Critical Race Theory: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

[@jullit31]

As a German, not feeling discomfort during history lessons sounds like an utterly alien concept... Sometimes feeling discomfort is important.

[@tabularasa0606]

Exactly, you cannot stand up without falling down first.

[@Tron08]

It's interesting because it's exactly this argument that helped shoot down some proposed legislation in Wyoming. A Jewish man discussed the lessons of the holocaust and how we absolutely should be made uncomfortable by them to help learn from past mistakes. The law was then vetoed despite a majority of Republicans in the chamber so there's still some hope left!

[@mariondean8499]

As a German, I agree

[@peachybuttercrunch4409]

it validates them. it solidifies them. it is important. i once missed an interview. my husband and i are 30 years married and happy. that day, i wanted him to make me feel better. he did not sympathise. he said, feel it. i did. it is important. we fake nothing and remain happy and Married.😏👍

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

As a german most people didn't give a shit about what the nazis did and would look shocked at you if you said, those nazis were regular normal german like you and me and most people would have been nazis as well, because few people would sacrifice their life to fight for freedom unless the government supports freedom.

[@TheJapanChannelDcom]

It must be frustrating being a reasonable and intelligent American, knowing you are slightly outnumbered by fools with maximum confidence and minimum intelligence.

[@BSRaven]

'America, land of the free' should really be more 'land of the Dunning-Krueger' sometimes...

[@sascharambeaud1609]

Slightly?

[@Rennar3210]

We're not even outnumbered (at least on a national level), our government is just set up to value land more than people, and unfortunately those people have more land.

[@Pguz24]

Its more shameful and embarrassing IMO.

[@catherinepraus8635]

It is, high from Oregon

[@adrielsebastian5216]

HE'S BACK! Our favourite depressed pigeon in a suit is back!

[@PDS24]

LMAOOO, depressed pigeon in a suit 😂😂😭

[@yamankouli9996]

And the best thing is: I am positive John would immediately like your comment! :)

[@queeneon]

Aww that’s the cutest way to call John

[@JaydevRaol]

Yes 😂

[@juliovnobre]

Yaaay!! 🥰🥰

[@apjtv2540]

As a British person, discomfort about history is kinda constant. Basically every country and ethnicity in the world was hurt by us at some point. And ignoring that entirely would just be unacceptable.

[@st_420]

Same for Germany

[@louiswilson6950]

1984 was called 1948 & about Britain, had to change Name !

[@AG-vb6vv]

As a British Indian person, you should really chill. 99% of countries have hurted other countries. It’s part of history. And in relative terms, the Brits were fine. Compare them to the Arabs, the Turks, the Conquistadors and the Germans - and the British Empire seems to be rather civilised by the standards of their time. Your white guilt and self-flagellation is not only unasked for, it does seem to be a bit patethic. Have some pride in your people, your history and your nation. No one respects someone who doesn’t respect themselves.

[@st_420]

@@AG-vb6vv The british Empire enslaved almost half the world and invaded even more. Saying that they were civilised while doing that, seems like a pretty bold statement.

[@AG-vb6vv]

@@st_420 The Arabs and Turks used to engage in slavery too. They used to enslave non Muslims, mostly African pagans but also Slavs, Europeans, Indians, Central Asians, Christians etc. They used to castrate their male slaves (the reason why you don’t see descendants today) and use the females primarily as sex slaves. The Arab and Ottoman slave trade only stopped when Britain waged wars and enforced via treaty, abolitionism. I said Britain was civilised, only in RELATIVE terms. Anyone who knows history knows that, you just sound ignorant.

[@danitho]

I grew up the only black kid in class. I remember, in second or third grade, the teacher gave us an assignment about family seals or something. We had to present it and tell our history. I had no idea what she was talking about and I knew my family didn't have one. But my mom and I spent a lot of time getting our family tree together, some old family stories, etc, to present. So day of class comes, we're getting ready to present. I was so excited to share my history. We're going up one at a time. Comes my turn, the teacher skips me entire. She looked dead at me, got this panicked look on her face, and skipped me. And I KNEW it was because I was black. The thing is I don't think she meant to be disrespectful or uninclusive. I think she literally just panicked, didn't quite know what to do, and skipped me as a way to save me from not having anything to share. I was too young to really know what to do at the time. I wish I had been a little older because I would have spoken up and told her I wanted to share my history. I wish I had. It was important to me. But alas.

[@wickedale6060]

Okay. So you, you family, the teacher, the class all learned a valuable lesson. A big lesson indeed.

[@khulhucthulhu9952]

This honestly brought me to tears. I've felt like that many times (for completely different reasons) and it stings.

[@danitho]

@@wickedale6060 What lesson did we all learn exactly?

[@danitho]

@@khulhucthulhu9952 Right! Did not feel good at all!

[@hughjazzole2037]

My brother came up w an idea that we were descnded from the 1st kings of Ireland. I thought that was Bullshit because we were Americans & we domnt kiss ass to kings!!I dont care if they were Irish. Kings have always been conniving dueschhebags!! & thieves.

[@jordanwagers9910]

Living in Indiana, a state that now has some of the most oppressive anti-CRT laws in the country, I learned about the trail of tears in 1st grade and the worst excesses of slavery in the 5th. Neither made me feel bad about being white, just left me wondering why Andrew Jackson is seen as a hero and the confederacy wasn't actively despised.

[@jjerrell89]

Hey, same mate. I was raised in a small town in Indiana, so small that I didn't see my first black family until I was in Jr. High. They where cool people. :-)

[@rajanlad]

Tribalism

[@ivandobrev2240]

No, you won't feel bad, but this incentivizes hatred in the mind of young children ( mostly black as their parents / grandparents were the victims ), creating prejudices and segregation. And I am not even living in the USA. Just hearing john oliver speak about this it painfully obvious that the net result is hatred. CRT must be removed completely. To live along side any nation what so ever, the past must be forgotten and a bond between them must be created, because looking at the past creates nothing but hatred and a lust for vengeance for people who are long long dead.

[@steemlenn8797]

And thats the point. CRT is making people despise that great hero!!!

[@blazoraptor3392]

@@ivandobrev2240 you can't be fucking serious

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I’ve taught high school before, and I got to say that many teens love the chance to discuss controversial or political issues when given the chance. They’re forming their own identifies and beliefs, and are starting to notice that the simple narratives they learned as a child may not be entirely true. However, most teens don’t have the opportunity or environment to discuss those things, especially if those topics don’t fit their parent’s worldview. So a classroom that provides context and information on subjects, and a civil discussion moderated by a teacher is exactly the place to discuss things such as racism.

[@kayarnold3151]

Having those conversations at school and college is what helped me break away from a racist family. I already didn't feel the same as them, but those conversations helped cut the final cords. Now as a parent, my kiddo knows my opinion, has been able to see what is going on in the world, and openly discusses these topics with us. She has helped change my mind on a few thing because seeing it through the eyes of a future generation that will be impacted more than I will is life changing.

[@VinOnline]

@@kayarnold3151 That's great to hear!

[@moonlily1]

It's not about the kids. The parents crying "oh, think of the children!" are only thinking about themselves. They aren't worried that their children will be distressed, but worried that their children will not espouse the same worldviews that they have. Or to put it straight, they are racist and they are worried that their children will not be racist.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

That's probably not the case if they're a white nonhispanic ethnic group. Imagine how shitty it is to be lied about the ethnic cleansing and cultural vandalism of your culture, while being told that your family was responsible for doing it for other groups. See the problem? Germans had our language banned, and were subject to the same executive order 9066 restrictions as the Japanese, but that basically does not come up at all during the units on internment. And internment isn't even the word, the word is concentration. Those were concentration camps, not internment camps. It was deeply uncomfortable growing up in desegregating schools to have to balance the same ethnic identity that the students of color were. I had one culture at home, another at school and got to be completely confused because the schools were making it into a issue of race rather than ethnicity and focused purely based on reversing it.

[@HarlemSexyBlaqkat]

Then they get lured in to extreme hate groups. We need to have debates and discussions in middle and high school.

[@bleedorange1998]

The entire point of history class is not only to educate the next generation on the history of our nation, but more importantly to teach them the lessons of the horrible mistakes this country has made so that they can learn and grow to know not to make those same mistakes again. So, yes, it IS going to get uncomfortable, but what history of any country is “comfortable”?

[@qvintuse.urvind7002]

I reckon the history of Crybaby Racist Thugs (White Supremacists & MAGA morons), when thinking they aren't racist, while spouting racist thoughts and teaching their kids completely made up history, ignoring racism, is probably a comfort for them.

[@MightyMewtron]

the trick is that so many of these lawmakers WANT to repeat the same "mistakes" again, or at least not have us recognize the mistakes we're still making. (some of which are less mistakes and more very deliberate decisions)

[@jackster9775]

The tribes of the Indigenous Americans can actually find a few peaceful periods.

[@lobbyskids2]

@@jackster9775possibly but some of the things they did to each other were unspeakable. You wouldn’t want to judge their entire culture on that though which is what critical race theory aims to do.

[@jackster9775]

@@lobbyskids2 no you don’t understand that our entire culture is the systematic attacking of POC.

[@KielFisher]

"Kids have questions ... and they deserve good answers" is a lesson a *lot* more adults could stand to learn...

[@richardcranium7692]

For most things except CRT I agree.

[@waleuska]

@@richardcranium7692 Who is teaching you CRT?

[@ChristoverMarxfortheWin]

My kids want to know why CRT is used to brain wash them in public schools into hating themselves and hating the USA.

[@dariocarraresi1823]

@@ChristoverMarxfortheWin Ask them what is CRT, and I'm gonna tell you if it is taught in elementary/middle schools or not.

[@ChristoverMarxfortheWin]

@@dariocarraresi1823Black people good and perfect. White people still slavers. It is just hate speech repackaged for a new Marxism by the new marxists. "That is because the leading proponent of critical race theory, law professor Kimberlé Crenshaw, is a self-described Marxist, and critical race theory does focus on class divisions within our society."

[@filipandersson]

I remember watching a documentary about the holocaust where they showed real footage of corpses being thrown into a mass grave by soldiers. I think some of my classmates cried at that scene. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch, but to me, it was that documentary that drove home just how terrible the holocaust was. Banning that kind of material from schools just seems like an awful, or even dangerous idea.

[@googiegress]

You're right. But imagine for a second that a racist old white guy has been able to indoctrinate kids for generations in public school, and now CRT steps in and says they get to learn about racism so maybe they won't be so racist. Racist old white guy is going to be keen on banning everything to double down on it. Plus, maybe then there'll be classroom time for mandatory Christian prayers. When you recognize just how bad conservatives are in America, all the vile things that keep happening start to make sense.

[@filipandersson]

@@googiegress yeah, I know why they want to ban CRT, I just felt the need to express why I disagree with it.

[@lakoncers13]

@@googiegress I never had a racist old white guy teacher ever in public school. In fact between k-12 I only ever even had like 6 male teachers and only 3 or 4 of them were white, none of them were old men and none of them were racist. In fact these days its mostly liberal talking points indoctrinating kids in schools and the number of conservative teachers is less than 30% at most. Especially since teachers unions are all democrat. I never once in my life was taught ANYTHING about christian prayers or teachings ever in school, but was taught all kinds of things about racism and how it was bad and how it absolutely existed and how it needed to change. I really love to know if anything you said comes from actual real life experience dealing with anything you said about those evil conservatives, or just what you hear on Twitter and on liberal news outlets filled with people who only get their perspective from one talking point. to quote south park. basically farting in your wine glass and then bringing it to your nose to smell your own shit.

[@maresam3910]

Can I ask how old you were when they started giving history classes about it?

[@dm1972]

We learn about all this stuff already in american schools lol.

[@brianr6651]

I went to public school in a majority white district and my teachers were very upfront about our countries history. And yknow what? We were ok. We survived learning about the past. It ain’t the end of the world. We aren’t those people, all we can do is be better, more empathetic, compassionate and caring. Ignoring history has grave consequences

[@tracyavent-costanza346]

we are still living in the echoes of the past. it's true we didn't create those conditions but we can do something about not perpetuating the tendency to avoid the topic.

[@GhostSal]

No one is saying don’t teach history, that’s just a straw man argument. CRT has its foundation with Derek Bell and is inspired by ideas from the Błack Power movement of the 1960s and 1970s. CRT teaches to no longer see people as individuals but to see people as separate group identities. Assigning positive or negative traits based solely upon these group (groups based on skín color and perceived racíal identity). When anyone claims CRT isn’t being taught in-K-12, that’s semantícs… Because while the entire program isn’t, that doesn’t mean elements of it aren’t. History is being taught in schools and it shouldn’t be watered down. If anything we tend to overlook the suffering of many others across the world and tens of thousands of years of slavery (not just hundreds of years). The segregated mindset CRT promotes is worse than most people realize, the beliefs below come from some of the supporters of CRT and people on the łeft (not people on the ríght or independents). Which again is something many won’t even acknowledge is a problem from the very same supporters of CRT. With thinking from CRT/BŁM supporters like… “Whíte privilegé” “Check your prívilege” All of one race “can’t be racíst” All of the other race is racíst “Melanin makes us strong/superíor, lack of melanin makes you inferíor.” “We are not the same” - comes from a belief of genetic superioríty. Caucasíans are descended from animals and Błack people are not (Błack people are the only true humans). There are extremists on the right and left, both are a serious problem. The thing is the extremists on the left are growing, driving media narratives and responsible for driving further division. All this us versus them cannot ever lead to “we”.

[@corabevill-thomas4632]

@@GhostSal That is not what CRT teaches! There is way too much information available to make you aware of what CRT teaches and what it doesn't.

[@GhostSal]

@@corabevill-thomas4632 Yes it is what CRT and supporters teach. Wøke supporters and CRT is teaching to see skin color, to not see individuals but instead people as separate groups. Where everyone from one race are always “privileged” (even the homeless, no matter how hard their life has been), can’t voice opinions (unless you agree completely) or you are told “your privilege is showing”. When someone claims CRT isn’t being taught in-K-12, that’s semantícs… Because while the entire program isn’t, that doesn’t mean elements of it aren’t. History is being taught in schools and it shouldn’t be watered down. If anything we tend to overlook the suffering of many others across the world and tens of thousands of years of slavery (not just hundreds of years). The segregated mindset CRT promotes is worse than most people realize Here are just a few examples: A Cupertino, California, elementary school forced third-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities, then rank themselves according to their “power and privilege.” They separated the eight-year-old children into oppressors and oppressed. A middle school in Springfield, Missouri, forced teachers to locate themselves on an “oppression matrix,” claiming that white heterosexual Protestant males are inherently oppressors and must atone for their “covert white supremacy.” The Arizona Department of Education created an “equity” toolkit claiming that babies show the first signs of racism at three months old and that white children become full racists-”strongly biased in favor of whiteness”-by age five. The California Department of Education passed an “ethnic studies” curriculum that calls for the “decolonization” of American society. The principal of East Side Community School in New York sent white parents a “tool for action,” which tells them they must become “white traitors” and then advocate for full “white abolition.” A Department of Education-funded conference advocated for “abolition” of American institutions and told whites they must “give up” their “wealth.” How about employers? The Treasury Department told employees that “all white people” are racist and that children become racist by 3 months The Department of Homeland Security told its white employees that they have been “socialized into oppressor roles.” The State Department, EPA, and VA pressured staff to denounce their “white privilege,” become “co-resistors” against “systemic racism,” and sign “equity pledges.” Lockheed Martin, the nation’s largest defense contractor, sent key executives on a mission to deconstruct their “white male privilege” and encouraged them to atone for their “white male privilege.” Raytheon, the nation’s second-largest defense contractor, has launched a critical race theory program that encourages white employees to confront their “privilege,” reject the principle of “equality,” and to endorse the “defund the police” movement. Walmart’s training program tells employees that they are guilty of “internalized racial superiority.” A recent survey found that 1 in 6 hiring managers was asked not to hire whîte males. According to a survey published by Resume Builder. Also, about half of all employers have openly admitted to prioritizing all other races over whîte males, putting “qualificatîons” as a secondary priority. This is just the short list and links to much of what I referenced are available on Christopher Rufo’s official site.

[@katherinejones8022]

EXACTLY!! Learn about it & commit to rights & safety & integrity for ALL, got that GQP MAGA? ALL! F your BS hypocrisy of christianity! Jesus would be embarrassed by you.

