Memorize Holding Pattern Entries for Good

[@jamesnelson7415]

For all those asking how to do this while flying, remember, this is an excerpt from their ground school course. It teaches the concept of holding pattern entries in a manner appropriate to understanding them and how to determine the appropriate entry while sitting in a testing center taking a written test. Once the concept is understood, there are easy, quick methods for determining proper entries using the instruments in the cockpit while in flight that don't involve drawing. With practice, those techniques become second nature in flight, but are difficult to use without the instruments in front of you: thus, drawing the hold for the written exam.

[@KingSchools]

Very good point. Thanks.

[@kbuss10]

is someone cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldnt be flying...

[@TheFlyingZulu]

​@@kbuss10 With regards to learning something or concept visualization, everybody's brain operates somewhat differently. With practice or repetition a person may or may not be able to "visualize" this in their head. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be flying because they could easily use other means to determine a holding pattern entry. If you're a DPE and fail checkrides on the basis of if they "cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldn't flying" let me know where you're based out of... I'll do my instrument checkride somewhere else!

[@kbuss10]

@@TheFlyingZulu Bro I'm a sim "pilot" on VATSIM. sadly in our country not many people can afford to fly GA for example. I'm an architect reasonably good with geometry that's okay but what I say is in the air there can be so many distractions if someone doesn't get this easily then it will be much harder in the air. but I know there is this concept in USA that basically everyone is fit to be a pilot I completely disagree with this. for example I know I would be fit to fly by myself but I wouldn't consider myself good enough to fly other people My family or paying passengers. when I think of a pilot I think of Rich from flying with rich for example

[@TheFlyingZulu]

@@kbuss10 Ahahaha you're not even a pilot telling people they can't be pilots because such and such. Stop. Just stop.

[@stevef]

Martha is a legend. She makes all of this understandable.

[@ViperDriver22]

I still love watching them, very funny and knowledgeable. Miss these folks.

[@lumurumba]

Amen to that!

[@kCI251]

Martha Lunken is a legendary bridge inspector, lol.

[@johnhasson4827]

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[@johnhasson4827]

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[@billmastorakis2137]

Martha is a national treasure.

[@ZonsoAvalune]

EXTREMELY based video. This is the best way I've heard it explained.

[@KingSchools]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stuartw969]

20 years ago your wonderful book helped me through my FAA IR. Now my 19 year old daughter is an avidly keen student of your videos. Congratulations and thank you!

[@KingSchools]

Wow, thank you!

[@theconcorden]

I've been watching John and Martha's videos since I started my Private Pilot Cert in 1997 and I love them! They are so knowledgeable, funny and easy going. I wish I could meet them one day!

[@christopherhand4836]

A G San Diego is where you need to go

[@AT502]

I did an instrument course through them in 1987 and have also been watching them throughout the years ... they're ageless!

[@GeorgeRon]

Wow, takes a little bit of getting used to. I'm self-teaching holding patterns at the moment, glad I found this video right away as a start.

[@Mcphaterson]

John and Martha = the OGs of aviation education!

[@KingSchools]

;)

[@stuartw969]

20 years ago you books helped through my FAA IR course. Now my 19 year old daughter is inspired by your wonderful videos. Thank you so much!

[@KingSchools]

That is awesome!

[@paulmoore7635]

This wonderful lady finally made me understand holding pattern entries! Thank you !

[@KingSchools]

You are so welcome!

[@joelmulder]

This was difficult, until I saw it explained here visually. When you did the example with the victor airway, I worked it out and got it correct before you worked through it on my first try. When something just clicks like that, it’s the best feeling in the world! Fantastic explanation of how to do this on paper, thank you!

[@KingSchools]

So glad to hear it has clicked for you! It does feel good.

[@pfsantos007]

Here cuz of FS2004. Practicing pattern entries in the lessons. Love you guys.

[@thatweldingguy556]

Such a difficult time remembering this. This explanation is absolutely spot on. I fully grasp and understand hold entries now. I feel guilty I learned this on KZbin. Thank you so much!!!

[@KingSchools]

You're very welcome!

[@petervad]

I have no idea why KZbin suggested this video to me; I know nothing about flying. But I found it fascinating and was glued to the end!

