Kingpin is Absolutely Ruthless in *Daredevil* (S1 E3-4)

[@DosCavazos]

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[@craiglortie8483]

now you know why we freaked out with kingpin being in hawkeye!

[@defunctus408]

Have you seen the 2018 animated movie "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse", Kaycee?

[@EdmanXERO]

38:33 "Oh, I thought he was gonna close the door on him!" Fisk: "Say no more, fam."

[@jaketrovillion6159]

Bruh LMFAO. Best comment I've seen all day.

[@stnarud]

I cackled when that was said LOL

[@Linator4]

I’ve seen The Boys & while that show gets gory af with instant graphic explosions, seeing Kingpin gradually decapitate someone’s head with a car door just hits different. Like I was genuinely traumatized & terrified of him after this episode.

[@Mr.Abreu.76]

Vincent Donofrio's acting in this show is impeccable. His Kingpin is both vulnerable and terrible in a way that is utterly terrifying.

[@012gage]

I’m so glad he’s back 👏🏽

[@primusfan87]

i can’t wait to see him in Daredevil: Born again

[@grdoxsme]

The same way she is totally digging Matt I dig Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin. He just gives me the chills. Somehow Vincent's performing is a natural development of his character on Full Metal Jacket, constantly suffering bullying. This is how you develop a Villian. I would love a Kingpin solo show just like HBO is doing to penguin.

[@shade08538]

Absolutely ✨*Immaculate* ✨

[@grdoxsme]

I would love to draw your attention for a second a give it a round of applauses to stunning beauty forever Ayelet Zurer AKA Vanessa Marianna de Fisk. Their chemistry. She's charming, efortless, feline, intelligent AF, classy but humble, and she embracess the character... They both make me feel empathy... Empathy for the man just smashed a car door to decapitate a guy.... Empathy for the amazing woman just fell in love on this broken grown up boy.

[@LeeCarlson]

The scene in the taxi garage is one of my favorites as it demonstrates why he's called "the devil of Hell's Kitchen." I also love when Claire starts laughing because she KNOWS what is coming next.

[@gchild1286]

That’s the exact same way I feel about the scene and usually the comment I leave when I watch one of these reaction videos.

[@brandonleon4068]

So glad you are enjoying this series, for many of us, the best super hero live action series. The way they develop every character, they even in future chapters make you feel empathy to the brutal Fisk through his past and make every character important. And through every episode, (specially last season, no spoilers) Fisk make Matt's life more difficult, in order to getting rid of him just for business but clearly becomes something personal to Fisk (making him suffer just to prove his position on piramid) so painful how the more Matt wants to do what he thinks is right, the more difficult are everything for him (even making him cuestion his morals and the worth of what he's fighting for). More delicious tension and dilemmas every chapter every season.

[@cheekyboomboom8973]

"Read every single page. Give it to Matt." lmao unintentionally hilarious

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

One of the BEST things about this series is the non stop parallels between Matt and Fisk. Glad you picked up on that. There are episodes coming up that delve into both of their childhoods and how trauma and loss shaped both men...and how their fathers shadows haunt each. Great stuff coming- and I can't wait for you to see what's going to happen!

[@LeeCarlson]

It is called a "flashback" when the narrative flashes back to an event/encounter that has already happened but informs the present event.

[@aaronbonogofsky4463]

Kingpin is easily the most terrifying MCU villain. It’s not that he’s a mountain of a man who could easily break bones without issue. It’s the manipulation of any situation that he finds himself in to his advantage. He controls people through their desires and forces people’s actions against their own interests for his own gain. They need to let this version of the character shine brighter in the criminal underworld of the MCU. 😈

[@sparks3705]

Strongly disagree. Killgrave is a MUCH more terrifying villain than Kingpin...

[@bloodymares]

@@sparks3705 Not really, because there are people like Kingpin in the real world, who manipulate, blackmail, and destroy people's lives for their personal gain. They are a real danger. Killgrave is terrifying, but only in a comic book universe.