[@evenberg8499]

I watched the movie "The wave" (1981) at school when I was a teenager, and it really made me think how easy it is to brainwash people into discrimination.

[@cadenvanvalkenburg6718]

My middle school teacher showed my class that to make a point about how easy it is to radicalize people while they think they are in the right the whole way down

[@toritori5835]

I remember that. ABC After School Special, right? That ending really impacted me as a kid where all the students finally get to meet the leader (whose identity was a secret) and the teacher shows them a movie of Hitler.

[@justathought7221]

I bring up that book all the time. It’s valid!!

[@daisyd90]

I've thought of that movie so many times the past few years.

[@seanmolloy6188]

Don't forget that movie was made about something that really happened

[@geekgirl_luv4262]

If you’re not uncomfortable in history class you’re probably doing it wrong. A lot of history IS uncomfortable, but it’s still important to know.

[@GhostSal]

No one is saying don’t teach history. CRT has its foundation with Derek Bell and is inspired by ideas from the Błack Power movement of the 1960s and 1970s. CRT teaches to no longer see people as individuals but to see people as separate group identities. Assigning positive or negative traits based solely upon these group (groups based on skín color and perceived racíal identity). When anyone claims CRT isn’t being taught in-K-12, that-semantícs… Because while the entire program isn’t, that doesn’t mean elements of it aren’t. History is being taught in schools and it shouldn’t be watered down. If anything we tend to overlook the suffering of many others across the world and tens of thousands of years of slavery (not just hundreds of years). The segregated mindset CRT promotes is worse than most people realize, the beliefs below come from some of the supporters of CRT and people on the łeft (not people on the ríght or independents). Which again is something many won’t even acknowledge is a problem from the very same supporters of CRT. With thinking from CRT/BŁM supporters like… “Whíte privilegé” “Check your prívilege” All of one race “can’t be racíst” All of the other race is racíst “Melanin makes us strong/superíor, lack of melanin makes you inferíor.” “We are not the same” - comes from a belief of genetic superioríty. Caucasíans are descended from animals and Błack people are not (Błack people are the only true humans). There are extremists on the right and left, both are a serious problem. The thing is the extremists on the left are growing, driving media narratives and responsible for driving further division. All this us versus them cannot ever lead to “we”. How about some real world examples from supporters of CRT/BŁM? A Cupertino, California, elementary school forced third-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities, then rank themselves according to their “power and privilege.” They separated the eight-year-old children into oppressors and oppressed. A middle school in Springfield, Missouri, forced teachers to locate themselves on an “oppression matrix,” claiming that white heterosexual Protestant males are inherently oppressors and must atone for their “covert white supremacy.” The Arizona Department of Education created an “equity” toolkit claiming that babies show the first signs of racism at three months old and that white children become full racists-”strongly biased in favor of whiteness”-by age five. The California Department of Education passed an “ethnic studies” curriculum that calls for the “decolonization” of American society. The principal of East Side Community School in New York sent white parents a “tool for action,” which tells them they must become “white traitors” and then advocate for full “white abolition.” How about employers? The Treasury Department told employees that “all white people” are racist and that children become racist by 3 months A Department of Education-funded conference advocated for “abolition” of American institutions and told whites they must “give up” their “wealth.” The Department of Homeland Security told its white employees that they have been “socialized into oppressor roles.” The State Department, EPA, and VA pressured staff to denounce their “white privilege,” become “co-resistors” against “systemic racism,” and sign “equity pledges.” Lockheed Martin, the nation’s largest defense contractor, sent key executives on a mission to deconstruct their “white male privilege” and encouraged them to atone for their “white male privilege.” Raytheon, the nation’s second-largest defense contractor, has launched a critical race theory program that encourages white employees to confront their “privilege,” reject the principle of “equality,” and to endorse the “defund the police” movement. Walmart’s training program tells employees that they are guilty of “internalized racial superiority.” * Many of the above examples with links are on Mr Chris Rufo’s site.

[@ronaldnixon8226]

@@GhostSal But them drag queen's is tryina read a book about "Crtitcal Race Theory" to my kid's!

[@GhostSal]

@@ronaldnixon8226 That’s your rebuttal? No one is saying don’t teach history and teach it as unbiasedly as possible (with facts). CRT isn’t a history lesson, it’s objective is to divide all people today into two different groups (øppressed and oppressør). I’ve already explained this and gave specifics as to how this is being implemented. Let’s look over some statements CRT/BŁM supporters have actually made and see what their objective really is. “The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” - Ibram Kendi “Błack people can’t be racíst.” - Michael Eric Dyson (no matter what act of racíal hatrèd and víolence is commítted). “We believe that so long as the white race exists, all movements against what is called ‘racism’ will fail. Therefore, our aim is to abolish the white race.” - Noel Ignatiev “If you abolish slavery, you abolish slaveholders. If you want to abolish racial oppression, you do away with whiteness.” - Noel Ignatiev The Isis Papers, Frances Welsing described whíte people as the genetically defective descendants of “albino mutants” She wrote that due to this "defective" mutatíon, they may have been forcíbly expelled from Afríca. She also promoted the belief that “melanin” made błack people superior to whíte people. Keep in mind his isn’t what I have said they want, these are CRT/BLM supporters own words and we should believe that they mean what they say. People don’t want chíldren being taught to separate each other today by racè. People don’t want kíds assigning group traits to individuals and instead they want kíds to see each other as the individuals they are. This used to be a mainstream view and not just a conservatíve view.

[@ronaldnixon8226]

@@GhostSal Obama cain't force my kid's to study none a that Hogwash!

[@GrimmJaw671]

@@GhostSal You're confusing CRT bud. You should really go back to law school if you didn't graduate.

[@protectedlands2869]

Thank you for showing MLK in a color video. The constant use of black and white imagery of the Civil Rights Movement really seems like an attempt to make that time feel like the distant past when, in reality, a lot of our parents were around to witness it and feel it’s effects.

[@StevenFox80]

I've always wondered why he's always depicted in black and white, when color TV had been a thing for years at that point.

[@nooberNXC]

He and Anne Frank were born on the same day. That's part of how it seems "they're so far back in the past."

[@diosrobinson4748]

@@nooberNXC insane fact I didn’t know

[@MRCAB]

Or maybe it’s because the most famous films of the man were shot in black and white…

[@nickjacobs8507]

Those darn racist cameras

[@AstralPhnx]

"absolute trombone slide of a sentence" will live rent free in my head for the rest of my life

[@lesliewolfe7643]

Omg me too. I actually created a clip of it so I can enjoy it whenever I so desire 🙂

[@alexiscreates]

That woman said she doesn't judge people based on their skin color, only for the next thing to come out of her mouth was confirm her judgmental behavior. Judging someone based on how they dress is judging someone based on what they look like. What an idiot. She didn't even realize what she was saying. None of these people want to feel like they're bad people so they think just ignoring the problem and putting themselves on a pedestal is the solution. Good job John Oliver and team!

[@Greg-yu4ij]

I grew up in a non racist america and now everyone hates everyone else. Now we have teachers teaching the marxist playbook. We are falling to a marxist takeover and our birth rate is collapsing

[@manuelschneider1105]

I would have to slightly disagree. People's skin color isn't something they chose. Their behavior, the way they act, and the way they dress, is a choice. Judging people on things they can't change is wrong, but judging them for things they choose and they can change, is kinda fair game.

[@shipyufrenchsong]

​@@manuelschneider1105Except that "how someone acts" and "how someone dresses" are too vague of terms. *Some* of the ways people act and dress are personal choices but many of the ways we act and dress are products of our culture or personal circumstance. Judging someone for the act of spitting on the ground? Perfectly fine. Judging someone for the act of using their hands to emphasize speech? That's rude. Judging someone for wearing shorts in winter. Perfectly fine. Judging someone for wearing culturally specific clothes/clothing styles? Makes you an asshole.

[@purplecat1691]

​​@@manuelschneider1105 yeah cause things like income, culture and social status totally dont influence the way someole might dress.

[@LusciousTwinkle]

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. ou CHOOSE clothes. You dont choose SKIN COLOUR!!!!

[@bridgetofold5645]

I am a Veteran and I have always believed that knowing and recognizing the darkest part of history and still be willing to put your life on the line for the idea of better is actually the most patriotic you can be.

[@jackhammer3423]

Problem is tho that it isn't just historical info being fed to these kids..that's just how they are trying to sell it

[@byanymeansnecessary9329]

Military doesn't protect anyone or make anything better, you are just a pawn to steal the resources from other countries. You are adding to the problem of amerikkkan white supremacy, not helping fix it.

[@joshuaohuka7719]

Dear Lawd... That was trophy worthy for it's insightfulness... Well said....👏🏾

[@LinkMcStink]

People pushing CRT act like kids are being fed a whitewashed fairytale version of history when in reality, that's what they themselves are pushing. CRT is predicated on the notion that you're either a victim or an oppressor & the only was to attain true equality is to magically elevate the former up to the latter.

[@jaykanta4326]

@@jackhammer3423 WTF is wrong with you? Is it just the lack of an education?

[@pianopolly]

I find it funny that there is apparently a large cross-section between the group of people who like to ban certain books and teachings because it makes them feel bad and the group of people who argue that "facts don't care about your feelings".

[@anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023]

Schools are not free marketplaces of ideas. Theres only a limited amount of time at your disposal, you cant teach children about every ideology, every viewpoint that has ever existed and let them read every book in existence. You need to make a choice of what to teach and not choosing something isnt the same as banning it. Of course Im referring to people who want to eliminate certain things from the school curriculum, not those who want to ouright ban a book, thats a different story.

[@BlindErephon]

@@anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023 These are also the same people who banned Maus. Because its totally worth banning a graphic novel about the experiences of a Holocaust survivor if it has some swears or, God forbid, discusses sex.

[@lochnessmonsta2981]

Crt isnt a fact. It is a point of view to look back at history and nothing more. Points of view are not fact, comrade.

[@gavinwilson5324]

@@lochnessmonsta2981 No one said crt was fact. It is in fact a viewpoint. However, the fact that people are trying to ban it is a facet of the overall issue of those people trying to cover up what the viewpoint is looking at.

[@WMDistraction]

Don’t have to care about the facts hurting your feelings if you effectively stop them from existing!

[@minecrafter0505]

As a German this discussion concerns me greatly. After WW2 the allies built an education system here where we learn a lot about the time between 1933 and 1945. Most schools will do a trip to concentration camps teaching children about the atrocities committed there. We learn a lot about that time and how wrong it was. And even with that we still have way too many racists here. But most people will completely avoid national pride. Our flags are only displayed by residents when there is some sport event (mainly soccer). Being proud of the achievements your nation has achieved will inevitably lead to accepting the current way things are because, after all, you're proud of yourselves. But not being proud will motivate to become better. The US' focus on national pride is something that stands in the way of major reform. It is hard to be proud of a country that is doing so much wrong right now. And you can't teach critically of a nation and at the same time make kids pledge allegiance to the flag of that nation. Hypocracy is one of these things that will make a child stop listening to you. National pride may have been useful in the past to rally support for your side in a war but in my opinion it has no place in our modern society. The first step towards reform is accepting that something is wrong.

[@hansrama3485]

well said

[@katherinezimmerman6997]

You can be proud of your country and still strive to improve it. They’re not mutually exclusive concepts. Your comment here is exactly the reason that people are freaking out and misinterpreting discussions of systemic racism (that and listening to nonsense on Fox). America is a constant work in progress. Fixing the current problems that stem from the bad elements of our past (redlining, inequality, systemic bias, etc) doesn’t mean we can’t celebrate the elements of our past that are worthy of pride (independence, emancipation, the space program, inventions, and, y’know, *beating the Nazis*). True pride in one’s country includes acknowledging its shortcomings and striving to improve it. Acting like people waving flags is somehow the root cause of societal problems is stunningly ignorant.

[@J4CKWR4TH]

You fucking started that rant with "as a German..." lololol Why don't you point to a success and not your status quo before giving advice. Germany is no beacon of culture nor prosperity and I feel its only right you accept responsibility for your own feelings about your own country and stop blaming "americans" cuz that's just you looking to blame or look down on anyone else. Sterilizing your youth with fear of your past has done such wonderous things as........as.......... exactly. It's how you do it because your fucking riot ass country in particular couldn't stop trying to be the most racist, fascist humans that our species ever produced. What works for you doesn't work for everyone and it is super super super ignorant to call other people ignorant for not doing things your way while making no attempt to understand why they do what they do.

[@MisstressMourtisha]

Have you watched "hellstorm " on byte chute? That movie really painted the whole picture.

[@SynergistN7]

Well said. You'll get a lot of hate for this though, cause pointing out how American nationalism is holding America back is generally a direct hit to the indoctrinated nerve.

[@MiguelHernandez-tz4ml]

And week after week these same individuals will go to church and be told how inherently sinful they are and nobody jumps up and says "you need to stop teaching critical sin theory. You are making our congregation feel like Catholics"....

[@StrawberryShortcake12335]

That’s the “beauty” for Salvation by Faith alone. It doesn’t matter if they are sinful. 😢

[@SeasideDetective2]

Yes, it IS bizarre. The same people who believe we shouldn't feel guilty about our ancestors owning slaves are the ones who tell us we need to feel guilty about our ancestors eating an apple.

[@megafr8nk]

I am a german. When I was 12 I visited Israel with my family. A very kind elderly taxi driver picked us up from the airport and started small talk with us in exellent german. When we asked him were he had learned to speak german so well he replied 'during the war'. The light mood in the taxi instantly changed and we all fell silent. I remember vividly the discomfort I felt that day. My point is this: Some discomfort is meant to be felt.

[@bri665]

Fantastic story, thank you for sharing.

[@evanhaskel206]

Exactly. If learning history only fills you with pride then you’re not really learning history.

[@batsonstevens4009]

This clearly went over my head I'm so confused.

[@PepsiV8Chix]

@@batsonstevens4009 Their taxi driver was Jewish

[@capencire6090]

why should you feel discomfort for a war you didn't participate in?

[@domenicpapa6181]

I am an Australian in my 60's. When I was little I remember hearing conversations from grandparents about our First Nation people and how they where dying out and would soon be gone. Then at school over the years we learnt more and more about how they where treated by white people. We where taught about the attempted genocide to be honest. To get to the point, knowing our history and understanding how we treated our First nation people did not make me ashamed of being white. There is nothing I can do about the colour of my skin. What it has given me is knowledge and understanding. I can see how I have benefited from what we took from them. It is a waste of time feeling guilty about it. But what I can do is take this knowledge and use my voice, my actions, to ensure that there is some remedy, some equalizations made to ensure that they no longer suffer from the abuse we delt upon them.

[@AlitheaJ]

So what have you done for the indigenous australians? Tangible and impactful actions have you made? Other than just knowing the history. genuine question

[@domenicpapa6181]

@@AlitheaJ That is a frightening question. What can I do? I do what little I can. I attend rallies, sign petitions and talk to people. That's the frightening part of this question is just how helpless one can feel when it comes to issues like this. So all I can do in my small way is help make people aware of the issues, aware of the past and hopefully changing opinions as I go. So in all honesty I would say I have done very little. I can only hope my very little when added to more and more very littles can add up to something.

[@danwilley3911]

🙏 white guy to white guy, right on man! It's a drag we all had to learn this way but, more and more people are learning to just let each other BE! ✌

[@M.L.official]

Actually there is something you can do. You can leave this country and give everything to the aboriginals. There is nothing wrong with not doing that since the burden doesn't fall on you as you werent responsible with what happened 250 or so years ago. However this also means that you lose all rights to virtue signal about this topic. So choose wisely I guess

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@AlitheaJ CRT is used as such a Boogyman, i dont even f-ing know what it's exactly about, cause everyone's just yelling - ya know, how healthy, mature Adults? But what i do know cause it's objective fact is that teaching Children that Systemic Racism is a Word and Words have Meaning, so this Word also has Meaning, cant possibly be Wrong. 'It's fighting Racism with Racism' is literal Idiocy and just a phrasing-with-agenda-behind-it. It's just the same good old 'Re-phrase things'-Strategy all over again, just like Flat-Earthers yelling 'Globeheads!'.

