How the Mongols Lost Russia - Medieval History Animated DOCUMENTARY

[@KingsandGenerals]

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[@7gromojar]

If you're interested on why Casimir III did not join his ally in 1480: he was already in "pope wars" against Nicolas Tungen and his allies Teutonic knights. He sent a letter to khan with an explenation.

[@MilitarnyOrient]

Casimir IV*

[@kosa9662]

Casimir III the Great was living in 1330s...

[@riccardocirielli]

@Mohammed adam good

[@MilitarnyOrient]

@Mohammed adam If support from Casimir IV was supposed to be the last chance for this empire, then it was really shitty empire

[@Cancoillotteman]

@@MilitarnyOrient Weellll Polish support did save some great Empires. Ever heard of the siege of Vienna ?

[@KingsandGenerals]

Relevant sources used for writing this video, for those interested in learning more about this topic. Ciocîltan, Virgil. The Mongols and the Black Sea Trade in the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Centuries. Translated by Samuel Willcocks. Leiden: Brill, 2012. Collins, Leslie. “On the alleged ‘destruction’ of the Great Horde in 1502.” in Manzikert to Lepanto: the Byzantine World and the Turks 1071-1571, A. Bryer and M. Ursinus (eds), 362-399. Amsterdam: Byzantinische Forschungen, 16 (1991). Galimov, T.R. and I.M. Mirgaleev. “The Interpretation of the ‘Great Stand on the Ugra River’ in 1480.” Golden Horde Review 7 no. 4 (2019): 652-662. Morgan, David. “The Decline and Fall of the Mongol Empire.” Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society, Series 3, 19 no. 4 (2009): 427-437. Nedashkovskii, L.F. “Economy of the Golden Horde Population.” Anthropology & Archaeology of Eurasia 48 no. 2 (2009): 35-50. Vásáry, István. “The Crimean Khanate and the Great Horde (1440s-1500s): A Fight for Primacy.” 13-26 In the edited volume The Golden Horde in World History: A Multi-Authored Monograph (eds. Rafael Khakimov and Marie Favereau, 2017) Schamiloglu, Uli. “The Impact of the Black Death on the Golden Horde: Politics, Economy, Society, Civilisation.” 674-688. Mirgaleyev, Ilnur. “The Time of Troubles in the 1360s and 1370s.” 689-693. Mirgaleyev, Ilnur. “Attempts to Restore the Golden Horde at the End of the 14- Beginning fo the 15th Century.” 693-698. Reva, Roman. “Struggle for Power in the First Half of the 15th Century.” 699-723. Trepavlov, Vadim. “Factors and Peculiarities Contributing to the Disintegration of the Ulus of Jochi.” 724-730. Trepavlov, Vadim. “The Jochid Ulus in the 15-16th Centuries: the Inertia of Unity.” 730-737. Trepavlov, Vadim. “The Great Horde.” 737-747. Zaitsev, Ilya. “The Astrakhan Yurt.” 747-756 Gulevich, Vladislav. “Ulug Ulus (the Crimean Khanate).” 756-772. Trepavlov, Vadim. “The Manghit Yurt (the Nogai Horde).” 828-837. Gorsky, Anton. “Tatar-Russian Relations in the 15th Century.” 858-863. Zaitsev, Ilya. “Tatar-Russian Relations in the 16-18th Centuries.” 863-871.

[@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory]

Nice of KZbin to make it take multiple tries to share this list.

[@blakebailey22]

Thank you! It's a big pet peeve of mine when history channels on KZbin don't cite their sources

[@romanpopyk]

Mongols never had Russia in the first place, because it didn't exist yet. They had Rus princedoms as their vassals at first and then they lost Ukrainian and Belarusian princedoms to Lithuania in 14th century. Mongols still controlled Muscovy until the middle of 16th century. That's when Muscovy finally broke out from the Mongolian overlords and started to expand and transform itself into the state that we know today as Russia

[@eddierudolph8702]

Thank you, I wish you would do this for all your videos

[@ganizhunis910]

I wish you to make some videos about central asian part of postmongolic time. Long war between kazakhs and jungars. Sibir khanate and was in that time inside the horde. Expansion of the Manchurians. End of the jungars

[@tariver1693]

Great video. As a Tatar myself I'm glad that you acknowledged that Golden Horde was full of cities and not just empty steppes with only roaming nomads.

[@usuhbi]

Where u from? Im a tatar too

[@tariver1693]

@@usuhbi Qazan

[@mucahitorak6962]

@Yeheng Music I am a Nogai Tatar

[@negvey]

nice job coming in and setting back civilizations 100's of years back in time 👍

[@dl3472]

@Yeheng Music it was mostly empty with nomads roaming around they didnt build cities

[@Rahmatow]

1. Standing on the Ugra river was never about a bloody battle. It was rather showcase of Russian dominance in technologies because "gazing" is a consequence of the lack of self-confidence of the Khan of Kazan. Ivan's general Kholmsky intentionally didn't begin offensive due to experience of tatar warfare after two centuries of yoke. So, he decided to stand and prevent any big clashes between armies that would lead to false retreat strategy. Even Ivan the third himself was initially pissed of such tactics but recognized his success when he saw the results. Battle of kulikovo field is more proper example of classic medieval battle in this case but we can't deny the importance of the standing because it led to the reconquering of the horde's leftovers. 2. Ivan really finished the yoke, because Russian princes and later Tsars never talked to the tatars as before. Even payments to the Crimean tatars were more like a raid prevention than real yoke.

