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[@MrSJPowell]

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[@notjustanother3191]

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[@RobbieB2606]

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[@TuShan18]

I’d love the current noise marine to be like a lord or a lieutenant. So he would stick out, but have some unique goodies to make noise marines more powerful on the tabletop.

[@kalebs6201]

I use him as my squad leader of MK 2 marines with the old resin sonic guns

[@Luciusthestorms]

I used mine as a chaos lord with power "axe" hehe.

[@baelGIGAN]

ive been thinking exactly this, give him a fresh new color scheme and rebox, and he's good to go

[@joelkurowski7129]

They could name him something awesome like 'Lord Shreddicus' and make him part of a specifically Noise Marine themed detachment. Honestly, if they're not going hard into the whole rock and roll aspect of Slaanesh/EC they're going to miss out on what most people really like about that army.

[@searat9814]

​@@Luciusthestorms Hell yeah I like that XD

[@rickkcir2151]

I want the Emperors Children to have variety in how they look. Slaanesh is excess in your personal pleasures, goals, desires, etc. so it should be different depending on the marine. I would love to see some pristine looking swordsmen obsessed with being perfect. Some crazy feral berserkers obsessed with stimulants. Noise marines for the music obsessed. Some chonky marines for the glutton obsessed. Hell maybe some crazy artists obsessed with art. Have that be how they’re distinguished from their combat roles. Who am I kidding, James is just going to make them all look like Lucious.

[@oatless7160]

idk id still want my army to look like an army, this sounds like something better left for those who want to kitbash

[@Hatypus]

It wouldn’t surprise me if they were all in cloned assets. Much like how the new Sanguinary Guard are all in identical armour, simply with different accessory placement.

[@Sara3346]

​@oatless7160 ....are they really an 'army' in that 'organized displined, consistently identifiable as the same force' kind of sense you are invoking here in universe? I would think not?

[@justaguyperson]

@@oatless7160swordsmen, berserkers, and gluttonous tanks don’t fit into an army? Don’t tell world eaters, death guard, or, well, emperors children that

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

It could be anywhere between escher and goliath if you know your necromunda gangs.

[@e.nordstrom3892]

I think they should lean into the juxtaposition of ornate pristine art and body horror. The dude in Unmade from Warcry flashing his flayed face is awesome, want some of that. They should have something like a close combat noise marine unit with charnabal sabres and low frequency speakers resonating with the blades etc. Throw in a cult of charred flesh that wears exquisite coats of skin, who eat their slain foes burnt flesh to gain buffs. And for the love of Slaanesh, they need loads of vials with combat stims administered by ornate servo-heads mounted to their powerpacks.

[@aidan-h3p]

I love how perversely beautiful good Slaaneshi body horror is. Nothing tops the keeper of secrets.

[@e.nordstrom3892]

@@aidan-h3p The KoS really has an aura of unsettling serenity, they did a great job on that one. Good Slaaneshi models has a certain flow to them, it makes the horrific details pop!

[@123123Bear]

how is no one talking about the possibility for the return of doom rider? just imagine a whole slaanesh biker squad completly pimped out with the mentioned body horror

[@simondempster3618]

Plus CSM bikes are in need of an upgrade.

[@grimjhaixus]

Yeah but look what they did to the daemonettes... My man Doomrider might come trans.

[@walmartian422]

@@grimjhaixus lol that's not a possibility in this world or the next nobody at the company is that insane yet

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Nah I expect he's definitely dead and not returning. Whilst they could probably survive a legal battle with Disney, their profits since the end of the pandemic have not been brilliant and it would hit those hard and could get eyes on them they don't want given how much they have taken from others over the years.

[@ScooterinAB]

There's probably a reason. That model was one of the worst ever made. It is best that he be forgotten.

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

Honestly I kinda hate the fact that GW are treating the god devoted factions like the Thousand Sons and the World Eaters as nothing more than an excuse to sell and field a primarch. The world revolves around Magnus and Angron, and almost every single army that actually wants to win games takes them. Everything else is marginal, it's annoying. I want to be able to play the army without having a primarch-shaped hole in it if I don't bring them along because they're off doing something else.

