Kindle Scribe: Worse than reMarkable 2. Get an iPad instead!

[@paperlessmove]

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[@ernestintownandjackintheco1024]

I pre-ordered it. The entire concept of eink is seperate from the iPad. One of the top reasons for people trying this kind of device is to get away from the eyestrain of iPad-like devices.

[@JVL1988]

And to get away from all the distractions on tablets.

[@klloh5012]

Spot on

[@Ravp90]

It's also poor effort to have created a video to recommend an ipad having had no hands on experience with the new kindle. Not only is this comparison as comical as "get a car if your ass hurts when you cycle", but it completely ignores the actual use cases. Like how about the new kindle scribe is also a massive amazon ereader as well? Stepping up from an oasis, it is a huge jump in size and it will be amazing for reading as well, it isn't just about the pen. But then I did search this paperless movement company and they offer a course on digital notetaking that is biased towards using ipad apps. So there we have it.

[@mohamedsanogho8361]

Thank you, for this reply!!! I have never had a kindle before, but I dived in with the Scribe. Why? I am a digital nomad ( in CS/IT area) and I was tired of carrying heavy books that added up to my luggage count when traveling. Plus, the eyestrain is another major reason to get it!

[@klloh5012]

@@mohamedsanogho8361 just go for it if you read a lot and wants to take care of your eyes. I had my first kindle two months ago and now I’m buying three additional diff size of e ink reader for all occasions to use. that is how a e ink reader is useful to someone who reads a lot. you’re going to enjoy it for sure.

[@lv1shinobi]

As a person who carries around an iPad Pro with an Apple Pencil, A Kindle Oasis, a Rocketbook Pro, a sketchbook, and drawing materials, I’m getting the Kindle Scribe to consolidate all the latter. Tried to make the iPad Pro my all in one solution, didn’t work for me. All the screen protectors and special nibs in the world could not make the screen feel remotely close to paper on the iPad. This may be the only way for me to go….paperless. Between the iPad and Kindle Scribe, I would still go with the iPad. But to fit all my personal needs I’m going with both.

[@DanielHarrisCodes]

Does the scribe feel like writing on paper?

[@Ravp90]

But you missed the point of the video. Get an ipad because they cant sell their note taking course to you if you're not part of the apple ecosystem.

[@mopnem]

I don't the scribe will compete with drawing but everything else hoepfullly it does.

[@Midalias25]

You lost me 18 seconds in the video. I work on a computer more than 8 hrs per day and I take notes on iPad. The eye strain I get is preventing me from using any more screen time. I think kindle and iPad are in different categories now.

[@MickeyCarcases]

Don’t really think any of these e ink tablets are trying to compete with the iPad and they can’t. They are very niche products. People get these tablets because of the e ink benefits and feel, not to watch Netflix or check out social media.

[@PriyanujKashyap]

I just want one to read pdf books and simply write some notes with it. Pdf books are really difficult to read on smaller kindles and reading on an ipad for long strains my eyes.

[@herohour6496]

Can you write NOTES with Apple Pencil on Kindle books? I am trying but I can't write notes on MY kindle books reading on iPAD.

[@PriyanujKashyap]

@@herohour6496 probably not

[@herohour6496]

@@PriyanujKashyap That software is like 3 years too long. I'm surprised no one has made that possible...

[@PriyanujKashyap]

@@herohour6496 The app is fine for a reading kindle like a paperwhite but its too simple as well as clunky at the same for an ipad which has so much utility.

[@herohour6496]

@@PriyanujKashyap I don't have Kindle. I only have iPAD, but when I buy books from Amazon, I can't make notes (on the sides, like on a real book). I can't believe it hasn't been "made" yet.

[@AaronGibson-rl2vj]

I feel like you totally missed the point of an e-reader. It's not productivity as such, its to switch off from the screen and the constant distractions. And why buy an expensive iPad to then have to turn everything off...? I'll probably buy the Scribe, it's the 1st generation so will only get better with time. Also, I'm was sure I was watching an iPad advert here, you're certainly a fan of Apple!😀

[@Niovium]

I just got my Kindle scribe and I love it. Im not an artist so drawing was never a sell for me. I do journal a lot but you will never get me away from my normal journals. The main reason why I bought the scribe was for the bigger screen. I do enjoy reading a lot of books, including Manga and buying physical copies would take up a lot of space. When reading nonfiction, I do find myself taking notes on it and it works well enough. I also own an iPad but even without notifications turned off it can still pull you away from your task at hand. Too many searching options and I can lose focus, but that's just me. So yeah sorry, I just disagree.

