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@nolanturek3295
@nolanturek3295 Жыл бұрын
As a CFII. I highly approve these methods.
@marleyb5479
@marleyb5479 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I cant thank you enough for this content. I'm currently doing my IFR training and the way you teach these topics are helping me tremendously. This channel is amazing and ill be sure to recommend it to others! You're a very good teacher and this content is far better than anything out there. Thanks again:)
@bernauadventures
@bernauadventures 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@MrThundercat1989
@MrThundercat1989 Жыл бұрын
Can’t more agree on that. Should have done my training in the US not in Germany😅
@RambowMusik
@RambowMusik Жыл бұрын
​@MrThundercat1989 do you think your training is subpar? Im a german PPL and always thinking about the differences
@domanigonzalez7139
@domanigonzalez7139 Жыл бұрын
fr . being a pilot is too expensive to fail lessons, thanks for videos like these that teach better than some CFI’s
@Sam-gl8su
@Sam-gl8su 3 жыл бұрын
Hey FlightInsight! New sub here, I’ve just graduated PPL school, and currently studying for my IFR written, I’ve spend lots of money on different programs and online ground schools, until I came across your channel, this is absolutely unbelievable that this material is free of charge, you’re calm soothing voice and clarity is one of a kind, I’ve been watching all of your instrument related vids multiple times, it’s a pure pleasure learning and studying now! I beyond appreciate your work and can’t thank you enough, keep up all the great work! ✌️
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sam. This might be one of the most thoughtful comments and pieces of feedback I've gotten. Glad to be able to help out!
@oopsiedaisy1735
@oopsiedaisy1735 5 ай бұрын
coming from a new ifr student who thought I could not possibly be any more overwhelmed after private pilot, i like all the videos out here on the internet and they help to keep me just a little bit less anxious about feeling just completely stupid about being a pilot. after specifically looking into holding patterns from some of the other big aviation content creators and (quote/unquote) CFIs, not only your concept but the way you present it makes the most sense. these other CFI's have these nice pretty graphics and show how you carve out the radial-pie, but almost none of that translates to actually doing this in the cockpit. thumbs? math? correcting for wind? talking with atc over and over again? breifing my approach? i understand we need to do math from time to time, but from what i understand about this rating I am pursuing that it is in my best interest to have to do the least amount of math possible with the 50 other things I will need to be doing for just one approach. simple really is better. the more we can uncomplicate something or find a shortcut that does not the end result, the better off we will be.
@makkavalley9144
@makkavalley9144 Жыл бұрын
Dude you’re phenomenal. I’ve been struggling with these for months and you’ve made me come to a solid understanding of holds in 5 minutes
@cesarmo469
@cesarmo469 9 ай бұрын
I get it, but I don’t get it. Need much more practice.
@makkavalley9144
@makkavalley9144 9 ай бұрын
@@cesarmo469 maybe this can help. Always draw to the fix. Then draw left or right depending on direction. The line told to hold on will be the line parallel to the initial line drawn to the fix
@TridentCapital
@TridentCapital Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Where most students get messed up here is that you must be on a heading to the fix before you begin drawing (or visualizing your hold).
@dieselyeti
@dieselyeti 5 ай бұрын
Yup, I had to watch the first part of the video for that part to sink in.
@hectorzambrano4092
@hectorzambrano4092 Ай бұрын
I've heard about holding patterns and their entries before, and only now did I finally understand the whole concept like magic.
@Tom-mu7zy
@Tom-mu7zy 9 ай бұрын
I taught this exact methodology since the late 70"s. Your visual presentation is absolutely perfect.
@ShaneSchmidt
@ShaneSchmidt 2 жыл бұрын
I can not believe that you - in 9 minutes - fixed a very real issue I have had for years, visualizing holds and hold entries without some type of support diagram, chart or drawing. The hand method also was lost on me and real world holds are so few and far between, that practice is minimal. A most sincere thank you! Love your library, but this is one of my favorites.
