King of the Koopas (JP Version) - Paper Mario

[@mysticmeowstic5524]

honestly, I like both the normal and JPN version of this final boss theme, but if I was to implement this into the non JPN version properly, I'd have this play for when you aren't max level, to paint a more dangerous sounding tone over the usual power rush ya get from the original feeling wise.

[@bluerious5475]

Aren’t you normally not playing at max level, though?

[@nethowarrior3294]

@@bluerious5475 yup, because if you level up at max level the game softlocks.

[@HollowLeif]

@@nethowarrior3294 ... No?? I've 100%ed this game multiple times, IF I remember correctly the max lvl softlock only happens in specific situations, like I think it's just with HP and FP up badges, and even then I don't think it's guaranteed

[@nethowarrior3294]

@@HollowLeif yea lol i misremembered

[@hyperten5906]

@@bluerious5475i mean the max level in pm64 is 99 right...? youd have to be actively trying to get that because theres no way you just get that naturally

[@NKBlazer]

I would’ve loved this to play as the Phase 1 music, then Phase 2 would restart the song as the English version. This version is still cool and a bit lighter while still having a final boss vibe. Then top it with the next phase being the English version leaning more to heavy rock.

[@Ffeoli1039]

I was waiting for it to be exactly the same. Lol

[@FruitBALM]

I thought this was from siivagunner

[@jude2214]

Feels like they were going for a kinda yoshis island vibe

[@jackmoon824]

Primera vez que los gringos mejoran una cancion japonesa xD bueno tambien paso con el intro de pokemon.

[@laggianput]

D:

[@solarflare9078]

Besides the guitar being absent in the original version, there’s a different backing instrument that I actually prefer over the US version. Wish we got the best of both worlds there

[@garretdrake2347]

it's not real.

[@dudeman0401]

​@@garretdrake2347Why do you think this? I've heard this in gameplay on KZbin before, you can look it up. There's a regional difference. It's not a SiIvagunner thing.

[@garretdrake2347]

@@dudeman0401 nah man, you can tell it's a silvagunner thing because they play the flinstones theme partway through.

[@solarflare9078]

@@garretdrake2347 Honestly, if you hear that yourself, that might say more about you than us when it comes to judging this track

[@greekfire995]

Is it absent? Just sounds like it's an octave higher.

[@rayman3521]

Me: Can we get King of the Koopas? Mom: No, we have King of the Koopas at home. King of the Koopas at home:

[@joeschmoe2843]

In the most literal of sense. XD

[@joriusdeleon5925]

0:33 Demoman: Not one of ya is gonna survive this. Mario: I Think I made a chocolate egg in my Pants

[@juanzapata1354]

¡¡¡¡¡¡¡SMG4 REFERENCE!!!!!!!

[@pugsriel]

CARBON YOU FANCY TRO- no. *generic Carbon meme*

[@mystikgleam9541]

Someone just put the guitar chorus in and it’s perfect

[@hakujo-w3h]

この曲って日本と海外で違いとかあったんだｗｗｗ

[@lunastifaliamusic]

Honestly, hearing this after the English version kinda makes me laugh a bit. There's quite a few things added, like the sonar ping sounds, and the funky attacker bass they love adding in all their bosses. And then the drop for the best part comes in- my god. Brass??? It literally sounds like a metal guitar track, there's no way THIS was the first version they went with.

[@FanofGuardianTales]

It reminds me of the low HP theme variations from Sticker Star.

[@garsrandom4358]

For me, it’s the thinking part of origami king’s battles that comes to mind

[@kaiserwave5977]

Feels empty without the electric guitar

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

I like way better the PAL/EN version because it sounds more rock and less... Weird?, I guess

[@NL.maRL0]

la verdad opino lo mismo que el shy guy mexicano xd

[@huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn]

how would it sound more rock when the e guitar is replaced by some kind of high pitch trumpet

[@solarflare9078]

@huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn3 That’s what he’s saying. He prefers the English version because it’s more rock

[@JazielDominguez-fk6zu]

Say that again.