[@fireyjon]

"when was learning and growing as a person ever really comfortable" is by and far the most honest thing I ever heard

[@anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023]

Yes we know the fat acceptance movement, censorship campaigns against "cyber bullying" (when all you have to do is literally close your eyes or turn off your computer/mobile phone), censorship campaigns against "hate speech" and the promotion of safe spaces can all be attributed to evil conservatves. Fortunately the left will always ensure people will be feeling uncomfortable.

[@baileypratt185]

You can’t learn and grow if you’re paying for original sin in a death camp!

[@colemanbrenner6555]

@@priapulida yeah by learning about harm (like historical prejudice), self-reflecting, and using what we learned to not repeat it.

[@danilicious2308]

@@priapulida this coming from the "German" who claimed that CRT is the same as the holocaust. Talk about being a sociopath with dishonest arguments...

[@anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023]

@@Atheismisbased If those are all "meaningless culture wars", as you say, why dont you just stop fighting them and let the conservatives win? Just abandon the battlefield and stop fighting this petty culture war, after all there are more important issues than that. Right?

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Fun fact. I learned that, during WW2, the United States locked up US born citizens who committed no crimes simply because they were of Japanese descent...from an episode of jeopardy in my mid 20s. Not in a classroom. One would think we should be teaching the darker parts of history if for no other reason than how accurate the whole "those who dont learn from history" saying is.

[@samuelschmitz186]

George Takei (Hikaru Sulu from the Star Trek franchise) was in one of the Japanese internments camps as a child. He wrote a graphic novel about his experiences with his family called "They Called Us Enemy".

[@DaveZeichner]

Just one example of what fear and ignorance can do.

[@kainenr]

I'm sorry you didn't pay attention in school i guess. I learned that 20 years ago in school in a small town in tn

[@StanViviLee]

​@@kainenr just because you learnt it doesn't mean the op didn't. You just watched a video showing issues of book ban and educational control cropping up in the country and it not being a federal issue yet. How the fuck then do you go ahead and assume the op was not attentive in class? What the fuck does a small place have to do with anything? Curb your ignorance.

[@randallbesch2424]

@@DaveZeichner manipulated human psychology it is so easy.

[@DLord227]

I'm an American and I live in Norway where I'm a chef. A friend who is a teacher asked for another teacher if I could come in and discuss with 2 classes (10th grade) about a book they just finished reading The Hate U Give. These kids wanted to learn about the history of why things happened in the book. Especially the reason behind the killing of Emmitt Till. they couldn't grasp that he was killed for whistling at a woman and when i told them that woman who accused Till admitted to lying about it. The look of shock and horror on their faces was telling and it even made me emotional to see it. Then they asked about a number of issues. The kids enjoyed it and thanked me for teaching them. But it was a great day for me too. In my head I'm thinking there's no way I could do this in a school in the US. The kids even asked the teacher if I can come back and I will be helping them with English and have more talks.

[@tuckerbugeater]

The problem is that too many whites believe the rest of the world thinks like them.

[@thewaffle003]

That's so cool. I had to do a report on Emmett Till in the fifth grade :(

[@MrFlatage]

You have a passport that says 'American'? Stop the BS comrade. Who are you really?

[@DLord227]

@@MrFlatage It doesn't say American but the giant American flag on the first page is a definite clue. Borscht Brotha

[@danilicious2308]

@@tuckerbugeater your name contains puppet and indeed, you argue like a Muppet. Racist your comment is, nobody needs shit like this.

[@brittabuender9954]

One lesson from school I remember best is when our history teacher read us excerpts of what happened at concentration camps. We were all horrified. I remember how unusually quiet it was. No one talked, no one did anything. The only sound was the voice of the teacher telling us about the worst things humans are capable of. We weren't comfortable. But it was essential, because Never Again

[@ericktellez7632]

Never again until like 3 years ago, throwing kids into cages and camps in the border.

[@MarcLucksch]

German Schooling in a nutshell. I was very annoyed going through it, but man, these days it feels like it was and is required.

[@baileypratt185]

Wait until what’s left of you and ur family are locked away at the fun covid deaded camps! Plenty of juice to stick u with there. Remember, history is doomed to repeat itself when you forget!!

[@Brian-tn4cd]

People need to understand that that bitter pill is needed to make a better society, because then people will just forget or ignore all the horrible things humanity has done in the past

[@adrianaheiler9794]

@@MarcLucksch sama here Marc, as a German kid you kind of start rolling your eyes when you have to repeat it each and every school year. But now I see what's happening in the US and suddenly the little light bulb goes on and I think 'OH, that's why they were hammering it into our heads so much!'

[@dontmatter966]

I remember my sophomore and junior year history teachers being real about history. If you aren't made uncomfortable you're doing it wrong. History is cool, but it's also icky

[@grumpycat2092]

Absolutely. And I think, if someones patriotism makes them feel too uncomfortable to talk about the shit thats going on or was going on in their country, maybe they should take a step back with their patriotism, bc it is not healthy... Feeling uncomfortable is normal.But feelingso uncomfortable, that you just want to erase proof of what happened from the records, is clearly not.

[@chinchillin2262]

I remember my AP US History teacher telling us to get the book Lies My Teacher Told Me and he prepared us for the AP exam questions that you had to answer wrong to get right (eg. The civil war was about ... He'd tell us the answer is slavery but you have to select states rights if you want credit for it on the test) seriously disturbing but I was thankful he was honest with us and didn't want us limited to curriculum and devoid of truth.

[@mrwilson7617]

Look up how Hawaii became a state. I didn't learn it till I watched how on cable TV 40 years after I graduated HS.

[@Arjun0905]

Look no further than Japan to see where not feeling uncomfortable during history class takes you. I asked my teacher about a topic that was on the news at the time to further understand and he said "ok, maybe later".

[@slevinchannel7589]

CRT is surrounded by Myths and made out to be a Boogeyman, so you may wanna double- and triple-check what you know/believe about it. BUT WHATEVER. Honestly, more on my mind: Have you seen 'The Past, Present, And Future Of Work - SOME MORE NEWS'? I was surpirsed just how much 'for the average Person' and how 'universal' this video is. Legit: who cares what political Orientation this guy has? His videos about Work and Unions and also Inflation are Universal.

[@danniethomas1]

Tennessean progressive here- Honestly, the best TN perspectives only come from teachers and nurses. You know...people who actually deal with people.

[@KevinKolpack]

Back in high school, one of our U.S. history classes taught about the old boarding schools where Native American kids were forcibly "assimilated" into white American culture through violence. Did I feel uncomfortable, as a white kid? Heck yes, just like I get uncomfortable watching true crime shows, reading about black lynchings, or learning about Nazi death camps. Was I made to feel guilty or responsible for these horrible schools? Not in the slightest. And I'm glad I learned about them. We can't become a better society if we don't examine the mistakes of the past and discuss why they were wrong in the first place.

[@B_Bodziak]

CRT isn't even thought in K-12 schools. It's only ever been taught in a few law schools.

[@felwinter7883]

@@B_Bodziak that has been disproven tenfold.

[@susanrolstad9338]

Well said... our 3rd grade history class was mostly native American history. It was well balanced. But we need to know why and how it happened! I think the more we know the better our children will be. They are there to present our children with the facts even if offends a race. The truth is the truth and it should be part of history

[@Chaoitcme]

@@felwinter7883 Have any sources to back up your claim?

[@felwinter7883]

@@Chaoitcme it's called the Internet, you're literally using it right now.

[@chetmcgovern9985]

I'm an old school nerd, when people started shouting about CRT, I thought they were mad about those big old monitors

[@andrewedris2800]

For the rest: CRT also means Cathode Ray Tubes or the non-flat tv screens before flat tv screens.

[@beangobernador]

bruhhh

[@jansecj9472]

lmao, same here

[@jimrussell670]

You down with RGB...ya you know me!

[@cameronsitton501]

@@jimrussell670 Ruth Gader Binsburg?

[@sophiasumaray3492]

When I was a senior in high school, my Catholic school fired my favorite teacher for teaching about the history of Indigenous peoples. She asked me a couple of weeks earlier if I wanted to learn about Filipino-Americans later in the semester (I’m a first-gen Filipino, for context) and I excitedly told my family that I was so happy that I was going to learn more about my identity. I cried for weeks, along with my BIPOC classmates, because the opportunity to learn about ourselves and other historically silenced communities had been stolen from us-it felt like our stories didn’t matter. I think about her a lot today, and I now learn extensively about ethnic studies in college. My heart aches for those students who will have to go through the same thing my classmates and I did. Learning about yourself from the white man’s P.O.V for your entire life is dehumanizing. Thank you for bringing awareness to this.

[@Chas-OTE]

A gentle reminder that we were pretty much a US "territory" (colony) from 1898, when they bought us from Spain for $20 million, to July 4th, 1946. PS: I wanted to edit my previous comment to add dates but accidentally deleted it...

[@dragonsword7370]

I'm not surprised the catholic administrators did that. There are mass graves Full of unmarked indigenous children and mothers bodies interred because of the church doing things their way. Whether for ideology, profit, racism or a mix of these combined.

[@michaelechavez6407]

I’m glad I’m in a college with a Filipino club to learn about my culture, but it sucks only learning about the Philippines when Spain’s colonization, US colonization, and WWII.

[@dat2ra]

Chances are they weren't fired for what they taught you, but for what part of the curriculum they did not teach in its stead.

[@alejandrogallardo4955]

WTF? Girl your ancestry its catholic...., what white mans POV? do you know that nowadays each country produces his own history, but for the last 70 years English historians have been the most influential ones. The spaniards mixed with everything we ve seen, the spanish under a catholic premise give the citzenship, his ways and religion to the natives, building universities, auto governance, made them richer, they were in the court of the King, Almirants, Co-Kings... you name it, if your teacher read you in history you should know better. Ethnic Studies are racist by category. Check the numbers on the inquisition and check the numbers for the same religious faults in the Luteran- Protestant world.

[@zerowatts5484]

I love that John called out “when was learning and growing as a person ever really comfortable.” I can only hope he keeps true to that narrative when discussing other topics.

[@juliebraden6911]

🙄

[@isisnmagic1812]

​@@juliebraden6911guess you've only seen just one John Oliver episode, go look at him deal with other subjects and you'll see he does.

[@rodyaraskolnikov7864]

I had a 6th grade teacher (in Canada) who spent a year talking about discrimination and tolerance, the history of segregation /slavery in North America, different cultures, and the struggles experienced by people of colour, blind/deaf people, mentally challenged people, physically handicapped people etc. She even brought people in to explain the struggles they go through on the daily etc and invited teachers to come in when they went on vacation and tell us about their trip and the different cultures/experiences. I credit her with the fact that all of those kids became nice, tolerant and curious people despite coming from a bad neighbourhood and poor circumstances.

[@jhonklan3794]

Except you have no evidence to back such statements up. Simply anecdotes. Academia needs to be founded on empiricism.

[@tysonkauth7232]

@@peterb5235 it's not lumping them in with disabled people, skin color is not a disability. It's giving examples of people that are discriminated against.

[@tysonkauth7232]

@@peterb5235 no it doesn't. It merely shows that all manners of people are discriminated against. It's a wise lesson from the teacher, to show that discrimination comes in a lot of different forms, and learning empathy towards those discriminated against will make those students better at recognizing it in the future. It in no way insinuates that skin color is a disability.

[@jessehachey2732]

@@peterb5235 The irony, as your comment is deeply offensive and ignorant of people with disabilities, many of whom do not “suffer”…🤦🏼‍♂️🙄 SMFH. That’s ableism at its finest - and you can’t even see your own bigotry as you criticize others of the same 🥴

[@jessehachey2732]

@@tysonkauth7232 Exactly. And Peter here makes odd assumptions about people living with disabilities too, his disdain for skin colour being lumped in speaks friggen volumes about what he really thinks about people with disabilities SMFH.

[@Decadentotter]

Man all I remember about talking about race and modern racism was spending the last week of high school history class speeding through the modern chapters. It was almost literally summarized as Dr. King solved all racism and 911 happened.

[@R_A_3000]

Yeah that makes sense especially if you went to school down south.

[@Decadentotter]

@@R_A_3000 I didn't. I went to a school in the north east

[@R_A_3000]

@@Decadentotter Oh wow that's crazy because I went to school in the NE too. But my school didn't sugar coat it to us.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

Race is important but America needs to get over it because China and Russia are manipulating that hatred and playing the US like a perfectly tuned recorder. The more social divisions America has, the more domestic strife there is, the less likely the US will have a unified front against China/Russia forign aggression. Do you know how bigoted and xenophobic China is? It's insane. It's a monoculture and looks at other races and subordinate. They use the Uighurs as slave labour and harvest their organs for fuck's sake! The Han are the dominant race and view ANYone who isn't Han as inferior. Shall we not complain about China, despite it's egregious racial inequality because our own house is not in order? But by comparison, America is racially harmonious if we judge China with the same standards. Calling this 'whataboutism' is a weak deflection of cultural moral equivalence. We're all human and we've learned that denying someone their freedom better be for a good reason, and China has yet to learn that lesson. Yet they're the ones who help fund corporate American media into pushing racially divisive narratives. TL;DR--stop talking about race because it's holding America back and is part of the CCP's plan to socially divide the US. Or, if we continue to fixate on race, point the tip of the sword of justice to where it's needed most: China. For it is there where a genocide is currently taking place. Or to India, North Korea, or Nigeria where modern slavery still exists. America, by comparison, is pristine despite its sordid history.

[@CadDriftarus]

@@R_A_3000 I got real lucky woth my Texas history classes. We thankfully spent more time on Civil Rights and Slavery, however it was still a pretty truncated experience as far as I remember. We also spent a whole Nine Weeks studying Multiple Schlerosis instead of history for some reason, which is an important subject, but why did we waste an entire quarter on it?

[@k.k.2157]

As an Italian, history is a tough and discomfortable subject, but discomfort is a necessary aspect of the learning process and it's only by embracing it that we get to know our past, our history with all its sad and unpleasant truths. After all, history is not about celebrating ourselves, it's about learning about ourselves.

[@GhostSal]

I agree, CRT is that really about history? That aside, what do you know of what Italians went through in the US? As a Sicilian myself, I’m curious what you know.

[@jimwitt21]

Try being British! We teach history, but don't talk about the opium wars, our role in the American civil war, the Irish Famine, the devolved nations getting forced into Union, the East India Trading Company, Suez Canal, Churchill sending the army to shoot Welsh miners, Kenya, Windrush.....

[@valdurion6779]

It's only tough when the teacher is peddling the wrong interpretation to make modern day people who had nothing to do with anything feel bad. Why don't they teach people that black slavers caught and sold the slaves ever? That's why people are against CRT, biased view points that are 'uncomfortable'

[@Free.Clear3802]

@valdurian I'm so sure that is the exact reason. I've heard and read a plethora of court and government officials, politicians, parents and saying that is the reason they are opposed to teaching ANYTHING they don't like. Bull! As a descendant of slaves, freemen, and white Europeans I can say we know that African tribes sold other members of opposing African tribes. It was taught. Maybe not where you are from? That's not the issue. The issue is people don't want to teach any of it at all. How are we supposed to add that lesson and history to those courses when people are saying the courses shouldn't exist in the first place? That's like saying 'some people are allergic to peanuts, so we shouldn't show pictures, movies, books or talk about peanut butter. Ever.'

[@mobo7420]

@@valdurion6779 1) of course modern day people still have to do with the stuff back then. the discrimination of black people in the USA continues until today. kk2157 says they are Italian - and Italian voters just recently voted a neo-fascist into office. So of course the present is connected to the past. 2) of course there were black slavers in Africa, but does that excuse the white slave traders, the white slave buyers, and the white slave owners? You don't have to feel personally guilty for something you didn't do, but the segregation of black people in the USA is still happening, as you can see in the examples in the video you are commenting (e.g. the game of separating students into blue and brown eyed groups)

[@TheMelissarossi]

How can you become a better person without reflecting on your word and actions? I just don’t get why being uncomfortable is so scary to some people

[@Uruz2012]

I haven't done anything of historical significance... if you identify individuals with long past actions by people with the same skin color, you're racist.

