What is the Truth about Tartaria

[@KingsandGenerals]

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[@subashraj7219]

Please make battle videos about Mongol invasions of Korea and java.

[@ltcinsane]

@@atesyabgu0844 Imperial Russia: "... NO! We'll take what land we want." XD

[@buddhidev7877]

If you read Chinese historical records, you will know what is Tatar, especially before the Emperor Qin Shi Huang.

[@direpenguin712]

How comes everything devolves into "European men bad" argument in YT history channels.

[@ninvive.]

Lol, спасибо (:

[@sankarchaya]

When you mentioned how people today often talk about "Africa" to refer to the continent as a whole, it made me think of how in 300 years there will be a conspiracy theory about how Africa was one big country based on how people talk about it on social media

[@TheBayzent]

In 300 years? Right now you have (American) Black Nationalists doing exactly that and saying that Whites destroyed the culture and split the continent...incidentally, none of these gentlemen have been to Africa or know Africans or seem able to grasp the fact that a lot of North Africa is not and has never been populated by high melanin people but semitic peoples.

[@KateeAngel]

@@TheBayzent some of them even claim civilizations outside Africa like Olmecs, which in reality were Amerindians

[@pectenmaximus231]

@@TheBayzent I mean, the scramble for Africa (and the century following) did f**k a lot of stuff up in Africa.

[@shangrilainxanadu]

Both the insane "Kangz" and the less insane semi-respectable variants of Afro-centrism already essentially rely on this argument. No point in talking about Kangz, but the semi-respectable variant of the Black Egypt theory goes: Proto-Egyptians migrated North to the Nile from the drying of the Sahara, hence ancient Egyptians were originally a purely African people, hence Ancient Egyptians were black. The first two points are true, but the third only follows in the minds of Black Egypt theorists because their minds insist on "Africa" or "African" having meaning beyond geographical.

[@bluebird3281]

@@pectenmaximus231 An absolute fact but no excuse for sword rattling nationalists' actions nowadays.

[@ezrapark9992]

2021: Bro all Asians are not Chinese 1321: Bro all Asians are not Tartars

[@thecandlemaker1329]

It works different in America. Asians you like: Japanese. Asians you don't like: Chinese.

[@Kabaselefh]

China was not part of Tartaria, the reason why the wall was built to separate and fend off attacks from Tartaria

[@chrisjacks2599]

this video, the whole channel is a shill channel. Greater Tartaria was real, and America was part of it. Its in the ol old maps, they dont lie.

[@professional.commentator]

@@thecandlemaker1329 1943 disagrees.

[@jackedatanyage341]

I could see how somebody would be confused that hasn't really looked into the subject at all and only listened to this information. What you fail to mention is that Genghis Khan was not among all like the mongols that we know today which looked Chinese he had red hair and green eyes and his wife was a blonde there are paintings of them that can prove this. I suppose you deserve whatever belief system you have because that's what you most studied or at least are open to.

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

The fact that some people even say that 'Russia didn't exist in 1850, Tartary did' is sort of insulting to me, mostly because i'm Polish, and if you know History, you know that Poland has had many revolts against the RE, specifically the November and January Uprisings of 1830-1831 and 1863-1864, and to say such events didn't happen, and that there was no Russian state that Poles, Lithuanians, etc, rebelled against, is really insulting, and one of the few things i'd be offended by. Some people really think they're right just because, smh

[@KingsandGenerals]

Ya, this is a very North American conspiracy theory. You would get very weird looks if you uttered that in Eastern and Central Europe..

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

@@KingsandGenerals I swear, what is it with Americans always having to inject themselves into everything, yeah, i can get some things, but like, my brother/sister in christ, i am living proof that a 'great tartary state wiped out by a mud flood' is a lie. Hell, the thing about 'omg guys look, these houses are sunken into the ground, tartary real' can be disproven by the fact that, my city has a bunch of buildings with things that look like sunken windows, the thing is, those aren't windows. A lot of buildings in Russia, and occupied Poland too, they didn't have any electricity, so natural sunlight was the only way to light up a basement, lower level room, etc.

[@Ru_777_]

​@ukaszwalczak1154 You're right man. I'm American, this theory was brought to me, I'm irritated because the defense is "History is written by the victors" Why on Earth, if The Tartarayata Empire was real, wouldn't we boast about its fall?

[@carolannmcelroy5256]

You should share your insight for those of Us thats not so Shallow

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

@@carolannmcelroy5256 And, what are you even trying to say??

[@elbentos7803]

As a matter of joke, I would add that if UK had been at war 200 years ago with the mighty Empire of Tartary, Napoleonic France would have actually allied with Tartary.

[@elbentos7803]

... as well as every self-respecting french leader !

[@evan_brightfield]

lol Napoleon the freemason?

[@chrisb4003]

@@elbentos7803 you wrote that in english

[@muzammilibrahim5011]

@@evan_brightfield Napoleon was not a freemason. He tried to co-opt the masons and filled their top post with his relatives though.

[@tariver1693]

Actually they claim that Napoleon was ally of Britain and Russia against Tartaria. The battle of Borodino, for example, was fought between Russian and French troops on one side and Tartaria on the other.

[@joshualieberman1059]

The myth is hugely popular in Russia among some conspiracy theorists something like Great Tartaria was originally Slavic and was in war with what is now China some 7900 years ago. The Great Wall was constructed by the “Slavs”. Those “Slavs” had superior technologies like space travel but were destroyed by Napoleon who was an ally of the Russian Czar so basically Moscow and St.Petersburg were 2 separate states back then. Russian history were then rewritten so only those conspiracy theorists know “the real truth” .

[@TheGetout04]

The rabbit hole is immense

[@sergpodolnii3962]

I heard about this theory about 10 years ago, and it smelled "rotten to the core". It has protruding "us vs them" component and how "great" we used to be. Unfortunately, several years later Russia found a new "enemies" by violating borders of Georgia and Ukraine..

[@comradekapibarchik7997]

To be honest, as a Russian, it is the first time I hear this myth, and I have spent a lot time in internet. Even the Hyperborea myth seems to be more “popular”

[@TheBard1999]

Lol same in Poland. Here it's called "Great Lechia" or something like that and it was supposed to be a proto-polish state that controlled ALL mainland Europe that wasn't part of the Roman Empire. XD

[@jrodriguez1374]

Lmao look how easily the conspiracy lunatics come out of the woodwork

[@TomDeLaCruz]

This video is sponsored by the Freemasons

[@LordCannon]

Underrated comment

[@wurzelbert84wucher5]

If there was a conspiracy like it, the big channels would be on board with it, that's why these videos are so ironic ;D

[@audrisampson]

I'm pretty sure if Britian eliminated a massive Empire taking up most of Asia they wouldn't have kept quiet on it.

[@berry1666]

The blood French would have made such the world knew, heck they’d have fought with the tartars

[@spongebobsucks12]

In what reality do the French and British work together without America?

[@berry1666]

@@spongebobsucks12 I meant French in unison with tartars against Britain

[@thecandlemaker1329]

@@berry1666 They have fought with tatars, namely in Napoleonic Wars. As a part of Russian occupational forces, some tatars were stationed in Paris and imparted their cuisine to the French. That's how you got all those food items attributed to "tartars".

[@TomDeLaCruz]

Have you never heard of the Freemasons

[@Liquidsback]

Everyone knows that Big Toothpaste erased Greater Tataria.

[@justincronkright5025]

It had to be 'Arm & Hammer' with how much glistening, sprinkled, grainy particulates of the cool ice and snow are found East of Urals, no?

[@davidwoods7408]

Don't say that on social media! You will have started another conspiracy theory! lol

[@BeBopScraBoo]

tell me you drink fluoridated water without telling me you drink fluoridated water.

[@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude]

Until the great empire known as GINGAVITAS came.

[@musaka2022]

hahha awesome

[@jakobs.family.computer]

You start off by looking for a nice tartar sauce recipe and next thing you know you're done rabbit hole

[@mikuspalmis]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[@aussiegal1555]

😆

[@OldDeanKenobi]

😂😂😂

[@theducknamednewepicla9507]

😂

[@fermentedpear2704]

tarter sauce is simple: mayo, relish, mayo, dill weed. salt pepper, onion minced boom. oops lemon juice

[@LucasDimoveo]

I have literally never heard of this. It's amazing how many things we don't know, even in our hyper specific areas of interest

[@CloroxBleachCompany]

The idea of “Tartaria” has been trending among white supremacist conspiracy theorists, who are DESPERATE to conjure up a common ancestral civilization, in order to justify land claims and solve internal strife. To understand why, look into real world examples happening right now of people wanting to fill a cultural void in order to justify continued control-such as the Mormons, who are currently attempting to usurp as the founders of the Maya civilization in order to steal land from the local natives (Look up Utah-born Mormon/Mayan archaeologist Richard Hansen’s interview with Vice for more). While Europeans once collectively revered the Roman Empire as their common ancestral civilization-a schism happened when the radicalized descendants of northern Barbarians and Vikings resented being seen as the catalyst to the empire’s downfall. The idea of Tartaria fixes that by uniting both factions under a common ancestral civilization.