[@JazielDominguez-fk6zu]

Digalo de nuevo

[@sharmajp]

Say ehat you will I just love this theme

[@BowlOSoup6661]

I don't know whether I like the cool guitar part better in this or the U.S version

[@SegaNintendoGuy64]

I won't lie, This version is absolutely rocking better.

[@lordputin4057]

EN Sound better for some reason

[@beroberonikanika]

雑にギター入れたバージョンよりこっちの方が好き

[@FanofGuardianTales]

In the description you wrote that it plays when Mario fights Bowser again in the JP version. Bowser's battle is divided in two parts: in the first one he's invincible, in the second one he's vulnerable. When the second part starts, Mario figths Bowser again. My question is: does it play when Mario has been defeated by Bowser and tries again, or does it just play during the second battle? About the second case, here's my thoughts: The original sounds much more intense. Bowser has been caught off guard by the sudden loss of his invincibility, but that doesn't stop him from giving his all. With or without invincibility, Bowser will give to Mario a bad time. The first part sounds intimidating, the drop shows that Bowser has had it with Mario's attempts at beating him, and the third part... well, I'm not sure about it. Maybe, it reflects about Mario's upcoming victory. Mario will win, no matter what. Why? Because he's Mario, duh! It goes... down, Mario is slowly defeating Bowser. But then, the song loops. Bowser can heal himself. The fight continues. This one sounds less rockin'. Bowser already beat Mario, who's now, yet again, trying to beat him. Bowser is even more confident, he fully believes that he's gonna win because he already beat Mario. It sounds more creepy, since Bowser has proved once again how powerful he is. It doesn't sound as intense as before because Bowser won once again, he has owned Mario for the umpteenth time in the *same* game, not multiple games, in *ONE* game. He gave hell to Mario, now he's just enjoying owning Mario yet again. I don't know if when Mario game overs in the final battle against Bowser the game goes back to the last savestate and no one in-game remembers about it, or the characters remember about it. In the second case, YOU still remember it. YOU saw Bowser owning Mario yet again. The song has changed because you saw it happen. But what if this plays in any occasion in the JP version? What if the version we all know isn't present in the JP version? In the case, what I said about this version applies anyway. Bowser has been caught off guard, but he already gave hell to Mario, he's still sure that he'll win, he proved once again how powerful he is and blah blah blah. This makes more sense IMO. Why has the first song, which reflects on how powerful and almost invincible and unstoppable Bowser has become, named "Bowser's Rage" when the more intense and rockin' song has been named "King of the Koopas"? Shouldn't it be the other way around? If this is the original version, it'd make more sense that they've been called like this... but not completely.

[@limeanimates]

The English version wasn't in Mario Story (Paper Mario's Japanese verison) at all. This is the one that plays in the 2nd part in Japan. It was changed in other regions.

[@aidendavid2680]

0:33 sounds unfinished

[@tytheguy13andahalf]

why did they make regional variants?

[@NKBlazer]

Can’t say for sure, but my guess is regional differences in desired sound styles for audiences. This version favors more to brass and keyboard, while the other favors more to an electric guitar. I’m thinking the non Japanese version they anticipated those audiences wanting a more “rock guitar” boss theme.

[@MetaKiteZX]

@@NKBlazer almost 100% it has nothing to do with regions, rather the composer or someone else in the sound team wanted to improve the track for the international release.

[@garretdrake2347]

they didn't. it's not real

[@shirobomber]

​@@garretdrake2347GARFIELD, ARE YOU /J OR /SRS????

[@YourAverageSpelunker]

@@garretdrake2347 this guy is just convinced this is a government conspiracy or something when it literally plays in speedruns and is the real thing 😭

[@AriyanArinKhan]

No, I got to shoily apu first!

[@AmitSujauddin]

Stop!

[@MadSociety-uy6zg]

Damn I love the music we got but damn wish we got this instead

[@bluerious5475]

Imagine wanting something that gets rid of the amazing metal guitar riffs in this song

[@supremekingbowser3471]

@@bluerious5475 That's your opinion, also I too like this version more 🤡

[@thelegendarymarioman8461]

No lol

[@limeanimates]

@@bluerious5475 "gets rid of" sir this is the original

[@BowlOSoup6661]

​@@limeanimates He has a point though

[@Narteketh]

am i the only one who likes this one more than the us one? really?