Kiss FC Setup Tutorial

[@leonfpv8261]

Man talk about perfect timing. I'm in the middle of my Alien build right now, and was a little foggy on what to do once it's all together. You guys rule! Keep up the great work.

[@regexpert3237]

Chad Kapper, THANK YOU for not saying "backslash" for a normal slash. Seriously.

[@RotorRiot]

+Regexpert you are very welcome! -CK

[@mikecapps8723]

Rotor Riot is there any way to flash Kiss FC if boot button has been damaged?

[@TB7445]

you guys should put Chad on your shop. I can assure you that it would become your best selling item. Everyone need a Chad in their life

[@mtlracing1567]

which one? :P

[@TB7445]

Both really both my suggestion is fully open :)

[@michaelbrewer7259]

Thanks guys, I'm in the process of picking up a KISS FC and ESC's. This came in very handy!

[@MSFloriandel]

I can see the Carbon Hornet in the background. very nice can't wait to see that video

[@rambozo_fpv176]

Flite Test = Josh & Josh, RotorRiot = Chad & Chad... mind blown.

[@mendelkreitenberg6094]

I don't know if you guys intended to show the USA frame sitting in the back but I am looking forward to that review...Great vid as always

[@lukefpv1745]

Another great vid guys. Loved hearing about rates as I find its a key part to the feel and tune of a quad.

[@mikaeltatsiz]

Just got my Kiss FC the day before this video came out! Perfect timing!

[@nelsonoe23]

I LOVE YOU ! Yesterday i bought my first kiss fc, so you help me so much ! (From France)

[@zet0korp]

Great video. Thanks. For once the information is complete and succinct

[@moyoymendez626]

nice way to build up for the hornet in the background, can't wait to see the video xD

[@JasonRidesmoto]

Nice Easter egg with the Hornet 2B in the background!

[@robinsieg9400]

I started my quard after i followed all of your instructions( Build, Kiss Setup, Taranis Setup). I was close to loose the alien within the first flight. You didnt mentioned the esc calibration, as well as motor spinning direction (i used a different motor; soldering 1 and 3 bridge was therefore wrong) and prop mounting at all in eather one of the build videos. After i armed the quad it flew around 400 m within 10 seconds over 40 m high trees into a small forrest. Houres later i luckily found it. It was like the absolute horror!!! Please make sure you inform people about aforementioned.

[@matthewbaker1960]

can't wait to see the tuning video

[@JarcodeRover]

Great timing, yesterday i just got my 1st Kiss fc!!

[@DKTek07]

Perfect timing guys, my 5" Alien should be ready for this in a week!

[@shortcircuitrc6865]

FinalGlideAus makes the best intros. Great video as always!

[@RodneyFlysRc]

Thanks guys this video helped solve some set up problems I was having

[@MDP1980]

good vids, I get my kissfc today , I can t wait

[@Retrospelaren]

This episode couldn't have come at a better day. I building two Aliens with Kiss and Lumeniere. Thank you.

[@andrewnye9402]

My FC arrived 12 hours ago this is fantastic timing !

[@nathboz]

Another greatly informative vid, thanks Chad(s)👍🏽

[@biffedvin6234]

Thank you for all the helpful videos Rotor Riot! I really appreciate it. :)

[@flowbotoptics8085]

Sick! Built up Hornet 2B in the background!

[@lcurole]

You don't have to hold the button down the whole time, just when you plug it in and when it removes the read protection. Also, the GUI FC flasher won't work in Windows because of driver issues. You have to use the dfuse demo flasher. Great Video!

[@drkavnger99]

so much for keep it simple lmao

[@drkavnger99]

the windows issue is a biggie though. Not the place to argue it out as it's been done ad naseum. as a kiss fc owner the drm stuff is more irritating then anything else.

[@FinalGlideAus]

Thanks! It's just easier to explain to hold the button down the entire time. The Windows Driver issue was mentioned.

[@lcurole]

+Chris Ames Flashing with dfuse isn't really that bad tbh. The drm isn't bad either especially since they fixed the issue with android resetting activation.

[@lcurole]

+FinalGlideAus Sorry, I did not notice that part. I'm really liking the new esc firmware and am looking forward to the FC firmware with better bounceback handling.

[@veronly2]

First time that I'm aching for a video (hornet quid in the background)!

[@clint574]

Will you do an episode on airmode vs using an idle up switch on your radio to describe the pros and cons that you mention?

