King John Was The Most Hated King Of England For A Reason

[@167curly]

The Magna Carta was definitely NOT infamous!

[@zarni000]

It was. It basically gave power to the barons to do as they please with the peasants

[@anthonywatts2033]

Eleanor! "Infamous"! NEVER. One of the most amazing English queen-consorts in history!

[@oriraykai3610]

Did you confirm that with Henry II, who couldn't turn his back on that witch? 🙄

[@Tinil0]

@@oriraykai3610 When the men have the power it's fine but when women have the power they are scheming witches. Eleanor is consistently criticized for things all her peers did, just because it was "unseemly" for a woman to do the same things.

[@3John-Bishop]

She was a strong woman for her time

[@uingaeoc3905]

SORRY - Magna Carta was not 'infamous' - look up what the word means - it is famous.

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

I believe they made that same mistake un Three Amigos. Magna Carta is in some ways the most important thing ever put to paper.

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

Or sheepskin

[@uingaeoc3905]

@@FrithonaHrududu02127 Vellum! Written in Gall.

[@seltonk5136]

From this first comment, I know enough to never watch these videos. How are people so dumb ?

[@jimorr820]

Unless you believe in absolute monarchy and divine right of kings or are named Trump. 😁

[@richardberkeley4511]

Actually, Magna Carta was not forgotten or ignored. Article 42 gave Englishmen a huge advantage of movement, and the judicial reforms fundamental to English law.

[@richardsuggs8108]

I agree. The document was a start towards Parliamentary rule.

[@burkanuck]

Yeah. That was a bizarre thing to say. The Magna Carta is one of the most important documents ever written.

[@paulwilson2651]

@@burkanuck Nope the Declaration of Arbroath is.

[@zarni000]

Magna Carta gave the feudal lords free reign to do as the please with the common folk with little control by the king. It was a step back in human rights and the fact people think it was a good thing only reflects on the propaganda surrounding it. The barons were the beneficiaries. The common folk were even worse off

[@richardsuggs8108]

@ I disagree. While you are correct that the Magna Carter didn’t grant rights to the common man. They generally population had few rights before the document was written. What the Magna Carta did was to restrict the absolute power of the crown. That was its purpose.

[@DarthTagnan69]

Every time I hear about Henry II, I think of the movie "The Lion In Winter," starring Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn. This movie is beautiful and features an All-Star cast.

[@Aggie1295]

I think a very young Timothy Dalton (future James Bond) played John. I think Anthony Hopkins was also in the film, but I can't remeber if he played Richard or another son. Peter O'Tool also played Henry II oposite Richard Burton in Beckett.

[@westoeden]

Watch Becket, then watch The Lion in Winter. Peter O'Toole played Henry in both movies.

[@TheSaltydog07]

Agree. But it's Hollywood history.

[@johnharvey2921]

Tim Dalton played Phillip of France. John Terry played John. The entire cast was brilliant. It may not have been historically accurate but it was really entertaining. Best quote “Every family has its little ups and downs”

[@TheSaltydog07]

@@Aggie1295 Peter O'Toole (Henry II), Anthony Hopkins (Richard), Nigel Terry (John), Timothy Dalton (Phillip II of France).

[@williamt.little1972]

Nice piece - but Eleanor of Acquitane deserves better than to be dismissively characterized as merely "infamous." She was an amazing person and a towering figure of her time. Do better by her...

[@seltonk5136]

He doesn't know what it means...he calls magna carta infamous 😂

[@Tugela60]

Lol....she WAS infamous! Her behavior was considered very unbecoming, and her interference in the running of and undermining the state was completely unacceptable. A lot of the strife and discontent of the time was due to her efforts. The ONLY reason she did not suffer a traitors death was because she was the queen consort.

[@Fairred6507]

Eleanor was an amazing woman right up until she died at 82. Get a book. Read about her. Dutchess in her own right, married to 2 kings, mother of 3 kings, negotiated the release of King Richard, then escaped recapture, escaped Henry II, it goes on and on. Just read the book.