[@johnsantos507]

​@@sparks3705 Except one thing: Killgrave is dead.

[@sparks3705]

@@johnsantos507 Spoilers much?

[@johnsantos507]

@@sparks3705 Yes.

[@jesseclark3697]

Fisk definitely has anger issues, and really they are just another way for him to mirror Matt. Remember the beginning of the first episode? Talking about how the Murdocks have the devil in them, and then letting him out? Which we then saw in the very next scene when Matt just kept beating up someone who was already incapacitated.

[@hucken666]

Hawkeye Fisk was a whimp. He is so much more menacing and human in Daredevil. one of the best portrait villains so far.

[@chriswhinery925]

Wilson Fisk manages to be one of the most terrifying villains in the entire Marvel cinematic catalogue without having any superpowers at all, and that's 100% down to Vincent D'Onofrio's acting. He sells the character 100%.

[@wearywanderer7018]

I mean, he plays it very well but a lot of the credit is on the writers and director.

[@kevinsieg2076]

I'm so glad that you're watching Daredevil. When this show came out several years ago on Netflix, it seemed revolutionary for the superhero genre. It ran for three seasons, and a fourth will be released sometime in the coming year. Kingpin was a minor villain in the comics, and it wasn't until the artist of the Daredevil comic, Frank Miller, began both writing and drawing the book that the Kingpin became a better character. The entire tone of the show is directly based on Miller's work. Looking forward to your next reaction.

[@brandenharvey9817]

"He doesn't seem like the dating type." He's evil, not dead.

[@BS.Claire97]

I really like this kingpin. To me he seems like a grounded character. Hes not just a 2-bit character. He gets scared and he gets nervous. He thinks back and reminisce on his past but also has issues with his past. He just seems like a real person rather than a comic book character

[@andmicbro1]

Yeah, Kingpin is a fantastic villain! He's very nuanced, and at times you really sympathize with him. He's obviously not a good guy, and as time goes on, and the seasons progress, you realize the levels of manipulation he really goes to. Kingpin is a lot like the Lex Author of the marvel universe, he's deep into crime and manipulation, and a tactical genius. Luthor is a bit more like an evil Tony Stark, while Kingpin is much more physically imposing, and much more like a crime boss.

[@seasickviking]

She considers FISK brutal? I can't wait until she meets STICK.

[@brandonleon4068]

Fisk snd Tick are different kind of brutality, one is a man full of anger and other a ninja with a relaxed mind with no pity for his victims. One is just brute strength and another s ninja with decades of training. Different types of brutality

[@diegopansini3152]

That's a very odd comparison

[@teddylyon1189]

Stick used a sword to decapitate people. Fisk uses a fucking car door. Ones definitely more brutal

[@mikeog2617]

Hes called stick because he got the bigger stick lol

[@Hopehubris1492]

Best new phrase: flash back is now and forever, “time behind”. Thanks for that!😂 great reactions. Keep it up!

[@chrisd7047]

Kingpin has 2 "powers," though they aren't powers in the comic book sense. He is highly intelligent and a superb planner, and he's very, very strong for "just" a human. The Marvel Database lists his max lift at 650lbs, but I think that scale needs to be reconsidered. Given that the actual, real world deadlift record is 1104lbs, held by Halfthor Bjornson (The Mountain from GoT), keeping the Peak Human limit at 800lbs for the database might need to be adjusted. For the purposes of the show, I guess the important thing to know is that Kingpin is a lot stronger than Matt.

