Kinetic Hot Racing Double barrel shock upgrade kit for the scx24! Testing on the hard body Toyota!

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@famlopez9800
@famlopez9800 4 жыл бұрын
Just when I told myself- no more spending on my scx24.. here come theses shocks extension. You've earned a subscriber. Thank you sir
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it! It seems like every time I plan to settle down on my spending something really cool comes out. If I could just stay off the internet I’d have plenty money 😂
@billbergen9169
@billbergen9169 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc Money is meant to spend.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@billbergen9169 that’s what I always say. I can’t take it with me so heck with it. My kids just gonna have to work their entire life like I do 😆
@billbergen9169
@billbergen9169 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc Yeah lol
@BigWarningSign
@BigWarningSign 3 жыл бұрын
Loool I did the same thing, I was like ok I have the wheel weights so I don’t need anything else… oh but the diff covers went for 15 % today.
@bakedtoperfection
@bakedtoperfection 4 жыл бұрын
I work at Kinetic and wanna put out an FYI. We’re putting up the days production at 4pm pst each afternoon, usually 25-50 sets. Thanks for the support everybody!
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet!!! Thanks for the info!
@JayMillz517
@JayMillz517 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for supporting the truck.
@BlvlWmpower
@BlvlWmpower 4 жыл бұрын
I love cannabis and crawlers, too! Finally another RC stoner friend.
@MelbourneExclusive0
@MelbourneExclusive0 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find some?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@MelbourneExclusive0 they usually post them everyday to eBay around 4pm pacific. That’s what I’ve been told by kinetic anyway. Good luck! They sell out quick lol
@ryanwilliams3157
@ryanwilliams3157 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man don't apologize for the long videos..very informative and cover everything we're thinking as your doing mods ...plus lengthy videos great to watch when working on my C10
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that! I always finish a video and wonder to myself how in the world people cover stuff in 8-10 mins lol
@benallbaugh
@benallbaugh 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again,just ordered mine. P.S. limiting straps
@gfyracing7632
@gfyracing7632 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your longer videos because you are keeping it real and giving great advice and information. I am keeping your channel as my first go to for anything I am looking to do as I am very new to this hobby in this form. I've already posted my Deadbolt's first crawl. Thank you for all you do.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! I love to hear of new people coming into the hobby! It wasn’t long ago I was totally new and I have had so much help it’s been amazing. I still don’t know much compared to a lot of people but you learn something every day!
@gfyracing7632
@gfyracing7632 4 жыл бұрын
Between you upgrade how-to's, reviews and your indoor course build, I feel your channel is giving me the best information in a way I personally can learn from better than any other channel o have found. Tho I still learn from others, this is definitely my go to. I have found one minor adjustment I have done to my Deadbolt that made a difference in obstacle approach and that was moving the front bumper back to the last hole making it closer to the chassis. It's the only thing I have done so far but made a big difference.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@gfyracing7632 yeah I always do that as well. Never really thought about mentioning that on video but probably should. That approach makes a huge difference! I really appreciate you watching and I’m happy to hear that the channel helps out. It makes it worth the extra time of shooting the videos and editing etc lol
@g1lee975
@g1lee975 4 жыл бұрын
pretty cool that you adopted. The world appreciates you and your big heart.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that! People always talk about how we changed our kids lives so much but honestly they did way more for ours. Best thing that ever happened to us for sure!
@slidingsidewaysrc91376
@slidingsidewaysrc91376 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a SCX24 with the C10 body.. now i need these! Dont apologize for a long video brother! Very insightful! Thsnk you.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate you subbing as well!
@slidingsidewaysrc91376
@slidingsidewaysrc91376 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc keep up the killer work bro!
@smallcrawlrc3425
@smallcrawlrc3425 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review! My big takeaway from this one is these might not be right for every application. After installing in the laydown position on a deadbolt w/ Patagonias I too experienced the front driveshaft issue. Remounting on the shock towers helped with that. They help a ton on descending and gaps, but raise the COG enough to hinder on steep inclines. I think the suggestions in the comments about limiting straps are a great idea. It's hard to find the happy medium with weight and balance. Keep up the good work and thanks for spending sooo much time and $$ for our SCX 24 community!!
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! I think the limit straps would work but then I’m just like well my shorter shocks also worked really well lol. I’m probably gonna be installing these on the dig rig and moving those shocks to the 4ws rig and all will be good lol
@furyss1tv184
@furyss1tv184 4 жыл бұрын
I got them after watching this and put them on my c10. Helped a lot but really helped after i put on the hr steering knuckles and full send wheel weights. Thanks for the r and d for us.lol
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad to know you’re liking them! Thanks for watching!
@darrylk27
@darrylk27 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the original version as soon as I saw them on your channel . I love them . My deadbolt is stretched and widened and has a fair bit of weight added and 95% done with hot racing as well. Looks good crawls insane .
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I absolutely love them on the 2 rigs I’m running them on. This one with the hard body they didn’t do so well. Probably could’ve limited them a bit but then what’s the point of having all that travel and limiting it lol
@greenmondaymorning
@greenmondaymorning 3 жыл бұрын
27:25 You mentioned the rear having too much travel on a vertical climb. If you put a chain from the center of the rear axel to the frame you can stop the entire rear end from dropping to far from the body but it will still be able to fully flex. Depending on how much chain you use and the right conditions of course.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve just never been a big fan of limit straps. They work ok but kinda ugly usually. I honestly just prefer a little less travel on most rigs.
