Greg Koukl: This Tactic DESTROYS Every Argument AGAINST Christianity | Kirk Cameron on TBN

[@scottearlsmithFTC]

Kirk. I loved this video and wanted to commend you on how you conduct interviews. You simply keep quiet and let the guest talk. Ask a good question and let them roll. Good work!

[@leapedrosa4475]

Have you abided to the COMMAND in 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV) that identifies the following: A) The SPIRIT THAT IS OF GOD/PRO-CHRIST (1John 4:2). B) The spirit of antichrists/false prophets (1John 4:3) ??? If not, then you're identified in 1JOHN 4:3.

[@Mightiflier]

@@leapedrosa4475so do you support the Godless agenda of Joe Biden?

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@traveldealswithpiah 1) Your replies are good for nothing. 2) Please think a little more before posting your replies here because you don't ....

[@lifesgoodeveryone5407]

Should Christianity be the one world religion

[@Mightiflier]

@@leapedrosa4475 so you think I value your opinion? Sorry, no.

[@michaelbabbitt3837]

Greg Koukl was my introduction to real Christianity 14 years ago. I listened to his radio program - and even called in once - and I began to seriously consider the arguments for Christianity. Here was a deeply thinking Christian. After having lived through many religions (I started off as a secular Jew), I got baptized in 2011.

[@John3.36]

Nice, but be careful of Calvinism. It is bad news.

[@HeyWiseGuy]

@@John3.36 Michael would be well-served to check in with the Soteriology 101 KZbin channel.

[@michaelbabbitt3837]

@@John3.36 I am not a Calvinist, nor do I fear it. And there are various types of Calvinists. I tend to be a Molinist - if I was to be pinned down.

[@2l84me8]

What is “real christianity”?

[@LWS1989]

By “real Christianity” do you actually mean a version of Christianity that you just happen to like better?

[@JoePodeiko]

The Lord providentially brought me to the tactics book when I was first being drawn to Christ. What an amazing blessing! Praise God for the perfect work of his hands! ❤️🙏

[@ikecalle]

Can you recognize evil actions from good actions in your Bible? Because most children age 10 and older are able to correctly identify good/evil actions when reading certain passages in the Bible. YOUR GOD IN THE UNHOLY BIBLE instructs how to buy and sell men, women and even children as slaves (personal property). Even how to own slaves for life and passing your male/female slaves to your children as inherited property. IT'S EVIL. Leviticus 25:44-46 44 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. Your god commands, "THOU SHALT NOT KILL", yet, commands a father (Abraham) to murder his own son (Isaac) and set him of fire as a burnt offering! Genesis 22:2 - And He said, take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thy love, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. Your god is also also so petty and evil he murders his own people simply for non-descript harmless complaints. HIS SUPERNATURAL BIONIC HEARING HEARS A GROUP OF ISRAELITES SIMPLY COMPLAIN AMONGST THEMSELVES - YOUR VIOLENT, NARCISSISTIC, JEALOUS GOD GOES INTO A FIT OF RAGE AND IMPULSIVELY KILLS HIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE COMPLAINING AMONGST THEIRSELVES AND BURNS THEM ALIVE. BURNED ALIVE WAS HIS CREATIVE CHOICE FOR MURDER. THEY WEREN'T EVEN TALKING TO HIM. YHWH REFUSED TO TALK WITH HIS ISRAELITE CHILDREN. YOUR gOD SPOKE WITH TWO BROTHERS, MOSES AND AARON. YET, WHEN HIS PEOPLE DESPERATELY CRY OUT AND PRAY FOR SUPERNATURAL HEALING OR A CHILD CRIES OUT FOR HELP WHEN THEY ARE BEING RAPED OR MURDERED, HE DOES "NOTHING". IRONICALLY, DOCTORS, EVEN GAY AND AGNOSTIC DOCTORS, ARE HEALING AND SAVING LIVES OF THE SAME CHRISTIANS THAT VIEW THEM AS AN ABOMINATION.

[@SouthDFW]

As the Lord 's Spirit lives in believers, His Spirit lives in His Living Word. Seek Him out, and you will find Him. I did!

[@SachelleCambria]

Nice.

[@mchristr]

Greg is one of the best apologists out there. Stand To Reason has a tremendous number of resources both for those who are curious about Christianity, and for Christians desiring to intelligently share their faith. Thanks Kirk.

[@LadyLovelyLox777]

Thank you for posting this! Keep being bold and sharing the truth. This world needs it more than ever and so do we!

[@seanpittaway5341]

Stop lying and claiming truth when you have no evidence but lying, ignorant man's word that it is. Liar!

[@MikeAcousticMusic]

I'd like to comment in on how for many years almost equally I listen to Greg and Kirk and I'm so grateful to see the two of them sitting down discussing and thinking through these crucial and simple concepts. Romans 15:13! 😊

[@karloswithak6823]

Sometimes the simplest quotes can be your greatest resource 🙌✝️❤️

[@leapedrosa4475]

???

[@raphaelfeneje486]

God bless Greg and Kirk. Thanks for defending the faith❤🙏

[@leapedrosa4475]

Based on what you learned from the speaker here, who's the ONLY TRUE GOD, the FATHER, or the SON?

[@douglasrasmussen480]

Defending a religion based on such abjectly false history, ignorances of the men who wrote it, the myriad interpretations, the failed prophecies, the absence of independent historical confirmation and the use of massively projected conclusions off of miniscule pieces is hardly proof. Apologists project great confidence, but claims do not constitute validation.

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@douglasrasmussen480 1) ... NOT the TRUTH written in the HOLY BIBLE (KJV) which the people in the world/theists and atheists, and even the professing Christians in the world can't comprehend. 2) Most of the characters named and historic events recorded in the HOLY BIBLE (KJV) have their corresponding records written by historians. The best, based on my discernment, is the History book: The Modern Times And The Living Past by ELSON. 3) Most of the PROPHECIES in the HOLY BIBLE (KJV) have their corresponding records of FULFILMENT from the historic events written in said book of ELSON. 4) However, SPIRITUAL SUBJECTS are SPIRITUALLY discerned and understood by the MIND/SPIRIT that exists in the BRAIN of the ELECT/CHOSEN PEOPLE of the LORD, not by carnal mind possessed by the people in the world you're in.

[@douglasrasmussen480]

@@leapedrosa4475 Genesis - proven Bogus, The great worldwide catastrophic flood, proven bogus, Noah's Ark - proven bogus, prophecies - proven bogus (e.g. Nebuchadnezzar's conquest of Egypt). Resurrection - proven bogus. You are living in a delusional world.