[@Biggles2498]

I wish I had known this 30 years ago doing my CAA Instrument Rating As Martha makes it so simple ! I think this Special Lady is (or was John I think) the Wife of a Great Instructor who made loads of videos FAA based and turned complicated crosswind landings into a "Sport" without all the BS in the Books. I bought every tape back then from the USA and even my CAA Examiner said my Performance in the air was drastically improved from average simply by watching the videos religiously !

[@patrickwilliams2554]

Miss your a champion , please do not stop uploading! I love all your videos.

[@KingSchools]

Thanks so much!

[@ttmich]

I have watched many training videos and Kings is the best. She is clearly an excellent instructor: speak clearly, easy to understand and make it easy to remember. My school requires me to study the videos posted on KZbin and I dislike them so much: the instructors are very much reading out from the text book at the normal speaking speeds. The instructor also gave the VOR Holding instruction like the ATC, but at much faster speed that I usually hear the real ATC giving instructions. In studying from the reading materials, you need to read slowly the IFR lessons, or any technical lessons, highlight sentences and digesting the ideas. Teaching IFR by reading out the writing materials for students is a bad teaching method. Stick with the Kings training because they are the best. I got the DVD training from them!

[@fly4fun24]

I learned how to fly with you and your team in 2003. and I still watch your videos to this day.

[@KingSchools]

Thanks for checking in!

[@keithdmello]

Excellent! I remember watching King schools back in the day.

[@olivialeakidd]

I love her energy thank you queen

[@Dogface1984]

Martha helped get me a PPL with instrument rating. You a real one for that Martha!

[@francescocandian2708]

Martha you're simply the best. Honestly!

[@KingSchools]

Wow, thank you!

[@Death_by_Inches]

Holy hell you made it so much easier.

[@tomrohan8480]

She is Bob Ross of aviation

[@bayouflier6641]

very funny. Miss ol Bob

[@jreg89]

Actually, she is not

[@corbensumner3720]

This is an excellent video with a very concise explanation of the topic. I will be recommending this to fellow IFR students.

[@KingSchools]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@AwesomeAngryBiker]

Stop bragging 🙄

[@charlesthomas1159]

HOORAY ! FOR JOHN AND MARTHA KING .

[@kflightdispatcher]

She seems like the grandma. So appreciate your wonderful straitforward explanation.!

[@Tom-mu7zy]

She has a very good presentation. Now lets translate this into the cockpit. I use my gyro compass as my chalkboard. In my compass picture I am always coming from the bottom of the compass towards the top and I imagine the holding fix in the middle of the compass card. Understand, I am always coming up from the bottom and the holding pattern rotates around the compass card. For example, you are northbound to the fix. 360 is the top of my picture. The hold is given as, "Hold NE on the 030 radial of ABC VOR, right turns." Find the 030 in the upper right of the compass card and finger or pencil point a line from the 030 in toward the center of the card. That is my navigation inbound leg (210 inbound). Now having fingered to the center where we imagine the VOR to be, make a right (CLOCKWISE) 180 degree turn, and go out towards the edge of the compass card parallel to the inbound leg. The hold is above the navigation leg so you are going to be flying into the holding side of the navigation leg when you cross the VOR. It looks like you have a perfect teardrop entry. If you can see this on the compass card you are already oriented for the problem. If the turns were left turns, your finger would have gone counter clockwise at the fix and outbound would now be below the line. Looks like you are heading towards the non holding side as you cross the VOR. This would require an immediate right turn to parallel the inbound leg and fly 030 then a right turn back to the fix for a parallel entry. Remember you are always flying up from the bottom of your compass card. The holding pattern rotates around the card. And if you can finger it, you can fly it. When my students can talk me through 6 different holds on a printed compass card at the briefing table in less than a minute, it was time to go fly. 20,000 TT 5000 CFII

[@harveydent7559]

This probably the best explanation. I like the pencil technique and remembering 70 degrees is simple, thx!

[@terryanderson7316]

Terrific presentation and simplified well. I enjoyed it, thank you!

[@Pushyhog]

l walked by hanger one day at montgomery and wavied at both of ya! thanks for the years.

[@KingSchools]

Rock on!

[@paulb5125]

I love your tutorials and I am learning so much from you. when you said super easy I spit my coffee out and I love it!

[@KingSchools]

Awesome! Thank you! (Clean up on aisle 5..)

