Kiriko Takes Less Damage...

[@honey_beeb]

close enough welcome back marblr

[@Camp-NZ]

"Close enough" LOL. That's my motto

[@qinnara5301]

i legit thought this was a Marblr video until i looked at op

[@typify10]

@@qinnara5301reall

[@doslittleduendes2569]

What op means?​@@qinnara5301

[@NicoTheMilkman]

@@qinnara5301same

[@lil_wheelz5173]

i was just watching didn't even realize that this was a small channel. thought it was a channel like marblr. this channel is going places at this pace, awesome production quality, keep it up!

[@xaan7458]

No one cares. 0 originality just like your comment

[@sgdadfgdfgadbdfbd]

yeah its cool and all and do get inspired but please at least try to make something original and not just copy

[@whatsaname9233]

The marblr effect

[@whatsaname9233]

​@@sgdadfgdfgadbdfbd I mean it's just a style

[@demolul]

@@sgdadfgdfgadbdfbd lowkey

[@mortezamoryhajiha4452]

This math teacher is tricking us into learning math.

[@lonelyeaters]

That dirty commies

[@Misterlguana]

Damnit, he's played us like a cheap kazoo!

[@Minisynapse]

Inadvertently he tricked you into mislearning study design...

[@WilliamMarshall-b1g]

No, he hepled you cause education is important.

[@preferableyoutuber5481]

@@WilliamMarshall-b1g and you clearly you don't have enough, "hepled" 😂

[@skyfeelan]

valorant aiming guide: aim for the head overwatch aiming guide:

[@jaden5843]

I love it. I prefer games where the aiming is super varied and not holding corners.

[@Icedteaman-o8o]

Aim for the thighs (only for the girls though)

[@emma6648]

@@Icedteaman-o8owhy

[@gameperson-se7is]

@@emma6648 because the math and science says so of course

[@Yorishiriamori]

aiming at her thighs. I see i see, ive been doing that all along

[@suyunbek1399]

surprisingly with widowmaker you should be aiming at her head. very unintuitive.

[@LukeHokage]

​@@suyunbek1399 the devs knew what they were doing

[@BasedPasteChuggah]

I went down to type "I've been aiming at D.vas thighs all along, idiots and then saw this comment. My displeasure is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@emma6648]

@@LukeHokageobjectifying women is blizzards motto

[@DJBaphomet]

The "three months later me talking" edit genuinely pained me. I can't imagine the reaction you had when you were mostly done with this video, and then got hit with the season 10 tank changes which completely mess with your findings due to the headshot damage reduction change

[@OverbiteGames]

And :( It got worse.

[@BuffGenji]

@@OverbiteGameslol ANOTHER armor change

[@Murple57]

very marblr esc, amazing video keep it up

[@Mastrrone]

brah said esc

[@G128_cz]

Yeah was bout to say that and I dig that heavy

[@joehudson7007]

-esque, but yes

[@youdontknowmegigna]

esc? jesus, we are cooked.

[@kayanono]

@@youdontknowmegigna me when people have different first languages

[@StrangeCorvus]

Marblr died 2020, Camp born 2024. Welcome back Marblr

[@spiegeleifisch2982]

2020??

[@fluffyx1676]

​@@spiegeleifisch2982yeah wtf?? Bro stopped posting in 2023 i think (or late 2022)

[@TheNerd]

@@fluffyx1676 Marblrs latest video is from early 2024. It was about spawns in Overwatch

[@baileyskates]

You dont mean died died right? Just hasnt posted?

[@pinguin4898]

scoliosis is a survivability adaptation for ana

[@phoenixwright8364]

so thicc thighs don't actually save lives

[@jahagkagau6061]

Thicc thighs are detrimental to lives

[@masterofclowning]

They may save others' lives by focusing the fire on you

[@emma6648]

Big dongs are better anyways

[@WilliamMarshall-b1g]

Shrimp. Guys, and this size can't take a girl like Chun li.

[@TheCreativeNick]

The production quality of this video is insane. Making my mark here before you hit it big!

[@paulnummerzwei]

Someone finally made mentally stable marblr ❤

[@kayanono]

what happened to marblr? did he do sum bad?

[@billcipher1756]

@@kayanono yeah they put him in a padded room with rats in it rats make him crazy

[@katysempai2907]

It's not that he did something bad, it's just that Marblr exaggerates more things for comedic effect, I.e. the end on his spawns video. This guy seems more calm and collected. A different style, but still good!

