angiebaby9958]

Who asked for black queer to be taught in black history?

[@Dueveh]

I understand that African America History is some of the most heart wrenching history. I recently homeschooled my son and taught him about it. The abbolishinists Casius Clay was our personal favourite. He was sort of a African American fantasy revenge story on slave owners. It is a movie just waiting to be made. I also taught my son about communism. Every single time Marxism has been tried in the last 100 years it ended up as a living nightmere. 100s of million murdered and killed in the most horrific ways. The gulag archipelago is particularly disturbing. Every person ends up oppressed under a communist system. The answer to African America history which was horrific should not be another horrific part of history Marxism. It would be extremely tragic for African Americans to be freed from slavery only to be enslaved by a communist nightmere. Communism is actually a system where every race is oppressed equally so it would be tragic for every person.

[@s.tiaira9081]

I love Kimberlee Crenshaw! I hope to study under her one day 🤗

[@666ojeez]

🤣

[@s.tiaira9081]

@@666ojeez what is so funny?

[@MrMiguelForster]

"I hope to be brainwashed someday 😛😛😛😛😛😛" You fckn clowns 🤣🤣

[@pretzelandmustard]

I would love that too 🤗 I would love the opportunity to have an impromptu debate/conversation with this woman in front of others, since she doesn't readily volunteer to defend her positions and theories in light of overwhelming criticism. This interviewer threw her softballs; either because she also simps or was just underprepared. In my opinion, Crenshaw doesn't have a logical or rational leg to stand on while she also has the privilege to teach and thrive in such a wonderful country as ours. I would love for her to tell me how her theory of intersectionality worked out for her. It would seem to me that no one was holding her back, even in her ability to propagate brain-dead circular logic theories.

[@Swodie_Jeetin]

No one is going to give you the education you need to overthrow them

[@AndreEth777]

REVERSE CRT....NOT FOR CURRICULUMS...PUT IN LIBRARY OR BEST SELLERS LIST?. NOT FORCED IN SCHOOLS

[@phillybulphillybul4319]

African American is two different continents.. no recognition

[@gavrielayashraalah531]

We "INDIGENOUS, BLACK AMERICANS should stop paying taxes as one whole collective & just put "EXEMPT" on our tax forms since we are a "PEOPLE WITHOUT A COUNTRY" & we have "TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION."

[@davidatkinson5858]

Yeah but that means no more government subsidized checks or grants👍😐

[@jamberry8026]

@@davidatkinson5858 Most of that is going to white people anyway.

[@jamberry8026]

@@dayvision9742 Your bigotry is so infantile. What is the Black agenda?

[@beverlydixon6556]

SOUNDS RITE TO ME

[@gavrielayashraalah531]

@@davidatkinson5858 Those who are of the oppressor class are on Indigenous/Black American lands and need to pay out of the ass simply for occupying our land here in the Americas. You had better get your mind right!

[@tomfullery9710]

For anyone who wants to learn about CRT, Ryan Chapman did a great video covering the topic. I highly recommend it.

[@andrewedris2800]

Yes, Ryan Chapman does a nice job. Unfortunately neither sides of the debate is interested in facts or historicity. It's all about seeding their political agenda into the K-12 US history curriculum.

[@michaeldy3157]

Total marxist critical class theory with a new name. It is very racist too.

[@Originalking]

CRT isn’t real. No one can give you a definition by sentence. Everyone seems to need thirty minutes to babble. Right and left use “woke” so that should tell you something, they come together on anything anti black.

[@jocksharerock7318]

Tom Fullery That dude has no business talking about Critical Race Theory without scholars. I could barely make it in to three minutes before realizing another online blowhard is trying to make a buck

[@jocksharerock7318]

@@andrewedris2800 it’s not a part of the K-12 curriculum anywhere in the US. Tell me where if you think you have a case?

