I'm surprised you didn't mention that the buttons can be rebound as keyboard keys. CZM1-4 can be used to output common modifiers like crtl, shift, alt, F1-12 etc. Unless flydigi removed that from their software
@jubuttib2 ай бұрын
You can see the M1-4 keys mapped to mouse and some keyboard keys when he first brings up the software. Should still be there.
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'm not sure why I didn't specifically mention that. I think my (bad) assumption may have been thinking it was common knowledge at this point. But yes, literally all the buttons (except Home and Function) can be remapped to anything else. Gamepad buttons.. keyboard keys.. mouse clicks.. macros.. set as turbos.. etc.
@jubuttib2 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas That is AWESOME. I've been looking for a gamepad that gives me ACTUAL extra buttons and not just remaps of Xinput ones for a while now. And mostly to CPG the Apache... =)
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Yup! Just keep in mind, the Flydigi software MUST be running to use the non-gamepad remaps like keyboard and mouse remaps
@jubuttib2 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas That's fine, I can live with that. I wish that it was possible to turn more of these devices to DirectInput mode instead of Xinput, and just let the buttons be generic controller buttons.
@DiabeticDebuff2 ай бұрын
I am utterly amazed by your presentation of information and attention to detail. Very professional man. My Vader 4 Pro comes in tomorrow and this was the perfect recap that I could have possibly asked for. Thank you!
@katanamaru12 ай бұрын
The MS Paint breakdown was amazing at explaining! Thank you. Also thanks for showing the difference of square and circle circularity in game.
@xanthonjp2 ай бұрын
Great review. Most detailed I've seen so far. Music is too loud though and not sure if it's necessary.
@mooseroomАй бұрын
never thought i'd see such a detailed and properly broken down video of a controller. thank you for this mate
@y3eMAN2 ай бұрын
Just wanna say you sir are a genius. Smartest controller review, presentation, I've seen on this controller without wasting a single word describing the product. Subscribed!!!! Amazing. Now lets go add this controller to my cart. 😅
@ralfidude2 ай бұрын
Sweetie, wake up. Tuuvas finally did this video!!
@ghostgaming257712 ай бұрын
Once my Xbox controller finally needs a retire I will for sure be getting the Vader 4 pro as it is the same price and everything about it I love. Thanks Tuuvas for making this video and showing that there is more controllers out there, not just the big brands!
@aweigh10102 ай бұрын
just get a bunch of controllers
@HelloImCrimson2 ай бұрын
Get it now. It has better everythinf including battery life
@leoblack84972 ай бұрын
@@HelloImCrimson the only thing stopping me is knowing that I can't change battery and will have to change it once battery is used up
@aweigh10102 ай бұрын
@@leoblack8497 Battery will last longer than your regular Xbox controller lasts overall.
@n64slayer2 ай бұрын
I love reviews that don't beat around the bush and give the the raw data. tbh I haven't cared once about how the plastic of the controller feels or how the controller feels slightly different in my hands. Mad props to you 👏
@ofeklivnyАй бұрын
I really like the honest info and straighforward explanations, kudos! I will get this controller when its back to like 50$
@hitsukora2 ай бұрын
How does the Vader 4 Pro do against the Apex 4? Are there any benefits to the Apex 4 still? Only things I really care about are Joysticks, Buttons and DPad feeling/accuracy, the extra features I am not too concerned about.
@Phantoma32 ай бұрын
The music is too loud
@brentsmith-d8hАй бұрын
I could hardly hear my Baby Shark over the smooth Jazz! 😠
@s7r4912 күн бұрын
I was thinking it was too quiet
@UnsungPhoenix4 күн бұрын
Turn your volume down
@cookiemonster4967Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for reviewing this controller. I need this info.
@PaperRouteFranky2 ай бұрын
you've earned a subscription sir. Thank you for this. I've already owned the Vader 4 Pro for about 1 1/2 weeks and this was the most informative review yet!
@StevenWaltersLicon2 ай бұрын
Hello, on a scale of 1-10, may I have your score for the controller please
@PaperRouteFranky2 ай бұрын
@@StevenWaltersLicon 9/10 honestly the only thing i wish it was is a bit heavier. Amazing controller overall!!!
@MadeOfEarth12 ай бұрын
AC Black Flag! What year is this?