[@Cheickstar001]

Subscribed immediately after the second video. You explain so well. Thank you very much

[@Leonardo_davinci_]

Oh my Gosh amazing ! I had her as my Virtual Flight Instructor in Microsoft Flight Simulator 😄😄😢😍

[@redglazedeyez6652]

How did you do that

[@holobolo1661]

@@redglazedeyez6652 FS2002 I think, it was included by default

[@ravenmorillo4344]

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[@sirrevzalot]

I seriously LOLed at the lawyer comment 😄 The eyes said there was a story behind that. Too funny 😂👍

[@garysgroundschool4739]

Lady bob ross really just helped me learn holding patterns for good. God bless

[@KingSchools]

"Lady Bob Ross" - Amazing

[@ahmadtheaviationlover1937]

@@KingSchools your explanations are just amazing!! Thanks you so much

[@hykuzo]

Lady you are fire! Best joke of the video was that my tears are little, after G-nav (EASA) i can say that they are not...

[@fernyfloresdrummer3568]

Recomended!! They dont care as long as you do not put your air plane in the middle of traffic

[@xcifer]

The kind of grandma we all want!

[@KingSchools]

:)

[@FWDSlip]

Regretting why I purchased the Sporty's Instrument, disaster! Great video, I'm going to remember this forever!

[@MrMrsernie]

I also purchased the King's school garmin 1000 training module. It's terrific!

[@KingSchools]

Thanks so much! Glad you like it.

[@Cys62]

Piece of cake... yeah .... right... It took me quite sometime, to figure out exactly what she meant... after watching several other videos. Great video though, and thank you..

[@aviatortrevor]

My rule is: 1) If it looks direct, it is direct. Otherwise... 2) When I cross the fix, am I leaving the fix into the protected area or away from the protected area? If it's into the protected area, it's a teardrop. If it's away from the protected side, it's a parallel.

[@KingSchools]

Nice rule, makes it simple.

[@multibucker]

I like Martha.

[@poly_hexamethyl]

I really like her explanations. Very helpful, thanks!

[@FTroop37F]

I'll have to watch it again but I think I have a far better handle on this now. Thank you

[@hocinebouzina4476]

Super easy, with a Super Teacher, Thanks.

[@djdalite]

Tear drop entry on standard turns: 30 degree angle to your outbound leg giving you 060 on your heading when you hit the fix, if you did from inbound you would turn to a heading of 240. I think shes thinking of a non standard hold

[@Mikinct]

If one hits the Fix at a 30 degree angle to the Outbound leg which would be 090 degrees- yes it would be a heading of 060 degrees. After flying that heading for 1 minute you make a right hand turn using your Turn Coordinator until you arrive at your inbound on a 270 degree heading towards the fix. You'll notice your VOR localizer confirming you're now back on the 270 inbound to fix.

[@indigoairlines7912]

Thanks...Martha Mam....you are great

[@famamaes]

Great explanation, awesome as always! Thanks for sharing!

[@KingSchools]

Glad you liked it!

[@raphaelrico1584]

Thank you and God Bless 🙏😇

[@aviationobsession777]

Very useful instructional video about holding pattern 😊

[@hakanmertakyüz]

Pure presentatıon. Thank you 🎉

[@paulmcphie1596]

Here in Australia the sector entries are printed on individual APP plate.

[@rondon9897]

Genius why they don’t do that everywhere I do not know

[@leslyrodriguez5862]

Gracias, lo hace muy fácil a la hora de vuelo!

[@VidsPhone]

As a non-ifr pilot I am assuming this is a little more complex for high speed aircraft. One minute of flight in a Cessna 172 is a world away from a minute of flight in a Learjet.

[@baliharsingh2315]

Good job

[@joecritch143]

Ya the lawyer comment too funny. A safety inspector told me once “you keep on talking and i’ll keep on writing” lol

[@KingSchools]

Hilarious! Good to keep in mind.

[@reneneckin4281]

She's great! Thank you, ma'am!

[@KingSchools]

You're very welcome!

[@Violinist_PL]

What messes my mind is why the teardrop entry couldn't be erased and replaced with a parallel entry so it would make life easier for pilots as there would be just 2 types of entry into a holding? If you look at the teardrop entry, there would be just a small right turn that would match the parallel entry basically instantly after the fix and that would make life much easier :D I would be grateful for more info regarding the reason for the teardrop entry as I find it unnecessary and confusing at this moment while having just two standard entries - Direct and Parallel would make the deal too? :)

[@garytafoya8859]

I found my soul in here!!!!! 👍🤗

[@drangpojken]

As a A330 pilot this impresses me :)

[@troyemmett3382]

That is huge! I heard there were only three buttons and one switch on the 330's.. She is good!