@TheRightLine
@TheRightLine 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive. Next Upgrade. Just waiting to get my scx24 and the other parts I ordered.
@DRockDreamin
@DRockDreamin 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoying mine. I went with with the VLP spring too. Only issue I am having is the barrels tend to bind up a bit when going back into the resting position. It makes the bodysit higher and sit uneven. Probably pull them apart and try to polish them up a bit so them move freely and back into the lowest resting position
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the front wheels curl back and you have to pull the wheels apart to get it to rest flat. Honestly i think because the front links are shorter than the back ones the front shocks allow it to travel further. Think of how Mars travels around the sun faster than earth... that’s because it’s closer and has to travel less distance than earth. Not think that Mars is the front links and earth is that back links. Since Mars( front links) are closer or shorter to the sun( motor plate) it has more of a sharper curved travel. And the travel allows it to start and curl under itself, whereas the back links are long enough and they don’t have such a steep curve so they don’t start to curl in, they just extend down in a straight line before it has the chance to curl. And since the front curls in, you have to pull the wheels apart to sit it level
@Yan7001978
@Yan7001978 3 жыл бұрын
Droop is one of the most overlook thing by off road manufacturers in general. Those shock will be awesome on my scx
@dickfitzwelliner2807
@dickfitzwelliner2807 3 жыл бұрын
Over looked everywhere including lift kits for real trucks. Sadly it's an important factor
@DArealCHAZZ
@DArealCHAZZ 3 жыл бұрын
I love my double barrel racing shocks in my opinion it makes it a little more interesting to crawl with all the different flexes everyone have a great day and a great crawl
@1956willys4x4
@1956willys4x4 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty love the channel and the long videos
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad the long vids work cause sometimes I just can’t help but ramble on and on lol
@brodyduncan1869
@brodyduncan1869 2 жыл бұрын
There’s also a way to limit how much the springs stretch out when going up steep hills while still getting the same amount of flex in the shocks. You can attach some rubber bands to the 2 bottom links and to the chassis
@mj8839
@mj8839 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos and keeping them real! Always watch your videos while working on my own scx24, can say I've learned alot bout the rc hobby out of your videos so thank you and they are very helpful for Many of us I'm sure. Keep em comin !
@willierule3744
@willierule3744 4 жыл бұрын
So it's cool that it's got all that Flex and that it doesn't change the ride height but you put a limiting strap right in the center of the front axle and you'll never have that issue and you'll stick it all the flex you want but the axle won't drop out so far I think that would work perfect
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah if I were leaving them on this truck I’d definitely wanna limit them some. But what’s the point of having a ton of travel and then limiting it? These will be better on one of my 4ws rigs!
@EQ541
@EQ541 4 жыл бұрын
It’s gunna take a while to get some of these I can feel it.. great upgrade! Awesome idea!
@GeezerGramps
@GeezerGramps 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a set to try on my stock Jeep I think I’d try the stiffer springs in the back. It appears that it would hold up the rear of the truck better. Putting the shock in the stock location might help too.
@ronmayo4041
@ronmayo4041 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your run. Very nice truck
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@The96civicrider
@The96civicrider 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased these shocks and after installing them with the vlp springs I instantly didn't like them. The truck climbed and desended allot worse mounted in the chassis like you said. I put them back to stock mounting location and swapped the stock scx springs on for a more lcg stance and it was allot better. Try putting the stock springs on and i think it's allot better
@JdubU
@JdubU 3 жыл бұрын
I know it was over a year ago but Climb was very impressive!
@2442dale
@2442dale 3 жыл бұрын
Good review! I did however buy a set of the kinetics before finding this video, and installed them last night and had the same issue with the front drive shaft coming out due to too much droop. I love this truck and may just have another project lined up just to keep the kinetics around. All in all I found answers I needed from the video, and honesty is a good characteristic to have, in order to give great answers. Keep it up!
@jeremiebaker5136
@jeremiebaker5136 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I shouldn't admit it but I ordered three sets of these for the stock shock version. Looking forward to trying these out. Parts go fast for these things so if I catch something in stock I buy it for each of our SCX24's (1 Jeep, 1 C10, & 1 Deadbolt).
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I’m the same way. I have 2 sets of the stock setup as well. Plus these hot racing. I’m still sitting on 2-3 barrage motors,2 sets of hot racing +4mm axles and 2-3 sets of hot racing steering links because I bought so many when they came in stock 😂
@arcterus01
@arcterus01 4 жыл бұрын
I saw your video on the ones for the stock shocks and got excited lol. I have the HR shocks and ordered those barrels this morning before seeing this video. I'm still excited, looks like travel limiters might be in need.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! I think they will be great with a little work. They are a great product. I just never really planned for them to be on this truck long term. I just wanted to test them to see how it did as is basically.
@SouthsideRC
@SouthsideRC 4 жыл бұрын
Bummed that Treal’s customer service is bad. I just got a bunch of their stuff too. You’re totally right, Full Send and Kinetic have been awesome for me too. Same goes for Bang Gear RC and Shaka Hobbies. Great video!
