Tordesillas - How the Pope divided the world between Spain and Portugal

[@KingsandGenerals]

Happy New Year! Toss a share for your youtube channel!

[@Liquidsback]

Oh valley of plenty.

[@peymanmostafaei6963]

If I may, Who are the biggest losers of maritime trades and then colonization at that tumultuous era?

[@KingsandGenerals]

@@peymanmostafaei6963 the biggest loser was the Ottoman empire, it seems - they weren't in control of the lucrative trade anymore, while their opponents got progressively richer. Eventually, we will cover the Ottoman-Portuguese Wars and it will be extremely interesting for the whole Age of Discovery thing.

[@peymanmostafaei6963]

@@KingsandGenerals I think the Chinese could have been a maritime superpower if it wasn't for their Haijin. Honestly, I don't understand why the Ottomans didn't send any ships to these new lands at all because they had lands in West Africa (that could be turned to their bases) and they had the wealth and technology to do so.

[@ghostd69]

Can anyone tell me or give me video how the ships navy was looked like in 8/9/10 century ?

[@th3omachos]

Pope: America goes to Spain and Asia to Portugal Brazil and Philippines: *visible confusion*

[@napolien1310]

Nice one lmao

[@tancreddehauteville9983]

Dutch-Portuguese War Portugal gain the West whilst The Netherlands gains the East Suriname and Portuguese Timor: *visible confusion*

[@gustavoguti27]

The limit was set with a line that crossed trough a big chunk of actual Brazil. Portugal just overextended

[@SantomPh]

the Dutch and British (100 years later) *what are you saying sir*

[@agbottan]

I'm from São Paulo (state), Brasil. Got to check where the meridian were and discovered that I already crossed it many times.

[@abcdef27669]

Tordesillas: The first international treaty every brazilian learns in the school.

[@ZhaoDrek]

as a latino.. i can asure that xD

[@MrMatklug]

and how we exploited

[@gordusmaximus4990]

Then Portugal cheated the treaty and created the biggest country in south america haha

[@nerobernardino88]

As a Brazilian, that's true.

[@vitordavid6086]

Then we took your gold

[@Wi-Fi-El]

Spain: look at my new colony! Portugal: actually it's mine! Spain: I'm telling the Pope!

[@gregorjerman973]

Pope: Actually You both are my B*tches Right?

[@bn56would]

@@gregorjerman973 more like: Adtalely yau batn ma bayvhaa rogn?

[@gregorjerman973]

@Plo Koon They're Still His Bitch when numerous Crusade were Called and they Answered and they also sought Papal Support for every Marriage and Divorce they Made Lmao! 😂

[@leandronunescavalcante7367]

grande verdade kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@enriquepascual8767]

John,, you are wrong, before any gold of silver crom America arrived in Spain, the spanish armies had amready defeated the supposed best armies of Europpe in few battles, the heavy french cavalry and the swiss ñikermen. Spanish were just the strongest, fiercest a.d ambitious pelple in Europe after 700 hundreds years or cruel and total war agaknst the muslims, so the destiny if Spain was to rule the world, for those spanish, Spain was too small for their ambitipouz, their instint was to expand Spain, the only mistake was that tvey became involved in the religious,wars of north Europe, tve 80 years war against the dutch was,a mkstake, we cluld have used alm those men and reslurces to secure the north of Africa and expanding our territories in Oceany and elsewhere.

[@SpanishDio]

Portugal: **Tricks Spain with Brazil** Spain:**'Reverse Uno Cards' and tricks Portugal with the Philipines**

[@antoniopimentel3546]

meh i prefer brazil to be honest it gave us gold and all the goods spain produced in the americas due to the fertlity and diversite of brazilian climate, also tbh the Philipines weren't as abundant as the spice islands.

[@SpanishDio]

@@antoniopimentel3546 yeah but,Brazil was as wealthy and productive as one viceroalty, Spain had 4 of them, the Viceroyalty of La Plata, New Spain,New Granada and the Viceroyalty of Peru. and Portugal colonies in the spice islands were short lived due to the dutch! greetings.

[@diegonatan6301]

@@SpanishDio well, not exactly, Peru and Mexico were as rich and probably even richer than Brazil, but the other colonies were far behind, only the mining regions of what today is Mexico, Ecuador, Peru, and Bolivia were really rich and developed, the rest had potential, but the Spanish were never able to really develop. Brazil on the other hand was the sole producer of Sugar in the 16th and early 17th century, was also in a good position to make the triangular trade between Africa, Portugal and the Americas, and during the 18th century half of the gold produced worldwide came from Brazil.

[@SpanishDio]

@@diegonatan6301 Sure that is true, but you are horribly wrong about the sugar plantations during the XVI,XVII and XVIII Spain was the number one producer of sugar in the world, sure Brazil produced a lot, but Spain had controll of 70% of the Caribbean Coast, and the biggest plantations in the continent , in Cuba , La Española , Puerto Rico, the coast of Panama, Colombia and Venezuela aswell!

[@swaminathanbalakrishnan5182]

Brazil was a tropical forest - with the related revenues. Spain's haul was much greater.

[@spacemarine8197]

Please do a video on Russia’s expansion in the east

[@warrcoww6717]

Cossacks and Kipchaks

[@abcdef27669]

That would be great! There are several aspects of the expansion over Siberia that resemble the colonization of the Americas.

[@yllbardh]

you mean the russian colonization of asia, 'cause today russia is the only colonial power left with it's dominion intact while other colonial powers had to give up theirs....

[@Manuel-gu9ls]

I love learning more about Russia 🇷🇺 ❤️

[@BudMasta]

@@yllbardh good 👌

[@darrynmurphy2038]

Britain and France in 1916: We divided the entire middle East between ourselves The US and USSR in 1945: Yeah, well we divided all of Eurasia between us Spain and Portugal: Amateurs

[@jacintovski]

AMATEURS

[@nattygsbord]

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[@darrynmurphy2038]

@themailman43 You misunderstood the meme format

[@Iwantmilk0]

@themailman43 it means they are amatuer only taking small land while spain and portugal devided the world

[@mnichols1979]

@@Iwantmilk0 yet the sun never set on the British empire for many years

[@andrehenrique2093]

The Treaty of Tordesillas is part of the history of my country Brazil. Thanks for the video Kings and General.