[@jefferyw861]

Are you locked solely into books and manga you bought on Amazon/Kindle or can you transfer epubs onto the Kindle Scribe?

[@eduardadiniz9205]

@@jefferyw861 You can transfer any file in pdf or mobi (the kindles own) format to the kindle via the internet. You set up an email account in your Amazon settings and send those files to the specified email account. They will show automatically on your kindle. I do this all the time, works really well.

[@caroled7768]

I agree with everything you are saying about the pros and cons. However I don't think we are talking apples to apples. The iPad is meant to replace a lot that you would do on a tablet and to a great extent your pc. The e-ink devices are meant to replace your notebooks and e-readers. I have both an iPad and Remarkable 2. The note taking on Remarkable feels like writing on paper, which I love. I cannot stand writing on my iPad. But you are correct, there are days I wish my Remarkable did more.

[@scottintexas]

Have you tried a paper-feel screen protector?

[@DavidMatterall]

Have both Scribe and iPad, I only use iPad. The Scribe never gets used because the device is slippery and doesn't feel good in the hand. IT's fine on table top. A cover helps with holding but makes it too heavy. The operating system feels slow and clunky. The whole experience feels limiting. I agree with most of what you said, it's very accurate and insightful. I probably have ADD and am looking for a distraction free way of writing and tracking information - I was hoping e Ink could do that for me, but I keep coming back to Apple notes for everything.

[@Bruceneuman]

I own both Remarkable 2 and now the Kindle Scribe. This is clearly an emerging and maturing market and the competing devices are fun, albeit a little expensive, to be trying out. Remarkable has the head start, but I imagine Amazon will quickly catch up. As for the devices, both are great to use. I think the Kindle benefits from the lighted screen - Remarkable simply needs to add that feature. Weather resistance is another feature that both of these devices should add. The Kindle Scribe is very fast and the screen resolution very pleasing. I will continue to use my Remarkable for work, where I,also, love note taking on my iPad. That is where I integrate the notes I want to save. One other thing, the Remarkable 2 is now down to $279. That is most welcome, as would be a lighted screen and, perhaps, a mini version for on the go work. The robust competition added by the Scribe is most welcome. There is nothing like competition between two able competitors.

[@paperlessmove]

Thanks for sharing all those insights with us, Bruce! 🙌

[@nsiolios]

The experience for the eyes reading in e-ink devices is out of comparison with any other device. I am using the Kindle paperwhite for reading books. I was waiting for a bigger screen with 300ppi. The plus having a pen feeling like paper , as Amazon says, is more than expected.

[@pullingweeds]

I completely agree. My eyes can't stand reading books on the iPad type of tablets.

[@Toletanus]

I want Kindle Scribe to study, write my diaries, ideas, etc, and read my PDF. So, for me it`s a good product and I`ve preordered it.

[@sp277]

Get the two! I have a tablet, but I "hate" to read on it. I use my phone, tablet, or PC; if I need some productivity. If I want to read, I easily prefer Kindle. The importance of Kindle Scribe is mainly its size. Some notes, like you say: as in paper books (which you don't need, no want, to search for) is an added benefit. For productivity, of course, I follow your excellent advice.

[@michou53123]

The scribe will be the perfect tool for authors when editing your book in a different Environment or reading it to an audience. Cannot wait to get mine.

[@johnstjohn4705]

Thanks for bringing me back down to earth. I am tempted to order a Remarkable or Amazon Scribe. I want to like them. But search is the killer for me. Notes are useless if you can't search and find them.

[@guntherhofer1424]

Take a look at the supernote a5x, it probably has the most advanced features when it comea to search for notes you ve made

[@paulc3752]

I use a LOT of PDFs in my work, take a LOT of notes and read a LOT of books in the Amazon platform. Going to get the Scribe.

[@Bruceneuman]

Get an iPad first, but if you can afford it add a Remarkable. They combine to add ever greater function. The “either or” choice is a false one. Like someone in construction, you can never have enough good tools as long as they work together. I will try the Kindle Scribe for the better screen and lighting.