@KnightenDaise
@KnightenDaise 3 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I think they were great mounted in your initial locations, however, it needs limiting straps. That would keep it from flexing down so far and thus binding your driveshafts. Should be a wicked performer if ya do that.
@Sgtfroso1
@Sgtfroso1 3 жыл бұрын
both tires at full droop essentially is raising your center of gravity and may bind shock also from lateral forces
@rhm9178
@rhm9178 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Apparently Kinetic has two versions of the double barrel kits for 1/24 scale shocks. Original version kit for Axial SCX24 shocks: > Kinetic Brand Double Barrel shock upgrade kit, Axial SCX24 1:24th scale crawler New Version kit specifically for HR shocks: > Kinetic Brand Over/Under shock upgrade kit, for HR SXTF326R01 At the time of writing this comment both Kinetic versions are now out of stock. Hope this helps in knowing the difference and which kit you should buy depending upon the shocks you have in hand: Axial SCX24 or HR SXTF326R01 Rock on!
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah these are supposed to be the new version for the hot racing shock. I already have their stock version. The stock version won’t allow the hot racing caps to thread onto them. I talked to kinetic and they think they may have accidentally sent me the wrong barrels since there is only a .002” difference between the two sets. No big deal. I made them work and knew there had to be some odd reason it happened. I just wanted to make sure no one else had the same issue down the road!
@rhm9178
@rhm9178 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc thanks for the kindness in reply regarding this subject matter. After seeing your video I checked Kinetic eBay store; since we live in 🇬🇧, we are more hours ahead of you and Kinetic in CA. We notice the stock available disappeared quickly. We can only assume they took note of your contacting them and took down their listing to check the issue you brought to their attention. We think there could have been a slight mix up of component pieces for both versions being sold. Why? Because the day they released their HR version, we contacted them enquiring about original version and were told they would be uploading them and were given the eBay ID for originals. We cannot find the listing as it still hasn't been uploaded. Now it makes sense; a slight mix up occurred and you were given a barrel piece for the originals and not the new HR version; as stated the difference is marginal and the error is legit; we are all only human. The beautiful thing is: Kinetic are brilliant and on top of things; great customer service, even for us here 🇬🇧 over the pond. You are right in giving them a positive shout for customer service & a honest negative share about your experience with Treal. In our humble opinion we total agree with you: if a company can't reply within a reasonable time frame, they don't deserve our hard earned money: NEXT COMPANY & NEXT CUSTOMER SERVICE! BRILLIANT 2FM RC. Truly love your vids, your time in sharing your experiences, and most importantly your transparent honesty! Keep the vids coming; very helpful for us over here 🇬🇧, when it comes to buying from companies over there; especially in the 1/24 scale crawlers and 3rd party mods. Keep ROCKIN ON brother! Cheers from the 🇬🇧 🤝
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@rhm9178 oh man! What a great response. Thanks so much for the kind words about the channel. I’m glad it’s helpful for others. I really take for granted how easy it is for us here in the US to acquire items like these. It makes me want to be more and more detailed on these items when showing them off lol. I think they may have pulled them like you said. I’m sure they will get it all sorted very soon and be back up and running again! I know the last thing they would wanna do is to mix up any more of these and have a widespread issue. Glad they are on top of it as well as they are! Thanks again for watching. It’s really appreciated
@echobeefpv8530
@echobeefpv8530 4 жыл бұрын
That FLEX !!!! Man, I'm so jealous !! I'd buy these in a heartbeat, if they sold in Canada. Totally agree, they are a genius idea. Shipping to Canada sucks, import charges and such. Kinetic deserves a big shout out. As for you being straight up, I don't think you would ever sell out; your just not that guy. As for too much flex, is the driveshaft as long as it can be ? Lovin this channel, I would rather a longer video than less detail.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Really appreciate you watching and commenting. I could possibly extend the driveshaft a bit. Not sure. It may be too long when not extended. I’d probably go with limit straps if I was gonna keep them on this truck
@echobeefpv8530
@echobeefpv8530 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc yea that came to mind as well, limiters, but then seems to defeat the purpose ? I was just checking out the Hot Racing Driveshaft. Also, would modified links ( bent style, but I don't know the name for them ) help this situation ? I'm still kinda new to all this , but changing the geometry of the links may affect this. Cheers !!
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
So sick! Once my shocks come in i will have everything upgraded except for the skid plate, motor, esc, and battery. I’ve spent way too much on this🤦🏼‍♂️😂
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
It happens quick don’t it? I have several that I feel that way about 😆
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc very quick😂 i didn’t even know about these 2 months ago and now I’m addicted. I have so many different brands, like hot racing, treal, KYX, and CODA racing. Thankfully they are all working pretty good.