[@LucasDimoveo]

@@CloroxBleachCompany I don't understand why people can't focus on building a better future for all of us. Sheesh 🙄 Thanks for the explanation

[@memofromessex]

Same, I had no idea. Weird

[@N0__Name__]

@@CloroxBleachCompany but tartar people aint even white… they r asians

[@jamesdavis2448]

@@CloroxBleachCompany lol yeah spit that line npc spit that sheit

[@albertgreene313]

This myth is new to me, but by the gods, between this, all the rest, and the “rome didn’t exist” thing… I’m so fucking exhausted

[@tryingmybest9819]

You think this is nuts? Take a quick look at people's evidence for the mud flood. Makes anti-vaxxers sound sane

[@Sparticulous]

I never heard of any of these. Weird. Uneducated people are so easily fooled

[@Darthwgamer]

@@tryingmybest9819 You mean the people that choose to stay away from vaccines all together? Or the people that refuse to take.the covid vaccine?

[@tryingmybest9819]

@@Darthwgamer unless it's for medical reasons, both.

[@Darthwgamer]

@@tryingmybest9819 One just chooses to not take this vaccine, the other one well idk what's wrong with them Edit: auto correct

[@i.amanton]

They are changing history right now.

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

Are you actually defending Tartary? 😂

[@zacharytarnow7290]

Who’s “they” 😂

[@djocharablaikan8601]

@@zacharytarnow7290 jews

[@galmax2000]

like they did to mona lisa which never smiled she always had cold smirk that u couldnt even call a smile, and now, she does have one O_O

[@galmax2000]

@@zacharytarnow7290 u think its funny and shit.. wait soon the world as you know will change 180 degrees to the point u will beg conspiracy theorists to give you more info.

[@tcb0044]

It's not hard to envision the Bolsheviks wanting to twist and rewrite history...

[@Isylon]

Hungarian historiography refers to the Mongolian invasion of the country in 1241-42 as "Tatárjárás" which roughly means the "Ravaging of Tartars"

[@yetagain9736]

@@trikebeatstrexnodiff the name "Mongol" until the 17th-18th centuries meant belonging to a political community, and was not the ethnic name. While “the name "Tatars" was “the name of the native nation of Genghis Khan …” , “… Genghis Khan and his people did not speak the language, which we now call the "Mongolian…" (Russian academic-orientalist V.P.Vasiliev, 19th century).

[@Brandonhayhew]

@@trikebeatstrexnodiff Tatars were more like Turkic then mongolic. History is weird and full of contractions

[@bobwilson7684]

@@ryanparker4996 well the oldest illustrated bible known is in ethipoia, and jesus and mary and joseph apear as black....what do we make out of the debunkings....

[@munkh-ochirmunkhnaran8992]

@@Brandonhayhew not really turks are totally different

[@Jon-pw2ik]

Ohhh so that's how we got Tartar sauce

[@Brind-amour]

You are wrong about Tartaria, it did exist, where do you think Tartar sauce comes from? Eh?

[@ajrobbins368]

I appreciate the mention of Siber becoming "Siberia" and implying vast swaths of subarctic north Eurasia.

[@Liquidsback]

Oh Greater Tartaria doesn't exist? Next you will be telling me that Lemuria, home to our great Pro simian Humanoid overlords don't exist?

[@nothing2see315]

Was that the kingdom of testicles?

[@nothing2see315]

Or was that the Geigh Kingdom?

[@yeetman4953]

@Poli Dissent ok you are a special nutcase

[@dbnzt]

@@nothing2see315 from the land of deez nuts

[@noahsmith9025]

The ancient lumerians "supposedly" live in a city underneath Mt. Shasta in Northern California. Wild ass shit lol

[@allninelivez7631]

I think Africa is a victim of this as well. Rarely does anyone say an actual African country, it’s always Africa. With the exception of Egypt.

[@Alex-eo9of]

with the exceptions of Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa

[@jeancena3556]

@@Alex-eo9ofEgypt Nigeria South Africa Madagascar

[@Elite_Footballer777]

Tunisia, Morocco, Eritrea

[@cvilleftw]

Maybe in your circle…🙄

[@rhs5683]

@@rosshugecaulk What is an Angola? Isn't Somalia this pirate port in the Bahamas?

[@markus8553]

In my Estonian language we call buckwheat "tatar" and in finnish "tattari". which originates from central-asia around 10th-13th century.

[@romanvonungern-sternberg1322]

Ironic, how its named after a non-sedentary society.

[@jasondaveries9716]

Ooh like cream of Tatar in english!

[@witchcannabitch]

It's funny because my Mother has Tartarian roots and my name means Elder tree in estonian 😂

[@Dan-sw8tg]

@@temptemp4174 lmao yess basically. blonde mongols

[@sectorgovernor]

Is it the tartármártás in Hungarian?

[@PASTRAMIKick]

lol years ago my Mexican grandma told me something about "Great Tartaria", I read and watch a lot about history and had never heard about a "great tartar" empire, so that conversation didn't go very far. It's just until now that I know what she was talking about.

[@PASTRAMIKick]

@@Amun_Ka_Tut_Tehuti she believes in almost all of the conspiracy theories, the more reasonable ones and the completely bonkers ones as well. She got it all from Facebook, since they don't really moderate content in other languages besides English it's even more of a cesspool outside the Anglo world.

[@robertwashington2161]

She knew because Mexicans are descendants of Mongols...

[@ar_xiv]

@@PASTRAMIKicknot the answer ancient avatar man was looking for probably lol

[@charles1964]

The Mud Flood @3:55 is from those who never did a days work, so they're ignorant that these "Sunken Bldg's" once sat inside a perimeter curtain wall. Retaining walls were started with trenches forming a square. Inside the say 100ft Sq. the ground was excavated down several stories. Footings for the foundations were then laid, let's say 80ft Sq. so when this building rose it had a ten foot space all around it to let light and ventilation reach the lower levels. Once electricity became commonplace the lower levels openings were walled up and the air shaft back filled. They do basically the same thing today with modern skyscraper construction. But It's sooo much better to try and look "Smart" on a TicToc than take 10 minutes of research and learn something....

[@HaHaroni]

Nice try.

[@charles1964]

@@HaHaroni I guess you never lived in a real city? Where do you think the elevators that pop up through the sidewalk come from? Next thing your lot will be saying is the small doors they used for Ice delivery is proof of Dwarves....

[@HaHaroni]

@@charles1964 Your theories don't hold the least amount of water. Some places have no mud flood. Some places have two or three stories with external doors and windows in the bottom floor. These doors and windows are facing mud, not cleared out spaces. You're really addressing something you have no concept of.

[@charles1964]

@@HaHaroni Actually I do have a little more than a concept, having actually worked in constructing hi-rises. It's people like you that are defending and propagating a fairy tail theory. I explained more than once why the lower floors had doors and windows, it's not an opinion, it's a recorded fact. FFS have you ever been to Manhattan? Like I said, don't take my word for it, take ten minutes and research 19th century construction projects during The Industrial Revolution. Check out the Caissons used to construct the Towers for the Brooklyn Bridge in the 1880's, all that work was dug mostly by hand by Irish Immigrants getting paid Pennies a day.....

[@-oiiio-3993]

Bingo.

[@anlashock]

A 19 century portuguese writer refers to the Wall of China as the Tartar Wall.

[@Intranetusa]

Yeh. Besides the use of the word of Tartary as a general region like "Asia" being used to describe anything east of Greece, it also sometimes lumped together many different steppe peoples. Some people mistakenly thought the Qing Dynasty was a part of a greater Tartary culture too because the Qing was ruled by Manchu people from the steppe.

[@NONEOFYOURBIZ69]

Tatars are what Europeans at some point we're exposed to (Crimean/Hungary/Bulgaria)...

[@teovu5557]

@@Intranetusa manchu/jurchens were not a "steppe" people nor nomadic. They were a seditary people who farmed and hunted in the forested region north east of the Mongols and Turks. The Europeans lumped them in with Tatars because the manchu were also a "horse Archer" society and linguitsically related to the steppe peoples.