[@paperlessmove]

Well said and good argument having good tools. As long each tool has its purpose. You can use a screwdriver to hammer in a nail. But it’s better to have a hammer for this and use the screwdriver for screws. As long this is clear, it’s worth having both! But unfortunately for many it’s not clear what the purpose of the different tools is. Just like someone going to a construction site not knowing anything about the tools they use there. Thanks for sharing! Great thoughts!

[@mopnem]

Personally, I think the e-ink goal is strongly tied to reading, that's what makes the kindle scribe very appealing. Note taking on the ipad is silly to me personally but drawing on the ipad is almost the most ideal way to do it digitally.

[@marioidsouza]

I think you miss the point of an eInk reader. The main purpose is not distraction free reading but reading on device that does not have flickering pixels that cause eye strain.

[@shanghaichica]

I'm thinking of getting it only for the larger display, not the note taking. I already have an iPad pro and Apple Pencil.

[@herohour6496]

I have an iPad and Apple Pencil. Can I write notes on my Kindle books??? I want to write small notes on the books I purchased....

[@VanCrane]

I’m still interested, it’s a 10“ kindle 😅🤷🏻‍♀️ But I don’t preorder it, I’m waiting for the reviews WITH the device 😉

[@paperlessmove]

Yes! Good approach! Be ensured, we'll do one WITH the device too. Stay tuned! :)

[@VanCrane]

@@paperlessmove Looking forward ✌🏻🤓

[@Ammon-Ra]

Same here. 🙂

[@macjim]

I’ve pre-ordered the Scribe with the premium pen. Why did I choose this over the Remarkable 2 which I nearly bought? Primarily because the Remarkable has no means of allowing me to be able to read my Kindle books on it, whereas the Scribe does in a larger format than the kindle I have now. Plus, I can stop using my iPad and crayon to fill out order forms, purchase order forms, timesheets etc on it. If Remarkable has made the RM2 to have apps like the Kindle app, I’d have bought it in a heartbeat.

[@mysticsailor9]

@@paperlessmove if you actually think that ANYONE is interested in an iPad Vs Scribe you clearly do not understand the purpose of either device.

[@dbrakowski]

Good points Tom, but for the majority of the world that is not in the Apple ecosystem the iPad is a non-starter.

[@FoodatNine]

I completely agree with you. I have been watching all these amazing videos and am still struggling to find a reason to convince myself to buy remarkable to increase my productivity it will make me more productive.

[@MadHatch1971]

Ok. You are reviewing a product you don't have hands on and comparing apples to well, oranges. As a general tablet, iPads are better. But for a distraction free device; eInk tablets win. When it comes to eReaders, Kindle wins out right - the display is actually healthy for your eyes (fact) Personally? I think you should pull this video until there is a: a hands-on review of the Kindle Scribe, or b: you actually spend some time using one and the eco system it's going to have. Trashing something that isn't even out yet doesn't earn you any brownie points and just make it seems like you're out to promote Apple products no matter what the truth is.

[@paperlessmove]

Thanks for your comprehensive feedback, James! This video is not about bashing e-ink devices in general. As Tom mentioned in several places inside the video, he totally understands why people use e-ink devices for distraction-free working with a paper feeling. What worries us, are people who buy such devices in hopes that they'll become more productive this way, while, in fact, it's the lack of understanding of how such devices integrate into their overall productivity setup that hinders people to get a well-oiled productivity setup working. So the video is to point out the friction people have if they plan to use such devices with collaboration and teamwork in mind or to integrate them with other systems to leverage the information they collected on an e-ink device. The other thing we are very surprised about, is the lack of functionalities like handwriting-to-text conversion and global search of handwritten notes, especially for a device developed with Amazon. For this reason, it all comes down to pricing. And for this price, it's hard to compete with alternatives like the iPad or to justify an upgrade from a normal Kindle to read eBooks. Of course, you are right, those are personal opinions on a device that we don't have tested physically yet. Be ensured, we'll do it once it's available and update our video if things change. However, from experience testing the reMarkable 2 and the Supernotes, and the information about the feature set the Kindle Scribe has to offer, we are confident that this review/first impression is as accurate as it can be. Here is one of many Video reviews about the reMarkable 2 we did on this channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3qliHxvbKd9aNk