[@SharkWayneGaming]

When Hawkeye said to Kate Bishop "This will not end will, he will react." This is what he ment. lol Now you know how he "Reacts" and why it will not end well with King Pin. lol

[@robertnichol3669]

Daredevil does do justice when comes to Fisk (very much straight from the comics here). In a later Netflix series "The Punisher" (which should be one your list..lol), Also shows how much a villain he is. Vincent D'Onofrio this actor who plays him did his homework and knocked it out of the park in both series I thought.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

KingPin isn't in the Punisher tv series You're confusing when he met Punisher in Daredevil S2

[@Grizzly_6623]

Wesley is such a badass, this show directs/write every character so well

[@LeeCarlson]

To say that Wilson Fisk likes Vanessa is to seriously understate the depths of his emotion, and hers as well.

[@regent2125]

In the comics, Vanessa Marianna became the wife of Wilson Fisk, The Kingpin. This show features her background and history, which was never explained explored before.

[@nintenmetro]

@11:17 I’m no expert, but this is hands down one of the best courtroom scenes ever. I’m not gonna lie that I knew about Kingpin from Spider-Man: The Animated Series, but it didn’t click me that Wilson Fisk is Kingpin. It took me a while to put two and two together. I just always called him Fisk and that name just kinda stuck.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

I realized when Ben showed the King card to represent Fisk

[@diegopansini3152]

In Hawkeye, they gave Fisk superhuman strength, being more comic accurate (despite Kate somehow managing to, ya know, not EXPLODE from his punches) In Daredevil, his strength levels are more grounded, less exaggerated. He's just a really buff dude

[@reynaldolorenzo8409]

I wouldn’t say superhuman, it was peak human strength and durability like the comics. Spoilers for the seasons one finale! In this they also have peak human abilities but it was poorly showed and inconsistent because Matt in this season finale jumped over Fisk and flipped him, he FLIPPED Fisk, a 450lbs of pure muscle and he did it like nothing but then his punches doesn’t do much to the normal criminals. They were inconsistent, I don’t remember if it was in S1 or S2 but I think it was in this one and they introduced the meditation that he also uses in the comics to heal quickly and only used it once, how many times he could’ve used with all the times he was almost dead? This show is a masterpiece but if I had to criticize something it would be that season two had too many storylines, it was used for a lot of set up and The Hand storylines are not that good written but the season I still great thanks to DD, Frank and the supporting characters, and that even tho this is more grounded they were inconsistent with the characters feats, sometimes they were peak human and other times they weren’t.

[@diegopansini3152]

@@reynaldolorenzo8409 He ripped out a car door and that car door flew like it was weightless. It was definitely superhuman

[@reynaldolorenzo8409]

@@diegopansini3152 No it wasn’t, peak humans do shit like that. That’s the whole point of them training their body to peak human so they do unrealistic shit but not on superhuman level. Look at the shit Bruce Wayne can do or when Natasha Romanoff that has a weak version of the serum said that Frank hits harder than her and is stronger, peak humans in comic book does ridiculous feats but super humans are those that can lift tons like Spider-Man, he is a street level superhuman and Daredevil is a peak human street level.

[@The_Butt_Cracker]

They didn't give Fisk any more strength in Hawkeye than he had in Daredevil. In Daredevil, Fisk is shown breaking out of handcuffs like they're nothing, tanking multiple stab wounds to the gut unarmored, and punching holes in concrete. He's always been shown as having peak human strength.

[@diegopansini3152]

@@The_Butt_Cracker Yes they did. Did you forget that he flung a car door like it was crumpled paper and landed punches that sent people flying in Hawkeye? He couldn’t do that in Daredevil. His punches were brutal, but not “send people flying” brutal

[@Dresthatguy-t1n]

Her reactions to the brutal scenes is priceless 🤣

[@linkloudenback8359]

There’s always been some debate on the Kingpin’s abilities and powers. It depends on the story line and comics line. I know from the early comics he was just abnormally strong because of his size but I think they changed it when they rebooted all the comics in the 2000’s.

[@dunringill1747]

I can see your enjoyment for this show and the characters involved is just going to grow.

