KINGrinder P-series REVIEW: P0, P1, P2. Too good to be true for a $22 grinder? 🤨

[@clarkkent7973]

Congrats on the link from James Hoffman video!

[@101kofemashina]

really?! gonna check now! i was guessing where from so many viewers are coming today :) thanks for informing!

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

What I'm confused is, if the P0 is that crazy, why did Hoffmann talk about the P1?

[@XMarkxyz]

Looking forward to the rest of the testing, this video and the new cheap but good grinder described in is making me want to make the jump from already-ground coffee to coffee beans to ground at the moment of consumption, I'm just waiting to see if buying the P0 or the P2 if it is sufficiently better to justify the higher price

[@yxtsama]

Surprised that P0 can actually do espresso, I was kind of undecided about buying it or the P1 for Moka Pot and French Press but I think I'll go with P0. This grinders are also like a miracle for non 1st worlders considering the price, surprising to see an accessible grinder that also is good

Thanks for this review! What is your impression about these grinders (I'm especially curious about the P2) 6 months later? Still could not find any problem with them?

[@IAmJanosch]

great video! You earned a new subscriber! Looking forward to see comparisons between each of the three and which one is best price for what you get and if the number of stars on the burr make a big difference, especially for pour over!

[@TheMythogenic]

Yes mate, please we need more info for these grinders! Make some videos and give your opinions!

[@TheMythogenic]

Thanks for the video, it was very helpful on my decision to get the P0 Now as I am quite new to this, how many clicks would you suggest for V60? Thanks!

[@marklondon3823]

Just got a P2 and it works (thanks to Dimitry)! Thanks for the demo and tips.

[@notsofinecoffee]

Which is better for pour over? P0 or P2? Which one produce less fines?

[@MR94JOKER]

That's really impressive for a 22$ grinder, I honestly think it might be good enought for my kompresso, and good to know we can upgrade the burr too as that seems to be the only difference between them. Thank you Dimitriy and looking forward to the rest of the series

[@IsaG99omes]

I was considering buying a new burr for my old Timemore C3, but buying this seems like an also affordable option.

[@borbetomagus]

Thanks for this comparison. It would be nice to learn how well the P-series compare to the K4 (said to make excellent espresso) & K6 (said to be an excellent overall low-cost grinder, but not as good for espresso as the K4). Still, the smaller burr size, larger microns per click, smaller hopper volume, and plastic enclosure of the P-series all may take away from usability and results, but still probably make a passable coffee/espresso. Just how well they compare to coffee/espresso results the K4 & K6 (and other similarly priced grinders) is the real question for these even more affordable grinders.

[@mervekazan1656]

Hello. Can i grind for Turkish coffe in p2 ? Thanks for nice review

[@user-cb6mm3um1t]

I have a p0 coffee grinder. At the very first clicks you get an excellent Turkish powder, I think that p1 and p2 are also ground into Turkish powder

[@gupipies]

Greetings from Poland ! I just ordered P0 - I will try this for espresso. Best regards !

[@alejrandom6592]

How is it?

[@damienjinxmisa]

Just bought the P0 to use with my new Aeropress based off your video, thanks 🤘🏼

[@chuckleomg]

Does it fit inside the plunger?

[@damienjinxmisa]

@@chuckleomg yep

[@alexandermashkin2395]

Отличный обзор! Дима, я заметил, что вы при темперовке таблетки вообще не прикладываете усилия. Я честно с этим ещё не разобрался, и пока трамбую всегда с по сути до упора, до уровня когда кофе перестаёт сжиматься. И таким образом, с моим kingrinder k2 помол у меня начинается минимум на 49 кликах. Что то можете подсказать? Народу тоже интересно будет

[@Appekz22]

What would be the best for espresso use?

[@sooohaib92]

I am very curious to see how they perform for pour over. Although I would guess the 7-axle P2 would perform best since it's same design as the C40. Looking forward to your response. Thank you for the content bro

[@hmf33]

Hi Dmitriy, if I wanted to use these grinders for a V60 and my Moka pot, which one would you say is best suited? Is the P1 likely the best candidate there? Thanks!