[@Tugela60]

@Fairred6507 Sure. Propaganda written by her admirers. In reality she was a scheming entitled vain golddigger who instigated and particpated in treason. Got the boot by one king when he got sick of her nonsense, and immediately hooked up with another soon to be king. For Henry's trouble, she egged his sons on to rebel and try to overthrow him. Her machinations could very easily have cost England it's continental territory and almost certainly sowed the seeds for the later losses under Richard and John. She was locked up for a reason. She was a terrible woman. She was responsible for an enormous amount of strife in the kingdom, along with countless needless deaths and suffering for the common people during these rebellions and subsequent wars with France. Instead of governing the country as he should, Henry spent a good deal of his reign sorting out the mess that resulted from her BS, a mess that his sons inherited. Something they did not inherit was Henry's competence as a ruler, no doubt due to the chaotic lessons they learned from their mothers influence. All in the name of her vanity and pride.

[@abrarahmed1888]

She was one of the famous “she wolves” of the period

[@oldschool1993]

You left out the fate of Geoffrey, who was very close to Philip of France and died in Paris and was buried in Notre Dame Cathedral. Geoffrey was the father of Arthur, John's rival for the throne and who was most likely murdered by John.

[@dickpiper5339]

Geoffrey also became French King Philips lover and died jousting. Richard was killed by an arrow shot by a teenager while the king layer siege on one of his barons castles for ownership of a golden Roman statue found there. The boy was skinned alive.

[@johnbarry22]

The Irish were hardly Rebels in their own country

[@DavidBrown-cp2vm]

Own country ? They'd lost it.

[@13thcentury]

Did they rule it? No. Rebels.

[@dwharbin]

It was weirdly enough in a science fiction novel that I learned that John was so horrible and hated that there has never been another monarch named John in England ever since...

[@irenejohnston6802]

John didn't 'sign' it he attested his seal to it.

[@onagaali2024]

Richard and John were the last of Henry II's sons. I never heard anything else mentioned about Richard and John's brother Geoffrey? Geoffrey also died 3 years before their father in 1186. Prince Arthur was their brother Geoffrey's son as was John's niece,Eleonor.

[@Thewolverine0865]

Thanks for the info.

[@juliadove1006]

To say that King John was the most hated king of England is rather naive . That title must surly go to William the first, better known as William the Conqueror. One must remember who writes history! Anyone who opposed William was without hesitation killed as was probably all his family. This is the man responsible for “ The Doomsday Book” as well as “ The Harrowing of The North” which was every bit as ghastly as it sounds and unlike the undeniably nasty things that John got up to the effect were predominantly felt by the poor, and non aristocrats. There was a long running resistance against William, that lasted for decades. He won in the end and the rest is, as they say, history. Literally!! As it was the French supporting monks who wrote about him, and the very definition of History is what is written.

[@fgcbrooklyn]

There is no history without dates, just tales.

[@kurtwillig4230]

Lion In Winter shows just how dysfunctional this family was.

[@jarvisfamily3837]

So you're saying it *wasn't* a guide to child-rearing? Well, darn..!

[@jamellfoster6029]

*John was the 5th son- 4th surviving son. But without King John, we get no Henry III, & thus no Edward I "Longshanks" nor any of the other Plantagenet monarchs.

[@kennethquinnies6023]

Maybe that would have been better.

[@feiryfella]

@@kennethquinnies6023 I know right! Scotland might still be independent!

[@kashfiaislam9995]

And certainly no King Charles III 👑💍🇬🇧

[@3John-Bishop]

They say every American president is related to king John

[@kashfiaislam9995]

@@3John-Bishop Even Martin Van Buren is directly descended from King William I the Conqueror 🎭🩰🎨

[@jenniferholden9397]

What happened to accuracy when recounting historical facts?

[@thisbushnell2012]

His story. Depends on who's telling the story.

[@kaoskronostyche9939]

Click-bait supersedes all morality and ethic, money supersedes all integrity and scruples.

