Marc Lamont Hill Debates Parent Objecting to How Race is Taught in School

“Black News Tonight” reported on a decision by the Westfield School District in New Jersey to place a high school American studies course on hold.
The reason was that the curriculum includes novelist Toni Morrison’s “The Bluest Eye.” On Nov. 24, Marc Lamont Hill spoke to local reporter Matt Kadosh and asked him why the push back against this particular book, and if there was more to the picture that people don’t know about.
Author Brad Schaeffer, who is a parent of a Westfield student, joins Hill on “Black News Tonight” to discuss why he’s against the way race is being taught.
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[@jameslevi3155]

Brad is a monster. This conversation was like debating with a preschooler that vegetables they refuse to eat aren’t healthy.

[@He-MemeMan]

Bullshit, we don't have to give a damn about how you feel about the past.

[@bam357]

The fact that people lump Booker T Washington in with Candace Owens is a huge problem.

[@HansKeesom]

It is no problem at all, people are free to state their opinion and ideas. It is up to you to make a counterargument if you disagree. It is intellectually lazy if you just call things a problem without stating why. You are not going to change anyones mind that way

[@HansKeesom]

@doogeehowser simple, because they have an opionion about that opinion, that is what we call debate. Look it up, it is something from long time ago...

[@HansKeesom]

@doogeehowser It is more like we have different definitions of "free". Yours seems like "I tell and you listen", mine strives to have a debate with all parties. Yess, even with KKK kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYPTZKRnhMaYsNk

[@HansKeesom]

@doogeehowser I notice that you are not listening, so I will stop talking now.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@doogeehowser What has Candice Owens said that bothers you so much?

[@tatadosu2093]

The pushback is NO ONE wants their children to be treated like we have but they refuse to be truthful about their involvement in the matter

[@Eragon1962]

Involvement my ass. Put down your crutch and work hard.

[@jip216]

@Tatu Dosu EXACTLY!!

[@tatadosu2093]

@@Eragon1962 lol crutch?? Explain??Because I have a successful practice here in California…… what does this have to do with anything I wrote??

[@taupsi4]

@Death Rattle , hard workers were lynched too. Now what? Tell the truth.

[@CarlNipmuc]

@@Eragon1962 Slavery is over

[@primeexample]

Brad really did a" all authors matters" argument on a discussion about racism. You can't make this up

[@beigefox6579]

One moment Brad is like it shouldn't be taught, next minute he's like it isn't balanced on how its taught and some things are missing... I'm like can you pick one 🤦‍♂️

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@beigefox6579 You mean the one moment I was talking about a story for five-year-olds that preached one race invented racism, and the next moment when I was discussing a 14-book reading list for an upper classman high school class that lacked balance? Yep. And...? You didn't even pay attention did you. (Eye roll)

[@rell127]

Sounds about ⚪ doesn't it?

[@MrEJF02]

He wants some c. ** ns added in. 😆 🤣

[@jj51424]

@@bradschaeffer5736 I wonder if you'd take the same approach as it applies to how the history of the holocaust and anti semitism is taught in schools, Nr.Scharffer.

[@KevinGloverpost24]

-I’m not here to defend horrific actions…. * proceeds to defend horrific actions

[@bradschaeffer5736]

I did? What horrific actions did I defend? I'll wait.

[@KevinGloverpost24]

@@bradschaeffer5736 you are right you didn’t defend so I will apologize for my reaction HOWEVER you low key tried some whataboutisms when you referred to what the Japanese were doing. That had nothing to do with the question.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@KevinGloverpost24 He asked me if I believed the claim of this children’s book that Whites “made up an idea called race.” I merely offered right off the top of my head an example of how another race, Japanese (who considered themselves a race as much as nationality) brutalized Chinese and Filipinos because they saw them as an inferior race. QED. Plus Marc is wrong about the Caste system. It is very much about race hierarchy. I brought it up for a reason. So herein shows that race is not solely the construct of one race but a sad part of human history. All human history. A book like that does nothing but keep it going. Apology accepted and thank you for that.

[@greenandrew5378]

typical white response..

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@greenandrew5378 Another intellect weighing in. Not sure what a "white response" even means...other than you are clearly a racist. How proud you must be.

[@nyebots]

Omg! This guy.... you can't have an honest conversation with some that's intellectually dishonest. This dude want a conservative view on race?

[@SunnyandNova]

Which is being racist for the most part

[@bryansiphomartin7462]

I know it's so frustrating. I'm wondering, how is teaching about racism or decrying racism a 'left-of-center' position?

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@SunnyandNova Tell me what I said that is "racist"? (That word is so overused by people like you at this point it has lost all meaning and is just met with eye-rolls by those not paralyzed by wokeness)

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@bryansiphomartin7462 A left-of-center position puts the primary blame for the underperformance of the black community on the heads of the white "racist system". A right-of-center view offers that the fact that 3:4 black babies are born into fatherless homes, or that the welfare state enervates and creates unmotivated wards of the state rather than driven citizenry, or that public schools have become union-controlled jobs programs that pump out functional illiterates mostly in the minority neighborhoods for a decade may all have more to do with why so many blacks are left behind than "white supremacists" and "the impacts of slavery". Get it?

[@emmat3531]

The guest undermined his point by saying he didn't read some of the books or hadn't read them in a long time. Our perspectives often shift, and we gain new insights when we read books more than once. If you're going to go after curriculum, it's best to take an academic approach and READ.

[@HansKeesom]

There is no need to read all these books completely, Reading some and seeing the names of the authors and the titles is enough to conclude the list is unbalanced and a lot of other views are missing. Everyone has some books he/she did not read or does not know each and every line of. It is a cheap trick of Marc to attack people on details and cause a riot. It is unproductive and does not help to improve the world.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

So if I present you with a syllabus that just has Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas you would not be able to comment on its ideological leaning because you haven't read cover to cover every one? Is that your argument? Because that is MLH's. By that right, then you have no right to ever say anything about Sowell until you have read all 50 of his books (there might be one in there that supports CRT after all, I mean how do you know if you haven't read them all right?) or read every one of Clarence Thomas' opinions as well as his autobiography. So, go lock yourself in a room and read everything these two have written or shut up. That's your position?

[@RAPXILLA]

The problem isn’t that you didn’t read it all. It’s that you couldn’t come up with an example from any of the books that was racist. And yes the concept of race as we know it in America was made by Europeans. Before that there were black skinned Roman emperors. The word race is literally a European word. The Japanese and the Chinese to most people are the same race just different nationalities and ethnicity.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@RAPXILLA The Japanese considered themselves a different race than the Chinese. Not just nationality. As did the Germans when they invaded Russia. The phrase "Untermenschen" means those they considered racially and socially inferior. Race is a universal construct. This is such an inanely semantic argument that splits hairs to defy common sense. (And I assure you, MLH saw me as a white man more than I did he as a Black man). BTW You don't think when blacks in Africa first laid eyes on Europeans they didn't see them as a different race?

[@HansKeesom]

@@RAPXILLA The racism in China and Japan was just as bad and so were the consequences. Were they different in detail? Yes Did it have a different name? Sure But these are just details, the mechanism is basicly the same, one group treating another group as less purely based on not relevant characteristics. Stop putting people in groups, stop think in they and us, learn from history it has had horrible consequences. So do not tell children they are (victim/quilty of) something based on the skincolor. Tell them should judge everyone on things that matter. Don't fight racism by introducing new racism.

[@bitsofgeek]

Brad retreats from “I’m not against teaching history” to “why do we have to be so divisive?” in record time.

[@tonytooshort]

Right lmaooo. Does he even realize he's contradicting himself? 🤔

[@nadianorman2274]

History will show you that racism wasn't introduced by white people. People are naturally divisive. They'll divide each other based on anything. It's not a problem solely of white people. You can't fix this problem any way you try. I'm sure you yourself are also a racist. How is a racist supposed to solve racism? Labeling white people as being innately racist is racist in itself. I'm black and I've experienced discrimination from EVERY race, including black people.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@tonytooshort Because teaching faux history is divisive. Another one who paid attention I see.

