Memorize Holding Pattern Entries for Good

[@jamesnelson7415]

For all those asking how to do this while flying, remember, this is an excerpt from their ground school course. It teaches the concept of holding pattern entries in a manner appropriate to understanding them and how to determine the appropriate entry while sitting in a testing center taking a written test. Once the concept is understood, there are easy, quick methods for determining proper entries using the instruments in the cockpit while in flight that don't involve drawing. With practice, those techniques become second nature in flight, but are difficult to use without the instruments in front of you: thus, drawing the hold for the written exam.

[@KingSchools]

Very good point. Thanks.

[@kbuss10]

is someone cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldnt be flying...

[@TheFlyingZulu]

​@@kbuss10 With regards to learning something or concept visualization, everybody's brain operates somewhat differently. With practice or repetition a person may or may not be able to "visualize" this in their head. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be flying because they could easily use other means to determine a holding pattern entry. If you're a DPE and fail checkrides on the basis of if they "cannot visualize this in his head, he shouldn't flying" let me know where you're based out of... I'll do my instrument checkride somewhere else!

[@kbuss10]

@@TheFlyingZulu Bro I'm a sim "pilot" on VATSIM. sadly in our country not many people can afford to fly GA for example. I'm an architect reasonably good with geometry that's okay but what I say is in the air there can be so many distractions if someone doesn't get this easily then it will be much harder in the air. but I know there is this concept in USA that basically everyone is fit to be a pilot I completely disagree with this. for example I know I would be fit to fly by myself but I wouldn't consider myself good enough to fly other people My family or paying passengers. when I think of a pilot I think of Rich from flying with rich for example

[@TheFlyingZulu]

@@kbuss10 Ahahaha you're not even a pilot telling people they can't be pilots because such and such. Stop. Just stop.

[@tomrohan8480]

She is Bob Ross of aviation

[@bayouflier6641]

very funny. Miss ol Bob

[@jreg89]

Actually, she is not

[@stevef]

Martha is a legend. She makes all of this understandable.

[@ViperDriver22]

I still love watching them, very funny and knowledgeable. Miss these folks.

[@lumurumba]

Amen to that!

[@kCI251]

Martha Lunken is a legendary bridge inspector, lol.

[@johnhasson4827]

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[@johnhasson4827]

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[@theconcorden]

I've been watching John and Martha's videos since I started my Private Pilot Cert in 1997 and I love them! They are so knowledgeable, funny and easy going. I wish I could meet them one day!

[@christopherhand4836]

A G San Diego is where you need to go

[@AT502]

I did an instrument course through them in 1987 and have also been watching them throughout the years ... they're ageless!

[@stuartw969]

20 years ago you books helped through my FAA IR course. Now my 19 year old daughter is inspired by your wonderful videos. Thank you so much!

[@KingSchools]

That is awesome!

[@ZonsoAvalune]

EXTREMELY based video. This is the best way I've heard it explained.

[@KingSchools]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Death_by_Inches]

Holy hell you made it so much easier.

[@paulmoore7635]

This wonderful lady finally made me understand holding pattern entries! Thank you !

[@KingSchools]

You are so welcome!

[@VidsPhone]

As a non-ifr pilot I am assuming this is a little more complex for high speed aircraft. One minute of flight in a Cessna 172 is a world away from a minute of flight in a Learjet.

[@olivialeakidd]

I love her energy thank you queen

[@Cys62]

Piece of cake... yeah .... right... It took me quite sometime, to figure out exactly what she meant... after watching several other videos. Great video though, and thank you..

[@Leonardo_davinci_]

Oh my Gosh amazing ! I had her as my Virtual Flight Instructor in Microsoft Flight Simulator 😄😄😢😍

[@redglazedeyez6652]

How did you do that

[@holobolo1661]

@@redglazedeyez6652 FS2002 I think, it was included by default

[@ravenmorillo4344]

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[@terryanderson7316]

Terrific presentation and simplified well. I enjoyed it, thank you!