[@enenao]

When the Iberian peninsula ruled the world.

[@Flarisic]

good times

[@flabbergaster1011]

@@Flarisic not for the native Americans

[@JoaoVitor-wp9zg]

​@@flabbergaster1011 Sure, they became civilized people, freed from their barbarian states who treated then with no valor whatsoever, even conducting human sacrifices, who lived as CITZENS of the greatest empires of their time and also received evangelization and catechism from the great Jesuits, still today being the majority in their countries. While the British genocide their native population's land, reducing them to petty reserves and to petty irrelevance, politically and culturally, and worse of all, if they would ever receive evangelization, in the case the English overcome their racism, they would receive the hideous words of heretics. So the natives here in South America should (and we mostly are) be very grateful that it was the Portuguese/Spanish whom reached we first.

[@VIC-tz6wc]

​@@flabbergaster1011For the Native Americans it has been worse when the English and Americans appeared

[@ribbonmusha]

Rule Iberia, Iberia rule the waves.

[@tiago9291]

Just remember that Portugal barely had 1 million habitants at the time of the discoveries

[@kanyekubrick5391]

Tiago wild

[@qwdsdnaovbav]

essa gente também não cabia toda num barco

[@acusticamenteconvusional9936]

And Castilla 4 millions, population has never been the strong point in the iberian peninsula.

[@carapo66]

That didn't matter much. Almost no one else had guns, ships and cannon.

[@ntha6424]

that was the difference between Spain and Portugal Spain always had the land population > therefore they had larger armies to invade further inland in the colonies, whilst Portugal had a greater fleet in the earlier stages and was the greatest naval nation, the title would later go to Spain being the most dominant naval and land empire in the world.

[@Albiliuss]

Pope: so what lands do you want? Portugal: Sim Spain: Sí

[@bienminhnhat]

Ronaldo approves

[@baconator2427]

Ronaldo takes every country for Portugal

[@garringo2416]

Spanish Tercio: Santiago, cierra España Inglish, French, Ottoman, Ronin pirates, Duch and Swedish numerically superior armies and navies: Run or die

[@Pablocarlitosleonel]

I am not spaniard or portuguese but i am very proud of my mediterranean brothers. Que vivan España y Portugal! Una faccia una razza.

[@su_morenito_1948]

Rocco TA Yeees.

[@gordusmaximus4990]

South Europeans should unite more, specially with the situation of the last decade.

[@Mrkabrat]

The city of Durango called, and it wants to know why Italy used it and its civilian population as a bombing run practice with the blessing of Spain. More than three hundred civilian lives claimed and no apology yet. Baina nire aitaren etxea zutik dirau, basapizti halaena

[@su_morenito_1948]

Mrkabrat Basque nationalist detected?

[@su_morenito_1948]

Mrkabrat You think that what Mussolini and franco did has anything to do with modern Spain and Italy?

[@GarfieldRex]

Sees Castillan and Portuguese shields. Immediately clicks in.

[@GarfieldRex]

Castilla and Leon of course. Also missing Aragon.

[@warrcoww6717]

Portuguese flag is still one of the best in Europe

[@deumevet]

@@GarfieldRex aragon was in decay sadly, and a de facto castillian puppet

[@delarkaBCN]

@@deumevet Spain = pancastilianism

[@fernandogarcia3957]

@@delarkaBCN Disculpa?? En ese momento donde hay riqueza es en el centro peninsular. Cataluña está en crisis económica grave desde 1450, en las entonces Vascongadas había tal pobreza que es cuando piden lo de la exención de impuestos COMO SI todos fueran hidalgos. Asturias y Galicia estaban agobiadas por lo señoríos. Y donde habia riqueza era en Burgos, Valladolid, Avila, Segovia... Lo que significa que quien hacía la mayor aportación de dinero y gentes a las empresas de la monarquía eran los castellanos. No siempre la estructura y la geografía económica han sido iguales ni con la distribución de hoy, un poco de contexto no viene mal. (Entonces el Conde Duque de Olivares dijo : el resto de las Españas ens roba, hagamos la Union de Armas. El resto es historia.) 😝

[@jamiekamihachi3135]

Because my favorite period of history is the 19th and 20th centuries, it’s a little strange to see when Spain and Portugal were still great powers and England was just a backwater island in the North Sea.

[@anxeletemccolin699]

Living in the XXI century it results equally strange to believe that England ever had an Empire...

[@tnightwolf]

Either you like it or not, we got there first... sorry XD

[@robertdornan8611]

A lot started to happen after James VI, took the English Throne

[@mahfoudseraf5995]

The spanish inbred themselves to have the empire that they know today, but the british had the greatest empire and they were naturally white!!!!!!

[@Pikkabuu]

@@mahfoudseraf5995 British Empire was the greatest?! Ever heard of the Roman Empire?

[@fernandogarcia3957]

It seems to be forgotten that there was a genuine spirit of exploration on the Portuguese (and Castilians, whose Queen would not start the «the race for the Indias» until no Muslim dominion in the Peninsula could threaten Castile or be a beach-head). The Portuguese already were decades into slowly exploring the African coasts before that massive arrival of Genovese sailors, as far as I know...

[@crusadershistory8967]

Indonesia have been muslim in that year Maluku is name from Arabic "Mulk" (king-kings)

[@SpanishDio]

**Rest of the world exists** *Spain and Portugal* during the *XVI,XVII,XVIII* Centuries: *It's free real state.*

[@andrewgrandma2816]

Then the Italians went to Ethiopia trying to run the same scam, and the king of Ethiopia said welcome... to my Christian kingdom, where we have been Christian since 100AD. Lol....

[@markhenley3097]

Only in the XV AND XVI Centuries though. Spain then went bankrupt to Italian bankers, and then ruled by Charles II.

[@andrewgrandma2816]

@@markhenley3097 but the Germans, British and Dutch used the same approach in Africa and southeast Asia. Then the USA in the Caribbean and Spains southeast Asian holdings transferred to USA ownership including Hawaii. And all of Florida territory land taken under the Popes decree by Spain was then transferred to the USA. So.... Lol it keeps affecting the whole world. Then the USA invented Manifest Destiny. A self imposed decree that God sees fit the USA conquer and rule from sea to sea across the North American continent.

