Flydigi Vader 4 Pro - The Best of 2024?

[@muhdbala9528]

Never clicked so fast! Great video as always 👍

[@tokooltoread]

Another banger of an informative, in-depth controller video!

[@gadadolofonoi]

We finally got the review! Well done, as always comprehensive and well-explained.

[@xenith8762]

Hi, how would you compare this with Machenike G5 Pro? Is it worth the premium price?

[@Adam-pk7go]

Im very glad i found this, trying to get full details on the the stick accuracy, latency, and software is very difficult. Thanks for the comprehensive review

[@goobatroopa_]

This is a fantastic review. Great job demonstrating the stick rebounce with slow mo visual on controller + testing screen. I don't think the function settings transfer to switch mode. At least the rebounce algorithm doesn't work as the rebounce is consistantly there when tested on the switch stick tester. I love the Vader 4 but if you're getting a controller only for switch there are more suitable options.

[@F34RALI]

This might be the most detailed review on this controller rn Ty I know what I want now

[@DmitryCee]

It's here! Great review as usual! Especially the teardown part.

[@elishaduncan2479]

Great review mane i love those controller for flydigi i been playing with it for a while now and it's up there with the best of the best.

[@rinosurber7919]

Make a test about BigBigWon Blitz 2... i allready ordered one. I will see. I'm curious about your opinion about it.

[@VKsChannel]

I'm trying to get one soon

[@C23451]

@@VKsChannelHello I received today my flydigi vader 4 pro controller and controller have stick drift between 1% to 3% on left and right stick? even after calibration it is still there

[@shaundasheepmurphy1589]

Received mine yesterday and it is by far the best controller on the marker, it is awesome, having used the Elite 2 for years and trying the Razer Wolverine (sent it back) the Vader 4 Pro is truly a masterpiece of a controller, its taking some time to get used to the rear buttons having used the Elite series but I have only had it a day and already I think the positioning is better, the triggers at the mouse click mode are super responsive, the stick tensioners are far superior than the Elite 2

[@lukafireman]

Do the Victrix Pro BFG as well, please

[@raiden15crew85]

Good for you for acquiring the Ultimate Weapon. I've the ACIV: BF Edition.

[@geenaxion]

About to get mine in just a couple of days. The only thing i don't like is the back button placement, so I'm gonna get one of those back paddles mod for this.

[@kratos21491]

Haha Just like others was waiting for this one. Thanks a lot man.

[@vanhne26]

The dpad can remove,just kinda hard to take it out,im using keycap puller to put the dpad out.

[@ProNerdy]

Had to wait for you to review the V4 Pro before purchasing, the option to get rid of stick snapback is awesome to see!

[@VKsChannel]

Thanks! I wish I could review it sooner If there's a controller you'd like to see a review let me know

[@ProNerdy]

@@VKsChannel I can't think of a specific controller, but I'd be interested in how you store all your controllers

[@VKsChannel]

@@ProNerdy I don't have much space to store thousands of controllers like the gamer heaven channel so I keep some that I really like and the others I sell after the review is done

[@michaelpeterson4880]

Easysmx x20😊​@@VKsChannel

[@astreakaito5625]

Where do I even buy one in EU.. this thing seems only sold on some suspicious looking online stores. Also I already installed Flydigi's software and it looks like it's conflicting with DS4W. On a single computer I'm planning to use this Vader 4 and keep my Dualsense around but it's gonna be very annoying to switch between the two controllers.

[@thelolrus7491]

Aliexpress. It's a chinese product, you are just getting upcharged if you buy from more 'local' sellers elsewhere. But wait a bit for the hype to die down. Even the V3P price has shot up from this release. When I got my Vader 3 Pro on Ali like 4-5 months ago it was $45 and now it's going for ~$65, which is more on par with domestic resale prices.

[@gridselix]

Flydigi has in board memory. Just set the profile into the controller and then quit the software on your pc

[@tranner85]

Thanks for the review. Can you also review the EasySMX X20?