[@Intranetusa]

​@@teovu5557 Manchus are at least a partially steppe people because the Eurasian steppes extends significantly into Manchuria. They just aren't a nomadic people (and I never claimed they were). They are a non-nomadic, partially steppe people that widely used horse archers thanks to the fact that many of them lived on the steppes and had access to good steppe-pastureland to maintain large numbers of horses.

[@teovu5557]

@@Intranetusa Manchu home land is east of the steppe they lived in eastern manchuria and russian far east. They are like other tungusic people who are forest dwellers who hunt, fish and farm Example- I bet you cant link a single source in academia that says they are a "steppe" people or live in the steppe. Check mate

[@Xenofer1]

Funnily enough. In my history classes when we were learning about Mongols , their names were interchangeable and often changed with tatars. And i remember distinctly whenever i was talking about mongols with my grandmother she only called them tatars :)

[@tomasr.]

In Czech, the word "tatar" is a synonym for a stupid or confused person 😀

[@svenerikmoeller8809]

Yeah the Germans were called the Huns which are the same blood group as the tartar and Mongols Funny thing this all originated from the same country whose economy and culture are disappearing due more to beliefs then facts Love seeing my old British school mates who due to my race loved calling me the N word. Well my fotze friends your country abandoned the EU with Germany at its head and now paying the price So sucked in arshlochsand reap what you have sown

[@svenerikmoeller8809]

Sorry guys just a small uprising of German nationalism! I know naughty naughty

[@Xenofer1]

@@svenerikmoeller8809 What? I don't really understand this reply , also germans were goths not huns?

[@svenerikmoeller8809]

@@Xenofer1 The British through WW1 called the Germans the Huns which are the same racial group of the TarTars and Mongols Goths Saxons Vandals Lombard’s and Angles are of Germanic stock. The true irony is that the Angles and the Saxons ( which are my ancestors) invaded post Roman Britain and formed the language and people known today as the British even though their original stock bloodline comes from the very people they called the Huns It’s like referring the Japanese are the same as Pygmy Congolese it make no sense Mind you the Huns did rampage across Europe and my group did it not so long ago either so there’s that too

[@amordedios89]

I was born in the capital of Tatarstan, it's called Kazan and today it's an autonomic state of Russia. Moreover, it is regarded as the third capital of Russia, after Moscow and Saint Petersburg. It is also one of the fastest growing cities in Eurasia, most people haven't heard about. But what's probably more important, is that this is one of only few places in the world, where Muslims and Christians live together in peace (mostly). Please look it up, if you want to learn about Tatarian history, first. Of course there are also Crimean and Turkish Tatars, however they do not have a place to call "their own". The Tatar language has many similarities with the Turkish language, but is written in a special type of Kyrillic letters in Tatarstan.

[@kmaher1424]

Interesting Real History.

[@barkingbandicoot]

So, does Tartarstan/Kazan have "Tartarian" architecture?

[@ЮрийЛукин-х7о]

Тартария никаким боком не относится к татарскому народу

[@amirloveall]

​@@ЮрийЛукин-х7оно в видео говорилось и тюркские народы и, в частности, татар, так что он в тему

[@amirloveall]

​@@barkingbandicootwhat did you mean?

[@joshualieberman1059]

Great Tartaria we’re found by our Slavic ancestors like Perun that descended in their spaceships and gave us three tripes tracksuits and the superior ability to squat and not giving a f. about anything!

[@marcdigiambattista751]

You can actually determine the exact amount of Tartarian Space Comrade DNA in an individual modern Slavic person, by measuring how low they can squat in a tracksuit whilst still keeping their feet flat on the ground. It's a real science.

[@ayyylmao5038]

Based Slav

[@wilfthebig7910]

No, the truth is that the Slavic created this empire by the goddess tara

[@JkDibine]

slavs were either present in the caucus mountains from being kicked out and exiled by the Hebrew and Blackamoors Moors, or employees of the Moorish aristocratics and monarchs around Europe overtime... It was King Solomon in the 900s BC who built Tartaria... Even the great wall were built by Afro Asiatics

[@nicholaspalmer892]

I just went from watching a video debunking a Tik Toker’s belief that the Roman Empire didn’t exist and I’m glad to continue watching people explain conspiracy theories are false

[@alexanderrahl7034]

Tik tok is owned by China, and over here its "algorithm" is pushing inane crap on our kids, meanwhile in chins its pushing math, science and fitness onto theirs. I stay away, from tik tok lol

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

@@alexanderrahl7034 tiktok is a braindrain, stay away from it.

[@harunomer3651]

Ah, good old Metatron begin one of few true bastion of history on youtube.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

I see you are a man of science and facts as well.

[@phoenixlegend2921]

@@harunomer3651 ah metatron , he must have increadible skill not to loose his sanity over conspiracy theories like this

[@notatheory4488]

My Mom used to say something as a kid…” who do you think ya are, the prince of Tartar?” It was a saying from when her dad was a kid

[@taurus6392]

tartar in slang means "a person of irritable or violent temper"

[@taurus6392]

also did you even fucking watch the video? it could mean "prince of asia" or something, which i imagine would mean that you're entitled, which matches up with the slang definition

[@TopNotchTrades1]

​@@taurus6392yea cause being the prince of someone with a bad temper makes sense

[@taurus6392]

@@TopNotchTrades1 Did you even read my second comment? Tartar ALSO means a region of asia, so saying "the prince of tartar" would be different to calling you a tartar, Prince of Tartar meaning "Prince of Asia" which i imagine would mean that person is entitled, which then lines up with the slang definition "a person of irritable or violent temper"

[@taurus6392]

@@TopNotchTrades1 What probably happened was "Prince of Tartar" became an insult for an entitled person, then "Tartar" became the shortened version, and was used as a slang term

[@aaronmarks9366]

Apparently there are several etymologies of "Tartar/tartar" in English: Lower-case "tartar": From Old French tartre, from Medieval Latin tartarum, from Byzantine Greek τάρταρον (tártaron), said to be from Arabic دُرْدِيّ‎ (durdiyy), though it is already found in Pelagonius’s Ars veterinaria 46 in the adjective tartarālis, if the reading is correct. "1 - A red compound deposited during wine making; mostly potassium hydrogen tartrate - a source of cream of tartar." "2 - A hard yellow deposit on the teeth." Upper-case "Tartar": From Old French Tartaire, from Medieval Latin Tartarus (“Tartar, Mongol”), from Old Turkic [script needed] (Tatar), spelling influenced by Latin Tartarus (“Hell (in Greek mythology)”), from Ancient Greek Τάρταρος (Tártaros). "1 - Alternative spelling of Tatar" "2 - A member of the various tribes and their descendants of Tartary, such as Turks, Mongols and Manchus." For "Tatar": "A person belonging to one of several Turkic, Tatar-speaking ethnic groups in Eastern Europe, Russia and Central Asia." "Tatar became a name for populations of the former Golden Horde in Europe, such as those of the former Kazan, Crimean, Astrakhan, Qasim and Siberian Khanates. The form Tartar has its origins in either Latin or French, coming to Western European languages from Turkish and the Persian language (tātār, "mounted messenger"). From the beginning, the extra r was present in the Western forms and according to the Oxford English Dictionary this was most likely due to an association with Tartarus. The Persian word is first recorded in the 13th century in reference to the hordes of Genghis Khan and is of unknown origin, according to OED "said to be" ultimately from tata. The Arabic word for Tatars is تتار. Tatars themselves wrote their name as تاتار‎ or طاطار‎. Tatar is usually used to refer to the people, but Tartar has since come to refer to derived terms such as tartar sauce, steak tartare and the Tartar missile. All Turkic peoples living within the Russian Empire were named Tatar (as a Russian exonym). Some of these populations still use Tatar as a self-designation, others do not."

[@thomasmacginnes100]

in general tartar was rare/raw somewhat unknown unfamiliar and easily alienated !... by and with purpose by those whom capable of such alienation and underhanded conquests tho’ small in number.

[@arvendekoh2266]

Thank you for this. I'm hunting a wabbit... so I read this whole thing 😊

[@KateeAngel]

Yup, seems that since Fomenko's nonsense was translated into English, he acquired more fans all over the world. And now Tartaria and other conspiracies are spreading. I hoped it would not happen... But we live not in the best reality

[@KateeAngel]

@@ontheline3077 yup, they even opened "museum" in Yaroslavl 😑

[@BoxStudioExecutive]

Weird that I just heard about fonenko’s nonsense last night and this morning this video pops out.