@shampo01572 ай бұрын
Love the time you put in this video just got a new subscriber keep up the great work pal.
@TheSkepticSkwerl20 күн бұрын
You actually divide the polling time in half and add that to the other options. Because you poll every 60 seconds. If the flag raised at 59s and you poll at 60. It was 1 second delay there. But on average it'll be 30. Where the 10hz polling rate would be 3s average. And so on.
@riman84932 ай бұрын
Awesome review! Thank you very much! Been thinking of upgrading from my old, wired xbox 360 controller for a while. This looks like it will fit the bill! Cheers!
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
You will definitely be happy! Just keep in mind, this controller only works on PC/Android/iOS/Nintendo Switch.
@riman84932 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas I only play on PC, so should be golden.
@DisposeHasNoDad2 ай бұрын
Once I heard Tension adjusting dials I was sold 😂
@donnygunawan1232 ай бұрын
i hope they updated the software for the direwolf 2 too.. i need that circle / square menu and also auto calibration mode
@jubuttib2 ай бұрын
I take slight issue with the polling rate explanation, mainly because the devices get polled at a (more or less) constant rate, and the actual delay depends on when exactly the state change happens in relation to the polling. So if you had a 1 Hz polling rate, and you pressed the button right after the device had been already polled, you'd have to wait for a second before the next poll would register the press. If you pressed the button 999 ms after a poll, the next poll would happen 1 ms later and the press would be registered almost instantly. Basically you could have almost anything between 1 second and 1 millisecond as the delay caused by the polling rate. Sometimes I wish we could still do interrupt based input devices more easily... =)
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Lol I'll be honest, I did consider adding a "timing" portion to this explanation, but it would've added unnecessary bloat to an already confusing topic. I made the regretful decision to keep things simple.
@jubuttib2 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Fair, but I still take issue! =) I tend to think about the polling rate as annoying kids in the backseat going "Are you pressing it yet?" over and over, and the faster the polling rate the more annoying the kids... =)
@vovazagach1781Ай бұрын
So what setting I should use for comfort gaming?
@TuuvasАй бұрын
Leave it on the highest setting. If you experience any weirdness like choppy movement, lower it.
@vovazagach1781Ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Thanks 👍
@DamianDejmi2 ай бұрын
Which controller should I buy. I can order flydigi only from China in my country. I have 100$ for it but I want the controller to last atleast 2 years. Im very gentle with my controller so they only can broke when poor quality. Im thinking about Apex 4 Vader 3/4 pro guilkit kk3 max or gamesir kaleid. Please help me beacuse my xbox series broke after 1,5 year. Im playing racing games and soulslike. Im thinking of playing fps on controller but its not main thing. Im playing only on Pc I just want this controller to have good quality and last long.
@jardygiovanАй бұрын
@@DamianDejmi I don't have my controller yet, but I'm researching a lot for the past month, and the conclusion I got is that Vader 4 Pro is the best option for comfort and longevity for many factors, and I would disclassify any controller with removable back buttons or swappable directional sets. If it is removable, is easily breakable based on a lot of user reviews. Finding negative reviews of Vader 4 has been a challenge compared to any other controller I know of.
@DamianDejmiАй бұрын
@@jardygiovan I have it for 2 weeks So good controller beating bosses in soulslike never benn such as good as now
@Basqui.2 ай бұрын
I also use gyro + right analog stick for some of my games, but with a PS4 Controller. What I do so that the gyro does not interfere with the aiming sensitivity when using the analog stick is to set that gyro automatically gets disabled when the analog stick is used. I use steam controller settings to set that up, though, so I don't know if that's possible with you.
@Amon-gh1ex2 ай бұрын
hey Tuuvas, imo, if you want to check tension of the joystick, you can use a piece of paper
@astreakaito56252 ай бұрын
Excellent. I love how you use a flight sim to test the joystick, great idea! Thank you. About the Gyro issue you mention, this looks normal to me because you likely set the gyro output to... a right stick output. Obvious this is going to add up to the existing physicial right stick output. The reason people like Gyro aiming is that with an app like DS4W you can output the gyro to a mouse instead. This way the output of both at the same time shouldn't conflict. I'm actually still on the fence about this controller because nobody testing it atm seems to know how to setup gyro for videogames even though it should be straight forward: just use the Flydigi app to output the gyro to mouse movement.. Which I don't even know if they offer this option, dunno if they support emulating mouse to right stick (useful for some games), I don't know if this controller is otherwise supported in DS4W app, I don't know how Rewasd or Steam Input would recognize it and if 3axis Gyro would be recognized on both, etc etc. I'm only familiar with Gyro aiming on a Dualsense and it's perfect with DS4W but obviously Dualsenses have a stick drift issue so I'm looking to replace it.