[@13thcentury]

That's why I have no scruples about plugging my own channel here 😅 If you want a 12 part series on John? I'm the man.

[@13thcentury]

​@@thisbushnell2012That is not what history means.

[@roberttelarket4934]

Magna Carta was the most important document not only in England's history but the world!!!!! That’s the one good thing that came because of him even though John discarded and flouted it!

[@2serveand2protect]

Well, probably there is a reason why the "Plantagenets" were called the "Spawn Of The Devil".

[@schroedingersdog7965]

Presumably, England will never have a "King John II".

[@GregConquest]

But America has a near replica: Donald Trump.

[@drjohnswilkins]

I'm still available.

[@mtheinvincible4156]

🤣

[@megaduck7965]

@@GregConquest that comment aged like milk 😂

[@cap3001]

@@megaduck7965 in only 25 minutes??

[@Markham12thcentury]

John's ancestral home was Anjou, not Normandy. The reason for so many supposed 'failures' of John, owed more to the lack of support by his leading barons. The kingdom was bankrupted by Richard's ransom, necessitating higher taxes. That's what John inherited. He was murdered by his army of foreign mercenaries. His valuables were divided up and he was buried at the cathedral of Saint Wulfstan. He'd become a couch-surfer in his own realm and could be replaced by a 9 year old who'd be easy to manipulate and control.

[@Shea333-n3k]

King John was the dog that caught the car.

[@Shea333-n3k]

And by the way, regarding the Magna Carta. I would hardly call it infamous. Also saying the Magna Carta didn’t amount to much is way understating it’s importance. It might have been ripped up, but it was a foundational document regarding the rights of the Freeman of England, which in turn gave foundational principles regarding our own Declaration of Independence and constitution here in the United States.

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@Shea333-n3k He doesn't know what "infamous" means. Seems to conflate it with "famous".

[@erepsekahs]

It sounds as if King John was a sociopath.

[@richardbrook4545]

It's a moderate improvement on his big brother Richard who was a psychopath. Inheriting a kingdom where your predecessor has bankrupted the nation must be enough to tip anyone over the edge (who says history doesn't repeat itself)

[@Deatheater4444]

There's about 1% accuracy to any of this.

[@Tugela60]

We don't know that he was "cruel and twisted". His history was written by his enemies, they were not exactly unbiased observers.

[@andy-the-gardener]

king john needs a hilary mantel to do a reverse hatchet job on him. theres always two sides to every story. probably. and we could certainly do with some non tudor history

[@linshanhsiang]

There was the time he decided to hang a bunch of Welsh boys who he held as hostages. Pretty cruel, I'd say. Then there's the reputation he had for helping himself to the wives of barons when he stayed at their castles.

[@Tugela60]

@linshanhsiang Again, just stories made up by nobles who did not like paying taxes. It was in their interest to vilify him and stir up popular outrage. The whole magna carta thing basically was all about paying taxes and nobles not wanting to. It had nothing to do with his personal behaviour.

[@goldbug7127]

Magna Carta has been smeared in a couple of places. What's with that? On the face of it, the Barons and King John signed a deal. John broke the deal. The Barons declared war and got rid of him. Sounds like it worked.

[@JO-kp6lk]

Well, as Katherine Hepburn says in The Lion In Winter, " What family doesn't have its ups and downs ? "

[@sharcon3891]

King John was not a good man...he had his little ways. And sometimes no-one spoke to him for days and days and days.

[@dianesleeman5940]

The Christmas cards upon his shelf/ were never from his near and dear/ but only from himself" 😊

[@barbarabauling7513]

King John was not a good man, And no good friends had he. He stayed in every afternoon , but no-one came to tea. And round about December, the cards upon his shelf, which wished him lots of Christmas cheer, and fortune in the coming year, Were never from his near and dear, But only from himself. (A.A.Milne) :)

[@dhm7815]

Yes. King John was not a good man. He had his little ways. And some times no one spoke to him for days and days and days. John had a number of "little ways" that he shared with Caligula. Milne is amusing on two levels. On one level that is a poem for children. For parents who might be asked by a son or daughter about John what can the parent say about England's Caligula? Milne has a hilarious answer.