[@CaptnYestrday]

Can you address stick outer Dead zone and stick latency issues? A firmware update should have fixed these, but they were biggest problems with the controller. I haven't seen anyone updating their reviews so can't tell or no if these issues have really been fixed

[@VKsChannel]

I reviewed with the latest update so the results you see are already with the fixes

[@kklum6998]

Very thorough review. Kudos.

[@zen_xenomorph]

The D-pad isn't fixed. You're just saying the same thing as other people instead of properly checking. It's identical to the VP3 D-pad apart from being black. You can swap them around and it requires a similar amount of force to remove.

[@VKsChannel]

Mine was stuck I found out later that its still removable

[@keithancajas4623]

calm down.. he obviously tried taking it off lol

[@felipeborges830]

Nice review! I have this controller, its awesome for fightin game (and any other game)... I'm waiting for Fatal Fury City of The Wolves from SNK, because thats the game I'll be using this the most outside of KoF2002UM

[@ryozaki96]

Is this kind of disc D-Pad good in fighting games? compared to the DualSense D-Pad?

[@SaffronHorizon]

The Apex's select button seems to be more easily accessed compared to the Vader

[@stevensv4864]

bro when u gonna get any controller with new TMR sticks i want to know ur detail review of thse

[@VKsChannel]

I already reviewed them 🤣

[@stevensv4864]

@@VKsChannel i mean new controller with them not old one with gulikit hehe. like PB Tails Crush Defender or Gamesir Tarantula

[@toolanddie9789]

I just got one. Let me say, there's a back paddles mod, to make it similar to an Xbox elite controller. Also added grip tape. It's better than me xbox elite, and my aimcontroller!

[@sousaptak]

VK bro, hows it going ? I have been waiting for your review. My vader 4 pro is yet to get shipped and got delayed multiple times due to no stocks, I will be deciding now if I should cancel or keep the order. Keep it up my man !!!

[@VKsChannel]

If you have the apex4 you can skip the vader 4 pro Unless you really like the clicky triggers and C and Z buttons

[@sousaptak]

@@VKsChannel I have vader 3 pro

[@VKsChannel]

@@sousaptak if it is still working than you don't really need to change, the new analog sticks are great and some of the settings are nice too especially if you play mostly shooters and maybe smash, but I don't see them making a big difference on any other kind of game

[@Paman2K]

very good review . about to grab vader 4

[@junatanscott9457]

maybe I'm gonna wait for the apex 5😻 still happy with my apex 4 😻

[@MrDoordude125]

Any chance you can review the BIGBIG Won blitz 2? Looks like a very good FPS controller

[@VKsChannel]

Trying to get one soon

[@doctorzee1809]

is it actually worth upgrading from the 3 pro

[@VKsChannel]

Only if you really want the upgraded sticks

[@doctorzee1809]

@@VKsChannel is it a big upgrade would you say, i do want to be more competitive in shooters

[@VKsChannel]

@@doctorzee1809 yeah they indeed are great for shooters, and maybe smash, so if you play more shooters then its a good idea to change

[@hantuan107]

i immediately throw my old xbox one controller to the trash after trying this, no joke. it's that good

[@YISP7]

How is that for someone not that experienced with controllers? I'm a KBM user but play some racing or adventure games occasionally with XBOX controller. Is it easer to learn/adapt with this?

[@williamardley491]

Does it work on Xbox series x

[@vianmaro6732]

FINALLY!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE BIRTH.

[@darkavera]

For me , to multiplayer gameplay is my favorite. Have cons, like disconection bug and app of Android is a trash. But the controller is Very good with your brother Apex 4.

[@Keemochi420]

do you have any recommendation what controllers is great for big hands :D

[@VKsChannel]

Theres a pink one from dareu I've reviewed here Its not the best controller but it is very chunky and good for those with big hands

[@Keemochi420]

@@VKsChannel okok imma check it out. god! i've been trying so hard to find a controller that is chunky specially me living in SEA were majority people have cute hands 🤣

[@Grimlo9ic]

4:31 Hey VK, the dpad on the V4P is still removable. I have the silver dpad from the V3P on mine because I think it looks better.