[@aidan-h3p]

They should do it AOS-style, where each chaos god has their own fraction, with the god-legions being but a piece of those fractions, along with daemons, cultists and whatever other horrors GW wants to bless us with.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

That is because that's what sells the most, they will always follow the money. They have a different approach in aos (not least being cheaper by a significant margin with some armies). However while that gets the money thry will I think flesh the 4 legions out once they are all out. Remember too each game they sell will have a investment budget, the tooling for injection plastic is not cheap by any means. This edition it is really rather obvious where the bulk of the 40k tooling investment has been placed, space marines, with black templars in 9th (probably going to get more this edition), dark angels in 9th and 10th and blood angels in 10th and rumours of space wolves in 10th alongside the core marines range. This will likely continue in 11th I expect. How much budget is allocated to the other factions over this edition and next? Love it or hate it, those marines pay for everything else as they sell way more than their tooling and design costs compared with other factions which may take a decade to repay those costs, maybe more.

[@ScooterinAB]

I'm writing a paper on pay to win mechanics in video games, and that's exactly what Magnus is. The army should be viable without having to purchase him. The game should not be functionally impossible to play without him. That's bad design. But then GW hasn't been a game company in probably 20 years.

[@ichbineinberliner1776]

Thousand Sons are what? Specific TT kits are: Rubrics Marines, Scarab Occult Terminators, Sorcerers, Infernal Master, Ahriman and Magnus. The rest are ported AoS Kits, and generic Chaos Vehicles. Variety is pretty much the same as WE. Since ES will not be part of a new edition narrative like DG were in 8th, I expect them to get the same treatment at launch as WE and Votann got. Basic Infantry Noise Marines, some Elite Infantry (Chosen most likely), bespoke Cultists, one generic character modell, Lucius and Fulgrim. Maybe a way to field Fabius Bile.

[@DemonBlanka]

Honestly id be happy with that. I just want some actual rules, a character that isn't the ugliest in the game (derogatory) and not having to pay 50 bucks for fugly resin noise Marine upgrades. My actual dream would be to bring doom rider back, Lucius sucks for your character options.

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

Yeah the Thousand Sons are in a horrendous position. The Kroot alone got more kits in a single release wave than the Thousand Sons have ever had.

[@ichbineinberliner1776]

@@Flight_of_Icarus : and all models except Infernal Master are from the end of 7th campaign Fenris and Gathering Storm. I just checked, the Kroot alone got as much variety as TS, but they are only a part of the T'au not the centre point. one infantry, one elite cavalry, three characters on foot, two on Lizard-like-back, and some dogs.

[@danielbalatoni3622]

@@Flight_of_Icarus Problem is, they did little to advance the lore of the thousand sons, not much room to wiggle. You have husks and sorcerers and mutants. Maybe if they've advanced the lore, like Ahriman manages to return some of the rubrics, we could have awoken rubricae as elites or something. I was hoping SM2 would help with this, but it was a massive disappointment in that part.

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

@@danielbalatoni3622 Even with the lore restrictions they could have rubric dreadnoughts and havocs (maybe even Rubricae versions of the old Khenetai blade occult), maybe even a sorcerer dread.

[@fomod_]

in terms of kits/ unit types I think we'll definitely get -Fulgrim model -Lucius model -Noise Marine squad -maybe a regular Emperor's Children squad? perhaps with the option to make them noise marines instead of the two types being separate kits. -some kind of more mutated type of unit -terminators? not sure, the mutated unit could wear terminator armor, too -vehicle, maybe tank, with a stage you can put the current noise marine on Mad Max style

[@theinsidioushat7543]

Please just give us palatine blades.

[@Bass-ef3dr]

I doubt they're gonna add terminators, they didn't give the world eaters their red butchers

[@alphaswain9588]

there should be at least one more chaos lord

[@angeredgnome]

theres gonna be definetly a elite 3 model unit prob gonna be that mutated unit or some chaos version of a horus heresy unit and also some kind of 10 model unit for example world eaters got jakhals and death guard got pox walkers and thousand sons got tzaangors

[@fomod_]

@@angeredgnome maybe a 6 model unit because Slaanesh's number is 6

[@IronFatherJohn]

As an Iron Hands fan. I really hope we get something. We're supposedly the Emperor's Children's main rivals I will be beyond disappointed if we aren't included in the new lore

[@BoneTrait]

As a World Eater’s player, I’m personally hoping EC get a little more than we did. The “cult” legions are definitely in a weird place where they’re not CSM but they’re not entirely their own thing either, but for God’s sake EC at least deserve their own terminators.