[@drangpojken]

Troy Emmett very true .. take off , coffee and land botton.. so easy

[@joergwiesmann4261]

....very nice !!! thank You very much !! Kinde regards from Switzerland !!

[@KingSchools]

Thank you too!

[@philipstubbs7399]

Thank you!!! You have helped me understand this so much better

[@khalidsaeed3909]

بارك الله فيك..

[@mr2646]

Awesome explanation. Thx

[@bernardgagnon6110]

I remember stressing about this when I did my multi ifr flight test back in the 90’s

[@rotass444]

Great teacher

[@KingSchools]

Thank you! 😃

[@ace-kn1mw]

Amazing, super easy. Bravo

[@KingSchools]

Thank you! 😊

[@samimaghrabi1247]

Super easy, it only took 13 minutes to explain

[@whatsyournameson7208]

🤯

[@qwert2184]

감사합니다

[@pilotactor777]

she rocks!!!

[@tanayag8997]

Very well explained 👍🏻

[@19ij]

Thank you granny.

[@aircityboutique]

good day , on the teardrop you must fly a 1 MINUTE level and then intercept the inbound. soryy . from colombia . south america.

[@betterwithrum]

I'm. So. Confused. She says to move the tail of the pencil to the left (-70) but she moved it right?! What's going on! What does fly for one minute mean?! What ACTUALLY happens if you enter the pattern however you want?

[@skyguysd6674]

Great video. Thank you!!

[@KingSchools]

Glad you liked it!

[@thisbishawesome]

hey martha at 3:23 u stated that the (red) line we drew is to the left. but we swung our pencil to the right so i thought the line is to the right of the inbound leg

[@dannylee5588]

I have a question... ATC gives the instructions as you described. Now I'm supposed to take out a pencil and start figuring out what to do next all while traveling 100 plus mph. If I'm looking down all this time isn't that fixation?

[@analogman9697]

Wondered that myself...

[@rnordquest]

Welcome to the world of IFR flying. Some pilots do it at 200 mph. You’d better be quick. There are other techniques to do this in a few seconds. Practice makes better so get better and have fun.

[@Jackjackattackboi]

The thumb method in my opinion would be best in the cockpit.

[@kennedyrogers364]

This helps so much!

[@castellopattimura682]

This helps me a lot, thank you guys i hope you guys have a great health

[@Kilgurt]

Excellent!😀

[@KingSchools]

Thanks! 😃

[@a320nick]

Hi Martha!

[@exodeus7959]

No plane, no license, no idea how I got here. But like the videos. Thanks.

[@KingSchools]

Thanks for watching!

[@AlekseySudakov]

Go Martha!

[@vogahl34]

Awesome lady!! Thanks

[@KingSchools]

You are so welcome!

[@fulcrums4067]

Thanks

[@nizarhefnawi6353]

youre awesome, thank youuuu

[@sirjosefofhessen4527]

I'm studying for my private pilot and I can see how this would apply vfr and ifr approach

[@deiwis34]

Thank You

[@KingSchools]

You're welcome

[@prosperkunihira3698]

What happens when your inbound is like 60 do you add or something different happens Thank you 🎉

[@Invisible_Socks]

Great content

[@markprange4386]

The course or heading over the fix is up to the pilot.

Thanks a lot!

[@KingSchools]

You're welcome!

[@poly_hexamethyl]

Aren't a lot of NDB's and VOR's being shut down though? I don't think there are as many as there used to be, now that most planes have GPS?

[@Arturmazzini23]

muito bom vídeo uma aula descomplicada!!

[@pbr2805]

Great but what about leaving the hold and setup to return to the arrival airport? Most of the videos leave this out.

[@josesantosBRL]

Essa velha é um barato! Gostei!

[@tac-cobserver3788]

Thanks mam 🤙

[@flemmingstelling8079]

When commencing turn on the parallel entry @ 6:50 ,cant you just make the turn straight back to the fix, instead of trying to "dilly/dally" intercepting the inbound course so close to the fix ?