[@raphaelfeneje486]

@@leapedrosa4475 The three persons are one!

[@takearight.]

An example of “God works everything (or one) for good to those that love Him. I am so very proud of Kirk for his even minded approach to the truth. Thank you Kirk Cameron. You were truly appointed by God for the good of all. Very rare in hollywood setting.

[@Disciple793]

Kirk had to leave Hollywood for the sake of the Gospel. They don't want him back. All evil institutions operate with the same motis operandi. (John 15:18-19)

[@takearight.]

@@Disciple793 VERY rare thing.. and very brave and confident. Just what his new job description requires..😃

[@lct9031]

Do you think kirk has the guts to preach the gospel in muslim countries like iran where his head will get chopped off? Of course not which means he doesn't even believe in his own faith

[@simionenaclably9280]

christians cant go deep within cuz demonz cant, thats why you fight the world by silly beliefs of your ego in your narcissism and the outer world is so dark to you. but angels did all the hard work of going deep within and activating all that is within and thats why angels fight nothing cuz light fights nothing and angels see the outer worlds as infinite magic and beauty. perfection. like robert and i do

[@simionenaclably9280]

thats why like my husband says: it takes 25 to 50 ayahuasca ceremonies for a christian to ascend spiritually (infinite heavens everywhere) and all other groups on the planet it takes much less for example a hindu or buddhist only takes 3 to 5 ceremonies to ascend, even atheists take less than half the amount of ceremonies it takes you because you have the most darkness inside u to face with the darkest beliefs. christianity is the definition of narcissism

[@ChildofGod98765]

As Christians it’s vital to trust God no matter what we are facing. God is our only strength in this world. As a single mom, things are tough on me. My husband passed years ago. I feel so alone. Both of my sons are autistic and non verbal. I’m constantly struggling to provide for my boys. Now that I’m home schooling them I’m having trouble getting their school supplies. I’m overwhelmed and so ashamed. Father God hear my prayers. My faith in you is strong! Even as I constantly struggle to pay my rent. And I constantly struggle to provide groceries for my children! I trust you Lord! I’m choosing to keep faith. Walking with faith is the most important thing us christian’s must do. That’s why love compassion and prayers are all we truly need. Please keep me in your prayers. Prayers are all I need. ❤ 0:05

[@parahjapheth7920]

Again?

[@robertdouglas8895]

I pray that you no longer look at your life as hard. "My yoke is easy and my burden is light." Suffering seems to come when we feel life has laid upon us a sacrifice when in reality, we have chosen sacrifice because we think it will get rid of guilt. It doesn't. Forgiveness does that. Forgive everyone to know freedom and health. "If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent."

[@bestmimi]

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[@Disciple793]

What is confusing about your story is that you have no means to provide for your children because of certain circumstances, I get it. But when it comes to provide food and housing for developmentally disabled children, the state will provide financial assistance not to mention there are churches and soup kitchens that donate food. Help me understand why none of these organizations are helping you?

[@apiffanyfulcher6628]

Hey there sister, my heart goes out to you and your family! I was in a similar situation. Do belong to a home church? They should be able to help you out… Praying for you and your family.❤

[@lisashrowder8620]

Good speaker, you bring encouragement and spiritual tools to my Christian walk. Thanks, Lisa

[@HostOfTheMostHigh]

Man I hadn't heard Greg before but he was awesome to listen to. Praise the Lord!

[@timfinch7857]

This is a fantastic video! I appreciate these two brothers so much!

[@leapedrosa4475]

1) Really? 2) If based on the TEST/COMMAND in 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV), the "two" could identify the following: A) The SPIRIT THAT IS OF GOD/PRO-CHRIST (1John 4:2). B) The spirit of antichrist/false prophets (1John 4:3); then, they are the persons you think they are. 3) Please abide to the TEST/COMMAND in 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV) so as not to be deceived by antichrist/false prophets (1John 4:3) who are many in the world (1John 4:1).

[@timfinch7857]

@@leapedrosa4475 How about you tell me specific things they said that was unscriptural. I'm betting you come up lacking...

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@timfinch7857 1) 1 JOHN 4:1-3 of the KJV which I referred to as BIBLICAL TEST ONE is the FIRST in my discernment in identifying as to who must be believed in. 2) There's only one TRUTH needed to be identified as having the SPIRIT THAT IS OF GOD/PRO-CHRIST (1John 4:2). Here's that TRUTH which can NEVER be disproven: "John 4:24 God is a Spirit: .... Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as yet see me have." LOGIC/SOUND REASONING: PREMISES: GOD is a SPIRIT (John 4:24); A spirit has no flesh and bones (Luke 24:39); JESUS CHRIST has flesh and bones (Luke 24:39). CONCLUSION: Therefore, JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD. - The FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:1-3); therefore, the SON/JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD; otherwise, he's a false god/god the son, god the Word, mighty god, creator god, father god, man god/false Christs (Matt. 24:24) -- that's LOGIC/SOUND REASONING too. 3) The "two brothers" in the "fantastic video" as you stated FAILED in the BIBLICAL TEST ONE (1John 4:1-3); hence, the identified antichrist/false prophets (1John 4:3) and the deceivers/deceived in 2JOHN 1:5-7.

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@timfinch7857 1) LOGIC is the highest form of reasoning. 2) Therefore, the ONLY way to disprove my LOGICAL CONCLUSION that JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD is to draw a logical conclusion that "Jesus Christ is God" based on the WORDS directly said and revealed by the LORD JESUS CHRIST/SON OF GOD (Matt. 1:18, Mark 1:1, John 10:36)/MAN (John 8:40)/FLESH AND BONES (Luke 24:39). 3) LOGIC is LOGIC, so LOGIC be it.

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@timfinch7857 1) You stated, "I'm betting you come up lacking ..." 2) You lose. 3) Be WARNED!

[@e.l.p.i.d.a]

Super helpful! Just bought his book after listening to this. We have so much to learn in regards to apologetics and communicating sensitive topics like Christianity (to unbelievers). Praise Father God 🙌

[@leapedrosa4475]

Who is the ONLY TRUE GOD, the FATHER, or the SON?

[@leapedrosa4475]

Based on the TEST/COMMAND in 1 JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV), the identified antichrist/false prophets in 1 JOHN 4:3 and the deceived (2John 1:5-7) who are many in the world (1John 4:1) can't identify the ONLY TRUE GOD between the FATHER and the SON because of confusions in the world-- the modern day Babylon/world.