[@VKsChannel]

Are you sure? Mine didn't come of Perhaps it is stuck...

[@Grimlo9ic]

@@VKsChannel My Imgur link keeps getting deleted, so I'll just say yes, it's removable. It's on there tight but once you remove it the first time, it loosens up. It has the same support structure underneath.

[@VKsChannel]

@@Grimlo9ic Yeah i just confirmed it is removable, It just was REALLY stuck on my unit

[@willy7968]

@@Grimlo9ic is the one on the vader 3 pro removable also?

[@Grimlo9ic]

@@willy7968 Yes, it's removable.

[@cerberus_uwu]

Good video! - decent controller.. but personally i prefer the Flydigi Apex 4

[@Ogk10]

In n switch mode can it connect to a PC with the stick or does it require Bluetooth?

[@VKsChannel]

Yes on switch mode it will be detected as a pro controller but it can only connect via bluetooth not with the dongle I think

[@pokemario8673]

Sorry that Nyxi can’t sent you the warrior anymore. But you can still personally purchase it off of their website or an Amazon. Did you know that the Nyxi Warrior uses optical switches?

[@VKsChannel]

Based on what I've seen from other reviews I still don't think they nailed the gamecube ergonomics correctly and this is the most important thing on a gamecube controller Doyoki and nyxi both still fails at this

[@pokemario8673]

@@VKsChannel you know your job is too tell everyone about the truth right? Besides this controller also work on the GameCube and Wii

[@Xamy-]

@@pokemario8673? What do you mean.

[@pokemario8673]

None of the other reviews did any teardowns

[@pokemario8673]

And I need to find out where can I find these optical switches I looked everywhere on Google, but no avail

[@maybebutwhatever]

2:24 they actually change texture of the grips. Now it's similar to xbox series gamepads which is awesome. Finally a flydigi gamepad that's feels nice to hold. For me it one of the best things that changed 😁

[@toonoobtobepro527]

You can get talon grips which feels the best

[@maybebutwhatever]

@@toonoobtobepro527 I'm good with what comes stock here. Not really a fan of any stickers

[@AnonYmous-uk5jv]

@@toonoobtobepro527 I got these, Apply easily and make it feel much nicer, particularly for sweaty mitts.

[@balikif]

My Vader 4 Pro came with stick drift and jitter at the test panel in the flydigi app the pulling rate is at 200-300 hz when the controller on the desk without touching it.. I tried to reset and collaborating it but nothing worked only increasing the dead zone

[@VKsChannel]

I heard flydigi has worked on an update to improve the deadzones Have you updated it?

[@knasiotis1]

Best controller I ever used

[@VKsChannel]

Flydigi is awesome

[@--AISAKA]

cant wait for you to review the new Hori's Steam Controller. :P

[@VKsChannel]

Is it even worth it?

[@ninelivesysf]

You are a godsend

[@J0rdan912]

Hi VK, I see a debounce option in Flydigi software that removes constant jitters and running numbers, making it always rest at perfect ~0.0002. But my PS4 and PS5 controllers with stock joysticks, always had that "jittering" and it's always constant running numbers on gamepad tester website, just like at 13:50, never resting at ~0.003 or whatever it's supposed to be for PS controllers, tho sticks works perfectly fine. Can you tell what is it? Is this normal for PS controllers or I have some faulty controllers? Should I worry about those constant micro-jitters and movements?

[@VKsChannel]

Yeah this is normal and some consoles will even filter this noise I think this is the case for the ps5

[@tgordon681]

Should probably note that the stick latency is higher than the buttons.

[@goobatroopa_]

Oh! I didn't know you could remap the direwolf 2 without software! Thank you!

[@X_KingPapzak_YT]

what is better flydig vader 4 pro or flydigi apex 4

[@ZimpanX]

Vader 4 Pro unless you need the screen of the Apex 4 for on the fly remapping Advantages of the Vader 4 Pro are mouse click triggers, less wobbly (more stable) face buttons, extra C and Z buttons and a more elegant solution of adjusting stick tension.

