Commute on 60+ MPH E-Bike

[@Aastan]

I am a believer! Great video. Check out my build here: kzbin.info/aero/PLakYQlTVlPCoZofVloSZPoWfdjtixTP80

[@kingjamez80]

I watched all of your excellent videos before I built my bike. See my red-carbon vinyl on the side covers? Only reason I did that is because I watched you do it first. Now I'm on to building a Solar power system :-) We'd be friends.

[@Aastan]

Ditto! A buddy of mine build and laser etches ARs. Best of luck on you future projects.

[@Fastxfords99]

This video is amazing.. I would live to build that bike, where do I start?

[@Fastxfords99]

Jim McPherson how did you build this bike? Can you post a parts list?

[@ChristopherForand]

Love the squirrel and the SUV pulling out. Shows all the perils of commuting on two wheels! So weird having acceleration with no noise.

[@kingjamez80]

Christopher Forand Yes! It's been eye opening. It has become apparent that EVERYONE is on their cell phone posting selfies while driving. Certainly not watching out for me. The silent acceleration is very very nice. I'll be hard pressed to ever buy an ICE again.

[@ChristopherForand]

All things have their place - I'll take you for a ride in my Corvette or the FJR.... :)

[@kingjamez80]

Absolutely! I look forward to it... even if their place is a museum ;-)

[@JohnHughes2002]

No V8 gas motor, as you Americans might say.

[@matframpton6177]

I rarely comment but your vid deserves it. Very well done sir! Nice, informative, soothing music. Professional. Thumbs up my man.

[@pedalassisted]

Great video! I enjoyed the soothing music and your safe riding habits. Stay safe out there. I love commuting on my fast ebike too!

[@wrapzoo295]

How long does battery last on average if your not hauling ass the whole time???

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

simply badass

[@petertwiss356]

Finally someone with normal music on a youtube video. Nice bike as well!

[@jiveturkey9993]

Electric bikes are total zen. And im not a hippy by any stretch of the imagination but the ride is something everyone needs to experience.

[@friz92fsakalildirty33]

You should post the full build !

[@stclairstclair]

You tried to kill that squirrel!

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

Going to work never been so fun!

[@olegantonov2539]

Super cool - I commute from Sterling to Tysons. I can see my commute on Route 7 a breeze with this beauty 🤔

[@Hyperious_in_the_air]

damn near smashed a squirrel at 1:17, lol

[@getagriptv6718]

LOL i saw that , thought i was the only one.

[@akassebaum]

I get that it can go 60 mph. I just don't know if I would be comfortable riding on the main roads. I don't trust that people driving behind or beside will respect your space. Also how is the suspension going at those speeds? I've hit brief gaps and it can be jarring at 20 mph.

[@roccpro5021]

Nice bike! Thank you for the name of the music

[@enditallrecords]

killer video, but what is that music homie?????

[@GeneGetman]

what is the motor winding on your QS205? I have 4T and top speed is only about 53mph

[@vineinc.5690]

How did you lace the hub motor into the 17in wheel and also how do you set up Regen braking? Thanks

[@dylanbarger9044]

Is this legal? Aren't we crossing the line of using a bicycle on roadways at high speeds? Is it registered or licensed plate

[@IvanStarling-kg1ei]

Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. kzbin.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.

[@Buckarooskiczek]

It goes but how does it stop? Curious of your brake set-up.

[@kingjamez80]

It has both regen braking, which is very effective, and dual disc brakes.

[@tyhnbgtyhnbgt]

After using my detective skills. You're on Va-286 Washington D.C.

[@patrickteto]

Hey there Jim. I was just wondering if you would post a detailed list of what bike you started out with and the pieces needed to get up to 60mph when needed.I'm saving up for a Zero but think I can divert a few coins for something similar to what you have made if its not real expensive?I only have 1 and a half good legs after my Cancer nonsense and would love to ride and conquer some of the state land I was able to hike not too long ago that do not allow motorized vehicles but have numerous bike trails,and don't worry I'll hide a pin switch that will limit the speed to 20 MPH if the local Gestapo has an issue.I'm subscribing to your site now and will check back from time to time to see if I asked to much from ya.If so I understand and look forward to you getting one to do 80 MPH. ;)

[@macfosch]

Very nice project ! Can you please detail the motor spec and brand, ESC spec and battery type (LiFePo4 ?) ? And estimated total price (without battery) ? Thanks

[@kingjamez80]

It's mostly mentioned in the description. The batteries are HK Graphene Professional 10Ah packs in a 20S2P configuration. Total price was around $2.5k.