[@TheBayzent]

What is it with Russians and conspiracy theories? It's the Protocols of the Elders of Zion every ten years with these people.

[@KateeAngel]

@@TheBayzent lol, what? Look at yourselves. Westerners invented or popularized many more conspiracies even recently.

[@evan_brightfield]

lol yes keep believing jesuit history

[@tylergames1277]

I decided to watch this, despite its 666k views and my better judgement. And then opened up a fortune cookie that I had on the table, to find no fortune. I can't decide how I feel about all this. Its just happening so fast....

[@RosariWilliams-nf5eu]

Well, it speaks volumes for YOU

[@RCSVirginia]

I have always thought of the term Tartary as being a name used to designate the lands that were ruled by the various khanates that arose after the Mongol Empire splintered. For me, it is just a name that was given to a place and really no big deal.

[@nataliekennedy4646]

There are groups of tartar people still alive today that live in Siberia and on the steppe as he was saying in the video because there a tribe and even and ethnic group

[@Kursun28]

@@nataliekennedy4646 some tatars live in the Ukraine crime area today too the ottoman was allied with the crimetatars

[@timl9724]

@@nataliekennedy4646 as it was mentioned, originally the ethnic name of the peoples governed by the Mongol polity was that of Tartar, but over time the eastern portion of that polity began to identify ethnically as Mongol, while those in the western portions continued as Tartars. Eventually in the east, Mongols and Tartars somehow became separate. So it's a little more complicated than you described.

[@RCSVirginia]

@@nataliekennedy4646 I would assume that these people are either descended from those original tribes or adopted the name of those tribes through their association with the Mongol Empire. 'Tis likely that the Tatars in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Poland are an amalgam of these groups with Turkic peoples and Mongols.

[@RCSVirginia]

@@Kursun28 One interesting thing about the Crimean Tatars is that through their conquest of Crimea with its forced conversions to Islam and taking of non-Tatar women as concubines, the Tatars there absorbed Cumans, Pontic Greeks, Slavs, Italians and Visigoths who already lived there. So, even though they came about from invaders that came into Crimea, the genetic roots of the Crimean Tatars stretch far back into the history of that peninsula.

[@doubledouble4g379]

Wow, wish I could say this was the most bizzare conspiracy theory I've ever heard, but it does make my top 5, knocking-down the one about the British Royals secretly being vampires...

[@plasmaViceroy]

Which is ridiculous because they are obviously reptilians.

[@jasondaveries9716]

Honestly that one sounds more plausible lol

[@kellyross4801]

But it's tRuE !!!! 😯 I actually came to post this, but am relieved to see somebody else already spoke the tRuTh. /Sarcasm 😜

[@goabparty9574]

Most conspiracy theory debunks put the theory far away from what the actual argument is. There was a lot of history rewritten by the bolsheviks to destroy peoples connections to other authorities. They needed to bend the knee to the Soviet Unions new society. And we all know who the bolsheviks were.

[@doubledouble4g379]

@@comradekenobi6908 Believe it or not, Epstein DID enter into the original conspiracy - his network was apparently how they aquired their 'meals.' The guy honestly made me question if there's LSD in our drinking water XD

[@mahtoosacks]

A tiktok commenter brought me here, and im glad that you put this up. Told me to research tartaria and the muflood, like i was supposed to know what that meant. These people just dont stop

[@TheManFromWaco]

In this Information Age, it’s pretty crazy to think how it was once possible for even well-informed people to simply not know what was happening in a huge geographical region for over 100 years. “Well, our last update on China was from the 13th Century, but that Kublai Kahn seemed to have things under control, so I’m sure we’ll meet his descendants when we get there.”

[@matthewvanderkooy8347]

Never even thought about this thats crazy.

[@peteroderic33]

Can Kings and Generals do a documentary on Prester John the legendary Christian monarch of the East? Much Thanks.

[@yugitrump435]

I love that story lol

[@elbentos7803]

It's a wild myth, but at least it is a historical myth, not some trendy internet madness.

[@aminrodriguez4707]

Owyeah, I am fascinated by that so callled historical figure that was supposed tocome to the aid of christians against muslims.

[@domapusic]

the legend of Prester John was actually featured on this channel in the series on Ottoman- Portuguese wars.

[@tubarao1143]

Very briefly. Portugal was trying to find the mythic kingdom in order to attack the ottomans in 2 fronts

[@waynebow-gu7wr]

One of the ' so called Tartarian buildings' in the 1893 Chicago World Fair, was built solidly, would have taken more than 2 years to build, and still stands today.

[@max-mtg]

exactly

[@chrisadams9346]

😂 ok smarty no one could trick you

[@timpalmer0432]

Yeah, I didn't hear any condescending retorts about that bit, which is actuallywhat I'minterested in. Gotta put it in a nice, neat package. This is the problem with skeptics. They're so condescending that they don't see what they don't see.

[@pivotstickman]

@@timpalmer0432 💯

[@marcobelli6856]

Bro really I thought you were claimining the ancient native american buildings than it’s dumb but believable. But no way you think the European style american buildings were already there before Europeans arrived 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they copied it from the ones that were already in Europe. And we still do the world fairs in 2015 it was in Milan in Italy I visited it and now Most of the buildings that were temporary built for the expo 2015 Are abandoned so I wouldn’t be surprised if 100 years from now they are rotten or Tore down to Build something Else. Same for all the old world fairs. You know the Eiffelf Tower was built for a world fair in Paris and than Left there? But originally it was meant to be temporary. Also I am honored that you Like italian style architecture so much that you have to make up a mythological world Spanning Empire ti explain it when simply the europeans colonizers copied the European Styles and built all of America in that style. It’s Not Even a secret that the White House is built with Neoclassical style to remind of ancient Roman Republic doesn’t mean the Romans secretly discovered America built the white house and were canceled from history 🤣🤣🤣

[@lmccampbell]

You should do one addressing the afro centrist nonsense saying that all of European civilization was built by black people and that a few hundred years ago albino turks took over and tried rewriting history.

[@Jthe5th]

"Utilizing sources from any period always requires understanding their contexts and reasons why they were made, a level of nuance that the internet unfortunately is not always capable of reaching."

[@iggytt]

I am a descendent of Tartars, who happened to be from Tartaria until communist banished them to Siberia. Mongols warred with Tartars, who escaped west. Eventually some of them were incorporated into the Mongol empire. Since they were already in the West, they were used as tax collectors for the Mongols. They were much more caucasian looking than depicted in media fyi. Also, Tartaria was a specific republic pre revolution.

[@katshi2138]

Tartary was merged with Rus pre-Peter the great. What’s the connection to communism? 😂

[@jeffhebblethwaite8221]

perhaps Caucasians are Tatarians. The origin of both seems to be misplaced

[@michaelthomas5433]

Apparently on Tik Tok some ppl think ancient Rome was completely made up and never existed. Compared to that White Kathy and Tartary seem downright reasonable.

[@carlosjavierpalacios6194]

every day we stray farther from god...

[@VictorbrineSC]

The term "Tatar" or "Tartar" has stayed pretty strong in our minds to this day. Perhaps my favorite case of using the term is in a fantasy setting, such as in Phillip Pullman's "His Dark Materials": Lyra's world is pretty much ours but history changed in quite some ways, and in that world this "Tartary" does exist, located in what we would call in our own universe "North European Russia". In the books it's mentioned many fear the Tartars who raid coasts and, much like the protagonists, want to go North to plunder more wealth (such as the "Kingdom of Svalbard").

[@dylanr9334]

truths only allowed in fiction section

[@chelababy5047]

I’ve only heard it on that movie bringing down the house when Steven Martin says “there is no sign regarding dogs which means there is no policy against dogs! now what you need to do bring me some chicken Tartar for Mr. Shakespeare ON THE HOUSE!” 😂

[@jaredb9523]

I love that series... I can't read so can u spoil the ending for me?! I can read KZbin...

[@R463R]

I seriously could not remember where I had come across this before. It’s been bugging the Hell out of me. One of my all time favorite book series.

[@jrushing1972]

Didn't the "tartars" guard the facility in the north where they were experimenting on the kids? At least in the tv version..

[@user-or9cj3vk6t]

We need more government funded channels like this

[@nenenindonu]

Considering the region of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, The balance of power mainly switched from a Turkic people to another Turkic people... in the following order ; Huns, Avars, Bulgars, Khazars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Tatars

[@Riftrender]

Poor Scythians.