[@kayanono]

@@billcipher1756 joke is so old its nostalgic at this point

[@lupedust8931]

I find it interesting that Lucio is the second hardest to hit when he has just speed boost… even in a workshop where he can’t benefit from wallride.

[@WhatIsTheHeat]

I feel like Lucio is pretty easy to hit when wallriding. Probably not in a rollout but normally I’d say yes. Especially as Cassidy rather than pharah

[@lupedust8931]

@@WhatIsTheHeat after season nine, true. Hitboxes are now big enough that good players pretty much won't miss him regardless of his movement.

[@aidanibarra3957]

I love how he talks about the way characters actually move left to right. I knew I wasn't tripping seeing as some characters have very odd and unpredictable animations compared to others

[@Very_Okay]

insane that this video only has 17 views right now, this is really well organized & presented.

[@w0lf334]

Real

[@arbre_mystique]

It’s his first ever video on this channel

[@Very_Okay]

@@arbre_mystique yes, and when it was organically fed to me by the algorithm days ago, it has been out for a day with no views on it.

[@edhys_]

@@Very_Okay originally i thought that was a clickbait video cuz it had like 1k views so i didnt watch it cuz of that, but today it again appered in my recommendation with 80k views

[@no_name6540]

Hey man great video I was entertained for the full 32 minutes, with suggestions I wonder if you could do a video about the fastest ow characters in different situations, like burst speed or a continuous speed, I just think that would be really cool, good luck for your future endeavours🙌❤️

[@Camp-NZ]

Awesome video idea, this might be the next one

[@taupi5246]

One thing to note about abilities, CC's would also contribute to BHE. When you're hard CC'd you are not dealing damage; in other words that CC provided the character with damage immunity for N seconds. Ana's sleep is a big example as 5 seconds of invulnerability every 28 seconds assuming a 50% accuracy would jump her up a few tiers. Could probably apply the average accuracy stats from Overbuff to calculate this without testing. Hog hook, Orisa javelin (take with or without wall slam?), Doom punch (charged or not?)... Etc Also, I just realized : since you're counting a primaling Winston aping you around, what about a Roadhog with whole hog booping you around? Not to mention his hitbox shifts slightly during ult (harder to hit headshots if I'm correct) Great video on such an underexplored topic. Really enjoyed it.

[@deograciasgregorythibaudea5807]

Amazing comment ! I was also curious of how abilities would affect thoses results. Still a super video !

[@kingnukeomega]

Reinhardts full length charge too

[@dayee8807]

This is 100% going into my "Keep in mind very promising and talented creators" playlist. This is so amazingly researched and the editing makes understanding the information for people like me (ADHD) really easy. Intentionally or not, thank you for making it easy for me to understand ❤

[@knyghts]

this is why I love overwatch and have never gotten bored of it since I started playing in 2018. the different variables for each hero, the almost infinite number of unique gameplay interactions and outcomes, and people like this who spend so much time calculating and studying this sort of thing just out of a love and interest in the game and how it works. overwatch is far from a perfect game, balance is always weird and off and it's incredibly frustrating at times but also incredibly rewarding at times too. I really appreciate the work and dedication that goes into this sort of video. absolutely amazing !!

[@notstampgoat]

Sure, much of the information is in a literal sense minimally applicable but, the information itself is still quite valuable. Knowing the optimal, even if unreasonable, allows you to be more optimal by making you more reasonable. (Holy shit banger quote) What I mean by this is that if you know where best to shot any character in an ideal scenario, you don't just learn that specific information but learn how to temper your circumstances closest to the ideal, (since even junkrat will benefit by allowing you to aim where most generous). This still also applies with knowing the absolute peak of a characters survivability. With that info, based on how much dps you're taking on what character, you can make more informed decisions on when you may die and how to survive since you know where your maximum time alive. Also goes offensively too, since you know the absolute minimum amount of time it would take to kill a character no matter your dps.

[@tunahan3756]

A 32 minute video with this quality is insane, especially for a channel of this size. Subbing for more in the future

[@nuraliabdullayev4294]

“aim at her thighs” is crazy work

[@PhoenixPalmer88]

Is “crazy work” some new trend someone said and now everyone is just repeating the phrase?

[@junyaiwase]

@@PhoenixPalmer88 and if it is? you understand it so relax

[@xXunknownXx0000]

😋

[@PhoenixPalmer88]

@@junyaiwase Dude immediately decided to take offense to something I didn't say.