[@TgWc29]

So many inaccuracies in this

[@oriraykai3610]

Henry II had a mural on his bedroom wall showing crows pecking the eyes out of a dead eagle. The eagle represented him and the crows were his sons.

[@kennethmaney914]

Wrong, John caught dysentry while eating at swine....abbey. there being poisoned by a famous monk and chef, with monkshood, poison. His treasure which was lost in the wash,was later discover by some Welsh bowmen, who stripped the gold from the swards etc, and hid it, went on to oblivion in Wales, and never came back for the hoard the all the clever know alks say is Saxon treasure, Yes it is ,but its part of King Johns crown jewels, alot of which was saxon... Check it out.

[@Bobrogers99]

I recall reading that John died after eating "a surfeit of eels", apparently his favorite food. And yes, his treasure was lost as he retreated through The Wash, and the bulk of it was never found.

[@carlivansoelen1638]

...a lot...

[@carlivansoelen1638]

​@@Bobrogers99 That was Henry 1 - and it was 'a surfeit of lampreys"

[@jebfallen]

16:10 And ever since all toilets are to forever be known as 'JOHN'S'

[@WisdomKeeper11]

Did he live at Rochester castle? ❤

[@Shea333-n3k]

These people sound more dysfunctional than the Borgia’s.

[@RasheedGazzi]

Makes you glad to be an average Joe.

[@warpedweft9004]

Most leaders of tribes and nations always have been and still are. You only get to such postions by trampling over everyone else.

[@kennethquinnies6023]

Sadly from what I have read, most of the entire english noble class wasnt worth the time of day.

[@vumba1331]

Some things never change.

[@irenejohnston6802]

They weren't English/ASaxon. All Norman French. Their wives weren't English. Until Edward IV c1464 when he married widow of Earl Grey, Catherine Woodville.

[@vumba1331]

@@irenejohnston6802 Well that would explain a lot......

[@bobbarclay316]

The 'Kings" were just the most effective robber barons. There is almost no evil of which most of them were guilty.

[@vumba1331]

@@bobbarclay316 That's true, however, to be fair the same can be said of the robber barons and the clergy. Funny how they were really down on the highwaymen for doing the same thing, too much competition?

[@Lkydog8165]

I really enjoy listening to this narrator more so than the rest

[@linshanhsiang]

The painting labeled Richard I shows him as dark haired. He was famously blond and 6'4".

[@paulgray9084]

Now we have Keir Starmer.

[@MrTonyHeath]

I live a dozen km from where Richard was killed and the local tourist scheme still makes great play of his presence in the area. Here we pronounce it ;Accitaine'. John does not get a mention.

[@dougerrohmer]

Obviously, "infamous" does not mean what you think it does.

[@ronaldalanperry4875]

Well, I guess a document like Magna Carta is infamous if you belong to a club of power-crazed tyrants.

[@QuartuvLarry]

Can’t you speak English? “Infamous“ means that you are MORE than famous!

[@dougerrohmer]

@@QuartuvLarry Yes, I can speak English. Al Capone was infamous. It's a bad thing to be infamous. Keanu Reeves is famous. It is not a bad thing to be famous. Now read the dictionary definition below. in·fa·mous /ˈinfəməs/ adjective well known for some bad quality or deed. "an infamous war criminal"

[@QuartuvLarry]

@@dougerrohmer LOL! I know. I was joking, from this movie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjYl3lun9qrY6ssi=qvClcxU3hLjDGfaF

[@dougerrohmer]

@@QuartuvLarry I guess the movie show how important it is to know what infamous means 😁

[@MarcPagan]

Big picture - Thanks for an entertaining and top notch video. That said - the script writer here seems to like the word "infamous", and misuses it a tad. Not nearly as much as an excellent science KZbinr I watch overuses "essentially".