@abbieamavi
@abbieamavi Жыл бұрын
I think this is my new favorite method! A sincere thanks from a CFI, studying for my CFII to better explain the common trouble spots for my future students 😄
@amisimon
@amisimon 29 күн бұрын
I am not an instructor or even a student for that matter, I only play MSFS with VATSIM but an IFR simulator (on browsers or on a phone) is really useful to practice and i highly recommend it
@thecorporatepilotdad
@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын
When I taught instrument students 15+ years ago it was very easy to use a screw, obs knob, or some spot on the panel as the fix and visualize the hold around that spot. That spot was the holding fix which is always and the end of the inbound leg, figure left or right turns, then determine the direction from the fix to get the entry quickly. A helpful exercise I did with students was to flip from one approach plate to the next approach (on the ground), pick a spot on the plate and ask the entry type to the hold for the missed approach. Being able to know the entry without thinking about it is key.
@douglashughes3974
@douglashughes3974 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe the amount of agony experienced attempting to learn this hold. So many online instructors claiming that their method is the easiest or the simplest. Even the online school I purchased couldn't make it happen. BUT YOU, SIR, DID IT for me! I printed a copy of a heading indicator and simply followed along with you. Also, because the presentation moves to quickly (it's me, not you) for my brain to comprehend, I went to 'settings' and slowed the speed of the presentation to 75%. Thank you!!
@limejuise
@limejuise 4 ай бұрын
I have been teaching this method for thirty years! ( Before iPhones and KZbin!!) The simlest method of figuring out your hold entry in seconds. Having said that other methods work for other brains
@BillLeonard-c8s
@BillLeonard-c8s 11 ай бұрын
My technique from 40+ years making a living in the cockpit: Cross the fix and turn the closes direction to your out bound heading, do not turn through the teardrop. Turn inbound at appropriate time and either interceptor or proceed direct to the fix and adjust outbound leg for drift. TERPS provides clear space on holding and nonholding side of course for maneuvering .
@sky173
@sky173 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how I haven't found this channel earlier. Thanks for all this useful information. It's a goldmine.
@blip9413
@blip9413 2 жыл бұрын
This by far is the most concise, practical tutorial for determining holding pattern entries. Sure, there are thumb rules out there, but they are easy to forget. This one is hardwired into my brain. Bravo!!!!
@RamiElias-jx2we
@RamiElias-jx2we Жыл бұрын
So far this is the easiest and fastest visual method I've seen. Thank you very much for sharing this information
@Kevin-438
@Kevin-438 7 күн бұрын
One thing I found that helped me during my instrument training was that teardrop entries fly into the circle or into the protected side. Parallels fly into (slightly) the unprotected side. And directs are just directs. But during private when I was doing instrument ground school this was so complicated lol. After I started flying and looking at them more it got a lot easier.
@flyboyrog3713
@flyboyrog3713 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and come here often. I only teach two hold entries...direct and indirect. The indirect hold is simply a course reversal like a procedure turn on an approach. Makes things much simpler and there becomes only one maneuver you need to master instead of three. Simple cut the racetrack in half at the fix. Anything on the "long" side is a direct entry, anything on the "short" side is an indirect. Fly outbound 1 minute, 45 degree turn 1 minute, 180 degree turn (magically a minute at standard rate), then intercept inbound. But hey....that's my method but it works. Keep 'em coming!!
@larajinn
@larajinn 2 жыл бұрын
I think that this is the one of the best videos to fly a holding but it seems to me that without the CDI aligned we cannot find the TEARDROP, it works good with PARALLEL & DIRECT but not with the TEARDROP . I am amazed, thank you sir
Ай бұрын
This is the best video about holding entries what I've ever seen. Thank you very much for your method which is very easy and useful.🙏 Now I can always do it correctly and without confusions. I really appreciate your method and recommend it to everyone!👍
@AviAeroAsis
@AviAeroAsis 2 жыл бұрын
Best video to learn practical holding method. Using it for a decade. Nice.