[@belakovdoj]

Does it ever happen in other parts of the world? A battle with significant consequences which hasn't even happened.

[@retardcorpsman]

Alexey Belyakov The Saar invasion is another noteworthy example of a battle that doesnt contain any fighting but changed the world. If the French actually went on the offensive during that invasion, they could’ve possibly weakened Nazi Germany and delay WW2 from escalating further. However, since the french were unwilling to fight Germany without Britain’s support and look like an aggressor, they pulled out of the invasion and inadvertently allowed the Wehrmacht to grow stronger without resistance. Later, the Germans would invade the French through the Ardennes the next year.

[@Rahmatow]

@@belakovdoj Честно говоря, про других не знаю, но написал комментарий в ответ на странное описание стояния в самом видео.

[@Ok-yr1fm]

so called "mongols" were primitive till 1991, they became country thanks to Stalin only in 1921, they had nothing beside huts and camels, In order to go to war, country has to be developed , where and how they get metal if they never had metallurgy or ore minding. (according to google) in 1500 mongol population was 600,000 minus women and children, in Russia that time was 15 millions minus children, cz women could fight same as their man. I dont know, people became totally sheep, believe in every garbage they are served and never asking questions

[@kronos4292]

A often forgotten factor in Moscows rise to power was the rule of Ivan I in the early 14th century, he haid gained favor with the Khan through the revolts by Tver, and he was able to reduce raids into the Moscow region, and also oversee taxation for the Khan instead of through the Baskak system. This allowed Ivan to fill Moscows treasury and Moscows security and wealth attracted both the Orthodox church, adding to Moscows prestige and legitimacy, and a large portion of nearby Boyars, increasing Moscows military power. Ivan was able to consolidate nearby lands under Moscow rule. Ivan I earned himself the nickname 'Kalita' meaning moneybags.

[@alekshukhevych2644]

He earned that nickname because he was the taxman for the Mongols lol

[@kronos4292]

@@alekshukhevych2644 Yes that's...what I said, in a bit more detail...

[@okakokakiev787]

a little gold hoarding never hurts

[@dominicguye8058]

@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR how is this relevant?

[@cianakril]

A fact forgotten by whom exactly? That's like the first thing you learn about Moscow rise to power.

[@Pentagathusosaurus]

This is awesome, I was always looking forward to more Russian history but to learn about the empire management of the Golden Horde too is fantastic. We're so used to focusing on the formation of the Mongol empire and it's conquest that I've heard almost nothing about how it was ruled.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

I believe why it fail is more important than why it success.

[@BOIOLA08]

And the sadest thing about the lack of historical interest on the Golden Horde is that this horde survived and was powerful in its region for longer than the "original" mongol empire, but the PR around it was never so strong.

[@blacklion8208]

@@chengkuoklee5734 I know this is 6 months later. The Mongol empire failed just like all empires fail. All empires to stay in existence need to conquer new lands and populations in an expanding cycle to hold together the economy and rival factions (with tributes from the conquered) within the empire. When one faction becomes to strong or to weak civil War begins and decentralisation starts. Ultimately independence and new states are formed. A good example is the collapse of the western Roman empire and new city states which arose in Italy. Then to have independence from Austria, Spain and France. Italy had 3 wars of independence in the 1800s. Mongolia was isolated between the Russian empire and China hence Mongolia's present state land mass today.

[@thorspoczta4436]

Dude golden horde is russia. You are learning of Ruś (Rusyn people) history.

[@wladjarosz345]

russia exists only since 1721! Ukraine is a former Rus and the former Moscovy now is called terrorussia!

[@historywithhilbert]

I swear it was there somewhere in that sea of grass... turn right in Ukraine, avoid Poland and Bulgaria too far..? That's how the Mongols lost Russia.

[@yessir2514]

Okay, I don't get it. Holy Roman Empire, Hungary, Ottomans?

[@sodbayarganzorig3288]

HIlbert, do you mean "kievan rus", instead of "ukraine".

[@annoyed707]

They should have taken the left turn at Albuquerque.

[@janobara6337]

@@masterdreadeye1865 Go and instigate a war over it where millions of people will die. Get real, it didn't exist and now it does. Russia is not the USSR, nor Tsarist Russia, nor the Kievan Rus. Btw, Poland didn't exist before the 900s and multiple times between its founding and today - shall my country give some territory back to Russia as well?

[@Hideyoshi1991]

@@masterdreadeye1865 Ukraine was a member of the USSR until it collapsed in 1991 due to an inept leadership and an attempted coup to overthrow one of the few people who could've saved it. Ukraine also existed during the Russian Civil-War, which I think took place before NATO existed, not entirely sure though.

[@Mirko1913]

As a Bulgarian I find the Russo-Mongol series so exciting. Kings and Generals are the proper team to follow up on Moscovite expansion southwards with the eventual destruction of the Crimean Khanate.

[@sweetdreams961]

You should find it interesting after all bulgarians are mongols and tatars

[@sweetdreams961]

@Erqĭn Məmbetjanuli 🇰🇿 Q̆iyat "Bulgar, also called Bulgarian, member of a people known in eastern European history during the Middle Ages. A branch of this people was one of the primary three ethnic ancestors of modern Bulgarians (the other two were Thracians and Slavs)."