[@desmondd1984]

@@markhenley3097 Turns out that gold alone doesn't make a country rich.

[@SpanishDio]

@@markhenley3097 What are you talking about? In the XV Century Spain didn't even exist.

[@ramsaybolton9741]

"Realising Portugal's naval might was superior". That sentence brought me such happiness and at the same time sadness when i realize how far we have fallen :(

[@xenotypos]

It was inevitable that a small (albeit innovative) country with a limited population such as Portugal would be surpassed in the navy department sooner or later by bigger European countries, with a bigger populations and gdps. Nothing shameful.

[@jorllima]

The problem of Portugal and Spain is that we had never been truly united. And in the fruit of this imposibility is our present.

[@miguelpadeiro762]

@@jorllima Actually Portugal's downfall was its unification with Spain in 1580, most of africa, asia and almost Brasil was lost to the Dutch, English, etc.

[@jorllima]

@@miguelpadeiro762 well, it was because they did not followed the roman empire model as the spanish did, instead they just controloed the shore cities to just comerce and did not mix with locals to create a hybrid society. They were really great sailors, but mistook the empire model to succed. Once the spanish and portuguese empires were "united" it was just its destiny to perish against other european nations in their routes, they barely created defensive points. If you look at the defensive of Brazil they were built during the union, the exploration and foundation of the cities in the center of Brazil were done by spanish jesuist priests, etc...

[@MaSsiVeGaming1]

It's worth noting that many of the main fleet ships of the Spanish "Invincible armada" were in fact Portuguese ships, some of the best at the time. These ships in the armadas under Spanish command were completely destroyed. The Portuguese navy really suffered.

[@22vx]

Remarkable to think that the Pope used to be a dominant world power unto himself.

[@akashsasidharan9747]

The pope has always been the real G .

[@monsignor2943]

I know right!!

[@barbiquearea]

The Popes still have power. They're just not as pushy about it as they used to be.

[@enesakhan4032]

ahh mate with a little history knowladge one can understand that sometimes just how powerfull pope and church under him is to the point of disgusted and hating but at the same time awestruck by it .. well those things are true for most of the humans who use religion for their own deeds bdw.

[@andrewgrandma2816]

Still is today. Before the NATO attack on Libya, the King of Spain who holds title of Holy Roman Emperor (he holds this title bestowed to him by the pope and his archbishop cronies) went and met with the Pope in a private meeting. Soon after war began and gunships were mortaring the harbors of Libya. Without their approval war cannot begin, so when the Holy Roman Emperor of today and the Pope meet in private it's always a matter of high importance.

[@OverlordARG]

"Sigh,..." *starts up EU4* "...here we go again."

[@general8191]

Finds south America in the 1450's, then with Portuguese flagship shows up in China in the 1470's

[@guodunniu]

God I just finished a game this morning, don’t want to do it again.

[@turmunhkganba1705]

OverlordARG angry Arumba noises

[@Boxyboom]

Your heir is a 0/0/1

[@NapoleonBonaparde]

Gets "Violated the Treaty of Tordesillas" −20 local settler Increase penalty and -10 yearly papal influence.

[@realhawaii5o]

Portugal moving the line further west is quite suspicious...

[@miguelsilva1446]

Its speculated Portugals Monarch knew about brazil It rests on the basis that in order pass the furthermost cape in africa you had to go realy close to brazil, else infernal winds thew the boats back up, that with the demand to move the line makes a decent argument id argue.

[@lelgazelle]

It's a fairly reasonable assumption to be made as Miguel said, particularly given there were policies of secrecy in place at the time. However, there's no hard evidence to confirm it. So unless some document shows up somewhere, which is highly unlikely, it will always remain speculative.

[@jacintovski]

@@miguelsilva1446 yep. Our caravels could just go near the shore, but not our carracks. They just had to yeet around the wind going in gigantic circles

[@dadoedu100]

I heard thal all the documents that could confirm any previous knowledge of the existence of Brasil were destroyed in the great earthquake of Lisbon.

[@KiwiAntz56]

The maps Columbus got his hand on from his Knights of Christ father in law hint that they knew way more than history gives them credit for.

[@StekliCujo]

Columbus: discovers the Bahamas Spain: -_- Cortez: discovers Mexico Spain: o_o

[@anthonygarcia1846]

@Youssef Houaoui he didn't pick up a book and read it was his commander that became overcome with greed when he saw the aztec nobles with there gold during one of their holidays to their gods, cortez wasn't their at the time the spanish revolted he had left his commander in charge, that when he slaughtered all the Aztecs nobles in a ambush in the temple when they were doing their rituals, which them led the aztecs to not trust the spanish, cortez wanted to protect them that's why towards the end of his life he was captured in cuba

[@paologarcia2138]

As a Mexican I will say this: Shut the fuck up, Cortés and his native allies liberated Mesoamerica from the Aztecs, they are bloody heroes, Plus Ultra y que se joda la leyenda negra.

[@rosaalba1660]

Eric Le Rouge Jewish Pirates of the Caribbeans

[@adityanawani8134]

@@paologarcia2138 Are you a native mexican?

[@paologarcia2138]

@@adityanawani8134 Yes, I was born in Mexico

[@vascogoncalves8542]

Eyy, Portugal in the spotlight. Love your work, keep it coming :)

[@Muguratiu]

I expected a pretty ordinary video. But woving into this the beautiful stories of Columbus and Magellan was good! You left aside many negative aspects of the story so the video has a good vibe. Also, the quality of the maps and artworks is top notch. Thanks and Happy New Year!!!

[@otgunz]

thanks for watching!

[@luisborja9736]

the quality of production on this channel is out of this world, i love it.

[@affandi99]

YES ! A perfect gift for incoming 2020 like this video, Happy New Year K&G !!

[@theuniverse5173]

Oh no

[@affandi99]

@@theuniverse5173 anyway

[@zeholandajunior]

Great video. Congratulations. Thanks for Portuguese subtitles. From Northeast Brazil .