[@MrRickb75645]

​@@leapedrosa4475there is God the father and Jesus Christ his son. And the holy Ghost. Jesus is the son and a god himself. For we know he made the world with God's direction. Even before he came here in the flesh. John 3:6 for God so loved the world , he gave his only b gotten son. This sujest that they are two separate beings.

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@MrRickb75645 1) If the FATHER is GOD and the SON is GOD, who is the ONLY TRUE GOD, the FATHER, or the SON? 2) And if the FATHER is GOD and the SON is GOD, how many GODS are there (1+1=__)? COUNT. 3) Based on your answers to the above queries, abide to the COMMAND in 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV) by identifying the following: A) The SPIRIT THAT IS OF GOD/PRO-CHRIST (1John 4:2) -- the SAVED. B) The spirit of antichrist/false prophets (1John 4:3) -- the condemned. 4) The above subjects are related subjects. Therefore, your wrong answers to No. 1 and 2 is tantamount to being identified in LETTER B) The spirit of antichrist/false prophets (1John 4:3) and the deceiver/deceived (2John 1:5-7) -- the condemned who are many in the world (1John 4:1). 5) And FAILURE in abiding to the COMMAND in 1John 4:1-3 (KJV) is tantamount to wrong answers of all the above -- lose of SALVATION/ETERNAL LIFE in the KINGDOM OF GOD committed by the world you're in -- destined/prophesied to END -- END OF THE WORLD IN HELL FIRE (Matt. 13:38-40).

[@seanodowd4085]

@@MrRickb75645if Jesus was “man and god”… then nothing was sacrificed in the story.

[@Muzicboy3]

Dang my man Kirk! Haven’t seen him in a while… my mans aged on us… good to see he’s still around …

[@ntordel]

God is the author of the Truth...I would not and could not see it in any other way. Praise be to God.

[@vuho2075]

How do you know that such a being even exists at all?

[@freedominion7369]

​@@vuho2075 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYDLpZ2lmc-ch6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4bCn2Ogp5tlh6s

[@ntordel]

@@vuho2075 How do you know it didn't? Did you create yourself. Did man create himself? Did man create the moon, stars, ocean and animals?

[@vuho2075]

@@ntordel Fair question. My point is that if you worship a creator, then you need to find him. Saying "Well, somebody must have created all this stuff" isn't good enough. At this point, it boils down to a creator who is invisible, undetectable, lives in a place nobody can find. How does that work?

[@ntordel]

@@vuho2075 I find God everyday by meditating in his words (The Bible), speaking to and praising him throughout each day. When things get tough I pour all my faith into him and to his promises. God is Holy. I found that I needed to align myself to God says he is and not my idea of who God is. The inner voice that I hear and cling to. I hope and pray that you be blessed to hear God.

[@KristineEstes-zq8jo]

WOW! Ways to share Christianity with highly educated people ❤ Thank you, Mr Cameron 🎉

[@ruthraj7145]

Thank you Greg and Kirk for your ministry. I am from South Africa and will share with my family and friends.❤

[@leapedrosa4475]

Please abide to the COMMAND 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV) so as NOT to be deceived by antichfist/false prophets (1John 4:3) who are many in the world (1John 4:1).

[@chrisclark7170]

Its all lies.

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@chrisclark7170 ... NOT the TRUTH stated in my quoted verses here.

[@chrisclark7170]

@@leapedrosa4475 the bible is bullshit

[@pureflix8086]

Thats the _last place_ that needs _more_ christian nonsense.

[@Grecofire24]

I loved this interview. I know I’ve given TBN harsh criticism in the past based off their teachings, this video however is biblically sound. Also I gained new insight on how I can approach others who have different view points on the Bible. My question on discernment is this, there are so many channels on KZbin who have created discernment videos many of which critique TBN. However many of these discernment channels make claims after every video that they pray for those false teachers to repent and ask God to forgive them. Out of arrogance though many of the preachers on TBN insult and call these concerned individuals demons and continue destroying thousands of peoples lives with their teachings that do not line up with scripture. Will TBN every listen to these concerns or will they continue to insult their critiques and use their speaking platforms to confuse the next generation of believers. I pray the day comes when TBN denounces Word of Faith and pursue after God in His Righteousness. After listening to this interview there is hope.

[@grantbartley483]

Details matter when it comes to truth, foundationally including the details of the reasons for why we believe what we believe. So thanks for your tactics, Greg.

[@aronaeve1669]

God bless you Kirk for always sharing God's truth.

[@leapedrosa4475]

Who's the ONLY TRUE GOD, the FATHER, or the SON?

[@MobileApex-mp1ur]

​@@leapedrosa4475😂

[@AtamMardes]

♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Only fools revere the supernatural bs just bc a book says it's the holy truth." ♦"The gullible delusional religious fools are cocksure & the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"The religious fools believe by the millions what lunatics may believe on their own." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

[@deborahbain9915]

Awesome Kirk your so sensible loved the home schooling programme you had it was on our Christian tv in N Z

[@nb7524]

Hey Kirk, another solid interview! I’m enjoy your channel you do really good interviews, thank you!🙏🏽

[@drlaurav]

I seem to recall the women took the herbs and spices on Sunday morning, expecting to unwrap Jesus'body, add the herbs etc to control the odor of decay. So no, Jesus didn't arise with herbs stuck in His hair! 😅 Enjoyed the discussion, I loved Greg's book! Getting in the habit of asking questions is challenging, just need to practice!

[@rLnSazon]

In 21:02-21:06, Koukl said, "mummified with 75 pounds of herbs and spices packed IN His body" -- NO... the body of JESUS was never embalmed with the 65-100 pounds of spices. Our crucified LORD was only wrapped with the fragrant-laden strips of linen (to control the odor of putrification) as was the Jewish burial custom (see John 19:40; Luke 23:53; Mark 15:46; Matthew 27:59).

[@raulnacer6082]

So let me get this straight. Jesus died Friday, and the women decided to take herbs and spices on Sunday? First, why Sunday two days later? Second, was it customary for women to anoint a dead man's body in Jewish tradition? Where is that tradition found in the Torah? It seems to me that it is a plot device to get people back to the "tomb" and find an empty to make the resurrection story more plausible. Most likely, Jesus died on Friday. His body rot for a while, maybe even ripped apart by animals. Afterward, he was thrown in a mass grave.

[@tokkikim6871]

Very helpful. Thank you very much.

[@johnacosta1417]

Thank you!

[@stuartdavidson162]

0:15 "Because it's the best explanation for the way things are". I regret stopping the video right there :D

[@charlieallansen9763]

Excellent video. Make more, please! Thank you! 🤓👍

[@nutherdisciple]

worth listening to

[@hsrryobrien993]

Book- Tactics - a game plan for discussing your Christian convictions.