[@williamcarroll5402]

Is that the good part of maryland

[@mackymaca]

Great video! What bike is this?! Incredible.

[@dougie151185]

How much did the bike cost

[@Jesse-iw5yp]

Do the cops ever hassle you for driving? Im worried if i build one they will fine me for commuting.

[@gerokatseros]

wonderful bike and area you live in!!!! how much did the whole bike cost in total?

[@mrtay14]

Love the bike Jim McPherson just out of curiosity how long does your 28ah battery last peaked at 18000 W or whatever full acceleration might be In terms of overall distance?

[@eddyjawed4871]

I built a bike that hits 45mph. However the back wheel spokes are caving in. Cannot sustain the load of weight me + batt + motor inside wheel. I need an alloy wheel motor hub

[@duwaine96]

Eddy Jawed EBay

[@TheFootbaldd]

What do you mean the spokes are caving in? Did you not tension them enough? I am halfway through designing a similar project and I decided to use 12 gauge spokes and motorcycle wheels. With a single cross in the rear, the spoke angle isn't optimal, but I will break spokes before ever seeing them "cave in". Spoke wheels operate on tension, not compression.

[@CraftyLemons]

Do you need a license, tabs, insurance or anything for this? My whole idea of getting something like this is to commute to work regularly and save $ on gas, and yearly expenses associated with driving a car or motorcycle. Can this be considered a bicycle?

[@justbecause8085]

Yes, it is technically considered an electric bicycle. Check the rules/regulations in your area as many now have restrictions on the wattage of ebike motors. However I can’t imagine most law enforcement have anyway to test or prove the wattage of your motor and the issue could probably be solved with a small sticker that displays the “correct” wattage placed on your motor😝

[@justbecause8085]

Oh, so no. You do not need insurance or a license plate.

[@aldntn]

The bike operates at motorcycle level. I'd suggest a motorcycle helmet and armored riding gear. A get off at 60 mph will change your life.

[@kingjamez80]

That's exactly what you see me wearing in this video.....

[@ajregester]

Did you watch the video? The video shows him wearing exactly that in the first 30 seconds...

[@simonjack8122]

Even 50km/hr falling onto the road without body armour hurts like hell 😂

[@mikeortiz9005]

How much I like , I want one

[@jclar3565]

16 miles of range. Yeah that's about right with these big no-pedal bikes. Don't underestimate how much energy pedaling contributes, on bikes like the M1 Sportechnik Spitzen, which is plenty fast for an 8 mi commute. It can't quite flow with 40+ mph traffic like the bike in this video, and that makes a faster bike both less and more safe..

[@ChuckRayNorris]

What rear fender is that. I want one.

[@bigtimetreat00]

i want to build a bike just like yours mate! i am going to start by saving up for the frame and the forks

[@d-dogjackson7933]

just looked up that motor.. Wow

[@jackInno91]

what motor do you have on? crystalyte?

[@tyriecarter9549]

I might get this, is this better than the motor cycle bike

[@afishyfella]

Did you buy or build? If you built it, got a build video?

[@AntoniusK]

I went to high school right up the road from here. Chantilly, right? So odd seeing this in my recommended box.

[@mbabcock111]

But you're still stuck in the 'crawl'... I bought a pedalec to remove myself from this madness. I went from a ~60 minute hilly commute down to ~23 minutes with exercise as well.

[@drewphillips8236]

Do you get any trouble from cops having that dirtbike style seat.

[@wrapzoo295]

Ever get pulled over???