[@discernment8963]

@@nadianorman2274 👍Wish more truly got it. An awful lot REALIST's are being labeled racists, pathetic and hurtful across the board. Then they'll always be those who use it as an angle, their of prohibition with their version of "bootlegging" in order to monetize. Like MLH and other Sharpton U alums.... The RHI (Race Hustling Industry) has never thrived more.

[@bgreen5234]

@@nadianorman2274 who was it introduced by? Is there proof that racism wasn’t introduced by Europeans? People naturally are divisive? Please dive more into this because kids doesn’t seem to share those thoughts or actions. I need a credible source to prove anything you to said to be true or is it just all opinion based?

[@yostophatin]

Ima say this parents whole argument for him "we don't want our kids to learn history as it happened, we want it to be whitesplained so that future generations don't push back on the current system".

[@jip216]

EXACTLY

[@olnappy]

And, "they", don't want to be called out now on things, "they", are yet doing; that happens better so if melanated people forget about what was done by, "them", historically to melanated people based on the abject practiced racism of, "them". And Irish is still european.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

Nooo. We don't want leftist, revisionist, demonstrably false "history" taught. Would you be happy with your kids sitting in a class on race wherein the only books on the syllabus were by Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, etc. and the only articles allowed were featured in Breitbart, Daily Wire, The Blaze and National Review? If not why not? Afraid of history?

[@indatube]

That's not history@@bradschaeffer5736 that's white people attempting to focus on what they want how they want and disregard anything that goes against it. It has been happening for generations, the point is we're not listening to your bs anymore.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

No. That's history. Like it or not the country in which you currently live (although you are free to leave it at any time) was founded by white males. Sorry, that's not racism, that is just a fact. The majority of whom were NOT slaveholders (some like Franklin were vocal abolitionists even). Being taught about these men is not whitewashing history, any more than learning about Shakah Zulu is blackwashing Zulu history or the Tokugawas asianwashing Japanese history. . And I recall in the history classes I took learning about great women, great blacks, great Indian chiefs, great immigrants who did great things in this country. So I don't know what history class you took. I think you are looking for a fiction class. History doesn't work that way. . As for disregarding...here are a few things I was never taught in history class. Did you know that without the complicity and cooperation of African tribal chieftains the slave trade to the New World would have been pretty much impossible? Did you ever learn how guilty of perpetrating this African slave trade other Africans were? Of course not. Did you learn that Native Americans routinely raided other tribes, burning their village, slaughtering their men and boys and herding away their women into slavery? That they tortured and committed mass execution? That the great "horse culture of the plains" was only a thing because Europeans introduced the horse to North America? Did you learn about the Rape of Nanking? The brutality of the Sino-Japanese wars? In short, the myriad of sins committed by ALL races in ALL continents? Of course not. That might hurt feelings. . I couldn't care less if you're not listening anymore. You haven't for generations and the collapse of the black underclass is testament to that. So don't listen. Keep yourself down and blame others. All it does is give me one less person to compete with in this world. By all means, be the KKK's useful idiot.

[@kingchepellSEUM]

The System was never broken it was built this way.

[@dianenash1200]

Fact and now is time to tear it down and build back better🖤🇲🇦❤🇺🇲🏳️‍🌈😷

[@marohan]

Victimhood

[@elleMerci_bey]

This comment deserves a 1000 likes.

[@marohan]

@TOLD YA people like you never want to examine the culture on why some succeed n others don't. Easier to blame n blame systems n not look into that mirror.

[@marohan]

@TOLD YA when will he tell black youth to emulate what he did vs what his drug dealing brother did. That intact families vs white supremacy trumps everything in life in general. Keep waiting. Bnc makes money of grievance not solutions. Hence victimhood.

[@d1ff3r4nc3]

“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ― George Orwell and "The first casualty of war is truth." Good debate! Thanks!

[@ericmarentette]

Brad seemed ok at first, quickly and violently shifted into typical talking points and brain dead thinking. Nice job again, Marc.

[@7979311]

The devil will eventually show it self

[@ask_why000]

Off the pedestal with white history!

[@indatube]

@Josh Bagdon yes it's brain dead to think white people need to continue pushing their white centric narrative or "conservative" "right-wing" which literally seeks to conserve the white dominant status quo. It doesn't matter if it's said by a grifter like Candace Owens who is paid and given platform specifically because she unabashedly does white people's work for them while having a black face and white husband. Just like Kamala Harris, picked by white Biden to be a black supporter on his ticket. Yes, it's brain dead. We don't need to hear that side. White people aren't used to being sidelined or not getting the ability to approve the way history or the way the world works. It's not "narrow minded" just because you say it is or because we are disregarding the views favored by white people. And for your straw man of "what if all right wing teachers..." Bs all you have to do is go back to before things shifted away from purely right wing teachings.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@indatube Now who sounds like someone regurgitating talking points.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

Can you be specific please?

[@KevinGloverpost24]

The thought of Candace Owens or Burgess Owens making children’s books is cringe material…. What is he talking about????

[@bradschaeffer5736]

You really thought I meant they should write a children's book? Really?

[@seanwjones07]

@@bradschaeffer5736 Yes since you just got done claiming their books are not being taught in schools lol. I don’t understand how anyone can take you seriously.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@seanwjones07 Make sense then come back to me.

[@seanwjones07]

@@bradschaeffer5736 What you can’t read now ? That makes more sense since you didn’t even read any of the books you were railing against. Hahaha! 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@KevinGloverpost24]

@@bradschaeffer5736 around 9:55 you mention that there are no “Right of center authors” then you say “There is no Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, No Booker T. Washington no Burgess Owens no Candace Owens” the latter two have no business being listed with the first 3 on any list in regards to writing books. So yeah no Burgess Owens No Candace Owens I don’t want even want Terell Owens writing a children’s book on race. 😆

[@jeffgray4075]

This guy is just obfuscating. It was not Black Americans with "Irish need not apply" signs. He throws in Japan, as though the conversation isn't about a history of the united States.

[@gjh9299]

he def seems to really have an issue with Asia.

[@kellyjay7448]

Call it a deflection or a false equivalency, this guy has no justification for his point of view. It's pure denialism about the racism that runs thru American history.

[@j2a2m]

Try to listen. THE POINT he made was Japanese used racist terms for whites BEFORE America existed, so race was not invented by white Americans. Implying otherwise in a book for children is outrageously racist and destructive.

[@timberrr1126]

@@j2a2m James has it accurately. Brad was proving racism existed before America was founded. I vaguely remember the ancient Egyptians had racism too. .

[@timberrr1126]

@@j2a2m James has it accurately. Brad was proving racism existed before America was founded. I vaguely remember the ancient Egyptians had racism too.

[@j.baldwinwasagenius...7575]

It's so funny listening to the guest speak because everything he's opposed being discussed is true. He just doesn't want history taught. He says he wants it taught but that's clearly false.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

You mean it's YOUR truth. If you understood anything about the history of countries other than your own you would know that.

[@stanlearner5102]

I empower myself by lying but if you point out that I am lying you are being divisive.

[@Thepessimest]

So this guys issue is that he wants black faces included to dismiss the issue of racism in this country for his selfish purposes. And he hasn’t even read the books he’s disagreeing with. Unreal😂😂😂😂

[@miikojackson3528]

IT'S ALL ABOUT MARXISM WITH A BOW!!!! Do your research!!

[@jamberry8026]

@@miikojackson3528 If it's Marxism, your broke ass has not one thing to worry about. You will never be anything more than a trick for the elite!

[@V12_smoke]

Right. If he wants kids reading a book written by Candice Owens, you know this guy is simple minded.

[@Thepessimest]

@@V12_smoke my thing is if that’s his desire say it. Don’t sit on that forum without knowing what is in books he’s trying to critique. These individuals like this offer no honest critique of what they disagree with. They simply want to deny the evidence of historical implications of racism and then create barriers to honestly discussing it.