[@EBM1966]

Blessings all! There is a deconstructing you tuber named Kristi. And I asked her where she got her moral compass and she said herself. Exactly what Dr. Koulk spoke.

[@ruthraj7145]

Amen Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.✍️🙏❤️

[@karin1207]

Excellent interview! Great points

[@AtamMardes]

♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Only fools revere the supernatural bs just bc a book says it's the holy truth." ♦"The gullible delusional religious fools are cocksure & the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"The religious fools believe by the millions what lunatics may believe on their own." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

[@emmanueldotisholahyphensalawu]

Thank you.

[@dpawsum4120]

An encounter with the Holy Spirit as we read Scripture ❤️🔥

[@AtamMardes]

♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Only fools revere the supernatural bs just bc a book says it's the holy truth." ♦"The gullible delusional religious fools are cocksure & the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"The religious fools believe by the millions what lunatics may believe on their own." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

[@christyemmons7279]

Thank You For Giving Us Some Great Advice, Lesson, & Ways To Share GOD 🙌 & Our Faith!! Praise GOD 🙌 For Sending HIS 🙌 Only Son To Save Us 💞 From Our Sins!! For JESUS CHRIST 🙌 Is The Way, The Truth, & The Life & The Only Way To The Father Is Through HIM 🙌💞 !! I Pray 🙏 GOD 🙌 Will Work On Anyone Who Doesn't Know JESUS CHRIST 🙌❤ So That They Also Will Be Saved For In JESUS CHRIST 🙌 Mighty Name I Pray 🙏 Amen💖

[@simionenaclably9280]

christ never existed..its totally proven

[@leapedrosa4475]

Who is the ONLY TRUE GOD, the FATHER, or the SON?

[@simionenaclably9280]

like robert says: you took over seventy stories from shamanism. thats why in the book of job a verse says: "ask the plants of the earth and they will teach you". as all religions come fr om alchemy,entheogen plants..and theres hundreds of books written that prove it

[@leapedrosa4475]

@@simionenaclably9280 1) ... based on your carnal and myopic interpretation. 2) Most of the PRECIOUS TRUTH written in the HOLY BIBLE (KJV) are written in the POETIC and LOGICAL FORM. 3) Subjects written in the POETIC form are so rich in FIGURE OF SPEECH like metaphors and semilis. 4) And SUBJECTS written in LOGICAL FORM need hypotheses/syllogism to be able to draw a CONCLUSION. 5) You FAILED in both the above use of sound reasoning in understanding your quoted words.

[@robertdemeter5793]

@@leapedrosa4475 That kjv book is worth less than horse poop as it has nothing to do with true spirituality whatsoever. Explain why you're so terrified to post on any of my vids ?

[@krystal6612]

I love GREG KOUKL❤ AND KIRK CAMERON❤ HE IS SUCH A WONDERFUL MAN OF GOD AND A WONDERFUL TEACHER❤ THANK YOU GOD BLESS❤ I TOOK THAT WITH ME (NEVER JUST READ A SCRIPTURE, READ A CHAPTER) to really UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE AND WHAT GOD IS ACTUALLY SAYING IN THE BIBLE 📖

[@jah9253]

Greg makes a great point about pressing further and asking questions as to why people believe the way they do. Many people, including Christians, throw out blanketed statements they've heard from others but can't explain why they've come their conclusions. Good apologists try to probe into this rather than just refuting arguments themselves. Jesus was a master at this technique.

[@tryintoreason9738]

You don’t need “tactics” to have an honest conversation. You only need “tactics” if your goal is to “win" the conversation.

[@bodylinc]

Amen. GODS WORDS ARE THE TRUTH

[@rgold9329]

Most people in my experience don’t care about the evidence they just don’t want to listen or concede there’s one iota of evidence for God.

[@gabepettinicchio7454]

What is your evidence, regarding which individual books are to make-up the Bible.

[@kshaw9179]

Case in point /\

[@elizabethdann1997]

Each one of us have our own journey. We work out our Salvation with fear and trembling. God wants a Family. He wants us to talk with him. Take time to talk with Him. So many are so busy over Nothing. I see people pass others and Then they are caught at the Stoplight. Did they gain any more time? No. The father of a family passed on a curve, "no passing zone" and meets a semi truck. ... The accident takes all of them. But, he was in a hurry. ... God HELP you and me ❤️. Take Time out for Him.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Kristi Burke and Mindshift offer excellent reasons to question Christianity and address it's many problems.

[@TT-zo6px]

Kirk, thank you, I really needed this.

[@lillianmcgrew217]

This is good news and amen ❤❤

[@markrenton1093]

I met Greg and he is really a down to earth guy.

[@bruha321]

created by his parents, not god. Amen!

[@roxannestaton6258]

Great interview, thanks to both of you!!

[@rpireland6131]

Totally! Because we were made in the Image of God, no matter how hard an atheist or any type of belief system out there trying to discredit God, they just couldn't. We are human beings made in the image of God, full stop!

[@AdventureEric33]

Great talk.

[@toddmiller7876]

Faith, it isn't about defending it. You just have it.

[@adriel6421]

Yes, but also no. If you have real faith, you have it. But we are to be ready to give an answer to every man why we have this faith, in such a way that we might "win them over" so they also can be saved: 1 Peter 3:15 - But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

[@toddmiller7876]

@@adriel6421 some do it with words, others do it by being examples with no words. I do however get your point.

[@adriel6421]

@@toddmiller7876 So how do they know what you believe and have faith in? What do you do that seperate you from a unbeliever who is kind and loving, so that they know your faith is in Jesus? I did not come to faith by people who was kind and loving, it was the Word of God that brought me to a saving faith. I know many people who are very kind and loving that are unbelievers, and because of unbelief they never enter the Kingdom of God sadly. So I just wonder how you make known to the lost what Jesus did for you, paying for your sins on the cross whithout ever saying it? If you are an example for bringing people to Jesus, how do you do it? How many have come to faith in Jesus because of how you live or what you have done? I'm not so sure it is wise to rely on our own good works to save people, but rather just give the Word of God and the Gospel, what Jesus did on the cross paying for our sins to save us from the judgment of sin, because the power to save is in His Word, not our own words or deeds. There is also the verse about how we must confess Him to others.... and how me must share the Gospel, the message of the cross. It also say faith comes by hering the Word of God. Romans 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Matthew 10:32-34 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 1 Corinthians 1:17-24 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

[@lva9821]

Yes, true. However, sometimes you have to testify and not be ' ashamed' of the Gospel of Christ, as parents do testify and explain to their children how their faith was built through life.