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
See, I thought that as well regarding the gyro issue just adding onto the right stick since I was moving it too. But as you can see at 17:00, I made sure to keep the controller planted on the table. This allowed me to activate the gyro without actually moving it, and despite that I still saw the jump in the input.
@146ix2 ай бұрын
Would you say the Vader 4 is a good roller for competive CoD/Apex? My biggest gripe with HE stick rollers is the non-linear response curve most have, which makes them not usable for me as competitive fps's is what I mostly play. I just want a roller with 2 back buttons, 1000hz polling, and that it feels like a sony roller with alps sticks
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
According to Ana and Johnny Punch (well regarded controller testers), the linearity is near perfect on the Vader 4 Pro. I highly recommend looking up Ana's review of the V4Pro if you want specific tech specs
@carlitos05Ай бұрын
Upvoted for MS paint explanation
@brentsmith-d8hАй бұрын
You know a website is up and coming when they pay the MSPaint license fee.
@hantuan1072 ай бұрын
just got mine brand new vader 4 pro for $70 discounted and it's been the most satisfying upgrade in PC gaming i've had in years! so long sticky xbox one controller, you belong in the trashbin now
@Zefyron6672 ай бұрын
Great review, I do have a question though; how noisy are the face buttons when they click? Compared to, say, a standard xbox series controller?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
The sound is about as loud as the dpad on an Xbox Series controller. It's not the same type of sound, but loudness is about the same. Same goes for the Vader 4 Pro dpad.
@jersonlucero46112 ай бұрын
great review. i was wondering what is the battery life with full rumble and rgb on
@michaelgleason4791Ай бұрын
Any idea when these will be back in stock?
@shfd38322 ай бұрын
Thanks for explanation❤❤
@theleftfootedsultan2 ай бұрын
I saw some early concerns about the tension dials, either fear of moving them by mistake or just general criticism that there’s seemingly no way to lock them in place. I assume you didn’t have any issues, because it didn’t come up?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Correct. I've had zero issue with accidentally bumping them out of my desired tension zone, and they have enough friction that they wouldn't just spin out of place while aggressively shaking the controller. No issues there for mine.
@HelloImCrimson2 ай бұрын
Its literally impossible to bump them or touch them accidentaly
@vulcan4d4 күн бұрын
So hard to give up the Xbox chat pad.....
@DokSpec2 ай бұрын
Awesome Video.. i love my vader 4 pro. I Hope you get the machenike g6 pro starlight too compare
@brentgamboa94262 ай бұрын
are the rear buttons, aka back buttons mechanical??? and how does the dpad feel? for fighting games exactly
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
The C, Z, M1, M2, M3, and M4 buttons are technically mechanical, but definitely not as clicky as the ABXY and Dpad. As for the d-pad for fighting games, my thoughts on that are at 17:42. In summary: fantastic.
@brentgamboa94262 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Well that's a fucking good video! thank you for the response! and probably they've used the old mechanical buttons on those "extra" buttons so I'm fine with that as long as the dpas and primary buttons feel good
@sharkinu3032Ай бұрын
Hey Tuuvas I just bought this order and I am planning some dcs on it. Do you mind sharing some of the important settinf adjustments relative to the game ?
@TuuvasАй бұрын
All the settings adjustments I would recommend are in the tutorial I linked at the end of the video. Everything after that is per-user preference. So things like axis tune.. graphics settings.. Force Trim behavior.. etc. Just play with DCS and browse through the different options to see what all you can adjust to your tastes.
@Linux8889921 күн бұрын
should i buy EasySMX X10 or xbox controller for single player gaming on pc?
