Kiss Ultra / Archon v3 Waffle after testing

[@CoppertopFPV]

edit. to get current you change camera control on the advanced tab of the osd to current. you can then come out and go to hardware tools and current calib will be there. if you flick to the end of the flight you'll see some of the crashes I had. I purposefully left the props on as I wanted to see how it handled them (I'd usually switch) but motors remained cool even with rebent and bitten props. I will say I usually run kiss with adaptive filter off however in my hover tests this caused throttle bobbles so I added the filter back in before flying. Obviously more testing to do around blheli settings.

[@alexanderfedorov7890]

Hahahah! I see you also did some ULTRA crash test :)))) Thanks for kind words mate!!!! I like your scepticism... Makes less BS go around!

[@finleystannard]

I've done plenty of they as well haha, some proper hard smacks into the ground

[@alexanderfedorov7890]

@@finleystannard i think after that "bando" crash roll video we have in the test group - i declare ultra crash proof ;)))

[@CoppertopFPV]

@@alexanderfedorov7890 it's bounces very nicely 😁

[@ptixcc314]

Thanks for the video! Im looking into my first kiss too and Im getting the kiss ultra to use with the BLHeli_32 ESCs and the Caddx Vista.

[@williambarth5271]

Great flight sounds good, it handled the first high five from that tree like a champ. Thats ultra good😉🙌

[@justinslaight]

Thats amazing bro! Yea I'm pretty pissed bout fettec, my first 2 fettec builds are bulletproof! But now, I've had 3 shit esc, no crashes just failing....So happy to see this ultra will be good without that esc! Thanks brother!

[@definingslawek4731]

I am doing my first kiss build, I was looking at my options for esc's, the 4 in 1 kiss is only 25 amps and rated to '2-5's and I fly 6s... So then I thought I'd just do kiss ultra but with the fettec 4 in 1, but spike absorber sounds annoying. From this video though it sounds like I can just use a blheli... I hope it still has the kiss performance that I am building the thing for. Which esc's did you use, were they the fettec 4 in 1s ? and they haven't worked well for you?

[@RATRH13]

very nice and the flight was sick and looks like it takes crashes good to .

[@skyweaver3199]

What was the auw for this build? If ya don't mind me asking. Also, thank you for all the input on this. I have got mine on the way, and it will be the first time I fly kiss. Ever. So I am very excited. I own two 4in1 ESCs that should pair well. The Tekko 32 F4 65 amp Metal, and the Redux 32 F4.

[@ghafoorhussain6677]

Love it!! nice one.

[@chrishiggins7475]

Hi Ross am sure you'll have mention it but do we still need blheli 4in1 escs with 4 shunts to get mah and current readings using the kissx2 ultra? Thanks

[@CoppertopFPV]

No mate that's what he fixed. If you have an old one with 4 it should work without using the cc pad

[@chrishiggins7475]

@@CoppertopFPV diamond thanks Ross 👍

[@3000gtwelder]

Where is this place you are flying at the end? Such a cool place!

[@mattraymond2935]

sweet subbed

[@KonstantinFPV]

Can i get a bit more info about f4 esc? Can it be used for Kiss ultra FCFC or better to find and buy f3?

[@CoppertopFPV]

F4s were causing problems and federov said to avoid. I've since heard that some people's are OK and others not so whether that's down to blheli settings or specific escs I don't know. I have a test flight due with the zeez esc which uses an L4 so fingers crossed.... Best to ask on the discord

[@KonstantinFPV]

@@CoppertopFPV anyway everything needed for FcFc build is out of stock, so it would not be the fastest build.