[@toddmiller7876]

@@lva9821 I hope they are good examples.

[@tryintoreason9738]

No one derives "objective morality" from their worldview. That "worldview" is necessarily subjective to the interpretation they were taught. People like to pretend their worldview is "objective" while actively interpreting their sacred texts based on cultural filters and personal understanding. The truth is we're all doing our best to figure out what's right based on our own limited understanding.

[@MrJamesf6]

Great topic

[@financialfreedomforever]

anoother great interview to defend The Truth

[@terri348]

It gets me every time when non believers say "Why does God allow this evil in the world " My response is, since you don't believe in God, why do you assume he's responsible for allowing the evil?"

[@ardbegthequestion]

We don’t, we’re simply asking you to entertain the question of IF your maximally everything god exists, why does he not actually live out those qualities/characteristics? We don’t think god is responsible for “evil”. What we call “evil” is what we would expect in a universe that is mostly indifferent to our tiny little planet in the corner of our universe. It’s humans that work out how we can & should live with each other and the world around us.

[@macmac1022]

>>It gets me every time when non believers say "Why does God allow this evil in the world " My response is, since you don't believe in God, why do you assume he's responsible for allowing the evil?""' So you just completely avoid the question and you think this is a good counter? Its obvious they are asking you depending on what you believe and trying to show you the problem they see with it.

[@lordsdisciple]

​@@macmac1022it's not that we avoid question, it's a simple fact you don't want to hear the answer, I've seen you comment and give questions for us Christians to answer but yet we give you the answer of "free will" and that's not good enough for you. God gave us free will, evil things are happening is cuz the simple fact we're not properly using our free will like we're supposed to. Every thing has a certain consequences thus created what we're living in today, I came across the fact that you said a question about poison and being in a room? So I'm guessing referring as the tree as the poison in the garden of Eden. So I want you to put a perspective mind in God's shoes. You created free will, you want to know if your children truly loved you, how would you do that? Because if your children listen to you all the time and did things all the time like you said since you not only created them but programed them to do so, that's shuts down free will aspect. So then you always know your children are loving you because you made them that way, but there is something called free will in this world. Hopefully cuz you told your kids you're not allowed to do that they will listen because they love you and they respect you. But it does not always go that way, as us growing up we're always doing things against what our parents has told us, all the time and we get consequences all the time. So our reasoning of evil is the consequences that's happening in this world. Last time I checked when God wanted to fix the planet to get rid of evil the planet flooded, don't worry it will happen again but spoiler alert, that's in revelations.

[@lordsdisciple]

​@@macmac1022you want answers to the equation, the answers is in the Holy Bible. I prefer King James because I enjoy the poetry style of it. You ask us questions all the time and it's honestly not going to satisfy you because i feel like your talking to a brick wall don't you? We aren't going to see your point of view, our faith is a lot stronger than you can ever imagine, to some of us it's almost confusing seeing nonbelievers so focused God just as much as we are. So it gives us the idea that you want to know more, but in order to know more you gotta try to be in our shoes. There is a scripture that is in the Bible that states to "not lean on your own understanding." That's true, cause your way of logic blinds a lot of people from ever getting to know more a certain subject because of the prideful nature of "I'm too good for that." So many scientists and non believers says that if they ever think there is a God that they have to lock themselves up in an asylum. It's heartbreaking to know that but nonetheless that is your freedom of choice to do so.

[@lordsdisciple]

​@@macmac1022but I'm going to end my conversation with something like this. Study, see who all is wanting to be a Christian, try to find out why people over seas are having hungry for the Lord Jesus Christ, they want to know more about him. We are privileged to be able to worship Jesus in public, other countries have to hide and bunkers, there is underground bunkers in China for people to worship God. If they get caught they are arrested. Other countries they are literally getting their heads cut off by worshipping Jesus, in Jerusalem they made it against the law to talk about Jesus and will get prosecuted if getting caught. This is something that not only us are fighting to worship but all over the world is happening. Don't you ever think why? Why would people worship Jesus Christ knowing that their lives are at stake. Something to think about, God bless you brother and I hope you have a fantastic weekend.

[@domingomelchor4902]

Don’t they realize, they can’t defend their faith? A faith that is solely based in one’s own interpretation of the bible is indefensible. A faith that is divided in itself, in the same brand of Christianity, is indefensible. How can you defend the faith that doesn’t have unity of beliefs and practices; Calvinists against non-Calvinists, Reformed against non-reformed, denominational against non-denominationals, progressives against conservatives, etc.?

[@ciernyonyx9349]

The same question can go to atheist as well. Even all atheists don't believe in all the things the same. They've got personal and group diferences as well as believers do. You've got some atheists who don't believe in objective morality, there are some that do. Does that mean that atheist cannot protect their worldview? No. It just means they are trying to argue about one aspect of their belief system on which they all agree on. That there is no God. And the same goes for theists. We can have discussion if God is real between atheists and theists and then we can have discussion between all the different groups and kinda of theism.

[@ciernyonyx9349]

Even atheist have a little differences inside of their worldview. For example there are some who believe in objective morality and there are some that don't. Does that mean that one cannot argue for atheism? No. It just means that we need more then one debate. We can have a discussion if God is real and than the second one, where we can find out which one of the numerous kinds or groups inside of a one worldview works best.

[@maleanewborn9073]

Amazing. I have to imagine this is mind blowing fair a lot of unbelievers if only they’ll take the time to listen

[@oilfieldtrash6708]

If you believe that genocide, misogyny and slavery are immoral then you don’t get your morality from the Bible because the Bible condones all of them.