[@sweetdreams961]

@Erqĭn Məmbetjanuli 🇰🇿 Q̆iyat They have a little bit of Slav, but not all of them, they are more Turkic and Tatar dna 😉

[@ArthurD]

@Erqĭn Məmbetjanuli 🇰🇿 Q̆iyat me as Volga Tatar: "WTF are these guys arguing about?"

[@ArthurD]

@Erqĭn Məmbetjanuli 🇰🇿 Q̆iyat сезнең милләтегез нинди?

[@guidodraheim7123]

While editing a few Wikipedia articles I came across the little known fact that the trade routes across the steppe had dried up with the decline of the mongols, and that the arab expansion blocked the east asia trade routes as well with massive taxes on goods. As such China was seen as the golden land and the west european kingdoms started into investing into marine expeditions to get around the blocked land routes - eventually leading to the Age of Discovery. // It did basically start off when the Reconquista (as it was later known) reached the southern parts of Iberia and with the defeat the marroccan sultan in 1340 they could establish direct trade routes with Africa. This led to ships getting better and bigger over time to reach lands more far away up until the european powers reached southern China in 1513 in Tamão. While not in direct contact, the turmoils in the steppe had a dramatic economic impact that would change the world forever.

[@gm3750]

Excellent insights- thank you

[@raaf4678]

It's basicly the arab expansion which led to the west discovering the Americas and the United States with the inhabitants as we know it.

[@klhilde]

Little known fact? Little known to who? It was the entire reason the Portuguese sailed around Africa, and the entire reason Columbus tried sailing west. Jesus.

[@NobodyJones]

@@klhilde I think he is saying not a lot of people know the politics that caused Europe to sail west. It's usually just taught that they started ti sail around Africa for spices without the silk road politics really ever being talked about.

[@cobidbeksin5200]

Arab expansion? What Arab expansion?

[@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory]

Really nice episode guys! Gosh, I hope you have a podcast where we could listen to weekly episodes on the Golden Horde right now!

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@@KingsandGenerals sikh empire please,

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@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistoryplease do on alahudin khijili vs mongols

[@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory]

@@ajithsidhu7183 we already did a video on that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHTXqGWXmal_ac0

[@chengkuoklee5734]

Like the saying:" Just because you can conquer the world on horseback doesn't mean you can rule on horseback."

[@romanvonungern-sternberg1322]

But they did rule it on a horseback duhh. Judging the size of the empire it was quite astonishing how long they lasted.

[@OsmanOsmanHan]

They ruled China

[@apollodivine]

@@romanvonungern-sternberg1322 The Mongols, while achieving great conquests, also controlled a lot of land with absolutely nothing in it. A lot of people tend to forget this fact, and it’s the reason why Rome, Persia, France, HRE, Britain, and China are seen as greater empires/nations in past history.

[@arolemaprarath6615]

@@OsmanOsmanHan It was short lived. The Ming overthrowed the Yuan Empire and pushed them to the North only to be conquered by Russia by 17th to 18th century Anno Domini.

[@OsmanOsmanHan]

@@arolemaprarath6615 Short lived is relative.

[@mikemodugno5879]

Thank you so much for covering this little-covered and little-understood chapter of history. I have spent the past year really trying to understand it, and I really appreciate videos like this. I would love to see more about the successor states of the Mongol Empire. Keep up the good work!

[@elininkoru3739]

Popularly called The Golden Horde, the domains of the heirs of Jochi were not known by that name. The term ‘Golden Horde’ does not enter the sources until the sixteenth century, when Russian chroniclers referred to the domains as Zolotaia Orda, the Golden Camp or Palace.¹ During the Mongol era, they were known as the Kipchak Ulus or Khanate or the Jochid Ulus or Khanate. The Kipchak Khanate appellation came later and was a substitution for the Dasht-i Kipchak, or the Kipchak Steppes. May, Timothy. “The Jochid Ulus or Golden Horde.” The Mongol Empire, Edinburgh University Press, 2018, pp. 280-314,

[@AV57]

How were you able to insert a superscript into a KZbin comment? I’ve never seen that done before?

[@huskyfaninmass1042]

Does that also apply to the Blue and White Hordes?

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@@AV57 It's a copy/paste. If it was in the original script then it will be copied to the comment

[@lukred6271]

Guns and horses dont mix.

[@catsberry4858]

@@huskyfaninmass1042 I had the exact same q?

[@rianfolt7624]

Will you make a video about the battle of molodi 1572 ? It was indeed a fateful battle for Russia, and some compare it to the battle of Moscow in 1941.

[@fleshtearer4399]

No, actually not. But yes, it was important for the russian history.

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[@ongkhuongduy3498]

I start to think that the biggest problem for a dynasty is having too many princes. The Ottoman almost has it right, only if they hold off on killing those losing princes until the Sultans had a couple boys.

[@Vulturefist]

As always, this was a great episode. Thanks for all your great work! Human history is very important for all of us to know about, and therefore it should always be an interesting and enjoyable subject to study. Content like this really helps a lot in that regard. Man, I really wish I had easy access to great content like this when I was in school back in the early 90’s.

[@AJayQDR]

The rise of Russia is one of the most incredible events in modern world, the Russians displaced and replaced hundreds of other groups, if not thousands, in these vast lands forever. I often wonder what makes a nation so great to rise at this pace and leave permanent marks like this in the world.