[@tonibates5341]

If the students and ALL people hit these racist decisions in their pockets, things will change. The kids need to not register for ALL history classes or sit out period for change. And that’s with everything stop buying, stop doing until change happens. That what the bus boycott did. Money=change

[@yoidkldk]

DeSantis instead of worrying about critical race Theory why don't you concern yourself on the raising of Florida's testing scores in mathematics and reading?

[@tomr7222]

exactly! teach math not woke hate!

[@Lp78Ch]

As a teacher, I can include African-American contributions to our collective culture without resorting to politicization and other garbage in CRT. The AP curriculum was garbage. Simple as that. Garbage.

[@qjtvaddict]

Change the name

[@Alexa-uk8lj]

But you probably won’t if you already aren’t. And history is more than “contributions” as you already since downstream effects are taught regarding the every other history lesson.

[@supaspydamn]

I'm just🤦🏾

[@lawbanger4yahlawbanger4yah33]

You shouldn't of done if you weren't guilty?

[@Roberto-Antonio]

I've never seen a Black History book, so I don't know what exactly is being taught. I don't believe this Nation needs individual group studies, what needs to be done is the rewriting of American History Books to reflect an All Inclusive Truth that is both positive and negative for All Groups. No more Founding Father stories, a term offensive to the original people of this Country.

[@samueljayrivera2280]

How about Asians? The indigenous Americans ? I mean it’s not all about black Americans.

[@sistahb5159]

Then why don't you fight to have Queer Theory & BLM (a Trojan horse that exploited the deaths of heterosexual Black men for Black LGBT, illegal & legal non-Black immigration) added to AP Asian American History & AP Native American History & AP Hispanic American History??? So you want to be attacked too??? Because that is what happened. AP Black American History was attacked & hijacked to push the agenda of other groups, NOT American Descendants of Slavery. You sound hateful, jealous-hearted & foolish.🙄

[@samueljayrivera2280]

@@sistahb5159 no the arrogance of these people that only African Americans are only recognised. If only they show the true story of African Americans that their own people sold them to Europe and exported them to America.

[@sistahb5159]

Arrogance personified on your part. First of all, why are no sticking your nose in American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) business to begin with??? Second, where is the American history of your people being attacked in Florida??? Third, you didn't answer the question. Why aren't people trying to put Queer Theory in AP Hispanic American History, AP Native American History, & AP Asian American History???

[@kennymac318]

How can you take out something that effected us, mentally, socially, financially? Slavery was a real thing wtf?

[@annmhmoore0771]

How has it affected you negatively? Do tell us all... Where the rest of the world black population proclaims and their perception is that African Americans are the most privileged black people on earth..... because they are the ones who are living in real poverty, staving, no food, water, housing, electricity, jobs, just imagine what your life could have been if your ancestors were never enslaved. They would be asking why they couldn't have been as lucky to be an African American today because they would appreciate the freedom that the ones in America today don't appreciate....

[@kennymac318]

@@annmhmoore0771 that’s bs, and it’s people like you that’s part of this white washing problem. Our ancestors ruled the lands before some of their own chief sold their soul and their people to devils. My ancestors was from America before English and Spanish settlers even stole this country. If that never happened this government would of never existed.

[@Nastydealerr]

American history is black history in the United States make it make sense people who/what would we teach about if black history isn't talked about in America history 🤔?

[@winstonsmith6607]

When did Democracy Now become exactly the same as MSNBC?

[@Happy-uy5wc]

Regarding, Democracy Now = MSMBC Is that a complement or an insult?

[@donlleyo11]

@@Happy-uy5wc obviously not a compliment. Rightfully so…

[@zombiehampster1397]

Well good news for you, is that DN isn't anything like MSNBC. You're welcome.