[@pompacitokmakci]

🙃

[@YaverMemolibaba]

@@Riftrender Scythians mixed into all those turkic groups, that later dominated the steppes, especially the Huns. Thats why the Huns or other asian tribes, are not as "asiatic" as chinese, koreans and mongols. They mixed with indo-europeans long ago, and is Euroasians today.

[@Raidon8537]

@@YaverMemolibaba yeah.

[@YaverMemolibaba]

@@raclark2730 cry me a river, they are as white as turks:)

[@Shroud83]

Mh... like the Greeks called all Non-greeks "babblers" e.g. babarians. I think people just don't give too much thought to linguistics and just make assumptions and present superficial "evidence" without going deeper into it. For example I came across the theory that the vulcano "Anak Krakatau" in Indonesia is somehow connected to the word Anunaki (A race out of Sumerian mythology). That was so baffling because I knew that "Anak" simply means "child" in Bahasa Indonesia: "The child of Krakatau". But the author was adamant about his "finding" and would not let go of this supposed connection. Usually I am not quick to rule out that there is a certain amount of occult knowledge out there which we haven't found or is being actively kept secret. But if there is so little to support a theory and more to contradict it, then it is hard to be convinced. Anyway, thank you for this video! I had heard of "Greater Tartary" but did not know it was considered a "conspiracy theory" in certain circles. I thought it was more like something akin to King Arthur's Empire or the kingdom of Prester John: A mythical land with some connections to reality.

[@Sam_Guevenne]

It's what happens when you are looking for facts to fit your theory instead of a theory to fit the facts.

[@lukebarlow5169]

This video actually doesn’t explain the tartaria conspiracy or the mudflooding or the bogus world fairs in the early 1900s at all.

[@theresgottabeagermanwordfo903]

Kings And Generals: "Other Version has the same Process but instead sticks the Blame on History's favorite Scapegoat" "There's no such thing as a Favorite Scapegoa-" Kings and Generals: The Jews "Okay nevermind"

[@blkgardner]

The term "Great" in "Great Tartary" simply means distant, in distinction from Lesser or Little Tartary. A similar usage occurs for Lesser and Greater Poland, Old Great Bulgaria, and Asia Minor. Great Tatary is contrasted with lesser Tatary, which referred to the steppes near the black sea. Often, but not always, the 'Greater' territory is larger, but only because the area is less well defined into smaller subunits. Great Tartary basically means "distant Tartary."

[@simonh6371]

@@therealunclevanya Indeed, in other languages like Spanish and French the words for Britain and Brittany are the same.

[@ibanlimited2020]

Quit pathetic when I hear people use the term Asia minor, referring to North East Africa, where you have Israel, Palestine, Yemen and other countries around the region, simply by Europeans creating a cannel to detached it from the larger continent of Africa. Same people tell you Egypt is not in Africa... Lol One day they will tell you Michael Jackson was a European, and Mandela was Dutch...lol

[@Jigglejagglewagglegigglewiggle]

tartar reminds me of the sauce lol

[@Jigglejagglewagglegigglewiggle]

@@Flat_Earth_Sophia no shit

[@Jigglejagglewagglegigglewiggle]

@@Flat_Earth_Sophia Listen Lucy how ignorant if I know what tartarsauce is and where it comes from +the name? lol or else I won't reply with "no shit". Typical betweter reaction

[@Qranz369]

The Europeans Calling a big Part of Asia "Tartaria" is Like the Romans calling a big Part of Europe Germania.

[@ancientsitesgirl]

Finally, we will watch a solid historical video on this topic! No conspiracy theories about Siberian pyramids and prehistoric nuclear shelters!✌🥰

[@Ian-yf7uf]

I love conspiracy theories. My favourite is that Serbian guy who's trying to prove ancient Egyptian is really a Serbian language.

[@marcmarc7454]

Hi Ancient Sites 😉

[@ancientsitesgirl]

@@Ian-yf7uf I had a laugh❤🤣

[@KateeAngel]

Also have you seen videos about a tik toker who thinks that Roman Empire didn't exist?

[@angela_merkeI]

@@KateeAngel Isn't just a troll? I've seen a bit of that and immediately dismissed that as unfunny trolling.

[@sheilashoop3308]

This video alone convinces me it really happened

[@-oiiio-3993]

Whatevs.

[@SG-tx1fz]

It did the reason they where erased is because they where Islamic alquemists since they knew how to manipulate matter they could meet all their needs with alquemy we are talking about making wood into metal rock into fruits etc and so since they couldn't be controlled with money and be good little slaves they where just erased from history like many empires from the past when their population achive certain level of enlightment

[@samward9641]

Yeah as you know when KZbin puts out the debunking video as the first video on a subject it's got to be true...😮

[@ibanlimited2020]

It is always quite hilarious when you hear a European trying to tell Asian history to Asians or African history to Africans, not realising how much they are laughed at. The present Jewish people are Europeans, why do you always try to separate them because they have changed their geographical location? A Chinese is a Chinese anywhere they go, same with Indians, Africans and every legitimate people, except Europeans. Europeans became Australians after they traveled there and killed the population, as usual, they steal their history and erase what they can't claim ownership of, look at the Americas, Africa (Egypt, Israel, South Africa etc), parts of Asia, and new Zealand, they always seem to forget that the people they are dealing with gave them their civilization twice! Quote me on this; the highest level of civilization is living in harmony with nature, not destroying it.

[@VisualdelightPro]

Europeans are Colonialists and Academic Colonialism is the biggest crime.

[@JT-yx7vf]

They're not Europeans. They just happen to live in Europe. When we take even simple DNA tests like 23&me, it shows the separation between them and Europeans.

[@ibanlimited2020]

@@JT-yx7vf are you taking about the Jewish people? If yes, base on the DNA you mentioned, where are they from?

[@JT-yx7vf]

@@ibanlimited2020 They're from the Middle East, and when plotted on a Principal Component Analysis looking at DNA clusters, they're somewhere between (but not grouped in with) Arabs and Europeans. They are their own distinct group, not just culturally, but in terms of their DNA. They're a racial group who travelled from nation to nation.

[@ibanlimited2020]

@@JT-yx7vf 'DNA clusters'... SMH... the middle East is a recent Western creation after the Swiss canal was built, it use to be Northeast Africa, with Africans on the land, not Caucasians. If we are going to discuss truth, most of them are from Germany, Turkey and Eastern European countries. Africa originally never had any Caucasians, all the way to what you call middle East and India, it's basically Arian invasion. The land knows it's own.

[@tariver1693]

11:03 As a Volga Tatar myself that was interesting to know. We are always told that we just adapted the exonym and before that just called ourselves Muslims, or "Kazan people".

[@ПавелПетков-ю8ь]

or Bulgar?

[@tariver1693]

@Mehmed Islamof Greetings, brother. :)

[@tariver1693]

@@ПавелПетков-ю8ь AFAIK the ideology of Bulgarism appeared only in the second half of the 19th century with the Wäisi movement. And still it was just a movement and not a universally accepted idea.

[@thecandlemaker1329]

@@mr.purple1779 Don't forget Volga Finns.

[@thecandlemaker1329]

@@mr.purple1779 Not noticeable? Seriously? Look at the genetic makeup of Volga Tatars. 28.3% of them (the largest percentage) bear the Finnish haplogroup N. Which confirms that the bulk of modern Kazan Tatars are ancient Volga Finns assimilated into the Turkic culture.

[@josephusthescholar8008]

Shakespeare made references to the Tarters in some of his plays. In "Macbeth", one of the ingredients used in the witches potion is 'Tarter's lips'. And in "Much Ado About Nothing", a character jokes about grabbing the Great Khan's beard.

[@walterpay341]

Didn't expect to be dragged down another random rabbit hole...thx interwebs

[@abcdef27669]

Other "lost civilizations" K&G could talk about: -Akakor. -Lemuria. -Iran of the Pillars. -Hyperborea. -Thule. -Yonaguni "Ruins".

[@raquetdude]

The 4th was just the name of Northern Europe that was used by Greek colonies that was later used by white nationalists. Liv Agar did a great two part deconstruction of it.

[@InquisitorThomas]

-Finland

[@muzammilibrahim5011]

- Australia

[@MrDalisclock]

Florida

[@joeluna7289]

I can’t trust a page to tell me not to believe in something when they have a 3 minute ad before telling me why I shouldn’t believe 😂

[@djocharablaikan8601]

@@joeluna7289 exactly, if rona tought us anything it is that truth gets banned and censored, it doesnt get sponsored 🤣

[@SB_McCollum]

Sounds complicated, but never mind all that, I just wanted to say that News from Tartary, by Peter Fleming, is a fantastic account of a trip he made thru the region in 1935. You’ll have to keep your history hat on, 90 years ago is another universe now, but it’s cracking good read. I enjoyed every minute, I don’t think I’ve enjoyed a book so much since I was a little kid.