@abrahamnemani3907
@abrahamnemani3907 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you are awesome. The only thing I would have added was how to depict the hold 3 areas are on the VOR prior to determining the type of hold. I know from experience this is a challenge for the novice pilots myself included.
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is the hard part, not actually making the entry and flying the hold, especially on the check ride when the examiner may give you a hold that is very close to the official FAA breakpoint between one entry type and another. Knowing the actual heading breakpoints and how to select the “FAA correct” entry is key and this video unfortunately omitted that most difficult part.
@abrahamnemani3907
@abrahamnemani3907 2 жыл бұрын
@@LTVoyager I have come up with the following formula to figure out the type of HOLD for myself. It may sound crazy but if you practice it becomes easy both in flight as well as the written test. Stop the video at 2:29 for the visual and do the following formula. Left +, Right - (Left Turn add, Right Turn subtract in the formula below). In this example obviously we are doing a right hand turn Inbound - 70= Tear Drop 060 - 70 = 350 (The area between 350 -060) Inbound + 110 = Parallel 060 + 110 = 170 (The area between 060 - 170) The rest will be Direct 170 - 350 Hope this helped.
@aaronrivera5134
@aaronrivera5134 2 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamnemani3907 where do you get the numbers you’re using to add/ subtract so the (70) and the (110)?
@abrahamnemani3907
@abrahamnemani3907 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronrivera5134 A formula that I came up with. You need to subtract 70 for Right pattern and add for Left pattern from the inbound leg to get the Tear Drop area. Then add 110 to get the Parallel area. The rest would give you the Direct area. Try to draw this and hopefully it makes sense.
@keithdmello
@keithdmello 2 жыл бұрын
Excellently explained in practical terms. This is exactly how I do it.
@catdaddy8603
@catdaddy8603 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! I'm studying for the FII written and this helped me tremendously.
@wicked1172
@wicked1172 Жыл бұрын
This approach is very logical, and works the best for me.
@alexx8708
@alexx8708 10 ай бұрын
Simply amazing. What a gem of video, very precise and simple explanation! Im feeling much more confident facing my training after this great video Thank you so much!!!
@ahmadsamadzai8255
@ahmadsamadzai8255 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, I can't thank you enough for these tutorials. You are the best.
@G4STON-IV
@G4STON-IV Ай бұрын
Great video. Super clear and easy way to understand the three entries to hold patterns. Thanks!
@josephwhite4716
@josephwhite4716 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great! I took a week off training because I was sick, and when I came back I made both of your “Don’t” mistakes that you mentioned 😅Going through your videos once more
@ansel_av2887
@ansel_av2887 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!... The feeling of euphoria of comprehending how to enter a hold is amazing. I can truly picture how I would do it. The diagrams I've seen with no headings and the written explanations just didn't do it for me. I couldn't comprehend what entry was correct. Turns out they aren't that hard at all! I even made a paper heading indicator to practice hold entries with to see what I would do. Thank you, again!
@aviatortrucker6285
@aviatortrucker6285 Жыл бұрын
Like all content required for educational purposes, theory puts a lot mind bending scenarios where many tend to over think. In the real world it becomes easier as you do it. The FAA won’t care what kind of entry you do in real life, but they do care on their tests. I remember having to calculate magnetic bearings with the ADF comparing with the actual heading. There used to be actual holds off the NDB. (Hold NE on the 030 bearing, left turns, Expect further clearance 19:30.) A lot of the new pilots would really be blown away on how that worked. Thank goodness technology is taking us from that realm. FlightInsight is the best and easiest way to understand. Many of the knowledge is required for passing all that written test. Great job.
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 7 ай бұрын
Those NDB holds had obstacle-free buffer areas that were absolutely massive because of nav error tolerances. Proceedure designers hated them because the placement and altitude were so limited due to terrain (At least in semi-mountainous areas.)
@MatiasMunoz87
@MatiasMunoz87 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir ....almost ready to take the written test for ifr....
