For all those asking how to do this while flying, remember, this is an excerpt from their ground school course. It teaches the concept of holding pattern entries in a manner appropriate to understanding them and how to determine the appropriate entry while sitting in a testing center taking a written test. Once the concept is understood, there are easy, quick methods for determining proper entries using the instruments in the cockpit while in flight that don't involve drawing. With practice, those techniques become second nature in flight, but are difficult to use without the instruments in front of you: thus, drawing the hold for the written exam.
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Thanks.
@kbuss103 жыл бұрын
is someone cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldnt be flying...
@TheFlyingZulu2 жыл бұрын
@@kbuss10 With regards to learning something or concept visualization, everybody's brain operates somewhat differently. With practice or repetition a person may or may not be able to "visualize" this in their head. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be flying because they could easily use other means to determine a holding pattern entry. If you're a DPE and fail checkrides on the basis of if they "cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldn't flying" let me know where you're based out of... I'll do my instrument checkride somewhere else!
@kbuss102 жыл бұрын
@@TheFlyingZulu Bro I'm a sim "pilot" on VATSIM. sadly in our country not many people can afford to fly GA for example. I'm an architect reasonably good with geometry that's okay but what I say is in the air there can be so many distractions if someone doesn't get this easily then it will be much harder in the air. but I know there is this concept in USA that basically everyone is fit to be a pilot I completely disagree with this. for example I know I would be fit to fly by myself but I wouldn't consider myself good enough to fly other people My family or paying passengers. when I think of a pilot I think of Rich from flying with rich for example
@TheFlyingZulu2 жыл бұрын
@@kbuss10 Ahahaha you're not even a pilot telling people they can't be pilots because such and such. Stop. Just stop.
@stevef3 жыл бұрын
Martha is a legend. She makes all of this understandable.
@ViperDriver223 жыл бұрын
I still love watching them, very funny and knowledgeable. Miss these folks.
@lumurumba3 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@kCI2512 жыл бұрын
Martha Lunken is a legendary bridge inspector, lol.
@johnhasson48272 жыл бұрын
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@johnhasson48272 жыл бұрын
@@kCI251 u
@ZonsoAvalune2 жыл бұрын
EXTREMELY based video. This is the best way I've heard it explained.
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@stuartw969 Жыл бұрын
20 years ago your wonderful book helped me through my FAA IR. Now my 19 year old daughter is an avidly keen student of your videos. Congratulations and thank you!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@theconcorden5 жыл бұрын
I've been watching John and Martha's videos since I started my Private Pilot Cert in 1997 and I love them! They are so knowledgeable, funny and easy going. I wish I could meet them one day!
@christopherhand48364 жыл бұрын
A G San Diego is where you need to go
@AT5023 жыл бұрын
I did an instrument course through them in 1987 and have also been watching them throughout the years ... they're ageless!
@tomrohan84805 жыл бұрын
She is Bob Ross of aviation
@bayouflier66413 жыл бұрын
very funny. Miss ol Bob
@jreg899 ай бұрын
Actually, she is not
@stuartw969 Жыл бұрын
20 years ago you books helped through my FAA IR course. Now my 19 year old daughter is inspired by your wonderful videos. Thank you so much!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@billmastorakis21372 жыл бұрын
Martha is a national treasure.
@GeorgeRon Жыл бұрын
Wow, takes a little bit of getting used to. I'm self-teaching holding patterns at the moment, glad I found this video right away as a start.
@Mcphaterson2 жыл бұрын
John and Martha = the OGs of aviation education!
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
;)
@paulmoore76354 жыл бұрын
This wonderful lady finally made me understand holding pattern entries! Thank you !
@KingSchools4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@joelmulder9 ай бұрын
This was difficult, until I saw it explained here visually. When you did the example with the victor airway, I worked it out and got it correct before you worked through it on my first try. When something just clicks like that, it’s the best feeling in the world! Fantastic explanation of how to do this on paper, thank you!
@KingSchools8 ай бұрын
So glad to hear it has clicked for you! It does feel good.
@ttmich4 жыл бұрын
I have watched many training videos and Kings is the best. She is clearly an excellent instructor: speak clearly, easy to understand and make it easy to remember. My school requires me to study the videos posted on KZbin and I dislike them so much: the instructors are very much reading out from the text book at the normal speaking speeds. The instructor also gave the VOR Holding instruction like the ATC, but at much faster speed that I usually hear the real ATC giving instructions. In studying from the reading materials, you need to read slowly the IFR lessons, or any technical lessons, highlight sentences and digesting the ideas. Teaching IFR by reading out the writing materials for students is a bad teaching method. Stick with the Kings training because they are the best. I got the DVD training from them!