[@winstonsmith6607]

@@Happy-uy5wc DM used to speak truth to power and they were harder on democrats than they were on Republicans. Now they're acting like shills for the democrats (just like MSNBC)

[@Alexa-uk8lj]

When you started only watching the videos that made it feel that way to you

[@cowsandpigsmaketheearthwar1471]

LOVE YOU AMY DEATHSANTIS LACKS EDUCATIONAL VALUE COWSANDPIGSMAKETHEEARTHWARM

[@cxa011500]

When are you going to have Kemi Badenoch on?

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

RepuIsíveIy, most Democrats respond to the NeøDaugh†ers of the NeøConƒederaçy, by saying, _"CRT isn't taught to children,"_ rather than arguing that it *_should_* be. History should be taught honestly at *_every_* level.

[@artseosamhogriobhta]

Silence, anti-white.

[@noeltaylor3594]

The Confederates don't want it taught.

[@noeltaylor3594]

@homo sexual feminine mal6 whistleblower confession I do not understand your response.

[@digitalxrealism]

Amy, as a person of color I would love to be on your show to discuss the dangers of CRT and other woke ideologies. We cannot allow this to taught to our children.

[@Nastydealerr]

Well we're black and not a person of color because when we we're in slave it wasn't person of color with us so save the çode switching clown

[@TheParadox_]

_“…I would love to be on your show to discuss the dangers of CRT and other woke ideologies.”_ -This comment alone renders you an uncredible candidate.

[@digitalxrealism]

@@TheParadox_ you a white person or POC?

[@TheParadox_]

@@digitalxrealism Irrelevant

[@Robert-ty3qi]

CRT shouldn't be forced on anyone, if you want to study it, you can

[@qjtvaddict]

That’s not what the right wing trash want

[@rriddick8571]

It is not forced on anyone!!! It is taught at college level period.

[@Robert-ty3qi]

@@rriddick8571 not true

[@MrCarloszeca]

@@Robert-ty3qi You have to listen again since the start. The COLLEGE BOARD.

[@Robert-ty3qi]

@@MrCarloszeca that designs courses for high school seniors, and don't kid yourself, it's being taught in elementary schools as well

[@stephencorsaro954]

Gerald Horne.

[@andrjsh]

I argue that everyone is "a little racist," that is, human beings are reflexively suspicious and guarded around those who are markedly physically different. If a person in a wheelchair or with a white-tipped cane comes into a room, the able-bodied will become tense & anxious. This is also the unspoken premise of zombie movies (in "Night of the Living Dead," the hero is a black man) & any film featuring an invasion from outer space; suddenly, everyone joins together to fight the enemy.

[@ryanfinnerty6239]

I agree; though you may simplify this to "you fear what you don't know" and that fear manifests to impulses. Anti-racism must be taught and encouraged by diverse integrated school/regions/workplaces/unions

[@andrjsh]

@@ryanfinnerty6239 Thank you for the reply. I would say that proximity and familiarity would do more than lesson plans, because (a) people very often trust their experiences and intuitions more than the voice of authority and (b) antiracism as currently imagined plants ideas of conflict, power dynamics, and resentment into minds that do not have the life experience to digest and assess what is being told to them.

[@francesknight2614]

Ask Mr. DeSantis to give clear reasons why he has decided that banning the critical race theory is not relevant. Bet he can't come with up with one.

[@aarondover2975]

Queer theory was mentioned

[@mrs.lilianfetters1432]

Marxism

[@DC-rd6oq]

I don't think you know what CRT is. if you did you'd know why he doesn't want it taught. it's way too complicated for a KZbin comment, but it's a Marxist framework for "revolution" but instead of class it's about race. It pits blacks against "whites", with "white" being defined as anyone who is actually white or who behaves as if they are white. it says integration was wrong, colorblindness is wrong, and objective thought is wrong. Everything is subjective and must be seen through their eyes, otherwise you must be "white". it is an activist political agenda. Of course it is much more complicated than this. if you want to learn about it, read Crenshaw's book. Just don't drink the kool-aid while reading.

[@MrSophire]

The books are racist, and tries to make everything black and white. There are no good guy and bad guys in history.