@MudMonsterRacing4
@MudMonsterRacing4 4 жыл бұрын
I have the stock shock kinetics on my deadbolt. I was thinking about laying mine down like yours but after seeing the binding I guess I'll let them alone. Definitely a good upgrade.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
You could try it and see but this truck was a deadbolt originally and has the deadbolt length links etc so it would probably react about the same. The heavy hard body makes a difference as well
@tenncutt
@tenncutt 4 жыл бұрын
"It's like Hot Racing threw up on it!" No wonder it's sick! Lol. Great video
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! It’s a fun truck. Just don’t care for these shocks on it. I prefer a shorter set with the hard body
@tenncutt
@tenncutt 4 жыл бұрын
So do you have extended hubs?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@tenncutt at the moment I’m running some mil stone wideners on it.
@rustysrcgarage6935
@rustysrcgarage6935 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could add a limiting strap dead center of the axle. That way you could still get the full flex travel, but it would keep the axles from completely dropping. Just a thought.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
I probably would do that if I planned to leave them on this truck. I just prefer the shorter setup on this hard body I believe. These were meant for my 4ws rig or atlas honestly lol
@darrylk27
@darrylk27 3 жыл бұрын
Put the c10 links and drive shaft on it . That's how I fixed the drive shift issue . Gives the shocks a better looking angle as well
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
My main issue with this truck is the hard body is so heavy. The double barrels don’t do well with that much weight tugging on them all the time. It’s constantly unloading the suspension when going up or down hill.
@johngookinsable
@johngookinsable 4 жыл бұрын
I have a couple 1/24 scale myself and this is some useful info thanks bro!
@Sgtfroso1
@Sgtfroso1 3 жыл бұрын
limiting strap in the middle. still get flex but it will limit full droop when both tires are not gripping at incline
@hsklar5941
@hsklar5941 3 жыл бұрын
to deal with the problem at 25:16, try using the pen spring mod
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I just pulled them from this truck. Never really intended to use them on it anyway. They work great when the truck is set up for them!
@andyrichey1192
@andyrichey1192 4 жыл бұрын
I like longer videos, keep them coming
@gearjah9957
@gearjah9957 2 жыл бұрын
Super informative video, I learned a lot for my future upgrades!
@tiredofinsanity
@tiredofinsanity 4 жыл бұрын
On a side note. I used a cut or ring and drilled a hole to space the hot racing shock off the mount just a touch so it wasn't so tight..feel like it was binding otherwise. I can send u some pics if you want
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had any issue with mine. Where are they mounted?
@tiredofinsanity
@tiredofinsanity 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc just factory spot haven't messed with that yet. Could have been because their design is a little different with the mounting deals.
@SlavaRC
@SlavaRC 3 жыл бұрын
Exelent tune axi24, thanks my friend!)🤩💥💯👍👏
@geraldanthony7324
@geraldanthony7324 4 жыл бұрын
That’s some major flex 🔥👊🏾✌🏽
@echobeefpv8530
@echobeefpv8530 4 жыл бұрын
Kinetic on the job.....I may have to check there shipping to Canada...we have nothing like this in Canada, as far as I know.
@the_car_guy5915
@the_car_guy5915 3 жыл бұрын
I bought some knock-off hot racing shocks and I had to use the stock springs because the ones that came with them were WAY too stiff.
@parkeryj3135
@parkeryj3135 4 жыл бұрын
You should put a limit strap on the center of the axles so that the axles don’t swing down and forward under the chassis, bu it can still pivot flex wise with only one strap in the middle of the axle
@sitlos.
@sitlos. 4 жыл бұрын
Could u try those shocks again but have them in the stock position? Really curious how they would do then? Kinda want them for my c10 but would love to have that info before I buy if possible? Appreciate it and thanks. Have a great day sir. 😁👍✌️
@K_Nasty
@K_Nasty 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats man. Cool setup
@elijahcavin2408
@elijahcavin2408 3 жыл бұрын
Bet if the bed was bobbed it wouldn't allow that axle to go up underneath the truck. Looks like descending was hindered though
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it definitely wouldn’t hurt if the body was hacked up a bit. I never really built this one to be a crazy performer. I’m not real big on the cut up hard bodies. Someone else said I needed to drop it down over the shock mounts etc but I didn’t really build it that way because I think that looks stupid. It would help performance for sure but I hate that look lol. I swapped these double barrels over to my flatbed power wagon and they work really well. The weight of the hard body up high was just too much for them I think.
@caseyroorda4944
@caseyroorda4944 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Almost 2k subs already.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe it!!! The rate that it’s growing is beyond me. I’m so thankful for every single sub!
@caseyroorda4944
@caseyroorda4944 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc And it will just get faster.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@caseyroorda4944 well I kinda hope but I also enjoy the spot it’s at now. I can still answer most comments lol. I still lose quite a few but if I search enough I can still find them and keep up. I know eventually it’ll be too much! I’m trying tho lol
@zanejackson8071
@zanejackson8071 4 жыл бұрын
You need a servo trans for one of those things!