[@MadHatch1971]

@@paperlessmove Thank you for taking the time to reply. I understand the point you are trying to make regarding productivity. But, the Kindle Scribe is an unknown beast at the moment. What we don’t know outweighs what we do know about the device. Handwriting recognition? We don’t know. The sync app and eco system? We don’t know. We know it will have integration with MS Word, with Word having the ability to send and receive documents direct from the Scribe. But at a basic level, we know very little about how it will work, and how it can be used. I think you have drawn conclusions based on very little information about the Scribe, which make your conclusions about it misleading. Personally? I would have held off on any conclusion regarding it until it was out, and in hand. But I get it, you have to use current eInk tablets as a reference point. Again, I find your conclusion misleading. Onyx Boox eInk Tablets run Android, and Android apps. Some of those devices are running eInk colour screens and would give an iPad a good run for its money (from a productivity POV, and a group working experience). I use a Boox Nova Air C, which allows me to access any Android app, on a full colour epaper screen. I appreciate you responding, but I think you have jumped the gun and not really looked at all the players in field that make eInk tablets.

[@MargaretGeorgemgse]

@@MadHatch1971 can I just ask about the Onyx Boox with colour? I need my students to be able to write on a pdf of an exam paper as if they were in a real exam. If I can save printing batches of past papers, I can afford a device. But all the images I have seen show users using that painful 'hand not touching the screen' pen hold. My students cannot get exam ready that way. I might as well use my Surface! Can you clarify the ability of Boox to allow a proper writing hold, please?

[@MadHatch1971]

@@MargaretGeorgemgse Boox eInk tablets use EMR pens, hence palm rejection is automatic. I can write normally on it - and there is a manual option to toggle palm rejection if you need to. Basically, it's a natural writing experience.

[@MargaretGeorgemgse]

@@MadHatch1971 thanks. I was worried by all the images on positive reviews on Amazon. All the users had their hands in the air!

[@dwilson51]

This is nuts. I've been using RM2 for nearly two years, why can't you use the .pdf files from the RM? It is easy. Maybe you should switch to Android or Windows. I use both in a professional environment and personal with ease. I'm considering the new Amazon product so thanks for your feedback there. Probably time to exit the Apple ecosystem as this seems to be the root of your issues.

[@mysticsailor9]

Every single high tech gadget, phone, tv, tablet, laptop, computer from every company just hang out, share and happily talk to each other, yet apple is like that smelly wierdo in the corner that does not talk or share and yet wonders why nobody likes him

[@nbamford03]

As a business professional I would say that you'd be much better off buying a Microsoft surface product rather than an iPad. I use the Go 3, half the price of an iPad and it ties in seamlessly with the Microsoft cloud options. I had an iPad pro 12.9" and found the writing experience horrible. The downside to this is you are stuck with OneNote (Goodnotes is, apparently, coming in 2023) and OneNote often feels like travelling back to the 90's. If I had the cash I'd go for a surface pro over an iPad any day of the week.

[@paperlessmove]

Great feedback! As a business professional mainly working in the Microsoft ecosystem, this makes total sense! The solutions offered by Microsoft on the iPad cannot compete with having a Surface and running the native apps there. That's what the goal of ICOR, thought inside the Paperless Movement membership, is all about. Helping people understand what they REALLY need for their specific use cases. In many cases, the current setup is already great, and it's not a tool or device but the understanding of processes and workflows that'll improve overall productivity. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!

[@hrungnir00008psp]

The video is amusing since it takes the meaning of a biased review to the limit. Note taking is simply better on the Remarkable and it can be more productive depending on how you work. However, apps like Margin Note are appealing and useful but for brainstorming and drafting, the e-ink devices are clearly better.