@thatweldingguy556 Жыл бұрын
Such a difficult time remembering this. This explanation is absolutely spot on. I fully grasp and understand hold entries now. I feel guilty I learned this on KZbin. Thank you so much!!!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@patrickwilliams25543 жыл бұрын
Miss your a champion , please do not stop uploading! I love all your videos.
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@francescocandian27083 жыл бұрын
Martha you're simply the best. Honestly!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@pfsantos0074 жыл бұрын
Here cuz of FS2004. Practicing pattern entries in the lessons. Love you guys.
@Biggles24983 жыл бұрын
I wish I had known this 30 years ago doing my CAA Instrument Rating As Martha makes it so simple ! I think this Special Lady is (or was John I think) the Wife of a Great Instructor who made loads of videos FAA based and turned complicated crosswind landings into a "Sport" without all the BS in the Books. I bought every tape back then from the USA and even my CAA Examiner said my Performance in the air was drastically improved from average simply by watching the videos religiously !
@petervad3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why KZbin suggested this video to me; I know nothing about flying. But I found it fascinating and was glued to the end!
@cjstirgАй бұрын
The best one I’ve seen out of all the videos
@KingSchoolsАй бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Dogface19843 жыл бұрын
Martha helped get me a PPL with instrument rating. You a real one for that Martha!
@olivialeakidd4 жыл бұрын
I love her energy thank you queen
@AwestrikeFearofGods2 күн бұрын
King*
@Death_by_Inches4 жыл бұрын
Holy hell you made it so much easier.
@keithdmello2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I remember watching King schools back in the day.
@multibucker3 жыл бұрын
I like Martha.
@fly4fun244 ай бұрын
I learned how to fly with you and your team in 2003. and I still watch your videos to this day.
@KingSchools4 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking in!
@corbensumner37203 ай бұрын
This is an excellent video with a very concise explanation of the topic. I will be recommending this to fellow IFR students.
@KingSchools3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
@AwesomeAngryBiker2 ай бұрын
Stop bragging 🙄
@charlesthomas115910 ай бұрын
HOORAY ! FOR JOHN AND MARTHA KING .
@indigoairlines7912 Жыл бұрын
Thanks...Martha Mam....you are great
@paulb51253 жыл бұрын
I love your tutorials and I am learning so much from you. when you said super easy I spit my coffee out and I love it!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! (Clean up on aisle 5..)
@kflightdispatcher4 жыл бұрын
She seems like the grandma. So appreciate your wonderful straitforward explanation.!
@terryanderson73165 жыл бұрын
Terrific presentation and simplified well. I enjoyed it, thank you!
@Tom-mu7zy3 жыл бұрын
She has a very good presentation. Now lets translate this into the cockpit. I use my gyro compass as my chalkboard. In my compass picture I am always coming from the bottom of the compass towards the top and I imagine the holding fix in the middle of the compass card. Understand, I am always coming up from the bottom and the holding pattern rotates around the compass card. For example, you are northbound to the fix. 360 is the top of my picture. The hold is given as, "Hold NE on the 030 radial of ABC VOR, right turns." Find the 030 in the upper right of the compass card and finger or pencil point a line from the 030 in toward the center of the card. That is my navigation inbound leg (210 inbound). Now having fingered to the center where we imagine the VOR to be, make a right (CLOCKWISE) 180 degree turn, and go out towards the edge of the compass card parallel to the inbound leg. The hold is above the navigation leg so you are going to be flying into the holding side of the navigation leg when you cross the VOR. It looks like you have a perfect teardrop entry. If you can see this on the compass card you are already oriented for the problem. If the turns were left turns, your finger would have gone counter clockwise at the fix and outbound would now be below the line. Looks like you are heading towards the non holding side as you cross the VOR. This would require an immediate right turn to parallel the inbound leg and fly 030 then a right turn back to the fix for a parallel entry. Remember you are always flying up from the bottom of your compass card. The holding pattern rotates around the card. And if you can finger it, you can fly it. When my students can talk me through 6 different holds on a printed compass card at the briefing table in less than a minute, it was time to go fly. 20,000 TT 5000 CFII
@Pushyhog Жыл бұрын
l walked by hanger one day at montgomery and wavied at both of ya! thanks for the years.