[@alyciacooper2]

Yet very real. It’s the classic definition of white privilege on full display.

[@mikeskew01]

The problem with bringing up Candace Owens is because she is not a learned expert on history or any topic that would rate a book written by her being included in an educational course. Thomas Sowell is a trained economist, not a historian and Clarence Thomas doesn't show any interest in persuing this line of instruction. Brad, of course his name is Brad, says he wants authors that talk about pulling up one by their own bootstraps. That is such an insult because as a liberal I also believe in self-determination and doing everything to excel. Marc has a damned PhD and is a university professor while Candace is a college dropout whose only real job is bad-mouthing Black people. Dude's sheet is definitely showing.

[@jonwhitehead5426]

Exactly. Well said. I was thinking the same thing. Owens is a conservative shill, grifter, and not a serious thinker. I'm not familiar enough with Sowell to comment on whether he could be included (it would depend on the synthesis question the course comes up with). The course should most likely Booker T. Washington, and Zora Neale Hurston had conservative ideals. I, too, agree, as a liberal, that "self-determination and doing everything to excel" is a quality value. I doubt, though, Brad would agree that both this value and systemic racism coexists.

[@smallaxe4935]

You and this interviewer are unfortunately like alot of black folks these days. I was married to a black woman for about 6 years. You all have some anecdotal experience with racist white people, and you've simultaneously felt left out of the white privilege party your whole lives. Now you are in total victim mode, where if someone forgets to shake your hand at a business meeting you automatically go to "RACIST WHITE GUY HATES ME FOR BEING BLACK". You are in a negative state of mind that will get you nowhere in life. Remember, if you want to be an engineer, you have to do the work. It's that simple. Society will never reorder itself just to make you feel better. I suggest therapy

[@mikeaskme3530]

@@smallaxe4935 do you think because you were married to a black woman for 6 years, it gives you some incite to "black" American experiences. News flash I was married to a "white" woman for 15 years and there were times when her Uncles and Brothers would say racist things to me out of her presence overtly and covertly that I would not tell her or make a big deal about, and I am willing to bet your "black" wife did the same things. Not because it did not brother her, but because she loved you and did not want to come in-between you and your friends or family.

[@smallaxe4935]

@@mikeaskme3530 That's some black privilege to be able to tell a white man he can't have SOME incite into black American experience after being married to a black woman for 6 years. To answer your question, yes, I do feel it gives me some incite. I was also made to feel uncomfortable by my ex and her family on multiple occasions. I was constantly reminded by them of how "white" I was for not knowing a certain song by such and such artist, or for the goofy way I dance, the list goes on. It goes both ways my friend. The difference is that us whites take it on the chin and don't whine every time a black person insults us purposefully or accidentally. You need to work on the pain around your anecdotal experiences with race, and move past it. I started losing my hair in my early 20's. I was rejected by a number of women specifically because of my hair. Did I write off all women as shallow because of this? No. I moved on from the pain and continued to give everyone a chance without judgement. You're too sensitive bro, stand up like you got a pair.

[@greganderson6849]

@@smallaxe4935 Your moniker is fitting. Small Axe, small mind,.....and to extrapolate, that is UNDOUBTEDLY basis for why your marriage didn't last long.

[@Antonioplus]

"You know why I have a show? Because I know things!" 💀💀💀 Bodied.

[@U_neekliss]

🤔But I thought we were oppressed ?? So knowing things and working hard actually CAN get us somewhere?

[@Antonioplus]

@@U_neekliss Not sure anyone ever stated otherwise... Definitely not Marc Lamont Hill. But you already knew that

[@alr945]

The parent was misinformed and revealed his true agenda. When cornered, he showed that he didn't have facts and that showed his white privilege. Imagine how he felt losing an argument to a black man. Would have loved to have heard his rant after the cameras were turned off.

[@mamabear71234]

what's the matter? are you afraid blacks are wrong? they are. pluck the log out of your own eye so you can see correctly to judge others. you got that hate. just like Marc does.

[@SavoyinHarmony]

Be careful of those that present themselves as progress but get tense when issues of race come up.

[@lady4real75]

I agree. It is what it is! This country was by design to black & Native Americans. I guess we should not teach about slavery or the trail of tears.

[@jamberry8026]

Right!

[@MrWhiskeycricket]

They get tense only when they are told all of their opinions are invalid because they are white - this is a NEW problem. I'm black and went to school in the 80s, and went to a 60% black high school in the deep south. No one had a problem with talking to white kids about race - teasing them in a fun way (and vice versa) and talking about racism and politics. This entire idea that you tell a white person "What I say counts, shut up" is not how we used to talk about these issues. That entire way of talking is not helping - especially in progressive circles, with people who are supposed to be on our side.

[@Dawn23244]

@@MrWhiskeycricket Seriously, this guy literally did not allow Marc to talk, referenced books he hadn't read, and intentionally sidetracked any attempt at serious debate. Disingenuous at best. American history has whitewashed the brutality upon which this nation was built by controlling the narrative from its inception. All that aside, guy was just rude.

[@MrWhiskeycricket]

@@Dawn23244 Sorry, but no. Marc was trying to dominate the discussion with his education, while not engaging with this guys concerns. Instead of trying to PERSUADE him, he focused on this guy not reading a book. He didn't engage with the specific points, or specific concepts. because he already dismissed this guy before the conversation even started. Personally, I thought they BOTH were wrong about almost everything.

[@DanteNero1]

Mark please you are intellectually running circles around these pricks thank you for not letting this dude filibusters thank you

[@DoubleL.]

Marc said white people invented race which is one of the most unintelligent things I’ve heard on this show

[@jademoni3622]

@@DoubleL. Then who did? Race as a social contruct was created by Carl Linnaeus. A WHITE man from Sweden.

[@DoubleL.]

@@jademoni3622 How can someone ‘invent’ something biological though? Carl created the classification system we use for all living organisms, he didnt invent biological differences that different groups of people have. It’s just language to describe a reality. Not to mention, different “races” or “people of different ancestral regions”, if you don’t like that term, have been trying and failing to coexist long before the 1700’s.

[@jademoni3622]

@@DoubleL. Yet you fail to answer my question. Who created it? Carl Linnaeus created four groups of races white (Europeans), black (Africans), yellow (Asians) and red (Natives).

[@DoubleL.]

@@jademoni3622 I did answer your question….you chose to ignore my question to you. Race wasn’t ‘created’ by any human person. Is there someone that created males and females? Please just take 10 seconds to really think about this. Do you honestly believe everyone looked the same until the 1700’s and then this guy came along and all of a sudden people around the world had different skin colors and different physical characteristics? Lmao

[@sunfruit8251]

☀️🍒🖤Toni Morrison was a phenomenal writer of great books that increase people's awareness about the human condition. This man is afraid to even answer Marc's question about the people who CREATED the categorization of race and it's purpose. His SHAME prevents him from supporting this education.

[@drshlotzkin]

"Created the categorization of race". Still trying to figure how this is relevant 🤔

[@tgaskins6982]

They once said tell the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pockets, he'll give him somebody to look down on and empty his pockets.

[@BrotherR1]

They don't want their children to know about the horrible history of this country while lying to our kids about this pale history.

[@jip216]

FACTS!!!!

[@NG-cf7zh]

it's sad TBH. I learned a lot about slavery and segregation in school, didn't bother me. This guy needs to raise mentally tougher children if learning the truth of our collective history will somehow scar them.

[@ManeOuattara]

The terms "negroid", "mongoloid", and "caucasaiod", were invented by Europeans to classify humanity by "racial" type. The laws that enabled disparate treatment of humans based on those categories were also created by Europeans. That guy's obsession with Japan doesn't change that fact of reality. He's being disingenuous.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

Additionally, if he understood the difference between racism and prejudice, he would’ve never brought up Japan in the first place.