[@emilysmith2965]

Christianity. At least in its current incarnation. People are taught - you might even say, indoctrinated - by their church that everyone is a good person whose sins are washed clean, as long as they go to confession enough. They don’t actually have to change their behavior or do good works to be “saved.” Which was a revolutionary and empowering concept for 16th-century peasants in the Holy Roman Empire when Martin Luther kickstarted the Protestant Reformation - but nearly 500 years later, that idea is casting a long, dark shadow on the way that self-professed “people of Christian faith” behave.

[@me.6953]

To add to the 'history lessons in Germany' thing this comment section has going on... When I was in 3rd grade, they took us on an excursion to a local former concentration camp, particularly infamous for medical experimentation on children, many of whom had been around our age. It was a deeply impactful visit, not despite but also BECAUSE of how deeply uncomfortable it was, because emotions often stick in our memory better than empirical facts do. Sure, it was a lot to take in at that age, but in retrospect I'm very grateful for that visit because it taught me about the horrors of the holocaust in a way no history book ever could. The banning of a book like Maus is honestly wild to me, especially with the flimsy excuses such as 'coarse language' (as if that's the issue here, srsly, wtaf) or the violence being age-inappropriate. How can you teach about something like the holocaust, or slavery for that matter, without mentioning the violence? How can you teach children the truth of the dark parts of history without causing discomfort, when that's something simply inherent in the subject matter that's supposed to be taught?

[@TheLastAngryMan01]

I read Maus as an adult and it’s a searing depiction of the Holocaust and its after effects on the survivors, depicted in terms a child could easily understand. It’s crazy that people are trying to censor it.

[@dr.vikyll7466]

99% They didn't ban it for coarse language. 100% they don't like Jews.

[@Roaming725]

I also think it's important that we learn about the atrocities so that we don't repeat them in the future. I once visited a former concentration camp/museum in Poland and I felt emotions that could never be expressed in words. Yet, I've encountered adults that deny it ever happened. We need to keep talking about these uncomfortable topics so we don't go backwards or repeat them.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

It's worth noting that being uncomfortable is one thing. When I visited Dachau when I was in high school, it was incredibly uncomfortable and mind-blowing. But, it's worth noting that it's not at all the same thing as what's being done in the US educational system where they'll pile onto that a bunch of racist lies in an effort to persecute white minority groups that may not have had anything to do with the particular issue that's being covered. My family arrived in the US after the civil war and settled into an area that was far away from any slavery, but somehow I'm supposed to be responsible and to contribute towards reparations even though for nearly that entire period, my family was dirt poor and barely any better off than the emancipated slaves. History is heavily sanitized to remove any mention of the ethnic cleansing of various white minority groups moving into the US up until the post-war period. There isn't even any meaningful acknowledgement when WWII covers up that internment camps were not Japanese only, in addition to the Chinese and other Asian groups that were close enough, there were Germans and Italians purposefully moved there, the reason why it was mostly Japanese had mainly do to with the fact that the Japanese were heavily centralized in the exclusion region and weren't as easily relocated to parts of the country not subject to the restrictions. I remember literally being told that black people now have high blood pressure because several centuries ago slaves pissed on each other on the ships they were brought to the US on. It was deeply uncomfortable to have to be the one to point out that it's bullshit. And it goes on fairly often where the schools are telling outright lies in order to inform the students that are just as racist as the racism that they're claiming to oppose. It's really disappointing that we accept this kind of bullshit. There's got to be a way that we can be opposed to neo-Nazis and the Klan without buying into the racist narrative that everything has been peachy-keen for various white groups that are all basically the same monsters that perpetuated race wars for centuries and delight in torturing and murdering people of color. I mean, they literally had to invent the idea of Hispanics in order to justify excluding various white ethnic groups from consideration. Even though Hispanic isn't even a real thing, it's a massive number of ethnicities that have basically nothing in common other than a common language.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

You ask how these things can be taught without mentioning their horrors...but that's exactly it. Regarding the Civil War, groups like the Daughters of the Confederacy gave schools history books that practically omitted slavery and rewrote that the war was just about land ownership in the south...not about the right to own slaves, as it actually is. Because it made them uncomfortable, they'd rather scrub away that it ever happened as opposed to learning from it. John mentions this in the video and now, it's happening yet again.

[@GrimmDelightsDice]

Listening to later interviews from Dr. King is honestly heartbreaking. You can see how tired he was, how he was trying to hold onto dying embers. You can see how long the road he was looking down was. RIP, good sir.

[@benwasserman8223]

Yeah. Not to mention things he openly advocated for like protesting Vietnam and pushing the Poor Peoples Campaign would have labeled him a “radical woke socialist” by the same people who use King’s dream as a shield.

[@haydn-db8z]

I sometimes wonder what MLK would think if he were watching what's happening in Philly, Houston, and Chicago today.

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

Exactly! America went from “home of the free and land of the brave” to “home of the slave and land of the cowards.” These rightwing RepubliCULTS are the biggest snowflake I’ve ever seen.

[@chazdomingo475]

@@thinkbeforeyoutype7106 Home of the afraid. White Christians cannot accept that they won't dominate the country anymore. Well, you sold yourself out to the capitalists and now you're dealing with the rise of races that have historically been lower class because they're cheaper. Deal with it.

[@peachybuttercrunch4409]

he suffered the big hit , being a trailblazer,going through so many days consecutively, like a linebacker breaking through so many lines of questioning, so many speeches, sermons and to so many pulpits. How exhausting!

[@pacman5698]

The teens who threw rocks at Ruby Bridges are now grown up and want to make sure their grand children and great grand children never discover the fact they threw rocks at Ruby Bridges.

[@raelshark]

I see this one a lot and kinda disagree with it. I don't think most of those people are ashamed by what they did. They don't want schools teaching that they were wrong to do it.

[@krystalmoss7390]

@@raelshark That is by definition hiding it, unless you want to have an interesting discussion where people will have to find a way to justify it as some simple disagreement where both sides were equally in the right.

[@penname8441]

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[@OJsLeftGlove]

Mark Walberg?

[@dylaneagen880]

@Greg Norman So you support the rock throwers reasoning for throwing rocks at Ruby Bridges. Their reasoning being that they hated black people and didn't want them to have equal rights, such as going to the same public school as the white kids.

[@TiggerToo27]

I attended an award-winning high school in an all-white community. I took one semester of World Problems and two semesters of Advanced American history. In NONE of those classes did I hear about civil liberties, or the historical sins of slavery and the treatment of Native Americans, or any other minority persecutions. It was up to ME to learn about things like the Chinese Exclusion Act, the Trail of Tears, the Tulsa massacre, and all other manner of our government's exclusionist policies. I'm not including the educational policies of our school system. All I'm saying is that these subjects are worthy of teaching kids about our past and present history, warts and all. No mention of our abuses to Native Americans or the horrors of slavery were mentioned in my school. NONE. It would behoove us to present ALL history of our country, unpleasant though it may be.

[@theappraiserlady]

Maybe you live in Tennessee as I do. It happened, but it didn't happen.

[@TiggerToo27]

No, I don't live in Tennessee. I'll go you one better. I'm a lifetime resident of KENTUCKY! We're still living in the antebellum era here!@@theappraiserlady

[@jeronimo486]

Here in Germany, you can't escape hearing about the history of the Holocaust and World War 2. It is, obviously, a mandatory topic in school, and there are lot of documentarys about the time on german television and so on. Many germans are a bit tired of hearing that their grandparents and great-grandparents were terrible murderers who lost the war. Just a fraction of those are still somewhat leaning to fascism and naziism, most of them just don't want to hear about it because it is unconfortable to imagine what their own family members did back then. Catering that feeling and going easy on educating about the Holocaust would be BY FAR the worst thing the german state or society could do. The fact that the US debate about this kind of nonsense is deeply troubling. It is infuriating.

[@chriskrassga84]

Kein Vergeben. Kein Vergessen.

[@Dutch3DMaster]

The same is true for people here (The Netherlands) finding out some of their family members, even if they are deceased for quite some time were part of the NSDAP or NSB. Unfortunately somehow people are not realising there's a fascist-to-be in our national government right now and are actively in favor of him and his party becoming bigger...

[@LarsEckert_Molimo]

And even though we do all that, there are still large groups in our society that lack the understanding of what history should teach us. Not to mention, that the words race or xenophobia occured not once in my time at a German school. History really is one of the most important subjects, not because of what happened but because of what is not supposed to happen again. Discussions harming this process of understanding and improvement indeed are infuriating.

[@JaviusSama]

It's not so much WHAT is taught but HOW. In the US, CRT in early grade levels (little kids) has lead to cases where little white kids are forced to say sorry to black kids for things they are not responsible for. How would you feel if your six years old was forced at school to ask for the forgiveness of their jewish schoolmates for the holocaust?

[@McAero08]

Could not agree more. And with what we seeing with the rise of right wind parties and fascists all over Europe the history serves as a lesson to have to be prevented in the future.

[@fjs5059]

"If you don't get angry while studying History, you don't do it right." As a German Historian I wholeheartedly agree. There are times I feel like I don't deserve to be Happy After reading about the Holocaust, let alone to be able to laugh ever again. But I think the least I can do to kinda honour the victims, is to acknowledge their suffering and to learn about it to do my part that this won't happen again in Germany. It's like Oliver said at the end: "Yes it isn't easy. But Learning and growing never really is." An Amen to that.

[@hanfbrot]

As a German, I can agree. B u t the term “race theory” implies that there is a diversity of human “races” in the first place. Which we as Germans definitely learned - is not true. so to me, with my cultural background, it sound pretty racist. For me it’s even hard to communicate with fellow Americans arguing about at this point. I like to go with the term ethnicity.

[@matthewbyers4034]

Lots of Germans and Brits with some strong feelings here. I wonder if there was ever a European nation that held slaves...

[@jeffmacdonald9863]

@@hanfbrot I agree ethnicity is generally a better term, but it's important to understand that although "race" isn't real in any biological sense, racism certainly is real in a cultural one. Which is what critical race theory studies.

[@fjs5059]

@@hanfbrot I don't know if u noticed the struggle the translation of the Amanda Gormans Poem "The Hill we climb" into the german language caused. Among the Problems was the translation of the term "race". Bc the english term has not the exact meaning as the German term "Rasse". It's an oldfashioned term I don't like either in that context. But we agree that people can be racist towards each other bc they still use the old and insulting stereotypical and deregatory way of thinking and communicating they assume is right. And to point it out as that is important to adress that huge issue that still exists and is embedded in many layers of society. And that's what CRT is trying to do- to show that systemic und societal issues, that is actually humiliating towards people but seen as normal by many.

[@sylviabrooksfunchess2438]

@@hanfbrot Barry The creation story: :God said; let us create man in our image... male and female created he them..." GENESIS 1:26 It is a debasement of creation when a false narrative seek to divide the people. There are good and evil people. No one group has the market on racism. When however any government, the media, or the establishment tries to prejudice and guilt you into believing that a wgole group of people are racist, know without a doubt, that ther mottive is to pull the wool over the people's eyes, and to keep the people from seeing how they're robbing the people blind. Added thought: Each of us should ask one question; and that is who are the people whom they personally might disliked. And these people are those who lack good character. Martin Luther King he. said it best, and I quote; " I look forward to the day when Jews and Gentiles, Blackson and White, Catholics and Jews can finally join hands and singing in that old Negro spiritual, free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty we are free at last."

[@Corso117]

I am in the middle of reading "Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community" by MLK and I cannot recommend it enough. It really shows what we lost when Dr. King was assassinated. He was a true radical in the greatest sense of the word and incredibly eloquent. He absolutely had his finger on the pulse when it comes to America. Every high schooler in America should read this book. Too much of it unfortunately remains relevant today and the only way a multiracial America achieves its lofty goals of equality is by addressing its uncomfortable past and painful realities of today.

[@geniemememe5936]

Thank you.

[@DanielWSonntag]

Thank you

[@irmarameizl4480]

I will read this book. Thanks for recommending it.

[@victornewman06]

Great book!

[@tronrunnels2171]

Wait till you hear the audio of MLK and some other dude raping a girl. Comes out 2025. We'll circle back to your opinion then.

[@fantasymind8899]

As a half-German, half-English person I don't see how saying "I'm not going to talk about this because it makes me uncomfortable" could ever be a good idea. Germany talks about what it's done, and it is taught in our schools so it never happens again! That discomfort is essential to it not happening ever again, and I think we can all handle a little discomfort to make sure that the terrible mistakes of the past don't find opportunities to be repeated.

[@V34035]

I am very sure if someone came up to you and blamed you for everything in their life (something you had nothing to do with) is very unfair. Now imagine doing that to a kid, if you think going up to a kid and blaming them for everything their grandpa did, then you all need some mental checking to do. CRT has only divided ppl even more, it has made being racist to white ppl a norm.

[@Nassaldromus]

My ancestors came from Spain and owned slaves. Was this correct? No. Is it something I should feel ashamed of? No. It was not me who owned slaves, but that doesn't mean that I should have been kept ignorant of the facts of history or deny them in order to protect my sensibility. We need to learn reality, not a whitewashed version of it. The understanding of the reality of racism does not make you racist. We all have the choice to work towards overcoming our weaknesses and retaining your strengths.

[@Beretta249]

That's a brave thing to admit and it's tragically telling that I am 1/4 your upvotes. Because CRT insists that you are in fact responsible for the eternal misery and deprivation of the slaves of your ancestor. Because Whiteness. How that works if your ancestors were Muslims who weren't European changes the equation somehow, but not in a clear sense besides that the sum total is always Whiteness. I like John Oliver's content and investigations but too much remains unclarified. It's true that racist communities are using the CRT panic to create obstacles to teaching actual history, but that doesn't mean there isn't legitimate cause for concern. That bit about "CRT teaches that BIPOC people are holier than whites" isn't fake. The deliberate confusion that "maybe that's not real CRT" doesn't change the fact of that being taught _as Critical Race Theory._ That Critical Race Theory is hard to nail down despite being this morally obligatory is something worth being concerned with, not joked about and then ignored.

[@ProkofNY]

It is hypocritical to claim that individuals on the right misconstrue the meaning of CRT, while simultaneously implying that CRT deals with teaching a realistic/objective/comprehensive version of the history of adversities and injustices in the US…one can teach a realistic version of the history of slavery/segregation without having to rely on ideas that derive from CRT. It is equally hypocritical to claim that a white washed version of history is biased, while elevating the 1619 projects as “unbiased” history. I am not saying, however, that individuals on the right do not misconstrue what CRT is, or that a whitewashed version of history is objective. Just pointing out inconsistencies and double standards that should be addressed so that dialogue surrounding these matters does not remain such a stagnant political power struggle.

[@paintballplayer700]

@@Beretta249 " Because CRT insists that you are in fact responsible for the eternal misery and deprivation of the slaves of your ancestor. Because Whiteness." no it doesn't you banana. CRT is about how minority groups are still disadvantaged to this day because of baked-in policies in current laws that never considered their disproportionate effects on said minorities. I don't think any serious CRT scholar would say you should feel ashamed because your great-great-great-great grandfather was a slave owner. But I do think they would say you should learn about how slavery became Jim Crow, Jim Crow became neighborhood redlining, redlining became the war on drugs, and other ways that your ancestor's overt racism morphed into more subtle racism that still benefits you in 2022. If the end of slavery had magically ended racial discrimination, there would be no CRT.

[@paradoxxis8612]

@@Beretta249 "Because CRT insists that you are in fact responsible for the eternal misery and deprivation of the slaves of your ancestor." For the last fucking time, _nobody is putting responsibility on you to atone for the crimes of your ancestors._ Rather, they're trying to encourage people to _understand_ the shit your ancestors did and why it was wrong, and to understand the lingering effects that remain in our society as a result of it. Nobody is saying you're responsible for racism or slavery. They just want you to understand why it happened, how we can fix the ripple effects, and how we can prevent it in the future. Jesus Christ, has America just completely forgotten the old maxim about learning history and being doomed to repeat it?

[@spitxfire99]

@@paradoxxis8612 "Nobody wants to blame you for the actions of your ancestors, we simply want to castigate every action of yours that we disapprove of as being caused by your allegiance to whiteness, which was crafted by your ancestors. And we also want to tell white children that they propagate racism and oppressed non-whites implicitly, regardless of whether they know or not. There's nothing wrong with that! After all, don't you want to learn about history?" Yeah, please continue spouting this nonsense. It's actually entertainment for me at this point. The last thing CRT proponents want is an honest discussion on history. Far too many historical (and contemporary) facts are an inconvenience to their ideology.