[@artseosamhogriobhta]

I mean, your reasoning for why it should be included is that it "would be nice". You're a dummy lmao

[@verdellmcdonald2392]

GOD HELP US!!!! Isaiah 5:20 United States is a great country. For those who don't like it why don't they leave and show us where it's better. Please wake up and see the light. This is not about equality. This is about destroying the United States. And once that has happened then people will begin to realize how good we had it

[@gastonneal724]

They say she writes children books too❤❤❤

[@dazzle1545]

So another one sided report on this issue. Why are you afraid to give a conservative equal time?

[@CHIEF_420]

🐵

[@dazzle1545]

@gatherington You ignored my post, let a conservative have equal time

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

A lot of white supremacists say that.

[@abby-usivemonopoly5529]

Pretending that "equality" means allowing two political parties to reach their grubby little paws into the curriculum that students are taught, doesn't even begin to address most people's _political beliefs,_ let alone does it contribute *_anything, whatsoever, to objective historical fact._*

[@dazzle1545]

@@abby-usivemonopoly5529 Most Supremacist are black Supremacists like her

[@corneilusmcgillicuddy]

Fuck is "queer theory?" Shit sounds like some sort of complex mathematical equation that would unlock the secret to sending a man to Mars and then returning him safely to the earth.

[@erikthueson2691]

I didn’t learn anything about CRT or intersectionality et. al. Just Ms. Crenshaw telling us we must assume it is right and true and everyone who is critical of it or have questions about it are bad, false and racist. I’d be more interest in what her theory is and some questions making her defend it. PS I’ve tried to read the source books, but quite frankly, they were difficult to understand, making it difficult to follow the logic.

[@mattpierce1011]

Intersectionality is an analytical framework for understanding how aspects of a person's social and political identities combine to create different modes of discrimination and privilege.

[@andrewedris2800]

She isn't a historian, she is more a legal policy "expert". Not sure what standing she has to be included as a source for a History course.

[@Alexa-uk8lj]

Well this interview wasn’t a class so why did you expect to learn about it here? Also, it’s not that difficult to find resources and explanations. It’s a college-level legal study.

[@deskryptic]

She kept her head cool and gives us the long perspective. Thank you Auntie.

[@michaelpcoffee]

Government has no right to discriminate based on race. That includes government schools. If you want to teach militant racial chauvinism; you'll have to do it outside government institutions and without government agents.

[@zapatasghost]

"militant racial chauvinism" huh...ahistorical foolishness.

[@michaelpcoffee]

@@zapatasghost Vacuous dismissal noted and reciprocated.

[@zapatasghost]

@@michaelpcoffee I'm lovin' your vocabulary..."vacuous" nice. You do know what ahistorical means right?

[@michaelpcoffee]

@@zapatasghost Yep. Do you know what militant racial chauvinism is?

[@zapatasghost]

@@michaelpcoffee Nope, because I'm pretty sure you made it up

[@user-ou8qk6mo3y]

every black church should teach CRT to everyone.

[@byrolyn8182]

YOU MUST EDUCATE YOURSELVES AND YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT THE RICH AFRICAN HISTORY.

[@michaeld2716]

We should study KJV Genesis Chapter 9.

[@bernadettesparks7684]

But it's alright to teach and protest hate messages to young children smh.

[@sherry6919]

Can the un altered edition of the “AP African American History” by citizens so that WE AS PARENTS can PROVIDE the truth and full history to our children and ourselves! “After all isn’t that’s what DeSantis is running on is his passed law or the PARENTAL rights on the curriculum OUR children are taught!”

[@22221mm]

Who is our? The state he governs has large Black and Latinx communities of parents. Tjey eant their history taught. What youre saying is white patents today just like their parents and grandparents should be able to decide to not learn about Black history, should be able to decide not send their kids to school with Black kids.