[@NJFPV]

Just wanted to edit this - I disassembled the quad, pulled the lead from the x4r and desoldered it, resoldered another one (exactly as the other one was) and it worked... Good signal. Holy crap does this thing fly well. Been flyig a qav250 and thought I knew what a locked in, lightweight quad felt like. Nope... I had no idea... This is going to b fun :)

[@NJFPV]

I managed to get the FC firmware working by using a mac - flashed successfully. But, still no input from the TX / RX to the controller. Guess its time to disassemble...

[@orionfpv613]

that quadcopter in the background is gonna fall off the shelf.

[@rycop]

Thanks for making this vid, Chad & Chad! Sure, lots of folks like me who've been flying KISS for over a year now will have learned most of this stuff the hard way but it's great to see somebody do an up to date KISS setup vid. I'm sure this'll help a lot of folks get up and running KISS easier! When I watch this it also hits home just how much Flyduino have done since initial release. Remember soldering to flash firmware? Remember the old GUI with no TPA & curves? Lol. Also, thanks for sharing your PIDS and rates, Chad Nowak. I know that those rates are a highly personal thing which take a ton of work to get dialled so I very much appreciate you sharing that publicly despite all the hard work you must have done on those. If anything it gives a really useful reference point from somebody who knows their stuff. One question: What's the thinking behind running more aggressive yaw rates versus roll & pitch? I ask because my yaw is a bit less aggressive than my roll & pitch rates and I kind of like it. Of course I could always just try & see (duh) but your comments are always interesting. I used to run low-ish RC Rate, higher Rate and some pretty crazy expo on the RC curve (with a massive degrees per second potential in terms of overall roll speed) which was fun for a while but I've gradually ended up kind of closer to where you're at - a flatter, less exponential looking curve overall using more RC Rate, a bit less Rate and minimal RC Curve with FAR less insane amounts of overall max degrees per. With the new less insane setup everything actually feels more progressive and more precise yet still nice and smooth after I slowed the crazy 'degrees per second' stuff down and got rid of a lot of the exponential I needed in order to be able to even fly a super aggressive setup like that. Even at 2.5 flips per second I find I have plenty of ability to pull off cool stuff. Just different flying maybe. Anyhow huge cheers! Sorry for rambling. Thanks for adding value to the community once again!

[@FinalGlideAus]

Thanks mate, I just want my yaw to be more twitchy.

[@christopherpauley8174]

thanks for airmode info - nice video!!

[@deeeeeds]

I don't know why I watch these videos, I drank the Betaflight Koolaid a while back. I just love the Chad and Chad in the lab style videos though.

[@Backroads_FPV]

Y’all should make an updated how to setup kiss through the GUI video. Especially with the new video of Vanover putting kiss on y’all’s quads!

[@lookout816]

I got a Kiss fc from RR, love it!

[@eddieblack971]

Great job Chad's..... Good Video Great info.

[@CapnxChar]

great video guys but I was really hoping to have a detailed PID tuning walkthrough with the KISS FC.

[@fsarfino]

Thanks for the vid Chad. I see that Ragg-e frame in the background looks built how does it fly. It certainly looks cool

[@1604max1979]

Would be nice a video about updating the firmware for KISS ESC 24A v1.01. You are the best!!!

[@michaelpetale6872]

Great info guys! Keep these vids going as they are dynamite for the likes of needs like me!🤔😀😜👍🥇

[@mendelkreitenberg6094]

I can be mistaken but if you look careful at the frame on the shelf under the hornet it looks like that one for the UK.

[@kestrelflyer7637]

Year Rotor Riot, ur the best!!

[@wynnfpv]

Great setup vid!!

[@DroneracersNl]

Great guys keep up the good work!

[@TheRattleSnake3145]

can you do a video on how to get the FC to be recognized by the computer?

[@anthonykuban3294]

For reference i don't believe you need to hold the boot loader button the entire time. I only hold it for the first few seconds of the fc start-up, and then let go, i was still able to flash firmware this way.

[@dannymilton5874]

It's easier to explain rate and curve if you watch how the diagram will change with different numbers in the GUI

[@ryanbunnell7488]

love you videos. as a new guy to quads and the kiss products these have helped me to get started. I would love to see some of the Taranis logic switch you all use for different settings like arming, air mode, level mode, & angle modes. where do you all go for the different sound files you have loaded?

[@HowToDIYRc]

why can they choose out of 6 different ppm and me only have 4 different ppm in kiss gui???