[@enesakhan4032]

happy new year and finally a video about spanish and portugese empires. hope there will be other videos about these empires more ... a good video indeed K&G ... i hope with the coming year there will be lots of documents :) ... with the common joke ... see ya next year :D

[@rebeccaanderson5626]

You look handsome 😘

[@jpor7259]

“Isabella was clear, too, that these new lands belonged to her and Castile alone, rather than to her husband’s Aragonese kingdoms. ‘The discovery and conquest was paid for by these kingdoms of mine and their people,’ she wrote at the end of her life. ‘And that is why the profit from them is something to be dealt with and negotiated in my kingdoms of Castile and León and why everything that comes from them must be brought here, both from the lands that have been discovered so far and from those to be discovered in the future.’” -Giles Tremlett Most people cannot comprehend that Isabella of Castile is more important and instead depict Ferdinand of Aragon when discussing 15th century Spain. Castile was thrice larger and five times more populous than Aragon or Portugal. Simply put, Isabella and her kingdom dominated Iberian politics. Portugal was superior at sea, but in land it did not dare to go against neighboring Castile. Aragon’s interests lay in southern Italy, but even then it was Castilian troops that secured those lands for Ferdinand.

[@WillyWeiss-HH]

Where I come from, Ferdinand is barely mentioned in comparison with Isabel la Católica, even though he was of outmost significance for the empire's future, even before Charles the 1st (5th of the Holly ROman Empire), since he provided the importance of kingdoms and duchies such as Cataonia, Valencia, areas in the south of France and northern Italy. Isabel would have never achieved what she did alone, she would probably not have been even queen- Castille was torn in internal wars and conflicts, entirely, and Isabel was not the natural heiress to the crown, there was her brother (the late King)'s daughter , Juana, who at first had the loyalty of most Castilians. Both Isabelle and Ferdinand were Trastamara, so it doesn't really matter, but Aragon was highly important because of the territories it covered, without it there wouldn't have been a Spanish empire and Spain wouldn't have existet as it does today. But still you just hear about Isabel la Católica, many children here don't even know the name of "her husband". Feminism for idiots. Your analysis is completely incorrect. PD some of the people who financed Columbus were Aragon Jews.

[@br3menPT]

Isabela of Castila spoke quietly and very carefully to João II of Portugal

[@SUMERUP]

thanks for the details.. you are presenting a fine mirror to the everlasting spirit of nationalism..

[@thelderosa]

Absolutely fantastic... GREAT WORK... the detail of the sound of Fado ( a Portuguese type of music) when the narration is about Portugal... is absolutely perfect... good good amazing work and job... 🥰🙏

[@underofficerbrandonjoseph6512]

Here in Trinidad and Tobago our Coat of Arms has 3 Ships on it in representation of this First Voyage. Columbus named our southern mountain range the Trinity Hills because of its 3 peaks. The Capital City is called Port-of-Spain. I love History because it connects the dots.

[@rexchiliae]

No, “Trinidad" is because of Holy Trinity

[@JM-fo1te]

It should be reformed, to decolonize.

[@tonyagos1172]

Yes! Finally more Portuguese history. Keep it coming :)

[@Gomes1989]

It is important to highlight 2 things in regards to the refusal of João II to accept Columbus proposal. First Portuguese sailors had actually already known about Newfoundland in modern day Canada, and upon returning from their searches for India, once they cross the cape of good hope back into the Atlantic, the winds blew their ships in the direction of South America, coming very close to Brazil. While they didn't actually landed in Brazil until 1500, seagulls were seen coming to the boats, which meant land was near. Portugal had the strong idea that there would be a land mass between them and India, and so decided to bet on the safe route around Africa.

[@blafoon93]

Historical sources?

[@blugaledoh2669]

So Columbus wasn't the first European to find America's.

[@angela_merkeI]

@@blugaledoh2669 Of course not. Leif Eriksson was way earlier.

[@Gomes1989]

@@angela_merkeI At the least that we know of. But yes you are correct. Funny enough Newfoundland seems to be a common link for first arrivals, both the Vikings and the Portuguese.

[@gordusmaximus4990]

@@blafoon93 you can search, Portugal Cove-St. Philip's, this is a fact even admited by Canada.

[@joaocorreia1156]

What an awesome ArtWork, this vídeo just made me happy . Congratz,from 🇵🇹

[@otgunz]

thanks for watching!

[@alekdechateau7492]

This artwork is just awesome!

[@otgunz]

thanks for watching!

[@maverikmiller6746]

It is astonishing to see two powers preferred to talk and barter rather than killing each other to resolve important matters in that age.

[@anxeletemccolin699]

Sure thing, why fighting for half of the world when you can share the whole of it...

[@tnightwolf]

Everyone was probably very drunk at the time and between "nuestros hermanos" or "nossos irmãos"... it probably wouldn't be too hard to understand each other. And banter is the best form of skirmish anyway XD

[@SUMERUP]

yes Maverick with the help of the top dog of that era: a Borgia..

[@shawnnbits]

no one can be as bad as UK and France

[@bvillafuerte179]

@@shawnnbits Belgium: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@mosesracal6758]

Ferdinand Magellan is so underrated. First circumnavigation was conducted by his voyage but everybody knows more about Columbus. Columbus crossed the atlantic ocean but imagine crossing the entire pacific ocean with multiple storms, no idea of what lies out there and just to die before you finish your expedition. Seriously so much story potential is here.

[@mosesracal6758]

@alvaro ruiz Still, elcano was under the service of Magellan - it was magellan who enabled elcano to be there in the first place. I think Magellan deserves the credit. Elcano and his crew decided to take the western route instead of taking the path where they went because it was too dangerous and so went on to the proven and safer route. Even so, they barely managed to survive with only a single ship able to return - they would never be able to return if they took the eastern path.

[@mosesracal6758]

@alvaro ruiz From what I heard, Magellan severely underestimated the area of the pacific ocean and so that could be why his original plan was to sail back to where he sailed since he wanted to avoid diplomatic disputes with Portugal. If Magellan was alive after the battle of Mactan, I think he would've also chosen the eastern route since the journey across the pacific ocean was so perilous.