[@UsmanSiddiq1]

@@Admin-gm3lc Siberia and entire Asian steppe under Russian control was/is homeland of Turkish tribes(central Asian countries+ Turkey) and still depopulated to this day, soon Russia will break and we will move back in !

[@nikfish1]

@@UsmanSiddiq1 lol ggod laugh

[@Alamgir-ri6px]

@@nikfish1 i think he's right Russian Birth Rate is declining. Soonn 3-4 decades turks will form 1/3 of Russian federation and if things wrong they can even conquer it.

[@UsmanSiddiq1]

@@nikfish1 Bro I am not making shit up central Asian countries like Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Krygistan and other Tajakistan all speak Turkish languages. There is difference between Turkey and Turkish people and their languages and up to this vast majority of native non-Russians are Turkish people. It was our name for 8000 years and I personally believe and even Putin has repeatedly made incentives for Turkish population to move back into Siberia and other Turkish homeland areas

[@UsmanSiddiq1]

@@kuvayinizamiye819 My parents has migrated from Tajakistan to Pakistan North cuz of hunger and famine there in 90's.... according to grand father Afghan border was open back then.

[@MetalGearTenno]

When old people talk about the good old days i always remind them of the middle-ages.

[@andypotanin]

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[@bogdandrugov2127]

it is important to note, that Casimir didn`t help Ahmad because of crimean tatars raiding Lithuania, Ivan allied with them for the sole purpose of not letting his 2 enemies to unite also I would like to add that Devlet Giray didn`t burn Moscow cuz of walls too hard for him to assault, but Moscow indeed was burning that year because of extremely hot summer and these 2 events coincided. Nevetheless, that raid was estimated by the contemprories to get 200k russian people enslaved

[@МихаилГончаров-в4ъ]

No, he burned wooden part of Moscow, bud didn't captured stronghold - Kremlin. Entire Moscow wasn't encircled with walls, only citadel.

[@johnoscar1363]

Just like Moscow ship burns bye himself

[@BOIOLA08]

The history of Russia is amazing and glorious. The way Moscow manouvered for centuries acting as a dutyful vassal only to rise against the asian invaders and eventualy become one of the biggest land empires in history is mind blowing.

[@ragnarok6406]

You’ll never understand Rusland. It can’t be measured by a meter. It has especial legend. You just believe it. That is better. (Fyodor Tyutchev You will not grasp her with your mind...November 28, 1866) Russia itself is the universe and it doesn't need anyone. The Russian people are a special people in the whole world, which is distinguished by their guesswork, intelligence, and strength. I know this from twenty years of experience. God has given the Russians special properties ... because in Russia more than anywhere else is stored under the ashes of the spirit, power and strength. I have the honor to be Russian, I'm proud of it, I will defend My Homeland with My tongue, pen, and sword - as long as I have enough life... Catherine II the Great (Sophie Auguste Friederike von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg) Empress of the Russian Empire.

[@BOIOLA08]

@@ragnarok6406 if that was to be taken seriously no one understands anyone. 😊 Besides, the greeks, the romans, the portuguese and many others have odes to their greatness.

[@Dautar748]

nah russians were always getting dominated and graped by other nations

[@tsd74]

Russia continued the path of the Mongol Empire, and also annexed lands one by one. The same peoples that inhabited the Mongol Empire on the territory of today's Russia continue to live on these lands

[@ПавелЗольников-п7э]

Все князья и бояре России помнили катастрофы 1238-1242 годов, а так же 1381. Монгольская стратегия геноцида оставила неизгладимое впечатление на всю выжившую элиту и заставила навсегда поломать феодальные пережитки и лестничную систему престолонаследия.

[@rahulcredentials]

Small correction: You have got wrong Ahmed Khan picture... Actually you got sir Syed Ahmed Agha Khan, who founded Aligarh Muslim University India. Nevertheless, you are doing brilliant job 👏

[@MohsinRaza-uq2ow]

Lmao I ve addressed the same issue 😂

[@ignasaucinikas9398]

Great video as always. I would love a video on medieval Lithuania, there are some great battles and wars. The whole country was based on a so called "war economy".

[@ElBandito]

Unlike what some people think, the Mongols did know how to rule, when they weren't at each others' throats. The outbreak of Black Death, and coming of Little Ice Age were very untimely events.

[@Ok-yr1fm]

mongols never ruled before, Stalin gave them Russian land, Russians alphabet was active till 1991, even today they are not ruling their country, westerners are

[@ElBandito]

@@Ok-yr1fm Buzz off, Russian bot!

[@Ok-yr1fm]

@@ElBandito truth bothering you? want to live in imaginary world? its called mental disorder, calm down Napoleon, calm down

[@wilhelmu]

@@Ok-yr1fm lol

[@Ok-yr1fm]

@@wilhelmu let me wipe that stpd "lol" of your face , go to translator, type any stpd word that comes to your stpd head and see what type of letters you see? EFFING RUSSIAN LETTERS they still use it in translator.( i thought they stopped use it in 1991, obviously those Mighty nobody still cannot create their own) 🙄🙄

[@insertgoodchannelnamehere]

Crazy to think that the last remnants of the Mongol Empire technically existed at the same time as the US.