[@samueltitone5683]

Yeah, Thousand Sons and World Eaters 100% need to be brought up to the same standard as Death Guard. Here’s hoping GW doesn’t fumble the bag with EC.

[@fin4314]

World Eaters not getting terminators with 2 sets of possessed as a tradof felt like an odd choice for WE

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

As a Thousand Sons collector, I agree, but I'm far more pessimistic about what GW will actually give them. I feel like GW will just give them the bare minimum of whatever window dressing they need just to sell Fulgrim.

[@alexwilbrecht6962]

I’d rather have a cool jump pack unit than terminators

[@BoneTrait]

@@alexwilbrecht6962 I hear that a lot (at least when it comes to World Eaters), but ironically I don’t really associate any of the god-specific legions with jump packs. With EC I could definitely see something along the lines of “Noise Inceptors” being real cool. As for my Khorne enjoyers, I want Berzerkers riding juggernauts.

[@frazergreen6786]

They'll probably get the World Eaters treatment, a couple units plus a Primarch only to get more later on that they should have gotten initially.

[@nukem8128]

More later? Where is this "more later" with the WE

[@frazergreen6786]

@@nukem8128 It's still a long way out probably, this is 40k after all.

[@amaximus167]

@@nukem8128 I would also like to know where it is.

[@voltix54]

Youll get it when your codex drops just like eldar and votann and all the other impatient faction fans holy hell gw rushing is why the early codexes were so shit and this edition was in pieces so stop clammoring for things to go faster and let them make quality stuff

[@amaximus167]

@@voltix54 Good gods, we're just making a joke about how the OP said 'more later,' in conjunction with 'WE treatment,' like we already got the units. Calm down.

[@chronovac]

I could see GW doing something with Fulgrim story-wise to differentiate the 40k Fulgrim from 30k Fulgrim. Maybe he acquires a snazzy new piece of armor or weapon (I like the idea of him yoinking the cronesword from Slaanesh's palace and that being on the new model) or some other thing.

[@r.cdahuman7682]

"Ooo, pretty sword. Mine" is a very fulgrim coded action. It also makes it so the crone sword isn't unreachable by the ynnari. Neat idea

[@chronovac]

@@r.cdahuman7682 That was the idea, let's get some plot development for the poor elves while also giving EC fans something fun

[@moderndavinci6599]

@@chronovac the problem is that it actually locks their plot more because that means they can't get the sword as it's on fulgrims model Like cypher and the Lion Edit: basically, it's theoretically more accessible, but in truth it's now truly impossible

[@samueltitone5683]

@@chronovacHonestly, eldar vs. Emperor’s Children would be a fantastic box.

[@konstantinosmoschos1050]

You said it man i was thinking the exact fucking thing the other day. This is their chance to have the Eldar have something to fight over.

[@Perserra]

I've been wanting plastic Noise Marines for 20 years. If they just did a good set of Noise Marines, I would be happy. Noise weapon upgrade packs for dreads and tanks would be great too.

[@baelGIGAN]

i would absolutely love to see an original new slaanesh daemon engine unit, one that really pushes the human body horror/torture aspect. just generally more original and unique ideas would be amazing

[@WeScreamAtWalls]

As someone who held off starting a chaos army waiting for Emporer's Children I hope that the range would be fitting for the god of excess.

[@cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543]

In terms of what to bring to 40k I think its staring us in the face, chaos bikers, you wanna stay away from the taboo association of slaneshi excess? Focus on the thrill seeking adrenaline junkie angle. speed, stims, music, trophies. Make em a speedy force akin to white scars Doimrider4eva

[@rosspalmer5171]

Wholeheartedly agree about the body horror - when it comes to the 'mortal followers', a la jakhals, what I want to see are, basically, cenobites.

[@kamenridertheblueknight5313]

I’m hoping for a bunch of Noise Marine variants, like battleline Noise Marines with the guitars, long range havoc-like marines with the giant sonic cannons, and even Noise Marine terminators and marines and lords that use seeker steeds or even chariots too.

[@madmerlinsart]

I'm hoping they do a good job reinventing these guys. It's probably a god specific chaos army I might actually collect. Don't forget they also have that bull Terminator from that Lucius animation those have to translate over.

[@justinjaramillo8062]

They need some sort of sonic speaker tank akin to the sisters of battle piano tank

[@aidan-h3p]

Giant bone-pulverizing drum-tank. Enough said.