[@13thcentury]

Or "disturbing'

[@Han-rw9ev]

I originally assumed that John was England's worst king. Until I started learning more about the others.

[@philip2010]

John was portrayed in the newest Robin hood movie but there was alot left out of the story

[@carlivansoelen1638]

...a lot...

[@Thaihandmade-wd9mh]

My new language pet peeve is people not understanding the difference between "infamous" and "famous".

[@jdove6883]

The Magna Carta was a GREAT thing for free people. The beginning which eventually lead to the United States notion of freedom. We don't need kings and queens whose mercy we were at whether they were just or tyrants.

[@Thewolverine0865]

Did I miss something? What happened to Geoffrey? Love the dry humor BTW.

[@deborahbarrett2385]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_(archbishop_of_York) maybe close enough for you? it being wikipedia and all

[@earthchild75]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_II,_Duke_of_Brittany

[@13thcentury]

​@@deborahbarrett2385wrong geoffery. He's referring to the legitimate son, Geoffery-'Duke of Brittany.

[@davewolfy2906]

Why is Magna Carta infamous. You should remove this ridiculous nonsense video.

[@BrianEthridge-wk6hz]

I really am surprised nobody's made a movie of this at least not that I know of. They did it right it sounds like it would be pretty good.

[@davepowell7168]

There are worse deaths than explosive diahorrea. John started the celebrity 27 club

[@kashfiaislam9995]

No, Edmund Tudor started the celebrity 27 club 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@2serveand2protect]

Wow! this is well done! Thank You! PS. By the way! ONE QUESTION if I may ... at around the 13th minute you mentioned some "Hugh the IXth of Lusignan"! ...is this the very same "de Lusignan" family that was so influential under the reign of Henry the IIIrd of England (John's son if I recall correctly)??

[@guillermoemiliomariaibanez339]

He was "the King who had no land" and that reminds me of " no country to old men"

[@fintan3563]

I guess “The Lion in Winter,” (one of my favorites) got John right.

[@albertangeloro5832]

Why no mention of the important roles played by Maid Marian, Errol Flynn & Friar Tuck?

[@paulrodgers252]

So John is the bad one when his own Brother and Mother went to War against His Father: the King?

[@MarieJackson-sp3be]

A friend of mine researched a genealogical chart for me that went far back in time. She found I was descended from one of King John's illegitimate daughters who he had acknowledged because he gave her a title. She thought I would be pleased. I am happily American, and despite the Magna Carta, I was disgusted. Inbred, cruel person. I refuse to acknowledge. My father flew paratroopers over to St. Mere Eglise on D-Day, 1, 2 and 3. That is what I am proud of. hopefully, she made an error.

[@susandevitte2137]

I am a direct descendant of John. That's a family tree the good and bad. My dad was a paratrooper in WW2 maybe your dad flew him over Normandy.

[@DonMeaker]

Legitimate king, not really quite a tyrant. John had one surpassing vice which history turned into a virtue: He begat children. His time of death was just in time to deny Louis I of England his reign. Instead of continuing the conquest of England, Louis left after being paid off to agree that he had never been king. If only Richard III had the same ability to pay off Henry VII.

[@dennisfreeling8439]

Thanx very enlightening

[@raphaelrau1728]

Dysentery was a very common way of dying back in the middle ages.

[@caramelcandy5147]

Im curious, was Geoffrey ever considered for the kingship?

[@13thcentury]

No. Because once young henry died, Richard. Became heir. Plus, the french had to much influence over geoffery.

[@edwardwong654]

Yeah but he signed the Magna Carta, one of the most important documents. :-)

[@Shineon83]

….Not even a mention of WILLIAM MARSHALL-the “greatest knight” in history?….Marshall was critical to John’s keeping power

[@paulfitzgerald7513]

Can you do one on the most hated Prime Minister next?

[@raphaelrau1728]

John’s son Henry was a big builder and his son Edward the first was a much bigger sob than his grandfather John!

[@melissavancleave8686]

Best narrator.