[@robespierre466]

Magallanes y El cano, para ser más exactos. Un saludo hermano portugués ;)

[@JulesXu]

Elcano si que está subestimado! Magallanes se murió en Filipinas, como dices que completo la primera circunnavegación al globo un muerto? Fue el primer zombie de la historia? Joder, estonces si que le infravaloramos. La primera vuelta al mundo la dieron 18 hombres a los cuales dirigía Juan Sebastián Elcano, persona que nadie conoce ni valora fuera de España por qué de nuevo toda la historia española está tergiversada para infravalorar y ocultar lo que hizo. Magallanes iba con la intención de hacerse y señorear una isla en las Molucas para hacer comercio y por allí se murió. Elcano fue el que decidió regresar después a la península y hacerlo además por África a pesar de que corrí ael riesgo de que los portugueses le capturasen, pues no podían navegar por esa parte del mundo barcos del Rey de España. La verdad nunca saldrá a la luz, como mucho entre los hispanos, y ya será mucho, pero no por ello dejaremos de confrontar las mentiras. No veis lo ridículo que es decir que alguien que se murió a mitad de camino fue el primero en completar una vuelta al mundo que ni siquiera buscaba? Como decimos en España, no hay más ciego que el que no quiere ver.

[@JulesXu]

Por cierto, decir que Magallanes había renunciado a su nacionalidad protuguesa por varios desencuentros que tuvo con el Rey de Portugal. Ahora resulta que es nacional por algo que ni siquiera hizo y al servicio de otra corona. A veces la historia se cuenta de ridículas formas siempre al servicio de los más variopintos intereses.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Spain: Portugal: Spain:

[@iminbreadbutfrench8625]

Portugal:you weren't supposed to do that

[@yaldabaoth2]

Especially funny since during the Iberian Union Spain and Portugal were in personal union.

[@iminbreadbutfrench8625]

funny because I was so confused when I study about this treaty I keep on asking my self why does the Philippines belongs to Spain?

[@zecanas1]

@@iminbreadbutfrench8625 Because was traded with brasil. Its one of several 'conspiracy theories' around the portuguese explorations. Fernando Magalhães was portuguese and his voyage was a joint cientific venture payed by both portugal and castille under castille lidership. This has caused several minor diplomatic incidents betwen portugal and spain recently. The spanish want to nationalize the circunnavigation and portugal does not allow it.

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

@@iminbreadbutfrench8625 because magellan found it for espanya

[@vifrisk]

Força Espanha saudações de Portugal ❤🇪🇸

[@S.O.N.E]

Viva Portugal 🇵🇹!!!

[@joesoares-pu8og]

Viva Espnahois ❤🇪🇸 Caralhoooo!!!

[@alfiansofakhair4630]

Just a little note : So at Moluccas Islands, that small conflict was between Portugal-Ternate Sultanate alliance against Spain-Tidore Sultanate alliance

[@masayukitachibana2756]

*visible confusion intenstifies*

[@coolfer2]

Actually Portugal had a loose alliance with Tidore sultanate in their rivalry against Ternate. But since Portugal started to christianize the islands, Portugal ended up being hated by both sultanates. The vacuum was eventually filled by other colonial powers, Spain backed the Tidore sultanate against their rival Ternate, which was actually backed by the Dutch. It didn't go too well for Spain obviously, since the Dutch was the one who eventually came to dominate the East Indies. Unlike their Iberian counterpart, the Dutch actually didn't try too hard to convert the locals. That's why only Moluccas and eastern Indonesia was Christian, while the western part of the islands retain their muslim faith. The fact that there existed the strong Malacca sultanate and the Ottoman-backed Aceh Sultanate in the west also didn't help the christianisation cause. Not to mention that the Dutch VOC was mostly profit-motivated. They had no strong desire to "civilize" the colonies.

[@ennui9745]

@@furiouschicken1 Because Ternate and Tidore are the only initial sources of Cloves in the entire world...and Cloves have a market price of 8.00...so tasty.

[@srj607able]

Your voice and the Epic history tv KZbin channel voice are the best to listen to. Also great content. Thank you

[@FranciscoSilva-qd4dm]

Finally Portugal. The heroes of the sea!

[@edipires15]

Under Francis noble people

[@ntha6424]

@Tecumseh bruh europeans learned slavery from Arabs bruh

[@goldenlily2618]

Uk tho

[@voltagedrop5899]

@Tecumseh vae victis, redskin.

[@lasera01]

@@ntha6424 thats not true at all but as a joke: good ..

[@JonatasAdoM]

Portugal: And this kids is how we got to Japan

[@lordlucius1341]

Netherlands: I’m gunna do what’s called a pro gamer move now.

[@alchemist6819]

@@lordlucius1341 British after a few centuries: let's copy them and conquer the largest empire!

[@luistheserrano4785]

@@lordlucius1341 the dutch have no shame, or honor, and never did anything original, just copied the portuguese. Hence these videos about portugal and spain, but never about the dutch

[@86thrasher]

Funny thing is the Portuguese discovered Japan by accident. A Chinese ship containing Portuguese travelers originally heading for China shipwrecked on Tanegashima Island in 1543 near Kyushu.

[@kanad2693]

@@86thrasher it sounds suspicious, because china and japan knew each other from the beginning of civilization. May be Portuguese found it accidentally but they could have just asked Chinese people about the surrounding lands

[@TheRandalf90]

Portugal already knew about the existence of brazil before the treaty. That's why they demanded the line to me dragged to west.

[@brandonbohr.7301]

Mentira.

[@simaozinho37]

Nao se sabe se isso é verdade ou nao é mera especulaçao, mas é suspeito que Portugal tenha insistido tanto com o Papa para expandir mais umas leguas para a Oeste, mesmo a passar em cima do costa oriental do Brasil.

[@Veon1]

@@simaozinho37 Na Historia de las Indias de Bartolomé de las Casas (que viveu nessa altura e foi biografo de Colombo), é escrito que D. Joao II disse em Tordesillas que conhecia "terras muito bonitas a Sul das que Colombo descobriu" como argumento para empurrar a linha para Oeste. Mas é possivel que ele tenha inventado...