[@JumpyLemming22]

When I first started playing Warhammer 40 K, my very first army was Chaos Space Marines, which focused on both noise Marines, and plague Marines, and I have a bunch of the old metal kits of both including old metal Lucius. When the death guard got their major release, I was over the moon and they became my primary faction, and now looking at a potential emperor‘s children overhaul, It’s hard not to get really excited. I’m trying not to get overhyped, but that’s basically impossible so I really hope they have a bunch of vehicle options, melee and shooting options.

[@jazzailsteinigen939]

Love the metnion of AOS in regards to Slaanesh. It has been getting fleshed out more and more for the Hedonites of Slaanesh. It seems AOS has allot of fleshing out in regards to chaos as a whole. So if the inspiration of that could go over to 40k. Then that would be pretty awesome. Variety is some of the spice of life Slaanesh would love to offer. ;p

[@e.nordstrom3892]

@@jazzailsteinigen939 100% agrees with this! Warcry does a great job displaying different aspects of the gods too. I wish 40k got a book for every god, instead of his specific legions. Would have been awesome getting Kill Teams in the style of Warcry Warbands with mixed renegade astartes, mortals, daemons and even Chaos Xenos operatives/slaves. Tabletop is pretty bad at representing the lore for Chaos imho, it’s waaaay to predictable!

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

And slaanesh is imprisoned in the AoS lore and is in part how morathi achieved godhood. The newer models for the hedonites are great. The older inherited ones less so. Seekers, daemonettes, chariots etc need a replacement. The big daemons in most of the aos chaos factions are fairly new however (remembering of course that the horned rat is part of the chaos god pantheon in aos).

[@mintw4241]

Is Eidolon still alive in the lore? I remember they set a short story from his perspective a year back or so, maybe he’ll be showing up if he isnt canonically dead bythe 42nd?

[@samueltitone5683]

Slaanesh and Nurgle are both battling for the “whose followers can have the most body horror” title, so I really hope they play into that. Moreover, I hope they take design cues from the mortal hedonites from AoS. Those are some of the best looking models in any Warhammer system. A Miriel Sabithiel model could be cool, but you just know Arch and the other professional woke spotters (most of whom have never heard of or ever cared about 40K) would go apeshit.

[@TruBoreDOM]

God i would kill for an official Miriel Sabithiel model.

[@samueltitone5683]

@@TruBoreDOM Honestly, I could see them possibly having Sabithiel and her Sisters of Chaos as the EC’s mortal followers like the poxwalkers or jackals. Not sure what they would do otherwise. Port Slaangors from AoS? Hopefully not.

[@DylanGosseye]

Since Chaos daemons and no other mono-god faction has been revealed for a codex, i'm gonna be on heavy copium and say they will mix Khorne Daemons together with world-eaters like in age of sigmar. They can do that with each of them, which would fix their lacking range.

[@Maevola]

I am always a bit confused when people ask for ranged options in WE or melee in TS. Like yes from a lore point of view it does make sense, but that is not really their identity? As an army on the tabletop i mean. Like i neither really want to play or play against a ranged WE army. That army is built to murder everything in close combat, and that is okay as long as they suck at range, kind of the same way it wouldnt really be helpfull if Tau have good melee options. So if you give them some range, you need to nerf their potential in melee. And at least i feel that would get them to lose some character. Although i would love for the legions (or CSM in general really) to be able to field demons in a meningful way.

[@DylanGosseye]

@@Maevola It doesn't have to be ranged, but like the whip from a bloodthirster could help take out the artillery in the enemy backlines that has been focussing on your WE Berzerkers, since he wont have trouble coming in range either with his wings.

[@markhalligan1243]

Agreed with the last point I want good vibes rather than specific units. This is the one army I’ve been waiting years for

[@Bongfire010]

The chainsaw tip model tease looked very promising, I can't see it being anything else apart from an Emperors children model.

[@CelticAkumathefirst]

Would love a Baroque/French royalty approach. Sometimes, with Slaanesh, I can't help but see similarities with Marquis De Sade. More details, more jewels, more noise.

[@colinbielat8558]

Noise marine will likely have bolters as its basic weapons with sonic weapons as a special and heavy options. One thing they can do for fulgrim is a different pose and give him the gladius incandor that guilliman lost when he fought fulgrim, a nice little nod to tge characters history.

[@fin4314]

I'm equally hyped and stressed about this relese. It really comes down to what design principle they will pick for EC and what units will be chosen as legion specific.