[@hmf33]

I guess since the P0 and the P2 can both grind pretty fine, I may want to go with one with a more consistent grind. Is that the P2? And maybe I can use it for Moka pot and V60 as well if I just change the grind setting?

[@ostinpawers9442]

Для эспрессо какая походит? Бездонная корзина 58 мм.

[@talbroner3715]

which is better for espresso P0 or P2 ?

[@cjclos3258]

Well from my research p0 can’t make espresso

[@Dave-cg9li]

@@cjclos3258Have you watched the video? He tests the fineness of all three, where P0 and P2 do similarly, and then makes an espresso with the P2. I definitely have the same question after watching the video haha

[@cjclos3258]

@@Dave-cg9li I did but the company themselves says P0 can’t grind fine enough for espresso. I also hear people say they don’t get great results with p0 for espresso

[@nasrulsyahirmohdshukri7540]

In my test, both can grind for espresso.. Taste wise, P0 have slightly more body, P2 have more clarity.. P2 grind faster, below 1minute for espresso..

[@mikafoxx2717]

Basically the higher the number, the higher quality the burrs in it. Same with the K series made of metal, but the k4 is espresso tailored burrs

[@Aygross]

Which better for medium roast espresso eith flair.

[@lilia347]

Thank you so much for the review. Would you say the grind is consistent for coarser settings as well?

[@101kofemashina]

yes, sure, just have no time :( i believe in a week i'll finish the tests for a filter

[@TheMythogenic]

@@101kofemashinaany updates?

[@antonomaseapophasis5142]

I can't believe an Italian manufacturer would produce a product with the name "P2"

[@101kofemashina]

man, you make me dive into wikipedia's loophole for an hour :)

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

What is your recommended budget grinder, optionally one which could do espresso in the future.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

From this video I understand best to worst, price wise is P0, P2 and last P1.

[@101kofemashina]

I would say (for espresso): P2, P0, P1

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@101kofemashina Why is the P2 better?

[@wesbgreen1]

Hi can ask if the basket you used was pressurised? Thinking of getting a P0 for a gaggia classic and wondered if this would work.

[@101kofemashina]

UNpressurized!

[@SoulSkoolMusic]

Hi great video i bought a p2 i had a question i see the table said 30 clicks from 0 for espresso should i use that or 8 clicks as you request from 0?

[@101kofemashina]

Check it. May be different grinders have different assembling, however, from my experience the official table has nothing to do with real life results.

[@Busterblade20]

Could you review their K-series please?

[@lloyddotimas6302]

What is your espresso machine?

[@101kofemashina]

on video that was dedica 885 with bottomless portafilter

[@lloyddotimas6302]

@@101kofemashina thank you

[@DigitalicaEG]

Thanks 🙏🏻 you need a shot mirror my friend

[@eatplantsloveanimals]

Is the P1 that much faster than the others? Is the P2 better in any way than P1?

[@horshaed]

Yes that's what I want to know too - the p1 grinds at twice the speed than the others or is that a typo?

[@iritian]

It takes me about 50 seconds to grind 17g of beans for espresso on my P1

[@eatplantsloveanimals]

That's great! Thanks@@iritian

[@nasrulsyahirmohdshukri7540]

I'm using P2 for espresso.. On average, i got 50s-60s to grind 17g of medium roasted beans..

[@rodrigomartinho8635]

Hello friend, greetings from Brazil. Did you reach click 7 counting from click 30 or 0?

[@101kofemashina]

from 0. More precisely, from first click, where burrs do not touch. It's about 8 from the very 0

[@anastasiasukhoroslova2544]

so how do you compare it with timemore?