[@mattmadden3013]

In the States, we weren't taught too much English history. The Magna Carta, and Henry the 8ths part in the Reformation was about it. Thanks, this was a good start.

[@troygaspard6732]

So the film The Lion In the Winter, was not far off. A family with too much land and power.

[@JohnnyAngel8]

So what happened to the fourth brother, Geoffrey?

[@13thcentury]

Most likely died in a joust. In Paris. He was allied with the French

[@ISREALHASGOD]

These history doc's are in need of more study time..

[@damagingthebrand7387]

Another incompetent video. John was maybe one of the best King's of England. He was hated by some of the nobility, precisely because he did his job and followed the laws regarding non-nobles. The nobility were not used to having to follow the law and hated him for that reason. Do some actual research.

[@johnchapman6158]

Totally agree, people need to know the facts and do their own reserach

[@tesilab994]

A very significant point in John’s favor was that he took the trouble to travel the country to adjudicate cases. He gave the people better access to justice.

[@petehealy9819]

"Step foot"...I learned the phrase as "*set* foot", but maybe it's different in the UK? Or is this just another increasingly common malapropism like "for all intensive purposes" that grammarians brush off as "just fine"?

[@kathrynstewart-mcdonald]

Maritme Law in the USA is based on this document, I have been told the contents endure through this day

[@vdimasteremeritus]

Magna Carta. Baron’s wars. That’s pretty much it.

[@joeyortiz2655]

Before King John and After Poe Dameron, Moon Knight and Other Great Roles.. What a Great Actor..

[@patmancrowley8509]

The stories that came from the families of "royalty" and their castles are the reason I don't find castles as fascinating or great photographic meat. Nothing but conniving, torture, murder and unholy intrigue is what castle's are made of/for.

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

We had a lot of bad monarchs, starting with William, and including Edward 1, Richard, Henry Vlll, Elizabeth 1, Mary,

[@lucindamcguinn691]

I have to disagree that Henry VIII was a bad monarch. He accomplished some deeply important changes for England, not the least of which was taking back vast tracts of land, riches, and power in his own kingdom from the control of a foreign pope. He was probably the most powerful king England has ever had. And what's with calling Elizabeth 1 a bad monarch? Geez!

[@christopherellis2663]

Richard was crowned 👑 King of England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and Cyprus 🇨🇾

[@davefrench3608]

Both my wife and I are his direct descendants Thankfully we show none of his characteristics

[@tttm99]

Edit: You've clearly put a lot of research into this but there were parts I feel could definitely be improved for a new edition. Hmmm. I think lots of people lost the thread on why you called the Magna Carta infamous -- which it surely was among rulers of the time and long thereafter; I took it in that context but that could have been clearer. I was however waiting to hear about the crown jewels lost in the wash. But nothing. In your defence I was watching late and might have fell asleep.😂 I'll have to rewatch, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there... Edit: yes to be fair to critics, at a relisten it really does sound like "infamous" is your personal commentary on the Magna Carta (I) and not that of rulers in context. In fact, aside from your conviction in delivery which makes it sound like a terrible thing (for a ruler of the time or otherwise) it really does come off like you've used infamous by mistake. Your opinion is neither here nor there to me in a political sense but it muddies the waters when attempting to simply communicate history as an historian. "Famous" as well known is already frequently neutral enough in use so as not to be mistake as "celebrated". You could have simply said John famously capitulated to the Magna Carta, and that would have probably done? Anyway it could have been clearer and... No, you seem not to mention he lost the crown jewels. I would definitely include that, even if as a footnote.

[@13thcentury]

My only criticism is vital details absent in certain points. In a vid proving how bad John was, it missed out his starvation of enemies. His feud with Longchamp. Isabella of angouleme was never a child - because for the era, she was a woman. He misses out the interdict, and excommunication that wracked the country for 5 years.

[@stevenrowlandson9650]

Anyone notice that there was only one King John so far?

