Kitbashing Fallen

[@benbuurman254]

Honestly, I prefer this semi-medieval aesthetic to regular Chaos Space Marines. Absolutely beautiful

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Thank you!

[@Underworlddream]

Agree, I think I remember the old Lore before the Heresy Novel change thing is that is 'Are the Fallen actually traitor or is it the Dark Angel actually the traitor?' They should be scavenger like the 13 space wolf Company's so for them to only use Chaos Equipment would not make sense.

[@Azaghal1988]

@@Underworlddream Was this really lore or just speculation by fans caused by lack of information?

[@Underworlddream]

@@Azaghal1988 Really Really old lore, I gotten into warhammer around 2004 or 5. So their old stuff that in newer addition gotten retcon. I even had the old Vision of Heresy art book that had the old Horus Heresy lore that different from the modern version. Their lore that only show up in the White Dwarf magazines and online GW article so not all of the stuff get recorded. But it could be something impied, I haven't look into the Really really old stuff in a long long time so I would have to dig through alot of the old stuff to find where they said it.

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

@@Underworlddream yeah, to me it always felt like it makes more sense if the Dark Angels almost turned traitor, and killed the ones who were going to report it. If they simply dealt with traitors, why would they go to all this effort to cover it up?

[@Blackthorn0451]

Get the chaplains. The interrogator chaplains.

[@maximumcarnage1381]

This has actually inspired me to make a bunch of these, never been much into the fallen or DA but damn I liked this.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Awesome, good luck with it 😊

[@philippayne8890]

The Fallen are really fun to build if you try making them this way instead of just adding chaos power packs to Veteran Dark Angels like most do! As Pete said that way is acceptable but it's not very inspirational.

[@travisjohnson622]

pictures man. I'd like to see a full squad of these!!

[@ramonecasar3177]

Speaking of boots on a space marine, I've used fantasy chaos warrior legs to make Thunder Warriors for kill team, perhaps a conversion along those lines would be cool to see in the future.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Yeh I would love to finally get around to doing Thunder Warriors!

[@ramonecasar3177]

@@PeteTheWargamer Would you like me to send you a picture of some models as reference or inspiration?

[@PeteTheWargamer]

If my tool use is causing anxiety, then I'm doing a good job 😏

[@AshleyBlackwater]

@@ramonecasar3177 Would you mind uploading an imgur gallery or something and linking it? Would love to see. Thunder Warrior conversions are always really cool to see! :D

[@vojtaxxxxxxx]

I would do this for veterans conversion of my HH force of DA.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Nice idea! They'd work great for that

[@vojtaxxxxxxx]

@@PeteTheWargamer i mean your idea is too good not to use.

[@Joe-mz6ez]

I a HUGE OG dark Angels fan (which is why the fallen are so cool to me) so this makes me very happy! Thanks Peter!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

You're welcome!

[@joshuabirdsall8440]

ASMODIA MAKE EM REPENT

[@pokeadotninja761]

Gotta say to this day still the best fallen I have ever seen. I love the ragged feel of the model and the painting is excellent as well

[@steel5315]

I wanna do a Chaos Marine army for 40k and now I'm considering using Age of Sigmar Chaos and just 40kafying them bc this looks so cool!!

[@tonyfield3618]

Incredible idea, I'm defo gonna give it try. I'm going to have fun modelling the chaos lord on his beastie into a Fallen "daemon prince" riding a xenos lizard

[@PeteTheWargamer]

That would be AWESOME

[@AcoylteKraven82]

9:15- I think the boots works great here! It definitely gives the feeling of not having professionals available to do proper upkeep on armor! I think the only thing I might have changed (only because I don’t really know what they looked like during the split) is maybe the helmet!?! But if this is more accurate then just ignore me lol

[@fildwebble2424]

Probably one of my favourite kitbashes you've done! I love that scavenger aesthetic you've given the model and it makes me want to make a whole chaos warband with that style! Imagining rusted old dreadnoughts with replaced parts and daemonic flesh keeping it barely intact or Rhinos trundling along with a tarp covering it's damaged transport compartment seems like a really fun army project!