@TurncoatTony
@TurncoatTony 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, appreciate it. Those tired didn't look like they wanted to catch grip lol. :(
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No they didn’t! I really liked those tires when I got them but now that I’ve ran a few others they are not the greatest for my course. I really need to change them out soon lol
@hemitj
@hemitj 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. Any possibility of a comparison of the Kinetic Double Barrel vs. Carisma? Do you have any link for the Carisma (?) shocks?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I plan to do an updated shock comparison at some point. I have several new options since my last comparison. My last set of carismas I got directly from their website but shipping took a bit. I normally try to find them on eBay. Here’s a set that’s available now. www.ebay.com/itm/Carisma-Aluminum-Oil-Filled-Shock-Set-for-MSA-1E-4pcs-/114042450811?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy kinetic probably made well over $5,000 in a couple weeks just from these shocks.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt! I like supporting a company that’s thinking outside of the box for these parts though. They could’ve just released another set of the hot racing shocks with their name stamped on them like everyone else 😂
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc definitely well deserved
@steverolfeca
@steverolfeca 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of Kinetics just for the back of my Deadbolt. If they’re giving you too much droop at the front, maybe you need a limiting strap or straps?
@MudMonsterRacing4
@MudMonsterRacing4 4 жыл бұрын
you unning stock shocks in the front? I have all 4 kinetics on my deadbolt. Never thought of only trying 2.
@carloshnunez
@carloshnunez 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, maybe if you install a limit travel strap will help
@jk-guy4226
@jk-guy4226 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it’s possible to install a spacer inside one of the barrels to keep them from fully extending.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
I bet you could. I didn’t really plan to run them on this truck so I didn’t try too many mods for it. That would probably work tho!
@Supaslow5.3
@Supaslow5.3 3 жыл бұрын
You should take some fishing line and use it as limiting straps
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of people have said that. I honestly hate using limit straps though. Not sure why. It’s just a thing for me lol. Kinetic just sent me some straps they came out with for them. Just haven’t had a chance to test them out. I honestly just prefer a good set of oil filled shocks with some soft springs. They are soooo smooth!
@DustinWoloschuk
@DustinWoloschuk 4 жыл бұрын
great video as always!!!! Just like a full size truck, if you jack then up to much, you have u joint problems. there's a fix though... legally just mimic what they do in full size just scale it like everything else
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah just takes a little work and they get better and better! I didn’t do too much to try making them work at their best on this truck just because I don’t plan to leave them there long lol
@DustinWoloschuk
@DustinWoloschuk 4 жыл бұрын
wish somebody would come out with something for the jeeps and c10s that are just slightly longer then stock but not too long, but that will also hold some oil or grease that leak all over and make a mess
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@DustinWoloschuk lol yeah that would be nice! Have you ran the cr24s? I really like them on my Jeep. Just long enough but not carisma long lol
@tijdrovers68
@tijdrovers68 3 жыл бұрын
you need to make axlestraps... then you have more crossaxled wheeltravel, but on a climb like on the spot where you loos you driveshaft, then you don't have to mutch
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought about it but never really planned to run them on this truck so I just moved them over to another truck. I didn’t really build this one for a max flex type rig so wasn’t too worried about it. Limit straps should work well tho!
@tijdrovers68
@tijdrovers68 3 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc i don't like to spend a lot of money on my first ftx mini outback 2.0... i made some alu shockmounts and have big wheeltravel. 1wheel 6cm up... quit big for a small rig... now i bin thinking how to make my own double barrel shocks... for more flex, front and rear, for good ballance.... i love your last vid with esc mod, slow crawling😍 to mutch money for me
@bradynpeters
@bradynpeters 4 жыл бұрын
You could build a vacuum form for next to nothing, and do a vacuum mold of that body. Lighten it up, and also I would buy one.
@stoneydrivesrc7420
@stoneydrivesrc7420 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about using straps to limit your stretch ? Awesome videos brother keep on keeping on !!!!!!
@tenncutt
@tenncutt 4 жыл бұрын
That would be cool if the shock kit came with limiting straps
@tiredofinsanity
@tiredofinsanity 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the hot racing kit last night 😄
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
They are great! Just not what I’m going for on this truck. They will be perfect for a couple of my other rigs. I think the heavy body is the biggest issue for this one. Tons of travel and that much weight up high is not a good combination lol
@tiredofinsanity
@tiredofinsanity 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc ya like I said my jk was super "boingy" but I still like the travel. . mostly it's the turning that seems to take issue with it. I'm gonna throw the hot racing set on the buggy I think and then my second set of stock kinetic kits on my c10. Oddly the stock shocks on my deadbolt work amazing with the way I built the suspension and lifted the body. It wheels the best out of the bodied ones but the buggy still dominates all!
@chrisprice1603
@chrisprice1603 4 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video and review. I received my K-DD shocks today and installed on the JK. I find the VLP springs a bit to weak and the LP's too much. Thinking about cutting the VP's and screeching them out to the same length, hopefully to make them slightly softer. Thoughts??
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate that. I’ve heard of a few people doing this and then some stretching the stock springs also. Always worth a shot! That’s how I look at it lol
@ryanfredrickson832
@ryanfredrickson832 4 жыл бұрын
I really like watching your videos! Full of useful info and non biased opinion. I'm new to this rc Hobby starting small with the 1/24 crawlers. Where is the best place to pick up a set of these kinetic shock mods? Thanks for the video any input is appreciated!
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
So sorry I missed this comment. Trying to go through every video and check comments since I rarely get notifications anymore 🤦🏻‍♂️. They only sell on eBay so you gotta keep an eye out for them in there. Check the link in the description. It should be to their store and then follow their store and you’ll get notifications when they post. Thanks so much for watching and I’m so sorry I missed the comment.