[@DragonsHoardOfPlastic]

Honestly, as goofy as it is, I want the new models to have gun guitars like the retro Noise Marine. That model is what sold me on collecting CSM and I've wanted an Emperor's Children army since day 1 of the hobby on account of that model.

[@carysage]

Me too. I'd love it more if they made the heavy gun in that unit a drum kit!

[@todayhorizon1174]

the goofy part is the best part. I know it would never happen, but if i had it my way then every noise marine squad could be equipped like a 5 piece band and theyd be my favorite models of all time

[@richardharrison4762]

I recon they will be the chaos equivalent of the White Scars / Raven Wing. Lots of fast attack options with bikers, mounted troops and multi-legged scuttling deamons

[@grmpynrthmn5371]

If we don't get Doomrider we're gonna riot until we do!

[@crasterlongshanks4284]

I'd be impressed if they get anything more than character and noise-marine refreshes, fulgrim, maybe a new character or fabius will be exclusive to EC now, generic lord, either a heavy infantry or unique cultist/ chaff unit, and a noise vehicle. My best guess on how they might work is high hit chance, low strength ranged weapons that have strong perks, and lost of strike melee profiles. They'll probably have a few ways to deal battleshock. Maybe fulgrim would act like a souped up neurotyrant.

[@huntergallatin6758]

Charnibal blades need to be a thing like a 5 man kit, or a a 10 man kit with the bits for 2 Sargent's who are geared to potray Charnibal blades

[@LARPBeard]

Noise dread, Phoenix here and there, land speeders? Please no deamonettes.

[@tenletters5889]

Going by the hammer and bolter episode about Lucius, I expect a lot of weird mutations and body mods. I really hope they lean into the EC being opulent and angelic masters of their craft just as much as they portray the whole kinky mutant hellraiser on bath salts side of them. I really want to see intricate marble carvings and carefully sculpted gold Aquilas juxtaposed against horrific mutations and depraved altars to suffering. In their eyes they are as much sculptors, painters, musicians, and duelists as they are torturers and marauders. Also def want at least one shoulder pad littered with subwoofers.

[@cynicaltigeruk4546]

If the Emperor's children do end up like the catfish coteaz then as long as i have parts i will kitbash.

[@theogantisnipe]

I’m gonna laugh so hard if by the end of this we find out that the only new thing to bring out for the Emperor’s children is the new enemy in space Marine 2.

[@windowwatcher4044]

I really want seeker cavalry. Marines with stripped down armour riding seekers with spears.

[@The_Foil]

I want to see body Horror, give us that grimdark feeling

[@Fanto_Sir]

I'm waiting to see the reddit posts of people making squads that look like 80s glam rock bands 👀

[@stevetea8317]

I'd quite like the AoS "Persian" aesthetic, I feel it would work in the 40K resetting where they could allow fiends etc in both armies

[@alexrea123]

Just wanted to take time out to compliment your video. It was very well presented and you are easy to listen to. I was looking for content about which models Emperor's Children might include and this was perfect. Thank you 👍🏻

[@zoltanvamosi4267]

It's only going to be Fulgrim, Noise Marines, Lucius.

[@Doc51499]

I do hope we get more than just noise marines and noise themed stuff because within EC those were always meant to be specialists. At least lore wise not every (hell not even most) EC are noise marines. It’s not like death guard where everyone in it is a plague marine and you can do different kinds of plague.

[@JMcMillen]

I'd love to see them take some inspiration from the ancient Slaves to Darkness era Slaanesh champions, as there were a lot of interesting sculpts in that range. I've picked up more than a few from Ebay because the pieces show a lot of creativity and personality.

[@thedevon781]

Give Me the Noise Brute just a big dreadnought with noise cannons

[@SweetOddBoi]

I just want them to give the Emperor's Children a techno body horror dynamic with all their speakers and techno enhancements to experience their sensations to a greater degree.

[@pezlerthepolychromatic8337]

From what I understand, World Eaters was supposed to have a Wave 2 release that hasn't showed up yet due to things at GW becoming . Same could be said about the Wave 2 of Votann that hasn't showed up, or the Horus Heresy infantry units that dropped off.

[@BarokaiRein]

Don't worry, Kirioth, GW's D-team is on the job. Didn't think their teams went that far down the letters? Well, me neither, but it's probably the one that wrote the custodes codex.