[@johnchessant3012]

Related to the "whose discomfort are we prioritizing" question, one of my favorite MLK quotes: "I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: 'I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action'; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a 'more convenient season'. Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." -- MLK, "Letter from a Birmingham jail", 1963

[@noor5x9]

Wow, that's a pretty nice quote

[@Myster1970]

Amen

[@kckillakrack9714]

You mean the white liberals who been running minority communitys for over 100 years, providing zero change or improvement then blaming it on conservatives? Lol

[@FretfulClown95]

@@kckillakrack9714 It’s astounding how someone can arrive to this conclusion.

[@utilid4lifefigureitout602]

@@kckillakrack9714 Meaning moderates from all parties you ignoramus.

[@JohnDoe-jh5yr]

"When was learning and growing as a person ever comfortable?" THIS! A thousand times this! When schools embrace comfort over truth, they are no longer fulfilling their mission.

[@staidenofanarchy]

The right does not want to learn and does not want to grow. It wants you to sit down, shut up, do as your told, and don't ask questions.

[@FarTooFar]

Same for universities.

[@tstager1978]

@@staidenofanarchy You just described the left perfectly.

[@samuellmatthews3216]

@@staidenofanarchy HAHAHA, just take the jab! Do it! Sound familiar?

[@dr.vikyll7466]

@@tstager1978 Tell me you're an American who calls moderate Conservatives Maoists without saying it.

[@TheresaMarie16]

I grew up Army, my Dad was a helicopter pilot. We spent at least 6 years off and on or more in Alabama. When I was in 7th and 8th grade I didn't see any African American students at all even though desegregation was the law. I am grateful that my parents did not indicate that people who are different because of their skin color were lesser.

[@DMGamer_PC]

As much as there is to talk about here, I just want to take a step back and thank the LWT team for continuing to put these main segments up for public viewing online. Whether or not everyone sees it, having this kind of analysis available is a genuine service to the public, and it would be VERY easy for them to paywall it behind an HBO sub. Hats off to Last Week Tonight, and thank you for the continued act of generosity.

[@cj.lambert]

Yes totally agree the fortunes we have, having free knowledge programs like this

[@whathell6t]

@@cj.lambert If only that would stop the book burnings from public libraries. And these day, libraries are more important. No impoverished person can afford to buy a book from Amazon Kindle.

[@whathell6t]

@@jenspersson8321 Wrong thread, dude. This thread is not talking about CRT. It’s just giving thanks to the NWT for the presentation.

[@depreciatingasset]

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[@sydgriffin7591]

Excellent point! This is high quality and much needed informative discussion, and I'm grateful to be able to watch. Thank You LWT!!!

[@KatarinaTVD]

In my country we went to a concentration camp run by our Nazi collaborators in *middle school*, you can bet it caused anguish and discomfort but I always thought it was a very important experience, and I remember I wanted to know the truth of what happened, no matter how terrible. There are people who like to downplay the horrors of WW2 in my country but I like to think most of us kids who saw those letters and clothes and names and little pieces of life from people who were brutally killed, won't believe in those who deny it, and won't forget about it so easily. It's important to have these uncomfortable conversations to make sure we don't repeat the same horrible mistakes.

[@ProkofNY]

No serious critic of CRT is against the comprehensive and realistic teaching of the history of slavery and racism (or any other historical atrocity). The issue with CRT is that, for example-if it were to be applied to Germany and the Holocaust-it would teach students that the reason the Holocaust happened is because of the Nazi’s “whiteness.” It would further explain that all Germans today have been socialized into the same system of “whiteness” as their 1930s counterparts. In the US, “whiteness” is now understood (particularly amongst a certain ideological demographic) as an abstraction of all that is bad with the world (including “oppressive” academic subjects such as math and physics-if you don’t believe me, please independently corroborate). When we talk about CRT, we are talking about a worldview centered around the belief in ever-present/inescapable systemic oppression (this is one of the ideology’s tenets). Such a worldview is simplistic, centers group identity over the individual, and is not really conducive to dialogue, justice or understanding.

[@HeyyyitsBell]

@@ProkofNY I agree. Thank you for articulating it so well.

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@ProkofNY If you use some non-scholarly definition of CRT, like most of the talking heads do today, then perhaps. CRT and the Holocaust don't exactly match up 1 for 1, as CRT began as a distinctly American legalistic point of view. Being fair, and actually using the frame of reference for what CRT is in reality and not just what critics want to frame it as, would actually look at the institutions, laws, and other norms of government, society, and business at large in Germany that allowed for anti-Semitism to take hold and be used as a weapon against citizens. There are somewhat similar parallels that can be drawn, like America's history of red-lining and Germany's creation of Jewish only districts where they weren't allowed to own homes or land outside of those areas. It also isn't just a coincidence that both of these area have been historically titled ghettos. It is the effects of racism and using legal and financial means to systemically separate and disadvantage others/minorities that the actual theory is concerned with. The inclusion of "whiteness bad" tends to be a more reactionary and reductive response to many of these criticisms instead of a willingness to actually examine how the past has effected the present and will effect the future. This is where another fitting parallel can be drawn. Saying that the former laws and systems of slavery in the US and the subsequent Jim Crow laws somehow hasn't effected black people since slavery ended and somehow won't hold sway on the future is just as ridiculous as stating that the events of World War 2 and actions of the German state didn't have any effects on the Jewish people after September 2nd, 1945. I think America could learn a great deal by honestly looking at Germany and how they teach World War 2 and the legacy of the holocaust when attempting to shape curriculum that addresses our past. The legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, and many other issues like imperialism simply can't be hand waived away and our future generations are better off confronting these topics head on so that they never occur again. It is the complete and utter lack of this discourse that is dangerous. This is where I will disagree with your first premise, as there are critics of CRT that don't want the actual history or ramifications of slavery taught in schools at all. There are many school districts today in our country that have removed any text or library books that even refer to slavery as a cause of the civil war. You may believe that is not the case, but if you begin in examining select school districts in Tennessee, Kentucky, and several other states that this is very much the case. Having a conversation about curriculum is one thing, but outright removing books that deal with and discuss race is simply un-American by its very premise and will do nothing but hurt the coming generations. Books and theories don't hurt children, not being able to learn the important lessons found inside and being able to synthesize those concepts for themselves is what will be truly detrimental to youth in those school districts.

[@ProkofNY]

@@jeremysmith4620let’s first clarify how the notion that CRT is not taught in k-12 schools is incredibly disingenuous. My kids have a state-mandated critical pedagogy framework based on the scholarship of critical race theorist Gloria Ladson-Billings (know for introducing CRT in schools back in *1995* ). This framework is called “culturally responsive sustaining education” but it might as well be called “CRT as it applies to education” it wouldn’t make _any_ difference. The framework is so highly politicized that two thirds of its goals (vision, page 4) deal with the “critical lens/critical consciousness” and “sociopolitical consciousness.” Further, it is specified that k-12 students will see the world using a single lens (the “critical consciousness,” of course). As a liberal who is for critical thinking I find this framework aimed at young children deeply troubling. Yes, the motto “whiteness bad, ‘social-justice’ good” (where “social-justice” refers to a specific ideology, and *not* justice as an ideal) is simplistic to the extreme. This is particularly true when critical pedagogues and critical race theorists consider critical thinking part of “whiteness” or label it as “epistemic oppression.” It is not hard to see how simplistically these ideas are currently applied by “social-justice” scholars as evidenced by how subjects like math are now seen as part of whiteness/oppression. No, you cannot wave the legacy of Jim Crow/slavery away, but-with all due respect-any productive conversation on the topic of justice needs to be able to consider whether or not oppression/racism are a factor when it comes to highly complex problems. How can CRT be an objective tool when it begins with Bell's thesis (racism is an integral, permanent, and indestructible component of this society)? Let’s not pretend that academic criticisms of CRT for its lack of objectivity do not predate the inclusion of the framework into these so-called culture wars. Critical thinking remains a valid and effective tool to address problems pertaining to justice. Additionally, the analytical techniques people associate with critical thinking value viewpoint diversity, are flexible by nature, and self-corrective. Critical thinking can even include many of the ideas coming from the “social-justice” scholarship/worldview as part of these important conversations. In contrast, the “social-justice” scholarship aims to teach its core beliefs to students at the expense of critical thinking; the “critical consciousness” in my kids’ framework is not to be questioned or doubted under any circumstance. Consider the following quote by intersectional feminist and gender studies scholar Alison Bailey’s (Tracking Privilege-Preserving Epistemically Pushback in Feminist and *CRT* Philosophy Classes, 2017): “The *critical thinking* tradition is concerned primarily with epistemic adequacy. To be critical is to show good judgement in recognizing when arguments are faulty, assertions lack evidence, truth claims appeal to unreliable sources, or concepts are sloppily crafted and applied… *critical pedagogy* regards the claims that students make in response to social-justice issues *not as positions to be assessed for their truth value,* but as expressions of power that function to re-inscribe and perpetuate social inequalities. It’s mission is to teach students ways of identifying and mapping how power shapes our understandings of the world.”

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@ProkofNY First of all I find some of your claims more than a little fluffed up for the sake of an argument I'm not even trying to have and never stated anywhere in my post. First off I think you are being insanely myopic. Ladson-Billings is certainly not the only voice where CRT is concerned and her work was mostly aimed at helping educators expand their effectiveness when communicating with black students. I have no clue why you are choosing to focus on her except maybe she is some new boogey-man of CRT opponents. You are throwing around a bunch of terminology without saying much of anything. I don't care what lofty goals are stated on the highest level documents in your particular state's K-12 curriculum goals. What actually matters is what is being taught to students. Sure, big words are scary to a great number of people in America and this type of Gish Gallop can then be used to insert whatever fear mongering that is the initial goal. Throw in a few critical frameworks here, a few pedagogies there, and a dollop of "intersectional feminist and gender studies" on the side to further scare people who have no idea what any of that actually means by using a quote that isn't very relevant to what I actually said. My comment was a critique of you stating that through the lens of CRT that the holocaust would be ultimately blamed on "whiteness" which was absolutely ridiculous. You don't want to actually answer to that absurd criticism though. You want to throw out a bunch of meaningless terms taken out of context, disjointed quotes, and buzzwords in an attempt to deflect from how utterly ridiculous your assertion was. If you knew anything about CRT or the actual issues at hand you wouldn't be trying to use buzzwords like "whiteness" which is so laughable because the basic framework that CRT analysis is built off of is that race is a social construct that is not only antiquated, but used to harm the outgroup through systematic means of integrating these ideas into very frameworks of the legal, political, financial, etc cornerstones of society that serve to further said oppression. No actual proponent of CRT is blaming anything on "whiteness" because "whiteness" isn't real. It is a made up fair tale used to establish an in group and power dynamic. No legal scholar (remember that CRT is a tool to legal analysis and isn't just any old thing you don't like about race taught to kindergarteners) is going to make an argument where the core issue and main problem is a racial identity that is a made up social framework they are working to abolish in the first place. People have lost their minds about this non-topic which does show just how much of a racist undercurrent there is in modern America. If all you can do is compare things to WW2 Germany, toss out meaningless word salad, pearl clutch about white fragility, and then finish with "won't you think of the children" then those who can't see just how meaningless and disingenuous your so-called argument is have already fallen prey to a sub standard educational system that didn't give them the tools necessary to suss out bad faith arguments that only appeal to the worst of emotions.

[@FrontlinePros]

Anytime you want to hide information, I question your motive. Anytime you say we shouldn't understand our history I question your past.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

CRT hides information. Anti-CRT hides information. The truth is ugly. It shows an appalling lack of consideration for race--it shows that poor people get fucked over by the rich regardless of skin tone. Religion is generally the basis for bigotry, not skin tone. Africans rounded up other Africans to sell to Portuguese, who effectively started the "slave trade" in the 1400s.

[@Safe-and-effective]

You should do some slam poetry about it...

[@jodypalm303]

Right!

[@Safe-and-effective]

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 you misunderstood "Frontline pros". What he meant is that everyone should understand history the way progressives want us to.

[@Bloodlyshiva]

As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights" Accompanies the Secret Project "The Planetary Datalinks"

[@welcome_back_to_1972]

Whenever someone says we aren't a racist country because we elected Obama, just ask if they voted for him. And then take a long pause.

[@centurionfox7429]

I know you probably won't see this, but please explain that one more time​@@AllYouHaveToDoIsBeHonest

[@SarahAbramova]

Or look at every other president.

[@utethornburg7715]

Yes, we elected Obama and then 8 years later a orange buffoon. Go figure

[@Muzikrazy213]

​@@utethornburg7715 a SHOCKINGLY RACIST orange buffoon at that.

[@alternativeplane]

Man, I always thought those villain monologues in movies where they lay out their entire plan were unrealistic, but I guess the villains really do that irl. These past few years have really shown how realistic those "unrealistic tropes" that we see so often really are

[@onkelpappkov2666]

Some people's obsession with reenacting B-movies is going a little too far.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

The Chinese Communist Party does openly talk about how they like to leverage the American cultural divisions on race to fracture the US society. America is easier to play than the recorder.

[@Hainabification]

This is what American media does to you, you start to see villains

[@Safe-and-effective]

@@Hainabification You're wasting your breath. There is no cure for brainwashing.

[@avigailpekelman8239]

@@Hainabification are you saying that people do not change their opinions?

[@aladoristcg3769]

Standing ovation for using a clip of MLK filmed in color. He died in 1968, civil rights need to stop being talked about like ancient history.

[@Madderthanjoker]

Yeah our history class always made it seem like all this shit happened long ago with their black and white films. Shit always pissed me off.

[@SALEENS7GTR5]

I've never heard/seen that follow up he did. Everyone needs to see that after learning about the Dream speech.

[@dsproductions19]

To be fair, that was 54 years ago. It's going to feel like a long time ago for any child in school, no matter what a teacher says.

[@morganaalexander8672]

@@dsproductions19 Yeah, but we're not just talking about little kids in school who feel like this. Showing black and white images makes grown adults feel like this was all in the distant past. My mother was a kid when he did that speech and my grandfather was in the crowd. Civil rights images are purposefully shown in black and white to give the feeling that this all took place in a time closer to the Civil war and Lincoln than today. It was cheaper to print in black and white at the time, but the images were in color when they were taken.

[@ericanderson5195]

@@morganaalexander8672 I guess if you're really low iq that a black and white video could easily deceive you into believing MLK was with Abraham Lincoln and the civil war 😆 🤣

[@cshaslag]

As a chemistry teacher, I fully appreciate you shout-out to covalent bonding.

[@gatkaonlymychannel201]

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[@Q_QQ_Q]

Mutual ( double ) covalent bond

[@MyLoveBarnett]

I thought they did a good job on 21 Jump Street lol

[@alive_twicedead_once34]

Lets teach how the *democrats* in the 1700s-1800s who said black people are not really human, are not as worse as *democrats* in the 1900s-2000s that say babies in the womb are not really human. *Because babies in the womb can't even fight back when their being killed.*

[@LeifLovebug]

I don't always audibly laugh at a John Oliver bit, but his imitating of Tucker Carlson's sentence structure and inflection while talking about monkeys in car engines really got me 😭

[@davidmchugh-hypnotherapist7213]

In my property maintenance business i employed many guys, but did not like to leave a person of colour working on their own because citizens would report them to the police for suspicious behaviour, even though they wore high vis vests and carried tradesman tools. One customer i remember called one of my employees “here boy” and i told her off. Needless to say i lost the contract, but i was really angry at her racism.

[@JejuIju]

''here boy'' is now a racist term? gotcha.

[@prosandcons-fl2cc]

@@JejuIju not necessarily racist but disrespectful for sure.

[@stinkytoy]

@@JejuIju You know that calling grown, even old, black men "boy" is like a hallmark of racist white southerners, right? It was deliberately to belittle them and show them no more respect than you would a child, even if they were an adult. Did you really not know that, or are you just being disingenuous?