[@Woofwoof1929]

This netflix daredevil is amazing. This is what a comic book show should be like. Great music, writing, directing, acting and its so dark and raw. The story is great. All 3 seasons. The end of two gets a little odd, but one and three are great and first half of two is awesome because they introduce punisher

[@angelohernandez6060]

It was implied in his early years that Fisk might be a mutant and that is what made him stronger and tougher than your usual mob boss. I think though in the MCU they explain his toughness to armored suits and him being really fit.

[@andmicbro1]

Well, in other appearance he's very much the same. In comics and in animated shows. Daredevil really kept more grounded and real, but I actually liked that better anyway, he was dangerous, yes, physically imposing, yes, but it's his control of the city and the crime angle that really makes him terrifying. Like he's a powerful man, and not just because of his physicality. Also I think it works better for live action. Hawkeye was almost comically done where him picking up cars and stuff just looks silly. He was so much more well done in Daredevil too that Hawkeye was like a sad attempt to do what daredevil did, but half as well.

[@reynaldolorenzo8409]

When tf that was implied? I’ve never read that. A lot of normal human characters in comic book they train their bodies to peak human abilities, Bruce Wayne and all the bat family, Conan, Frank Castle, Matt Murdock, Wilson Fisk, Sam Wilson, all the Arrow’s, etc, that’s how they do stuff that normal human can’t do. Fisk is 450lbs of pure muscle, he is a beast, he is not a mutant.

[@angelohernandez6060]

@@reynaldolorenzo8409 It was in his an early appearance in Spider-Man somewhere. And it was implied it didn't mean that that was fact.

[@angelohernandez6060]

@@andmicbro1 Yeah, I also like the more realistic Fisk from the MCU. He's a lot more intimidating when you know that this big "fat" man can snap you in half and it's not because he has a superhuman advantage but just that he's a almost perfectly focused juggernaut of power.

[@trickykondo1021]

Timebehind, to when the word "flashback" was being used.

[@hannahabbot4250]

Taxi company is called Veles, and that's a Slavic pagan god. I'm very glad you're enjoying the series. 😘

[@fusionaddict]

“I know that he is Kingpin, and I guess that makes sense with the whole bowling tie-in from the beginning of the episode…” ALL MARVEL FANS WATCHING THIS VIDEO: *stares incredulously*

[@danielruiz8259]

41:19 Agree, and i think that's because he isn't a just a villain, we are seeing another side of Wilson Fisk, not for personal gain, but because he likes Vanessa, which is very endering seeing someone portrait as a monster, someone you shouldn't speack about and someone you should be very careful to seeing him act human. And i think is the why his appearence in Hawkeye wasn't as good. Here we can see more of him, what he likes and dislikes, we can see he has a genuine interest in this woman and attemps a human connection wit her. But also we see his worst aspect, his psycopathic behaviour and anger, lack of remorse for killing someone. Just in general, so good. Just hope the MCU can give him that same or similar nuance as the Netflix show did.

[@aaronlewis4369]

the thing about Fisk is that he always have an extra layer under his suits for protection and there bullet proof as well I think.

[@marciahuehn2365]

Loved your reaction and analysis. This series just gets better and better as the characters evolve and face their situations.

[@jakecleveland1051]

The term you were looking for about the time behind is In Medias Res!

[@winniethepoohesq.5697]

loving the solo and duo reacts lately !

[@kevinlowe4953]

I was soooo waiting for you to get to THE KINGPIN....yeeeeeeessss... he's the badass.... can you imagine him brokering a bad deal with Thanos.... I would die

[@quimnz]

flashback lol 😂

[@mathmexican4234]

I'm just sad Marvels iteration of the show won't have things like Kingpin and the car door. I wish they would just make R content and just label it as such. So sad they have to make everything available to children.

[@The_Butt_Cracker]

I thought the exact same thing up until now. The new Echo trailer seems to indicate that Marvel has found their balls again. But the violence is only half of the equation - we'll have to wait and see if they're actually able to _write_ him well again.