[@tonymckee148]

thats what i want to know.....how can you go that fast without seeing one cop......did he have the bike registered or something we dont know......i dont know why these bike frames have license plate holders but i havent seen anyone get it registered .....but im buying the 8000w or 12000 watt from alibaba

[@LittleLightIsaOnce]

Why not lane split it is safer i think

[@mackymaca]

Where is this, by the way?

[@walterbyrd8380]

Is this an e-bike? Or an e-moped? Or an e-motorcycle?

[@jason3064]

What percentage of battery power did you have left.. Great video

[@jiveturkey9993]

Jason E ithink he said at the beginning he uses about 50% one way.

[@annalisa360]

what is the name of ebike?

[@waltermarshall3289]

Love it got to have one.

[@richr909]

Cant believe you were riding a bicycle on the highway. I would never do that. Too afraid that someone would hit my ass here in NY with these crazy ass drivers. I'd be on the shoulder the entire time

[@roypatterson9910]

How much did it cost you to build this come and how far can you go on fully charged batteries?

[@MasterQuack14]

a F.U.T.R Alpha frame will run you about $1100, 72v 23ah battery will run about $1100 as well. A Crown motor kit from EM3EV will run about $800. So, $3k before front forks, shocks, tires, and bottom bracket. So, all in total you are looking around $4-5k. With these builds range is inversely proportional to speed. So, for example a TC4065 build would get about 100 miles @20 mph, 60 miles @ 30 mph, and 30 miles @ 40 mph.That is why in this video he goes through half his battery in only 8 miles or so, because he is doing significantly higher speeds.

[@ronbrown8611]

MasterQuack14 this guy is correct. But rangr can aldo br affected by the efficiency of the controller. If you had an efficient kelly conytroller then you could get about 10+ more miles. I will be comparing my lyen to a very large kelly motorcycle controller. The kelly is about twice the size of my lyen.

[@ronbrown8611]

I have a HPC around 3000 watt thousand watt hub motor running off of a lyen speed controller at 100 volts and 16 ahr battery. I only get like 42 mph. I feel like I'm wasting the voltage. I want more speed but I'm not sure what the problem is caused by. I know its not the batteries because it says on the QS website that a QS motor goes 60 mph at 74 volts. It's either my motor or my controller. I'm truly not sure. I'm leaning towards the problem being my HPC motor.

[@ronbrown8611]

its a crystallyte crown hpc motor

[@kingjamez80]

Couple of things you need to look at. The first in my mind is the battery. As speeds increase the power draw exponentially increases as well. If you are using 18650's and only 16ahr I'm almost certain that is your bottleneck. I'm using 20ah of LiPo that can handle discharging at 200 amps and I need that power to get to high speed. You also don't say what kind of wheel you have. Pairing the motor turns with the wheel diameter in conjunction with the voltage is the key to optimizing the power output of your motor.

[@ronbrown8611]

Jim McPherson I use 16 ahr lipos from.hobbyking same as your batteries. I can put them in parallel to make 100 volt 32 ahr or many combinations. ex. 100 volt 16 ahr. not sure if my moto is.the high speed winding. I think the lyen 12445 84 132 volt speed controller is outdated.

[@ronbrown8611]

Jim McPherson my batteries are 10 C rated more than enough. they're not the issue.

[@ronbrown8611]

Jim McPherson HPC sent me an email saying I should hit 60 mph 65 amp.battery and 120 phase current. I think my wheel is around 25 to 26 inches in diameter. my front wheel is 26 inch and my back wheel is slightly smaller. Maybe more like 24 25 inches

[@lobsterstrange]

How the hell you got that thing to go 60mph??

[@illuforce]

Maybe he is in full tuck?

[@terryi8892]

Most cool. Get a motorcycle helmet and crash gear to be safe , a spill at 60mph or even 20mph on a bike can be bad .

[@romanf5666]

he is using a helmet mummy

[@mainesailah]

Just curious why you don't use the bike path? I can't imagine it's legal to ride in a car lane at the speeds you are doing? I'm planning a very similar build qulbix raptor and planning on trying to be a little stealth about my commute. Love the bike!