@rogersanchez1006
@rogersanchez1006 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered them shock extenders last night before I went to bed
@Sneaks615
@Sneaks615 4 жыл бұрын
From wheee
@rcaddiction1956
@rcaddiction1956 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing I watched the whole video, make total since too much travel for the hard body like mine! How does the hard body mount so low to the frame?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I missed this comment. Trying to go through every video and check comments since I rarely get notifications 🤦🏻‍♂️. I actually have a video on how I mounted it! Just search for scx24 hard body mount and you should see my vid pop up! Or search my channel. Thanks for watching. Sorry I just now got back!
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my shocks and I’m having the same problem as you with the little metal shafts. The worst part is i don’t have anything but my hands and sand paper so i don’t wanna try to sand it like that, i ended up using the stock metal shaft but i wish they fit for what i paid for
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Did you message kinetic? I’m sure they will send you replacements. Sorry to hear someone else had the same issue. I was hoping I’d be the only one.
@AeneasMacdonaldEdits
@AeneasMacdonaldEdits 4 жыл бұрын
you should try out droop on this rig, it would eliminate all of your body roll and that thing would climb like a beast especially with the shock extensions giving downward flex. Just get some rubber bands attached to the chassis and lower links to bring them together and you will be able to climb much steeper stuff trust me.
@AeneasMacdonaldEdits
@AeneasMacdonaldEdits 4 жыл бұрын
it would also greatly lessen the chance on the front drive shaft binding up. I run droop on all my 1/10 rigs I would love to see you try it on your decked out 1/24
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@AeneasMacdonaldEdits yeah I’m actually running it on one of my C10 scx24s and it does really well. I may have to try it with these double barrel shocks to see how it does.
@AeneasMacdonaldEdits
@AeneasMacdonaldEdits 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc nice, ill have to check out a vid of that. Keen to see how it works with the long shocks. Kepp the great vids coming!
@alexchapman5872
@alexchapman5872 4 жыл бұрын
Make a limit strap on the rear so you still get the pivot of the axle
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I may have to try that! This set is really meant for my 4ws rig so I wasn’t too worried about making them work on this truck but that would be a good way to use them for sure!
@alexchapman5872
@alexchapman5872 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc I'm just waiting for you to try it before I do it to mine. You do good r&d. I really like those shocks id get them if that strap works out. I have the c10 so I like see what you do with it.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexchapman5872 I’ll try them on my C10 next!
@alexchapman5872
@alexchapman5872 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc hell ya man can't wait.
@d_ward4871
@d_ward4871 4 жыл бұрын
If you’re getting too much flex you could tie some string to each axle near each wheel at what ever length you see fit to limit how far the axles can drop Sometimes real rock crawlers and off road trucks do that. May help. Just a thought
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah some limit straps would work. I didn’t really plan to run them on this truck so I didn’t bother. I just wanted to test them on something a little different so we would know if they were a simple bolt on for any truck or needed a little work on certain builds. They are a perfect fit on my tube chassis dig rig with no work!
@andyrichey1192
@andyrichey1192 4 жыл бұрын
I like to get a set of those double barrel's, I went to the site, couldn't find nothing about the double barrel shocks .
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
They’ve been selling out pretty quick. Just keep checking from time to time.
@lastminutemisadventures5921
@lastminutemisadventures5921 3 жыл бұрын
If the screw won’t fit in a item then maybe kinetic should pay more attention to their screw head diameter
@docedits7294
@docedits7294 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what it would be like if you only put the doubles in the back? I notice with other rigs going up inclines it extends and flips back. So if it was only double in the back it may perform better?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a bit better but side hill and declines still suffer a lot. I have a video on their new recoil system for the double barrels that work decent if running the double barrels.
@docedits7294
@docedits7294 3 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc i ordered some all aluminum ones yesterday. I do plan on getting a whole other SCX24 specifically for climbing so I might just make this one my crawling rig or something lol
@rubiken06
@rubiken06 4 жыл бұрын
Cool shock kit
@rockwolfdesigns6384
@rockwolfdesigns6384 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Cinemoto's Double barrel shock mod. He fixes all the problems with fishing line.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I debated on doing some sort of limit straps but I just hate the look. Fishing line wouldn’t be bad I’m sure. Kinetic actually just came out with some of their own limit straps with springs on them and sent me a set. Just haven’t had time to try them out yet. I honestly just prefer the overall ride of some good oil filled shocks at this point.
@brianonthego
@brianonthego 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo of the shocks. I've been looking for a good buggy rock crawler all in one kit. Any recommendations? I looked at the Axial Capri 1/10..looks like you just need a battery and charger to complete.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
The axial Capra is the best crawler I’ve ever owned. It’s amazing. Even stock! I bought the rtr just because I never have time to build a full kit lol
@brianonthego
@brianonthego 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc I hope you have a video on yours I can check out. Looks like the kit was a 1000 piece puzzle. The ready to go version was 449 I think plus battery and charger. Is the transmitter, ESC and electronics usable, or did you use a different remote?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianonthego they are somewhat usable. The transmitter isn’t horrible. It’s not great but not terrible. The motor and esc will do ok for awhile but if you go with 2.2s or much weight the motor is gonna start smoking lol. I swapped all of my stuff out pretty quick. I would’ve been better off with a roller or something but like I said I never have time to build a kit so it was worth it to me. I do have a video showing the hobbywing fusion that I installed in my Capra that you can check out. I need to do a full rundown on my Capra soon!