@146ix2 ай бұрын
do you know how to completely reset the flydigi vader 4 pro. after i calibrated it it felt worse n nothing im resetting makes it feel better
@Goshakovski2 ай бұрын
can you turn off the gyro?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Yes
@Eagle0152 ай бұрын
You should add the controller layouts for the fc2024 planes😊
@bakerman_xd2 ай бұрын
hey nice review
@shotarcherz16902 ай бұрын
Do you know if the apex 4 will get a circularity update instead of just rectangular mode?
@docholliday18112 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you.
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
No problem, Doc!
@imleozx280811 күн бұрын
Do I have to eject the dongle properly ? Or I can eject it straight away without any issue.
@Tuuvas11 күн бұрын
I never choose the eject option, but you should still take care not to remove it while saving a profile, performing a firmware update, etc.
@KaosDarkness2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the deep dive into the D-pad (sarcasm) it was the only thing that interested me
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
D-pad is solid. I thought I covered it enough with the overview showing its clickiness as well as its ability to keep up with my fighting game part of the review. If you want more detail, I recommend Gamer Heaven's review
@αεεμ-ω5σ2 ай бұрын
Flydigi controllers are durable?
@ryozaki962 ай бұрын
I don't like how the 5th and 6th buttons are awkwardly placed
@shfd38322 ай бұрын
Suggest a controller that imitates dual sense adaptive triggers and Haptic feedback
@xDShot9000Ай бұрын
Apex 4
@_JuicyJ22 күн бұрын
I can’t find this controller in stock. I really don’t trust ordering off Ali Express. Possible to get a knock off version.
@filipstojanovic8975Ай бұрын
Hello, will I be able to play COD via steam with the vader 4 pro? As in all buttons are available, usable and remapping supported? Or do I have to do it over battlenet.
@TuuvasАй бұрын
You can with Steam. Just make sure the Flydigi Space Station software is running and has the remaps you want
@filipstojanovic8975Ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Thx
@pondtheerachot4542 ай бұрын
In ur opinion, Xbox wireless controller and Vader 4 pro which one you think it’s better and recommend?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Want to play on Xbox? Xbox controller. Want to play on PC, Android, iOS, or Switch? Vader 4 Pro absolutely. Still want to play on Xbox anyways? Vader 4 Pro + costly adapter that might allow it to work
@pondtheerachot4542 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Okay, Thank you
@001wizeman2 ай бұрын
Kontrol freeks fit?
@joshua7672 ай бұрын
I wanted to ask whether you can use analog triggers and gyro at the same time, I've been looking for a controller and i heard switch controllers won't allow to do both, and my best option is a PS4 controller (spark n5)
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
So, the reason for that is because most controllers that have a "Nintendo Switch Controller" mode, like NS mode shown for this Vader 4 Pro, turns the analog triggers into digital on/off buttons. This is because the Nintendo Switch doesn't actually use analog triggers for any of its controllers. That said, you can absolutely use both analog triggers and a gyro at the same time with this Vader 4 Pro. Just don't use NS mode, and instead use dongle mode.
@joshua7672 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas thanks a lot for the help
@viniciosdsgn2 ай бұрын
When I remove the lock from the LT RT and leave it longer it doesn't work, only when I leave it short do you know why?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
I have two possible guesses: 1. You're not on Dongle mode and are instead using Nintendo Switch (NS) mode or 2. You need to calibrate your device. If #2, you calibrate by turning on the controller, pressing and holding Start+Select+DpadUp until the light flashes, fully rotating both sticks couple times, pressing each trigger fully a couple times, then press Start+Select+DpadUp to finish calibrating.
@viniciosdsgn2 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Estoy en la pc, hice la calibración antes
@D2firetech2 ай бұрын
Great video could you rev6the machenike g6 pro starflash? No one has
@김민호-c9i2 ай бұрын
does it connect by Bluetooth to the steam deck out of the box? cause I saw it doesn't with PC
@xDShot9000Ай бұрын
Dongle on Xinput, Bluetooth on Xinput, Switch Mode
@Msfasolin2 ай бұрын
Does it have adaptive trigger?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
The triggers at best only have a haptic feedback feature, but no definitely not force feedback like in the Apex 4 or DualSense
@Alt4i_2 ай бұрын
Phil Spencer soll die Firma schnell kaufen wenn er vernünftige Controller haben will für sein Call of Duty 😂
@Phoenix5uperАй бұрын
anyone was use on this controller can info 800mah how many hours can it last ?