[@ampeerprime421]

Yeah that shocked me too, I was like: "what the Ottoman do dhere!?" 😂 Yet, the Pyramids were built when there were Mammoths still alive, the Mammoths being the last of the dinosaur era to go. PepeLaugh

[@moralhazard8652]

@@ampeerprime421 the non-avian dinosaurs died out millions of years before the first mammorths came along. Mammoths are believed to have first appeared between 10 and 5 million years ago (closer to 5) whilst the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago.

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

@@ampeerprime421 God, did you just claim Mammoths existed at the same time as dinosaurs. Unless you count crocodiles and birds as dinosaurs, in which case we are still in the dinosaur era.

[@blackwidowsm]

@@MichaelDavis-mk4me crocodiles li Ed in same period as Dinosaurs. But there are many periods in history not just Jurassic. Crocs have been there from the start. Oldest living species on earth. Really large ones were known crocodilians they were more aquatic than our crocodiles of today. Even crocs have evolved . Some could swim like a fish through water with monstrous longated jaws others resembled our crocs. History brings wonder into life and those crocs let’s just say brought more adventure than other fish, mammals ever wanted to experience.

[@orboakin8074]

I think this is the only video and series of this kind on KZbin. Hardly any videos of the Mongols losing their empire exist, besides the one made by Epimetheus. Thanks for this content, friend.

[@lifeisfakinawesome4386]

Lithuanian kingdom with Rus warriors from Kyiv and Volynia has fought the mongols, at 1321 they captured Kyiv, and at 1362 they fought the mongols and captured the south, where they found fortress Kochubiev, which then became Odessa

[@ИнИс-щ8д]

Kochubiev became Odessa only four centuries later.

[@Thortron007]

Your channel always seems to answer the questions I ponder from your previous videos... amazing work!!

[@umair.p]

12:13 Syed Ahmed's picture is of famous Sir Syed Ahmed Khan from British India from 19th century

[@reichfuhrer1942]

I really love the rise and fall of the Mongol Empire and it's successors. The world was at their finger tips, but they always end up killing each other for power. tsk

[@nimblehuman]

Always over succession, they never did figure out how to hand power off to the next leader without a total mess (to be fair, many other civilizations have failed in this regard).

[@lukred6271]

Yes and the invention of the "gun"

[@jacopoabbruscato9271]

@@hoponpop3330 Indeed, these mongol succession struggles look very much like what the romans had in the 3rd century

[@russkayaimperiya5779]

Good.

[@ze_kangz932]

​@@jacopoabbruscato9271At least there is a civilidstional continuity with the Romans, in that the USA and western countries can be viewed as its rightful successors. The Mongol Khanazes just disappeared like historical anomalies lol

[@faizanshamsi1]

Hi, i like the series prepared by the channel. Just one correction in this video, the portrait you used for Syed Ahmed is of Sir Syed Ahmed from 1880s, Sir Syed Ahmed was from sub continent

[@sagaramskp]

From Indian subcontinent

[@arqamghaffar1996]

I was shocked, what is old man doing in that far steppe land 😂😂😂😂

[@OsamaJalil]

@@95MAFS the picture used is of a different syed ahmed at @12:20

[@kevinkim5893]

Lmao! Adding “sir,” to his name.

[@EmporerAaron]

As always a great video from Kings and Generals.

[@not-much-but-enough]

One of the best channels on KZbin.

[@VojislavMoranic]

And in the end the Mongols use Cyrilic and are never to rise again. Poetic.

[@GarlicOasis]

"Never to rise again" You don't know that. Their rise in the 12th century came out of nowhere as well.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Wonderful video. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

[@mdandrews]

Having a history degree in this day and age with all of this free 10/10 historical content on KZbin is a joy.

[@gaius100bc]

How and when exactly Lithuania became vassals of the horde? I only heard Moldavia becoming vassal of Lithuania, and golden horde losing territories to Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Never heard of Lithuania becoming vassal of the the Khan even for a day. I'll probably gonna have to do some research on it.

[@nickletatel8284]

In short, Lithuania fulfilled the vassal obligations of the captured Russian duchies. Therefore, the khans of the Golden Horde did not resist Lithuania, because it was beneficial to them

[@nickletatel8284]

@AG TaNGrA early 1450s, the administration of the Big Horde was located in the South Russian lands controlled by Lithuania. In Lithuania and the Crimean Khanate, this was justified by the legal succession of the Crimean Khanate from the Golden Horde. There has not been such a thing in the Grand Duchy of Moscow for about 100 years. This is if you do not take tribute.

[@edvinasmilasius1684]

@@nickletatel8284 making tributes for Horde in order keeping some peace with them does not mean being in vassal state. Byzantines were doing so with most of Cuman-Kipchacks, Avars and all other steppe people, but you could not say Eastern Rome empire was a vassal state to i.e. Avar khanate. Inheriting mongol style yarlig issued by Kippchak Khanate (GoldenHorde) to i.e. Metropolitan of Kiev Peter or Alexius means no vassal relations for Lithuania to Horde too it meant only that those tributes required by yarlig will not be paid anymore. It meant to arise all types for very sophisticated relations like rivalries and partnerships with tatars against Moscow principalities and so on.

[@edvinasmilasius1684]

Kings and Generals are always very much inaccurate as it regards early Rus region history, it looks here they do not care to be accurate too.