@brianonthego
@brianonthego 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc I would like to see a video on yours. I like the idea of the kit then get all the right electronics and tires from the get go, and get a good transmitter. I think I have one of the transmitters it comes with someone gave me...and now I know why they gave it away.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianonthego I run mine on the flysky gt5. It works great. I set my dig up on the 3 way switch so it has locked,freewheel rear and off (normal) instead of just off and on. Setting the mid point let’s the rear roll freely and the front pull. It’s handy sometimes.
@rcglock9608
@rcglock9608 4 жыл бұрын
Since u r using a 3s battery and what looks a stock ae-6 esc I assume that the stock ae-6 esc is 3s compatible. Am I assuming correctly?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people always wonder about that and I have had no issues with running 3s on the stock esc setup. Its a bit more touchy on the throttle but overall handles it well. Just gotta watch motor temps lol
@rcglock9608
@rcglock9608 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc good to know tu
@vincefoley3763
@vincefoley3763 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my double barrels for my Deadbolt in last week. I tried to mount them in the position you had installed them as well, and my front drive shaft actually came all the way out. I am going to figure out how to get some shock straps to keep them from over extending. As a newbie to this hobby are there any performace advantages mounting shock like you have on your Toyota?
@jarrettford7090
@jarrettford7090 4 жыл бұрын
I have these but can’t figure out how to get the front to not fully extend out when going up a steep incline. They work great otherwise, flex is amazing and they are smooth.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the problem I was having with this heavy body pulling on them. Limit straps may be the answer. I have a set on my tube chassis rig and didn’t have an issue but it’s much lighter and barely any weight up high unlike the hard body truck.
@jarrettford7090
@jarrettford7090 4 жыл бұрын
My c10 is basically stock up top and has all the weight on the axles or in the links. An it’s still does it almost as bad as the hardbody. But I was thinking limiting straps too. I’ve seen someone use a rubber band.? You have any other ideas on what to use for a tiny limiting strap?
@BurgerurgerFPV
@BurgerurgerFPV 4 жыл бұрын
Having the same exact problem
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@BurgerurgerFPV I’m gonna try to work on the solution tomorrow and hopefully make a vid on it. If I can get time 🤦🏻‍♂️
@jarrettford7090
@jarrettford7090 4 жыл бұрын
@@BurgerurgerFPV I just made a limiting strap out of a rubber band and a paper clip. Hooked it to the servo tray and then to the Esc. It works nicely. Cant really see it either
@keithlea6804
@keithlea6804 4 жыл бұрын
What is that orange or red tube buggy? Looks like a mini avalanche sniper.( full size rock buggy) who makes it an how much. Want one. New the the channel and rc. But i like to spend my money once and build right the first time. So i try to do my homework before I jump into a project. Thank you for the video 👍
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
It’s also an scx24. It’s my “dig rig” that I installed front and rear dig on. You can find the tube chassis on shapeways.com just search scx24 and they have several. The one I have is called the rum runner. Thanks so much for checking out the channel! Let me know if you need anything else.
@mj8839
@mj8839 3 жыл бұрын
Also Im running the furitek Komodo with the lizard and I was wondering if your Komodo gets hot after very little run time?
@brianargo9306
@brianargo9306 3 жыл бұрын
Some people thinks a lot of drupe on ur suspension is a good thing. To much is worse then not enough! In something like that Toyota about 1" of travel because u don't want the tires falling down in holes. U want it to float the tire or carry it across most low points. It will also stop it from rolling over and will help with side hilling by tightening the compressor up on the shock it's self
@VermontScaleCustoms
@VermontScaleCustoms 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I've gone to find these they're gone. Is there a waiting list that you know of? They look pretty effing sweet. Need at least two sets.
@VermontScaleCustoms
@VermontScaleCustoms 4 жыл бұрын
Sh*t got real at about 25 minutes in! I have the Rubicon and a C10 and maybe they're not the best choice for either of those. Deadbolt, maybe?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@VermontScaleCustoms lol yeah it all depends on setup. Maybe some limit straps for a rig like this. They would probably be great on the deadbolt. Or most anything that needs much flex.
@SaltyBob355
@SaltyBob355 4 жыл бұрын
He's cranking them out as quick as possible, but they sell out fast. Set an alert on ebay so you know lickety split when they get up for sale.
@sakfpv8444
@sakfpv8444 4 жыл бұрын
I CANNOT find these shocks... I've been thinking of getting the Old man Emu 60?-70? mm shocks and mounting them at an angle somewhere on the chassis. I'm impressed as hell with the truck, she's just a bouncy lil girl. And I would like more smooth flex. I've added solder to a few places on the truck and it's starting to handle like it has some weight, which is nice. But I want these kinetic shocks! Where else can I find them besides ebay
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
They only sell on eBay for now. Just gotta stalk their store lol. I have the old man emu on one of my C10s. I like them with no springs. Not great but they work well with no springs. My favorite mid size shock is probably the aluminum CR24. They work awesome on my Jeep! If you need a ton of flex and can’t get the kinetics then you could always look for the oil filled carismas. They are sometimes hard to find also though. I think hot racing is going to be coming out with a new internal spring shock for the scx24 as well. Hopefully soon but I really have no idea when.