[@julianwaugh8221]

The liberal upper east siders get very nervouse around black tradesmen. Buildings are usually run by white Latinos. Black people are inerwunched ( not welcome)

[@littlemissymissy9507]

Bless your heart, Some of those White Housewives had done more harm than good with lies and mischief that had achieved worst than the men with the guns no wonder their sons become the likes of Jim Crow Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, and all the many terrible and hateful Racist White Men that Black People have to contend with daily

[@tigerbug]

love the ending where she got to talk about all the shit that happened to her in that school thank you for giving her that time

[@tyrrany_reigns1]

none of what she said surprised me tho. I'm from Alabama and that happens every day of the week. I went to a feeder school to the "black high school" in my county. They took us, as 3rd graders, to the cotton gin and to pick cotton. Let that sink in. To this day, and I'm in my 40s, I still think "who decided that taking a class with a high percentage of black kids to pick cotton was okay?" Just... mind blowing. We were taught about the "happy little slaves on the plantation" which is the lost cause indoctrination from the Daughters of the Confederacy. It's taking so much for me to supplement my 12 yr old son's education to make sure he grows up and knows what history actually is. I know grown people who don't appear racist and spout that lost cause indoctrination garbage. It's deep in our education system.

[@AmberAmber]

@@tyrrany_reigns1 I'm so sorry your class dealt with such awfulness. Those awful daughters of the confederacy are monstrous. TY for being the change for your child & our earth. XO

[@dariocarraresi1823]

@Thorne Worthington Checked, that's not true. As usual, when black people discuss racism, the idiots' "solution" is to make up lies to doscredit them.

[@dariocarraresi1823]

@Thorne Worthington The Washington Times makes some claims about the intentions of California educational officials. However, when the WT quotes said educational officials, the quotes prove that the WT is completely lying. Therefore, the Washington Times cannot be accepted as a valid source. Try again.

[@dariocarraresi1823]

@Thorne Worthington The NYT didn't write any false story about it. But that's because _it didn't write any story about it in the first place,_ unlike what you're trying to imply. Thanks for proving me 100% right: when black people discuss racism, idiots like you make up lies to demonize them.

[@SaintsofHonor]

I love the comments of your screen writer, give her more time talking about her school history, because I was hooked on her story telling.

[@aubreylear]

"i was like bitch, you guess"

[@seppyq3672]

@@aubreylear that made me laugh.

[@robertdickey178]

She's telling the Damn Truth. Their trying to hide the unpleasant parts of American history.

[@tinyprints5423]

I want her to have her own show please.

[@FirstIsa]

@@robertdickey178 really the more you dig into US history the more horrible our nation seems. We had our own concentration, oh sorry "work", camps before Hitler was even born which make the gas chambers of nazi Germany seem humane, as recently as the 70's the government was involved in forced sterilization of minorities, and up until 1986 we had so called "boarding schools" where Native American families were required by law to send their children to where they would be assigned "christian" names and were forbidden to speak their ancestors language or engage in any practice that was related to their tribal heritage- and if they did they could suffer punishment from being denied food, to solitary confinement, to out right physical abuse. We're very much a nation driven by cultural imperialism and a drive to make everyone the same.

[@jonkubina]

Can we just get a whole episode of Ally telling stories?

[@alysarianeed1748]

I'm french, and my country had slaves and colonies too, and I was told about the strong racism that existed and that still exist at certain levels. Yet I don't hate my country, and I never felt bad for being white. It showed me how far we were back then, and that there is still work to do, but more importantly, it showed me that it was better to learn from the mistakes of our ancestors, and to not disregard our history, even if we don't like it. (sorry if there is some spelling mistakes)

[@ashtonhoward5582]

No no, your spelling was great and thanks for sharing

[@MrFlatage]

@@ashtonhoward5582 Awh not ending sentences? You were taught critical grammar theory am I right?

[@Pandemonis]

Yeah but we have a revisionist polling at around 15%... :/

[@PerryCoxPF93]

You should absolutely STILL hate France because of the neo colonialism taking place in West Africa and the CFA Franc

[@MrFlatage]

White is in fact the most important colour to focus on for the French. When facism and racism came to France? They raised that flag being pure white ... and then worked with the facists and racists to deport? How many non white French? France has a proud history of using capital letters for 1000s of years. Yet you hate them and dishonour the 'french'. Sorry if me being critial of that offended you. I will wait for a letter from any 7yo French girl that is really cute.

[@nancyditomaso3534]

The "blue eyes/brown eyes" exercise which was intended to teach how quickly people respond to how they are treated was first used in an all White classroom in Iowa, where the color of the children's eyes was not related to race/ethnicity, so the exercise took something that was, in a sense, random, and created groups that then learned about how prejudice works. The same exercise has been done hundreds (or maybe thousands of times) often with White adults, and the results are the same. Note that the exercise covered multiple days, with those with blue eyes being the subordinate group the first day and those with brown eyes being subordinate the second day. What was surprising and most impactful in the learning was that the same behaviors emerged each day from those who were in the dominant position and from those who were in the subordinate position. Those in the dominant position were mean and disrespectful toward those in the subordinate position, while those in the subordinate position exhibited hesitancy, difficulty following directions and learning, and an aura of depression, even though they knew it was an exercise and even though they had changed places from one day to the next. I have shown videos of this experiment in my classes on diversity, equity, and inclusion, and it has always been one of the most impactful parts of the class, with students talking about it with regard to how much they learned that they did not know long after we got past that session.

[@weveri6]

What about hazel eyes?

[@tomwilson2112]

@@weveri6 We get stuck in both groups. "Blue enough. Git to the back of the class." And the next day: "Dem eyes are looking a bit too green. Get over there with them Greenies." Been there, did that. In 1982. In a conservative Christian school. Don't let anyone tell you this is a new thing or some "liberal" plot. It's been a thing in social studies classes for 50 years or more.

[@wallacoloo]

it's basically just a different implementation of the Stanford Prison Experiment. it's important to recognize the specific conditions of the experiment when drawing conclusions from it. SPE is oft criticized as an inadvertent conformity test (subjects perform for the experimenter). if i were a kid in the eye color experiment, you can be sure i'd have as much fun with that as possible, make hell for the teacher, etc, because misbehaving/rebelling is the fashionable thing to do *in school*.

[@TheBlueArcher]

The thing is, firstly, that exercise, modified for a diverse classroom, is supposed to be done with the brown eyes being the dominant group, Opposite of the example John Olivar gave in the video. Designed to reverse the roles in society as an empathy exercise. Secondly, it has the potential of STILL getting pretty fucked up. I remember seeing videos of the exercise years ago. It's definitely not something kids should be subjected to. There are definitely much better ways to teach.

[@pgpc6448]

One may remember the blue eyes/brown eyes lesson or experiment by educator Jane Elliot in 1968.

[@fexbio]

As I saw a teacher tweeting another day: "If I was able to indoctrinate my students, they would be using deodorant and turning off their cell phones in class".

[@dcgregorya5434]

Idk, I saw a case of them telling some kindergarten white kid to call himself an oppressor. Thats crap. We know who the oppressors are and its not just some random little kid, its a small % of specific people who have the colonizer energy. Your senator? Sure. The mediocre kid down the block? He's got nothing to apologize for.

[@robertblackshear8963]

Damn lmao.

[@deViant14]

it's like saying you'd also be carrying autism. It doesn't work that way

[@Thunar292]

best comment ever.

[@coralineschmidt1078]

i mean yeah, but it goes both ways like wouldn't you agree that systemically white washing history is indoctrination? one teacher alone obviously can't do it though

[@Ryan78336]

That infamous lesson was actually used as a case study on some long form news show in Australia the name of which escapes me but it may have been landline or Australian story or something like that. It was briefly touched upon in psychology class as a look at how not to teach particular attitudes to kids. It’s infamous for being highly unethical and borderline sadistic. And I’m sorry she went through that among other things.

[@juliusapriadi]

I asked my parents to visit a former nazi concentration camp for my 14th birthday party, since we had lessons about it in history and I wanted to see for myself (other kids were mostly from the same class). Cake and GoKart afterwards - great day in many ways. In Germany we live with that past, and we learn to differentiate between guilt and responsibility, no biggie.

[@speck2405]

"we learn to differentiate between guilt and responsibility" damn. that resonated with me. gonna use that in the future on people like in the video.

[@skylark1250]

Well said. Thanks. Always looking for the words to take on the crazies on these subjects. I’ve been through the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC and it was a devastating experience. But it felt right to pay respects to the very real history that happened to innocent people who were profiled for death simply for being Jewish.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@skylark1250 If you ever wondered whats really much-wrong with the US, then try 'Second Thought', who aint just known for his great coverage of Workerclass-Struggles.

[@jellojoe00]

In America....we are very fat and stupid. Most are blind to reality.

[@benbraceletspurple9108]

That's because in Germany the country was born, recently, from gross things.

[@shermanculbertson6244]

3 months without John Oliver felt like 3 years. Welcome back John!

[@Syiepherze]

@CarAudioMan16 ok

[@h7opolo]

notice crime rates increase when society is denied their comedic relief and moralistic lecturing via mass media.

[@brigettedeva]

I’m pretty sure it WAS 3 years

[@anisejones9482]

I swear🤣

[@RyanR20000]

He was probably getting hair replacement

[@patathatapon]

As a Canadian, I remember learning about the Chinese migrant workers we basically killed to make our railroad. The aboriginals we screwed over, and even a pretty even look at Louis Riel, a Métis man who, from the governments perspective, was a terrorist. From his perspective he was fighting for the aboriginal people. I remember us being encouraged to write a piece on whether we thought his actions were justified or not based on our perspective. It seems like the United States just doesn’t seem to do that…

[@hamatsa_]

CRT is what happened to the natives-- leftists only replaced the church and residential schools on reservations. They only build cheap schools on reservations to deny special education needs of welfare cases multiplying unabounded. The few that do make it through are lobbied and ushered by there own professors into social justice where they return home unqualified to aid illiterate children with math. Youth are committing suicide with no history of abuse or drugs or alcohol at an unprecedented rate.

[@westonmeyer3110]

I don’t really give a fuck about Canadian history but I can confidently say at least half of what you learned was pure bullshit. The Chinese were a tiny minority of railroad workers in North America, ESPECIALLY in Canada.

[@AL-fo3jj]

@@westonmeyer3110 don't know about your numbers for Canada, but it just wasn't absolute numbers I think it was the fact that the Chinese were brought in as cheap disposable people to build the railway in the rocky mountains.

[@davidshillaker7578]

@@westonmeyer3110 if you don't care about Canadian history, how can you say that it's BS?

[@hollandscottthomas]

I'm studying for the citizenship test atm and there's a whole section on how badly they screwed over Chinese immigrants and how long it took to even apologise.

[@luckystrike8547]

people who use the term "MARXIST IDEOLOGY" have never read MARX!

[@utopianeconomics5814]

Right, his whole point was to focus on class analysis; in the 1860s, he certainly wasn’t talking about how we need to teach about racism in the contemporary American judicial system to high schoolers.

[@alaylaburkhart5940]

Matt Haun was my teacher when I was in high school. He was one of my favorite teachers and he genuinely cares about his students. When I found out he was being fired, I was incredibly upset. He made sure we were always well informed and that we always saw both sides of the argument. He's an amazing teacher and I hope he's found work at a better school.

[@dr.floridamanphd]

What did he get fired for?

[@ChicoCabra]

But then these examples never come up when people talk abbout "cancel culture".

[@ChicoCabra]

By the way, your comment is touching, I'm sorry that happened and affected Matthew Hawn and the people that cared about him.

[@julietardos5044]

Contact the school board about your experience as his student. And get some class mates to do the same.

[@777BossTown1]

My great grandmother was born in i885 in Abbeville South Carolina just twenty years after the Civil War. She shared many of the things that took place after slavery! My point, she had to live through that very disturbing period of time. If she could live through it as a child White children and others can surely learn about it...

[@null090909]

Learning about racism at school is a conspiracy to divert our attention from the real problem: learning the recorder.

[@thewaffle003]

I'll take interpretations I can get behind for 500

[@nersharific813]

You had me in the first half NGL 😂

[@costeris35]

The instument of Satan.

[@BlindErephon]

Do kids actually learn the recorder or just fuck with it going "booodle oooodle oooooooo" for hours until you throw the fucker away or they lose interest and lose it? I've never seen a single kid play one properly.

[@baileypratt185]

Learning about racism at school is a conspiracy to divert our attention from the real problem: the southern border.

[@thebeepisshow2193]

Keep up the good work brother!!! Soooooo necessary!!!

[@samwitherington8202]

As an Englishman doing A-Level history studying the British Empire and voters rights in the UK throughout the 1800s, I have seen constantly that you need to talk about your history. Understanding your mistakes and uncomfortable histories allows learning from them to prevent that for history to repeat. Also, it is interesting to me to create parallels with history and now, to see the tunnel vision of leaders to take the wrong thing from this, and fail or outright intentionally avoid repeating these mistakes. Example? I'm glad you asked. Recently, the Government of the UK have decided that photo ID is needed to vote. This means those that don't drive or go abroad, and can't afford the £80-£90 to get a passport or new drivers license. This largely affects urban areas that contain ethnic minorities and those from a working class background. They are less likely to vote Conservative. They are restricting votes of those that won't vote from them. Sound familiar?

[@Hansgame]

is this true? how can it be? just make photo ID mandatory for everyone. problem solved. if you go to vote afterwards or not is your decision. i live in an EU country, and giving the choice to have photo ID or not, is the dumbest thing i ever heard. same ID for everyone. problem solved.

[@samwitherington8202]

@@Hansgame this is true. Also, sense isn't a common feature of the UK.

[@twilawilcox8099]

@@Hansgame if those photo ID's are issued at no charge to everyone that could work but when you charge for them it will have the effect of excluding all who can't afford it.

[@Hansgame]

@@twilawilcox8099 well, in my country they are mandatory no matter if you work or not. how much does an ID cost? mx. 50$ ? my country doesnt care if i can "afford" one or not, its the law. how is it the states problem if an individual can "afford" an ID, if its the law you have to pay it. same with taxes, otherwise no one could "afford" to pay taxes.

[@twilawilcox8099]

@@Hansgame They vary on cost depending on what type of ID you get, what state you live in, and possibly your driving record. To exclude people who can't get ID's for whatever reason (poor, elderly, disabled etc.) Is very undemocratic. Here in the states many people are excluded for those reasons and essentially are silenced because they can't vote. There's also people here who will intimate voters, some even carry guns because they don't want certain people to have any say via voting. In a truly democratic society EVERYONE would have an unabridged right to vote. Obviously the U.S. is NOT democratic. We still have legalized slavery here via the prison system and the most prisoners/population in the world. There's so much wrong with this country.

[@NateEngle]

It's worth noting that in the original implementation of Jane Elliot's "Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes" lesson the kids were told that the brown eyed kids were superior (though since it was done in Iowa the entire class was very very white). It's bad that Ally's teacher got it so wrong, but as a 3rd grader who did "Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes" myself in the 60s the year after Elliot's work was published I remember it as a pretty powerful experience. It isn't always done badly.

[@vampir753]

Flip a coin and decide based on the outcome who is superior, then after half of the lesson switch roles.

[@Merkyaself1917]

@Kevin Jones you're a blatant troll

[@sarahlaurent2239]

@Kevin Jones bestie, first of all, "immediately fired and criminally charged"? okay. on what grounds and for what crime? secondly, society at large has been telling white children for centuries that they have a plethora of inherently Positive qualities and actually no inherent drawbacks bc they belong to a "master race". i think they can handle learning about the system from which they benefit 24/7 365

[@13ivanogre13]

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[@themightykabool]

@Kevin Jones wow buddy. take 5min to watch jane elliott's class lesson and you'll find yourself immediately wrong because the "inferior" roles are switched. also nice criteria - 24/7/365 and can't benefit asians or jews. no wiggle room there for only 100% allowances and because you ain't racist if aisans and jews are included? nice...

[@blablubb1234]

As a German who knows about German history very well, I really get a bad feeling about laws banning books from schools. We’ve been there 85 years ago and as the world knows, that hasn’t ended well.

[@spitxfire99]

Are you concerned about the pro-CRt advocates removing books such as To Kill A Mocking Bird and Shakespear from school curricula on the basis that they are "whitewashed"? Weird how John doesn't mention that in his 30 minute tirade. There's a lot of other stuff he fails to mention, I wonder why...

[@FretfulClown95]

@@spitxfire99 Source?