[@ikecalle]

Can theyrecognize evil actions from good actions by their own god in their Bible? Because most children age 10 and older are able to correctly identify good/evil actions when reading certain passages in the Bible. YOUR GOD IN THE UNHOLY BIBLE instructs how to buy and sell men, women and even children as slaves (personal property). Even how to own slaves for life and passing your male/female slaves to your children as inherited property. IT'S EVIL. Leviticus 25:44-46 44 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. Your god commands, "THOU SHALT NOT KILL", yet, commands a father (Abraham) to murder his own son (Isaac) and set him of fire as a burnt offering! Genesis 22:2 - And He said, take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thy love, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. Your god is also also so petty and evil he murders his own people simply for non-descript harmless complaints. HIS SUPERNATURAL BIONIC HEARING HEARS A GROUP OF ISRAELITES SIMPLY COMPLAIN AMONGST THEMSELVES - YOUR VIOLENT, NARCISSISTIC, JEALOUS GOD GOES INTO A FIT OF RAGE AND IMPULSIVELY KILLS HIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE COMPLAINING AMONGST THEIRSELVES AND BURNS THEM ALIVE. BURNED ALIVE WAS HIS CREATIVE CHOICE FOR MURDER. THEY WEREN'T EVEN TALKING TO HIM. YHWH REFUSED TO TALK WITH HIS ISRAELITE CHILDREN. YOUR gOD SPOKE WITH TWO BROTHERS, MOSES AND AARON. YET, WHEN HIS PEOPLE DESPERATELY CRY OUT AND PRAY FOR SUPERNATURAL HEALING OR A CHILD CRIES OUT FOR HELP WHEN THEY ARE BEING RAPED OR MURDERED, HE DOES "NOTHING". IRONICALLY, DOCTORS, EVEN GAY AND AGNOSTIC DOCTORS, ARE HEALING AND SAVING LIVES OF THE SAME CHRISTIANS THAT VIEW THEM AS AN ABOMINATION.

[@Sirrus-Adam]

Saying Christianity is the best explanation for why things are the way they are, used to be true, but now we have an epochal revelation that is an improvement on that. I'm all for believing in God, but I'm more about sharing my inner life with God, via his spirit fragment known as a Thought Adjuster. It gives us access to the Father 24/7, there to offer us help in making moral decisions, and choosing the better way. It's called The Urantia Book.

[@ikecalle]

Can you recognize evil actions from good actions in your Bible? Because most children age 10 and older are able to correctly identify good/evil actions when reading certain passages in the Bible. YOUR GOD IN THE UNHOLY BIBLE instructs how to buy and sell men, women and even children as slaves (personal property). Even how to own slaves for life and passing your male/female slaves to your children as inherited property. IT'S EVIL. Leviticus 25:44-46 44 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. Your god commands, "THOU SHALT NOT KILL", yet, commands a father (Abraham) to murder his own son (Isaac) and set him of fire as a burnt offering! Genesis 22:2 - And He said, take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thy love, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. Your god is also also so petty and evil he murders his own people simply for non-descript harmless complaints. HIS SUPERNATURAL BIONIC HEARING HEARS A GROUP OF ISRAELITES SIMPLY COMPLAIN AMONGST THEMSELVES - YOUR VIOLENT, NARCISSISTIC, JEALOUS GOD GOES INTO A FIT OF RAGE AND IMPULSIVELY KILLS HIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE COMPLAINING AMONGST THEIRSELVES AND BURNS THEM ALIVE. BURNED ALIVE WAS HIS CREATIVE CHOICE FOR MURDER. THEY WEREN'T EVEN TALKING TO HIM. YHWH REFUSED TO TALK WITH HIS ISRAELITE CHILDREN. YOUR gOD SPOKE WITH TWO BROTHERS, MOSES AND AARON. YET, WHEN HIS PEOPLE DESPERATELY CRY OUT AND PRAY FOR SUPERNATURAL HEALING OR A CHILD CRIES OUT FOR HELP WHEN THEY ARE BEING RAPED OR MURDERED, HE DOES "NOTHING". IRONICALLY, DOCTORS, EVEN GAY AND AGNOSTIC DOCTORS, ARE HEALING AND SAVING LIVES OF THE SAME CHRISTIANS THAT VIEW THEM AS AN ABOMINATION.

[@tinkerbell8507]

TiffMiller1234, for years now you are putting this comment on nearly every YT story!!!

[@osks]

“The reason I believe God is true is because He is the best explanation for the way things are” REALLY Greg? Who made YOU the arbiter to judge whether God is true? By judging God as the ‘best explanation’ you in fact relegate God as nothing more than the conclusion to your own reasoning! The ‘god’ whom you deem as ‘reasonable’ is a god after your own making - he is an idol! He is nothing like the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! “Let God be true and every man a liar” - Romans 3:4

[@matthewheadland7307]

22:21 origami pterodactyl! Might use that next time 😂 Maybe thinking of a crane? :)

[@Repentee]

3:30 And I will add and the reason we’ve come to believe and hold fast to these things, rather hold fast to the God who has made such a world is by the grace of God.

[@alivebythegraceofgod2935]

David Wood also recommended Tactics.

[@Carolinetheprayergirl]

love this!

[@bestmimi]

Lord help us.

[@sojournersunrise2290]

just cause we have eyes, we think we've seen it all. just 'cause we have ears, we think we've heard it all. just cause we can touch, we think we feel what's right. "Taste and see that God is Good" ! =- T

[@lovelivelaugh7712]

Thank you for your videos!

[@SilverDoveTx]

Not by might not by power but by my spirit says the Lord. Just walk in His Love and pray with them - let God do the work. If you are listening to the HG then He will tell you what to say to them personally - He loves them and you are to be His vessel. No need for you to prove anything just pray with them and let the Lord lead your words.

[@razorback7158]

Faith that’s all I need

[@ramoth777]

II Corinthians 5:7

[@hsrryobrien993]

James 2:14

[@AlanHitchner]

We have nothing to lose if we dare to ask God to reveal Himself to us but potentially everything to gain. Dare to ask Earnestly and then resolve to watch and look for a response however subtle. Then if you recognize a possible response seriously consider it and leave yourself open to further evidence.

[@Gluesticky21]

The whole problem is not about going against Christianity. You shouldn't follow any form of organized religion, period.

[@drlaurav]

You are correct. The women went on Sunday morning to embalm Him, but He had risen already.

[@johnnybgood7442]

You know what else would work? Actually providing good evidence for the claims. Still waiting on that one

[@jsshay01]

You’re alive and living and breathing. God planned you before you were born. He gives you good things. You’re here, listening and commenting. That alone is miraculous! God loves you so much He knows the number of hairs on your head and the day you will die. Choose Him. Life isn’t guaranteed and once you die it’s too late!😔🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️

[@johnnybgood7442]

@@jsshay01 that's not evidence at all. That is just another claim. That just illustrates my point.

[@l.skynard8965]

Read through the Bible for yourself, just read the New Testament, from Matthew through Revelations, and I know you will have your evidence. It's no one's job to prove to you that it's real, Jesus just tells of to share the good news and it's up to each person to chose for themselves whether to believe but how can you chose to believe if your not willing to read it for yourself and make an educated decision by what you read for yourself? Just ask God before you began to show you if He is real or not and when your finished then make your choice whether or not you believe.

[@johnnybgood7442]

@@l.skynard8965 cute theory. Only problem is that you’re talking to a former Christian for over 20 years and studying the Bible was a huge part of why I’m now an atheist. Also, we don’t “choose” our beliefs. Lastly, the Bible is part of the claim, it’s not the evidence.