[@junyaiwase]

@@PhoenixPalmer88 who said i took offense to it, i asked a question i didny say anything you didnt say

[@inkaymr4919]

This video is very high quality all throughout, but for some reason what really caught my attention was Soldier looking at each new text that appeared on screen at 9:56 Incredibly well thought!

[@LukasZnojemsky-ho7jl]

I remember time, when servers couldnt handle a-d+crouch, so then youd get shots that were to center of mass and still went blatantly through the hero.

[@aepokkvulpex]

Your editing is unreal. The way you had Soldier tracking the text boxes around 10:00 is so on point

[@illusv9498]

Damn i love these kind of videos, overwatch content on KZbin is mostly so cheap but every few months you might find something like this it's so incredible I was searching for a video like this since i started playing overwatch last year

[@BP-bq9uz]

I’m not all the way through (20:50) but i wanna note that tracer’s strafing can be manipulated. by stuttering the AD (so A brief pause D etc) her movement can be made significantly more erratic than usual via hurtbox manipulation. Girlie has mixups on her mixup

[@serpentmaster1323]

As someone who never played over watch, this video is interesting to me

[@jrodd13]

Been saying this for a while - Kiriko needs the Widowmaker treatment. Give her less health since her hitbox is significantly smaller than then rest of the cast. Her having her disgustingly broken abilities is kinda ok actually if it means she's made out of glass.

[@aeni13]

She would still be broken in good hands. It would just cover the wound. Making a character harder to play or clunky is one of the laziest way to try to solve a balance issue. Widow can still be oppressive, she's just easier to stoomp with counterswap and even "harder" to learn.

[@KlebinDaBoca]

@@aeni13 then give Tracer 250hp and see if it's just covering the wound or an actual valid design decision. That being said, I'd prefer for suzu being less of an intrusive ability and acting as cleansing without phasing.

[@toxicelamain2494]

Nah fuckoff. Better stop saying that stupidity then

[@P.H691]

I agree, so much utlility and damage needs to have a significant downside. I would suggest fix her hit and hurt box, but your change is way better. Giving her low health would also prevent the teleport bs her mains do. It would force them to use it early as it would be easily to either kill her or shoo her away

[@omarsali2990]

Kiriko was really average for a squishy according to the video

[@OfisAV]

What an insane level of production for a first video.

[@axolotlIl]

Interesting how recently the small and new channels are making better videos than the big and well known ones

[@neyaneya5554]

It's always been like that, it's just that in recent months the algorithm has pushed smaller creators a lot more.

[@Nate-bd8fg]

Especially Donut Media

[@sleepyspoon]

@@Nate-bd8fg are you calling donut media a small channel?

[@Nate-bd8fg]

@@sleepyspoon donut is big and well known, but their contents gone to shit

[@sleepyspoon]

@@Nate-bd8fg ah ok mb, i havent checked their channel in years so i was unaware

[@JoyDaBeast]

Extremely niche and specific thing about the mei ice wall for the calculations: If you're in a small corridor you can place it in such a way that all 5 pillars are in the way of the opponent, making the time to break the wall much higher

[@uwufemboy5683]

I absolutely love this video! Well-made, well edited, discusses a really interesting concept that I haven’t seen analyzed with this depth anywhere else! When you’ve hit 10k subs, please don’t forget about those of us who were here from the start 🙏

[@chiffer1787]

I don't even play overwatch I just think this video is interesting

[@willie1genesis714]

As a life long torb connoisseur Ty... for shedding light to the plight of Torb players, its honestly why its hard playing torb in higher level play when hitscan ranged dps are meta... which is often.

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

If needed, you go for longer ad strafes and dont bother crouching. Crouching as torb can actually be worse as the only character with any recoil is literally just soldier and it only goes upwards. So just randomize your AD but long enough and preferably be near a wall instead.

[@willie1genesis714]

@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Oh I agree with ya on the wall hugging strat. Its just soo much harder to get value now since the season 9 changes. ad strafing as you shotgun close ranged with the movement speed buff use to work but when the ease of head shotting and body shotting increased/ as well as not having armor but over health it really made it harder to do that strat vs competent players. He still is fun but more and more I have seen that I have to switch if its a good widow/ashe or phara lol.

[@OSDisco]

Wonderful music choice and pacing for what is unarguably a dense video to make.

[@castle4213]

Hope the algorithm boosts this one for you brother

[@smartguy9765]

17:03 - When the Vsauce music hits you know shit just got real

[@BennyBornAgain]

3+ months for this banger? See you in another 3 I guess sheesh.