[@hurrly9036]

@@spitxfire99 How are thoey whitewashed? Have you read any Shakespeare?

[@oceania2385]

You and your countryman started this with the Frankfurt School, your government forced them out and they came here. Bear some responsibility for god's sake.

[@spitxfire99]

@@FretfulClown95 Look up "Newsweek- School drops To Kill a Mockingbird in a bid to decolonize program" There's literally schools who are removing books in efforts to "decolonize" their curriculum, yet John Oliver could giver less of a shit apparently.

[@AJ-vm8ft]

24:23 white man here. I was and never friendly to police when I’m pulled over. I have never been dragged out of my car. The worst thing that ever happened to me was being properly ticketed for the violation I committed. Then I was allowed to go my way.

[@kevinkibble8342]

Yeah no one cares that you're white and a police officer has never harmed you. Stop making the conversation about yourself.

[@robbiegarber898]

A lot of the older episodes of this show ended with a "what you can do about it." While I miss having those, as John himself noted it's kind of tough to end on "everything sucks, the end," I hope that the discomfort it causes is enough to cause us to seek out ways to help where we can/should.

[@ammaleslie509]

Another reason he will have to do a Part 2.

[@Evok922]

@Andrew Sokolowski can you describe what a Marxist is? Or more specifically what Marxism is? Not trying to be cheeky, genuine question.

[@contentlyshane]

@@Evok922 Marxism is a method of socioeconomic analysis that uses a materialist interpretation of historical development, better known as historical materialism, to understand class relations and social conflict as well as a dialectical perspective to view social transformation. In other words Marxism seeks to explain social phenomena within any given society by analyzing the material conditions and economic activities required to fulfill human material needs. Marxism isn’t bad at all, Karl Marx created the communism manifesto and communism is a political theory that advocates for common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state it’s one of many forms of socialism. And that’s what Andrew doesn’t like and capitalists and the United States have pushed a lot of lies about communism and socialism during the Cold War which has worked on a large amount of people sadly

[@Evok922]

@@contentlyshane thanks Shane. I actually consider myself a Neo-Marxist. I was hoping I could get the commenter’s perspective of what Marxism is to see what his reactionary conservative view dictates is Marxism. I wanted to see how far off base the current state of affairs is. I feel like I’m not gonna get a response though :/.

[@cameronsitton501]

@Andrew Sokolowski I would bet a hundred thousand dollars that you think that Marxist and Communist mean the same thing.

[@Thortok2000]

When education is more concerned with whether you want to hear it or not instead of whether it's TRUE or not, that shows just how bad education is in our country.

[@Thortok2000]

What about my comment implies "lunatic" to you? Or do you just put that on any left thing you find, mindlessly and thoughtlessly repeating it as much as you possibly can?

[@hamatsa_]

CRT is what happened to the natives-- leftists only replaced the church and residential schools on reservations. They only build cheap schools on reservations to deny special education needs of welfare cases multiplying unabounded. The few that do make it through are lobbied and ushered by there own professors into social justice where they return home unqualified to aid illiterate children with math. Youth are committing suicide with no history of abuse or drugs or alcohol at an unprecedented rate.

[@n.v.9000]

@Cassie why travel when I can see it here?...there is an inflation going on, we are trying to throw Europe in war to sell weapons and distract the public and you shouldnt take Uk as example as they are the ones who created Usa after some of english had an opinion they are american now, and that american natives started to traspass on our new american land....and we have the same mind set our ancestors did of owning something that we took and brutally molded in what it is today....

[@jodypalm303]

Right!

[@Jenifer_R_]

@Cassie You accuse others of being a lunatic while "lol"ing at your own post... twice. If we are to assume you are actually cackling as you type, well it makes you look pretty unhinged.

[@lauraelaineallen21]

I see too many people talking about how banning books is useless specifically because teenagers love to look at things that are banned. But what that concept always misses is the fact that not every child will be able to seek those banned books out, and the ones that need to read them the most are the ones that won't want to. And all these parents that are trying to remove discussion of racism from classrooms are proof of what happens when kids don't read those books.

[@quentinmcwimberton6797]

Or to put that differently: the Streissand effect only persists as long as a generation is aware about the banned thing in the first place

[@ZennExile]

burning and banning books in the age of the internet is as meaningless as farting in a jacuzi tub with the bubbles on full blast. Let them. You can't ban the internet. You can only look like a jackass around a pile of burning books. Giving them media attention or caring AT ALL is just more fuel on the fire. Literally.

[@KootFloris]

Very true. Also look at how the tweets of the conservative lobbyist, or that 'Christian' school book, or many conservatives repeating exactly the same thing, show how there's a propaganda war, to mold minds in certain direction. I feel it's reaching the levels of communist Russia. Who is putting money in that, and for what?

[@lauraelaineallen21]

@@ZennExile You are missing the point I am trying to make here. A: not every child does have access to the internet. B: Banning books in schools and libraries does not prevent kids from seeking out the books, but it DOES prevent them from easily stumbling upon them. The point of an education is to introduce you to information that you might not acquire otherwise. Many of the books that people are trying to ban will not just pop up in these kids lives if the books are not in the classroom and the library. Which leads to point C: The people who most need to learn about how racism effected our history and still effects our society are often the ones who DON'T WANT TO LEARN THAT. They aren't going to go out and seek these books.

[@ZennExile]

@@lauraelaineallen21 your point was kinda delusional is why I countered it and put it to bed. These people are living decades in the past and doing exactly what they are being conditioned to do. Your delusion assumes that you know what is best for these people and their kids. But what you don't take any time at all to consider is, their choice is not for you to judge. You are supposed to respect and acknowledge their cultural views as valid. That's how freedom and tolerance work in a multicultural society. You can't just go around trying to force your woooWooo delusions on people because you think you know what's best. You don't know sht about sht, and neither do they, so all you out here doing is creating conflict. And that conflict is 100% the whole purpose of all this media bull. Keeping you engaged in meaningless unsolvable conflict IS the point. Your woooWooo is entirely delusional and part of your programming.

[@adirsu]

4:59 Confront Inequality 10:47 We need to talk about race to present day. 11:52 Chris Ruffo taking education dollars. 13:09 School Choice and Segregration Institutions 13:34 Florida and indoctrination. 14:57 Current Affairs Teacher argument against criticism. Fired for not giving varying points of view.

[@SMC.Hammer]

The most life changing class I took in high school was called The Holocaust and Human Relations. I saw everything. I saw hatred turned into what eventually became pure evil from WW2 to the Rawanda Genocide. I saw the eyes of murderers on film as they reveled in the lives they took. I witnessed suffering second hand and saw piles of REAL dead bodies and pure filthy living conditions regular people were forced into. Having this class with freshman to seniors made no difference in how we treated the material we were learning. It was awful, but oh so important. Not one person ever complained about that class. It was a privilege that not many American students have. We NEED to know these things. To at least try and live up to the “never again” mentality that we all seem to forget. Unless you actually see where we came from there’s nothing to stop history repeating itself.

[@dmorga1]

You went to an amazing high school. I went to high school in the south in the early 90's and courses were decidedly less relevant/educational.

[@raptango_na6199]

if the agenda for CRT was to teach history people would have far less of a problem with it

[@callmehkyle6609]

Critics of CRT are not saying “don’t teach history.” Absolutely teach what happened before our time, good and bad.

[@sharond36]

@@raptango_na6199 hey just to be clear with your comment are u saying that crt doesn't teach history? Sorry I want to agree with u but all of a sudden I thought wait is he or or she being sarcastic about crt? Are they making fun of crt ? Not that it would or would not bother u ? I am just curious. But if white people are willing to leave things like this out of our history in America makes you wonder what else white people are leaving out of our history? So in a way they have been molding us to satisfy their whim with everybody including poor white people. Even saying that like that is me judging people as well so I don't want to judge people or any thing any more .

[@aaronbozigian4310]

I feel like the Armenian genocide should be taught in a somewhat similar manner, at least more than it is now. The only time I remember ever learning about it in schooling was a small paragraph in elementary school. If I wasn’t half Armenian and didn’t have the knowledge from my family it wouldn’t even register in my brain as having ever happened. At least the holocaust and slavery and racism get a pretty fair shake in school, I learned about the civil war and Jim Crow laws and MLKJ, I learned about WWII and the atrocities that Germany committed, we even watched Schindlers List one time. But one small paragraph for the Armenian genocide in all of my schooling just doesn’t cut it for me. And ofc we can’t teach about every atrocity committed, but this I think was a pretty big one and was relatively recent.

[@SpyroTheGerudo]

When John Oliver goes on break, the bottom drops out and all hell breaks loose, and that first episode is always a miracle it isnt 30 hours long discussing what happened

[@tylerhibbs7086]

@@Stevie-J you know what else is toxic and divisive? Spewing misinformation on a subject when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

[@ChipJohnson]

@@Stevie-J What the FUCK are you talking about?

[@isaacj.elliott2137]

@@Stevie-J are you white?

[@isaacj.elliott2137]

@@Stevie-J what kind of a coward are you?

[@barcrafty817]

A miracle or.... gasp. How long the show is genius

[@stevenkaz28]

I've never felt uncomfortable learning history out of guilt. I've felt uncomfortable because it's just uncomfortable to hear the horrific things people to do to others. I get uncomfortable hearing about the sick things going in Ukraine today. Kids should never feel "guilty."

[@karenroque3583]

And that’s just it, CRT is not about implementing guilt, it’s about developing empathy for others that you would otherwise never interact with outside of a school environment. If we don’t acknowledge the atrocities of our past we are susceptible to ignore the suffering of others in the present. Racist parents raise racist children. If the parents had complete say on what their children were being taught, they would make sure their way of thinking never evolves beyond what is said at the dinner table.

[@nancyross7935]

@@karenroque3583 I am not responsible for what the horrendous actions white people did long ago. I learned and taught about the underground railway which was to me one of the important things creative people did to be free. What l am seeing from the de facto dictator of Florida with all his unconstitutional plans makes me far more uncomfortable than what was done in the past. This is bringing back Jim Crow with al its puntative , discriminatory "laws." I am uncomfortable that a fascist autocrat like DeSantis, who either misplaced his conscience or never had one is doing NOW. He is anathema to democracy because he values his own presidential aspirations more than the people of Florida in particular and every American in general. Thom Hartman had a commentary that if DeSantis is elected, it will be the end of our democratic experiment in self government. I agree. He is h ou tctempered, inflexible in his opinions, and has an arrogant sociopathic personality that is antidemocratic. We hear his BS cintinually because he realizes that regardless of the constuinality of his programs, keeping his name in the news makes him a recognizable name. Most voters do not study the positons of a candidate. Instead, they vote party and for a name they recognize. This is something Democrats need to rectify by takking about his opponent constantly not mentioning DeSantis's name.

[@neilerikbonoff6157]

You lefties think cancel culture is ok. Get all butt hurt when u get canceled. What goes around.

[@odemusvonkilhausen]

@@karenroque3583 That's a crock. CRT absolutely assigns guilt and victim victim mentality, depending on race. Who isn't acknowledging slavery or Jim Crow? I certainly learned about both in school and in life. So, black kids and white kids don't hang out outside of school? I don't know what fantasy land you live in, I live in one of the whitest states in the country, and what you're describing, just doesn't exist. I know plenty of racist parents, whose children are far from racist. You need to turn off the TV and your phone, and get out and see the world, for what it really is.

[@karenroque3583]

@@odemusvonkilhausen Well you’re obviously the expert on CRT, or at the very least have some first hand personal experience on the way CRT is currently being taught at schools. So please, tell me, how has CRT been teaching kids that they should be ashamed for being white and that all white people are evil. I’m genuinely curious because all I’ve been hearing over and over is that CRT is racist without providing specific textual examples. Warning: Extreme sarcasm ahead Also congratulations on knowing people who aren’t racist. Wow wee, good on ya buddy. And you know about slavery and Jim Crow? Talk about cultured. Looks like your history teachers did a darn diddly good job getting you up to speed on how systematic racism functions in today’s society. Ya hear that everyone?! This guys got it all figured out, cuz he lives in one whole state that’s not racist (totally not biased, nope, can’t be, he’s got eyes, he knows racism when he see’s it, he knows what’s happening to everyone everywhere all the time). Why feel bad about what happened back then, when everything is pretty alright now? Cuz if all those white people did all those bad things, well that must mean all white people are bad by default, right? Yep that’s the only logical conclusion any sensible person would come to after reading about how history just keeps showing us how much a lot of things for a lot of people sucked back then. No need to question how racism developed in the first place or how it became such a widespread mentality for so long or how it’s making things difficult for some people still beyond just being called the N-word. End of sarcastic paragraph In all seriousness, my point isn’t to try to make you or anyone else for that matter feel bad about being white (even if I was being really condescending about it) but I’m imploring you to really read what you wrote more critically because it really tells more about you than anything else. I’m actually really glad that you took the time out your busy utopian schedule to comment because it compelled me to do a little more research on CRT because honestly all I really had to go on was this video. To put it simply, Critical Race Theory is not a simple concept that is meant to be digested by a mainstream audience much less primary and secondary school students, and it isn’t, because ya can’t. But you’re the expert, so I’ll let you explain the rest. You wanna know something crazy? I know you didn’t ask but let’s pretend you did. I never knew about the Tulsa Massacre. I didn’t learn or read about it in middle school, high school, or even college. The first time I had ever even heard about the Tulsa Massacre was in the first episode of the new Watchmen series. Now you could say, I didn’t really need to know about such a horrific event occurring in our nation, and I certainly didn’t feel good after learning about it. But you know what it also made me feel? Curious. Sad yes, angry absolutely, but most importantly it made me curious. About just what else my history teachers didn’t disclose to me. How much of my own background did I not know about? What other racial BS is still going on today? Why does my own family sometimes talk about other races (and I mean every race) in a not so flattering light? I had to confront my own biases because all though I was born Hispanic, I was also born very white passing (Dark hair but light skin). Which means I also didn’t witness a lot of blatant racism growing up. But i digress. I learned that it’s not that simple, it never has been. All this is not to say that kids should be learning CRT, because again it can’t be so easily taught. And it isn’t something that is taught so much as it is continuously studied and argued by professionals in that academic field. But just because we don’t teach elementary school students Calculus doesn’t mean we don’t start with simple arithmetic. Our history, objectively, has not been taught without first being filtered through a biased lens. This is something that we must all learn to accept so that it can be remedied. It takes the barest amount of self reflection and critical thinking to know that acknowledging that white people have statistically faced less oppression than any other race is NOT a direct attack on your person. You’re not racist, congratulations on being the bare fucking minimum. Take your cookie

[@DanielEarth1]

I grew up in a small California Central Valley farm town. About half the school students were not white. One evening I overheard my father say to my mother something like: “isn’t it good that children don’t see someone with darker skin as inferior”. This was the first time that I ever heard that people judged other by the color of their skin, the concept was foreign to me. My best friends had darker skin than I, but I viewed it as just being different, like having different hair color. That’s how I grew up and I can honestly say that I am the same way.

[@subnaught]

You are being quite a coy LIAR. And you are racist in your subtext…disguised as ideology about “skin color?” Omg. pfft. You are NOT this naive. People like you are part of the problem. That’s why CRT conceptual thinking tools are needed to undress the emperors in front of the people. ❤

[@-DaMox-]

I'm German (and nowadays a teacher btw). Here in Germany, kids are being taught about our history from a pretty young age, and much more upfront than CRT is being taught in the US. When I myself was in 5th grade we watched/looked at pictures and documentaries about war crimes, concentration camps, mass graves, you name it. Did it make me feel uncomfortable? Of course it fucking did. That was the whole point. That's what confronting and learning from history means. And we didn't cover this only once and were done with it - it was a recurring topic througout my years in school. The Land of the Free and Home of the Brave is neither that free nor that brave it seems.

[@ellapowell3437]

The weird thing is that in the US, we had a similar education on the holocaust at least where I’m from. Just not on our own history

[@twichay1889]

Yeah... yeah. It's bad over here. We don't learn about smallpox blankets and the genocides the American people have committed. I learned "slavery bad, there were whips and also slave ships were bad. Okay so then the damnable Yanks came storming down and killed a fuckton of good people just for owning slaves. Oh also some natives died but that's not really important."