[@rowanirish]

I bought 18 Forge World sonic blasters and kitbashed 2 Devastator grav cannons for blast masters and put them on 20 Chaos Legionnaires. I swapped out the 2 blastmasters' backpacks with the backpacks from the Noise Marine upgrade pack. Then all are painted in the purple and gold scheme with a wash of AK Interactive Brown Wash for good measure. They look decent imo.

[@ieatmice751]

I’ve always thought a good Emperor’s children range would consist of: Noise marine upgrade kit for CSM(new weapons/heads/shoulder pads/accessories etc) Some form of new havoc-style troops(Kakophani maybe) New elite terminators A noise marine chaos lord A noise marine chaos lord in terminator armour New Lucius the Eternal model Brand new named character New Fulgrim model

[@danielbalatoni3622]

It's just amazing to see the difference in both miniture quality and range between aos and 40k.

[@dalorasinum386]

I bet they’ll do a world eaters job with this. We’ll get a new Lucius model and plastic (affordable by GW standards) Fulgrim. A new noise marine kit. A new non-named character or two and one or two new units. Everything else will be the generic chaos marine vehicles. Maybe with a sonic dreadnaught if we are lucky.

[@HighKingRoku]

I want them to be good, but I'm also gonna be pissed because of the treatment MY Legion got.

[@spartnmarcen5110]

But the biggest question is if Lucius is going to have a tactical rock as well.

[@MrBandholm]

I really want to see EC chosen, some insane polished dualists, some raging berserker.

[@Theloliconprincess]

Loyal Fulgrim clone with his soul? No way.

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

The Brutal Legend game could be used as inspiration for the new Emperor's Children

[@DaneInTheUS]

Yes!!

[@solidsentinel1285]

Really hope we get some unique units this edition for world eaters that aren’t just khorne berserker derivatives

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

What i think is probably all but certain is: Fulgrim, lucious, noise marines and a cultists mob of some description. Beyond that is anyone's guess. Do they replace the hellbrute in a daemon Prince way? If so sonic dread yes please. Daemons is going to be interesting too, as the rumours are that the Daemons codex is dead and the four legions will have the Daemons in their codexes. Do they therefore also give new Daemons as part of the second world eaters range refresh phase? Daemons bulking out emperor's children? The daemonettes, seekers and others are in need of new models.

[@CatherinePuce]

Well, a unit that they have to bring back is the sonic dreadnought. I do not see the generic helbrute do the thing. We need something specific.

[@HorusBlackmar]

I remember that Luicius model being released....so old, if it were a child it'd be old enough to drink a beer at a restaurant in the UK

[@artycharr]

after the blood angels, i am fully anticipating purple primaris intercesors.

[@Scholar_of_Lore]

If it has alot many different types of units and unique vehicles I will think about getting a emperors children army

[@Dylfunkle]

Sonic dread or predator would make me incredibly happy.

[@giraton1]

I want the noise marines to just go a touch into the rock marines of the original while still looking mostly as their modern(ish) artwork interpretations based on the upgrade sprue/cacophony. Make it look like the Cacophony went extra over the 10k years.

[@WolfT33]

Not exclusive to EC/Slaneesh but I'd like to see more xenos (specifically from the current big xenos armies) in their range as a way to emphasize the ragtag outcast/renegade nature of Chaos and make it more prominant of a force for the other xenos while alo (and most importantly) emphasizing and diversifying the xenos factions as prominant elements of the setting worth exploring and characterising wothout having to make whole army ranges. Also imagine the fun you can have with the models and designs and themes. An eerie and decrepid looking nurgle eldar wraithlord made of literal bone, slaneeshi ork speed freek bikers whose faces are stretched and peeling off from the sheer speed they move at, khorne kin/squats in furnace-like armor with moutaches and beards of fire, or an incredibly twisted looking tzeenchian tau mech with limbs and apendages too long to be normal where you question where the metal ends and the fleshy bit begin just to name a few. In reality, asside from making xenos more prominant in the setting as a whole, chaos xenos have immense potential for wild, fresh, and out there designs to vary the ranges with. Like get the AoS team to come up with some crazy shit.