[@aviatortrevor]

My rule is: 1) If it looks direct, it is direct. Otherwise... 2) When I cross the fix, am I leaving the fix into the protected area or away from the protected area? If it's into the protected area, it's a teardrop. If it's away from the protected side, it's a parallel.

[@KingSchools]

Nice rule, makes it simple.

[@pfsantos007]

Here cuz of FS2004. Practicing pattern entries in the lessons. Love you guys.

[@sirrevzalot]

I seriously LOLed at the lawyer comment 😄 The eyes said there was a story behind that. Too funny 😂👍

[@betterwithrum]

I'm. So. Confused. She says to move the tail of the pencil to the left (-70) but she moved it right?! What's going on! What does fly for one minute mean?! What ACTUALLY happens if you enter the pattern however you want?

[@keithdmello]

Excellent! I remember watching King schools back in the day.

[@Pushyhog]

l walked by hanger one day at montgomery and wavied at both of ya! thanks for the years.

[@KingSchools]

Rock on!

[@multibucker]

I like Martha.

[@paulmcphie1596]

Here in Australia the sector entries are printed on individual APP plate.

[@rondon9897]

Genius why they don’t do that everywhere I do not know

[@GeorgeRon]

Wow, takes a little bit of getting used to. I'm self-teaching holding patterns at the moment, glad I found this video right away as a start.

[@thatweldingguy556]

Such a difficult time remembering this. This explanation is absolutely spot on. I fully grasp and understand hold entries now. I feel guilty I learned this on KZbin. Thank you so much!!!

[@KingSchools]

You're very welcome!

[@samimaghrabi1247]

Super easy, it only took 13 minutes to explain

[@whatsyournameson7208]

🤯

[@dannylee5588]

I have a question... ATC gives the instructions as you described. Now I'm supposed to take out a pencil and start figuring out what to do next all while traveling 100 plus mph. If I'm looking down all this time isn't that fixation?

[@analogman9697]

Wondered that myself...

[@rnordquest]

Welcome to the world of IFR flying. Some pilots do it at 200 mph. You’d better be quick. There are other techniques to do this in a few seconds. Practice makes better so get better and have fun.

[@donovangilesx]

The thumb method in my opinion would be best in the cockpit.

[@stuartw969]

20 years ago your wonderful book helped me through my FAA IR. Now my 19 year old daughter is an avidly keen student of your videos. Congratulations and thank you!

[@KingSchools]

Wow, thank you!

[@djdalite]

Tear drop entry on standard turns: 30 degree angle to your outbound leg giving you 060 on your heading when you hit the fix, if you did from inbound you would turn to a heading of 240. I think shes thinking of a non standard hold

[@Mikinct]

If one hits the Fix at a 30 degree angle to the Outbound leg which would be 090 degrees- yes it would be a heading of 060 degrees. After flying that heading for 1 minute you make a right hand turn using your Turn Coordinator until you arrive at your inbound on a 270 degree heading towards the fix. You'll notice your VOR localizer confirming you're now back on the 270 inbound to fix.

[@ginoasci2876]

i was watching how to sharpen carbide blades, how did i end up here.

[@Cheickstar001]

Subscribed immediately after the second video. You explain so well. Thank you very much

[@francescocandian2708]

Martha you're simply the best. Honestly!

[@KingSchools]

Wow, thank you!

[@ttmich]

I have watched many training videos and Kings is the best. She is clearly an excellent instructor: speak clearly, easy to understand and make it easy to remember. My school requires me to study the videos posted on KZbin and I dislike them so much: the instructors are very much reading out from the text book at the normal speaking speeds. The instructor also gave the VOR Holding instruction like the ATC, but at much faster speed that I usually hear the real ATC giving instructions. In studying from the reading materials, you need to read slowly the IFR lessons, or any technical lessons, highlight sentences and digesting the ideas. Teaching IFR by reading out the writing materials for students is a bad teaching method. Stick with the Kings training because they are the best. I got the DVD training from them!