[@leosmith848]

Frighteningly reminiscent of Two Tier Starmer

[@willhovell9019]

It wasn't as awful as his brother Richard he didn't have to be ransomed for twice the annual English tax take. His mucking about led to Magna Carta and the clear limitation of Royal power, until the absolute Scottish Stuarts came along and plunged the country into civil war with parliament and the deaths of 10% of the people. Charles first was by far the worst King and deserved to lose his head due to stubborn tyranny. Quite funny to have a Scottish narrator on English and Welsh history.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😊

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

He got a lot of bad advice from Rottingham.

[@postiepaul]

What a joy! I think John was one of the greatest kings we ever had. Everyone loves Henry VIII, certainly the most megalomaniacal sovereign we ever had. Keep up the good work.😉 (First king to speak English at court).

[@admiralbenbow5083]

My family have some dodgy ancestors and x24 Grandpa John is one of them, but it gets worse. Coming in at x21 is Edward II !

[@warpedweft9004]

Me too. Thetes a few ancestors I'd like to disown!

[@fs.pureblood]

Gruesome death. Lets just say I wouldn't want to be within a mile of Newark castle while he was there dying and I certainly wouldn't want to have been one of his servants.

[@petehealy9819]

Granted, I'm an ignorant Yank (maybe that's redundant), but I heard next to nothing about what made King John so hated from the standpoint of commoners. Even one example of a cruel or ruinous policy would have been helpful and interesting.

[@michaelmiller641]

Ask Starmer!

[@gwynwilliams4222]

He was the grandfather to llewelyn ap Griffith princep of Wales who should have been the king of England and Wales not Edward 1 long shanks that's why Edward went after Wales

[@maryfrump7937]

He is Grandpa to me😢

[@adarmus4768]

Thankfully we have giant big brains in the comments to jump in and criticise the content creator for his errors. It isn’t enough to point out the errors in his free content like a civilised person though, slurs such as calling him “dumb” must be used to drive the point home. People are the worst.

[@robertotamesis1783]

King George the 3rd was the last absolute King of England, it began the rise of Parliament at the start of king John misbehaving .

[@LonersGuide]

Why is the thumbnail a picture of a Middle-Eastern guy?

[@boondocks8002]

That's Oscar Isaac who played king John in the 2007 Robin movie. He has also played in many movies...star wars, Bourne identity, dune, and many others

[@aerofart]

Jew

[@LonersGuide]

@@boondocks8002 BBC--it figures.

[@irenejohnston6802]

​He played John so well made each scene his own. His own ring given in thanks to Robin then taken back for unpaid taxes! His seal ring taken from The Marshal, William Earl of Pembroke given to his loyal hatchet man. William survived him aged about 70. England's greatest champion aside from Alfred the Great. pov@@boondocks8002

[@snapdraygon]

Prince Geoffrey? What happened to him?

[@PETER-c4n]

Bad people for England. Top two : 1. King John. 2. Keir Starmer - though a lawyer, he has forgotten/ignored what Magna Carta was all about in relation to English people!

[@kubhlaikhan2015]

He did his best, give the guy a break.

[@robertshotzberger]

Hard to tell the difference from John and Henry Vlll

[@davidsutherland4280]

One of my most hated words because of its misuse…

[@donaldcurtis9229]

It was a great movie

[@tarahill2193]

Thankyou ✨️

[@Donna-cc1kt]

Oh! Sounds like Govenor Newsom of CA.

[@ittybittykittymama7582]

I am a direct descendant of King John, to my shame and dismay.

[@ShinSeikiEvan]

Same. I think it's funny that my ancestor was a Disney villain.

[@tracydishongh-gregg3953]

Don’t be ashamed! It was a great Family! You are a part of a family that changed England!

[@peterallman8474]

You "direct descendant" crowd really make me laugh. Though I should be saddened by your gullibility and neediness.

[@johns4506]

Don’t believe you.

[@andnowi]

I'm not a direct descendant but I've had dysentery.

[@kimgroh4987]

Eleanor looked alot like Kathrine Hepburn