[@jaxmiller724]

@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 sure, let's do that. Racism in Japan is when they view people from Southeast Asia as being a different race and generally being just immigrants doing manual labor to send money back home, prejudice is when they create an ethnic group called burakumin out of Japanese people that did "unclean" jobs and proceeded to systemically discriminate against them for hundreds of years, the yakuza are mainly comprised of that ethnic group. It's better socially, and until very recently even legally, to be a different race in Japan, which many Japanese don't consider themselves similar to Koreans or Chinese and claim to be able to see the difference, than to be an ethnic group preexisting in Japan. Racism isnt that stupid power+prejudice statement, we all know the white guy calling a black guy a slur is just as bad as a black guy calling an Asian guy a slur.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

@@jaxmiller724… I didn’t ask for any Japanese information. Additionally, no. It’s not as bad. Those two scenarios don’t equate. The context and nuance of those scenarios stem from white supremacy but they don’t carry the same weight.

[@jaxmiller724]

@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 They literally have nothing to do with white people, it has to do with Buddhism. If a theory is any good it can be applied to other areas and not immediately fail, this isn't math. The claim is that Europeans first created racial categories, which no, they didn't. You just actively care so little about any non European culture that you assume we created everything. Asian countries actively considered each other entirely different races and enacted laws specifically targeting others, they also made ethnic groups out of people in their own society and specifically targeted them. Just because there aren't black people involved doesn't mean it wasn't as bad if not worse and there's a longer history of discrimination based on skin color and perceived racial background all without white people for most of it.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

@@jaxmiller724… 😂 clearly you don’t understand white supremacy proven by your first sentence. So there’s no point in reading the novel like response.

[@MRAJE1129]

I've watched 4 videos with Marc Lamont Hill debating on critical race theory and every person has ducked, dodged and avoided the facts he pointed out.

[@malcolmgarvey9828]

Here we are in 2021 and (some) black folks are (still) looking for others outside of our community to educate our children.

[@AljIsHere128]

Anyone non melinated who cites Candace Owens as an example of conservative literature or thought needed to be a perspective shown. Already is losing the debate with me. He was triggered throughout the discussion on the unfortunate reality that yeah non melinated people were bad to others including to other non melinated people. Whining on where is the conservative perspective in books not a part of the school curriculum but didn't bother to read or glance at the books a part of the school system. Yeah dude had his right wing status made well known. I don't want my kid to know how bad we were as non melinated folks. But hey who cares about if a Black or Brown child gets racial slurs hurled at them by his kid.

[@miikojackson3528]

Candace speaks truth and you need to know that what they are teaching is MARXISM WITH A DAM BOW IT. Do your research. Your own race is racist. WORD!!!

[@krhodes12345]

@@miikojackson3528 she speaks nothing but falsity and is nothing more than a grifter. She cried racism when she was in school but probably doesn't express that to her mostly homogeneous audience because that would contradict with her narrative she uses to be prompted up while emptying people like you pockets.

[@icu4life240]

@@krhodes12345 Candace is a useful tool for white Nationalist. Candace is the type of person that would lead her people to the slaughter house with a smile on her face and a twinkle in her eye. As long as she being paid she has no problem with what she's doing

[@ewalker1057]

He's basically trying to do what they've always done, tell us how to think. Conservatives aren't a race.

[@miikojackson3528]

@@krhodes12345 Your lies don't work. We real American Patriots resist Marxism. You can't sugar coat it , parents aren't going for the lies. Your woke is a dam joke.

[@Chan-og8pu]

The moment Marc smiled, he knew he had him.

[@nadianorman2274]

He never had him. He has no argument whatsoever. Just another shameless race-hustler. I guess that's what he earned his degree in.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

How exactly did he "have me"?

[@JL_Lux]

@@bradschaeffer5736 the parent lost because he over stepped. He didn’t even read all the books he’s crying

[@Chan-og8pu]

@@bradschaeffer5736 Unprepared, period.

[@Chan-og8pu]

@@nadianorman2274 apparently we saw two different videos. Either that or your white sheet won't allow you to see what's right in front of you.

[@blueblue5427]

“ Children of God” he says while his kind discriminated and turned back those who looked like their God.😳

[@bradschaeffer5736]

Please explain to me who are "my kind."? Be specific.

[@blueblue5427]

@@bradschaeffer5736 You don’t need explanation . Your ass knows what I mean.

[@CarlNipmuc]

@@bradschaeffer5736 🤣😂🤣

[@theduke8454]

I don't need a school to teach my kids nor my grandchildren about racism, oppression and injustices I can teach them myself.

[@christopherd9538]

Right wing authors will never write this type of material! This was a stupid argument!

[@ewalker1057]

Conservatives aren't a race. What does that have to do with the concept of race being taught? He wants conservatives to control the education of America's children.

[@miles3703]

@@ewalker1057 Congrats that might be the dumbest thing I've heard so far. We are all dumber for having heard it. The left utterly dominates the education system in this country. Conservatives controlling education is a threat so remote as to be comical.

[@ewalker1057]

@@miles3703 What you claim to have heard is reflection of your ears grabbed and the brain between them ability to assess. Has nothing to do with what was actually said. That's why you heard it that way. I am not responsible for your hearing or your brain's thought process. Who says the right should dominate education? The synonyms for education are very similar to those for the word liberal (the left). The opposite is for the word conservative (the right). Education is a forward progressive action of growth. Conservatism is not. Conservatives are the last people to decide the educational curriculum for America's children.

[@djlabs1975]

There are plenty of center-left and conservative authors that write on this stuff... step out of your echo chamber.

[@nino2u]

This is a perfect illustration of how frustrating it is to talk about race with a lot of whites. They will not hear and refuse to understand. Marc’s anger is felt by all of us. It will literally drive you drinking

[@BronzeSista]

Truth be told whites don't want to face the racist acts and atrocities they committed against Blacks and other minorities.

[@benraje7866]

What do you do when they refuse to understand?

[@watermeloncaviar5959]

They know that there is no counter argument to race and this country's racist history. To even debate is not only a waste of time but useless.

[@clarencerayford5828]

He's doing all this talking and saying nothing smh!! He says it's one side of the spectrum...but that's the way it's always been with their history...one side of their spectrum that was made up. No conservatives participated, because they don't want to address the problem or hear the truth....pulling yet again from their hat of tricks to stop the truth 🙄. It doesn't teach divide....that's what their history taught....now it's a problem to hear real truth !! It teaches truth in its context and he's just going along with others he hear spouting lies over and over again....he keeps talking and talking...wanting us to hear everything and more he mumbling about, but don't want to give the host a chance to speak....or give us a chance to hear his pounts. That's what they do...just talk over and cut you off...but not speaking truth and saying absolutely nothing, sounding like Charlie's Browns teacher. They've adopted lies to debate to keep the history of how they created categorize, and demonized POC in this color...through how they look. They obviously ashamed of what whites did to our ancestors...or wouldn't try to hide it so. They want to create the next generation of piers and deniers, because they know their history is nothing but hate and lies....and it has become nothing but a danger to so called democracy in this country. When they know the truth....they want to suppress it!! They claim they're not racist and want everyone to get along....but their actions tell a different story (characters speak the truth over their words). They want to CONSERVE everything that continues to benefit THEM....and hope we just give up and stay quiet.....then it will disappear into the night!! Our children been uncomfortable....why are they so much better that they can't deal with uncomfortable truth. Well they're going to deal with it soon..m ..Poison Kay Ivey will deal with it soon. She too dam old to be so ignorant‼‼

[@jaydoggy456]

@@BronzeSista what whites? I'm white and I've never done those things. Do I have to answer for others crimes? How about my children? Are they responsible for something that happened 150 years ago. How about my grand children or great grand children?

[@crystalsplace7163]

Did any of those people against CRT ever ask how little Black children feel?

[@boxingman3110]

Why do people do hurtful things and afraid of them and feel shame when truth be told! Why wouldn't they think before doing?!

[@jerico80]

Honesty is key and Brad isnt being honest with straight up questions. Once a person cannot answer a simple question...conversation is pretty much over because the person has no intentions on being honest.