[@justinb1261]

​@johnnybgood7442 what kind of evidence are you truly seeking? As a convert I can point out the beautiful blessings I never saw before that prove we have a creator...but I never saw them before because I was not looking.. no amount of evidence will prove to a non believer that God exists just as no amount of evidence will prove to a believer that he doesn't exist.

[@Jesus.Loves.You7]

13:10 - the same holds true in the reverse. A claimant bears the burn of proof. That's legalese. If, therefore, a Christian makes an equal claim that God is real and true, then the burden of proof lies on the Christian making the claim. 1 Peter 3:15 (ESV) 15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect.

[@troypeterson6615]

Awesome

[@tslilbearshoppe9870]

I thought God didn't need defending because.....he's God. I found myself doing it anyway because it makes me really upset to hear anyone curse him or make light of his power. I realized that some people do not want to be saved, hear the truth or know anything about God. What do we do with people like that? It's like swimming upstream with 10 bowling balls around your ankles. You flap your arms but you don't get anywhere and you end up EXHAUSTED.

[@takearight.]

Good analogy.. I defend too..(sometimes a tad too adamant..gotta watch that)..😃

[@tslilbearshoppe9870]

@@takearight. Me too and I have a temper lol and I'm a NY'er so.....

[@cristiecrawford1733]

“Defending” in apologetics is not the same as defending in a fight. It is giving evidence to non-believers/seekers about why God is true. Consider it evidence, food for thought for unbelievers who often say things based on pointless hearsay.

[@cristiecrawford1733]

It is not so much defensive as it is more blowing holes in the ideas of unbelievers so they might actually see the truth.

[@lynnfielding4942]

Sometimes, it's best not to put pearls on swine...

[@LookOutForNumberOne]

I have heard many dishonest christians but this guy takes the Oscar. He specialises in shifting the ɓurden.

[@oterosocram25]

There will be no evidence big enough that will ever convince a cold heart and stubborn mind like yours. There is plenty of evidence but conveniently not one of them meet your standards. You can’t treat faith like a scientific experiment, although there is plenty of tangible evidence, Christianity is a non-tangible matter. The most dishonest person is the one that makes his life a career to argue in vain, not allowing the information to simmer for minute for even allow the possibility that there can be a immaterial, timeless and spaceless being that made all of this.

[@ronaldfurr3132]

Honesty and Religion don't mix.

[@ericbabcock3130]

This comment is the best comment because it’s the best explanation on why it’s the best comment.

[@bchristian85]

Whether there is a God or not is a separate question from whether or not today's politicized evangelical Christianity is actually serving God or is more interested in worldly power. If there is a God, his representatives are NOT the current Republican Party.

[@janiedunn637]

❤ listening to Kirk & Greg. Very interesting 🤔

[@ministeriosgonzalezgonzale8344]

Amén

[@RickyMasterChiefLaw]

Yes I've learned to refute with burden of proof claim back to them. Usually they will run away

[@vladtheemailer3223]

You learned to lie?

[@RickyMasterChiefLaw]

@@vladtheemailer3223 How would you conclude that?

[@vladtheemailer3223]

@@RickyMasterChiefLaw You either hold the burden or you do not. It's not something you refute. If you try to shift it onto your opponent, that is the "burden of proof fallacy" which is also an argument from ignorance. It's a very dishonest way of talking to people that do not share your beliefs.

[@RickyMasterChiefLaw]

​@@vladtheemailer3223well we have proof. It's yours to show proof for your belief as well. That's how to back up your claim.

[@vladtheemailer3223]

@RickyMasterChiefLaw Then I've proven God doesn't exist. That isn't how the burden of proof works. Beliefs carry no burden of proof. It applies to a discussion or debate. What you're are saying negates the burden of proof.

[@WORDversesWORLD]

No True Believer has to explain the Truth that is God, we need none! We stand on Faith!

[@76sherie]

Then what do you do when someone has real questions? Because if you’re going to be effective at helping others find the Lord (which we are all commanded to do) then you need more then because I believe it! Christianity is a very responsible faith but so few Christians have the ability to engage those conversations effectively and we are commanded to; “but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;” ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭15‬

[@WORDversesWORLD]

@@76sherie You must think you're right to be able to answer all questions then! And the written word say's we need no one to teach us anything, so if we need no man or his books then where to we find our answers? Through the Holy Spirit who dwells in us, not man! And out of the thousands and thousands of books written by man which book do you believe is the Absolute Truth? All of them or just your church copy? And out of 4300 religions in the world which is Absolute Truth? None of them are! No man can speak for God ever! We live by Faith alone! And the day that Absolute Truth comes, Jesus is here!

[@76sherie]

@@WORDversesWORLD The Bible is absolute truth. And Christianity is not a religion it’s a relationship with God. And yes the Holy Spirit teaches us. But we are also told to test the spirits told our hearts are deceptive above all else so we need to study the Word so we know if what we think we hear is actually from the Lord! And Paul rebuked believers who didn’t! “For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭5‬:‭12‬ It is a very dangerous thing to take one scripture and base you faith on it you need to take the Scripture as a whole in to account in every area

[@lva9821]

Well, I am trying to follow Jesus'example who taught and testified all through his ministry and commissioned his apostles to do likewise.

[@WORDversesWORLD]

@@lva9821 Except he doesn't follow Jesus, he follows his own worldly teaching, sorry!

[@annemaritellertsen805]

I think Mr. Koukl is on to something very important here. I just want to point out that he said at about 21:10 that Jesus was mummified; full of herbs. That is not true, the women brought the herbs to His grave on the third day and found the empty tomb. They never got to do their "herb-thing", that is in the center of the story.

[@kpkpm3604]

God is true is because he is the best explanation for the way things are. Of course, that was the case for more than 2000 years. The ancient Greek e.g. explained lightning and thunder as god's anger. That god was called Zeus. But today, science explains much better "the way things are". I am just wondering, what thing did the god of the bible actually explain?

[@69eddieD]

Once upon a time the Gawd of the bible explained everything. Now, it explains nothing.

[@kpkpm3604]

@@69eddieD nothing seems to be the the right answer. I have heard nothing to the contrary.

[@tylerquattrini3204]

If Christianity is made to control people, why does the core of it state to reject the seven things most easily used to control people? Pride, lust, laziness, gluttony, greed, jealousy and wrath? Telling people to embrace those things opens the door to control them without even lifting a finger.