[@booboo7502]

Thank you for the recommendation! I’m interested in reading this book when it arrives. Love me a good adventure. 🙏

[@holyfreak86]

The owners of this channel are full hands on deniying the existing of Great Tartaria, Atlantis and the Great Kingdom of The Bigfoot!😆

[@KingsandGenerals]

We should be ashamed :-)

[@ajithsidhu7183]

@@KingsandGenerals sikh empire please for your Indian viewers

[@yugitrump435]

Atlantis? Idk man, it's kinda weird we've been discovering old as dirt civilizations over and over all over the world. I know the story is supposed to be a metaphor from an old blind man for the hubris of society but the dude had to have gotten some aspects of the story from some where.

[@Gigas0101]

@@KingsandGenerals Video on the Great Kingdom of The Bigfoot, please?

[@disguisedbea5941]

@@yugitrump435 discoveries of ancient empire make me believe in abrahamic religion that adam was created by god. god already teach adam knowledge before sent him to earth

[@vow4621]

Tartaria totally exists. I made it in CK3 with my Vampire Lord and his sister-wife.

[@augustusprincepsvictoria77]

Lol there is a vampire ck3 game go play that. 😂

[@hebl47]

I feel like there should be a horse somewhere in this sentence as well.

[@yetagain9736]

Profile picture checks 😂

[@LolosVideo]

@@hebl47 and a sword

[@thomasmacginnes100]

dungeons and drachma’

[@FruityFruitbat]

When Tartarian truthers insist that humans couldn’t have built any of the old “Tartarian” buildings because all they had to build with were horses and carts and hammers and chisels, wtf do you say to them?

[@fica1137]

That nephilim built them and that current powers did world a favour by getting rid of bastard sons of fallen angels. Sounds more believeable I say

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

'What were Tartarians, if not humans?'

[@blinqe3592]

@@ukaszwalczak1154tartarians are humans

[@blinqe3592]

Well id hope that the creator is able to debunk them, maybe show construction evidence? But no, only completion photos. Nice

[@FruityFruitbat]

@@blinqe3592 There are some construction photos out there.

[@jackpayne4658]

I recall watching a KZbin video dealing with Tartaria. Apart from promoting the infamous Mud Flood, it discussed the worldwide network of buildings with pointy tops, spires, etc - which formed a global electrical energy distribution system. For some reason, the Berlin public zoo was a key feature of this network. Looking back, I often wonder if that video was real, or whether I dreamt the whole thing.

[@asian19persuasion]

Based schizo.

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

A lot of Tartaria-themed videos reference the "antiquitech" that was incorporated into the architecture of the "Old World" for the purpose of harnessing free electrical energy from the atmosphere. The controllers of the present age enrich themselves by monopolizing the creation of energy via more primitive methods and its sale to the dependent general public.

[@arturoperez8879]

Sounds about right though

[@corbincody9506]

@@Daniel-415-PonceNikola teslas wardenclyffe project🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

@@corbincody9506 Yes, Tesla knew.

[@TheEmporerofRome]

I did not know this “conspiracy” even existed in the first place. This is the first time I have ever heard of this.

[@leebartelt2802]

Best explanation I've seen for this. This is what I understood as an explanation for the tatar in history.... but my confidence was LOW bc I've never heard this distinction so clearly made. I'm looking forward to an accurate update of the ukr situation....

[@johannesmaximilian848]

Its funny because according to some keyboard specialists, it doesn't even end 200 years ago... They will point to monumental historicist architectural from around 1910 like that in Paris, Vienna, Nyc etc, of barely 3 generations ago. They will claim that humanity, who accomplishes structures as the those in Dubai today, was not able to build monumental 8 story hotels in 1900.

[@sumkindacheeto]

You know, it's funny, because the Burj Khalifa doesn't even have a sewage system.

[@evan_brightfield]

Ironically I bet you blindly believe all Jesuit forced history and science 😂

[@sumkindacheeto]

The catholic (and other sects of the) church did change the meaning behind the original sin and the afterlife by having the Bible rewritten a couple times. The afterlife didn't always mean forever suffering in hell because you didn't want to serve the church's interests, marry or some other obscure bs. Christ taught of pitying sinners over resenting them, since real sin can only be by choice and as a result - a weak character. Not because of base impulses, necessity or other trickery, but because of character.

[@StarShadowPrimal]

This theory sounds like someone posted a retelling of the events of their game of Crusader Kings on Reddit and other people with no knowledge of history thought they were serious. This is also my new head-canon to explain the "Rome never existed" conspiracy theorists.

[@dominicguye8058]

😂

[@K.Pershing]

Isn't Tartary a ck2 formable?

[@rachard]

@@K.Pershing everyone g angsta till the ck2 mongol player start spitting bars *OOOAAAAAA*

[@K.Pershing]

@@rachard *starts to aggressively beatbox*

[@seandmoore6922]

The greatest civilization that never existed.

[@2ktwoways]

cap

[@officiallyundead9380]

Tartaria was established by survivors of Finno Korean hyper war

[@ComboMuster]

Read 'Empire of the Steppes' by Rene Grousset a compelling masterwork. Mongols under Genghis conquered Tatars kingdom and incorporated into his own, as such when mongols invaded Kievan Rus, tatars made up a significant number of mongol army. Captured warriors identified themselves as tatars (rightly so) that's how the name stuck.

[@blkgardner]

The term "Tatar" is generally used by Turkic speaking populations. However, those populations considered themselves ethnically Mongol, and are generally associated with successor states of the Mongol empire which were often ruled by male-line descendants of Genghis Khan. The Steppe empires were generally not ethnically homogenous, with tribal alliances playing a greater role than ethnicity and language. For example, the Avar Khanate was majority Slavic, and is associated with the Slavic migrations into the Balkans. Likewise, various Turkic tribes adopted a Mongol identity upon their absorption into the Mongol empire.

[@usuhbi]

Those tatars were old mongol tribes from the hun empire times that lost contact with the mongols. Huns were mongols who conquered china, russia, rome, and most of europe. Atilla the hun was a mongol khan. One of those nations the europeans called tatrs were the cumens. They are depicted as having blonde hair and blue eyes, which is bs. There were only a few who did and those were northwestern europeans who joined the cumens later on. The cumens were also mongols but refused to join the mongol empire. So genghis khan sent jebedei to take them out. After the cumens lost, they rejoined the mongol empire and later became part of the golden horde (horde directly translates in mongolian to empire). So yes, tatars means mongols. Its just a word meant to demean mongols that just stuck around. Europeans, russians, and the chinese called mongols tatars.

[@DarkKhagan]

@ComboMuster I have a copy of 'Empire Of The Steppes' it's a must have for any serious student of Steppe Peoples History and Culture.

[@daviddonoso6577]

Looking at the comments basically echoing your position I hope this doesn't get unnecesary hate. I actually was hoping more scholarly information to look more into the topic but frankly these talking points are not enough to debunk any of the public issue. There is a confirmed Tartarian cover up mentioned on a CIA declassified file from 1957. I actually can provide the direct link to the original CIA website to whoever asks. It literally says "Tatarian history was to be revised... let us be clear it was to be rewritten". To what extents the cover up has altered the history as we know it I believe has not been really understood and this video just feels like someone that wanted to generate content and get their channel going. Word analysis on historical sources show a spike with a clear gap supressing the word Tartary starting from the XX all the way back to the XV century. The spike shows there was a clear extraction of the word Tartary for hundreds of years. There is in fact more evidence of Tartary prior to these dates. Examining the unpublished works of John Dee's historical research there are instances were Tartary is mentioned, but only titles live were a Presbiter John from Tartary is mentioned and more of the cultural aspects could've been found on the fourth volume of Famous Discoveries but the crown was not interested in these ever seeing light. There was a geographical location, there were people, the sources might never be disclosed due to how tied they are to preserving state interests, or maybe we could figure it out if we all actively ask for it we just don't know. But til we organize ourselves, we the viewers are just left to fight KZbin experts who have no interests other than breeding echo chambers like this comment section. All I know is that if people align themselves to actually try to articulate their interest in a thoughtful manner we'll be on a better spot. Not wanting to hate just thinking these are not counterarguments that can deny a CIA confirmed cover up that interested non-other than the frigging soviets who are historically famous for lying to advance their interests. (If anyone needs context, the CIA intel mentions that it got scholars and scientists to work on the cover up) so yes silly me thinking I can find anything on KZbin but also silly those who think these debunkers are up to date on what they claim to know This is denser than what the average person's attention span might be able to digest.