[@troyd-motorsport9933]

Everyone NOTE: 1. Upgrade your FC before your ESC's. 2. If running Windows 10, you will need to upgrade your FC using a bootloader such as DfuSe Demo.. After that (for reference, I am running windows 10 on a Surface Pro 3 and upgraded to KISSFC-1.1RC6), you can then use the gui to flash your esc's. I hope this helps :)

[@Freedom__-xd5bx]

what's the best pdb and fc setup for reliability, user friendly, led, gps option, up to 6s, osd, telemetry? thanks. love all yours vids.

[@alexanderfedorov7890]

Nicely done mate!

[@rycop]

Fedorcommander for president! Lol

[@ceecrb1]

Have the mid throttle oscilations been fixed? I also suffered from two kiss 24a escs going failsafe in two flights costing me two lumenier frames in two flying sessions. I liked kiss but I've shelved it for betaflight untill they fix everything as I didnt feel like i got the software quality for the price paid.

[@GoGupGo]

Thank you so much. Question... I am flying spectrum DX8 and do you add any Expo in the radio? I really like this kiss flight control it looks very simple.

[@ZacharyPiercy]

Helpful video! I would say that the sound level between talking and the title screens is a bit too off though.

[@j-rodfpv1137]

How do I up date firmware if the FC has firmware that to old to connnect to the configurator ? Can anybody help

[@ChillerFPV]

HOW ABOUT FLASHING esc's with kiss esc and FC on the kiss PDB carrier board soldered?

[@madsloper]

I can't even connect to the GUI after upgrading to 1.3 RC34c on FC from 2016 through the DFU. I can't even get connected to the GUI to registration the FC?

[@AiroFpv]

I see that new build is done! nice little hints! hahahahahahh

[@soccerreviews4u]

Same can't wait

[@michaeldobies1846]

I thought the same thing lol

[@thomashatch5221]

Kissfc

[@jackbeta]

Hi Rotor Riot, any chance of doing a vid on Furious FPV's Kombini FC???

[@ptixcc314]

Please review tbs tango compare to taranis and the crossfire that mr.steele use

[@fIysohigh]

16:46 That's how all the USB connectors got ripped off :)

[@SajaksFavorites]

Q: after power on .. all kiss esc 30a blue light is ON, but than 1 of the ESC light is OFF what happen, what should I do next

[@waveriderdwf4007]

Hi, on my KISS FC. how do you add LEDs to my Quad using the FC and to change the color too

[@yolkolai]

Do you need a driver for your computer to recognise the kiss fc?

[@DallyDDD]

I use level mode now and then just for LOS flying, never in FPV. A lot of time the quad will tilt to one side or forward/backward by itself in level mode. Is there a reason for this, gyro faulty??? or something wrong. I dont use it much, usually just to see how fast it is or to muck around, as in LOS i can never tell which way my quad is facing etc.

[@tommykfpv2986]

Chad do you have a link for the pre release firmware for both fc and escs?

[@electricjohn1]

Built a drone using kissCC GUI1.13 FW 1.1rc6. Need to remap the motors and how to set up arming and flight modes.{Transmitter has all the inputs and mixers set up}. Need help

[@natetrombley9488]

just finished a build, but cannot enter boot loader mode while holding down the button, my com ports change, and when i connect, i get no firmware flasher option, and cannot access tabs. please help?

[@ocdpfsas]

Can connect to the GUI fine normally but when I hold down the bootloader button, no ports are available in the GUI. Can't connect at all unless I release the button. Any ideas?

[@Greyspacealien]

You guys rock!

[@davidfrederick1925]

Thanks for the tutorial! I followed it just as described. Only it didnt go quite as well for me. The update failed and said that a chip could not be found. Now its seems to be bricked. I cant get it to connect to the gui or even arm. What now? Am i screwed? yes i used a mac.

[@BikeGuyFPV]

What would one need to do if the boot loader button got ripped off? I've got no status light. Suggestions?

[@csz8220]

Great guide guys, thanks! Is there any way to check for version besides the sticker? Mine doesn't have one...

[@Orion_4]

Please help... I have just built a quad. When I throttlwe up motors 1, 2 and 4 spin up, a bit higher, about half way up motor 3 kicks in. I know in cleanflight and libre pilot you can set the min rpm for a motor. how can i do this in kiss gui?

[@adamkelly6264]

**inhales deeply** ah, yes. This is the good stuff....

[@MirkoFPV]

you can use cleanflight for setup?