[@Bluecho4]

You could go even further yet. How about sticking some random parts from Xenos armies onto the machines? Some parts looted from Eldar, Tau, or Necron war machines, stuck in there with no idea how they work, only that they just about do. Or worse yet, ORK parts. Held together by the beliefs of Orks.

[@goldenrodprime226]

That’s a title for sure. “Fallen”

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Haha, the update hadn't saved so it was just the place holder title for a while. I did like how simple it was though 🤣

[@goldenrodprime226]

@@PeteTheWargamer Minimalism can work

[@cory7328]

I love how this guy came out. It fits in the grim dark universe of 40K with no problem at all.

[@bitzbox]

Good to see the amazing chaos warrior miniatures work so well with Space marine parts

[@PeteTheWargamer]

They are excellent sculpts, I'd love to see them get there own separate, multi part release eventually too

[@brokenheroics8223]

This is a fantastic build and I kinds want to try it now. Thanks for sharing.

[@devonmcdonald7165]

After seeing this video I started a fallen Army now I'm 3000 points deep don't know where to stop

[@travisjohnson622]

you say you're not sure about the boots? The boots make the model! I imagine fallen as being scattered and ever on the run. Like an excaped convict pulling clothes off a clothesline they probably scavenge what ever armors they come across, with their original pieces damaged in battle days past and discarded. So these boots were probably taken from a mercenary who attempted to apprehend the fallen but failed. I imagine those Mark 3s were starting to wear out after 10ks.

[@13Robzilla]

The conversions you do are a whole new level of inspiration, thank you so much for sharing. Please stay safe.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

No problem at all, thank you very much for your kind words 😊

[@thewayfarer8849]

It does have a hardbitten quality to it. I like how you're the one channel just showing what you do. No here's one I did earlier, just skill and an actual tutorial. Good work as always.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Thank you. When making these guides I try to do something that I would have found useful when I first started kitbashing so I like to explain my techniques as much as is reasonable. It might get boring sometimes for regular viewers but I want them to be accessible.

[@philippayne8890]

@@PeteTheWargamer Your videos and guides are never boring. And it's obvious that you research the lore behind the models your planning to convert and then you find the ideal parts and models to kit bash yourself instead of just blindly following the accept methods and guides that fans or GW normally recommend for the conversios

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

It fits with lore too as it says they got spread not just throughout space, but time. Nothing to say they didn't end up in the distant past.

[@luckylarry71]

So splendid! I'm, however, both scared and excited at the prospect of witnessing your attempt at kitbashing some Thunder Warriors :O My expectations are high, not gonna lie.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Haha no pressure then!

[@Tyrnak_Fenrir]

In my mind, this guy fought some Sororitas recently, and had to do what he could with what he salvaged from their unique pattern of power armor.

[@stevemanart]

I'm getting a big "Yes, I am wearing bits and bobs taken from Thunder and Crusade Armor. What of it?" feel from this guy and I love it.

[@trentoskivich4211]

Love it, the Dark Angels are my favourite chapter and I love their lore and history

[@mek31000]

I absolutely love this. The "fallen" models from GW are no longer available which leaves me optimistic that maybe a new model is on the way but I'm not holding my breath on that one. That being said, I totally kitbashed my own with a mixture of mk3 armor bits, some deathwatch and vanguard veteran legs to make them taller, some of the new chaos space marine models, and the forgeworld da helmets. This kitbash is amazing, great work!

[@philippayne8890]

I hope they do update the Fallen / Dark Angels Veteran kit

[@phoenixdblack]

Not gonna lie, this is the best fallen I've ever seen

[@travisjohnson622]

man, I hope this CSM codex has a entire section for Fallen, Giving them hybrid rules that are somewhere between SM/CSM. Let's have another thick Codex and try to top the Eldars.

[@Azcabalt]

Vertus Praetors, some old Custodes, Thunder Warriors, Alpha Legion wearing some sort of civilian clothes in the desert (in Legion) wore boots, so to me the leather boots aren't that odd at all. It's really cool, nice conversion !