[@ToddParker]

A very thoughtful video, yet it is understandable given your connection to the apple ecosystem. So, a serious question that I am looking for an answer to as I don't think it was thoroughly addressed in your video. What about someone who is heavy into the kindle ecosystem? There is a lot of content with the books and pdf's I read on the kindle oasis device. I have an iPad mini with apple pencil and matte finish screen protector so the writing has a friction to it making it feel more like paper. Here is the thing though, I noticed my tendencies: 1. I use my iPad mini to read more than anything. Then I pick up my kindle to read other things some more (tied to kindle unlimited). I like Kindle oasis better as it is lighter even than the apple mini. I like to learn a lot, I am learning Greek and Hebrew and I research things...so reading and note taking is primary and would add to the books I am reading in the kindle ecosystem specifically. I do not use iPad mini a lot for all the other things it does...not gaming, not watching ( although...some KZbin). So for someone like me heavy into the kindle unlimited ecosystem and books and pdf's in general, what would you say? All of this is always about content, how it is delivered, how accessible it is, how creatively your work within the content is. Most would agree with you when highlighting the tech as being inferior to the tech on an iPad--yet, isn't the question of content more important than you what is being addressed here? For someone heavy into kindle books, do you have a different answer? Lastly, I do have noteshelf, evernote, apple notes, and some other apps that can work with apple pencil. Youi mention Readwise; I will look into that, is there any other app you would suggest in relationship to knowing that I am heavy into the kindle ecosystem and kindle unlimited specifically? With iPad, my problem is that I am not you; what I mean is that I am not in the position to pay premium services to all the monthly apps like evernote or nimbus or...or...or...(there are so many). The problem from a distraction standpoint on an iPad is not just about the alerts and various other opportunities like gaming or video. The problem also is the lack of clarity in the ecosystem of what you want to do from a note taking standpoint with so very many things in different ecosystems not tied together. Is it possible the simplicity of a device like kindle with the content you use makes someone most productive? Just looking for a thoughtful discussion...

[@robertfontaine3650]

Microsoft surface makes a lot more sense than iPad in a business environment but the scribe has me curious

[@michaelwang8195]

This feels like an incorrect comparison....this is an eink device and should be compared against eink device or a paper notebook. It should be compared against paper notebooks and other eink devices only. By definition it's a niche market. It would be much more useful to evaluate apps like Google keep and onenote on this device. Like....this is meant to be a supplemental device. I use a boox note now plus laptop and because I don't have to constantly charge it daily. This is purely for a focused creative experience that supplements my laptop and basically replaces my paper notebook. It's incorrect to evaluate an eink device as a standalone device....

[@guntherhofer1424]

Have a scribe and love it. And I am definitely going further into the e ink rabbithole. Why? Because it looks like paper, and I love to read and take notes on my device.

[@ishyandmikkischannel8811]

Why an Ipad? I threw my Ipads away in 2012 when Samsung Note and Samsung tablets let me annotate directly on PDFs. Ipads are like 5 years late... Why don't you see that? And you missed the point. Kindle apps let you annotate directly with pen on the app. Some of us sketch or write equations.

[@Ravp90]

Because he sells courses centred on the use of ipad apps

[@jayvansickle7607]

I appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning…because, the Scribe is definitely not a professional workflow device. Definitely not worth getting a scribe unless you first and foremost…want a kindle.

[@MargaretGeorgemgse]

I have a Surface and pen. The issue is that I must keep my hand off the page. Any idea when Apple or Microsoft will fully conquer this? The toggle for 'ignore hand' does not work at all! As for paper and pen feel, this is what I need on a proper tablet: I teach exam students, so working paperless on exam questions saves a LOT of printing (you have NO idea the budget for printing practice papers in a school!) we need students to be used to the feeling of a proper exam. But I then need to send and receive the worked papers for marking and feedback. Without the students needing to carry an extra device around. I cannot understand why this enormous market is not being targeted? Apple, Microsoft and Google could surely offer a model with full functionality with paper and pen feel?

[@landonmiller6943]

Already pre-ordered my Amazon Scribe, it's exactly what I've been waiting for.

[@dr.mainakchakraborty9297]

if u have many scanned pdfs to read or if u love to read comics..then go away from any e ink devices. Those are for very very specific things. So in my opinion, an ipad mini is overall a great option..and also apple has new focus option for non distraction while reading..so that distraction etc etc in kindle is not an option to buy...also note taking with apple pencil or any such third party pencils in ipad is much soft and smoother.Only positive points of kindle are the battery ( which is obvious as it does not do anything complex except reading ) and the eye strain. But in recent ipads the eye strain problem has been reduced much than the older models.

