King of Ergos on a Budget? - Zaopin Z2 Review

[@MrMaxim]

The best review, going deeper on the quirks of the other mice without bullshitting, thanks!

[@cebbax]

Haha I try! Thank you for the kind words

[@Log_Pile]

Great review Cebbax

[@cebbax]

Omg thank you man. Big fan of yours 🫡

[@Log_Pile]

@cebbax Likewise man, your videos are consistently really good 👍

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

How is this for 19.5x9.5 hands, I use a "relaxed pincer claw" grip or very relaxed claw where the knuckles and palm doesn't touch and the tip of the fingers is almost at the end of the mouse. I realized that I probably "need" a mouse with a higher back hump as my deathadder v2 is starting to feel uncomfortable as I cannot palm it nor full claw it.

[@QuintinHowell]

I got the VXE R1 PRO MAX, amazing quality and performance, especially for the price. But for my 21x11 hands its too small, I'm used to palm griping G502. Do you think something like the Ajazz AJ139Pro 4K would be a big improvement over the VXE R1 shape/size?

[@cebbax]

The AJ139 does feel wider by a little bit so it could work but the coating and skates are pretty bad. I don't think it'll be a huge improvement and worth the money tbh. Is the R1 too small because of the width? If so, you could try stacking some grip tapes on the sides and see if that'll help

[@QuintinHowell]

@@cebbax thanks, I guess ATK X1/Viper V3 Pro might work otherwise I'll have to main G502 or find another large ergo.

[@DOMadorable]

a bit late but Ajazz AJ139Pro build quality is not good as VXE R1 pro/pro max.

[@dan.1427]

very well-made video! would you happen to know any chinese clones that would suit my hand size/grip (17.4 x 9.8 CM, relaxed claw grip). this GPX is a bit too wide for me haha

[@cebbax]

Thanks! Only ones I can think of are the r1 pro and m600 ultra but they're smaller in terms of height while the width is only slightly narrower. The mchose ax5 is also okay but not as good as the other two imo.

[@1700tt]

Is it a big mouse?

[@cebbax]

Slightly smaller than the gpx so more of a medium sized mouse

[@phuclam978]

My hand is 19 x 10.5 cm. I always use claw and relax claw grip. Can you suggest me the mouse that can fit my hand 🥲

[@cebbax]

R1 pro and Helios II Pro S are really solid choices for claw. You could also wait for the op1w 4k that should be coming out soon

[@phuclam978]

@@cebbax tks u

[@phuclam978]

@@cebbax what do you think about the logitech gpx or zaopin z2 pro 4k 🐸

[@cebbax]

@@phuclam978 GPX is a safe choice if you don't want to risk trying other shapes. Z2 pro is an ergo which I personally wouldn't choose above the Helios but its basically an improved steelseries prime clone.

[@CLingus]

how wide is the grip compared to the gpx? i have smaller hands and the gpx is slightly too wide.

[@cebbax]

I reckon this mouse would also be too wide because the z2 is only narrower towards the front but has a similar width at the back

[@CLingus]

thx..hope the mini version will be narrower@@cebbax

[@bruno100carro]

this one or R1 pro max ? i have a g403, fingertip

[@cebbax]

r1 for fingertip 100%

[@bruno100carro]

​@@cebbax how long does the z2's battery lasts ? i know that the r1 pro max lasts for about 150h

[@cebbax]

@@bruno100carro You can get at least 100h with the z2 but those numbers are for 1k only

[@sen_rookieqt]

Does anyone have problem with bluetooth mode ???

[@cebbax]

what problems are you having? if its setting up, you need to turn on bluetooth and hold the left, right and middle mouse down for 3 seconds to get into pairing mode.

[@sen_rookieqt]

@@cebbax omg it worked, thank you so much

[@michael21-ou2yt]

this worth getting if i have a np01s?

[@cebbax]

If you have no problems with the np01s then I'd just stick with it