[@vladtheemailer3223]

Slave morality.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

There is no truth without God. Without the Son, there is no truth. Of old thou hast laid the foundations, they shall wax old like a garment, like a vesture they shall be changed, they shall perish, but thou shalt endure forever. An atheist is forced to reconcile a finite universe with ultimate truth, and they can’t do it, because it’s impossible. All you have are paradigms of perceived truth, never a 100% certain truth. However Christ, existent before creation, during, and after, remains forever. Always and always. There is no greater truth than him. Therefore our perfect law is in him.

[@robertlight5227]

Here's a tactic to best any Christian. Ask for physical evidence for their claims. Facts over faith!

[@melissadeloach8503]

What physical evidence specifically?

[@robertlight5227]

Grave goods, artefacts, coinage, contemporary monuments, royal seals. A body. Even King Tut left us rooms of the stuff and his body. Your alleged JC? Nada.@@melissadeloach8503 Your creed is based on a Sumerian fable about a bare naked lady taking dietary advice from a chatty snake. Absurd! Your 'evidence' is merely copies of copies of copies of copies from lost manuscripts by unknown authors in Greek.

[@kennywong5857]

@@robertlight5227 What evidence do you have that Biden won the election? The cruel fact is, humans don't rely on evidence to approach truths for a reason, go figure it out.

[@LeonSemiPro]

​@@kennywong5857This human does. The 2020 election has objective data. That data was acted on. Disputing the data with only an opinion is just that - a whim.

[@kennywong5857]

@@LeonSemiPro BS. Then what is the Big Lie, and more importantly why it conveyed if data was so envidenced as you claimed here?! As a matter of fact, the public had no choice but to choose a media to believe. Humans don't have the evidence whatsoever, that's how the Big Lie can propagate. Individually speaking, please descirbe how you obtained the data you claimed here as your evidence personally. Please elabarate how you obtained the data, at an individual level, as the evidence for you to be sure that Biden or Trump won the election.

[@o4q]

There are many presuppositions here. First, I'm not sure where Christians get the idea that morality can't be a product of logic and reason, that it has to be spiritual. My sense of right and wrong comes from what I believe is beneficial to society and what is not. I'm not sure how that can only be the domain of faith.

[@HavenNichols-kg5tr]

Not everyone's sense of right or wrong can be like that. If we take Hitler, he honestly believed that to make the perfect race, he had to eliminate every Jew. Was it beneficial to society? No. Was it right in his eyes? Yes

[@jaryyang1236]

Using your logic against itself, if we do what we believe to be right as a benefit to society, then the holocaust and what Hitler did was justifiable, because him and all his followers believed that what they were doing was “beneficial for society”. That’s what happens when we leave morals up to humans. We get people like Hitler, Genghis Khan, and other evil people who are justifying their evil as “benefits to society.”

[@surfrusty12]

Because different people and different groups believe different things are beneficial to society. Hitler and the Nazis believed that killing millions of innocent people was beneficial to society. If your basis for measuring right and wrong is just your own beliefs, you have no basis for saying anything is wrong because another person might have a different belief. This makes the worldview unworkable because nobody can ever say anything is right or wrong, even something as terrible as the holocaust. If right and wrong are only a product of your own beliefs, then there is no right or wrong, because anybody can believe anything. But you and I both know, on a fundamental level, that rape and murder are objectively wrong. That’s not our belief. We know for a fact they are wrong. The difference is, I can justify my knowledge that they are wrong because I have an objective moral authority (God). You can’t justify your knowledge that they are wrong because you do not have a standard beyond you and anybody else that objectively defines what is wrong. Even the very idea of “benefitting” society requires some standard of right and wrong beyond your own beliefs. If you define what is good by what you believe benefits society, you are presupposing that benefitting society is a good thing in the first place versus harming society. Why is benefitting society good? Why is human survival and human flourishing good if there is no god and we are nothing more than molecules? Evolution might instill in us certain behaviors that lend themselves to our survival, but evolution is just a natural process. It can’t dictate what is right or wrong, i.e. what ought to be or what ought not to be. And evolutionary behavior to further our survival still doesn’t explain why our survival is a good thing in the first place, as opposed to us not surviving.

[@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING]

​@@surfrusty12​ So if we say that these things are morally wrong because: We have empathy We live in a social society We don't wish pain upon others of our species We don't wish to suffer from these things ourselves We have biological drive to progress our species Then we don't have any justification in that claim? But if you say that you are objectively correct because your book written by people who didn't know where the sun went at night is infallible? 😂

[@surfrusty12]

@@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING No, you don’t. You’re just presupposing that all of those things are good. You cannot justify with objectivity why any of them are good. Objective morality doesn’t come from a book. It comes from the nature of the living God who created and sustains all things, and it is imprinted on everybody, whether they will admit it or not. But you are free to suppress it. You don’t have to do what is right. You have a choice.

[@lisaortiz8168]

When people's say that God the creator of Heaven and Earth doesn't exist iam still waiting for those people's to tell me the person that put the sun and the stars and the moon up in the sky they can Not answer it !

[@robertlight5227]

What is the physical evidence for the claim of a physical living Jesus?

[@chasson321]

Kirk you like to use the Old Testament, how do you explain Leviticus 25 and the provision God made for Israel to obtain permanent slaves. How is slavery, genocide, land grabbing and racism in other parts of the book ever justifiable?

[@alexanderv7702]

Which church represents Christianity as the most Biblical?

[@doncmpa]

A Biblical one.

[@wprandall2452]

a most sincere biblical_one@@doncmpa

[@truthseeker7867]

So he believed first, THEN looked for evidence. That’s a weird order to go in.

[@kurtgundy]

Not everyone needs apologetics to believe. God's word is powerful, and it alone can convince people it is true.

[@georgesamuel4403]

John 14:21…manifest…& Matthew 16:17 …it unto thee… (K.J.V.) are the way God does .

[@jonathansmiddy7224]

Hey don't crucify me for saying this but why so many denominations? I've got 35 *different Christian churches within 5 miles of my house. How do I figure out which church is the true church? Thanks.

[@itlupe]

The problem here... "The Holy Spirit began to work on me..." Nope. Eph 1:13 - Hear the word, believe, have faith it is the truth and THEN we are indwelled by the Holy Spirit.

[@billbrock8547]

Humans live in groups, and like all social animals we've evolved a system of cooperation that makes group living possible. We call our system morality. A behaviour is judged to be good or bad by the effect it has on the group. Good behaviour reinforces group cohesion, and bad behaviour undermines it. No deity is required.

[@mjsmith-jones7607]

Some people help their fellow man other people feel it's all right to eat them