[@Gibbothegreat21]

That's all well and good but for me, I'm buying the scribe because I only want to read and take a few notes for my reviews, also I always wanted a bigger screen and I'm also heavily into the Kindle ecosystem so for me it's a no brainer.

[@Cccoast]

I have to disagree with you. Writing on an ipad pro is a NIGHTMARE. It's awful unless you slowly take notes. Also, eyestrain... it's really... eink is much better. Also, when you have 7 notebooks of paper filled with things like math and graphing... eink is a solution. As for illustration.... procreate is amazing, nothing beats it. ... Productivity.... you can tag your notes man.

[@Beefis99]

The Smartpen/note taking tech still feels nascent and not mainstream yet. (For writing, transcribing, searching and syncing across tools) What's the best option at the moment? Kindle (especially next Oasis) will still likely be the best e-reader for kindle books I imagine - do you agree?

[@moviewryter1985]

Thank you for the video and sharing. Very useful to know. If I wanted to journal, keep notes, keeps list, etc.. and want a simple (non-distracting, no internet or apps) (non-glare) lightweight, paper-like device that must be able to easily file, easily sort and easily retrieve files I create, not as heavy as a tablet and mobile. Do you have a recommendation for a better device I should look at? I'm thinking it's the kindle scribe (that I am about to preorder) but I'm not fully convinced either.. and if there's a just-as-good and simpler than the ipad device out there that does the. journal, notes, making list but and has easy/file/retrieval I would love to find it.

[@freedomfighter5222]

You could take a look at the Onyx Boox Note 2 (or one of their other models). It is as distraction-free as you want it to be. BUT it is Android based and therefore you have so many more possibilities than any other eink device out there. Have suggested Tom to test it, let’s see if he does… 😊

[@paperlessmove]

Thanks for bringing this up again! We are about to get our hands on it! The feature set of the Onyx looks very promising!

[@paperlessmove]

@@freedomfighter5222 good news, we've just ordered the Onyx Boox Air Note 2 Plus :) Expect a review video soon!

[@MargaretGeorgemgse]

@@freedomfighter5222 I just looked up the Onyx Boox ranges, and they look really useful for my needs, if a little pricey. Then I noticed all of the images on the positive reviews have the poor users holding their hands off the screen in that awkward painful hold we all have to use on an iPad or a Surface. So where is the advantage in hand annotation?

[@heldemel2035]

thank you. I think you have just persuaded me to swop my iPad mini for a 10" one. I wasn't clear about what problem I was trying to solve but now I am 🙏

[@TinyFlyThing]

people still wanting something else then an ipad often comes down to the apple pencil not feeling right. apple needs to rework that thing, it just feels heavy and slippy and wrong. I honestly considered the scribe for scribbling (even without pressure sensitivity) just because i like the pen a little bit more. all the features don't help, if you don't like using the thing. Apple ipad with wacom tech would be the dream... but it will probably never happen.

[@nonabgo]

Yeah, except some people will never pay money to Apple. And for me, the lack of glare and the handwriting is enough. I need something to replace my notebook, I write a lot by hand but want to stop wasting paper and save space in my home. Also, replacing my old Kindle with a new one which has this extra option is incentive enough.

[@impulsesystems]

Its only advantages are battery life and visibility in direct sunlight. I considered e-ink for reading books but you're right: the iPad has so much more to offer.

[@skamarfire]

Good luck reading a book without getting into all kinds of distractions

[@mysticsailor9]

and so you state the exact right reasons why the Ipad is useless.

[@UncleRob_2017]

3:00 🤦‍♂️ This guy just said "if you want a good pen and paper experience, just draw on paper and scan it with your iPad!" Or I could use a rM2 or AKS and accept that everything has limitations. 🤔

[@KL-xv5gj]

Very objective and down to earth review. Color always counts...e-ink just fore reader, not digital writing pad

[@ventura1957]

This counter advertisement. I don't think Kindle scribe has better hardware tham remarkable 2 but it has access to Amazon library what makes a huge difference.