[@GrumpyOldMan9]

@GrumpyOldMan9 1 second ago "Folks" is derived from the Dutch "volks", which means "related to common people"

[@harveydent7559]

This probably the best explanation. I like the pencil technique and remembering 70 degrees is simple, thx!

[@myfloormats]

She says the tail must move to the right but she is moves it to the left???.I came in one point that 80%of pilots are not understanding the holding pattern .She is totally confusing.At first you think Oh my God this what I am looking for.Ccoming on the FAA test let's say (hold NE Bozmen Vor 262 redial .left turns.and you are heading 155. Now if you understood what is she saying find the entry of this ATC hold request.Pleas do not get me wrong I have nothing against her I just don't want students struggle to understand the entry types.I was expecting the real explanation but didn't got it.Good lock.

[@exodeus7959]

No plane, no license, no idea how I got here. But like the videos. Thanks.

[@KingSchools]

Thanks for watching!

[@omarkhodary2221]

I still can’t understand the subject

[@rknine7998]

Wasn't this lady the same one who was in flight simulator 2000?

[@johndowd605]

Yes it was. You have excellent recall.

[@pilotactor777]

she rocks!!!

[@thisbishawesome]

hey martha at 3:23 u stated that the (red) line we drew is to the left. but we swung our pencil to the right so i thought the line is to the right of the inbound leg

[@corbensumner3720]

This is an excellent video with a very concise explanation of the topic. I will be recommending this to fellow IFR students.

[@Biggles2498]

I wish I had known this 30 years ago doing my CAA Instrument Rating As Martha makes it so simple ! I think this Special Lady is (or was John I think) the Wife of a Great Instructor who made loads of videos FAA based and turned complicated crosswind landings into a "Sport" without all the BS in the Books. I bought every tape back then from the USA and even my CAA Examiner said my Performance in the air was drastically improved from average simply by watching the videos religiously !

[@Tom-mu7zy]

She has a very good presentation. Now lets translate this into the cockpit. I use my gyro compass as my chalkboard. In my compass picture I am always coming from the bottom of the compass towards the top and I imagine the holding fix in the middle of the compass card. Understand, I am always coming up from the bottom and the holding pattern rotates around the compass card. For example, you are northbound to the fix. 360 is the top of my picture. The hold is given as, "Hold NE on the 030 radial of ABC VOR, right turns." Find the 030 in the upper right of the compass card and finger or pencil point a line from the 030 in toward the center of the card. That is my navigation inbound leg (210 inbound). Now having fingered to the center where we imagine the VOR to be, make a right (CLOCKWISE) 180 degree turn, and go out towards the edge of the compass card parallel to the inbound leg. The hold is above the navigation leg so you are going to be flying into the holding side of the navigation leg when you cross the VOR. It looks like you have a perfect teardrop entry. If you can see this on the compass card you are already oriented for the problem. If the turns were left turns, your finger would have gone counter clockwise at the fix and outbound would now be below the line. Looks like you are heading towards the non holding side as you cross the VOR. This would require an immediate right turn to parallel the inbound leg and fly 030 then a right turn back to the fix for a parallel entry. Remember you are always flying up from the bottom of your compass card. The holding pattern rotates around the card. And if you can finger it, you can fly it. When my students can talk me through 6 different holds on a printed compass card at the briefing table in less than a minute, it was time to go fly. 20,000 TT 5000 CFII

[@nizarhefnawi6353]

youre awesome, thank youuuu

[@xcifer]

The kind of grandma we all want!

[@KingSchools]

:)

[@aircityboutique]

good day , on the teardrop you must fly a 1 MINUTE level and then intercept the inbound. soryy . from colombia . south america.