[@Bluecho4]

I do love the idea that the Fallen, cut off from any sort of supply lines or tech-priests (either AdMech or Dark Mechanicum), have to scavenge parts and make do with what they have. Sometimes this means not having full suits of power armor, replacing what's missing with plates or leather boots. It reminds me of the Night Lords trilogy that I've been reading lately. The particular Night Lords company depicted in the novels were limping along, pirating and scavenging for scraps. Desperate to keep their armor in working order, their weapons stocked with ammunition, and their ship flight-worthy. Armor pieces especially were coveted, leading to them picking fights with other space marines (loyalist or otherwise), and even pillaging their own dead for parts (in addition to securing their gene-seed). The Fallen, in this scheme, have it even worse than the crew of the _Covenant of Blood._ Not even having consistent access to manufactorums/workshops, tech-priests, or the force of numbers needed to take on other space marines. Their standards must be lowered, as to survive in a galaxy that is hostile to them.

[@imperialfist2304]

Oh you’re gonna be “Fallen” down some stairs in the very near future.

[@sockmonkeyjg]

"fallen" for any iron warrior traps lately

[@imperialfist2304]

@@sockmonkeyjg Haha, has any girl “fallen” for you yet?

[@sockmonkeyjg]

@@imperialfist2304 oooooh getting personal arnt we? Well if it helps I am sure perturabo still appreciates the imperial fist, he sacrificed 300 imperial fist gene seed to ascend to the level of Daemon Prince,

[@imperialfist2304]

@@sockmonkeyjg Maybe I am *mumbling* that’s a grudgin

[@sockmonkeyjg]

@@imperialfist2304 I kid but the imperial fists are one of the best chapters in the 40k, I doubt the loyalists would of won without rogal Dorn leading the defense

[@mrapothic]

I love this idea, my only thought I have to this is to include some of the MK3 legs to give a little more marine vibes just to ensure that it can't be confused entirely, the overall look is great, but that personally would be the only thing I would have done else to ensure the look of the Fallen is more complete.

[@arx1381]

I’m really impressed with this. I may give it a try soon. Loved the ragged cape and hard worn armour.

[@thegreatwave1]

I would love to see you do a small army kitbash (especially a small Fallen army!) for your ideas and tips on kitbashing on a larger scale. Great work, as always!

[@euansmith3699]

"Luther, I've Fallen, and I can't get up!" That's a great mini; but, boy, is that a wobbly razor saw! I've got one with a broader blade and a thick spine to keep it stiff and stable.

[@paladinwiggles7896]

I'm normally not into the marine aesthetic but this... yeah I can get behind this look.

[@nikos52]

Nice one Pete. Take it a little further and chop these leather boots from the knees. Add old chaos space marines greaves and voila! Truescale fallen or csm.

[@graefx]

With the phobos librarian having gloves, adding that aesthetic elsewhere works pretty well.

[@Shooterpirat]

Really cool conversion!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Thanks!

[@Matt-md5yt]

hey Pete glad you tackled this one and used an awesome set for this conversion. they aren't really Chaos but are in the codex of Chaos, more like Renegades. speaking of Renegades glad the Soul Drinkers are back in Primaris form

[@travisjohnson622]

can they take marks of chaos tho? if I played a fallen army, I would keep the chaos stuff super limited. like an army that's "flirting" with the concept of chaos, drawing power from it but not completely possessed. Looking at it,, I kind of see the fallen almost like arrogant sith. "We can control Chaos. Take what we want from it and give it little back as far as our spirits are concerned."

[@TrueWeej]

This is absolutely fantastic. I’ve been building my own fallen army. I used a mix of Mk III chaos space marines and dark angels bits. Love the shoulder pad and power pack idea. Definitely gonna use those.

[@alasiadarthe001actual9]

Probably my favorite conversion of yours

[@gonkdroid1337]

Damn Pete. My entire army is converted from chaos marines! I like to use them as iron hands or death guard so I kept the shields and just roughed them up a little. Very cool conversion you did.