[@HansKeesom]

Problably because the world is not as simple as gotcha questions want it to be.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

@@HansKeesom What gotcha question? That he didnt read books he's complaining about? LOL.

[@HansKeesom]

@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 He did n't read the book cover to cover but enough to get the idea of the book and establish the list is not balanced. MLH is often not aiming at what someone is saying but tries to score a point on something else or on the person. He is dishonest and nasty. If you don't see that, that is your problem.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

Explain this. Where was I being dishonest?

[@jerico80]

@@bradschaeffer5736 He asked if there was 1 out of those 14 books on the syllabus that mentions inferiority and causes division and hatred. Being honest to God the answer should have been "I cant name any because i have not read through all of them". But you knew if you had been honest and said "I dont know" then your reasoning to dislike the syllabus because it causes division would have fell through the crack and maybe exposed your true motive. People do not answer straight up questions in fear of being caught. When he asked you about a book you have indeed read, your response was "i dont remember because i read it a long time ago". Which im guessing, just guessing, that it did not promote inferiority, division and hatred because if it had im pretty sure you would remember. Then instead of being honest and answering his question with "you dont know" you balled up his question, threw it behind you, then proceeded with a question of your own by asking "how many conservative authors are on the syllabus"? The hypocrisy is you expected an answer (which he gave),after refusing to answer his. Then again...your chance to be an honest person and straight up, he asked you would you like to retract that statement and have chance to read those books and come back and discuss it. An honest answer would have been yes or no but again you balled that question up, threw it behind you and proceeded with "well my point on coming here was for the childrens book". (Which you are correct but you entertained the subject of the syllabus) Never once in 20 minutes did you give a yes or no answer to any of Marcs questions yet you expected to receive them from him which he gave. Thats some "King to a peasant" type of action. Whereas when the King has a complaint against the peasant he expects an answer. But if a peasant has a complaint against the king its never addressed.

[@dianadowie3985]

Brad is full of hypocrisy.

[@michaelprice3992]

As soon as Brad got trapped by his own argument, he started going all over the place. Brad claiming strawmans being done about the book then preceded to to do strawman on top of strawman.....

[@primeexample]

It's crazy how brad is using history to try to make his point but can't see how black history is important!!!

[@futon2345]

I doubt Brad learned anything from this conversation.

[@ARMONI555]

Brad aint interested in learning shit

[@jimmymags6516]

what should he have learned

[@Loveamericasave]

Lamont tries to mate like he's smart but he's really not in India for as long as Indian has existed the darker-skinned Indians are treated worse because of their dark skin they're considered inferior to the light-skinned Indians

[@GecOh77]

he learned not to do this show again

[@GoSuMonSteR]

@@Loveamericasave Marc didnt claim otherwise. He clearly acknowledged the caste system. That's not creating a specific category of race based on inherent characteristics of each race.

[@urayford]

I'm all for a honest conversation but this gentleman wants to be able to tell history from a conservative view which is for the most part dismissive to slavery.

[@jazzyone6555]

I think the issue is that history IS written from a conservative view. The system doesn't want to change that, and it doesn't matter how disparaging that is to children of color.

[@georgewmitchell]

@@jazzyone6555 History shouldn't have a partisan perspective, it should just have factual accuracy which conservatism seems to be opposed to. Just tell the truth about history. White folks will be fine. Nobody is going to hate white folks because there is terrible history involving them.

[@jazzyone6555]

@@georgewmitchell I agree. Unfortunately that isn't the case, and hasn't been since The Daughter's of Confederacy were given free reign to dictate what stories American History portraits.

[@MrWhiskeycricket]

he never argued against teaching historical fact, at any point in this interview.

[@jazzyone6555]

@@MrWhiskeycricket he argues for a more conservative teaching of history. This typically means that people of color are marginalized or left out all together. American schools teach the same white washed versions of history and often punish children to read beyond the text to find hidden truths.

[@ellebarker9035]

I love how when you actually press these people you see how I’ll-prepared and licking they are. Brad brought up the topic and then said he hadn’t read them. Classic

[@randycallow3736]

Really confusing about all this race stuff and how it's taught or not? Did we have slaves,who was bought and who did the buying? School by race? When was school available to your race? Housing? Has there ever been laws that kept you from owning or renting housing,? Voting? Has there been equal representation? Has your race always been able to vote? If you start answering these..ooooh

[@donnachatham1335]

Dude is practically exercising his WYT privilege by over talking, not answering the questions and being evasive and standing by his empty played out talking points. Perfect example of I’m WYT and I said so!!!!

[@marohan]

More like black fragility

[@stephaniemcavey4637]

That's funny Donna because I think Marc is the one doing what you are accusing the "WYT" guy of going!

[@donnachatham1335]

@@stephaniemcavey4637 of course you do

[@donnachatham1335]

@@stephaniemcavey4637 of course you do

[@donnachatham1335]

@@stephaniemcavey4637 of course you do

[@IGNANT4LIFE]

the mental effort this guy puts into keeping his ego protected is what gets in his way of understanding what Marc is saying.

[@miikojackson3528]

The bow on top is MARXISM, won't work . Marc is a woke joke. Get real!!

[@jamberry8026]

@@miikojackson3528 Your trolling is tedious!

[@jamberry8026]

@@journey9896 That is readily apparent to me. You can always tell when they're brainwashed by the wage thieves. It's him and people like him who actually cause wages to be low. Poor people aren't capitalists. They're the pawns and slaves of capitalists!

[@TheMightymo05]

Agreed.

[@sshoegirl30004]

Exactly!!!

[@theeverythingrecoverychann2912]

can I make a channel called "white news tonight" in America??? or to be more specific, after made will it not be banned?

[@tonysienzant6717]

I've watched three videos back-to-back by Marc Lamont & his tactics are the same in each: he invites a guest to talk about (X) but Marc diverts the guest onto some other point (Y) & when the guest attempts to come back to the point (X) - why he was brought on the show supposedly - Marc then shouts him down always bringing him back to other thing (Y). AND WE NEVER GET TO HEAR AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF (X) !!! It appears that Marc has NO genuine interest in what his guests actually have to say or what their concerns might be or what things may be done to actually resolve their concerns. All he is interested in is 'scoring ideological points.' If you're a 'woke' Radical Leftist, it'll make you feel good, a real stroke to your ego, assuring you that all your conclusions are based on solid ground & there is no need to question any of your own assumptions. But if you're interested in not just 'scoring points for your team' but a civil conversation where the emotional temperature is one of respect & humility, where one's IDEAS stand or fall upon the validity of one's argument, you'll need to change the channel. You will learn little to nothing here on this one. (P.S. - - in case you didn't hear it over all of Marc's screaming at his guest, the man said "what privilege are you modeling by talking to me?") What I did learn here is that the Westfield curriculum is unbalanced. When you have 14 books all framing race issues in a similar way with NO countervailing viewpoint, that isn't education that is indoctrination. It must be ideological indoctrination, otherwise they wouldn't try to foist it upon 5-year-old children who haven't the mental acuity to withstand it. And to think these types of things are being done out of a sense of 'compassion' & to make race-relations better, is really ironic.

[@keishapuryear8180]

Teaching the truth prevents repeating atrocities. It is not going backwards

[@thefunkinrockrebellion4221]

MH my brother, I need you to use the mute button with these fools THE minute they Change the topic because they can’t answer the question and reveal that they haven’t done the research they’re on the show to defend! Hold them to a point, keep going back, don’t let them continually move the goalpost. PLEASE 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@MPR2]

Amen!

[@nadianorman2274]

Marc Lamont hill changes the intended topic himself, so he should mute himself.

[@davidporter9147]

How can I subscribe again?

[@sr2291]

Where is the Syllabus?

[@MrMetro-mt5qv]

This guy just showed his whole hand when he gave us a list of his desired authors. 🙄

[@electric8668]

Exactly

[@Paul-wu7xd]

Thomas Sowell!!!!