[@spruceforester3038]

A unit that I think might be interesting is a naga-like possessed unit that makes them look like half-snake space marines since they might veiw fulgrim as a perfect being they might try to mimic that

[@Frosty4427]

Emperor's Children desperately need that Hellraiser Cenobite look. Lots of pale pink and black leather

[@cadecook8067]

This is more a long term idea, hopefully an 11th edition goal, but have a way to have an army that is all of a single chaos god, so have csm undivided and daemons undivided be their own armies and Slaanesh with both Emperor’s Children and Daemons alongside with their own rules and detachments, and khorne units has their own army etc

[@Craydon42]

I'd like some sort of artist model. I love in Dark Imperium when it's describing the twisted art that's on Fulgrim's ship

[@chunliam]

If Emperor's Children is anything like the World Eaters release, I'm committing to AoS

[@brianaltamura4213]

I think the other 3 legions were pretty much what we got was what we expected. World Eaters needed to deliver bezerkers, Thousand Sons needed to deliver sorcerers, and Death Guard needed to have marines dripping with slime. All 3 of those legions have had similar model designs throughout the years and we always kind of knew what was coming next. Emperor's Children however has such a blank canvas to explore that I really don't know what I want it to look like. Yes we can all expect Noise Marines but how are the going to look? Their designs have been wildly different throughout their existence. Don't think they are going to do the original 80's rock style of them. They may even go back to some of the 3rd edition art work of them which was really twisted looking (the second codex not the first). When I think of Emperor's Children I think of body horror akin to that of Hellraiser. Just a bunch of twisted flesh to increase sensation. This chapter's history is insane and depraved. Just read about what they were up to during the Heresy let alone 10,000 years later. I really hope that design element is present. Other than Noise Marines, its pretty safe to expect Fulgrim, Lucius, a specialist unit, and a chaff unit. Would like to get characters like Eidolon, and a Terminator unit as well but GW usually splits up their new armies over 2 editions (World Eaters or Votann for example). Overall I think this is one Chaos army that never had a really defined look for them, as the other 3 did, and we can really get anything.

[@rombcr77]

13:20 I never noticed that the harp was a human before this video 😮

[@GhostLegionairy]

I want to see vaust the bull terminator from hammer and bulter. When i saw him for the first time from the show, i had to have him in a model. He looked so cool. As well as loads of body horror skin cloaks, a marine eye's stapled to be permanently open, another wearing the some dudes face that sort of thing.

[@GeoSoutham]

I'd love to see Fulgrim, luscious, eidolon, noise marines, mortal cultists, termies or sonic themed jump troops like lyras in black legion

[@Crispr_CAS9]

For Fulgrim weirder on the body and crazier in the posing. Because the HH model is fallen but not fully into the extremes yet. Hooks through his skin tearing as he moves, drug dispensers, speakers, maybe a captive or two he's wearing as living armor. Lots of trophies. For the rest, the 40k should be the HH kits with some of the extremes of modern EC on top. The usual elongated powerpack vents to start, maybe implanted blades or other grafted 'enhancements'. And actually, no spikes on the armor. The armor should show their continued obsession with perfection, and random spikes aren't 'perfect'. But each should be different too, customized to the individual marines idea of what 'perfect' means. Pleasure Cultists, Teratas, and Kakophoni as the battleline Palantine Blades and Phoenician Wings in light support Phoenix Terminators and Sun Killers as heavy support Bikes, Sonic Dreads, and some kind of big legion-specific daemon engine as vehicles Lucius and Eidolon as Epic Heros, with some support characters.

[@hellsong23]

God's balls, that Fulgrim mpdel is still bloody top tier!

[@yagsipcc287]

GW trying to finally put out a fraction of new stuff for decades old chapters that 3d modellers have been doing for years now

[@ragnarokivae6136]

Tbf we also have two lions. The house heresy one is also not that old and the 40k version is an amazing upgrade imo. So I don't see a problem with a second deamon primarch fulgrim. To the emperor's children, I hope they get terminators and maybe a deamonic biker unit

[@Jfeldhake]

Slaanesh is the god of excess...so I printed 30 Rockstar Noise Marines and I'm running full squads of each!

[@cetx]

I don't play Emperor's Children but if I did, I would want a daemon Fulgrim model that was less delicate. I can't imagine trying to transport, or even store, the current one.