[@LasertechStudios3142]

Great video! I’d love an in-depth look at Rein pin and why it’s basically always been inconsistent.

[@Star_Rattler]

15:50 Zenyatta's adjusted crosshair placement: My Balls!

[@obz1357]

When you watch an ow video but it's actually a video about statistics

[@wingedbluj1674]

I've already joined the camp of "Kiriko needs less hp" but this video just makes it even more clear that she needs that nerf.

[@Skullzie03]

Great first video dude, we can tell the amount of effort you’ve put in and it shows. Regardless of different characters of having different aiming styles it’s always great to see these kinds of in-depth analysis in OW and can also shed light for the developers to do some slight tweaks for some hit boxes or animations.

[@sakimiyu2380]

THAT KINDA VIDEO WITH ONLY 50 SUBS??? bro you need moreeeee-

[@Thermalfusi0n]

Calm down brother

[@Stoned_Penguin]

what is up with OW youtubers having such an amazing production level. the graphics, animations and small details are amazing. Congrats on a banger of a video, keep it up.

[@jazlollie2833]

This is so well edited! You deserve way more subs tbh :)

[@Camp-NZ]

Thanks :>

[@iQuack]

Great video. In the future I’d love if you could have several players do the testing, aka getting data from several sources to verify the results.

[@Knight-112]

Actual peak. This is so well made and helpful! Now let’s nerf Kiri’s hitbox 😂

[@Nate-bd8fg]

They already did :((((( it was so fun on first release, you could block headshots with her arm 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@cursedwithlag]

@@Nate-bd8fg lets calm down nate

[@etonnight9494]

i thought my Spotify was unpaused while watching XD. Awesome taste

[@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou]

Its insane that they gave Kiriko EVERY escape in the game. AND a self heal. AND a short immortality. AND a headshot with high rate if fire. Devs have favorites.

[@WhatIsTheHeat]

Yet you remove one of them and she probably becomes poop

[@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou]

@WhatIsTheHeat they gave her an instant transmission, bro and her own hand blocks her leaning head hitbox. If she's poop poop without one of those then how does Zen exist and keep getting high pick/win rate? Kirkiko was their favorite. They justify her toolkit by giving her a slightly slower rate of healing than other supports but she can duel most of the DPS in the game and if she's ever losing, TELEPORT to the nearest tank.

[@WhatIsTheHeat]

@@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou Well yeah she’s a support not a healer and in most cases has to use all her abilities to 1v1 the DPS which means she cannot use her abilities to help her team at all when she goes for a duel.

[@brockpilchowski7826]

I love and respect how much effort went into this video.

[@eliiNya]

i love watching a technical video on a game i havent played in months

[@MagisterOW]

Truly captivating

[@perf1de37]

I love these types of ow videos 😭🙏

[@ReiseOW]

this is a very cool vid, but its important to know theres a massive difference between hitscan vs proj, proj often go for option coverage opposed to hard reads of positioning at high level. for instance hanzo kiri and a few others can cover 2 of the 3 normal ad strafe positions a tracer can be in obvi which changes the math here quite substantially, without mentioning that even at high level everyones aim stats would be different changing the math one way or another. there are many other things to say here but dont want to type a novel so ill leave it at that. dope vid though!

[@jayafrosamurai]

im a kiriko main and this is one of the most fire vids ive seen in a while. love the vsauce music too made the video that much better 👌🏽

[@slybattery]

I always thought to myself why does no one make an in depth video about the effectiveness of movement in this game. It would get so many views. Now here it is finally. Thank you.

[@mongolianstallion8274]

The cortex at the end made me feel like I watched a piece of art and then I came to my senses and realized I just watched a mind numbing 30 minute video packed with data fueled by a guys hyper fixation that maybe had 2 to 3 minutes of competitively viable information. 5 stars great video

[@WhatIsTheHeat]

I think they just need to give Kiriko correct anatomy so her body isn’t 80% spindly legs

[@toraow]

Can this guy be the hero balance lead?

[@robertthompson6905]

I can not believe this is not a larger channel, the effort you put into your videos does not go unnoticed and you will be rewarded with time

[@joemamma953]

First video being this good. Bro got a masters in culinary arts.

[@maxvu1888]

For the first time ever, I bless the KZbin algorithm for helping me find something worth watching

[@otramogon]

Really thought it was Marbl at first bacuse of the high video quality and this close attention to numbers and graphs That's a compliment though! Keep it up, amazing stuff!