[@matthewbenney70]

What an amazing new take!! Love your work!!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@hansyolo8277]

I'd love to know how you did that black armor, it looks great!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Thank you!

[@deividgarmar]

I think it looks amazing! I might try it some day. The only thing I might have done different would be painting some of the armour parts in different colours, to reflect the different origins of some of the pieces

[@martynjones3978]

Thats really well thought out process you did for this fallen Marine. As always excellent kit bash!! 😊

[@thespookymage6294]

Really interesting take on the fallen! He turned out really pretty cool!

[@rafasumo2856]

surely do a conversion of the soul drinkers chapter master Sarpedon, with his spider legs and all!

[@ducky7594]

Yes, Interrogator Chaplain, this video right here.

[@FLSheepdog]

Can't wait to see the paint guide. Long live the Lion.

[@tristanellis-mascoll1171]

Its a nice start to a Fallen army. Also it fits to the appearance of Cypher. Maybe after my other projects are finished I get Cypher and some Fallen for fun.

[@einar_476]

The boots and old school pack/helmet gives it strong Thunder Warrior vibes.

[@giantlobsterboy644]

You have a very nice kitbash here. Good work. I recently did a Kill Team Fallen squad. My guys also have piece mail armor with a variety of mk 3 and mk 4 pieces. They also have other traitor legion armor pieces . I like the idea of the fallen being pragmatic. The team has marines from other fallen legions and even a turn coat dark angel (his armor is mostly new and clean). Based on the art work i discovered, they are equipped with swords.

[@scenczyk1429]

Looks great and love the paint style

[@MentalMyles]

really love that half shoulder pad look

[@deividgarmar]

I think it would be awesome u did a fallen custom army 4 the new Horus heresy game!

[@gsggodwin]

well done, this is such a great kitbash. i love ur little hand saw to, great tool to add to the modeling wargear

[@mcerverof]

LOVE the DA asthethic! Would love to fight them I'm the table with my Angels! I wanted to show you a couple of good primaris conversions if possible and would love to get your feedback on how to paint them! Made a really cool Primaris Azrael and couple other cool generals. Thanks for all your hard work!

[@adriant1654]

That was scary .... 7:15 !! I noticed most of the time you use your thumbs as a kind of stop so that the cut cannot go further than intended. That's a good technique.

[@AlmostCoolTho]

Wow you did an amazing job!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Thanks!

[@jack1701e]

I fancy making one of these in this style, I really like how it looks!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Go for it!

[@philippayne8890]

He's perfect! I've not yet got the new chaos warrior set yet but I can see they make an awesome Fallen Dark Angel. So I'll be buying some soon. Keep up the good work.

[@garrisonkunst3645]

I didn't think this would work out, I'm glad it came together so well!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Not gonna lie, I was a bit worried at first too

[@AshleyBlackwater]

Really interesting take on the Fallen :D

[@confusedperson9723]

I'm planning to work on an army for The Order of Caliban, so this is a nice video to see. I may not be working on fallen, but it's a similar enough theme.

[@treymartinez7398]

My guy love this idea before I decide to purchase this box have you done it to the entirety of the models provided or is it just one or two that can be done

[@1987nightrap]

Kinda looks like a sister of battle with it's stature, all in all looks really good, it'll definitely stand out on the board

[@h.walker1332]

Bought all these parts straight away.

[@Archon3960]

Welp, now that redemption has recently arrived, your Fallen might be relevant very soon. 😂

[@whowantsabighug]

Your wobbly-bladed saw makes me unreasonably angry.

[@diepixeldie8725]

Same tho I feel like it’s going to break everytime he uses it

[@AshleyBlackwater]

@@diepixeldie8725 if anything its the bendyness that keeps it from just snapping at the slightest hint of bend. Strength vs hardness ;w;

[@xxTONIGHTYOUxx]

oh i like that! great job, looking forward to the painting of this one!