[@nickletatel8284]

@@edvinasmilasius1684 This is understandable (I did not speak out correctly), but the fact is that in part of the Lithuanian territory (the territory of modern central Ukraine) the khan's administration was located, which collected tribute directly from the local population. Usually tributaries were not allowed to collect tribute to nomads from the local population on their territory. It was something between condonium and tributary. This refers to early 1450s, before this period the role of the yarlyk in the South Russian lands controlled by Lithuania was more significant

[@Tribuneoftheplebs]

I was literally just looking for this very video yesterday! You guys are impressive.

[@TheSturgeonGeneral572]

I feel like you guys are playing through the Age of Empires 3 campaign with the content releases! Great work as always!

[@compatriot852]

We need a more in depth video on Lithuanian history from going from near extinction at the hands of Germanic crusaders to becoming one of the largest countries in Europe

[@alanbrito5239]

"This video has been also dubbed into Spanish using an artificial voice to increase accessibility. You can change the Audio track language in the Settings menu" *Momento basado*

[@3st3st77]

Weird. First KZbin gets rid of fan-made subtitles and now they allow you to let an AI read them out to you. What is even the point?

[@YeenMage]

The literal definition of "Die out not with a bang but with a whimper".

[@frankcruz6913]

Can y’all do a video on the Zanj rebellion And/or the collapse of the oyo empire and rise of the sokoto caliphate in Nigeria? They’re both really interesting stories.

[@zaboomafool1911]

Given all of this why don't Muscovy or at least some of the Rus princes start as tributaries of the Great Horde in EU4? I know it's a game but tributary status wouldn't be that hard for a player to get out of and it would more closely reflect the reality of 1444. I haven't played EU4 in a while so I might have outdated information.

[@kentvesser9484]

So one night the mMngols put Russia in the pocket of their favorite old coat, but the next day their wife gave away their old coat to some charity without checking the pockets and some guy named Ivan found it in the pocket. :)

[@w.l.6258]

Always amazing and interesting videos. thank you.

[@HarrisNMeo]

Amazing video as always K&G! 💗 A correction though, at 12:17 you have put the portrait of Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, a reformer in Indo-Pak for Muslim India in the 19th century as reference, instead of the horde's Syed Ahmed. Cheers

[@ramp597]

Lol

[@mohitsawant956]

I love the Mongol throat singing in the background

[@CrimeanTatarBoy]

Amazing to see Crimean Tatar history on KZbin! Thank you!

[@Toktobay987]

are you crimean tatar?

[@soleil3759]

I view Kings and Generals as my history movies. I like the delivery and appreciate the content.

[@Howsoonisnow2009]

Incredible on so many levels.

[@mikearmstrong8483]

You know how it is. You set down a piece of Asia, you start to do something else, you get distracted, then you're sidetracked on something else, and the next thing you know you've lost Russia and can't find it for at least half an hour. And it's always the last place you look, between China and Finland, right where you put it.

[@fabriziozagonel5720]

In my ignorance i never knew that Russia had such a root with the mongol impire, trully amazing.

[@andrespodra8459]

Some people even argue, that Russia is the direct descendant of Mongol empire. They took over the Mongol warfare tactics and partly their absolutist form of rule.

[@history4723]

@@userwsyz lol Mongols tactics were created by Mongols themselves

[@history4723]

It was most stupid reasoning I have ever heard

[@history4723]

@@userwsyz most Mongols were that time doesn't know how read and write

[@history4723]

@@userwsyz only after Great khan ordered Tatatunga create mongolian script . Most high ranking Mongols learned writing and reading

[@martinpoldma6393]

Thanks!

[@AGS363]

So in the end, russia was freed by....Tamerlane?! Damn, this guy was truly a gale of destruction.

[@fleshtearer4399]

So much, that Tamerlane robbed and destroyed villages close to Moscow and until raised Moscow to the ground during the siege.

[@смотрящийютуб-ж4е]

@@ontheline3077 he entered the territory of Russia, and even managed to burn one city and a couple of villages, but did not go further. There are a lot of assumptions why he did it , but the fact remains that if he could , he would have burned Moscow

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

[@sherlock.holmes.]

12:39 The person in this image is Mukhammad Taraghay Ulughbek, grandson of Timur. He is not Ulugh Mukhammad.

[@huseyincobanoglu531]

Thank you King & Generals Team!

[@MrBatica123]

Have Mongols lost Russia or have Russians liberated themselves?

[@cliffordjensen8725]

@AG TaNGrA Nicely put. The Russian national identity was formed at this time, and is still with us.

[@Blalack77]

This portion of history fascinates me - with the Mongols and different hordes, Tamerlane, how far their lands stretched, the effect they had on culture and genetics, how some of them converted to Islam, etc.. I guess I know some about this period but what knowledge I have would be over Europe - so I guess I'm extra fascinated because I know less about this than other historical subjects - not _nothing_ - I'm pretty good with history - I just know less specifically about this time and place.

[@charlesandrews2360]

For us older American folks, part of that is because when we learned Russian history in school it was mostly about the Soviet Union and a little bit about some of the more famous czars. When Central Asia was part of the Soviet Union it didn't exist. To us they were Russians. In our defense we didn't have Wikipedia or KZbin.

[@cobidbeksin5200]

@@sadiqrahman2961 but the ones who became Muslims have ceased to exists as a people. Only the Buddhist Mongols remain as Mongols.