[@jasongoodman8158]

Nice lady....If you guys are watching KZbin vids to learn.....🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Hans_Magnusson]

This is a classic company… However I was taught that by the squadron commander of the Swedish Air Force display squadron… Then something about TFHS and ATP. You figure it out. I know shit about aircraft, flying and navigation…

[@hykuzo]

Lady you are fire! Best joke of the video was that my tears are little, after G-nav (EASA) i can say that they are not...

[@patrickwilliams2554]

Miss your a champion , please do not stop uploading! I love all your videos.

[@KingSchools]

Thanks so much!

[@FWDSlip]

Regretting why I purchased the Sporty's Instrument, disaster! Great video, I'm going to remember this forever!

[@famamaes]

Great explanation, awesome as always! Thanks for sharing!

[@KingSchools]

Glad you liked it!

[@josesantosBRL]

Essa velha é um barato! Gostei!

[@billmastorakis2137]

Martha is a national treasure.

[@Dogface1984]

Martha helped get me a PPL with instrument rating. You a real one for that Martha!

[@Mcphaterson]

John and Martha = the OGs of aviation education!

[@KingSchools]

;)

[@JEK134]

Unable, DME is broke sir, I would like to cancel my IFR flight plan and request flight following to Lake Charles.

[@paulb5125]

I love your tutorials and I am learning so much from you. when you said super easy I spit my coffee out and I love it!

[@KingSchools]

Awesome! Thank you! (Clean up on aisle 5..)

[@joelmulder]

This was difficult, until I saw it explained here visually. When you did the example with the victor airway, I worked it out and got it correct before you worked through it on my first try. When something just clicks like that, it’s the best feeling in the world! Fantastic explanation of how to do this on paper, thank you!

[@KingSchools]

So glad to hear it has clicked for you! It does feel good.

[@TYFRYTYPHOON]

Oh this takes me back... KZbin algorithm tormenting me! Shudder remembering on first seeing all this in the IR... or I Urghhhh as we called it.

[@flemmingstelling8079]

When commencing turn on the parallel entry @ 6:50 ,cant you just make the turn straight back to the fix, instead of trying to "dilly/dally" intercepting the inbound course so close to the fix ?

[@poly_hexamethyl]

Aren't a lot of NDB's and VOR's being shut down though? I don't think there are as many as there used to be, now that most planes have GPS?

[@FTroop37F]

I'll have to watch it again but I think I have a far better handle on this now. Thank you

[@tofesky]

Bleesed

[@joergwiesmann4261]

....very nice !!! thank You very much !! Kinde regards from Switzerland !!

[@KingSchools]

Thank you too!

[@prosperkunihira3698]

What happens when your inbound is like 60 do you add or something different happens Thank you 🎉

[@baliharsingh2315]

Good job

[@joecritch143]

Ya the lawyer comment too funny. A safety inspector told me once “you keep on talking and i’ll keep on writing” lol

[@KingSchools]

Hilarious! Good to keep in mind.

[@MrMrsernie]

I also purchased the King's school garmin 1000 training module. It's terrific!

[@KingSchools]

Thanks so much! Glad you like it.

[@poly_hexamethyl]

I really like her explanations. Very helpful, thanks!

[@hocinebouzina4476]

Super easy, with a Super Teacher, Thanks.

[@gustavofelippe3605]

Very good explanation, but in reality you don't use all of that math.. believe me

[@AyushGupta-ki6pg]

nicely explained❤

[@KingSchools]

Thanks a lot 😊

[@indigoairlines7912]

Thanks...Martha Mam....you are great

[@matszz]

As a non pilot, flying against the traffic in the holding pattern for the parallel approach seems extremely unsafe. Any pilot here who can explain this?

[@DrzewieckiDesign]

Only one aircraft at a particular altitude can use the particular holding pattern. If there are more aircraft, they are altitude-separated. Martha is a legend indeed!!

[@mrfofa09]

All airplanes in a holding pattern have 1000 feet of vertical separation. If you enter a hold at 5000 feet, you are the only airplane at 5000 feet.