[@101kofemashina]

for the finest espresso settingss kingrinder P0 and P2 are - surprisingly - better, that timemore. just because timemore can't do so fine

[@101kofemashina]

p.s. i'm talking about c3, not c3esp

[@anastasiasukhoroslova2544]

@@101kofemashina thank you for the reply!

[@nasrulsyahirmohdshukri7540]

​@@101kofemashinai have compared c3esp to P2.. P2 grind faster, but harder to grind.. C3esp grind slower, but smooth on grinding.. Taste wise, P2 is better ..

[@hmf33]

@@101kofemashina What about for grind consistency? Would you say the C3 (standard) has better grind consistency than the P2? I was looking to choose between these 2. Thanks!

[@JohnnyVichi]

james hoffman sent me here

[@kierandelamont2675]

new to your videos, researching these. p0 vs p2 for use on a bambino...does the p0 really stack up just as well or better?

[@101kofemashina]

so far, yes, unexpectedly, p0 and p2 seems to be better that p1. at least, for espresso. p2 is a bit better, e.g. 400-700 µm consistency on P2 is approx. 78%±2% vs 72% on P0. While P1 just can't grind fine enough in these diapason. These are rough measurements, for sure, and I need to test them more. I also noticed some strange effect on P2 with grind adjustment, which I didn't figure out yet...

[@kierandelamont2675]

right on. for $30 CAD i figured i’d give the P0 a try first. an upgrade from my current blade grinder in any case, lol.

[@101kofemashina]

after a blade grinder p0 should be more than perfect, good luck!

[@user-cb6mm3um1t]

И они запрещают для избежания поломки жерновов крутить ручку при значении меньше 8 щелчков

[@101kofemashina]

8 кликов - это и есть примерный диапозон от сведения жерновов до условного "нуля" (когда жернова не трутся друг о друга), с которого я начал

[@user-cb6mm3um1t]

То есть надо отсчитывать клики начиная с 8-го клика?

[@101kofemashina]

Надо - как вам удобно :) Но таблица из инструкции не имеет никакого отношения к реальности

[@user-cb6mm3um1t]

Я имел в виду, когда у Р0 первый клик? Восьмой ?

[@101kofemashina]

@@user-cb6mm3um1t сейчас перепроверил, скорее 10й от полного сведения жерновов. это чтобы совсем свободно ручка крутилась и ничего не шоркало. На 8м ещё чуть-чуть задевает.

[@user-cb6mm3um1t]

@@101kofemashina как получу свою кофемолку напишу, как на ней обстоит с щелчками

[@101kofemashina]

@@user-cb6mm3um1t Да, это будет полезно! Вы с Али заказали, если не секрет?

[@guguigugu]

39€ currently...

[@JOHNOSA]

yeah 1zpresso for pour over not espresso

[@101kofemashina]

hi, sorry for nor answering your previous comment under the unboxing video. For espresso - kingrinder is definitely better, than C3 (with ordinary burrs, not C3ESP, the later one i didn't test), because C3 just can't give such a consistent grind for unpressurized espresso basket. P-series - does. For coarser settings - filter/pour-over - i'll check later. Thanks!

[@6767557]

внешние жернова тоже разные

[@user-cb6mm3um1t]

На сайте kingrinder есть таблица щелчков для разных степеней помола, так написано, что Р0 не рекомендуется для эспрессо, а для Р1 эспрессо начинается с 30 щелчка

[@101kofemashina]

очевидно, эту инструкцию писал кто-то, кто кофемолку в руках не держал. китайцы 🤷🏻

[@ostinpawers9442]

Айм бэд спик инглиш😢😢😢 Я есть плохо понимать о чём этот рассказ😢😢😢

[@JOHNOSA]

p2 better than q air🤔i dont think so

[@101kofemashina]

for espresso - 100%. q air gives too much dust, while p2 - doesn't. and the finest grind levels are similar.

[@JOHNOSA]

so you saying p2 is more consistant than q air?

[@nasrulsyahirmohdshukri7540]

​@@JOHNOSAdo you have test both grinders? He does..