[@simaozinho37]

@@Veon1 Sim mas se fosse o caso Portugal tinha anexado o Brasil em 1494 e não teria esperado até 1500 um espaço de seis anos para chegar lá. É possível que tenham passado lá portugueses e tivessem deixado um marco, encontraram um marco português na Austrália que estava lá 200 anos antes da chegada dos ingleses e no Canadá também o problema é que Portugal não podia colonizar tudo devido a escassa população , tínhamos pouco mais que um milhão de habitantes, se Portugal tivesse a população da França,Espanha ou Inglaterra o mundo seria muito diferente ias ver por exemplo uma Austrália portuguesa e Canadá português e talvez muitos outros sítios que Portugal deixou para trás por falta de números.

[@Nutty151]

But even then they wouldn't know if those lands would turn out to be profitable.

[@winj3r]

As a Portuguese I have to congratulate you on your research. Not many people know that Portugal demanded the line between both empires to be moved, so that Brazil would be part of the Portuguese Empire. Portugal already knew about Brazil before the Treaty, but Spain didn't so they happily obliged to this demand. I would just like that people would refer to Fernão de Magalhães by his real name and not by Ferdinand Magellan. He is Portuguese and has a Portuguese name: Fernão de Magalhães

[@85cadian]

He actually changed his name to Fernando de Magallanes by the time of the expedition, so that was his real name, the one his acomplishements are credited with, and the one people should use when referring to him.

[@Nhexturtle]

@@85cadian who cares? both times castile needed someon from Portugal to do what the spaniards could not.

[@jeanlundi2141]

@@85cadian lolz

[@TrainLordJC]

This has been a most informative video (like all of your other ones as well). I particularly like this one because I read many books about this history over the years and it inspired me to not only know more but actually set out on my own journey of exploration, coincidentally I was also born in 1951, five hundred years after Columbus in 1451. As a Dutch Australian I flew to USA and bought an old VW campervan and drove it solo to the top of Alaska and then to the bottom of South America, visiting as many sites as possible relating to your topic of The Treaty of Tordesillas. I visited many colonial forts and historical towns and cities along the way and found the architecture and the history most fascinating. I continued this journey by transporting my VW van across the Atlantic on a car carrier and travelling all over Europe. Unfortunately this journey came to an end (after three years of spectacular adventures) in Seville Spain, where I had my van parked overlooking the Guadalquivir River on the Avenida d'Oro (where the Spanish ships embarked for the New World). After wandering around the cobble stone streets of old Seville at night, enjoying the evening ambience of what this city represented, I came back to find my 'home on wheels' stolen!! I was devastated! Of course! And this action changed my life completely. So watching this video brought back lots of memories of my travels through these lands. Actually, as a result of the theft of my VW campervan I ended up marrying a Mexican and having a son to her. He is a Dutch Australian Mexican! And now I am married to a lady from the Philippines who is also part of the amazing history of the connection between the Philippines and the Spanish colonial empire. I remain connected therefore!

[@nigelmartin2254]

Australia was formerly known as New Holland. You definitely have been "out and about"! I lived in what was formerly called Van Diemens Land and I am sure you know of Abel Tasman and his adventures If the World had not been divided into two halves and "awarded" to Spain and Portugal, there would have been no Spanish Armada, and no incentive for the Dutch take up the sword! Malacca is a "pinch point" controlling the Spice trade. I once visited the Dutch East Indies graveyard in Malacca. Colonial histories are a great geopolitical jigsaw puzzle, bring understanding of consequences ---> consequences of consequences!

[@portugalthefakeone9913]

I'm a simple Portuguese guy. I see Spain the Realest One, I CARALHO ❤🇪🇸

[@rayanhey2411]

Happy new year!!! Finally you will hit 1 million subscribers in 2020!!

[@panamono9217]

This Treaty was the best Treaty in all human history!!

[@Akislav1990]

K&G Videos are ridiculously rewatchable. I've seen this for the 3rd time now since it has been released.

[@peymanmostafaei6963]

The importance of events at fifteenth and sixteen centuries are to such degree that it can be felt to modern times. Rise of Ottomans and then Hapsburgs, turning Iran from Sunni Islam to Shi'a by Safavids, rise of Mughals and their advance in India, rise and fall of Mings, the Warring state period in Japan and rise of people like Oda Nobunaga and Takeda Shingen, The civil war at Europe between Catholics and Protestants which showed itself in England more than any other nation at the time in Europe. And then discovery of America which later created the infamous Atlantic slave trade and started the age of colonization.

[@manuellopes6913]

a correction, the country that suffered the most with the catholic-prostetant conflict was the hre with the 30 years war

[@peymanmostafaei6963]

@@manuellopes6913 I meant based on the shift in the religious and political affairs. This change was necessary for England to turn itself into a power. Not any meddling from Papacy every time...

[@manuellopes6913]

@@peymanmostafaei6963 I get what you mean, but the papacy already had little impact in english affairs. after the 16th century the papacy basically lost all its power, especially after the 30 years war, and the hre got completely destroyed never to recover. it stopped being a powerhouse and the empire became meaningless as all the kingdoms within became de facto independent nations.

[@fernandogarcia3957]

Yesss.I wish it was me who said that, hahaha, I usually think about how those events shaped the world in a way it stills resonates, as waves made from a past drop in a flat water surface... Also the following comments bring something to these ruminations. Happy new year!!

[@peymanmostafaei6963]

@@manuellopes6913 Think it this way. After James IV of Scotland became king of England and Ireland (and took the new name James I 😂), many new protestants in England in protest to his coronation due to him being related to Catholic monarchs, left their land for the new world which is known today as British colonisation of America and is a turning point in human history (personally I believe this is one of the main reason different governments in United States and United Kingdom or Great Britain had close relationship through 19th and 20th century despite the wars they waged against each other, as the core of the elite people in both military and political domain in USA had British ancestry).

[@alancristhian7532]

Sou Brasileiro e muito fã do seu canal, parabéns! É notória a sua dedicação na produção dos vídeos, por isso ficam sempre excelentes. Em particular, gosto muito dos vídeos sobre a história dos impérios Português e Espanhol, além dos que falam sobre o catolicismo, a grande cisma, a reforma etc. Continue com o ótimo trabalho!

[@IoannisS84]

Wonderful video. I love king and general’s thematic videos- am also in love with officiallydevin’s voice, it does have a mesmerizing quality. Happy new year guys.

[@nadimsarieddine9835]

All latin american native tribes: Why do I hear boss music?

[@LordHoth_90]

Why are we coughing?