@KingSchools10 ай бұрын
Rock on!
@garysgroundschool47393 жыл бұрын
Lady bob ross really just helped me learn holding patterns for good. God bless
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
"Lady Bob Ross" - Amazing
@ahmadtheaviationlover19373 жыл бұрын
@@KingSchools your explanations are just amazing!! Thanks you so much
@harveydent75593 жыл бұрын
This probably the best explanation. I like the pencil technique and remembering 70 degrees is simple, thx!
@MrMrsernie3 жыл бұрын
I also purchased the King's school garmin 1000 training module. It's terrific!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you like it.
@Cheickstar0014 жыл бұрын
Subscribed immediately after the second video. You explain so well. Thank you very much
@xcifer3 жыл бұрын
The kind of grandma we all want!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
:)
@hocinebouzina44762 жыл бұрын
Super easy, with a Super Teacher, Thanks.
@baliharsingh23152 жыл бұрын
Good job
@paulmcphie15965 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia the sector entries are printed on individual APP plate.
@rondon98974 жыл бұрын
Genius why they don’t do that everywhere I do not know
@hykuzo3 жыл бұрын
Lady you are fire! Best joke of the video was that my tears are little, after G-nav (EASA) i can say that they are not...
@poly_hexamethyl3 жыл бұрын
I really like her explanations. Very helpful, thanks!
@famamaes Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, awesome as always! Thanks for sharing!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@hakanmertakyüz7 ай бұрын
Pure presentatıon. Thank you 🎉
@FTroop37F3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to watch it again but I think I have a far better handle on this now. Thank you
@fernyfloresdrummer35683 жыл бұрын
Recomended!! They dont care as long as you do not put your air plane in the middle of traffic
@sirrevzalot4 жыл бұрын
I seriously LOLed at the lawyer comment 😄 The eyes said there was a story behind that. Too funny 😂👍
@aviatortrevor2 жыл бұрын
My rule is: 1) If it looks direct, it is direct. Otherwise... 2) When I cross the fix, am I leaving the fix into the protected area or away from the protected area? If it's into the protected area, it's a teardrop. If it's away from the protected side, it's a parallel.
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Nice rule, makes it simple.
@FWDSlip4 жыл бұрын
Regretting why I purchased the Sporty's Instrument, disaster! Great video, I'm going to remember this forever!
@rotass4442 жыл бұрын
Great teacher
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@Leonardo_davinci_5 жыл бұрын
Oh my Gosh amazing ! I had her as my Virtual Flight Instructor in Microsoft Flight Simulator 😄😄😢😍
@redglazedeyez66524 жыл бұрын
How did you do that
@holobolo16613 жыл бұрын
@@redglazedeyez6652 FS2002 I think, it was included by default
@ravenmorillo43443 жыл бұрын
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@raphaelrico15842 жыл бұрын
Thank you and God Bless 🙏😇
@joergwiesmann42613 жыл бұрын
....very nice !!! thank You very much !! Kinde regards from Switzerland !!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@joecritch1433 жыл бұрын
Ya the lawyer comment too funny. A safety inspector told me once “you keep on talking and i’ll keep on writing” lol
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious! Good to keep in mind.
@garytafoya88592 жыл бұрын
I found my soul in here!!!!! 👍🤗
@drangpojken3 жыл бұрын
As a A330 pilot this impresses me :)
@troyemmett33823 жыл бұрын
That is huge! I heard there were only three buttons and one switch on the 330's.. She is good!
@drangpojken3 жыл бұрын
Troy Emmett very true .. take off , coffee and land botton.. so easy
@thisbishawesome5 жыл бұрын
hey martha at 3:23 u stated that the (red) line we drew is to the left. but we swung our pencil to the right so i thought the line is to the right of the inbound leg
@djdalite4 жыл бұрын
Tear drop entry on standard turns: 30 degree angle to your outbound leg giving you 060 on your heading when you hit the fix, if you did from inbound you would turn to a heading of 240. I think shes thinking of a non standard hold
@Mikinct3 жыл бұрын
If one hits the Fix at a 30 degree angle to the Outbound leg which would be 090 degrees- yes it would be a heading of 060 degrees. After flying that heading for 1 minute you make a right hand turn using your Turn Coordinator until you arrive at your inbound on a 270 degree heading towards the fix. You'll notice your VOR localizer confirming you're now back on the 270 inbound to fix.