[@FinalGlideAus]

No

[@joseyabbott9190]

hey what do you guys think about the kiss esc pdb?! is there any benefits other than a cleaner build?! also is there any heating issues with it? i ask because it just doesn't seem to give them (escs) room to breath!

[@jaredturner3079]

Had massive problems with this Fc, but after finding the bind button was not working (it eventually fell off) I did get it to flash. The Kiss software is hard to use and set up (I am planning to give it another try soon). Chad said it works with a Mac, but I think the Kiss drivers for Windows need work. After flashing with beta flight I have had no problems with it and find it is very good. Not having pass though is a major pain also, I hope they fix some of these issues with V2 especially the boot button and pass through.

[@otis1891]

Ok. No boot mode. No firmware selection option with usb/boot button. The blue led slow flashes continuously. Downloaded the latest firmware via dfuse. If it won't connect via usb/boot button, how do I activate it?

[@CYCOJOE888]

hm chad and chad here, and josh and josh at flite test :)

[@vincentvitulano8306]

I just built a alien 5" with kiss everything, but when I plug battery in all escs turn on and then one blur light goes off, I've checked every wire up and down, but can't figure out the issue, do you know what that might mean?

[@samueletirinato9443]

Hi, I have read the V battery in the screen motor gui, you only if we have the esc kiss? I got some esc favourite, I connected the kiss to vcc and gnd, but not pdb matek on makes me see the voltage of the battery in the gui screen. Why? Hi from Italy.

[@danielschilling4432]

KissFC does not change when I plug in while holding the boot button. It doesn't give me the option to change the COM channel and nothing comes up about flashing the firmware. When I plug in without holding the boot button it KissFC automatically changes to COM3 as it corresponds to my quad. Am I doing something wrong?

[@noshbrooks]

Lol asked for this in my order notes from the store. Nice.

[@RotorRiot]

+Noah Brooks you're welcome!

[@marvindelrosario]

when you setup for airmode to be enabled after flashing to the newest fw, does the quad still want to take off shortly after arming?

[@FinalGlideAus]

Not if you setup min throttle correctly

[@marvindelrosario]

should i just play with min throttle numbers till the the slow ramp up to taking off disappears?

[@ArdudroneF]

can you explane me what flight mode have the kiss fc? cc3d have stabilizze,acro,rate ecc. betaflight have horizon,angle ecc but I dont undstand the kiss fc. please can you explane me? I'm sorry for my bad english....

[@cpsrcp90]

pls explain!

[@ArdudroneF]

I'm ok now...kiss fc have only livel and acro mode!

[@cpsrcp90]

aux 1 high and aux2 high ? aRM AND LEVEL?

[@allanrbo]

Chad rocks!

[@strokers7729]

What batteries should I get for a build like this?

[@kennethwang7045]

Wait, PWM is universal to all escs and servos, right? So I could use little bee ESCs or DYS ESCs with the Flyduino KISS.

[@MrPlayDan]

Hi, I've just got the Kiss FC at the Kiss 24A ESC's and have been looking at this video to see how I should set everything up. Is there anything different today to what you showed us in this video or are there things that I should know now that Dshot is available for example. I know a few people who keep burning up these ESC's and I'd like to learn all I can to avoid that happening to me and maybe I can help these guys out myself if I notice that they are doing something wrong. Thanks in advance

[@waveriderdwf4007]

Does the Kiss FC offer an LED program like Cleanflight ?

[@waveriderdwf4007]

how come I'm not getting my port to open up on the KISS FC set up page?

[@kjparenteau]

KISS vs Naze32? My quad is built with Naze32 and RotorGeeks RG20's currently. Would there be any major benefit to moving to KISS FC and ESC? If so, please explain. Thanks!

[@dtmpowerboss]

how do u reverse esc one is spinning wrong way

[@cucubits]

So what's the current situation with the kiss fc? I'm getting one and don't know if I should do this or go with betaflight on it.

[@jjingolf]

my MAC is not recognizing the FC. Do I need to do something else in order to get my computer to recognize it?? Thanks for the help!

[@FC_MKUltra]

ok so no matter what I do I cant get the kiss ui to give me the option to flash the fc iv done it through defuse but hwn I go back into the ui it atill says v 1.02

[@justinRkeaton]

my flight controller says v.1.03 but when I plugged it in to activate it it say version 1.01? how can I change it ?

[@DWreckFPV]

Rotor Riot, great video. Thank you so myuch! However, I cannot find the KISS ESC firmware at kiss.flyduino.net/downloads/ I only see the FC firmware. Any help is appreciated.