[@willemvanoranje5724]

I knew this conspiracy theory, man, things be crazy these times. Thanks for clearing this up.

[@evan_brightfield]

lol he didn't debunk anything just rehearsed jesuit coverups

[@CloroxBleachCompany]

The idea of “Tartaria” has been trending among white supremacist conspiracy theorists, who are DESPERATE to conjure up a common ancestral civilization, in order to justify land claims and solve internal strife. To understand why, look into real world examples happening right now of people wanting to fill a cultural void in order to justify continued control-such as the Mormons, who are currently attempting to usurp as the founders of the Maya civilization in order to steal land from the local natives (Look up Utah-born Mormon/Mayan archaeologist Richard Hansen’s interview with Vice for more). While Europeans once collectively revered the Roman Empire as their common ancestral civilization-a schism happened when the radicalized descendants of northern Barbarians and Vikings resented being seen as the catalyst to the empire’s downfall. The idea of Tartaria fixes that by uniting both factions under a common ancestral civilization. The reason this theory is now hitting the West is because it is being used as a misinformation campaign by Russian intelligence seeking to radicalize people into extremist ideologies for purposes of psychological warfare.

[@evan_brightfield]

@@ButcherMose there is hundreds of hours of video showing evidence of this most of which physically exists today. Questions he doesn’t answer, why does the “Great Wall of China” protect mongols from China? Why do interpretations of genghis khan prior to Jesuit contact in Asia look to be of western descent? Mummies of red haired giants found in these areas as well including all over the world which you can easily find info on.. don’t get your information from KZbin promoted channels 😂 how easily people forget our history is given to us by Freemasons and Jesuits and they question nothing

[@pectenmaximus231]

@@CloroxBleachCompany this is exactly it

[@sergpie]

@@latinobunny9882 I’m fantastically proud of my culture, especially in knowing that (subsaharan) Africa didn’t have the wheel until like the 1500s. I don’t need a weird, fabricated, megalomaniacal distortion of my history to be proud of it. I can look at a Norman revival building and think “wow, what an amazing style of ornament and design that we should emulate it twice within a millennium”, and not have to jump to “tArtaRiA” as a conclusion. If you have to attribute your peoples work to a nonexistent fabrication, then you do your people more a disservice than whoever you think it is who’s “covering it up”.

[@romanvonungern-sternberg1322]

A video on the Northern Yuan would be awesome stuff, especially in this style.

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

This civilization could’ve been a major inspiration for a fictional setting that consists of island chains that were once the Russian colony that it has elements of Tartaria. Maybe this island chain would become new declared russophone nations. And that one nation would be a constitutional monarchy and one other nation would be a Soviet satellite state, and the Cold War would be literally warmongering.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

For that time period in literature, "The Mongols We Call Tatars" actually seems like a pretty snappy title imo. Also, appreciate the restraint in not calling proponents of the conspiracy 'Grand Tatards' - which would be very rude and totally not something I find funny at all.

[@JeromeArmstrong]

This is quack analysis followed by a quack response. Funny how he doesn't go into the real evidence in this video, the architecture. Try that one swami.

[@thomasmacginnes100]

your comment is tongue in stuck , be a guest to your limitation or what is your specific Take on the foregone ? lol

[@karrensogomonyan3746]

There is a big difference between Tatar and Tartaria , not a same thing .

[@charonsferryold]

Slavs reinventing hotep shit is something that definitely took me off guard as of late

[@JkDibine]

The heathen has gone mad

[@Anglomachian]

Ah yes, if there’s a problem in history, it’s either the British or the Jews fault. I had a woman in a supermarket last year tell me all about how North Africa used to be a single unified empire that was undermined and betrayed by the British, specifically the government, and then had all records of this super state destroyed before colonising it. She said that both Brian and Kemet (Egypt) have copies of the diplomacy that brought this about, but that neither modern government wants to make it known.

[@madeachanneljustcauseican3968]

She sounds like a lunatic tho be fair the British did create a lot of historical problems that continue to affect people today from segregation to exploitations that continue to affect modern diplomacy. The British did also betray many of its allies from the arabs that fought for them in ww1 to the leaders of colonialised nations.

[@Anglomachian]

@@madeachanneljustcauseican3968 sure, but history is one long string of people doing that. When the US stops being so powerful, everyone will remember them for being the world power responsible for all problems. Then the one after that, and the one after that. Britain is hardly unique in having been the cause of ongoing problems.

[@Vanished_Mostly]

I knew my cousin Brian was hiding something...

[@elindioedwards7041]

I have a very good friend who has bought into this Tartarian Empire and the Mud Flood 'narrative'. Very well read guy who was telling me that this actually extended over into North America. I had never heard of it. I was aware of course of the Tartars and their relation with Turkic and Mongol people but this whole Mud Flood was totally new. Amazing.

[@kmaher1424]

And remnants of Tartarian cities in America were disguised as World Fairs so they could be erased when the supposedly temporary Fair buildings were removed. Somehow, no early settlers noticed these cities. Or took photos...

[@elindioedwards7041]

@@kmaher1424 and of course these 'Tartars' in North America never left descendents or remnants of Turkic linguistics. I would not be surprised if modern day populations in Mongolia and Siberia share some genetics with Native American populations through migration across the Bearing Straits. But this has nothing to do with Tartars, Huns, or any other people from Central Asia or the steppes.

[@musaka2022]

@@kmaher1424 Truly hilarious stuff

[@victoriaalbastra6325]

Search for " The fake history of Chicago" by Fred Dodson. It's a good place to start.

[@kmaher1424]

@@victoriaalbastra6325 Is this the Frederick Dodson offering a course in Reality Creation? If I wanted to spend $999 on a trip to Orlando, I would prefer going to Wait Disney World. Still looking for his book or article on Chicago

[@philipbell9301]

My wife was born in Crimea on the black sea, they know about the tartars. It’s not the Mongolian region of the world, it’s actually in the Black Sea area and there are many artifacts from the civilization in that region.

[@restrictedarea4860]

Can you tell us more what do they say or what are some folktales that they're (your wife) are told about the tartars?

[@xLycian]

@@restrictedarea4860 They Turkic and erased from history by western historiographers... cuz they afraid from them a lot

[@restrictedarea4860]

@@xLycian I have a map from 1480 that has Tartaria situated to the right of the caspian sea and directly south of the Colchis directly west of Poland, and southwestern to Bolgaria I believe that the Tartars and Turks were probably separate ethnographic profiles "maybe not entirely unrelated" but in customs and lineage origins

[@bobibob5442]

@@restrictedarea4860 Dont forget that the 1 maybe is an I (i) from 300-400 to 1300-1400 there is no real Mainstream History

[@thomasrinschler6783]

Conspiracy believer: "Great Tartary existed! Just look at this map here! Anything on it must be true!" (points to map that shows California as an island).

[@chile_en_nogada2090]

Thank you!!!!!!! Theres so many weird conspiracies theories about this that its nice to have something like this thats more realistic

[@jamp12008]

Have you heard the one that it was buried in a mud flood? I heard about it one channel called the crowhouse. The guy talking was a complete nutter. I couldn't believe the madness he was saying. Funny as hell 🤣 Edit. I made this comment before I actually started the video

[@ΜιχΛαζ]

There are none conspiracy theories there only viable and true and the one that ain’t.Conspiracies was a every day on every empire especially in Roman and later Byzantine empire and especially today with all those multi billion profits made.

[@augustuscaesar8287]

All I heard about the Grand Tartary is that they're responsible for the Pyramids in China, as well as the red headed and blonde mummies from the Tarim Basin. That the people being genocided in China, the Uyghurs, are a mix descended from, partially the Tartars and partially the Han Chinese.

[@Etetana]

@@jamp12008 you should look at the photos of the structures buried by, well - mud. It’s not really a conspiracy, what’s a conspiracy is the ideology behind it - being that it was an advanced civilisation

[@Etetana]

@@jamp12008 but then again, there’s heaps of proof that Nikola Tesla got his ideas from these people

[@richardlawrence1835]

KZbin talked about having people ready to combat certain information, so tartarian empire and flat earth... even if it's a conspiracy seeing that you have a video to dispute makes it seems very real.

[@GrungeForward]

Than you for making a video to refute this insanity I've found all over the internet.