[@kingjamez80]

It's legal to ride in the car lane with a pedal bike, mine has the capability of exceeding 60mph so it has no trouble keeping up. Riding what is essentially an electric moped on the bike path isn't really fair to the real "riders" and runners, walkers, so I stay off of it when I'm at high power.

[@mainesailah]

Jim McPherson interesting did not know that. I can only assume if I were to try that it would attract the wrong attention in my town. Planning on using bike lane and just giving others the courtesy by not closing high rates of speed.

[@verablack3137]

Maybe legal where you are, but Washington State has a limit of 20mph on E-bikes, it would be considered a motorcycle here, and it has to meet all the DOT specs, have tags, title, etc. That being said, I wouldn't exceed 20ish on a bike path many aren't really designed for it, much less the other people who may be using it, and on the road keeping up with traffic is always best if possible.

[@ajregester]

@Vera Black These bikes are in a gray area in many states as far as the law goes. It would not be considered an e-bike due to it's higher speed than allowed by e-bike definition. You could probably make the case that they are in the "motor driven bicycle" category, which is the same category as scooters and 49cc mopeds, although in many state laws those are defined in terms of cylinder displacement, which doesn't apply to an electric vehicle. The laws have some catching up to do.

[@TheGuruStud]

Where's all the traffic?

[@ter8901]

You into spy stuff too? Silencers and E bikes lol

[@mustafaballa1835]

How many

[@ohfo429]

I'm wanting to build an ebike but I've never done anything like it before. Would you recommend building this for someone like myself?

[@ohfo429]

Also... what makes this bike so fast?

[@kingjamez80]

I'd start with something "smaller" than this. Check out endless-sphere.com thats where I learned most of the ebike specific stuff. The most important thing to understand is the batter management. The battery has a lot of energy and if not used correctly, it'll burn your bike and has happened all too often, your house with it. I started with a much less powerfull BBSHD mid-drive bike and then moved up to this one.

[@kingjamez80]

The speed is the combination of the number of turns in the hub motor with the size of the wheel and the voltage of the battery pack. Getting the bike to actually sustain high speed requires power (Watts in this case) so the batteries, controller, and motor all have to be adequately sized.

[@ohfo429]

Thank you for your help!

[@ohfo429]

I've got a lot of learning to do... there's so much terminology that I don't understand.

[@quiettime1351]

I can’t believe i watched this whole video

[@kingjamez80]

I can't either.

[@donkba5605]

What bike is this called

[@MasterQuack14]

The bike is a Qulbix 140 frame.

[@ckcurtiskuhlman111]

SPECS!

[@PatrickXVRC]

1:16 Squirrel!!!

[@ddrhazy]

Have you ever been stopped by cops while riding this?

[@kingjamez80]

Never. I’ve passed several. I’m not bothering anybody, and ride conservatively, they have no reason to give me a second look.

[@ddrhazy]

Do you feel in danger when you're riding at near highway speeds? Would you actually consider riding this on the highway at 65 mph? Have you ever had close calls? What would you say is the difference between riding this 60 pound bike vs. a motorcycle which may be 400 pounds? Sorry for all the questions but I'm so intrigued.

[@TheFootbaldd]

I don't know what his weighs, but mine is a lot more than 60lbs. I need to find a good scale to check it on, but probably twice that and change. I have 19" dot wheels and tires as well. The bike feels great at 50+. I got really unnerved about not having mirrors at speed, so I ordered a set today. I wouldn't ride interstate personally. I never rode street bikes, just dirt bikes myself. Compared to 125s and 250s, I am having a blast. Its a different feeling for sure.

[@kingdomreturn304]

Yes the song does mean its a dream come true lmao Im definitely getting one I heard stealth bomber and enduro are the best love how you manoeuvered and road along with other vehicles according. Imagine if we could get one that dies 100 miles would be awesome, had the cops chasing me on one just for fun on manual bike I called him a wanker I dusted him lol

[@johnnyzee383]

Thats 51 kw/km...wow...im running a modified Emmo Zone with Crystalyte controller, 100 volt Lithium pack and 5200 watts..and top speed of 55 kph (28 pole motor!) and I use about 37 kw/km ...and a much heavier bike!