[@landon1891]

Many people that are upset and offended by these decisions are the same people that demanded to pretty much erase parts of HISTORY. Demanded statues to be torn down, demanded to change the names of schools, streets, sports teams. maybe we should examine the curriculum and make sure all past presidents names are not mentioned. HISTORY cannot be changed and we should be reminded of history and teach our children to not repeat the same mistakes.

[@BronzeSista]

@@22221mm you hiding behind a fake channel 😒 Be brave tell us who you really are.

[@22221mm]

@@BronzeSista not fake at all, Bronze woman, just not using my legal name. Looks like you relate, @Bronze woman? 😉

[@lynns4426]

I think children are smarter and more compassionate than their parents. Parents' refusal to let their children learn without censorship only breeds misunderstanding and bigotry. Most families from minority groups do teach their history at home. So those children are often more well-rounded.

[@lemonfish8791]

FBA 🏹✊🏿stories by their elders are more precious than HISTORY WRITTEN BS by RACIST AUTHORS.. And yet the most interesting Stories ARE about RACISTs and THEIR UNDERPINNING EXISTENCE.☝🏿💯

[@jaymill3832]

Queer theory?

[@Magmafire]

That was a glowing introduction, and well deserved.

[@jocelyngardner5711]

What about Reparations? If you want to argue about teaching slavery and poor treatment of aboriginal melanin Americans give them reparations and people will take you serious. Stop using Aborigine Americans people to fight Republican during elections. It’s not fair!

[@udogg111]

Queer studies is not African-American history

[@CHIEF_420]

🐵

[@judydoucette8762]

They don't want to do things correctly. But I pray that our heavenly Father will break them until they bow!💧

[@carolynedwards-philpotts3181]

Yes indeed, He will, i believe his DOCTRINES, THAT ARE IN THE BOOK.

[@carolynedwards-philpotts3181]

@Day Vision Absolutely.

[@deannealbrecht774]

Ron DeSantis proved the theory that CRT proposes is in fact true.

[@byrolyn8182]

BECAUSE I AM A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN, I HAD TO FORGIVE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MISTREATED HER AND THE REST OF MY FAMILY. CHRIST SAYS THAT YOU MUST FORGIVE 70 TIMES 70. I AM NO LONGER ANGRY AT THEM. WHEN I GET MY DNA RESULTS BACK, I DON'T KNOW HOW I WILL FEEL. I AM ALSO NATIVE AMERICAN ON BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY. NATIVE AMERICANS ARRIVED FROM AFRICA THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO BEFORE COLUMBUS DISCOVERED MY RELATIVES. ONLY 2 NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES HAD SLAVES. THE REST OF THE TRIBE THOUGHT IT WAS SAVAGE, EVIL AND BARBARIC.

[@alexiswhittier7119]

Queer studies should not be forced on me if I wanted to learn more about African American History...it should not be intermingled.

[@michaelpcoffee]

CRT obviates the need for any thought, word or act of racism as proof of their presumed verdict. All they need is their preferred race measuring less favorably than another. Regardless of the cause: they declare their favored race to be victims of the other. Then they would use real government enforced discrimination in response to their presumed discrimination; altering laws, policies and practices to favor their preferred race. All for the stated purpose of forcibly making the measurements between races identical. The operative question is whether you support using government force to implement racial discrimination. All the rest is academic. My answer is no.

[@alhazed]

Its funny how its all CRT when focused on helping Black people, its been imported here to the UK too. Interestingly, us Romany Gypsies (who are White) are the bottom of the barrel statistically across the board over here, yet it's still only focused on issues Black people face, which makes me think its actually just racism by another name.