[@VKsChannel]

I still like the sticks on the apex 4 more But the vader 4 pro is not bad

[@CaptnYestrday]

Instant Watch!

[@benji-menji]

Happen to know any controllers with an X-Input mode with native DSU Client support for motion controls with a dongle? As far as I know, I haven't seen a controller that supports motion controls on PC without some compromise like a Switch/PlayStation/DInput modes or Bluetooth only.

[@corpingtons]

Plenty do machenike does aorion many Chinese controllers will American controllers really suck right now so trash not even 1 good American controller that exist that’s high end

[@corpingtons]

Name 1

[@idogaming3532]

XInput makes it impossible to have real Gyro. Any controller promising that is mapping the Gyro to a stick, making it 4-axis, not 6-axis. Switch/DInput (DualSense) makes it possible, but analog triggers are absent in switch mode, and DInput is absent on many modern controllers. Some DInput-mode controllers may expose their back buttons as separate buttons in DInput mode. Therefore, if your game supports DInput controllers and you want BOTH gyro and analog triggers, use DInput. Just keep in mind that you may not get the advertised max polling rate when using DInput (the Apex 4 supports it for example), for example, the V4P, the max polling rate is 125Hz without an overclock on PC with a 13.08ms min input lag for buttons when in SWITCH mode.

[@raul1642]

vk will you review 8bitdo ultimate 2c ?

[@VKsChannel]

I had a 9bitdo wukong edition coming but it had the same problem as the vader 4, at this point I'm not sure if they will re send it again, but if they do I will review it

[@raul1642]

@@VKsChannel thanks vk, i love your videos

[@ivana6141]

The apex 4 feels so much better. The extra weight effects the actuation feel of the buttons. It's weird because side by side they seem identical.

[@tomgreene5388]

Paying double for the apex is not worth it at all

[@ivana6141]

@@tomgreene5388 it's not double from AliExpress. This isn't a debate about price. I have the Vader 4. It's a cool controller. I was just pointing out how surprised I was at the feel considering they are so similar in shape.

[@Amon-gh1ex]

dude, apex 4 is more expensive, nearly double price

[@ivana6141]

@@Amon-gh1ex and?

[@VKsChannel]

In defense of the apex 4 it has rubberized grips the design is very cool and the triggers works just like a dualsense controller Sure you can get a dualsense to experience that but flydigi also adds manual suport to games that aren't compatible It feels and looks more premium

[@dankl3ss194]

Can it last for 4 years?

[@VKsChannel]

Yes

[@Sl0th150]

Is the pc app safe?

[@VKsChannel]

Well I checked the installation file via the virustotal website and its ok

[@pawes7418]

You can OC vader 4 pro in switch mode to achieve 1000hz gyro :D but wired xD

[@williamardley491]

Does it work on a Xbox series x

[@VKsChannel]

Only with an adapter

[@mamatutt337]

hope they make adaptor to connect on ps4

[@VKsChannel]

For ps4? There is already compatible ones from mayflash and bigbigwon

[@乾淨核能]

yes~~~~~~~~~~~

[@Psychotoxic86]

Nope, misinformation. You can remove d-pad on Vader 4Pro. I have two Vader 4Pro gamepads and both of them removable.

[@VKsChannel]

I think mine is stuck then because I tried really hard to pull it off

[@willy7968]

are u 100% sure? before I break mine

[@VKsChannel]

@@willy7968 yeah it is removable, mine was really stuck but I removed it safely

[@F34RALI]

Love your content

[@VKsChannel]

Thanks!

[@syn80]

Fake error rate 😂

[@rinosurber7919]

Flydigi on Nintendo Switch? Never...

[@VKsChannel]

Works fine for me

[@rinosurber7919]

​@@VKsChannelyou dont use motion control on it?

[@sergiojetro4522]

so vader 4 is better

[@petermrsandman]

No halleffect? No thank you

[@VKsChannel]

It is hall effecy You can literally see the magnets on the disassembly

[@1of8bn.]

One downside only and that is the backbuttons.

[@SwRthe1]

Why?