@AdamGoodsellOfficial
@AdamGoodsellOfficial Жыл бұрын
10x better than sporty's yet again. Absolutely nailing it!
@stephenstead7270
@stephenstead7270 Жыл бұрын
This make sense better than finger and thumb great video mate thank you
@jorgemorillo2588
@jorgemorillo2588 2 жыл бұрын
Simple to understand, thank you for being straightforward without overwhelming everyone. Kudos!!!
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade 2 жыл бұрын
I was not taught this method in my training, but I still came up with it on my own.
@cyrouskhavari969
@cyrouskhavari969 Жыл бұрын
I an glad that, I am not only one that doesnt understands the " thumb method " I find it quite confusing, if anything. I will leave it at that.
@pedrorivera5057
@pedrorivera5057 Жыл бұрын
Great video just got my PPL and Working on IFR this video help a lot
@frankwang81
@frankwang81 9 ай бұрын
dude ,awesome teaching! this is the best one illustrating holding pattern online. thank you so much!
@ehsan83
@ehsan83 Жыл бұрын
your content is amazing. Learned something new today and guess what. I'm not even a pilot. Thank you so much
@andrewellis2269
@andrewellis2269 3 жыл бұрын
Most precise and simple explanation on this topic. Liked and subscribed. Thank you!
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew. Many more IFR videos coming your way with that subscription!
@davidcole4988
@davidcole4988 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've used a similar method myself for years with one slight modification. I bug the inbound course and treat that as the fix rather than the airplane in the center. If you draw your hold off the heading bug at the edge, you remove the ambiguity you mentioned related to confusing the inbound and outbound course.
@francescovella9617
@francescovella9617 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation thank you.. I thought I was the only one to not understand the thumb method
@stephdachef
@stephdachef Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this clever technique.. I'm going to go try this in the plane now.
@kmv7776
@kmv7776 3 ай бұрын
This is the vid that made it click. Thank you!
@pilotchoi5596
@pilotchoi5596 Жыл бұрын
Best video for aviation ever!!🎉
@A-A_Z
@A-A_Z 3 жыл бұрын
the best channel ON KZbin great job man !
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 3 жыл бұрын
Wow high praise for these wonky little videos, thanks so much!
@talreichert
@talreichert 2 жыл бұрын
Experienced IFR pilot here, but nonetheless, this is extremely useful. Keep up the good work!
@packergolfer4
@packergolfer4 Жыл бұрын
Really good. Finally something clicks with this horrendous topic lol. Thanks so much
@PilotParker
@PilotParker Жыл бұрын
Your videos are a life saver. Thank you my guy!
@PRGanapathy
@PRGanapathy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant technique - thanks!
@flyingfish4926
@flyingfish4926 Жыл бұрын
Excellent channel with so many good videos. I dont understand this video though. It explains very well how to do the 3 different entries but i dont think it explains how to determine which one to use.
@FlyingPlaneAndSimple
@FlyingPlaneAndSimple 2 жыл бұрын
I like this. I notice that at 4:10 it seems a lot easier (through wrong I guess) to continue that left turn into a teardrop.
@philipdias5106
@philipdias5106 2 жыл бұрын
Not wrong legally you can enter any way you want as long as you remain on the protected side of the fix. This is just technique.
@tsekeithable
@tsekeithable 6 ай бұрын
Wonderful explanation, thank you so much !
@swagmaster827
@swagmaster827 Жыл бұрын
Watched this 8 months ago for my instrument check ride now I’m re watching it 8 months later to review for my ii check ride
@rickoramasldu2001
@rickoramasldu2001 8 ай бұрын
Great video man it helps me a lot, one question: we always have to make a homing to the station to determine our holding right?
@alanmurphy30
@alanmurphy30 6 ай бұрын
Amazing video. Do you have any videos or links for DME holdings for when holding for example 9NM from a VOR
@jameskay6550
@jameskay6550 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! This is so helpful!!!