[@alhazed]

@gatherington well I would agree with you, but if you think the modern left are not actually critical to White cultures or indeed focused solely on Black issues them think again. I'll repeat, in the Uk it's gypsies that are the statistically the most downtrodden, yet the left here only focus on CRT issues that face Black people, that's just a fact. If they were genuine, then over here it would be Gypsy Lives Matter.. but it's not. Because it is intended to be racially divisive..I wish it wasn't, but it is..and look at the flagships of these movements, BLM, talk about take the money and run. The people of the left today need to wake up and think about structural issues that affect everyone, not divide people into racial groups whilst professing that it's those imagined divisions that are the issue. The irony is overwhelming.

[@alhazed]

@gatherington Yea that might be true. But I'm not so conspiratorial. I think there's an aspect of the wealthy that definitely use it to their advantage and others that are opposed. And it has created new wealth (like the BLM scandal) that now has an influence. In the end, however people get power they almost always spend their time trying to keep or grow that power..and rarely look to actually create meaningful change for people. But in my opinion, even when CRT was nowhere, it is still rooted in bigotry and division, by it's very assumptions.

[@alhazed]

@gatherington well I agree, but I just don't think it was imported because of the rich and powerful..it's just become a way for some rich and powerful to co-opt it and use it for profit. But not all factions are rich and powerful, but can become so because of co-opting movements..like the BLM founders.

[@alhazed]

@gatherington Oh for sure, it's not particularly a threat anymore. Maybe some thought it might be during the BLM riots, so they began to absorb them. Give them money, let them throw down a few statues, then when they start to feel comfortable and powerful, then threaten to take it all away. Them all of a sudden, they became strangely quiet and less aligned with their initial base.

[@mattpierce1011]

Ms Crenshaw coined the term 'intersectionality', which is an analytical framework for understanding how aspects of a person's social and political identities combine to create different modes of discrimination and privilege.

[@geangarcia2673]

Interesting

[@sedgwickmcalaster7785]

WE KILL by inaction

[@yoidkldk]

Does DeSantis have the authority to make these statements and claims or does he have a group of individuals who are knowledgeable have the appropriate designations to make the claims that this is not educationally relevant and merited? This is censorship of the American education system which isn't that good to begin with sadly.

[@phillipnevels1598]

Where in all this discussion is the subject of rampant crime and violence in the large inter cities brought up. Oh, that is ill relevant to the discussion!!!!

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Can you imagine the consequences of "critical architectural theory" or "critical aeronautical theory"?

[@mistertruth8001]

REPARATIONS AND RESTITUTION FOR BLACK AMERICANS IS THE REAL AND TRUE STIMULUS PACKAGE THAT AMERICA DESPERATELY NEEDS!

[@shovelhead2155]

What about the people who are both descendants of Slaves and slave owners. Or people who came after the fact. What about Irish, Italian, Chinese, Native. They don't matter right?

[@howardmctroy3303]

They've already received it.

[@RJL612]

I agree!!! Anyone that has ever been a slave should be compensated. If you have never been one...kick rocks.

[@andrewedris2800]

Reparations is a hypothetical policy recommendation, and since it never happened it's excluded as history.

[@margaretnorvell9555]

I hope we agree that if reparations become law, affirmative action in hiring and education, along with other affirmative programs, will stop.

[@Aalisrocklist]

.... it seems that desantis has not realized that Florida gave birth to LatCrit...

[@Rick_Riff]

Problem with BLM is that it's too specific. Police brutality can be a problem for any citizen, regardless of race. I'm white and I've been beaten and mistreated by the police several times. The movement needs to be more inclusive because the problem effects all races. I think it could become huge and wield more power with a general approach.

[@julia-ms6jo]

Police brutality is a problem for everyone but BLM exists because black people are disproportionately affected by it.

[@Rick_Riff]

@@julia-ms6jo stats say more white people are killed by cops. It's a problem for everyone, no point making the movement smaller by discluding the most common form of police brutality because of the victims race.

[@Pasta-B1FBA]

2006-2021

[@FASBLAQUE]

Don't feed the trolls! They're trolling real deep up in here saying real dumb stuff. From talking about their false religions to false statistics. OMG