[@ABritInNY]

John that's because your top speed is that much slower... 55kph sounds fast, but it's a joke compared to 60mph! The energy consumption requirements required to combat wind resistance above 25mph effectively mean you need to exponentially increase power every 5mph increase in speed

[@beyondfossil]

Nice! I ended up watching this entire video because it was exhilarating. But that single mirror on just one side of your bike... thinking like a bicyclist on what's really a motorcycle -- with kinetic energy and approach speeds to match. Sorry that single mirror is a pet peeve of mine. It looks weird and is a hazard for in-traffic riding. :)

[@Tambo74]

I'm sure if a major company invested in the mass production of the high powered lithium cell batteries for to make these bikes, the price to buy one could be affordable . I however can't really justify paying for such a fragile piece of machinery the amount for a really decent one for example $12.000 for an Electric Bike like The Stealth Bomber, but i would love to borrow one for a week to see if i would change my mind.

[@cutty02]

Sur ron bee

[@Eph_2_8-9]

The batteries used in these bikes are what power Teslas.

[@azazansari6580]

this shooting from bike or car it is not clear

[@houseofsolomon2440]

🏆🎖

[@johnevenson6803]

So what did the police say when they see You breaking the law.

[@kingjamez80]

They said people should mind their own business.

[@sbdr.1241]

I too commute on ebike only difference is in my commute is drivers with roadrage extreme pot holes, idiots on cellphones holdng up traffic on red lights or swerving cause again they're on cellphone people cursing you out or tailgating extremely close

[@ronbrown8611]

Is this legal where you are? I thought 20 mph max 750 watt and has to have pedals?? I want it to be legal but its a shame

[@cutty02]

No he is riding illegally and will eventually get busted. These bikes are the reason why they are cracking down on ebikes. If you want to motorcycle then register it otherwise follow the law.

[@ronbrown8611]

Cutler Cycles yours are illegal too hypocrite

[@cutty02]

Look at the date moron. When I made my bike they were legal in California (1000watts up to 30mph on road) the law changed in 2016. You are blatantly and knowingly breaking the law.

[@ronbrown8611]

Cutler Cycles this guus in dc. Whats the law in cali? Theres a video of you riding recklessly on your channel. Whats the wattage of your bike? I find riding with common sense will never get you into trouble. Iv gone by cops for years. The rule is slow down, get to the side and start pedalling and they dont give a shit whether your bike is legal or not. If you have the moto seat then thats a ted flag but you can still get away with it. Keep the bicycle seat and ebikers will never get in trouble. If looks all beefy like a moyorcycle then your screwed.

[@cutty02]

You can slow an pedal but it is still an illegal bike and should be registered as a motorcycle . There is not a video on my channel of me riding recklessly on the road or in an illegal manner. off road is different. My bike only had a 1000 watt motor so it was legal in California up until 2016. It was also limited to on an offroad configurations.

[@fcbrants]

Jim, where did you purchase your Mobipus 72200?

[@kingjamez80]

I got it from Sam at Ballarat ebikes.

[@fcbrants]

Thanks Jim!!

[@tatawaki]

you said build. Did you build this from a kit? links?

[@kingjamez80]

No, I built it from individual parts sourced over several months of watching sales. The biggest piece was the frame which I bought on eBay. It's an Electric Enduro Bike (EEB) frame. Once I decided on a frame I could then make decisions on the motor, controller, and batteries. I designed all of the electronic controls (startup, mode selection, brake and turn signals) on an Arduino that is mounted inside the frame.

[@michalkmiecik]

4:10 look, Tesla!

[@kingjamez80]

Ha! I hardly drive this to work any more since I bought my Model S.

[@alohajason]

virginia cops give you any trouble yet? and where's your lunch box? haha

[@kingjamez80]

alohajason I ride it conservatively and haven’t had a single issue with cops. I have passed many. My lunchbox is in my back pack. Works great.

[@seeker7679]

Before everyone gets too excited, most states/provinces have a 32 km/h speed limit on electric-assist bikes. So know the rules before you go flying down the street.