@davyandrewbruce
@davyandrewbruce 10 ай бұрын
This was extremely helpful! Thank you!
@CamViesky
@CamViesky Жыл бұрын
just saved me several bottles of Advil. Thank you
@gregagee4328
@gregagee4328 Жыл бұрын
I've watched this video ton to finally understand. I get it, but I guess visualizing in the air is going to take some practice!! Do you not use that 3 segmented pie to help determine which entry to use? On a side note, what software do you use to make these awesome animations? They are so helpful in making confusing concepts simpler and you do a great job with it!
@vittoriafiorentini8276
@vittoriafiorentini8276 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Please more videos like this
@earnedwings5206
@earnedwings5206 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you this was very easy to understand!
@ricardofogel671
@ricardofogel671 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these diagrams much easier to understand. This method, " placing your pencil on the holding fix and dragging it on the holding radial given by ATC, then returning back to the fix." Still confuses me and leaves room for errors during parallel and teardrop entries.
@raccoonair
@raccoonair 3 жыл бұрын
Great graphics, makes it clear... well done!
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have your eye on the vids as always!
@texasman123
@texasman123 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Super helpful.
@CTTechGaming
@CTTechGaming 2 жыл бұрын
this is very useful, I am starting to learn these, one thing is how do you know what speed you should do when using the 1 min timer?
@erickarruda1339
@erickarruda1339 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot... pretty easy to understand...
@raychandler116
@raychandler116 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this; it really helps me visualize how to enter the holds. Q: How can I adapt this for NDBs where all I get is the system telling me where the transmitter is relative to my position? Ray in the UK.
@jwabss
@jwabss 2 жыл бұрын
You are THE BEST !
@jakew9887
@jakew9887 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. Thanks
@BenderPY
@BenderPY 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@pegballou9629
@pegballou9629 2 жыл бұрын
After a recent checkride our DPE emphasized that once the opposite side of the hold is reached, turn back immediately to the fix. Don’t follow the hold shape outbound as depicted on the GPS or iPad. On passing the hold the second time, you’re “in the hold”. The first part is an entry yo the hold.
@pegballou9629
@pegballou9629 2 жыл бұрын
This is for the teardrop.
@raffialexanian
@raffialexanian Жыл бұрын
Your vids are the absolute best. Just a question. What if the instructions are hold north eat of the vor on the 240 radial? Is that possible? If yes, would that change anything?
@tobylong3725
@tobylong3725 2 жыл бұрын
Easy as pie. Thanks for that.
@jimmybond2382
@jimmybond2382 Жыл бұрын
Love this video
@flybouy11
@flybouy11 2 жыл бұрын
CFII for twenty years. For even more fun hold at the NDB.
@marcellusherrod
@marcellusherrod Жыл бұрын
Game-changer.
@calebatha7133
@calebatha7133 Жыл бұрын
From my understanding this method requires that you are flying a heading direct to the fix. With a made up fix off of a VOR radial, you would have to use the gps to place a point at the specified DME and then turn direct. After this is done you can then draw the imaginary hold shape on the heading indicator. Maybe I am wrong?
@derekec
@derekec 2 жыл бұрын
Rusty. Need to swallow my pride and start from scratch. This seems the best method. I never liked the "opposite hand" method - just kind of gummed up my view of the DG with my hand in the way.
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I never really got the hand method. I hope this helps! Best of luck in IFR training
@davidl4097
@davidl4097 6 ай бұрын
The parallel entry.. does it matter if you turn left or right to intercept the inbound course?
@CallMeBrunner
@CallMeBrunner Жыл бұрын
What about holding patterns that are right at the limit between two entry types. Say holding on the 178 Radial (I know ATC won't give you holds like this, but they're sometime published on Charts). I believe that 'broken' radials make it hard to transpose mentally on the instrument. Would you say this is still the preferred method of obtaining the correct entry? Don't you need to do the math for those fringe cases? What's your opinion?