[@wimhertogen5979]

Every time you use that saw I expect blood to flow. Nice model :)

[@ashhillebrand3189]

Absolutely love this conversion

[@Matheis81]

That looks sweet, top notch conversion.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Thank you!

[@space9658]

I'm going to more or less follow this but to make Assault Intercessors for my custom Dark Angels instead. I try to go for a more medieval aesthetic whenever I can to get the Knights in Space vibe

[@codyray909]

I think some more Chaos warbands could use some attention, hopefully you’ll be able to find the inspiration for them too.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Yeh it would be good to so some non legion chaos conversions

[@douglasfree1664]

Suggestion: reposing/kitbashing the new obliterators so we can field more then just two poses! This is a problem i am currently trying to tackle myself and id love some inspiration!

[@augustholst5594]

Finally! I have waited all day!

[@klaudiuszturewicz9680]

Thank you sooo much dude this will help out a ton in my up coming army

[@НикитаКитиченко]

Excellent work. There would be more such conversions and miniatures in the style of a little from 30K a little from 40K a little fantasy battle and age sigmar because when you combine different models from different sets, you get amazing individual miniatures. Thanks for the work and video.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

It's super useful!

[@reidnutter1476]

I think I've "Fallen" in love!

[@Skinofgod]

Lovely conversion work but it is that paint job I am in love with.

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Thank you!

[@jamiecalderwood259]

id love to see your take on an up to date warpsmith for the iron warriors.

[@AsterixCodix]

Anyone else get this and the Primaris Azrael conversion in their recommended feed immediately after watching the Primaris Azrael reveal?

[@Wolfogre]

This will serve as good inspiration for my Relictors-force. :)

[@afireinsidebrad]

Oh id love to see you kit bash Astellan now!

[@ookamiwarrior]

Amazing kitbash, I feel very inspired by this!

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

Didn't like the leather boots, but all the other small details you added to the model are just incredible. Great job!

[@philippayne8890]

I've seen blood bound chaos warriors converted into world eaters and they swapped the leather boots for mark iii boots. Looks awesome but you use more sets of legs in the process

[@chrishomenuk15]

This is an amazing fallen Pete!! And so what if he has boots on ..been on the run so long his original shoes fell apart probably lol

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Maybe he's a little tainted by Slaanesh and just loves how they look 😂

[@az09Aintertest]

I really like your work I think about starting to paint, but you make me want to do kitbashing from the get go

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Give it a go! Learning the basics of kitbashing is probably less of a learning curve than painting is.

[@Mrnub-bg9lt]

Would we ever see more eldar aspect conversions? Im hoping for warp spiders!

[@PeteTheWargamer]

Yep, they're in the planning phase 😁

[@rogerhack3750]

~ ring ring ~ Yes this is Pete. . . Good day, this is Asmodai..... I'd like to have a word with you.....

[@PeteTheWargamer]

I did Azrael, Ravenwing and Deathwing conversions. Surely they're worth something in my favour!!

[@tylerlamble334]

Is it possible to get a tutorial for painting this guy? Even just a written guide would be perfect. The mini looks amazing and Id love to try and replicate the paint job.

[@is-bp1hn]

loved this, really good work

[@shanemorgan1627]

The leather boots I feel are fine as footware, even armored, are going to wear out. Leather would be a fine replacement if from a particularly hardy alien.

[@loremasterhendrix]

Now that the lion has returned im going to do this with his retinue as fallen

[@noxington4260]

Will you do a video on your recent kill team conversations you've been doing? I was thinking of doing something similar and would love to see your process!

[@willofbob]

I like the idea of using Chaos Warriors as Fallen, but I'd definitely preference torsos without capes or use an alternate for the back of the torso. The cape really interferes with the power pack, and the solution of just glueing the pack on top the cape doesn't really work for me.

[@ianchoi4646]

this is good inspiration to watch for conversions even though i dont play fallen

[@PeteTheWargamer]

I try to include as many generic techniques in these videos so even if you're not planning on building the model you can still get something out of it 😊

[@500a6500]

True Heroes of the Imperium.

[@patsagonsaechin3006]

Look awesome!