[@snoops7942]

why not just cruise in the bike lane

[@perppatrol1713]

Whats the mileage on this bike, as Im deffs considering getting it

[@nicholausmckenney7789]

Lol. I work right next to u

[@dynamitrex3975]

You can't do this in the uk... it's illegal to drive on the road with a bike

[@saabuldin]

protizemo s it's not illegal to ride bike on UK. Its only illegal if you ride anything bigger then 250w without pedal assist and if it goes more then 15.5 mph.

[@dynamitrex3975]

I know, its just that you can't ride an ebike that has no setting for going at 15.5 mph max, even if you go slow. Its so not fair, you guys in the USA get to ride flying cars at 62 mph right now and scooters too, while all of us in the uk are stuck in 50cc dirt bikes and 15 mph ebikes. The uk is starting to have the status of an expensive jail

[@helenHTID]

+protizemo s The legal limit in US is 20MPH 750W. So this dude is illegal unless he has all the necessary paperwork

[@MegaNayton]

I believe the way around it is it cant be more than 250w continuous so you can have a 1000w ebike but must not give out more than 250w when on the road and be limited to 15mph with pedal assist on it. Truthfully I've had a 1000w ebike for about a year now passed many cops and not ones given me a second glance its all about how you ride and as long as your not doing 30 plus with out even looking like your pedaling then that's where you'll get your self in crap

[@captaincrunch7944]

And you don’t have to register it and inspection and all that bullshit

[@davyscales7732]

Wonder when the government will cotten on to road tax for these so called bikes.

[@MasterQuack14]

Everyone who owns these also owns a car, therefore, they have already paid their road tax. They should get a tax REFUND as these bikes at 60-80 lbs don't put very much if any relative damage to roads long term compared to a motorcycle or even a car.

[@ronbrown8611]

MasterQuack14 fucking right!!!

[@ronbrown8611]

Davy Scales those assholes better not tax us

[@mbabcock111]

MasterQuack14, and by extension, those riding a 'e-transport' solution should get a tax credit or rebate of some kind.

[@tstartrekdude]

I would happily register a powerful ebike like this and pay some reasonable yearly fee, but as of right now the government will not let me. It would not be hard to put DOT lights on a bike like this and have it be just as safe as the little 50cc scooters running around. Hell require a motorcycle license even, but give me a way to register these light fun little transporters.

[@pibblesnbits]

This is a motorcycle not an ebike lol.

[@mbabcock111]

Many authorities have excluded steam powered, electric motorcycles or diesel-powered two-wheelers from the definition of a 'motorcycle', and credit the Daimler Reitwagen as the world's first motorcycle. Given the rapid rise in use of electric motorcycles worldwide, defining only internal-combustion powered two-wheelers as 'motorcycles' is increasingly problematic. So... Clearly the definition needs to change.

[@akio2589]

Why? Just something else the government needs to stick their nose in and gouge money from people for... Just what I need, more money out of my paycheck for bullshit.

[@lukes-uf4bc]

We cant see real speed lol

[@SHAUNDJFISHBEATSMARTIN]

its illegal two be on the road with an e bike hope you know that

[@kingjamez80]

Not even close to being illegal.

[@wacka2]

seriously bro ?

[@chevyssboy89]

Jim McPherson so u never got pull up in the dmv?? I just order one even faster powerful then urs... i live in fl ... 8000w 40.6ah panonaic battery motorcycle tires n rims $2700 from china shipped to my doorr from Alibaba.com

[@chumleywarner7245]

Nice bike,shame about the logo..!!

[@Gabi-he6rw]

get some mirrors

[@Andromediens]

I don't like the design, looks too much like a cross I prefer the bomber design, way better for a bike

[@kevinhooper2787]

No informational value and as for the music it makes you want to listen to Kenny G or Michael Bolton .

[@kingjamez80]

What in the description made you believe it would be an informational video? This is a demonstrations video of the capabilities of my ebike.

[@1FishinAddict]

These stupid kids want everything on a plate lol

[@mikeortiz9005]

How much