[@tomassamulevicius8179]

on 9:45 you say that the Horde (under Toqtamysh) made Lithuania a vassal. Could you please provide a source for that? Never heard of this fact before.

[@shaan702]

Peter Jackson wrote about this in “Mongols and the West: 1221-1410”

[@MarioPerez-ms4tq]

This channel is the real deal. History to all humankind.🤟

[@lukred6271]

It's horrifying to see such " proud tough - people" broken , destroyed, hunted , and broken down into nothingness.

[@thereichscollector]

Great interesting video. Thank you!!!

[@kameelelian6044]

I love this channel , I'd love to see videos on these individual people's and nations weapons or tools that are inherently there own . For example Finland and puukkos or the people of Siberia and the yakut knife these could be used not only as a weapon but as tools aswell .

[@matthewmann8969]

With some arm wrestling, arm wars, thumb wrestling, thumb wars, bloody knuckles, and rock paper scissors

[@expandedhistory]

Lol underrated comment

[@CoOpyNetworKOfficial]

12:10 LOL the figure you used for syid ahmed in Golden Horde is actually Sir Syed Ahmed Khan an Indian Who played a role in making of Pakistan 🌝

[@aGr3atD4y]

Great video!

[@tariver1693]

Fun facts: * In Russian chronicles khans of the Golden Horde were called tsars. (Edit: source in comments below) * Golden Horde is a term used by modern historians. In its own documents it was called Ulu Ulus (The Great Ulus)

[@thecandlemaker1329]

It's common practise. Likewise, there was never actually a country called "Kievan Rus". It was really called "Rus Land" by its people.

[@Nautilus04]

In Russia they were called “Han” is pronounced directly which meant Khan or Ataman. Tsar is form the word Caesar, so like a Russian interpretation and pronunciation of it

[@fleshtearer4399]

@@ontheline3077 Not, its a result of the fall of Constantinopol in 1204, which was unbelievable for christians, especially orthodox christians. Traditionaly, in feudal system there were empire in the West and in the East (Western Roman Empire and Eastern Roman Empire, then The Holy Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire). So, after such catastrophy, and furthermore after the invasion of mongols, there were in idea that now in the east a new feudal overlord - a Mongol Khan. So, russian chronicles called them tsars (from russian "Tsar", which is adapted on russian word "Ceaser", which means the Emperor). So, after the liberation from the Mongol Yoke, Ivan the IV proclaimed himself as tsar, the new eastern emperor (and his new feudal rang was recognized by western feudal lords, including the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire), true successor of the eastern romans (in the times of his grandfather Ivan the Third even were the religious theory that because after the destruction of the Byzantin Empire Ivan the Third married on the daughter of a brother of the last byzantin emperor Constantine XI and symbolically took the byzantin eagle as the new state symbol and both states were orthodox christian, so Moscow is the third and last Rome. Russian chronists even wrote that Ivan's grand grand grand...grandfather was an Augustus himself. Funny, but it was important for creation of a new nation's idea after the liberation from mongols and reunification of the Rus). P.C. And yes, Peter the Great didn't proclaimed the empire and himself an emperor, he (more correctly, his Senat) just adapted feudal rang of Tsar on european standart, just like with many other things in Peter's policy of westernization and development of the russian state system.

[@cagracar4316]

"ulus" means nation in turkish. ulu" also turkish and means magnificent.

[@ironheart5830]

I think in Old Kipchak language Ulug Ulus mean Great State or empire 😊

[@francojustthat156]

Always share a great trove of knowledge K&G, for knowledge is Power...Kudos to you and your team of researchers...

[@GIBunz]

that's like saying how the americans lost iraq or how the americans lost afganistan, it was never ours to begin with

[@siddhaarth8843]

this channel has an obsession towards the mongols

[@orton4357]

the difference is afhanis did not come to take over US and make you speak their language.

[@Karim896]

It's really cool that you can watch the video in Spanish too. Didn't know that was possible. Great channel

[@AbdulHadi-ml4xc]

12:16 Shows picture of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan who was key figure in Indian independence. I think there has been a mistake due to similarity in names. Why are you showing Nicea at the start and not Eastern Roman Empire?

[@thomasrinschler6783]

How do you know they didn't look the same?

[@extrovert5176]

Resemblance is uncanny, he is wearing a turk hat as well.

[@blacksheep6174]

@@extrovert5176 That hat was later ottomon invention The Mongols Tatars kipchaks at the time never wore that thing but some muslim politicians from Subcontinent

[@Cipricus]

Tribute and tributary states are medieval elements different from those that - like vassalage - shaped the western Europe, and should be seen as alternative to those. By no means did tribute mean occupation and full integration to an empire or kingdom, on the contrary, being able to pay tribute was a grant of independence, which meant staying able to wage future war. The power of the tributary state varied considerably over time and sometimes in opposite directions (which explains why Russian, Moldavian or Wallachian states could be tributary, then stop paying tribute, but after beating their masters in war start paying tribute again). Tribute had a high diplomatic and political significance too, the result of a balance of power in which both parties could interpret things in their own favor, by both avoiding war and being able to prepare for it - the stronger party saving face in spite of not fully enforcing its control - the weaker party keeping or even increasing its independence, or at least keeping hope.

[@augusthoyt8447]

I thought Kulikovo was a big turning point in the Rus struggle against the Mongols. Once again I’m learning from Kings and Generals.