[@MrMetro-mt5qv]

@@Paul-wu7xd 🤮

[@electric8668]

@@Paul-wu7xd I don't recall Thomas Sowell having any left leaning authors as contributors to any of his works. So why must left leaning authors have reich wingers as contributors?

[@mrflynn01]

Thomas Sowell, 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

[@darmadusa]

It says a lot about people who want to shield their children from becoming well-rounded and informed.

[@oranseay2559]

This town is like that predominantly white, VERY RACIST

[@darmadusa]

@@oranseay2559 Which is crazy, because why would he sit up there as if they're all not trying to preserve what they're all about?

[@HansKeesom]

He want them well-rounded therefore not only the one sided perspective of the left. You may not be aware of it but there are a lot of authors disagreeing with your bubble.

[@kiddchris9579]

@@HansKeesom so where was he back when black kids were getting only the whitewashed version of history?

[@doobie176]

@@HansKeesom he wants them well rounded with conservative views not historical facts

[@bravonoizmedia8704]

Parent - "Each point in the syllabus is how white people did bad stuff." Interviewer - "What is wrong with teaching that?"

[@babasolaosikoya5947]

If white people did bad stuff, then it should be thought in history. Factual representation of what was done.

[@pinkyjones7398]

It's not wrong. White people have been behaving very badly for a millenia

[@ldyvirtue8642]

Teach your child true history at home.

[@rudimwongozi2169]

What we mean when we define the category of race is the color coded caste system. White is the highest. Black is the lowest. Europeans or so called "white" people created that. Absolutely.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

Do you not find it ironic that you use the analogy of a caste system? Where does "caste" come from. Who created it? You just proved my point. Thanks.

[@rudimwongozi2169]

@@bradschaeffer5736 in the system of white supremecy color takes the place of caste. In the Hindu system it may have been based on social class. In the white supremecy system it is based on skin color.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@rudimwongozi2169 Wrong. The caste system very much is based on race and even variations of skin tone within races. And it dates back 3,000 years--which I believe is earlier than 1619 yes? . The very fact that you used the term 'caste' demonstrates that race-based social hierarchies have been in place in decidedly non-European cultures for millennia. You defeated your own argument the moment you cited this--that you are ignorant of its origins (see Aryan migrations) and what it is about doesn't change the fact of history any more than being ignorant of the moon doesn't change the fact that it's still there. . You just validated my argument without even realizing it. That's why moronic racists like MLH should be shunned. Not only do they preach race hatred for profit, they do it based on bogus history that you yourself have just demonstrated.

[@rudimwongozi2169]

@@bradschaeffer5736 first off you say I defeated my own argument? I'm not making any argument with you. I don't know you and give much less than a fuck what you think about anything. Is that clear? Yes I made the analogy of white racism to a color coded caste system. That analogy works for me and I don't give a fuck about YOU. Ok? We need to do whatever we can do to help people understand African people's historic grievance with Western European hegemony. That's the spirit in which I relay my thoughts.

[@rudimwongozi2169]

@@bradschaeffer5736 I think perhaps you are trying to make the point that white supremecy or white racism is no new thing and no big thing. But that's YOUR issue. Our issue as Black people is to stay away from people like you and not allow the likes of you I'm our inner circles. It will cause less mayhem and mischief in our societies. Call it racist if you may. I don't care. I as a Black person don't care for white people like you. I already don't like YOU and I don't even know you personally. But you're another one of those sanctimonious know it alls with zero self awareness. You can't figure out why people like me CAN'T STAND people like you. You think the problem is me (lol). Or maybe you think the problem is Marc Lamont Hill. No. I assure you the problem is YOU (lol)

[@TheKazePlays]

Another right-winger with bad arguments. Who could've known.

[@marohan]

He killed Marc. The victimhood narrative is profitable

[@victornewman06]

@@marohan you were watching the wrong show because that babbling idiot didn't kill anything

[@gjh9299]

thank you for not grouping all whites are like him, Im appalled by Brad and his people, and he has an education

[@shadowess1961]

@@gjh9299 He was so uneducated, it was painful to watch. How are you bringing a syllabus of books, you have never read to argue about? LOL

[@slickrick8046]

That’s not a right-winger. He’s in New Jersey which is a state full of Democrat liberals.

[@kmac2789]

The best way to teach race is to integrate neighborhoods. Kids love kids, no matter the race. Parents teach hate....

[@bradschaeffer5736]

And so, now, do schools and race hustlers with TV shows.

[@chriswinters4053]

Gotta give Mark some credit here for being philosophically consistent (irrespective of the rightness or wrongness of the efficacy of teaching race based education). He sticks to his argument and rightly calls out the other guy critiquing literature he hadn't read..

[@krisjones4051]

The problem is that if you actually understand Marxian conflict theory then you don’t even need to read past the titles and the political viewpoints of the authors. It’s just racism and activism disguised as scholarship.

[@seanmundyphoto]

@@krisjones4051 a very nuanced take lol "disregard everything they actually say and just strawman it as *the real racism * "

[@krisjones4051]

@@seanmundyphoto There’s no need to strawman a political philosophy which frames all white people as an “oppressor class.” Derrick Bell created Critical Legal Studies, the egg which hatched into CRT, upon the premise that Brown v. Board was just a way for white Americans to prevent developing countries from adopting communism by appearing to be less racist and more progressive. Zero evidence for this assertion. Now the same paranoid delusion has metastasized into Critical Pedagogic child abuse where kids are groomed to be resentful and self-loathing. It’s indisputable. Now how about you bring the nuance.

[@terrencehall7264]

Stay in control of your show my brother. Stop chasing every thing your guests are saying. Telling someone "it's your show" is not the same as controlling your show.

[@ThePrimsta]

@Stock Starters thank you

[@neillomarispringle4860]

@Stock Starters Terence is completely right. It's a subtle tactic used to impress superiority or dominance. Marc needed to reel him in and dismiss him politely.

[@dianadowie3985]

Brad is all about his point of opinion.

[@oranseay2559]

Like you said opinion

[@loriannrichardson7644]

Did this man even know who Marc was. Marc is an acclaimed scholar, a college professor. Marc knows his subject and always comes prepared.

[@thephantom5368]

He's trying to say "Let's forget about it and play like racism never existed."

[@JustXavier]

Marc is a patient man. That’s all I can say.

[@nadianorman2274]

He's condescending and immature. Why does he need to yell? Very disgusting.

[@JustXavier]

@@nadianorman2274 who’s condescending and immature??

[@nadianorman2274]

@I Am Xavier OBVIOUSLY Marc Lamont hill!!! You fall for the race-hustling. Is it because you're looking into it as a career?

[@dedricklucious1057]

White parents hate to hear about real American History explaining the black experience in America.

[@dedricklucious1057]

AMERICAN HISTORY BOOKS ARE FILLED WITH WHITE WASHED BULLSHIT!!

[@blackhercules1753]

Brad is totally against books that he himself hasn't read because he has projected his biases on the political affiliations of the authors.

[@PassportReasons]

brad just got schooled. I replied to his comment and I called him out. lets see how Braaaaad replies.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

You guys fell for Marc's middle school debate trick I see. He knows I read the majority of the books, and also knows that I was going down the list in the order on the syllabus to give the viewers and idea of the kind of books that were on it. I said I didn't read the first one and the second one down I did read, let's just put it this way. Think of not just any book you've read over the years but your favorite. Now tell me the main theme. Okay, in one minute, without it in front of you, tell me where in the book it specifically lays out that theme. That was a classic "gotcha" trick. The broader issue was that all the books convey a left of center viewpoint when it comes to race. And Marc had to admit it. Thereby making whether I read one specific sample irrelevant. What do I mean by conservative view on race: Left: (CRT) All inequality that blacks face today, economic, social, educational, etc. are the by-product of systemic racism and thus it is with the white race where the guilt for their plight can be found. Right: There has certainly been racism over the decades no doubt and slavery was an abomination. But the Civil Rights Act is 56 years old. Two generations. In that time has America become more or less racist? Have blacks had more or less opportunity to succeed? So what is holding them back? Maybe it has more to do with 72% out-of-wedlock births and with it all the pathologies that prevent a cohort from succeeding, and schools that pump out illiterates, not mention they keep voting for the party that has turned once thriving cities into war zones. That is what two sides look like. You think any kids in these classes will even get a whiff of the second notion?