@sakfpv8444
@sakfpv8444 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc awesome man thanks for the quick, fact filled response! I'm going to look for those cr24 shocks, I love the way your truck handles the terrain. Soon I'm going to put one of my drones fpv cameras in mine and do a little trail run
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@sakfpv8444 that would be really cool. I’ve thought about that myself.
@tylerm124
@tylerm124 4 жыл бұрын
The longer shocks on that truck would work fine if you went way past scale and put those beefy tires on it.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. They work great on my tube chassis rig with the mudslingers. I never meant this truck to be built that way. They are easily some of the best shocks out there for max flex though.
@tylerm124
@tylerm124 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc have you thought about trying to use a travel limiter strap with the double barrel shocks on the c-10? Then maybe the wheels won't be able to get too far away from the frame but you still get the articulation of having those longer shocks. Like limit it to slightly longer than stock travel.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerm124 yeah I’ve been meaning to try it before I pull them from this rig. I never really planned to use them on this so I didn’t try too much to make them work but a lot of people are interested in making them work on a setup like this so I’ll probably try some straps before moving them.
@serrkk
@serrkk 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, awesome video! I was wondering, where did you get your Toyota body from?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 2 жыл бұрын
It was from a 1/20 Amt model kit. Very hard to find now. Flubberstufferz has some different 3D printed ones now. Worth checking out for sure! flubberstufferz.myshopify.com/collections/hilux
@josephprentice8354
@josephprentice8354 3 жыл бұрын
Can you post a link where you purchases the kinetic kit for the hot racing shocks
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
eBay is the only place they sell them. Here’s a set they have listed now www.ebay.com/itm/Kinetic-Brand-Over-Under-shock-upgrade-kit-for-HR-SXTF326R01-/254968233867?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
@ChilltimeRc2.4GHz
@ChilltimeRc2.4GHz 4 жыл бұрын
Look nice and realistic
@anarchyfred2391
@anarchyfred2391 4 жыл бұрын
What if you had the hot racing shock towers installed ?
@kennyaustin2253
@kennyaustin2253 2 жыл бұрын
What about running the stock HR shock up front and kinetic in the rear?
@tiredofinsanity
@tiredofinsanity 4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if your sposed to use the little o ring too....
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
What little o ring you talking about?
@tiredofinsanity
@tiredofinsanity 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc when I took mine apart there is a tiny pink o ring on the shock shaft
@kevinhuckabey4016
@kevinhuckabey4016 4 жыл бұрын
My over/under kit for the lower hobby shocks has a lot of slop and the shock hangs up when releasing. Does yours do this? I’ve not used pliers on the shaft.
@jakeasher4779
@jakeasher4779 4 жыл бұрын
Would this setup work on a panda hobby tetra k1 1/18 scale? Wheels tires hex size are all exact. Wondering what else is interchangeable
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
I would think so. I have the panda x2. I haven’t did much upgrading to it. Just swapped wheels and tires. I could try them on it sometime. I kinda like the oil filled shocks on the panda though. Pretty smooth!
@jakeasher4779
@jakeasher4779 4 жыл бұрын
They really are I’m just looking for a little more travel. I really like the way those look like the truck has weight like you can see them go down just from gravity
@jakeasher4779
@jakeasher4779 4 жыл бұрын
If the panda hobby trucks had more aftermarket parts I think it would be a superior truck to the scx but I guess I’m bias 😂
@MoonlightFox
@MoonlightFox 4 жыл бұрын
If these were oil-filled, they'd be perfect.
@framelawncare6671
@framelawncare6671 3 жыл бұрын
@@TurboTaco2JZ sealing those shocks would probably be a nightmare
@cheagle464
@cheagle464 3 жыл бұрын
Does the grease trick for stock shocks work with these. I'll be ordering anyway.
@22Yammyha450
@22Yammyha450 4 жыл бұрын
I’m digging all of your videos, keep up the great work. I’ve seen you running yellow shocks on one of your rigs... what shocks are they?
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Those are the rc4wd old man emu shocks. I run them on my gray c10 and love them on it. I’m running them full droop with no springs.
@22Yammyha450
@22Yammyha450 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc thanks buddy! I’ve subscribed to keep up to date on all your future videos.
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 4 жыл бұрын
@@22Yammyha450 thanks so much! I really appreciate it! Let me know if you need anything or wanna see something specific. I’ll try my best!
@22Yammyha450
@22Yammyha450 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fmrc I would like to see a video of the ThornBirds in action and how they compare to your favorite tires.
@brodyduncan1869
@brodyduncan1869 2 жыл бұрын
If you wanna prevent that monster truck stance, you can just put in smaller springs or remove the springs completely
@hsklar5941
@hsklar5941 3 жыл бұрын
what is that bouncer kit?? it looks sweet
@2fmrc
@2fmrc 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the rum runner cage from shapeways. I love it! Double barrels work great on it also
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