[@steved1135]

Yup.. that's Kingpin. Hands down best Marvel villain. And he's not the villain of this season, he is The Villain of the street level Marvel universe...

[@aaronlewis4369]

FISK DOSENT HAVE POWERS HES JUST A REGULAR BRUTE THAT IS REALLY STRONG .

[@markadams9473]

Wilson Fisk has armour within his suits, will be explained further in the episodes

[@marcobrinckmann1012]

Wilson Fisk isn't fat, he's pure muscle.

[@amara139]

Spoilers -- when you see *why* Fisk is attracted to this painting it is heartbreaking. This is a tremendous show.

[@tori7428]

you should watch Jessica Jones after this, at least the first season, it's great

[@metoo7557]

It's OK to be addicted to Daredevil

[@bensneb360]

Kingpin is too doors what Daredevil is too hallways, if they catch you in one, your done lol

[@bobbymartin440]

It's funny, Kacee, to see You recognizing Kingpin! I know that You and Anthony already watched Hawkeye. I loved Your Reactions BTW, but for most of us, WE were excited to see him AGAIN in Hawkeye because we had already watched the three Seasons of Daredevil! Keep up the good work on these Reactions! See You for Episodes 5 & 6!

[@LeeCarlson]

Fisk's suit coat has a "tactical" lining like John Wick's suits.

[@brewcityjesus]

I think you mean a flashback or show a back story? Kingpin is hilarious! No have ever reacts to it.

[@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer]

9:40 this guy looks like the Walmart version of Leonardo DiCaprio lol.

[@toryfloyd8935]

Funny

[@patmurray9730]

Ever see "Into the Spiderverse?" Kingpin is in that also.

[@davidbragdon7069]

I really never cared for Karen's character; not because she's a "bad" person or anything but because she's something of a 'Pippin'. If you've seen the LOTR trilogy you might recall how Pippin was always making one boneheaded move or another which invariably made an already bad situation so much worse. That's how I view Karen. I don't think this qualifies as a spoiler because by the end of episode 4 you've already seen her making three very bad decisions (every time for understandable and relatable reasons but even so highly questionable) 1) Lied to Matt about having kept the file, then went to retrieve it herself almost getting herself killed in the process, 2) When presented with the NDA opted not to discuss this with Matt and Foggy but went to a reporter instead (You might think she didn't want to endanger her friends but I suspect the real reason was she was convinced they'd advise her to sign and drop the matter. She was hoping for a more satisfying response from Ben. Like a child that goes to whichever parent they perceive to be the "softy".) 3) When Ben told her to drop the matter she decided to pursue it herself and attended the auction alone. A very bad move for someone that obviously doesn't have the necessary experience or instincts to play with the big boys. All in all she's a smart girl that does some really dumb crap. Not the kind of person I'd want on my team.

[@jasonaugustine3370]

It would be refreshing if just one time a woman who had not already been saved from dying didn't say that she could take care of herself. Obviously not.

[@danielruiz8259]

1:31 Flashback? That's the only i can think of.

[@slospop1125]

As much as I liked Hawkeye that show did not do Fisk any justice

[@robquin1525]

Well yeah because Disney gave it the middle finger

[@ShadowPhoenix82]

40:33 He doesn't seem like the dating type? What does that mean? You thought he bought sex slaves and valued blood over love?

[@kevinlowe4953]

You guy's are so adorable... yes your husband is adorable too... with his crazy laughing ass... you are like the cutest little sister

[@wonderman6585]

Oh it's just the beginning lol great vid

[@ademozkum2716]

"I really like hearing people speak Russian..." You need to do a reaction to "A Fish Called Wanda!"

[@HasnaaAlaa]

Same, i ship matt & Claire way more than matt and Karen, they have great chemistry and are very cute

[@Khay-77]

Sadly the She Hulk court room scenes are just awful by comparison.

[@mauricio6646]

Yeah but in general any courtroom scenes in she hulk is a joke.