@Bāz.Falcon2 ай бұрын
Where have you been mate???
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Twitch! Well, that and a ton of content prep work like templates.. libraries of music/clips.. script writing.. etc lol. Hopefully we'll see the fruits of all that prep work soon enough!
@Bāz.Falcon2 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Nice to see you back!!! and cant wait for the other contents you have been working on. I have a question about Flydigi Controller. Can we fly Su27 with this controller without constantly trimming the jet or can i auto trim it?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately no. No matter what kind of controller you use (gamepad, flight stick, HOTAS, simpit), you must trim the Flankers to get them to cooperate. They're quite the hassle to fly.
@ALEX336X2 ай бұрын
This can be used wired on Xbox?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
No. PC, Android, iOS, and Nintendo Switch are the only officially supported devices
@ALEX336X2 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas yeah, thanks. Apparently there are adapters you can buy that make it usable on Xbox. The controller was actually in stock at Amazon so I grabbed one. Worse case scenario I just use it on PC.
@itsjcob45702 ай бұрын
Do you have to charge if you only use wired?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
USB cable will keep it charged. I haven't tested to see if it depletes energy faster than it charges... but I can't imagine that being the case.
@itsjcob45702 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas appreciate it
@vovazagach1781Ай бұрын
What do you mean by USB cable will keep it charged?,
@TuuvasАй бұрын
The controller has a battery. And a USB C cable connected to a power source will charge the controller...
@vovazagach1781Ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas So the controller works from battery even if I use cable? So what should I do when battery dies, get a new controller or what, I wanna know can I play only with cable without using the battery at all?
@fares55q452 ай бұрын
سؤال كيف استفيد من الازرار الزايدة؟ ما لقيت اي احد يشرح بشكل واضح
@rolzmusictest25912 ай бұрын
من البرنامج نفسه، انت تحدد وش تبغاها تكون
@abhijeetdey2 ай бұрын
Is this wireless on xbox?
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Only PC, Android, iOS, and Nintendo Switch are officially supported
@McGregor432 ай бұрын
For COD, I'd say use reWASD to get the gyro to work but COD bans reWASD :[
@fares55q452 ай бұрын
كان شرح ممتاز انا ما اعرف اللغه الانجليزيه بشكل جيد لاكني فهمت شرح المقطع من 70% إلى 85% كان شرح جميل جداا اتمنى لو فيه ترجمه عربي شكرا لك على وقتك وجهدك في المقطع بالتوفيق
@zman2159Ай бұрын
Won’t let me download the software 😭
@ChristianTM-_-s2 ай бұрын
Awesome review!
@sayibandsusu50132 ай бұрын
Nice
@abhijeetdey2 ай бұрын
The background music is too loud
@ShayanNickАй бұрын
Bro your background music is so load !
@ashwrightyy2 ай бұрын
Mine only has a manual in chinese
@YISP722 күн бұрын
Background music is too loud and a bit annoying. Good review otherwise👍
@curtisdoughtyx134728 күн бұрын
Can I buy the controller from you it’s out of stock for me
@Jewls8382 ай бұрын
man i hoard this controller if only the sticks were the same set up as the playstations. I cannot reprogram my muscle memory and hand placement for the life of me for xbox setup controllers
@MarioGoatse2 ай бұрын
Brother it sounds like you’re doing this review in a restaurant with a very loud pianist. It’s unwatchable.
@Tuuvas2 ай бұрын
Interesting. This is actually the first time people are mentioning anything about the background music over the last several review videos. In your opinion, would it be better to axe the music entirely? Or just simply tone it down so it's barely audible?
@MarioGoatse2 ай бұрын
@@Tuuvas Personally I don’t think the music fits at all, but another song or genre will. Just tone it down so it’s barely audible without focusing on it. I use headphones when watching KZbin, so I tend to notice weird audio mixing. Maybe people on their phones with less dynamic speakers don’t notice it? Phone speakers tend to be tuned towards to highlighting voices.
@clappncheekzzz77652 ай бұрын
The music gotta go
@iyeetsecurity9222 ай бұрын
@@clappncheekzzz7765 Make your own video then ya crybaby.