[@ms.riflespiral]

I was originally afraid we’d only get 1/4 of an Army like TSons and World Eaters got, but then Imperial Agents happened. If their idea of the Inquisition’s grand return as a proper fighting force on the tabletop is “some kill teams and units from other armies we scotch-taped together, oh and here’s a plastic Coteaz who’s somehow worse than the dumpy resin one”, it’s added a new layer of fear to seeing my army of choice finally arriving with a codex. I genuinely fear GW would be incompetently braindead enough to only give us plastic Fulgrim (looking worse than Fulgrim Transfigured because the 40k model quality has generally gone downhill and my faith in GW’s overall miniature design is now entirely placed on the AoS design team trying way harder than they need to) and then go “Oh and we’re not updating Lucius, the Noise Marines, or giving you any other unique units, see you next edition!”

[@0815UserII]

I wish they'd remove the whole 'separate ranges for separate games' stick they have up their bum and release/expand on god specific Beastmen for AoS/ToW and give us 40k upgrade sprues to bring them to 450k. I get that not every model will fit every setting (even with modifications), but there are some very clear examples and this feels very much like one of them to me. Among other things of course, mortal cultists for 40k would probably look a lit different than the AoS ones and it'd be a shame to not have some representation in the Codex for these. Fiends and the Infernal Enrapturess are both Daemons of Slaanesh, there is really no argument why they shouldn't be available in 40k.

[@D4RK_FL4M3]

I know Fabius Bile doesnt really like the rest of the Emporers Children but I would love some of his mutant genetic engineerings as cultist equivelant. Or even more unlikely but I would LOVE a squad of New Men. They could even give him a detachment in the codex.

[@vulcinabox2304]

What im generally thinking/hoping for: Noise marines- Ranged unit Drug based marines or cultists-Melee unit a sound based Rhino tank that's just a Stage with a noise marine on top or cane built as some other secondary tank unit-plaugebust crawler equivalent or Noise based Predator Ascended/"perfected" - Terminator equivalent (playing into the original legions ideas of perfection so they could be like barely armoured almost statuesk looking marines new Lucius New 40k Eidolon (as they seem to be pushing him with the new HH novel) New Fulgrim But I'm just spitballing here XD

[@origulator]

The thing I'm most curious about is what the official color scheme will look like

[@wpeaston]

Definitely need some khorne specific vehicles or cavalry, thinking some minor brass scorpions or some beserkers riding juggernauts, for invocatus to lead

[@nobalswordsmanX]

Personally, I hope that the emperor's children release carries over to the chaos demons. With a current ruling that was added with the last update, a majority of my exclusively Slaanesh chaos demon army got gutted because I don't have enough battle line units, and there's only one battle line unit I can run, that being the demonets. After looking through the index, Slaanesh and Khorne have one battleline unit each, where the other two chaos gods have at least two different battle line units, which makes running a single chaos God exclusive Chaos Demon army a bit of a pain. Hoping this "year of chaos" gives the demon lines a bit more love.

[@KailumsRealm]

new bike models, maybe a good excuse to make a duel kit specific type for EC & regular CSM, or new bikes in general & a doomrider HQ to lead that new unit

[@papazoulou9326]

On one hand, we had the Dark Angels new units, which were awesome. The KT kits are also great updates. But the BA eeee

[@roomtempiq1571]

Im hoping for an elite melee unit with a duelist look, maybe like corrupted palatine blades

[@christopherparry7389]

The battle sister have, or maybe had i can't remember, a tank with a giant oragn on top. I want similar for the EC, a big noise marine tank. And maybe noise marine weapons on a dready.

[@IronModeOfficial]

I’m going to make Corrupted versions of Slipknot, with the original members for my Noise Marines

[@bananaboy2373]

I thi k it would be interesting if they brought back the fallen sisters with mireal as the mortal followers, kinda works with the idea of a stuck up nun fallening into depravity due to a religous innocence. Also please give us a sonic dreadnought

[@chrismah6248]

I mean I would love emperors children but I think what we really need is a primaris lt. on tactical rock

[@edlinley6802]

I’m probably stretching further than mr. Fantastic but I kinda wanna a model for Miriael Sabathiel the first Adepta Sororitas cannones to turn to Slaanesh

[@kieranhoare7239]

I really hope we get sonic dreadnoughts back. I guess a sonic hellbrute these days. I think we need: fulgrim (i'm not paying au$400) for a resin model. Luscious the eternal noise marines as our troops. pheonix terminators (all mono gods except khorne have their terminators) A generic lord, would be cool to have the '80s metal' model reprised for that. A cultist unit. I'm not really interested in them but it doesn't make sense to not include them. I'd also like an elite duelist power armour unit like palatine blades, but I think there are currently bigger priorities so this unit is less likely