[@mouwangwang7934]

Don’t buy? -> preordered 😎

[@MargoBeatty]

You can turn down the brightness on your device to reduce eyestrain! Here is the solution for turning your iPad into a black and white device to save your eyes from strain or if you prefer reading that way! Go to Settings> Accesibility> Display & Text Size> Color Filters and switch on “Color Filters” underneath the colored pencils and check “Greyscale” now you have a black & white iPad to read with anytime you like! When you want to switch back to color all you have to do is “Triple press your home button” (that is if you have one my iPads are old 2012 & 2017) and it will return to color. There are many other amazing things you can do with the Accessibility and assistive touch features but that would require a deep dive into all the possibilities - I use many of these features. They work both on my iPhone, iPad, and IPad Pro. Hope this helps someone! Thanks for the video!

[@nonabgo]

There's still glare. It's not only about the lack of color.

[@thebigt42]

You haven't even seen it yet!

[@TNValleyVideos]

Great review Tom. Couldn’t agree more. For years I’ve used iPad with PaperLike and Noteshelf app. It works great. But I decided to try RM2, and I gave it 3 weeks. I felt like I had stepped back decades of productivity. I could give you 20 reasons how/why iPad is the best device for handwriting productivity.

[@paperlessmove]

Thanks for the great feedback and sharing your experiences with us here, Jim! 🙌

[@moiraohara]

For handwriting it is but for reading for long times it hurt the eyes. I love both i am lucky to have boths

[@sethkahanongrandchallenges6306]

Jim, I'd like to hear some of those 20 reasons, please.

[@TNValleyVideos]

@@sethkahanongrandchallenges6306 Here are the most important two for me: ability to work in different colors and efficiency of having one device. Look, no matter how much we say we want/need a distraction-free device, chances are we keep that distraction device (i.e., smartphone, tablet) very near us at all times anyway. Why not just work with one device? One other thing, I like the organization methodology of Noteshelf way better than what RM2 offered, though in fairness that might be because I was more used to it. I remember when I took the RM2 back to DHL, the only carrier that handles returns, the lady at the front desk said, "We get a lot of these."

[@TNValleyVideos]

One other thing, if you have Paperlike on your iPad, I can all but guarantee you won't notice a material/demonstrable difference with how handwriting feels on iPad vs RM2.

[@mifrasmohamed3473]

I do own iPad and eink device Boox Note Air 2 Plus. I prefer Note Air 2 Plus over iPad. It's very subjective. What I don't like about your video is the fact you always try hard to objectifying your subjective views and experience. This is nothing but an attempt to compare apple to oranges.

[@leeleo9615]

Can't agree more. Eink devices is just so lacking in terms of functionality. I can only think of them as digital version of paper note books, offering excellent writing feel compared to an ipad of course that's good, but also comes with the inefficiency of a real notebook. Even if you can export the notes, you can't change it, link them, search them. So I would say this type of devices is just a digital version of notebook. You get what you get with a real notebook from these devices, and them some sharing capability, and that's basically it. If you use a few apps to build a workflow of knowledge management or something like that, eink tablet is not a good choice. If you don't do that, just want a notebook to replace your paper notebook, then it's worth a try.

[@paperlessmove]

Well said, Lee! Thanks for sharing 🙌

[@mrz1342]

Hi, I’m happy to find your channel tonight, and immediately I subscribed :) I bought and refund remarkable 2 because of all limitations you mentioned and then I came to by new kindle and again disappointed. Finally because all what you said and I’m totally agreed, I am going to buy an iPad only for my reading and writing. I own 12.9 M1 for my business and it’s heavy and big for reading and writing. I tested new 8.3 mini and it was small for my hands. Then I bought and refund 11 pro but it was expensive to keep only for reading and writing! Finally after lots of searching, I decided to buy 10.2 (9th generation) with economy price, thin and light weight, and in good size for my needs. My question to you is: did I make the right decision or you have another and better option for me and my needs? Thank you

[@mysticsailor9]

Your title is as relevant as "don't buy a Toyota Camry..Get an onion instead!"

[@darrenhurrell]

Genius. Not released yet but already decided what it’s like. I’m not going to watch anymore of your videos but have decided you clearly don’t know what you are talking about.

[@Ravp90]

Their agenda = they sell courses for ipad apps

[@JK-zn7hl]

I do hope Amazon watch this video

[@fjfjrfjfjr]

Thank you sir!! All true!!

[@jon_almas]

I think you missed the mark here. It doesn't really compete with the iPad

[@BrianHallmond]

iPad will be too distracting bro! Most people want to escape from all the crap that sucks us into social media etc.