[@joaovitor9673]

They were too busy fighting each other

[@celeridad6972]

*American native tribes. this events marked the beginning European dominance on the whole continent not only the Spanish and Portuguese possessions

[@sepvlkiller]

When the native see the game auto-save

[@yesid17]

@@joaovitor9673 im about to be too busy fighting you for that racist comment 🙄

[@Hadrexus]

Please make a video about Afonso de Albuquerque, his story is fantastic

[@anjusanal]

Caolho, o Pirata For some reason, I think I’ve heard of that guy somewhere , but don’t know who he is .....

[@jacintovski]

@@anjusanal Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's because you're an Indian (at least your name seems Indian to me. Again, if I'm wrong, I'm tremendously sorry). Afonso de Albuquerque was the second viceroy of India. He was a military genius who guaranteed the Portuguese Empire in the East Indies. You should really look him up.

[@anjusanal]

João Jacinto , No, you are correct, I am an Indian, though that’s not the only reason why I heard of him. You see, I am a great history nerd, and I have read or heard the names of so many people in various places(I don’t memorise most of them, only the important ones) that whenever I hear their names later, I recall(sometimes wrongly) hearing their name somewhere.

[@Hadrexus]

@@anjusanal well he was a formidable commander who managed to fight off severe odds and conquered a lot of territory in Asia for Portugal

[@carlosvarela8281]

@@anjusanal Memory problems?

[@deron2203]

THANK YOU!

[@vladimir-ep4xk]

Omg the artwork is really really beautiful

[@Arms.Enthusiast]

I am loving these colonial history videos! Please continue this series on the age of colonization.

[@crish.9277]

I wasn't expecting this at all

[@Zielonkawozielonkawy]

2:47 A little mistake. Columbus was born at 1451, not 1415. :)

[@ilFrancotti]

*was born.

[@Zielonkawozielonkawy]

@@ilFrancotti thx

[@zvimur]

Yes, my brain wheels screeched when I realized the implication of a 77 years old Columbus in 1492.

[@anjusanal]

Zvi mur ,Especially considering the average age a person died at that time.....

[@hughjass4736]

That's quite a mistake

[@Veon1]

Just to add a bit, early in the video it is mentioned that Portugal claimed Columbus' discoveries based on "earlier treaties". This would be the Treaty of Alcáçovas, which, among other things, gave Portugal a complete monopoly on lands South of the Canary Islands (so it was predecessor of the kind of Tordesillas-like division, except with a line based on Latitude rather than Longitude). The treaty was a result of a war between Spain and Portugal a couple of decades earlier in which the Portuguese navy won a decisive victory over the Spanish in the Gulf of Guinea.

[@fernandogarcia3957]

Thank you, I was expecting someone to say this. Also expected to see the limit you mention as Cape Bojador. After Alcá¢ovas then it's normal that the Pope sanctions what is an expansion that is going to happen anyway, and the 2 actors at the moment and the ones which had the advantage in the «Race for the Indias» were Castile-Aragon and Portugal. Then it's simple to understand how it happened, and if «patriotisms» feel concerned that the world was divided by the «evil» Pope for two countries only and ignoring the rest of «legitime share» for others (France, England, Sweden, whatever) that this Treaty was a temporal solution, as the previous were, just setting the rule for as long as it could hold, and so they can put to rest any grugde or concern about this historical situation. IMO ☺ Well, it's late and I'm rambling ...

[@paulrowe9334]

A kings and Generals video is one of the best ways to end this decade.

[@KingsandGenerals]

There is still a year to go in this decade. Still, thanks :-)

[@giselasilva5415]

Ah, what a great present you gave me King and Generals, Thank you!! Looking forward for the battle of Diu 😘 happy new year

[@albertoluzon9079]

Ejemplo para todo el mundo de dialogo y entendimiento entre 2 vecinos de toda la vida. Vivan Portugal y España

[@skyfall7110]

I am portuguese and on school we dont get information on this depth. Thanks for yet another awesome vid

[@miguelsilva1446]

Yeah Portuguese history at schools suck They leave the best parts out

[@oldwine2401]

you had a comunist teacher

[@blacker5874]

¡Viva España!

[@gatoloco1873]

España le tenia tanto miedo a Portugal que tuvo que irse de quejicas con el papa

[@joaoantunes-xh1gy]

@@gatoloco1873 eso es lo que dijo tu papa cuando andabas metiendo el rabo dentro del agujero del coletas portuguesito si recuerdas?

[@TrentBrent]

sim, Portugal tem muita diarrhea isso sim! @@gatoloco1873

[@amandamartus486]

im from Cebu phillipines and it's an honor to be part of this history this month we celebrate Señor Sto.niño given by the Spaniards search it on youtube so you can see the beauty of the history the bloody battle of mactan were magellan died and the original cross of magellan attrack most of the tourist in Cebu.

[@araf633]

The migration of the Genoese to Portugal was presented here in this video as being the fundamental factor for the Portuguese maritime expansion. WRONG Before this migration occurred, the Portuguese had already discovered Madeira, the Azores, Cape Verde and were masters of the Canaries. They even had trade routes and treaties with African peoples up to what is today South Africa. The Genoveses went to Portugal just to maintain their business, nothing more.

[@Hramable]

Remember that they still need to convince that Colombo was genovese... Just for that. Ofc he was portuguese... And wasn't a poor silk worker from Genoa, cuz for that reason he WOULD NEVER married with who he did.

[@joaoguilhermemalatocorreia7570]

@@Hramable that theory is so wrong, how can the son of a genovese weaver marry into one of the most influental families of the madeira islands, the "perestrelos", in the 15th century, its impossible. there are so many things that don't add up in the genovese theory that i dont know how it started in the first place

[@Hramable]

@@joaoguilhermemalatocorreia7570 did you read the "Codex 632"? José Rodrigues dos Santos! Try it! Amazing. For the ones who like history with facts!

[@anna3046]

Spot on! The Portuguese started exploring and discovering new territories from the 1300’s and what made them successful as the Caravela!

[@br3menPT]

its not wrong....Portugal received money investments from Genoa...When D.Dinis created the portuguese navy the captain was from Genoa in that time Portugal didn´t had ships and didn´t had money to buy it

[@FreakMachineable]

As always - great work! Thank you a lot for your efforts!