[@alekshukhevych2644]

Not really Rus, rather Moscowite or predocessor to the Russian Empire.

[@1227-z5w]

Moskowites is nonexistent termin. Moscow citizens never called themselves like this. Letters books and other documents confirm that

[@kestutissamogitian1899]

@@1227-z5w non existing,like Russia until 17 century...

[@kestutissamogitian1899]

@Валерий С you missed the point, i was replying "about non existing terms ",show were in 15 century is written term Russia,and I'm not biased, i respect every oponent,even Moskowians :)

[@kestutissamogitian1899]

@@KIRILL-fl7cp moskovits didn't call themselves ruskije at that time either...

[@VillageTV]

Very informative videos ❤️👍🏾

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

I always wondered how different Russia history would have been had it accepted islam early on as its state religion instead of Orthodox Christianity. The expansionism would have probably be on another level as the Russ and the various Khanates would have likely teamed up more often than fought so much

[@whatifounddowntherabbithol5254]

no vodka, no way

[@jacopoabbruscato9271]

@@ivan200804 Prince Vladimir himself rejected Islam because it forbids drinking. It was not vodka back then, but the principle stands

[@kylonjones5678]

@@jacopoabbruscato9271 what’s so crazy is that god himself never forbade drinking he only forbade being drunk. Ancient Israelite had rich vineyards so they was drinking. Jesus who is god himself turned water to wine and he even drank wine but he wasn’t drunk. I’ve heard that Jesus was a wine drinker he loved wine but of course he never over indulge and became a drunk.

[@vermilion6966]

@@jacopoabbruscato9271 You speak fkn jibberish. Its idiotic. Islam was rejected because of practical reasons like your new allies being too far away from you, having different goals that dont align and ultimately deemed as 'not worth it'. That 'union' with Byzantine held more prospect at the time. Its that simple. Convenience and more possibilities

[@Infinatus25]

Wohoo, new episode!

[@ishaanupreti6438]

12:10 “And Sayyid Ahmed west of the Don River.” Shows photo of the Indian philosopher Syed Ahmed Khan 💀😂

[@delfinangel96]

great videos ! keep going in this way!

[@navinkumarpk86]

Great video. By the way, why did you use a portrait of Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan (with a red fez) from 19th century India at 12:30 to represent the Mongol contender of the same name?

[@themoon3588]

Probably by mistake

[@themoon3588]

They must have gone confused

[@bongomuffin875]

Long awaited video topic

[@Rahmatow]

I hope when next video about rus' history will be uploaded they pay attention to Ivan the first "Kalita", whose biography and his rivalry with Mikhail Of Tver is an interesting topic to tell about

[@bigbitehood1353]

6:50 this is officially the modern equivalent to watching History Channel, video game music and all!

[@haytxa911]

@18:39 there was no "Azerbaijan" at that time while the Ottomans were in power, it was the Aq Qoyunlu followed by the Safavid empire. They never called themselves "Azerbaijan"

[@skippadadippa2412]

New Mongol content while binge watching previous mongol videos 👍

[@krakendragonslayer1909]

I never know when English translates Slavic title "kneg"/"knaz" as "prince", "duke" or "king". It is always a suprise to me ;) There is no consistency nor in modern English neither was in medieval/renaissance Latin.

[@dandyrevisionist7879]

Excellent, thank you.

[@kolsveinnskraevolding]

12:13 I think over here you have the 19th century Indian Muslim educator and political leader Sayid Ahmad Khan, not a Mongol Khaan.

[@mdsabahuddin8251]

LoL 😂😂😂yeah exactly

[@themoon3588]

It is kind of funny 😂😂😂

[@Tango_Alpha_Charlie]

Very informative. Thank you!

[@ronanwaring3408]

Ironic that the mongols conquered russia then a few years later the opposite happend

[@finikorg]

@AG TaNGrA what? The Rus existed before mongols.

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

@@finikorg Depends on when exactly you consider the Mongol coming into existence.

[@okakokakiev787]

@@finikorg Its ukrainians/nationalistic belorussians and their stupid attempts to deconstruct the direct relation between Russia and the Rus.

[@dorjbayar1286]

The most ironic thing is that British lost their land to Germanic English people. Now British people extinct. But we, Mongols, still hanging around though lost much of our land and people to Russia and China.

[@JorgeGarcia-lr3vk]

The only game I can think of that covers this time period is Age of Empires 4, they cover a good chunk of the downfall of the Mongols in Russia and also the initial Mongolian conquest of Russia.

[@Burgermeister1836]

Europa Universalis 4 covers the last parts after the breakup of the Golden Horde. You can play as one of the khanates and reverse the decline, or conquer them all as Russia.

[@revivarase3201]

Can the Kings and Generals make a video of Russian expansion into Siberia

[@-RONNIE]

Thanks for the video

[@michaelcollins966]

you sort of skipped over the actual russian conquest of horde territories at the end. i'd be interested to know why it was the Run who picked off the weak Horde states, rather than China.

[@Alex-wp9oo]

China in its long history has hardly ever invaded other areas, they’ve for the most part been occupied with their own civil wars.

[@lukred6271]

No, he didnt.

[@lukred6271]

No one wants to hear about caucasian narcists picking off Steppe Nomads with guns and bribes.

[@jasonz7788]

Great work Sir thank you

[@biscolataman]

Turco-Mongols aka Kipchak Khanate