[@definingslawek4731]

I'm planning my first kiss build, a 6s 5 inch halo rc long body for cinematic / freestyle stuff. what kiss stuff do I want for it? I thought theres not much choice and I just want the new fettec 4 in 1 esc and the fettec kiss v2 fc also how often does it come back in stock

[@CoppertopFPV]

lots to cover there. you can run fettec 45amp esc and fc but many people have had issues with the esc smoking (I haven't beyond a few duff fcs) . I also prefer the kiss v2 flight controller layout over its fettec counterpart. on both of those you will not have rth on failsafe if using GPS unless you are a patreon of Alexander Fedorov, or you wait for kiss ultra to be in stock, go with that and use fettec kiss or blheli escs. Kiss Ultra is the best of all of them. it's kiss with an osd, blheli pass thru more uarts gps rth and all the rest but it isn't readily available yet. A number of build videos on all the fettec kiss v2 stuff and the Osiris in older vids

[@williambarth5271]

Long range and cine type flying you don't want a 4-1, and you want a kiss V2, with single 32 amp escs or 25 amp for lighter builds. Smooth as butter and efficient. 5 years of FPV, 3 years of it on KISS

[@definingslawek4731]

@@williambarth5271 Idk how long range I'll be going really, smooth slow and fast flying across beautiful landscapes or chasing cool targets. How comes I don't want the 4 in 1? are individual esc's lighter? (I was thinking 4 in 1 would be best as I want this hero 9/10 carrying 5 inch to be as light as possible for best power/performance and more importantly flight time) The halorc osiris arms are pretty skinny I don't know if I could fit individual escs. by kiss v2 you're referencing the kiss v2 fettec fc right? thanks

[@definingslawek4731]

@@CoppertopFPV thanks alot for the help! so kiss ultra is the newest kiss FC right now I haven't found ANY kiss FC's in stock in uk so I guess I can wait till I find the ultra in stock. Someone suggested not using 4 in 1 escs and using individuals. I dunno how I would fit them on a halo rc osiris long body tho. The osd is useful if i wanna put analogue on it? or is osd necessary also when DJI gives us canvas mode and we can put anything on the osd.

[@CoppertopFPV]

@@definingslawek4731 yourfpv.co.uk has kiss v2 i think. Good little store. pricey but such is the state of everything right now 😟

[@pixelcomet]

fcfc the teaser tool for reviewers, never approaching the market^^

[@CoppertopFPV]

😜

[@markstevensfpv3722]

That setup really works for you mate! Cracking flying! 👏 Are you running more camera angle than you usually do as well? Looks pretty nippy!

[@CoppertopFPV]

touch more. I amended the hero mount so it's about 25 degrees and cam is similar

[@thatfpvdude8408]

Is any of the issues related to the ultra?

[@CoppertopFPV]

shonky vista and then double start up tones with blheli. seems ultra takes a fraction longer to boot up so on this particular esc it fires the start up tones twice. tried everything before Alexander explained that. No issues when it's booted.

[@thatfpvdude8408]

@@CoppertopFPV I see I'm planning on the hobbywing 60a esc. I heard from your previous video (I think) u mentioned it works with ultra.

[@CoppertopFPV]

@@thatfpvdude8408 yeah good escs but you can't run dshot 2400 on them

[@thatfpvdude8408]

@@CoppertopFPV any blheli esc u know runs dshot 2400?

[@CoppertopFPV]

@@thatfpvdude8408 anything with an f3 processor. tekko 32 f3 or t motor f55 pro 2 amongst otters

[@definingslawek4731]

so I don't need a kiss esc? I am planning a kiss ultra build, and I thought I needed a full kiss stack to get the kiss feel. But I didn't know which kiss / fettec esc I could use as the kiss 4 in 1 is only 25amps. So I could just use a blheli and it won't feel / perform less kissey?

[@CoppertopFPV]

No it has full blheli passthrough. I'm running on blheli 32 dshot 2400 and it's great. Haven't tried with the kiss esc as its not cut out for 6s. Sharper than my fettec builds and pretty amazing but different some of which will be the esc. Easy to tune as ever. Basically use any esc you like.

[@ghafoorhussain6677]

the ground just started attacking you at the end.... rude!

[@CoppertopFPV]

man... I hit so many trees I got home and went through the footage and didn't have one clip I could string together where the props weren't knackered! loved every second of it tho 😂 just hooning around