[@ZTim-b2j]

At the time of the making of the video Kindle Scribe wasn't even out. Also why would you compare a tablet to an eink device? This video makes no sense.

[@pinball16]

Why would you want an apple product? three times the cost and not even e-ink. unsubscribed.

[@toranshaw4029]

Think I'll stick with the iPad, danke! 👍

[@cheefussmith9380]

Ipad? These seems like an ad

[@kahouaoieong7838]

nonsense non argument. Will someone buy a car instead of a bike because it’s faster?. People buy and ride bikes for convenience, health or sports. Kindle Scribe is essentially a different product type than iPad which fulfils very different needs.

[@bessuges]

quick and bad analysis only for a feature that you never use with paper..

[@lukeflyswatter3203]

Ha, the dislikes on this video are almost as great as the likes. Also lots of disagreeing comments. I tried drawing on an iPad pro and it sucks.

[@pastlives8420]

The point is that it's e ink you maniac. Also an iPad pro costs like over $1,000 what is wrong with you. This is the equivalent of saying like well this motorized scooter sucks, you'd be better off buying a car. Who is this helping?

[@drunclewallace8924]

I spend premium to buy Kindle Scribe because iPad or even iPad Pro will stress my eyes within 15mins. For that reason alone, it's worth to get an e-ink device. Ask yourself, how much does your eye worth?

[@dazbow7573]

The ipad is a ipad the new kindle is a new kindle the remarkable is a remarkable. All said and done the ipad is not Eink if your looking for a Eink device then it's not going to be a ipad. If you want a Mercedes car don't buy a mini. If you want a eink device then the new kindle is the way forward. Not a ipad

[@peregrinofamily]

Evernote + Rocketbook (scanned using Scannable) is the way to go. Evernote premium searches really well for words on handwritten notes scanned thru Scannable.

[@erickbourdin4039]

Hi Tom Why are you so « up-set » about Remarkable and similar devices ( I know nothing about the new Kindle)? As you may know since long, I use both the RM ( still using the RM 1) and the iPad (iPad pro 10.5 with pencil gen 1) in varied occasions … Yes Apple Notes is a fantastic Note Taking App, and I use it a lot, yes Procreate is a second to none drawing tool (requires quite an experience anyway) but, when I want to draft something, do some math, try to sketch a diagram, I use RM as I was using paper … without loosing it or piling Notebooks, c an’t tel you why, but in those occasions I am more confortable on a RM than on the iPad. Indeed, when I use those notes either on iPad or RM, to produce a final doc … I retype them, rephrase correctly, draw ´neatly … on a Mac (home) or a PC (work). I should confess that I am not as « integrated » as you are with ICOR cause I use the bespoke tools of the company I work for … may be it’s one of the reason why … I see that you are always very passionate about Productivity in the digital ecosystem and I like it ! Kind Regards Erick

[@paperlessmove]

Thanks for your comprehensive feedback, Erick! Tom actually also uses the RM for the same reasons as you do. Sketiching,drafting instead of using paper. But this is what he also pointed out in the video. It's good for this reason, but it's hard to use it as an integrated tool with other productivity tools and therefore adds friction. Something, that is no longer state of the art and could have been improved by Amazon, offering the first e-ink device with a proper integration functionality, or at least some proper OCR functionalities. For not providing this, the price tag to have device that just replaces sketching paper, is pretty steep.

[@epickillers1030]

This is my friend's second Kindle. kzbin.infoUgkxOnUR4NaproSbBbD2sdI4XcDZ58Jz8GOx The first one which is about 5 or 6 years old quit charging because the bottom connector went bad. When I saw they upgraded to a USB C connector I knew it was time. I think the old USB Micro connectors are a PIA. Her new one is great. It synced right out of the box and connected to WiFi immediately. The thing is perfect! Sooo mine will arrive tomorrow. (Been reading off an old Fire) What bugs me are the reviewers that give this product one star because it didn't work out of the box or they were too dumb to figure it out. If it doesn't work send it back and get another one. It couldn't be easier with Amazon. Giving it one star because it didn't work says nothing about a good one that does work. I bet a bad one is one in a thousand or more. Give it a break...just get another one.

[@denisepinet9472]

eink devices have better battery life.