[@PassportReasons]

@@bradschaeffer5736 Still trying. still barking. still ego. you don't know what two sides are like because you don't listen to others. you treat black people like another side to manipulate or to negotiate with like chess pieces. You ignore what is going on. whether 56 years, 56 days or 56 centuries you don't get to unilaterally dictate and if you'd stop being such a shill for the white race you'd understand but of course you have time to type your drivel but no courage to have a live debate. just get off of KZbin brad. We are TIRED of your desperate tactics, your projection, your efforts to preemptively use mirroring dialogue, witty retorts and smug replies. We know when you are fake and you are fake. your obsession with out of wedlock birth rates is hilarious since the current children aren't to blame for it yet your ignorance affects them. so again I am far more knowledgeable about this than you and you are a Dunning Kruger ego. get lost. since you are too afraid to debate me just get lost

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@PassportReasons Shouldn't you be looking for a job?

[@cryptoforeveryone2689]

@@PassportReasons you are an unwitting tool of the left.

[@rievans57]

I don't want my 5 year old grandson to be taught anything about race while in school. Our family will handle that outside of school.

[@bassman777]

I bet this guy hasn’t read anything by Booker T. Washington. Booker T. Washington literally talks about how things are not appropriately taught in school history books about slavery and racism.

[@nglaw5706]

This guy is beyond misguided. The books are teaching about what is. He doesnt want kids to learn that this how (a lot of) white folks think. It's the mentality that the kids will encounter and they need to he prepared for.

[@kevinfergusson694]

Racism is taught. Let the future generations be taught truth.

[@yjhova]

Love my guy Marc, always call these con artists out on their bs. Totally misrepresenting the context of these books. Just hear the word race and automatically assume its race baiting

[@miikojackson3528]

You're a brainwashed one too.

[@v-gutta5201]

That Part👆🏼 Marc with the Win 🏆

[@timross1648]

That white con-artist is only in it for the money, he doesn't care about telling the truth, because it makes him look bad!

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@timross1648 Why am I a con artist? Explain please. What is my "con"?

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@doogeehowser Wgar claim was “demonstrably untrue”?

[@juangarza1963]

Brad brings up the Holocaust and then when Marc counters with the Holocaust, he doesn't want to go there

[@NG-cf7zh]

5 year olds know about race. I knew about race when I was 5 in 1989, not hard to tell that I'm white, a black kid is black, a puerto rican is puerto rican, etc. Nothing wrong with noting that, or even really about speaking about racism, or even race as a construct; as long as we all acknowledge it and move on with treating people equally, I don't see the problem. I feel no guilt about racism or slavery personally.

[@miguellopez6407]

I love how Brad's eyes glaze over when Dr Hill drops historical truths about the creation of Race, lol.

[@ewalker1057]

It's their concept they created it.

[@MegaTamarra]

@@ewalker1057 Right! And now that it has backfired because it’s not so WIDELY accepted to be an overt racist anymore, they want the narrative of what THEY created to be changed. Now they want to claim EVERYBODY can be racist. They’re even CHANGING the definition of racism to say anyone who thinks their race is superior is a racist. Racism, just like all isms is put in place as a social construct and THEY invented that ism to keep a certain people at the bottom of the social ladder. Well, their forefathers never thought a day would come where their ism would backfire on their descendants. The sins of the father…

[@HuemorDGAP]

@@MegaTamarra you better preach!!!!!

[@jamberry8026]

@@MegaTamarra Only white people think their skin color and race makes them superior to everyone else. No one else does that except them. It's all in their literature and their public policies.

[@MegaTamarra]

@@jamberry8026 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@AndreRay1127]

This man is trying to put a pretty little bow over slavery smh

[@bonitaapplebum0088]

As soon as a white person mentions Thomas Sowell, I tune out.

[@liyaxo4560]

Wow he wouldn’t even listen. I actually agree with his point of having balanced viewpoints in classrooms but the disrespect and assumptions turned me off to listening to the guy on the right. His delivery was off putting. He kept moving the goal post and changing the subject when he couldn’t back up his claim. S/O to the host for being respectful and staying on topic

[@halfurbanhalfsuburban8219]

When they are caught in lies like saying things are in books they haven’t read, they just derail the conversation by over talking and clowning. This man’s children should be ashamed of him!

[@bradschaeffer5736]

You have no idea what I was saying do you. I said "these classes are teaching that". I didn't say and you will specifically find it in this book on page 22. You fell for Marc's middle school debate trick hook line and sinker.

[@tanjianforever]

Nice use of the word Gaijin, while not understanding there's no racial connotation to that word. It literally means outside person, or foreigner. It is equivalent to the Chinese "Wai Guo Ren", or person from an outside country. The word you actually could have used to specifically make your point is a different word, so maybe don't just say things out loud just because you have a mouth.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

@@tanjianforever In what period? In what way it is used? 1. In Japanese, the word means, literally, "outside person." In Japanese it's spelled t is often used as a contraction of sorts for gaikokujin ("outside-country person"), meaning foreigner. In its contracted form it can be an insult, but in recent years has been watered down by widespread use in and out of Japan. In actual usage, a better definition would be "non-Japanese" since Japanese people will use it in reference to non-Japanese even when they themselves are the foreigners in a country other than Japan. . 2.From Japanese, literarily meaning " outsider". A derogatory and ethnocentric term used to describe a foreigner in Japan that has round eyes. Other East Asians are not referred as " gaijin". Although its meaning especially since the end of World War II has had a more banal implication. . 3.A Non-Japanese person with round eyes, anywhere in the world. . But yes. Only whites have ever picked up on physical differences between the races. Never before has anyone in the world from the beginning of human history to the 16th century noticed it. Must have been a much less violent world.

[@tanjianforever]

@@bradschaeffer5736 yes and none of that specifically is racial. Ethnocentric* is not the same as racism or specifically using racial language. It doesn't reference a person's race (skin color). This contradicts your point that japanese used racial terms as early as 1400. This is not a race based word it is based on ethnic or national background.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

So if then by your definition if a Caucasian calls an Asian a "slant-eye" (I hate that term, it is just for illustration) or, conversely an Asian calls a Caucasian "round eye" these are not racist terms because they aren't specifically about skin color? And then doesn't that mean the Indian Caste system, which has hierarchy based on skin pigment, is by definition racially categorizing? Like Marc, you are caught in the web of semantics.

[@setnthahookwitstubbs297]

They are scared to read the truth!!! I want to see this in it's entirety!!!

[@blackthought9]

the problem is ..the parent doesn’t want to admit that is American History..you can’t erase it by trying to ignore it

[@pebbleswilson289]

So, some people don't want their children to understand history when the children are the future. Children deserve love.peace,unity.

[@l.torrence4603]

So he wants to determine when race should be taught, but the teaching of race and when it is taught is important to the people that are effected the most by the history of race. So his concern is subjective rather than objective especially to someone who benefits most from race.

[@nadianorman2274]

Everyone is affected by racism. And if we truly want to know the origin of racism against black people then we will see it never even began with the white man. There wasn't any racist literature written by whites pre-dating the literature written by middle eastern muslims that described black people as animals who were naturally born to be slaves.

[@rafaelpena4269]

He wants self-hating black's that BOW down to him..lol

[@miikojackson3528]

Marc is leading you ASTRAY.

[@rafaelpena4269]

@@miikojackson3528 I'm assuming you're Candace "OWEN'S" black..lol

[@diranshouse7061]

Someone isn't self hating because they don't agree with you. Just like you are not self loving for believing a lie that makes you feel Better.

[@rafaelpena4269]

@@diranshouse7061 😆😆😆..ok👌..Where's the LIE?? If you can't explain..YOU "the lie"!