[@jeffhanes2304]

ATC have several means of separating traffic that may conflict. They are altitude and speed. They may meter the speed of aircraft in trail of holding aircraft and or hold aircraft over a fix at an altitude that does not conflict. This can be observed on bad weather days on busy arrival corridors where multiple aircraft are holding at the same fix at different altitudes. Typically 2000’ of altitude separation.

[@matszz]

@@jeffhanes2304 Was this an answer to my question?

[@jeffhanes2304]

@@matszz yes

[@raphaelrico1584]

Thank you and God Bless 🙏😇

[@garysgroundschool4739]

Lady bob ross really just helped me learn holding patterns for good. God bless

[@KingSchools]

"Lady Bob Ross" - Amazing

[@ahmadtheaviationlover1937]

@@KingSchools your explanations are just amazing!! Thanks you so much

[@mr2646]

Awesome explanation. Thx

[@charlesthomas1159]

HOORAY ! FOR JOHN AND MARTHA KING .

[@qwert2184]

감사합니다

[@capt.Mo.]

hi, i am looking for ATC instructions for a DME ARC. Different types of instructions to expect. can you help me out please?

[@nevillec5252]

Do you mean ATC instructions given to a pilot for a DMC Arc? Or how to give DMC Arc instructions as a controller? Either way, suggest you look at UND ATC-cast from the Univ of North Dakota.

[@capt.Mo.]

@@nevillec5252 do you mind giving me the link..thank you sir

[@leslyrodriguez5862]

Gracias, lo hace muy fácil a la hora de vuelo!

[@doozledorf7036]

Why keep talking about FAA???? The internet is NOT JUST AMERICANS TALK BIUT OUR COUNTRY TOO

[@Bendigo1]

If you are looking for instructions based on your country's rules, look for videos made in your country.

[@ginoasci2876]

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[@ginoasci2876]

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[@ginoasci2876]

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[@ginoasci2876]

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[@drangpojken]

As a A330 pilot this impresses me :)

[@troyemmett3382]

That is huge! I heard there were only three buttons and one switch on the 330's.. She is good!

[@drangpojken]

Troy Emmett very true .. take off , coffee and land botton.. so easy

[@ginoasci2876]

i was watching how to sharpen carbide blades. how did i end up here.

[@ginoasci2876]

i was watching how to sharpen carbide blades. how did i end up here

[@jonathanmoore9661]

Who is flying the airplane while this gets figured out?

[@pfsantos007]

The pilot. Seriously, though, you do, if flying by yourself. Takes repeated studying and practicing. Not easy, that's why there are many wannabe pilots. Myself included. I'm here from FS2004, doing pattern entries with King schools teaching.

[@hakanmertakyüz]

Pure presentatıon. Thank you 🎉

[@katateo328]

hahah, thiet la mac cuoi :D:D:D co len phat xit cho nai nazi mat dauy

[@rogermoore27]

1:03 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@redglazedeyez6652]

Ffs couldn't they make approaches easier...just swing round to the airport

[@dhammikejayawickrama4736]

2:53 You say the pencil is right of the line and we need to swing it to the right but you move the pencil to the left, am i not understanding this right? This has been a very confusing topic for me and would appreciate a response on this.

[@KingSchools]

We did swing the tail of the pencil to the right in this example...

[@miklskyw5514]

Unbelievable easy👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻✈️❤

[@gerrycarmichael1391]

Forget about the parallel entry. A tear drop will work any time a parallel would be called for. The last time I ever did a parallel entry was my instrument check ride 35 years ago. Brain dumped it immediately after that. (I'm a 30,000 hr ATP with 5 type ratings.)

[@rotass444]

Great teacher

[@KingSchools]

Thank you! 😃

[@Kilgurt]

Excellent!😀

[@KingSchools]

Thanks! 😃

[@deiwis34]

Thank You

[@KingSchools]

You're welcome