[@LightStreak567]

The scary thing about Fisk in this show is, he hasn't become the kingpin of crime yet.

[@jasonaugustine3370]

In the comics he is like almost 7 feet tall

[@kevincarvalho5054]

yh, Fisk is crazy

[@jasonaugustine3370]

Karen is so naive it gets annoying. This woman lost her husband and she needs to protect her kids. She is doing right

[@damaruslove8688]

Car doors 😳

[@naraclealat]

Their ship name Clairedevil

[@rebornjm]

Well if you have seen into the spider verse the person Wilson is pursuing should sound familiar

[@shlatto4157]

I despise the idea of "anxiety cuz relatable'

[@KingApeiron]

Flashback

[@dontgiveinfo]

The Hawkeye series but more the Disney show ruined Kingpin, as She-Hulk Destroyed Matt. I'm sure after seeing the whole 3 seasons. You will feel robbed for what Disney plus did to these two characters

[@danielruiz8259]

I'm curious, in your opinion, how did She-Hulk destroyed Matt?

[@aakarshverma5793]

@@danielruiz8259 ikr the daredevil episode was the only serious episode in that series, even when daredevil wasn't present, like the gala scene

[@dontgiveinfo]

@@danielruiz8259 The fact that you ask that question. Says a lot of where your mind is at. Not to insult you. I use to be there. The old me would have said the same thing you are saying. Here we go. The scene where after Matt has sex with Jennifer Walters. He walks. in the middle of the day. with his full costume on, without his boots. This was to symbolize the walk of shame that only relates to women. Not men. The writers want to take men down. They wanted to embarrass Matt. No man is going to walk barefoot with his boots in his hands. That is a woman thing, cuz they carry high heels. No man has a walk of shame. That is a woman thing. Understand? comprende my friend? In the Netfix series. Would DAREDEVIL ever ever have this scene and act this way? Matt is an Alpha male, a chad. He always gets a ton of women. The mysandry of the she-hulk writing team is angry that she can't get these types of guys. So they shame men and humiliate them by the nonsense they write. It's why the Kingpin got taken out like a bey-itch by a 21 year old girl she hawkeye after Kingpin punched her with all he's got and she still got up? GT...out of here with that

[@danielruiz8259]

​​@@dontgiveinfo thanks for answering my question. Now that i've seen your point of view, i disagree with it.

[@dontgiveinfo]

@@danielruiz8259 great. I'm sure Disney plus is your cup of tea, enjoy

[@ara_linon]

We love youuuu Make Tarzan 1999 please

[@clownnei]

If they made this show pg it would absolutely ruin it

[@azhar5912]

wish that ship sail😅😢 but alas it’s not

[@ZenkaXIV]

👍👍

[@jotaro4706]

Next demon slayer s3

[@Conk_Creet]

8:11: "Read every single page. Give it to Matt." Matt: (⁠⌐⁠■⁠-⁠■⁠) Yep, that's paper

[@silascallison]

Click 2006

[@MrBreezeLI516]

👀

[@MrDarkSidius]

20:11 Then can I offer you The Americans tv series

[@ra67909]

Kgf 2 ??

[@mahmudurrahman8377]

Marvel's version of Daredevil and Kingpin are very watered down version.

[@m.winfree1912]

❤ Great job!

[@knessing7681]

the Kingpin in Hawkeye is not the same Kingpin in Netflix. The disney kingpin looks like he has super powers (super strength and super durability), as displayed when he ripped off the door of a SUV, survived being hit by a SUV through a store window and a (concussion) grenade blast to the groin, and then just walking it all off at the end of the scene. The Disney+ kingpin is more of a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

[@The_Butt_Cracker]

Not true. Kingpin's actor himself has gone on record saying it's the same version of the character. He's portrayed as being just as strong here as he is in Hawkeye. Daredevil just did a much better job of making it believable.

[@hidhhhh]

Did you drop MHA? the seasons over