[@kfreckle5453]

@@diranshouse7061 Candace Owens says that blacks are the worst and most muderous race. If that isn't self hate then u dont know what self hate is

[@Bmarr33]

Marc made a mistake when he went after him for naming a book off the list. The guy was just reading the names of the books to see which one he could cite as his example.

[@Kym-Seer]

This was a good debate until all the over talking. They got too excited lol

[@brandonlewis7832]

I’m so happy this show exists and I’m thrilled that Marc has this platform to tussle with guests and their ideas. However, there is an art to interviewing (especially in this format) and I want Marc to master that art. The delay and the constant talking on both sides caused a lot of confusion and I think some key points were lost.

[@xman9190]

Marc always pauses to allow his guests to finish their point. He goes out of his way to not get to a point where they're talking over each other. This particular guest chose to try to not allow Marc to finish any point that he was making. The guest asked questions then didn't allow Marc to answer.

[@Dstonebull]

Yes, the delays interfere with the ability to clearly dialogue. They need to update their video technology to improve in the audio engagement.

[@friendswitdadealer]

@@Dstonebull i agree. It's getting annoying at this point.

[@Dstonebull]

@@friendswitdadealer it’s very annoying… the delay is appx 2-3 seconds which causes the appearance of talking over one another. Very surprised that the show’s producer has not raised this as an issue which impacts the show/viewer experience.

[@zakiasimpson8928]

There was a delay that agitated the situation and the guest didn’t respect him as the host, Marc gets to be human and possibly triggered

[@biggpappa5462]

Why can't bnc come up with a better communication system that gets rid of this delay between Hill and his guests.

[@peedubs1623]

Seriously! Why can’t we use a telephone or walkie-talkies or somethin’ that will let Marc spit his game correctly.🤔

[@BRaggles]

Why do you even have interviews if the technology has such a delay? It became unwatchable at the end. Do better.

[@robertc6343]

This is a good example how not to conduct interviews. The host basically threw tantrum when the guest didn’t agree with him. He lost it when he said it was his show. Terrible.

[@Zettyboo]

Brad this is what black people have been going through for centuries even to this day!!!

[@marohan]

Victimhood

[@kfreckle5453]

@@marohan you seem to love talk about victimhood. What does speaking about black history and what America was built on has to do with victimhood? There are many black people who speak about these topics and they are not seeking sympathy or validation from whites.

[@marohan]

@@kfreckle5453 yes they are. Lemont says it everyday. The ball can't move without white allies. They need white people to change the systematic policies that affect black America. Str8 victimhood. Black America can change themselves. Called empowerment.

[@kfreckle5453]

@@marohan that is why blacks need to stop voting for fucking Democrats and Republicans. Because none of them will ever change shit for blacks.

[@marohan]

@@kfreckle5453 I agree with that. But voting 90% one way for a party of abortion, high crime, n against school choice is madness

[@RodsCafe]

What can be done to get rid of the delays between the parties in your interviews? Is there any way to fix that? The delays make the conversations a lot more difficult to follow because each person is responding to questions/statements that were 2-3 seconds earlier. I think the dialog is great, but it gets a bit frustrating to watch because of these delays.

[@raycecarlife2164]

Actually its a satellite issue that has gotten worse over the years due to so many outlets and services using satellites...sooooooo frustrating.

[@jamilalove77]

Actually if Brad would have just waited to respond and not interrupted as well as given Marc the respect Marc gave to him to finish a statement, the converation would have gone better.

[@keithanthony974]

Brad reminds me of my ex partner. Pretended to debate, didn't have any background knowledge or a valid argument so used the technique of talking over me loudly every time I tried to go to the facts, after letting her talk uninterrupted.

[@brokenramhorn1186]

"Brad Brad Brad!...Why don't you want you want 5 year old children being made to feel bad because of the colour of their skin?!"

[@emilianoadams9499]

It doesn’t matter if there’s a conservative author. The better argument is, are the authors included conveying accurate information

[@miikojackson3528]

@@kipwonder2233 They want Marxism, do your research.

[@miikojackson3528]

They are about Marxism!!

[@keishapuryear8180]

Exactly and Candace Owens' ideologies are steeped in misinformation

[@dendradwar9464]

I am from Northern Ireland. For years and years both sides Catholics and Protestants were told there were differences were told the other side was the enemy etc. What resulted was 30 years of both sides slaughtering one another. Pro-rata the casualties to the US population today saw 750,000 dead (this is a pro rata figure). The more you point to differences between people (in Northern Ireland it was religion) the more you highlight this the more you fix differences in people's heads. And long term in Northern Ireland this was a very bad road to walk down.

[@mikeaskme3530]

@Jerry Mellerick, but the Catholic and Protestants of Ireland did not fight over skin color, but religious doctrine and dogma, am I right?

[@dendradwar9464]

@@mikeaskme3530 Correct it was all white on white violence ... this said it was very easy to know who was who - surnames, first names, where they lived - society became pretty close to fully segregated. If you were of the wrong "religion" in an area - death threats, burnings and physical assault was the methods used by both sides to "purify" the area. Mixed marriages more or less died off. I am a Catholic (so obviously bias to some extents) but the Catholics were the "Black Americans" i.e. the oppressed - loads of data to prove same. We had our civil rights marches and the other side responded with police brutality and latter the British Army who actively and systematically targeted Catholic areas. These areas gave massive popular support to the IRA who fought back by killing and murdering the police, the army and "other side". The "other" side organised and equipped their own "death squads", and the violence spiralled out of control. The similarities between Northern Ireland and the current move in the US towards identifying people as oppressed and oppressors is striking. What I am trying to say is the road "of oppressed and oppressor" logical conclusion is what happened in Northern Ireland (from 1969 to 1998). I am saying do not walk down that road, there are no winners only losers. The carnage was not worth it in the end for any side.

[@mikeaskme3530]

@@dendradwar9464 "What I am trying to say is the road "of oppressed and oppressor" logical conclusion is what happened in Northern Ireland (from 1969 to 1998)." That is not the logical conclusion for those who want honesty and truth and some type of reconciliation and you cant have that if the truth is constantly being denied or covered up.

[@dendradwar9464]

@@mikeaskme3530 And that my friend is exactly what the Catholics said in 1968, more or less word for word

[@dendradwar9464]

@@mikeaskme3530 My take on this, would be do not focus on the negative instead focus on the positive - what would really make Black Americans lives better - would that be better schools, better hospitals, etc - focus on what society can do to help as opposed to the negative based "oppressed and oppressor" - this is my opinion and of course I could be wrong!

[@kazidecuir3404]

Marc is so good at what he does.

[@zeezerzam]

Being a scumbag racist?

[@loriannrichardson7644]

​@@zeezerzamNah, just telling the truth and backing it up with facts. The man is a professor.

[@Christ_is_a_blackman100]

He's saying this is because of the browning of America and their scared 🤔

[@JamaalJackson81]

Marc if you read this please have them fix the delay problem. I love watching your videos on BNC channel but the delays is what is really causing the arguments/escalations. I learn so much from just watching your interviews on here. Keep them coming

[@Ayesha_Michelle]

Kudos to Marc for not laughing in this mans face, sir, are you asking or answering your own questions to avoid the question at hand... okay

[@vanhughes]

The last time people went to different lines was called America!

[@etamlous]

When white people in America declared Emancipation Proclamation for black salves, in Czarist Russia there was still serfdom where white Slavs were continuing to be slaves for upper ruling classes. When American whites fought to liberate black slaves from Southern states, millions of people from Persians to Russians were being kidnapped in Central Asian Khanate of Khiva and forced into slavery in what is today Uzbekistan. This slavery continued into late 19th Century. Many of these slaves endured torture and beheadings. To distort world history that only whites practiced slavery or that only blacks were victims of slavery is gross injustice to other peoples’ struggles. Slavery continues today on African region. Mauritania practices slavery. Hundreds of thousands of Eritreans are kidnaped and forced into slavery in Arab countries but whites are not to blame there. Should that be ignored because it’s not the whites who enslave?