[@Ace64100]

applauding this level of math and work, even if it's application is trivial. this was very entertaining and well polished

[@user-ov2fc5sd1e]

Ana jumping is sooo hard for me to hit body shots lol I wished you took that into consideration...

[@crazydave152]

First ever video and its an absolute banger.

[@vimmiv]

excellent video and method. From the intro, to the method used, to layout of your stats. Nice explanation of different factors that affect the stats too at the end. I was thinking of those myself . Its a super cool and i can see all the work you put into it. 10/10 brother

[@HMMR03]

Appears out of nowhere, Drops one of the best hitreg info videos on the platform leaves refuses to elaborate

[@BlazeLycan]

Loved the video! I watched the entire video, and even rewatched the Barrier Health Equivalent part, and I am still really confused what it is supposed to mean.

[@fall2zero]

i gotta say ive genuinely been borderline going into madness as i am like "what is that song again?" some of these background songs are genuinely in my main playlists on spotify LMAO

[@ephemeraIl]

This is incredibly underrated. Your channel too. This deserves much more attention! I respect the effort you put into the video, it was a great watch

[@h_oplite]

I've always hated maths but this makes it way more easy to learn and listen to

[@primescoreredstonetutorials]

Honestly I would really appreciate a video on how to dodge. I've gone into it myself when in masters on moira this season, but I've never seen someone t500 level cover it! Great video❤

[@kylinae]

As a Ramattra player, I honestly didn't know his hitbox was so difficult to face when ad strafing. Will definitely be doing more of that!

[@breadedlemon7067]

Most surprising thing that I learned here is that baby D.va still has tank passive

[@gordonramsayfan3677]

Damn, you thought we wouldn't notice the jojo reference in the background

[@Yoderz]

This actually might be the most informative overwatch video I've ever watched... And I've consumed way too much overwatch content. I'll definitely remember this video.

[@apollo4961]

Having a mathematical way of shoving in my face part why I like playing ram echo and Ana was not what I expected

[@alvemaster]

When all else fails, spam adad and crouch until mercy comes to the rescue. Works every time

[@svendrevhammar3824]

crust from flying lotus playing in the backround!!! Cool

[@NOSTI2ADAMUS]

This is awesome info! Thank you for taking the time to do this research

[@deviljoegaming]

Maybe it's just me, but I hate trying to hit evasive torbs. Little angry meatball who can jump higher than he is tall.

[@lamelonlord1854]

12:03 crust by flying lotus!!!! I recognize that melody outta nowhere. Black samurai was awesome

[@timong2884]

really well put together video. the barrier equivalent metric made it really easy for me to understand. you showed how to aim against every character with perfect movement but do you think you could do a video where you show how to move on some characters when up against different match ups? i know instinctively not to jump in front of a widow maker, but i jumping around saves my life when fighting a kiriko. maybe there's a "best" way to move against each character that you could get to the bottom of. thanks for the awesome video!

[@victoree6680]

it's already been said, but the production quality here is great! well done, you earned a sub

[@willoe55]

The production quality of this video is incredible.

[@zanybolone]

When I checked earlier today there was only like 6 views and you had 200 subs. THIS IS CRAZY, CONGRATS DUDE

[@ninidialgascookie5739]

Stunning video quality ?!

[@KermitTheGreenFrog]

The prediction level on this is through the roof.

[@akustik7931]

Great video, really hope this channel takes off into popularity soon.

[@Yaduh]

the moving background with the cubes hurts my eyes 😢

[@weasbear7052]

what i think is wild is the fact that kiriko already has the best survivability tools in the game being and tp and complete dmg minigation. this means the reason why kirko is often so frustrating to kill at all is because even without those tools she just has the advantage in hitbox period

[@codewithzack]

i never comment but man this was a masterpiece. i recognize the time this took and i watched it twice; the video was so good. i subscribed and i like the video 👍.

[@DownloadedPixelz]

From a statistician standpoint this is a nightmare in several ways - From an enjoyability standpoint I still loved it lol

[@EtonuiYoutube]

As a body shot merchant, Ana is my favorite pick (even tho she can’t even headshot) lol

[@Mika-xw1xp]

This is one of the most impressively made Overwatch Video i have ever seen. You sir are goated!

[@stephentaussig9959]

the animation is top teir. Its entertaining captivating and non distracting from the compact efficient and attention grabbing dialogue.

[@jolness1]

I’ve always felt like Orisa was really easy to land Headshots on. Looks like there is something to that