[@pamelaporter4750]

maximilianwmueller, It's worse than that. The republicans are openly fascist and racist, pursuant to the former loser president's scheme. He gave us 4 miserable years of lies, hate, and the distrust of science. Many are still teetering on the edge as they die, refusing to get a Covid vaccine, and are now intubated.

[@istdochallesegal3427]

Well-said!

[@-DaMox-]

@@ellapowell3437 That's just crazy. Imagine if the Germans only learned about the Vietnam War instead of their dark history... I bet the US would have their objections to that.

[@gwshelton4875]

Growing up in the 50s and 60s, I attended segregated, then integrated school in Va. I saw the separate bathrooms, water fountains, the poll taxes, read of lynchings, the burning of crosses, black churches. To rebell against my bigoted racist parents I made friends with African American kids. All this happened in my lifetime, they've come a long way, but IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO! Unable to live in white suburbs, relegated to city housing projects, ghettos, whites are still responsible for their plight. I tried to become a better human being than my parents, today I have mixed race grand and great grandkids who I love dearly and they love their long haired white pawpaw. I lived through it, whats wrong with learning about it? After all, lil racists come from big ones! The adults STILL don't want their kids to intermingle and "color" their family tree. The small town neighborhood I grew up in is STILL all white today

[@isliofficial]

Nah everyone is equal now. They can make it just like anyone else

[@dannytnj]

You are a better man and your grandchildren are extremely fortunate to have a grandfather like you! We should all strive to be more like you. With people like you there is hope for the generations to follow.

[@twinny_mi]

@@isliofficial I hope that was sarcasm my dude

[@DorothyDollLee]

@@isliofficial you're exactly the kind of person who needs to study CRT.

[@twinny_mi]

My biological father was born in 1954 and he witnessed the riots after Martin Luther King Jr.'s death and I did an interview of him for a social studies and English combined project where we interview a person who witnessed a historical event like at this point it would be 4 or5 years ago wow and I was the only person that did anything with the civil rights movement, everyone did 911 and Vietnam basically, it's just weird that I'm the only one that actually put in the work to research the civil rights movement in middle school. It's crazy to think the first black girl to attend an all white school is still alive in her 60's-70's. She's someone's grandma for Christs sake 😭 and we DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT. So so messed up. Also need to mention I'm finishing high school this year so I have the utmost respect for you sir 🙏

[@HenryElfin]

It's interesting to see how the different "controversial" topics are employed to get poor people fighting against each other with petty squabble instead of against the ruling elites and their policies.

[@spitxfire99]

Do you think concerns over modern school curriculum are simply a distraction? Honest question.

[@HenryElfin]

@@spitxfire99 I don't think it's an distraction, but more like a drop of water in the ocean. Is droplet water? Yes. Did it cause the flood? I won't call it like that

[@spitxfire99]

@@HenryElfin Do you not think the manner in which children are educated on modern social issues will have a large effect on society? Teachers are effectively responsible for the molding of how children think.

[@Ohh695]

@@spitxfire99 The difference is that the praxis of CTR is being embedded into regular curriculum. It's not being presented as a standalone theory that someone has the choice of making the decision of how much or how little they believe. NErd.

[@MK-ls3bu]

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

[@FlareonGames]

I love John Oliver’s writer who had the perfect response for her teacher at the end… “Guess which part of Africa you’re from.” “Bitch you guess…” Perfect…

[@GhostSal]

John Oliver is wrong here and this was little more than an infomercial for CRT. Overall I usually enjoy John Oliver but I don’t agree with him on CRT. Just because the entire CRT program isn’t taught in high schools and grammar schools doesn’t mean parts of it aren’t. It’s not actually about teaching history and although it’s promoted as “anti-racist” civil rights education, CRT actively encourages discriminatíon. At its core, CRT segregates everyone into two main categories (øppressed and oppressørs), based solely on skin color and racíal ídentity. CRT has its foundation with Derek Bell and is inspired by ideas from the Błack Power movement of the 1960s and 1970s. CRT teaches to no longer see people as individuals but to see people as separate group identities. Assigning positive or negative traits based solely upon these group (groups based on skín color and perceived racíal identity). The tenets of CRT go far beyond the humanities. In some classrooms in Oregon and California for example, students operate under the understanding that finding the correct answer in mathematics is racíst. “Right” and “wrong” answers are deemed a product of white supremacy. The proponents of CRT’s mental gymnastics required to reach such a conclusion would be amusing, if this destructive ideology didn’t pose a very real danger to education in our society.. We all agree that racïsm and discrimination are absolutely wrong and have no place in our society or in our classrooms…. Nor does the racially motivated divisive mindset that CRT promotes. When anyone claims CRT isn’t being taught in-K-12, that-semantícs… Because while the entire program isn’t, that doesn’t mean elements of it aren’t. History is being taught in schools and it shouldn’t be watered down. If anything we tend to overlook the suffering of many others across the world and tens of thousands of years of slavery (not just hundreds of years). Let’s look at CRT/BLM supporters own words: “The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” - Ibram Kendi “Błack people can’t be racíst.” - Michael Eric Dyson “We believe that so long as the white race exists, all movements against what is called ‘racism’ will fail. Therefore, our aim is to abolish the white race.” - Noel Ignatiev “If you abolish slavery, you abolish slaveholders. If you want to abolish racial oppression, you do away with whiteness.” - Noel Ignatiev The Isis Papers, Frances Welsing described whíte people as the genetically defective descendants of “albino mutants” She wrote that due to this "defective" mutatíon, they may have been forcíbly expelled from Afríca. She also promoted the belief that “melanin” made błack people superior to whíte people. Keep in mind his isn’t what I have said they want, these are CRT/BLM supporters own words and we should believe that they mean what they say. Here are just a few examples where it is being taught in schools: A Cupertino, California, elementary school forced third-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities, then rank themselves according to their “power and privilege.” They separated the eight-year-old children into oppressors and oppressed. A middle school in Springfield, Missouri, forced teachers to locate themselves on an “oppression matrix,” claiming that white heterosexual Protestant males are inherently oppressors and must atone for their “covert white supremacy.” The Arizona Department of Education created an “equity” toolkit claiming that babies show the first signs of racism at three months old and that white children become full racists-”strongly biased in favor of whiteness”-by age five. The California Department of Education passed an “ethnic studies” curriculum that calls for the “decolonization” of American society. The principal of East Side Community School in New York sent white parents a “tool for action,” which tells them they must become “white traitors” and then advocate for full “white abolition.” A Department of Education-funded conference advocated for “abolition” of American institutions and told whites they must “give up” their “wealth.” No one is saying don’t teach history and teach it as unbiasedly as possible (with facts). The thing is CRT isn’t really about history, it’s about controllíng mínds and separating everyone today into two categories: øppressed or øppressor.

[@CalifornianSupremacy]

@@GhostSalnot a single thing you claim is sourced, bad disinformation bot. Reported.

[@Capri_00]

@@GhostSalno one, not even myself read that.

[@GhostSal]

@@Capri_00 So you’ll watch was essentially an infomercial for CRT but you won’t read anything that raises concerns about CRT. No worries, stay in your confirmation bias bubble where you feel comfortable. I was on the left my whole life until I actually started researching what they were telling me. My point is, you will never know what the actual truth is unless you are willing to do your own research with an emphasis on staying objective.

[@Capri_00]

@@GhostSal didn’t read that last comment either.

[@Malky24]

It's an overused phrase but it's overused because it's true: "Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it." In this case it's not so much forgetting as it would seem there are those who would very much like to repeat it and are actively trying to do so.

[@Malky24]

@S So you just ignored the video then?

[@carolinenhitran6327]

@S That is 100% not what CRT is. I've read articles and loads of different perspectives on CRT and no one even comes close to perceiving it as where "the oppressor class must be punished." Even those on the more conservative side don't blatantly view it like that

[@thesageofmorningdew]

@S That is not at all what Critical Race Theory is. First off it has literally nothing to do with Mao or Marx. CRT is a lens which can be added to other areas of study. You can study for example housing laws, by looking at these laws from the perspective of a race other then your own and comparing it to the experience of a white individual you are using CRT. Or looking at History, CRT is the lens used to understand that western expansion in the United States during the 19th century wasn't just wagons and plucky pioneers, the experience of recently enslaved blacks, Chinese and Irish laborers building the railroads, and Native people's driven from their lands would all be incredibly different than what was experienced by white Anglo people and that history had markedly different effects on these people through the decades up until the modern day. CRT is not "White man bad!" it is "Maybe we should look at things like the Revolutionary war and legislation from more than just the perspective of white people"

[@ProkofNY]

No serious critic of CRT is against the teaching of an objective and comprehensive version of the history or racism and slavery. This is a complete strawman argument.

[@akshatamukunds]

This is such a good point. India we are taught about the caste system like its a thing of the past...like abolishing of the system over night made things right. But even today people will openly discuss and ask each other about their caste...not even realizing that it is illegal to ask such questions. Not to mention that in rural areas it is rampant and generations of people have grown up actually living in the kind of oppression that the rest of the world thinks is dead.

[@mmarzett]

I have missed this show so much. My biggest regret is that I can't watch it in it's entirety because I live in Europe. Welcome back John!

[@sommershadow]

Praise NordVPN and Hbo Max

[@dune3001]

I live in Europe, and I can see it on HBO. I prefer online so I don't have to see it on a fix schedule.

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

You can, on HBO

[@nickjacobs8507]

That's great because nobody here in America watches Oliver. Tucker Carlson has the highest rated news show on TV.

[@gorillaguerillaDK]

@@nickjacobs8507 "Nobody watches" is an obvious lie, and while there's probably more who watches Tucker, it isn't saying anything about who is right on this issue. The fact is, the guy who started pushing all this BS about CRT, (Christopher Rufo), has also been working on pushing teaching of ID, (Creationism), into public schools... Of course his crusade against CRT is using a lot of the tactics, the "wedge" strategy uses. It's all about pushing Fundamentalistic Christian Nationalism...

[@GusCraft460]

So I actually was training to be a teacher, and at one point I asked how I should teach difficult topics like the trail of tears and the Holocaust, because genocide just is not a kid friendly topic. I was told “you need to make genocide kid friendly.” What the fuck does that even mean? I was asking how do I do that and they told me that I do it by doing it. Is it any surprise that difficult topics like that aren’t covered very well in schools when we literally do not teach teachers how to teach them?

[@spongeintheshoe]

"You do it by doing it" is just terrible advice, regardless of the circumstances.

[@israelblaylock5527]

How should you teach emotional tough topics? Objectively I don’t understand why everyone wants to filter history. It’s the easiest topic to teach. Yet all history textbooks add narrative by grouping events by theme rather than by year.

[@williamgarwood5838]

The schools need a complete overhaul. Our students need more time in the classroom, smaller classes of kids, more teachers so that we can learn them properly. My kid brought home a curriculum last year that included hashtags. HASHTAGS! Thank you for trying though.

[@mcresent]

Maybe the heavier topics should be taught in HS

[@sorceress1986]

It means you need to teach it in a way a younger child will understand.

[@youngwang97]

As a Canadian, I was horrified when i learned how Canada treated Chinese immigrants in the early 1900s. But it didn't make me hate my country

[@maximillianphoenix9374]

Your not a proper Canadian your a Chinese who lives in Canada besides Chinese have always done much worse to their own go read a book 📕

[@HolsingerE]

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” - Plato. Let's get political and vote no matter what as the racists most certainly will.

[@PackinForSuperbowl]

"This is the best we can do, people. Garbage in, garbage out." -George Carlin

[@markmittens]

This is a beautifully sad quote glad I ran across it though

[@BrahmaDBA]

This. One of the main issue in my country is the apathy of people in understanding who they elect as a local ruler (governors, mayors, state rep, etc) they simply don't care enough to learn. But when one of these politicians get caught for corruption they would moan and groan even tho the same politicians were implicated in a bribery case before. Their apathy is the gain of corrupt officials.

[@joshdavis416]

Do more than just vote, run for your local offices.

[@MarcillaSmith]

So if we voted in 2016 and 2020, then Donald Trump and Joe Biden are our rightful superiors?

[@Psyblade0_0]

History isn't just important to learn from our mistakes, it is there to inform. Intentionally ignoring/downplaying portions of history just lets other prejudices take hold without context.

[@widardd]

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

[@bobby9411]

@Mario Sanabria lmao you conservative saying cucks and in the same breath whining, I don't identify with any of them

[@MyMMC]

thank you for your input commander shephard. you are correct o7

[@xx3astmanxx287]

@Mario Sanabria the three main reasons we’re fucked are because of the complete dissolution of the nuclear family, massive cuts in spending on education, and the political bipartisanism that has been creating division since day 1.

[@baileypratt185]

Like ignoring the portion of history before Europe and America’s rise where other peoples were ass backwards and generally trash societies?

[@abqannie5052]

I’m still bitter about my 11 years of Christian Texas education that left out facts about biology when I later got a college degree in biology. My world history class told us why Christianity was the only real religion and pointed out “falsehoods” of other religions instead of tolerance of people from different cultures. I changed from extreme conservative to an extreme liberal out of out of pure outrage of being lied to by teachers I trusted and the hypocrisy, since I dug for answers on my own an educated myself on what was really true. People tell me I’m liberal anyway, so if having a good understanding of real science makes me liberal then I guess I am. In the 90s my parents often talked about wanting state money for my private religious schooling, but they were willing to pay a lot on their own to keep me out of public school. They weren’t rich. It’s weird that conservatives want a public handout here, but if there are babies going hungry their mom needs to work harder and not have food stamps.

[@LeviathanArts]

I get you! I was raised Catholic, but I was the kid that would get in trouble in Sunday school because I questioned “but snakes don’t talk?” It wasn’t until I was well into my Masters that I finally stopped hiding who I was (a science-bound pagan) and started embracing that our education system is severely biased. Now, I have an amazing understanding of evolution and physiology, and all of my debates come from people with less than a Bachelor’s but a lifetime of indoctrination. We really need religion out of the public sphere.

[@Chrriekay907]

I'm in TX and yea... It's awful here lol the system is 🗑️

[@haydn-db8z]

As a life-long liberal atheist, I would not want anything regarding race taught to my kids in school in the hyper-politically-correct environment in which we live right now. Adding CRT will only make things worse, and I find myself in rare agreement with the right wing here.

[@jay7568]

This is way I hate the idea of private religious schools because they don't want to teach you the basic things like math, reading, history or writing but are using it as a means to indoctrinate children into their bigotry

[@SheabutterA]

@@haydn-db8z did you watch the part in the video where CRT is a graduate level law class? And you don’t want your kids to learn about the the history of the US and be ignorant. Parent of the year

[@jessemiranda326]

Very important show . Well done . Every school should be able to see and talk about shows like yours ❤ Thank you 😊

[@alicekerketta4230]

This resonates so well with what the Bahujan people in India feel when we come to schools and colleges. How our generational suffering is sometimes not even covered in our books.

[@tracyavent-costanza346]

yep it's not like there aren't echoes of a caste system in other places. we factually have the remains of one in the USA: in the south of the british colonies, the textile business encouraged whites to regard themselves as superior to any colored people, so both they and the slave/indentured classes, could all be controlled by the money interests of the cotton and tobacco and sugar business interests. obviously the british occupation of india did not discourage that caste system either.

[@Al-Rudigor]

Black Americans see a problem though. Even people from marginalized groups in their native country, choose white supremacy. When they get to the US, they jump at the chance to join the majority. Because America has enshrined black descendants of slaves as the permanent underclass. Most immigrants, especially Asians, seem to embrace this with gusto.

[@prosperity4444]

I feel bad for the guy who had to count how many times fox mentioned CRT

[@rolandwoltman7835]

I wonder why it gets so much traction... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaOVknSjo6aVkM0

[@xhivo97]

You could technically use a computer for that

[@dasikakn]

They probably used a speech to text converter and ran it through a computer program to count it. It’s also fairly easy to train AI to count it.

[@angirassharma709]

That TED cruz poetry slam is the longest and best recurring gag of all time. 😂

[@lavrentivs9891]

"Why am I persecuted?!"

[@AlecSmolenskiMusic]

I literally screamed “PLS DO A TED CRUZ RHYME” as soon as it showed teddy boy. I was so happy🤣

[@basilmusic9041]

Absolutely. 💯. Thank You. Carry On.