[@ritascott8948]

STAY 🐑 YA 🤡

[@manny75586]

I recently heard someone making an impassioned defense of the Tartarian Empire. I am a sucker for digging into shit like this so I did. It's pretty wild how many people are absolutely on board. One of the first things you mentioned is where the whole thing collapses for me. There is absolutely nothing approaching uniformity in an origin story. I'm not talking minor deviations, there are several that are at direct odds with one another. The other which I saw somewhere else was the idea that all of the neo classical architecture in the US and Europe is actually Tatarian and we just sorta "ignored" that Tartarians ruled over the US and went on with our lives. It's inexplicably bizarre. Beyond the fact that we know the style is a direct descendent of ancient Greece (who predate Tartars by several millenia), it's just bizarre that an empire allegedly operated in plain site and nobody thought to mention it. The most bizarre is the the Columbian Exposition in Chicago at the start of the 20th century was allegedly a Tartarian city built inside of Chicago, to no local resistance, lasted for a year and was destroyed--against absent any resistance. The internet is wild, man.

[@marcobelli6856]

And the tatars were Building in neoclassical style 🤣🤣 they were romaboos

[@Alex-um4fe]

And the Greek and the Romans can't show and tell how they built any of their classical buildings. That goes for the pyramids too.😂😂😂😂

[@Nayero26]

I have an old Globe at home my 10 month picked it up I've never paid attention to it because I assumed I knew the globe and its territories but I decided to read it and I saw Tarrar Riea on it and checked youtube. This was passed down by my great grandmother. And here I am.

[@Avvy89]

I occasionally follow Tartaria stuff but more as a worldbuilding exercise instead of an actual conspiracy theory. Got to admit, it does tickle the creative juices a bit.

[@musaka2022]

Seems to be poplular with women

[@gauntlettcf5669]

Lmao my friend I totally understand you on that 😂 I felt the same when I first heard about the silica trees age and the conspiracy theory that some mountains are really big tree stomps (I believe one of them is called "devil's column/tower" and it's in the US, I think). It's absolutely bonkers, but it tickles my imagination and my fantasy-novels-writing butt XD

[@thomasmacginnes100]

All things Tartary’ should not be heaped in the (konspiracy) file, it is a term a clue to a rich history which runs through so many Nations (in and of ) !

[@stonkpuppets6393]

When they feel the need to ‘debunk’ something it’s usually over the target and worth a closer look.

[@JeromeArmstrong]

This "debunking" can't even begin to look into the architecture and explain that one... oh yea, slaves and pullys!

[@tobymeowmo]

I think it's funny because I'm 45 and am just hearing about it. Sooooo if they dont teach you anything about it in school and everyone poopoos it... in my experience its probably true.

[@crayzmarc]

This is great!!! You should have a debate with Jon Levi.

[@Nikp117]

Anytime I hear academics speaking with a snobby tone about “debunking myths”, or conspiracies, or misinformation, it immediately makes me go and search out the opposing sides explanation for their case. I suggest you all do the same, instead of assuming orthodox academia is the end all be all.

[@kmaher1424]

The opposing side consists of a few KZbin videos.

[@ericgwalsh]

@@kmaher1424 there's so much historical revisionism and nonsense in academia that they only have themselves to blame for the fact that people question everything.

[@chandy3859]

@@ericgwalsh so does non academia and a lot of people questions stupid things

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

Napoleon himself said that official history consists mostly of lies agreed upon.

[@kmaher1424]

@@Daniel-415-Ponce How do you know he said that? If history can't be trusted, why trust that quotation?

[@awesomehpt8938]

I feel like drinking brain bleach after hearing about this conspiracy for the first time.

[@tab207]

I feel that way anytime someone quotes the television or a politician

[@tab207]

Or a mainstream “historian”

[@emperortomcat]

I have been studying the Mongols for decades, and even considered writing a book on them. There are so many inaccuracies and misconceptions about them it is unbelievable. It was not that long ago someone tried to tell about this Tartaria thing. It is completely bogus. There is a new book called The Horde by Marie Favereau that fills alot of missing gaps at least within the history of the Golden Horde, the closest khanates, to the Europeans. It is not completely accurate to say Europeans did not know about the Mongol political shifts, the Russians did, but they were looked down by other Europeans until Peter the Great gained his country respect. The idea of there being a vast empire that spread technology and trade, that completely changed the world it true, it is just the Mongols that are responsible for it all. They are the singular force that took, mixed and shaped ideas from all the peoples they conquerored and made new things. Even after the Mongol Empire "fell" all the smaller Khanates continued to exist and besides periods of war they continued that trade and flow of goods. The book The Horde talks about all of this. The structures and practices established by Chinggis Khan lasted long as his Empire was no more.

[@emperortomcat]

@@michaelfetter5413 What are you saying here exactly? You are supporting made up shit in the face of overwhelming evidence that fills in thee supposedly empty gaps?

[@Kaizen917]

They were so great, they developed the invisibility to the point of hiding their whole civilisation.

[@JeromeArmstrong]

They are not the only example of that too. The story of history leaves out a lot.

[@MuxauJ7]

Oh, and then there's a small, even crazier subsection nestled between some nationalists, flat-earthers and new chronology folk, who argue that central asia is in fact New World, (as in, it doesn't actually exist to the west of Atlantic), with grand canyon, major american rivers, great lakes etc. being in fact located in kazakhstan, while some other sites are located in uzbekistan and other countries. I didn't figure out at the time if it was some elaborate troll, and at this point I'm too afraid to ask.

[@goncasoliveira]

Sooo the basic argument here is that if the conspiracy is right and “they” erased the history of tartary, why would it still be on the maps? Not gonna lie it’s a bit shallow I was expecting way more debunking of the theory

[@-oiiio-3993]

'Mud Flood' is baseless idiocy.

[@justenhansen]

He also said this: "which is more likely, that a faceless organization completely erased a vast empire both archaeologically and in sources across the breadth of Asia in hundreds of languages, and replaced its existence with made-up dynasties and empires, or ..." Seems like decent logic to me. The "they forgot to erase all the maps" part is just an addendum.

[@tonymellow9067]

@@justenhansen how is that decent logic? lol..

[@justenhansen]

​@@tonymellow9067can you imagine what it would take to erase all history and replace it with something else? That's conspiracy land.

[@blinqe3592]

@@-oiiio-3993and giant rock from space wiping out dinosaurs isn’t? It’s the same principle. Both catastrophic events wiping out an entire civilization/species. I don’t understand how it’s this hard for you to believe something so simple, perhaps decades of calcification and being comfortable living in deception ?

[@crazydinosaur8945]

we need more like this "Truth about how Denmark is not a real country" "Truth about how Turkey was founded by a Turkey (bird)" "the Truth about how Mussolini actually was a Moose"

[@sergpie]

No, but Belgium is definitely a non-country. It exists only because Britain wanted a safe landing pad.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

I'm trying to think of an empire that destroyed another great empire and didn't brag about it. They tend to gloat about that sort of thing.

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

Yes, generally speaking, you are correct, but it is also not unheard of historically for a victorious civilization to strive to eradicate all physical vestiges and cultural memory of their defeated rival (e.g., what the Romans did regarding Carthage).

[@RobertStCyr-pe7ic]

I remember back around 1970ish when I was in the third or fourth grade. We used a then very old History text for our World History class. East and Central Asia had the lable, "Tartars." There was a Mongol horseman depicted next to the name.

[@janedoe-hq9vn]

I wonder if one could get their hands on that textbook? Maybe a copy is floating around out there. I'd be VERY INTERESTED in seeing that... I have a set of encyclopedias from the late 1950's. I should look in them to see if something like that refers to Tartaria...🤔

[@KingsandGenerals]

That is the entire point of the video...

[@godsbutterfly3688]

I too had a book like that. Thank you for reminding me.

[@FnTn78]

Тартария, Туран, Тюркский каганат, Золотя орда была уничтожена внутренней войной за власть между Тюркскими народами, потомками Чингисхана, когда они перебили друг друга появились многие государства. Европейцы,Китайцы, Арабы и Русские переписали историю чтобы стереть этот длительный промежуток истории,но след который оставили Тюрки в архитектуре и языках мира никогда не стереть.

[@ViperAqua]

Where can I find this link between some people call ancient tartaria and ancient Turks, stay blessed!

[@bryansprecher]

His-story its custom to erase your enemy. We only have a vague idea of reality.

[@K.Pershing]

150 is something your great great grandfather could remember, how would the british act upon the memory of the central asians, or russians, or the native turks or mongols? How did the jews do that? How did the mud do that?

[@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC]

Hello everyone from Grande Tartary (Kazakhstan).