[@hemantachamveedu7261]

What a video !!! You guys have truly made learning history an enlightening Experience

[@oossuu12121]

I’m a simple man. I see a Kings and Generals post, I click it.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Appreciate it!

[@MagicZell]

As the French king Francis I said about the treaty of tordesillas: "The sun is shining for everyone"

[@ravisinh7000]

He seems to be a visionary on his own 👍👍👍

[@MagicZell]

@@ravisinh7000 Kind of, but later he was captured by the spanish and the sun didn't shine for him for quite a while since his dungeon.

[@xTheacefrehleyx]

“The sun shines for me as it does for others. I would very much like to see the clause of Adam’s will by which I should be denied my share of the world”. That adam’s will was never found, so...

[@fernandogarcia3957]

Right, but at the time, only Portugal and Spain had the ships and experienced sailors to oceanic voyages. That changed, but not so quickly if you take a detailed look at the history of explorations and seafaring.

[@MagicZell]

​@@fernandogarcia3957 Yes of course but anyway it was a good punchline from Francis I.

[@gcircle]

I know it's a fringe theory, but the weird stuff Colombus did in the voyage back to Spain could be explained by a theory that gained steam here in Portugal in recent years, that Columbus was actually a Portuguese agent, sent to get Spain on a wild diversion, away from the "around Africa" route Portugal was exploring, and he was actually reporting on his mission to his real master. I know, wild theory, but there is a significant pile of (circumstantial) evidence that he was not Italy, but someone of, if not Portuguese, otherwise peninsular origin. I particularly like the theory that Columbus is a fake name, and his real name is that of a noble, born in a little Portuguese town called... Cuba.

[@Mr67Stanger]

Excellent! Keep these documentaries coming. Columbus first discovered Cuban then Hispaniola, where he left a contingent in what he called Fuerte de Navidad. Then he departed towards Europe in January of the following year.

[@Bejunckt]

Excellent video ! One of my favorites to date.

[@r4nasc0rpli]

Whose here after watching Shogun Ep.2 "I assure you my lord, their arrogance is unbelievable."

[@NYCfrankie]

Its really a shame that they don't teach these things in high school so younger generations can understand how history has and is shaping our current world

[@alexanderkvita3610]

Oh, this story about colonization was breathtaking! Also, thank you for using music from Civ 5)

[@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard]

Great video, man. Awesome content. For a 20 minute video, you mention most, if not nearly all of the important things of the matter.

[@garringo2416]

And great Santísima Trinidad you have there

[@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard]

@@garringo2416 El mejor navío de línea de la historia! Plus Ultra!

[@garringo2416]

@@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard Potenciador de la exploración subacuática britanica

[@Aeyekay0]

Great content as always

[@marcelosilveira2276]

13:10 Africa’s west current goes upward, making a downard travel almost impossible, requiring portuguese ships to take the currents going from Africa’s equator toward the west before going down again and returning to Africa at an “acceptable distance”. After decades of travels trying to find out how west they could go and how far they needed to be to go around Africa, adapting the ships cargo to allow for said travels, Vasco da Gama finally managed to do it... and reported that he went so far west that he found algae (sea-weed) typical of the coast, meaning there were lands nearby. The idea was that, by getting Brasil and Africa, they would close the acess to the South Atlantic, denying acess to anyone else. If only they had the fleet to actually enforce such closure...

[@johnericberlin4640]

*333 years of Spanish Colonial rules of the Philippines intensifies*

[@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347]

Hear hear.

[@Mystic_Stirling]

When you realise Putangina means differently in Spain VS Philippines...

[@deny.nurdin]

"1898 our last men in Philippine" 👍🏼

[@gadjali7876]

not all philippines spanish only colonize luzon and visayas they never conquered and subdue the moro people from mindanao

[@gadjali7876]

@George Nathanael no the spanish never conquered them they only control the land that their cannon can reach we only allow them to build fort because they already bring their steam ship our feared ship is already no match from armored steam ship btw I'm a moro from tausug tribe

[@rafafr9]

Great Video! However It would be cool if people made a video of the actual beggining of the great navegations, following Portugal during the 15th century. Its quite irritating to see people skipping to Columbus and Magalhães. Its is like talking about the space race and going strait to the Apollo missions.

[@lukezuzga6460]

Great job guys, just like I remembered it in class only much better with the visuals and of course Devin!

[@legendary3906]

We can learn more from this channel in a couple of weeks than from all of highschool.

[@fatmirkolndreu4410]

I am catholic from albania 🇦🇱 respect for catholic brothers

[@MrAnthimos112]

I caught the Assassins Creed reference with Borgia holding an Apple.

[@masayukitachibana2756]

MrAnthimos112 the apple my friend, the apple!

[@johnpijano4786]

I like the civ 5 music in the background.

[@ilnigromante666]

As a brazilian it is super cool to watch a video about something I studied at school.

[@Drahko12]

Is amazing and shocking how much is not though in history during school years. You guys are helping know so much even as I am now older

[@Gui101do]

More content on the Age of Discovery and Colonization please!

[@cathar1209]

I'm Portuguese myself, so it was a nice surprise to see this video appear on the feed. Thank you for it, the medieval and early modern history of Iberia has tons of possibilities for you guys. What about a video on the battle of Aljubarrota (1385)? That would be something, concerning the battle itself and the whole international context. I'd happily write a script for it, if you wish.

[@vinitsy]

As a brazilian this video make me proud of my ancestors God save the eternal portuguese empire

[@TsengCX]

Absolutely excellent as usual

[@Croweyboi]

I love your videos and i watch them all the time dont stop making them ever lol👍

[@KingsandGenerals]

Not planning to!

[@LiterallyMe2022]

world: exist spain and portugal: it's free real estate

[@mikes7566]

Great video! Hope you’ll continue the Ottoman War Series aswell!

[@roberttucker1527]

I'm looking forward to that

[@tomek1867]

The Pope said: "divide et impera"!

[@Scornbrand]

Wow, amazing video!

[@matthewparcell79]

Great video!

[@Javardo69]

a little over simplified the conquests portugal made over africa and asia, there were some wars between portuguese and ottomans, kilwa, zanzibar and many more before conquering those coastal provinces.