@mr26463 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation. Thx
@AyushGupta-ki6pg3 ай бұрын
nicely explained❤
@KingSchools3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
@Cys624 жыл бұрын
Piece of cake... yeah .... right... It took me quite sometime, to figure out exactly what she meant... after watching several other videos. Great video though, and thank you..
@pilotactor7774 жыл бұрын
she rocks!!!
@reneneckin42814 жыл бұрын
She's great! Thank you, ma'am!
@KingSchools4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@skyguysd6674 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you!!
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@VidsPhone Жыл бұрын
As a non-ifr pilot I am assuming this is a little more complex for high speed aircraft. One minute of flight in a Cessna 172 is a world away from a minute of flight in a Learjet.
@Kilgurt2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!😀
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@bernardgagnon61103 жыл бұрын
I remember stressing about this when I did my multi ifr flight test back in the 90’s
@a320nick Жыл бұрын
Hi Martha!
@dannylee55884 жыл бұрын
I have a question... ATC gives the instructions as you described. Now I'm supposed to take out a pencil and start figuring out what to do next all while traveling 100 plus mph. If I'm looking down all this time isn't that fixation?
@analogman96974 жыл бұрын
Wondered that myself...
@rnordquest3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the world of IFR flying. Some pilots do it at 200 mph. You’d better be quick. There are other techniques to do this in a few seconds. Practice makes better so get better and have fun.
@Jackjackattackboi3 жыл бұрын
The thumb method in my opinion would be best in the cockpit.
@19ij3 жыл бұрын
Thank you granny.
@nizarhefnawi63533 жыл бұрын
youre awesome, thank youuuu
@ace-kn1mw3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, super easy. Bravo
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@exodeus79592 жыл бұрын
No plane, no license, no idea how I got here. But like the videos. Thanks.
@KingSchools2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@khalidsaeed39092 жыл бұрын
بارك الله فيك..
@vogahl348 ай бұрын
Awesome lady!! Thanks
@KingSchools7 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@AlekseySudakov3 жыл бұрын
Go Martha!
@jasonbergey86763 жыл бұрын
At 10:00, how do you know when to initiate the first turn? Would it not be at strut?
@markprange43863 жыл бұрын
Strut?
@tanayag89972 жыл бұрын
Very well explained 👍🏻
@aviationobsession7773 жыл бұрын
Very useful instructional video about holding pattern 😊
@flemmingstelling80793 жыл бұрын
When commencing turn on the parallel entry @ 6:50 ,cant you just make the turn straight back to the fix, instead of trying to "dilly/dally" intercepting the inbound course so close to the fix ?
@tac-cobserver37883 жыл бұрын
Thanks mam 🤙
@Invisible_Socks3 жыл бұрын
Great content
@philipstubbs73993 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! You have helped me understand this so much better
@leslyrodriguez58623 жыл бұрын
Gracias, lo hace muy fácil a la hora de vuelo!
@samimaghrabi12475 жыл бұрын
Super easy, it only took 13 minutes to explain
@whatsyournameson72084 жыл бұрын
🤯
@josesantosBRL4 жыл бұрын
Essa velha é um barato! Gostei!
@qwert21844 жыл бұрын
감사합니다
@miklskyw55147 ай бұрын
Unbelievable easy👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻✈️❤
@deiwis34 Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@kennedyrogers3644 жыл бұрын
This helps so much!
@dhammikejayawickrama4736 Жыл бұрын
2:53 You say the pencil is right of the line and we need to swing it to the right but you move the pencil to the left, am i not understanding this right? This has been a very confusing topic for me and would appreciate a response on this.
@KingSchools Жыл бұрын
We did swing the tail of the pencil to the right in this example...
@castellopattimura6824 жыл бұрын
This helps me a lot, thank you guys i hope you guys have a great health
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@KingSchools3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@fulcrums40673 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mikearakelian63683 жыл бұрын
I do this on my DG... Same same...
@sirjosefofhessen4527 Жыл бұрын
I'm studying for my private pilot and I can see how this would apply vfr and ifr approach
@aircityboutique4 жыл бұрын
good day , on the teardrop you must fly a 1 MINUTE level and then intercept the inbound. soryy . from colombia . south america.