@eltomas3634
@eltomas3634 Жыл бұрын
It's easy once you decide if you can make a direct entry or not. So do that first. Once you decide that you can't make a direct entry, then you only have two choices, teardrop or parallel. So first, you can easily see if you can make a direct entry by drawing a long line perpendicular to the radial (90 degrees) that runs directly through the fix and across the body of the hold and cuts perpendicular through the outbound leg. Basically you draw a line that cuts the turn off and separates it from the rest of the hold. Now, on one side of that line you made is all the direct entries. On the other side is the parallels or teardrops. You can easily see how it would be easy to make a direct entry from anywhere on one side of that line. 180 degrees are direct entries, the other 180 degrees are either teardrops or parallels. So once you know it's not direct, you have to decide either teardrop or parallel. So now, just look at what would happen if you flew to the fix and kept going straight. If you kept going straight, your flight path would either take you into the body of the hold or take you outside the body of the hold. If it takes you outside, it's a parallel entry. If going straight would take you inside the body of the hold, it's a teardrop entry. It's that simple. Find out which half is direct first, then if you can't do direct, just see where you are after crossing the fix to decide if it's teardrop or parallel. Inside teardrop, outside parallel. If your path is directly opposite of the inbound leg, then it's always parallel.
@CallMeBrunner
@CallMeBrunner Жыл бұрын
@@eltomas3634 Hi Tomas, Thanks for the insights!
@pilotguy8685
@pilotguy8685 2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for this!!
@advancedyodeler8220
@advancedyodeler8220 5 ай бұрын
How do you know the intercept heading for the parallel entry?
@jimburford4535
@jimburford4535 11 ай бұрын
at 4:38 explain how the inbound is determined when in the cockpit 530 outbound course ? is that a bearing or a heading
@manmohanchechi4292
@manmohanchechi4292 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much.... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@shantalba2385
@shantalba2385 3 жыл бұрын
great video!!1
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@rafeaalharby3580
@rafeaalharby3580 2 жыл бұрын
If he gives me an imaginary fix with the following instruction. “Hold southwest radial 210, 10 DME, 1 min leg”. Do I still center the needle and go direct to the vor and then I can determine the type of entry OR do I place the 210 radial and intercept it and then determine my entry?
@JohnPilling-v6v
@JohnPilling-v6v 8 ай бұрын
Just curious about why you said oops at the end there
@Feedback4Utoday
@Feedback4Utoday Жыл бұрын
do you not have an error in saying hold northEast of the vor..... then you draw the hold north West of it?? otherwise very helpful Thanks
@dr.dansgarage
@dr.dansgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Well done
@deanzhou4858
@deanzhou4858 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much!
@flightinsight9111
@flightinsight9111 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Xuan!
@thomaspreston8278
@thomaspreston8278 11 ай бұрын
Is the parallel part of the parallel entry supposed to be done outside the protected area? I’ve been taught so far to perform the parallel leg inside of the hood, on the protected side. Genuinely curious.
@thomaspreston8278
@thomaspreston8278 11 ай бұрын
4:53
@pranabgill1310
@pranabgill1310 7 ай бұрын
Little confused here....wont the 240 radial (reciprocal) be directly over 60? Why is it a little offset here?
@Emrahozair
@Emrahozair 2 жыл бұрын
best one🤘
@Blackpigeon007
@Blackpigeon007 Жыл бұрын
A very great explaination, but you somehow failed to explain "how to identify if it is a DIRECT, PARALLEL, OR TEAR DROP" for that you have to make another diagram in your imagination, and drwa the outbound at the top, then identify if it falls in DIRECT, PARALLEL OR TEAR DROP. Thank you soo much Sir ❤️
@jimburford4535
@jimburford4535 11 ай бұрын
0650 can you state instructions in terms of heading to vor hold sw ..
@wItchHuter13
@wItchHuter13 Жыл бұрын
Niche comment for sure, but 6 T's for anyone who has gone through UPT!
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